Kyle Vanden Bosch

[Clockwork Orange]

He'll be a UFA on March 3rd. He's coming off of a breakout season in which he recorded 12.5 sacks and netted another 2 in the Pro Bowl tonight. He's 6'4, 278 and hasn't missed a game in 3 years. Sounds like just what the doctor ordered for the Broncos D-line. Should he be the Broncos target in free agency?

[Clockwork Orange]

http://www.nashvillecitypaper.com/slideshows/2005titans/091805titans/img/4.jpg

Kick Pryce and his huge cap number to the curb and get Vanden Bosch in here. Christ, the guy had 66 tackles and 4 forced fumbles to go with those 12.5 sacks.

[DBroncos4life]

we should have signed him last year. :thumbs:

[Clockwork Orange]

we should have signed him last year. :thumbs:

We can make up for that now. He's officially atop my want list.

And I figured our resident Nebraska homers would like this. ;D

[SportinOne]

yeah.. it would be nice if we could pick him up.


I'd love to have TO, but i think a proven pass rushing DE would improve this team more than any WR could.

In fact it could be that missing piece... i mean when did we have any consistent pressure when we weren't all out blitzing?

[DBroncos4life]

We can make up for that now. He's officially atop my want list.

And I figured our resident Nebraska homers would like this. ;D
I wanted him last year but it didn't happen. He has a great motor when he is heathly.

[Clockwork Orange]

He has a great motor when he is heathly.

Well, that gives him a leg up on Pryce right there.

Sign him, re-sign Gerard Warren, draft Mathias Kiwanuka and we'll be set on the D-line for the forseeable future.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

I don't understand the hype on this guy.

He had a career year.

4 sacks in his other 35 career games.

I guess it's possible the light went on or something, since he's fairly young.

[DBroncos4life]

I don't understand the hype on this guy.

He had a career year.

4 sacks in his other 35 career games.

I guess it's possible the light went on or something, since he's fairly young.
or he got over the two knee injuries to play like he should have before he got hurt.

[NFLBRONCO]

Well, that gives him a leg up on Pryce right there.

Sign him, re-sign Gerard Warren, draft Mathias Kiwanuka and we'll be set on the D-line for the forseeable future.

Like your ideas I hope we can land Warren before FA if he hits market he will be tougher to resign him.

[Natedog24]

Should he be the Broncos target in free agency?

Yes!!!

I'd rather have a new DE then TO....

[watermock]

I don't understand the hype on this guy.

He had a career year.

4 sacks in his other 35 career games.

I guess it's possible the light went on or something, since he's fairly young.


We can't draft in the top 5 every year Bob.

We are drafting at 22 and 30. BTW, where are you drafting?

[Crushaholic]

The little I watched of the Pro Bowl convinced me that Vanden Bosch is the guy we should covet. He would most likely come at a higher dollar-for-dollar value than any of the other guys we've discussed on this board because he would most likely be grateful to get on a playoff contending team...

[Kaylore]

He really impressed me. The pro bowl was the first game that I actually got to see him play in a game and I'm convinced. Unfortunately a lot of other teams with deeper pockets will be as well.

[Clockwork Orange]

He really impressed me. The pro bowl was the first game that I actually got to see him play in a game and I'm convinced. Unfortunately a lot of other teams with deeper pockets will be as well.

According to Sundquist, we're in better cap shape than we've been in for several years. If we've got enough money to take a hard look at Terrell Owens, we've got the money to take a run at a legit pass rusher.

[NFLBRONCO]

According to Sundquist, we're in better cap shape than we've been in for several years. If we've got enough money to take a hard look at Terrell Owens, we've got the money to take a run at a legit pass rusher.

Can we sign Warren as well?

[Clockwork Orange]

Can we sign Warren as well?

No idea. But the Broncos reportedly approached Warren about negotiating a new deal a couple of months ago, so I imagine he's in their plans.

[NFLBRONCO]

No idea. But the Broncos reportedly approached Warren about negotiating a new deal a couple of months ago, so I imagine he's in their plans.

I'd rather get a legit DE then resign Warren if I had to choose I hope we can do both we will see what happens.

[Clockwork Orange]

I'd rather get a legit DE then resign Warren if I had to choose I hope we can do both we will see what happens.

Vanden Bosch and John Abraham are the cream of the crop as far as free agent pass rushers go. Neither will come cheap.

[Dudeskey]

won't happen, 5 years $25 mil at the very least if they're lucky. The contract would have to be seriousy backloaded too...™

[Jason in LA]

On one of those sacks he beat Olando Pace. I didn't catch who he beat on the other one.

[Kaylore]

On one of those sacks he beat Olando Pace. I didn't catch who he beat on the other one.
It doesn't matter. Everyone of those guys there is in the top five at their respective position.

[eddie mac]

won't happen, 5 years $25 mil at the very least if they're lucky. The contract would have to be seriousy backloaded too...™

Totally correct. If we couldn't afford Hayward last year and Berry the previous one how the hell are we gonna afford KVB this season, you've a choice folks, Warren or KVB there's no way this team can afford both.

Plus according to sources in Tennessee land he's a hair's breath from an extension.

[eddie mac]

I'd rather get a legit DE then resign Warren if I had to choose I hope we can do both we will see what happens.

You let Warren go then you can add about 40-50yds a game against our run D. Just remember which backs we face twice a year, LT and LJ.

[Tibs]

Vanden Bosch could very well sign with the Steelers. There's a starting spot there at RE for the taking, and many more SB championships on the horizon. For sure he'd take less money to play on a stellar D like the Steelers. One would think.

[fontaine]

You let Warren go then you can add about 40-50yds a game against our run D. Just remember which backs we face twice a year, LT and LJ.


Exactly. Warren and Myers were solid against the run and Gerrard provided some initial pass rush from the inside.

It's going to be interesting how they go about targetting DE. Brown makes Pryce redundant because he's younger and provides a good base as a power end solid against the run, and Pryce really didn't suit as well on the other side.

Unless Pryce drastically takes a pay cut I don't see him hanging around.

I think Ekuban could start on the other side and we could draft a young pass rusher to come in on passing downs. That's probably the cheapest way to go IMO since guys like Bosch and Abraham will command too much $$$.

[Drek]

Vanden Bosch could very well sign with the Steelers. There's a starting spot there at RE for the taking, and many more SB championships on the horizon. For sure he'd take less money to play on a stellar D like the Steelers. One would think.
He's about 270, he's had to work to get up to that weight, and he's a pass rusher. Neither 3-4 end or OLB would agree with his skills. He needs to go to a 4-3 team.

Trev Pryce, once cut, would make an ideal 3-4 DE, big, strong, and mobile enough to help on outside runs. His tactic of just collecting blockers and never actually getting a sack would work much better in that type of defensive system.

[Old Dude]

There's talk in Tennessee of franchising him. I doubt the Titans will let him go without a serious fight.

I'd love to see him here, though.

[OrangeShadow]

the fact that what he did what he did in the pro bowl against some of the best OL men impressed me

[BroncoInferno]

Depends on the dollars. Until this season he really had not done a whole lot and had some injury problems. I'm leary of giving a guy a huge contract with only one big good season under his belt and the concerns I mentioned. I go as high as $7 millon on the signing bonus but no more. That might not get it done. Teams are so desperate for pass rushers he is likely to get at least Heyward money.

[broncohaven]

5/$25M could easily be accomplished with Pryce off the books. I would love to see Vanden Bosch in Denver. I've been dying for a high motor guy on the DL for years. I'm tired of watching Pryce give it everything he has every fourth game, and would happily give a good portion of his salary to a guy like KVB who brings it every down.

Then if we could get Tamba Hali we'd have two never quit DEs.

[BroncoInferno]

I'd rather get a legit DE then resign Warren if I had to choose I hope we can do both we will see what happens.

No, we need both. If we let Warren go to sign a pass rusher, we will just be swapping one problem for another.

[eddie mac]

5/$25M could easily be accomplished with Pryce off the books.

Tell me you're kidding right? The Broncos are currently approx $20 million over the cap and if the CBA isn't agreed prior to FA that'll hinder us even more.

Cutting Pryce would save approx $8 million or thereabouts but Denver will have to get rid of him before 3 March, there's very little chance of them getting under the cap without ditching/trading(long-shot) Pryce.

To even consider offering that kind of money to a DE, we'll have to approach everyone with a cap hit over $1 million to consider restructring.

A 1st rd pick DE will only get 1/3 of what a top FA will get at that position and quite frankly that's all we'll be able to afford come March.

[fontaine]

A 1st rd pick DE will only get 1/3 of what a top FA will get at that position and quite frankly that's all we'll be able to afford come March.

I completely agree. It would be good to have a guy like Abraham or Bosch but plenty of teams with cap space will be throwing money that way. The best and cheapest way is still to do it through the draft and with multiple first day picks I think we should target a DE in the first round.

After that it's up to Brown/Ekuban and DJ to pick up their game.

[OrangeShadow]

Tell me you're kidding right? The Broncos are currently approx $20 million over the cap and if the CBA isn't agreed prior to FA that'll hinder us even more.


The CBA will be agreed to. any cap estimates you see right now are worthless

[broncohaven]

Saying we're that far over the cap is pure conjecture. We're reported to be over the cap by millions every year, and yet we always have the money to pursue our target FAs. This year will be no different, and with Sundquist saying we're in better cap shape than we've been in years, this year will likely better. No offense, but I'll put more weight on Sundquist's projections than yours.

5/$25 would likely put his cap hit under $3M this year, which saves us $7M in comparison to Pryce. Trevor's full number is over $10M. Saving $7M to upgrade a vital position seems like a good idea to me. We'll be able to trim the required fat elsewhere.

The cheapest way is to go with a rookie, but I would debate that it's the best.

[BroncoInferno]

Tell me you're kidding right? The Broncos are currently approx $20 million over the cap and if the CBA isn't agreed prior to FA that'll hinder us even more.

A lot of that projection includes option money that won't be paid. For instance, Warren's option of about $6.5 million is included in the projection, but he won't get that. I think Courtney Brown also has a large option counted in the projection he won't receive, as does Matt Lepsis. Sundquist is already on record saying our cap situation is the best it's been in years. We will have some money to play around with, even after resigning our own guys.

[Hercules Rockefeller]

A lot of that projection includes option money that won't be paid.

He knows the cap situation better than 99.9% of the people on this site.

[eddie mac]

Saying we're that far over the cap is pure conjecture. We're reported to be over the cap by millions every year, and yet we always have the money to pursue our target FAs. This year will be no different, and with Sundquist saying we're in better cap shape than we've been in years, this year will likely better. No offense, but I'll put more weight on Sundquist's projections than yours.

5/$25 would likely put his cap hit under $3M this year, which saves us $7M in comparison to Pryce. Trevor's full number is over $10M. Saving $7M to upgrade a vital position seems like a good idea to me. We'll be able to trim the required fat elsewhere.

The cheapest way is to go with a rookie, but I would debate that it's the best.

I'd love to see that quote from Sundqvist got a link?

I remember him saying something similar last year but did we not lose players like Hayward, Kennedy and Herndon all of whom Mike Shanahan wanted to stick around. We wanted to retain Hamilton and we did, the only other FA of note we signed was Ian Gold and his contract was heavily backloaded. Any players we traded for were all signed to incentive laden deals or base salaried deals such as Myers, both Warren and Sauerbrun re-worked their deals to save Denver cap room. We also traded our 1st rd pick last year, thus lowering the rookie pool money.

In an ideal world KVB would be a great acquisition but if we're competing against other teams for his signature we've no chance. The only way we land a name this offseason is via a trade or a player who other teams may shy away from and thus Denver can negotiate more in their own favour.

Denver's priority this offseason has been re-sign our own from day 1. Shanahan had 6 players in mind when he made that statement. So it's 2 down (Nalen/Brandon) and 4 to go (Lepsis, Warren, Dayne, Burns)

[eddie mac]

A lot of that projection includes option money that won't be paid. For instance, Warren's option of about $6.5 million is included in the projection, but he won't get that. I think Courtney Brown also has a large option counted in the projection he won't receive, as does Matt Lepsis. Sundquist is already on record saying our cap situation is the best it's been in years. We will have some money to play around with, even after resigning our own guys.

Brown's cap hit is only $3.7m for 2006.
Warren's deal does void but the best you save in 2006 is $3m-$4m if you want him back!

[Hercules Rockefeller]

I'd love to see that quote from Sundqvist got a link?


http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showthread.php?p=805794&highlight=sundquist+cap#post805794

Rocky article before the Skins game

[BroncoInferno]

Brown's cap hit is only $3.7m for 2006.
Warren's deal does void but the best you save in 2006 is $3m-$4m if you want him back!

There are several other players with options who won't get the money, plus you have to factor in that several players are likely to restructure their deals or be released (i.e. Trevor Pryce, Mike Anderson). There was a recent Post article stating that we would have the money to resign most of our FAs plus have a little left to dabble with.

[broncofan]

From what I understand, negotiations between KVB and the Titans are progressing rather well. Unless there is some unforseeable turn of events there, I don't see him playing anywhere else except Tennessee next year and beyond. It's a good thought...but he'll be locked up by March 3.

[eddie mac]

There are several other players with options who won't get the money, plus you have to factor in that several players are likely to restructure their deals or be released (i.e. Trevor Pryce, Mike Anderson). There was a recent Post article stating that we would have the money to resign most of our FAs plus have a little left to dabble with.

That's what I've been saying all along. Any of the top 2 DE's available are gonna cost a lot more than a "Little left to dabble with".

[BroncoInferno]

That's what I've been saying all along. Any of the top 2 DE's available are gonna cost a lot more than a "Little left to dabble with".

The indication was that there'd be more than in previous years. Since we are always able to add players even when tight against the cap, I think that bodes well for this offseason.

[Rock Chalk]

That's what I've been saying all along. Any of the top 2 DE's available are gonna cost a lot more than a "Little left to dabble with".
We were in worse shape last year and was in a FA frenzy. If KVB is there, we can afford him. Odds are good though he is a Titan next year.

[eddie mac]

We were in worse shape last year and was in a FA frenzy. If KVB is there, we can afford him. Odds are good though he is a Titan next year.

There were better players available last year as well Alec. This FA class is one of the weakest in years apart from RB. Problem is the guys who are available will still be expecting the same coin or slightly more than the top players got in 2005!

[eddie mac]

Folks I hope Shanahan has a pot of gold to fulfill all your free agency and trade dreams but until someone officially tells me different I still think bar resigning our own players we will not be adding any further stars unless they're the baggage carrying kind with incentive layden deals!

[Rock Chalk]

Folks I hope Shanahan has a pot of gold to fulfill all your free agency and trade dreams but until someone officially tells me different I still think bar resigning our own players we will not be adding any further stars unless they're the baggage carrying kind with incentive layden deals!
Your cap knowledge is minimal at best.

[fontaine]

Your cap knowledge is minimal at best.

I'd believe him sooner than the likes of burger bill.

[BroncoInferno]

Folks I hope Shanahan has a pot of gold to fulfill all your free agency and trade dreams but until someone officially tells me different I still think bar resigning our own players we will not be adding any further stars unless they're the baggage carrying kind with incentive layden deals!

Paging Ckicken Little...Paging Chiken Little...We've found your idenity...paging Chicken Little...

[eddie mac]

Your cap knowledge is minimal at best.

Wow Alec as usual you back your opinion with no facts whatsoever!!

[eddie mac]

Paging Ckicken Little...Paging Chiken Little...We've found your idenity...paging Chicken Little...

You've totally lost me with that!!

[Mediator12]

The broncos have had 4-6 million minimum of the cap invested in dead money being paid out the last three years. That right there is one excellent FA that could be signed under next years cap with a creative contract that the broncos are always able to pull off. This is not the SF or TEN mess that the broncos are in. They are continually up against the cap and make it work.

The 20 million over figure is a complete farce already since two deals have already been redone and there is over 15 million in bonuses and base salaries alloted to Pryce, Warren, And Brown under the rules of the cap. These will be changed before March 3 in order to fall under the cap in the short term and they will play with it duringthe offseason until it fits even better.

One thing the Broncos do better than any other team has been able to do since Shanahan has been here is to make the Salary Cap work for the team and not against them. Bowlen has consistently paid out the money to get the players needed each year and the Management has been able to pull off moves most GM's would not even consider. They do a great Job of thinking short, middle, and long term. Have they been perfect? No way! But they have consistently put a good if not great team on the field that has produced one losing season in 11 years when they lost a Hall of fame QB, an All-pro RB, and some key other players with starting a first year QB.

Again, there a lot of reasons to trust this management and number one is their ability to be creative in the offseason and take risks to obtain what they need to get better while managing the cap.

[Hercules Rockefeller]

The broncos have had 4-6 million minimum of the cap invested in dead money being paid out the last three years.

Try $13 million in 2003, $16.4 million in 2004 and $11.8 million in 2005

[fontaine]

Try $13 million in 2003, $16.4 million in 2004 and $11.8 million in 2005

I thought they cleared all dead money last year?

How much of this dead money is on the books for the 2006 season whenever it is capped?

Damn Griese.
Damn IHOP.

[Hercules Rockefeller]

About $1M in dead money at this point

[azbroncfan]

I wasn't sold on the guy until yesterday. He was in the backfield all day long.

[fontaine]

About $1M in dead money at this point

Good.

That explains the TO fascination.

[Mediator12]

Try $13 million in 2003, $16.4 million in 2004 and $11.8 million in 2005

Thanks Herc! I was definitely trying to lowball that figure to make a point of the minimum and had NOT realized it was almost a 12 MIL minimum over the last three years. Ahh, the price of imperfection can be 12 MIL a year ROFL!

How the Hell did they ever put a 13-3 team and two prior 10-6 teams on the field missing at least two Great players in dead money??? What is that Website for firing Mike?

[Hercules Rockefeller]

I never realized it was that high this past season. Besides IHOP (who should have been about 1/3 of it), I don't remember who else Denver cut June 1, 2004.

[eddie mac]

I never realized it was that high this past season. Besides IHOP (who should have been about 1/3 of it), I don't remember who else Denver cut June 1, 2004.

Did anyone retire with signing bonuses still outstanding?

[sirhcyennek81]

Vanden Bosch has a great motor. Thought when he came free this last offseason Denver would try and go get him. Would not hurt to bring him in with the rotation we have, I do think he is going to resign with tennessee tho.

:Broncos:

[BroncoInferno]

Did anyone retire with signing bonuses still outstanding?

Eddie Mac retired before th '04 season, so his prorated bonus may have been a part of that.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

We can't draft in the top 5 every year Bob.

We are drafting at 22 and 30. BTW, where are you drafting?

19th I believe.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

Brown's cap hit is only $3.7m for 2006.
Warren's deal does void but the best you save in 2006 is $3m-$4m if you want him back!

Only?

3.7 million is alot to pay for 2 sacks.

[Mile High Shack]

Only?

3.7 million is alot to pay for 2 sacks.

get the hell out of here pussy

cheering for Rod's injury

get the HELL out of here

[eddie mac]

2 players that signed for the Titans (VDB) and Seahawks (Jurevicius) last offseason for peanuts were probably the most valued FA's signed last year, both will command a high price this offseason.

[eddie mac]

Only?

3.7 million is alot to pay for 2 sacks.

Look at the other side of the line FFS. Pryce $10.3m for 4 sacks.

Brown will restructure that deal plus he already told Larry Johnson he wants to stay in Denver and that his family are settled there!

BTW Bob not very nice cheering when Rod got hurt. Shame on you!

[Hercules Rockefeller]

Eddie Mac retired before th '04 season, so his prorated bonus may have been a part of that.

Eddie Mac would have been another

[sirhcyennek81]

2 players that signed for the Titans (VDB) and Seahawks (Jurevicius) last offseason for peanuts were probably the most valued FA's signed last year, both will command a high price this offseason.

Vanden Bosch would probably command more money then Jurevicius would. Seattle would more then likely resign Alexander, and may not be able to afford to add JJ. Could probably add JJ and VandenBosch for what it would cost to bring in just TO.

:Broncos:

[Hercules Rockefeller]

19th I believe.

20th, SD picks 19th.

But I believe you said over at CP that it doesn't matter that the Broncos have 2 1sts since both are after the Chiefs pick.

[eddie mac]

Vanden Bosch would probably command more money then Jurevicius would. Seattle would more then likely resign Alexander, and may not be able to afford to add JJ. Could probably add JJ and VandenBosch for what it would cost to bring in just TO.

:Broncos:

Seemingly he's very high on Buffalo's list of FA targets if they get rid of Moulds!

[eddie mac]

Vanden Bosch would probably command more money then Jurevicius would. Seattle would more then likely resign Alexander, and may not be able to afford to add JJ. Could probably add JJ and VandenBosch for what it would cost to bring in just TO.

:Broncos:

If TO doesn't come cheap it wont happen.

[sirhcyennek81]

Maybe. I dont feel we need to add every WR under the sun. Apparently, I am alone in that estimation tho. Going to be a fun few weeks to see how things shake out.

:Broncos:

[Bob's your Information Minister]

Look at the other side of the line FFS. Pryce $10.3m for 4 sacks.
!

That doesn't make either salary right. They are both outrageous.

[eddie mac]

Maybe. I dont feel we need to add every WR under the sun. Apparently, I am alone in that estimation tho. Going to be a fun few weeks to see how things shake out.

:Broncos:

We only need 1 WR, be it TO or another FA, doubt very much whether any of this year's draft class could contribute right away.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

20th, SD picks 19th.

But I believe you said over at CP that it doesn't matter that the Broncos have 2 1sts since both are after the Chiefs pick.

I said nothing of the sort, but I am glad that it works out that way for us. You guys may trade up though.

[sirhcyennek81]

We only need 1 WR, be it TO or another FA, doubt very much whether any of this year's draft class could contribute right away.


We did get to the AFC championship game without TO. I think the WR we need is already on the roster. BUT when an all pro comes free, and has the potential to be a cheap sign, you do it. Just so happens that allpro wears a body legth leotard...:thumbsup:

:Broncos:

[DBroncos4life]

I don't get some of you guys. You cry about not having a good DE then you cry about the thought of having to PAY a good DE money. It won't work like that. I still think he will sign a deal with Tenn, get paid and still not be as high as a few of you here think he is going to command. Wistrom was coming off a year pretty close to Bosch in 04 (same number of tackles 4 less sacks) and got a 6 year 33 mill deal (14 mill of that is bonus money) While he got paid pretty good remember he had more then one healthy year that he produced in. I see Bosch getting less then that but still he will get some coin. Anyways you will always have to pay for guys that produce.

[Billy Clyde Puckett]

. I think the WR we need is already on the roster. leotard...:thumbsup:

:Broncos:


Who? Broncs have Rod who is a warrior but getting to the end, Lelie who is fine and no one who has proved anything behind them. I am 100% against bringing in TO, but the Broncs must do something to upgrade their pass receivers. Will be tough with the lack of FA and stated weakness of the draft at WR.

[Clockwork Orange]

I said nothing of the sort, but I am glad that it works out that way for us. You guys may trade up though.

You do know that 2 is better than 1, right? Are you honestly trying to say that you'd rather have the 20th pick than the 22nd and 29th picks? Wow.

[ludo21]

KVB definitely was impressive, and yesterday, and all last seasn for that matter i thought he would be a good fit here, BUT:

We ousted the likes of Berry and Hayward becasue we didnt want to pay them, why will KVB be different.

As i said before, lets beef up through the draft!

[Crushaholic]

I hope Devoe is ready to step up and be a big-time WR...

[Bob's your Information Minister]

You do know that 2 is better than 1, right? Are you honestly trying to say that you'd rather have the 20th pick than the 22nd and 29th picks? Wow.

No. I'm just saying I'm glad we pick before you. We're both likely looking at defensive line.

[ludo21]

I hope Devoe is ready to step up and be a big-time WR...


??? this is a defense thread buddy ;D

[Crushaholic]

Ludo, this statement brought up my thought about Devoe...



I think the WR we need is already on the roster.

[DBroncos4life]

Ludo, this statement brought up my thought about Devoe...
If its all the same to you I don't want to place my hopes and dreams of the team on Devoe. Feel good storys are nice but Rod Smith's don't happen every day.

[ludo21]

Ludo, this statement brought up my thought about Devoe...


Ooooohh, k.

I forgot that our threads go offcourse ;D :thumbs:

[fontaine]

Eddie Mac would have been another

Also that veteran TE from San Francisco we picked in FA and I think his contract carried over into the '04 season even though we cut him after camp because Jep stepped up. I can't remember his name but he signed on with the Pats and ended up getting a SuperBowl ring.

[eddie mac]

Also that veteran TE from San Francisco we picked in FA and I think his contract carried over into the '04 season even though we cut him after camp because Jep stepped up. I can't remember his name but he signed on with the Pats and ended up getting a SuperBowl ring.

It was Jed Weaver. I remember us having Jeb and Jed at training camp. Broncos had to eat the 500k signing bonus they gave him.

[broncohaven]

KVB definitely was impressive, and yesterday, and all last seasn for that matter i thought he would be a good fit here, BUT:

We ousted the likes of Berry and Hayward becasue we didnt want to pay them, why will KVB be different.

As i said before, lets beef up through the draft!
Berry and Heyward weren't let go because of their price tag alone, but because they were overvalued. They're two examples of why we never get into real cap trouble. Heyward was touted as the #1 DE FA, even though he really didn't produce that much while he was here. He got half his sack production in one game, and three of them were coverage sacks. Yet his numbers looked good even though he never once took over a game. Overvalued.

Berry turned out to be a better value, but at the time that wasn't obvious by any means. It's never about price, always about value.

You can't complain about the lack of pressure from the DL and at the same time be unwilling to pursue, and pay, FAs that will change that.