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Old Dude

04-18-2006, 02:50 PM

I'm going to use this pick to fill my coaching spot.

http://www.jimwegryn.com/Names/Paul%20Brown.jpg

Paul Brown was perhaps the single most innovative and influential coach in the history of pro football.

“You can learn a line from a win and a book from a defeat.”

Brown's lexicon must have been full of one-liners.

His coaching career began in 1930 at the Naval Academy’s school in Severna Park, Maryland. He went 16-1-1 in two seasons at Severn, then went back to his home town where he spent the next nine years posting an 80-8-2 record as coach of the Washington High Tigers.

Eleven years: 96-9-3. Not bad.

Brown was so popular at Washington High, that they built a new stadium that seated 20,000 people, and drew crowds that were only surpassed by those at Ohio State University.

In 1941, Brown became the head coach at Ohio State. It didn’t take him long to succeed. In 1942, he coached the Buckeyes to a national championship.

Brown entered the Navy in 1944, and was assigned to coach a squad at the Great Lakes Naval Station. He took them to a 15-5-2 record over a two-year period.

When his term was over, he returned to Ohio, where he was already outrageously popular, and in 1946, he was approached to head up a new team in an upstart league: the AAFL. There was an opening in Cleveland because the Cleveland Rams (NFL Champions in 1945) had bolted for Los Angeles.

A fan poll conducted by The Cleveland Plain Dealer named this team the Cleveland “Browns.”

(While the nickname “Browns” had been used in other sports, it was clearly chosen in this case to reflect the fans’ admiration of Mr. Brown, himself.)

Right from the start, Brown hired a full-time staff, including specialized assistant coaches, on a year-round basis and he instituted a system for scouting college talent on a scale never before imagined by other pro teams. He was the first to extensively use intelligence tests, modern playbooks, classroom sessions, and game film studies. The latter was particularly important, because it allowed Brown to evaluate and grade each and every player on every play in the game. Before long, he was building up a library on the opposition, and in some cases, knew opposing teams better than they knew themselves.

Paul Brown was also the man who broke Pro Football’s “Gentleman’s Agreement” not to sign or play African Americans. In 1946, he signed both Marion Motely and Bill Willis, and both became stars. This was a full year before Jackie Robinson would break the color barrier in MLB. For this alone, Brown belongs in the Hall of Fame.

As a game-day coach, Brown was one of the first coaches to send in plays on a constant basis. He experimented with radio sets, but settled eventually on a rotating guard system.

Brown was also a master of strategy and play design, and found many ways to adjust formations to take advantages of rules and personnel and trends on a continual basis – on both offense and defense. And he was also looking for ways to improve. At a later date he would lay the foundations for what was to become known as the "West Coast Offense." Many historians feel it should have been called The "Ohio River" offense.

The Paul Brown “coaching tree” produced many of the most successful NFL coaches in history, including Chuck Noll and Bill Walsh.

But back to 1946-49. The Browns so thoroughly dominated the AAFC that they may have destroyed it. They won all four championships and lost only 4 games in 4 years.

When the Browns, the 49ers and the Colts were absorbed into the NFL for the 1950 season, the schedule-makers put Cleveland against the defending NFL champion Eagles on opening day. In some ways, this was the first true "Super Bowl" with the two great teams of the day meeting to decide it all.

It's a fascinating story:

http://washtimes.com/sports/20040119-121417-9467r.htm

Brown built a pro football dynasty in Cleveland, posting a 167-53-8 record, winning four AAFC titles, and three NFL championships. He had only one losing season in his 17 year-reign.

In 1961, At Modell purchased a majority interest in the Browns. Modell, who was not from the area, was, by most accounts, still learning the ropes and not overly involved in day to day operations. Players and third parties later reported that Brown and Modell, for whatever reason, never really hit it off.

When the 1962 draft came, Brown, without consulting Modell, struck a major trade.

The Washington Redskins had used the first pick in the draft to obtain Ernie Davis. Davis was a close friend of Jim Brown. Jim Brown had personally recruited Davis to take his place at Syracuse. In many ways, Ernie Davis was a clone of Jim Brown, and he broke most of Brown's college records. (Shortly after, Davis would personally recruit Floyd Little to carry on the Syracuse tradition.) Ernie Davis was the first African American to win the Heisman Trophy, and he was widely regarded as an important civil rights figure due to a stand that he and his teammates made at the Cotton Bowl. (Davis won the MVP, and was invited to pick up the trophy at a dinner, but was told that he would have to leave immediately afterwards, because he was black. - - Davis and his whole team boycotted the affair.

JFK hosting Davis at the White House:

http://www.syr.edu/images/ernie.jpg

At any rate, thinking that the only thing better than one Jim Brown in his backfield would be two Jim Browns, Paul Brown traded his first round pick plus RB Bobby Mitchell to the Redskins to acquire Davis.

This was not, supposedly, the cause of the rift between Modell and Paul Brown. In fact, Modell thought it was a great idea, and said, even recently, that if things had worked out differently the backfield of Jim Brown and Ernie Davis would have been utterly dominant.

But when Davis reported to camp after the draft, he did not quite appear to be 100%. And in an all-star game shortly after that, he looked bad. He had a swelling in his neck and went to see a doctor.

Ernie Davis was diagnosed with leukemia.

The tension between Modell and Brown was exacerbated when Brown chose not to play Davis, despite claims that Davis could withstand the physical demands of NFL action. Modell saw no harm in playing Davis, and saw a chance to make some money by playing on the drama. Brown would have nothing to do with it. Davis was allowed to attend practice and to go through certain routines away from the contact, but Brown refused to play him.

Davis was introduced in a special ceremony, and his jersey (#45) was retired, but he would never play a down and he died in May of 1963.

Perhaps taking advantage of a newspaper strike to mute public criticism, Modell fired Brown in January of 1963, and it seemed that Brown’s days as a coach were over. Many of the players that Brown had acquired proved very successful, and the team won another NFL title in 64.

In 1967, Paul Brown was enshrined in the Hall of Fame as a tribute to his many accomplishments.

But that same year, he officially returned to football as coach and part-owner of the expansion Bengals of the AFL. It took him only three years to get them to the playoffs. He would coach them for five seasons after that, and took them to the playoffs twice more.

As a club president, an elderly Paul Brown saw his Bengals win two AFC championships.

Tha father of two NFL franchises and, arguably, the greatest coach in NFL history, passed away in 1991.

Killericon

04-18-2006, 02:51 PM

Teamed with Pro Football Hall of Famers Willie Lanier and Bobby Bell to form one of the finest linebacker trios the game has ever seen . . . The trio played together for eight memorable seasons (1967-74) . . . Played in 151 games, including a string of 142 in a row . . . Manned the right linebacker spot, where he recorded 17 interceptions and 14 fumble recoveries, which is the sixth-most in franchise history . . . Had four seasons where he recorded three interceptions and two campaigns with three fumble recoveries . . . Helped Chiefs to huge victory over the Minnesota Vikings in Super Bowl IV, making four tackles . . . Played in AFL All-Star game following the 1968 season . . . Was the co-captain of Notre Dame’s 1966 national championship team and won the Maxwell Award as the nation’s outstanding defensive player . . . Has been enshrined in the College Football Hall of Fame . . . Wore jersey number 51 . . . Was a second-round pick of Kansas City in 1967 . . . Born August 28, 1945, in Lima, Ohio.
http://www.vintagesportsshoppe.com/jim.jpg

A Hall of Famer....just not an NFL Hall of famer. This would mean all three from the famous Chiefs trio of Linebackers are gone.

QB - Bart Starr
RB - Marshall Faulk
FB - Mike Alstott
WR - Tim Brown
WR - Lynn Swann
TE - Dave Casper
LT - Gary Zimmerman
LG - Will Shields
C - Tom Nalen
RG -
RT - Rayfield Wright

DE - L.C. Greenwood
DT - William Perry
DT - Warren Sapp
DE - Simeon Rice
WOLB - Jim Lynch
MLB - Al Wilson
SOLB - Ray Nischke
CB - Hanford Dixon
CB -
SS - Austin Gonsoulin
FS – Paul Krause

Old Dude

04-18-2006, 03:18 PM

Updated Alphabetical List (mid-20th round)

Adderley, Herb
Allen, Eric
Allen, Larry
Allen, Marcus
Alexander, Shaun
Alstott, Mike
Alworth, Lance
Alzado, Lyle
Arbanas, Fred
Atkins, Doug
Atwater, Steve

Bailey, Champ
Barney, Lem
Baugh, Sammy
Bavaro, Mark
Bednarik, Chuck
Bell, Bobby
Bennett, Cornelius
Berry, Raymond
Bethea, Elvin
Bettis, Jerome
Birk, Matt
Blount, Mel
Boselli, Tony
Brady, Tom
Brazile, Robert
Brooks, Derrick
Brooks, Larry
Brown, Bob "Boomer"
Brown, Jerome
Brown, Jim
Brown, Lomas
Brown, Paul*
Brown, Roosevelt
Brown, Ruben
Brown, Tim
Brown, Willie
Browner, Joey
Bruce, Isaac
Buchanan, Buck
Bulluck, Keith
Butkus, Dick

Campbell, Earl
Carmichael, Harold
Carson, Harry
Carter, Cris
Carter, Dale
Casper, Dave
Cherry, Deron
Christiansen, Jack
Coates, Ben
Creekmur, Lou
Csonka, Larry
Curtis, Mike

Davis, Terrell
Davis, Willie
Dawkins, Brian
Dawson, Dermontti
Dawson, Len
Dean, Fred
Delamielleure, Joe
Dent, Richard
Dickerson, Eric
Dierdorf, Dan
Ditka, Mike
Dixon, Hanford
Doleman, Chris
Donovan, Art
Dorsett, Tony

Easley, Kenny
Eller, Carl
Elway, John

Faneca, Alan
Faulk, Marshall
Favre, Brett
Fears, Tom
Fencik, Gary
Ford, Len
Fouts, Dan
Freeney, Dwight
Fryar, Irving

Gastineau, Mark
Gates, Antonio
Gatski, Frank
George, Bill
Gonsoulin, William "Goose"
Gonzales, Tony
Gradishar, Randy
Graham, Otto
Grange, Red
Green, Darrell
Greene, "Mean" Joe
Greene, Kevin
Greenwood, L.C.
Gregg, Forrest
Griffith, Howard
Grimm, Russ
Guy, Ray

Ham, Jack
Hamilton, Ben
Hampton, Dan
Hanks, Merton
Hannah, John
Harris, Cliff
Harrison, Marvin
Harrison, Rodney
Hayes, Lester
Haynes, Mike
Heap, Todd
Hein, Mel
Hendricks, Ted
Hickerson, Gene
Hinton, Chris
Hirsch, Elroy "Crazy Legs"
Holt, Tory
Houston, Ken
Howley, Chuck
Huff, Sam
Humphrey, Claude
Hutson, Don

Irvin, Michael

Jackson, Bo
Jackson, Rich “Tombstone”
Jackson, Ricky
Jackson, Tom
Jacoby, Joe
James, Edgerrin
Johnson, Chad
Johnson, Jimmy
Johnson, Keyshawn
Joiner, Charlie
Jones, Deacon
Jones, Ed "Too Tall"
Jones, Stan
Jones, Walter
Jordan, Henry

Karras, Alex
Kelly, Leroy
Kennedy, Cortez
Kinard, Frank "Bruiser"
Klecko, Joe
Kramer, Jerry
Krause, Paul
Kruetz, Owen
Kuechenberg, Bob

Lambert, Jack
Lane, Dick "Night Train"
Langer, Jim
Lanier, Willie
Largent, Steve
Lary, Yale
Lavelli, Dante
Law, Ty
LeBeau, Dick
Lewis, Albert
Lewis, Ray
Lilly, Bob
Lipscomb, Gene "Big Daddy"
Little, Larry
Lofton, James
Long, Howie
Lott, Ronnie
Lynch, Jim
Lynch, John

Mack, Tom
Mackey, John
Manning, Peyton
Marchetti, Gino
Marino, Dan
Marshall, Wilber
Matthews, Bruce
Mawae, Kevin
McCormack, Mike
McDaniel, Randall
Mecklenburg, Karl
Mitchell, Bobby
Mix, Ron
Monk, Art
Montana, Joe
Moon, Warren
Moore, Herman
Moore, Lenny
Moss, Randy
Motely, Marion
Munchak, Mike
Munoz, Anthony
Musso, George

Nagurski, Bronko
Nalen, Tom
Neal, Lorenzo
Newsome, Ozzie
Newton, Nate
Nischke, Ray
Nobis, Tommy
Nomellini, Leo

O'Neal, Leslie
Ogden, Jonathan
Olsen, Merlin
Otto, Jim
Owens, Terrell

Pace, Orlando
Page, Alan
Parker, Jim
Parrish, Lemar
Payton, Walter
Peppers, Julius
Perry, William
Pihos, Pete
Polamalu, Troy
Porter, Joey
Pryce, Trevor

Randle, John
Reed, Andre
Reed, Ed
Renfro, Mel
Rice, Jerry
Rice Simeon
Riggins, John
Ringo, Jim
Roaf, Willie
Robustelli, Andy
Romanowski, Bill

Sanders, Barry
Sanders, Charlie
Sanders, Deion
Sapp, Warren
Sayers, Gale
Schlereth, Mark
Schmidt, Joe
Seau, Junior
Selmon, Lee Roy
Shanahan, Mike*
Sharpe, Shannon
Sharpe, Sterling
Shaw, Billy
Shell, Art
Shields, Will
Shockey, Jeremy
Simpson, OJ
Singletary, Mike
Siragusa, Tony
Slater, Jackie
Smith, Bubba
Smith, Bruce
Smith, Dennis
Smith, Emmitt
Smith, Jackie
Smith, Neil
Smith, Rod
Smith, Steve
St Clair, Bob
Stallworth, John
Starr, Bart
Staubach, Roger
Stautner, Ernie
Stenrud, Jan
Stephenson, Dwight
Stepnoski, Mark
Strahan, Michael
Stroud, Marcus
Swann, Eric
Swann, Lynn

Tarkenton, Fran
Tatum, Jack
Taylor, Charley
Taylor, Jim
Taylor, Lawrence
Thomas, Derrick
Thomas, Thurman
Thomas, Zach
Thompson, Billy
Thorpe, Jim
Tippett, Andre
Tomlinson, LaDanian
Tunnell, Emlen
Turley, Kyle
Turner, Clyde "Bulldog”

Unitas, Johnny
Upshaw, Gene
Urlacher, Brian

Van Buren, Steve
Van Pelt, Brad
Vilma, Jonathan
Vinatieri, Adam

Walls, Everson
Ward, Hines
Warfield, Paul
Washington, Russ
Waters, Brian
Webb, Richmond
Webster, Mike
Wehrli, Roger
Weinmeister, Arnie
White, Randy
White, Reggie
Wilcox, Dave
Williams, Aeneas
Williams, Kevin
Wilson, Al
Wilson, Larry
Winslow, Kellen
Wisenewski, Steve
Wood, Willie
Woodson, Charles
Woodson, Darren
Woodson, Rod
Wright, Louis
Wright, Rayfield

Yary, Ron
Young, Steve
Youngblood, Jack

Zimmerman, Gary

* coaches

Killericon

04-18-2006, 04:22 PM

My Next Pick:

|Ronde Barber, CB, Buccaneers|

JCMElway

04-18-2006, 06:51 PM

Phibacka selects Bob Sanders, S, Indy Colts.

JCMElway

04-18-2006, 06:52 PM

The sacrelegends are on the clock until 8:00 AM CST.

JCMElway

04-18-2006, 06:54 PM

Billy Clyde Puckett

04-18-2006, 07:18 PM

The sacrelegends are on the clock until 8:00 AM CST.

Who are the next 2-3 teams to pick? I'm ready. :)

JCMElway

04-18-2006, 07:45 PM

Slap, Big Guy, and Eddie Mac are on deck after Clockwork selects.

Old Dude

04-18-2006, 08:14 PM

OD, you are starting to A N G E R me! I can't believe you snagged my coach! And I like him for the same reasons you did! ARRRGH!!!!!!! I guess great minds think alike.....

At least make me feel better, did I snag anyone you wanted?

LOL

It's weird that I'm getting so many Browns here. Back in the day when the NFL & AFL were seperate, most of us Bronco fans had some NFL team we rooted for on the side.

My grandpappy was a player/coach for a small St.Louis Cardinals Baseball farm club back in the 30's so, lacking any better reason, I used to pull for the St. Louis
Cardinals Football team.

I despised the Browns.

Clockwork Orange

04-18-2006, 08:16 PM

The Sacrelegends select Tom Rathman, FB 49ers/Raiders

http://www.sportsecyclopedia.com/nfl/sf49/Rathman49.jpg

QB: Warren Moon
RB: LaDanian Tomlinson
FB: Tom Rathman
WR: Randy Moss
WR: Art Monk
TE: Todd Heap
OT: Jackie Slater
OG: Russ Grimm
C: Mike Webster
OG: Nate Newton
OT:

DE: Reggie White
DT: Art Donovan
DT:
DE: Jack Youngblood

LB: Harry Carson
LB: Zach Thomas
LB: Wilber Marshall

CB: Charles Woodson
CB: Eric Allen
FS: Darren Woodson
SS: Rodney Harrison

K:
P:

Coach:

-Slap-

04-18-2006, 08:59 PM

The KnockYerDickintheDirts add the final piece to their defense and select Fred Dean DE San Diego, San Francisco 1975-1985.

http://www.sportsecyclopedia.com/nfl/sandiego/FdeanSD.jpg

Dean was arguably the most influential defensive linemen in NFL history. He was the first true hybrid DE/OLB and the 49ers invented the Elephant position for him, a term many teams adopted and some still use today. His success spawned Charles Haley's career, as well as dozens of other players formerly branded as tweeners.

Nobody had any idea the 49ers were going to be the team of the 80s three weeks into the 1981 season. The team was 1-2 and had allowed 75 points on defense. Then the 49ers swung a deal to acquire Fred Dean from the Chargers. They won 10 of their next 11 games and only allowed more than 17 points once. Most knowledgable 49er fans will point to Dean's acquisition as the turning point in their season.

Dean came into the League as a second round pick from Louisiana Tech. Undersized at 6'3", 230 pounds, he was possibly the fastest defensive linemen who ever played the game. He eventually packed on another 20 pounds of muscle, but he didn't lose a bit of quickness. He was roughly as fast off the ball as Dwight Freeney is now, but we're talking about 25 years ago. One reason he was named to four Pro Bowls and the Defensive Player of the Year in each Conference. He was a semi-finalist for the Hall of Fame last year and the only reason he hasn't been inducted already is that his career was cut short by injury.

Johnny Unitas
Earl Campbell
Shannon Sharpe
John Hannah
Randy Gradishar
Jack Ham
Doug Atkins
Lenny Moore
Torry Holt
Dennis Smith
Buck Buchanan
Brian Dawkins
Bob "Boomer" Brown
Aeneas Williams
Russ Washington
Gene "Big Daddy" Lipscomb
Andre Tippett
Olin Kruetz
Lemar Parrish
Fred Dean

The KnockYerDickintheDirts
QB - Johnny Unitas
RB - Earl Campbell
FB -
LT - Bob Brown
LG - John Hannah
C - Olin Kruetz
RG -
RT - Russ Washington
TE - Shannon Sharpe
WR - Lenny Moore
WR - Torry Holt

LDE - Doug Atkins
LDT - Gene "Big Daddy" Lipscomb
RDT - Buck Buchanan
RDE - Fred Dean
SLB - Jack Ham
MLB - Randy Gradishar
WLB - Andre Tippett
FS - Brian Dawkins
SS - Dennis Smith
CB - Aeneas Williams
CB - Lemar Parrish

K -
P -

Billy Clyde Puckett

04-18-2006, 09:12 PM

Old Farts can't believe theri eyes. Even though they have a full DL, they can't pass up Jim Marshall for depth and versatility.

Jim Marshall (born December 30, 1937) was born in Danville, Kentucky and played college football at Ohio State. He left school before his senior year, and played for the Saskatchewan Roughriders of the Canadian Football League. He was then drafted in the 4th round of the 1960 NFL draft by the Cleveland Browns. Marshall played the 1960 season with the Browns. He played from 1961 to 1979 with the Minnesota Vikings. He played in 270 consecutive games at defensive end from 1960 to 1979, a National Football League record broken by New York Giants punter Jeff Feagles in the 2005 season (but the record remains as a ski ll position record).

He played in Pro Bowls after the 1968 and 1969 NFL seasons. He recovered 29 fumbles, an NFL record. He was a member of the Vikings' famous "Purple People Eaters". He was the final player from Minnesota's initial expansion team of 1961 to retire.

Despite his enormous success as an NFL player, Jim Marshall is most famous for an incident on October 25, 1964. In a game against the San Francisco 49ers, Marshall recovered a fumble, but ran 66 yards with it the wrong way, into his own end zone. Thinking that he had scored a touchdown for the Vikings, Marshall then threw the ball way in celebration. The ball landed out of bounds, resulting in a safety for the 49ers. Fortunately for Marshall, his Vikings won the game anyway, 27-22.

Billy Clyde Puckett

04-18-2006, 09:13 PM

THE OLD FARTS

QB - Roger Staubach
RB - OJ Simpson, Jim Taylor
FB -
WR - Paul Warfield
WR - Harold Carmichael
TE - John Mackey
T - Bob St Clair
G -Joe Delamielleure
C - Jim Ringo
G- Jerry Kramer
T - Stan Jones

DE - Bubba Smith
DT - Alex Karras, Jim Marshall
DT - Randy White
DE - Ed Too Tall Jones
WOLB - Brad Van Pelt
MLB - Joe Schmidt
SOLB -
CB - Lem Barney
CB -
SS - Dick LeBeau
FS -

JCMElway

04-18-2006, 09:38 PM

The KnockYerDickintheDirts add the final piece to their defense and select Fred Dean DE San Diego, San Francisco 1975-1985.

Sorry Slap, Br LB 52 took Dean previously in this round:

My team selects Fred Dean DE, San Diego and San Francisco

Sorry -Slap- for taking your boy.

-Slap-

04-18-2006, 09:41 PM

Sorry Slap, Br LB 52 took Dean previously in this round:

My team selects Fred Dean DE, San Diego and San Francisco

Sorry -Slap- for taking your boy.
Now I see that. The alpha list wasn't updated when I selected. No problem. I'll have another pick up directly.

JCMElway

04-18-2006, 09:42 PM

Now I see that. The alpha list wasn't updated when I selected. No problem. I'll have another pick up directly.

Great! It happened before OD did an update. Thanks!

eddie mac

04-18-2006, 09:43 PM

Eddie Mac selects NICK BUONICONTI MLB 1962-76, Boston Patriots and Miami Dolphins

Nicholas Anthony Buoniconti. . .Thirteenth-round AFL draft pick, 1962. . . Made immediate impact with Patriots. . . Played in five AFL All-Star Games with Patriots, one with Dolphins. . .Following AFL-NFL merger, named to two Pro Bowls. . . Driving force behind Miami’s famed “No-Name Defense”. . .Played in three Super Bowls. . .Named first team All-AFL/AFC eight times. . .Voted to All-Time AFL team, 1969. . .Born December 15, 1940, in Springfield, Massachusetts

Nick Buoniconti played guard on offense and linebacker on defense at Notre Dame. An undersized player, he defied all the numbers by which pro scouts judge potential. He wasn’t even drafted by a National Football League team, and lasted until the thirteenth round of the 1962 American Football League Draft, before being tapped by the Boston Patriots. Even his coach at Notre Dame advised AFL and NFL scouts that he was too small to play in the pros. However, as several coaches later noted, Buoniconti “played bigger than his size.”

The 5-11, 220-pound middle linebacker went on to play 14 seasons (1962-1974, 1976) with the Patriots and the Miami Dolphins. Determined to succeed, the Springfield, Massachusetts native made an immediate impact at linebacker with the Patriots helping the team capture the 1963 AFL Eastern Division title. During his seven seasons with the Pats, the hard-hitting, freelancing linebacker recorded 24 interceptions which still ranks as seventh in team history. He had a career-high five interceptions in 1964, and in one game in 1968 against the Buffalo Bills he grabbed three errant passes. Although he never returned an interception for a touchdown, he twice scored on fumble recoveries.

Buoniconti played in five AFL All-Star games as a Patriot and a sixth after being traded to the Dolphins in 1969. That season he was named the team’s Most Valuable Player, an honor he would again be awarded in 1970 and 1973. His outstanding play in 1972 and 1973 earned him two more Pro Bowl berths, and in 1973, he set a then-team record of 162 tackles, 91 of which were unassisted. The driving force of the Dolphins’ famed “No Name Defense,” Nick inspired his teammates with his outstanding play and fiery leadership.

During his years with the Dolphins the team advanced to three straight Super Bowl appearances, winning two, with one coming after their incredible undefeated season in 1972. “Every play is like life or death,” he once said, when asked why he was so relentless. “I can’t think of anything except the play that is taking place at the moment.” Buoniconti, who recorded 32 career interceptions, was named to the All-Time AFL team in 1970, and was named a first team All-AFL/AFC choice eight times.

QB Joe Montana
RB Gale Sayers
FB Bronko Nagurski
WR Lance Alworth
WR Raymond Berry
OT Walter Jones
OT Lomas Brown
OG Tom Mack
OG
OC Frank Gatski

DE Lee Roy Selmon
DE Richard Dent
NT Arnie Weinmeister
LB Kevin Greene
LB Bill George
LB Nick Buoniconti
LB Cornelius Bennett
CB Deion Sanders
S Willie Wood
S Yale Lary
CB
K
P
KR/PR Deion Sanders

JCMElway

04-18-2006, 09:50 PM

Phi sig is on the clock until 11 AM CST.

BMF Bronco, Arkie (X2), BMF Bronco and phisig are on deck.

Old Dude

04-18-2006, 09:59 PM

Phi sig is on the clock until 11 AM CST.

BMF Bronco, Arkie (X2), BMF Bronco and phisig are on deck.

and -slap- can enter his corrected pick at any time ...

We are cruisin' today. Good job guys.

phisig150

04-18-2006, 10:09 PM

Sorry guys I had to work a little overtime today and unfortunately I only have access to reality related sites. I think I'll complete my o-line and take Steve Hutchinson g Vikings. There's a reason this guys getting a billion dollars a season just ask Alexander.

phisig150

04-18-2006, 10:11 PM

Oh I thought the pick was made at 11am. I guess I didn't hold up the draft afterall. Cool.

-Slap-

04-18-2006, 10:20 PM

Changing gears, I can't stand to watch Curtis Martin slide any further. The fourth leading rusher in NFL history with 14101 yards. Ten straight 1000 yard seasons, including a league leading 1697 yards and 12 touchdowns in 2004, at the age of 32.

http://i.cnn.net/si/2003/writers/b_duane_cross/12/15/full.blitz.15/p1_martin_getty.jpg

Johnny Unitas
Earl Campbell
Shannon Sharpe
John Hannah
Randy Gradishar
Jack Ham
Doug Atkins
Lenny Moore
Torry Holt
Dennis Smith
Buck Buchanan
Brian Dawkins
Bob "Boomer" Brown
Aeneas Williams
Russ Washington
Gene "Big Daddy" Lipscomb
Andre Tippett
Olin Kruetz
Lemar Parrish
Curtis Martin

The KnockYerDickintheDirts
QB - Johnny Unitas
RB - Earl Campbell - Curtis Martin
FB -
LT - Bob Brown
LG - John Hannah
C - Olin Kruetz
RG -
RT - Russ Washington
TE - Shannon Sharpe
WR - Lenny Moore
WR - Torry Holt

LDE - Doug Atkins
LDT - Gene "Big Daddy" Lipscomb
RDT - Buck Buchanan
RDE -
SLB - Jack Ham
MLB - Randy Gradishar
WLB - Andre Tippett
FS - Brian Dawkins
SS - Dennis Smith
CB - Aeneas Williams
CB - Lemar Parrish

K -
P -

JCMElway

04-18-2006, 10:26 PM

Oh I thought the pick was made at 11am. I guess I didn't hold up the draft afterall. Cool.

Thanks Sig,

If you find you want to make a pick differetn than Hutchinson you can jettison him and replace hime with someone else at any time.

JCMElway

04-18-2006, 10:27 PM

BMF Bronco is on the clock until 11:30 AM CST

Arkie (X2), BMF Bronco, Phisig, and Eddie Mac are on deck. If anyone would like to PM me and Old Dude with picks to keep this thing moving, that'd be great!

phisig150

04-18-2006, 10:40 PM

Thanks Sig,

If you find you want to make a pick differetn than Hutchinson you can jettison him and replace hime with someone else at any time.

No I really like Hutchinson. He was next on my draftboard. My next pick if still there I think could be one of the top steals of the draft.

JCMElway

04-18-2006, 10:42 PM

No I really like Hutchinson. He was next on my draftboard. My next pick if still there I think could be one of the top steals of the draft.

OK, we'll see when BMF and Arkie get in.

Killericon

04-18-2006, 11:36 PM

I already hid my next pick.....Let's keep this up, guys!

Old Dude

04-19-2006, 08:51 AM

BMF needs help along the interior of both lines ... a couple guards to flank Mawae and a DT or two.

BMF Bronco

04-19-2006, 09:01 AM

I am researching as we speak

BMF Bronco

04-19-2006, 09:09 AM

Howard Mudd, Guard

Old Dude

04-19-2006, 09:21 AM

Howard Mudd, Guard

Not a bad pick at all.

Mudd played for the 49ers & Bears from 64 through 70, made all pro three times, and was named as one of three guards to the NFL's all-decade team for the 1960s.

Old Dude

04-19-2006, 09:23 AM

Arkie is now on the clock with back-to-back picks and has until 10:15 P.M. CST.

Old Dude

04-19-2006, 10:04 AM

I'm sitting on the edge of my seat, hoping my next target can slide down through ten more picks. I put him off over & over but things are getting worrisome...

JCMElway

04-19-2006, 11:16 AM

I'm sitting on the edge of my seat, hoping my next target can slide down through ten more picks. I put him off over & over but things are getting worrisome...

Chances are I want him too! Grrrrrrrrr.......

Old Dude

04-19-2006, 11:25 AM

Chances are I want him too! Grrrrrrrrr.......

LOL Probably not. The guy I have in mind is a little obscure, and there were a couple points that concerned me, but I was amazed at what my research turned up.

Arkie

04-19-2006, 05:26 PM

I select...

George Kunz, OT Falcons/Colts 1969-80
Kunz was selected in the 1st Round of the 1969 NFL Draft by the Falcons with the 2nd overall selection after a stellar collegiate career at Notre Dame where he was a consensus All-American his senior season in 1968.
http://www.nearmintcards.com/pics/1971+Topps/109.jpg
Kunz established himself as one of the premier offensive linemen of his generation, being named to the Pro Bowl team 8 times (1969, 1971-'77) in a 9 year span. In addition, Kunz was named All-Pro in 1975, 2nd Team All-Pro in 1973, 1976 & 1977 and 2nd Team All-NFC in 1972 & 1974.

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Donnie Shell, SS, Steelers 1974-87
(born August 26, 1952) is a former American Football strong safety for the Pittsburgh Steelers in the National Football League between 1974 and 1987. Shell was a member of the Steelers famed Steel Curtain defense in the 1970s. Shell won four Super Bowls, and retired as the NFL strong safety career leader in interceptions with 51. He started 11 straight years for the Steelers and was selected to the Steelers All-Time Team, the College Football Hall of Fame, and to the NFL Silver Anniversary Super Bowl Team.
http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/pic/PHO/AAED018~Donnie-Shell-Action-Photofile-Posters.jpg
Shell attended college in South Carolina State University and was signed undrafted by the Steelers where was a five time Pro Bowler between 1978 and 1982 and was the Steelers team MVP in 1980. He had been in the top 15 in balloting for the Pro Football Hall of Fame once before, in 2001 but with no success. He is currently the Carolina Panthers Director of Player Development, a position he has held since 1994.

Old Dude

04-19-2006, 06:20 PM

BMF Bronco PMd me ahead of time with his next pick.

[Dick Stanfel] was born in San Francisco twenty-one years after the earthquake and with much less commotion. When he reached Commerce High School, he made the football team as a 5'8", 155-pound blocking back. He was ranked as the third-best signal-caller within the city limits, but, by that time, the T- formation was becoming the rage. Single-wing blocking backs -- particularly undersized blocking backs -- headed few college coaches' shopping lists. In the fall of 1946, Dick entered San Francisco Junior College where the football coach decided his future lay at guard.

Shortly thereafter, the U.S. Army decided on a different immediate future altogether and Dick became a signal corpsman for a year and a half. When he returned to school, all that good army chow -- or something -- had increased him to a man-sized 6'2" and 192 pounds.

In 1948, onetime all-NFL guard Joe Kuharich arrived as head coach at the University of San Francisco. He installed the sophomore Stanfel as a starting guard on both offense and defense. Though Joe's first Dons' squad limped to a 2-9 mark, it marked the start of a long intertwining of Kuharich's career with Stanfel's. In 1949, USF jumped to a 7-3 mark, and the next year -- with Stanfel as senior captain -- 8-2.
...

The Detroit Lions' second round draft choice for '51, he was chosen for the College All-Star game that August, but tore up a knee cartilege so badly he sat out the whole season.

Two operations later, Stanfel -- by then a fast, 6-3, 240-pounder -- became a regular on the Lions' offensive line in his belated rookie year. It was no coincidence that Detroit made its great leap forward in 1952 to win [its] first NFL championship in almost twenty years. They repeated the next year, and got to the title game in '54. The Lions had more than their share of glittering stars: quarterback Bobby Layne, halfback Doak Walker, the whole "Chris Crew" defensive backfield, and ... Joe Schmidt.

But, of course, everything starts with the offensive line. The Lions were known as a "passing team," but even though they had no single, heavy-duty runner, they consistently finished among the top three NFL teams in rushing yardage. When Dick arrived on the scene, Lou Creekmur was the big blocking noise among the grunts. Later, such stalwarts as Harley Sewell and Chalie Ane were added. Certainly Stanfel didn't stand alone along what had to be considered the best blocking line in football. No single lineman can excel if his fellow blockers can't do the job.

Nevertheless, Stanfel was voted unanimous all-NFL in 1953 and '54 and selected to the Pro Bowl after the '53 and '55 seasons. The second Pro Bowl tab is particularly noteworthy because it came after a year that saw him miss half his team's games with an injury. But ... his most significant honor ... came at the end of 1953 when his teammates on the World Champion squad voted him the club's Most Valuable Player.

Teammate Doak Walker benefitted from Dick's blocking during those years: "When he pulled and cut upfield, we made yardage. He was very nearly the same as Lou Creekmur, but Stanfel had the edge. I would rate him higher than [Dick] Barwegan or [Abe] Gibron. Dependable and hard-working, he could pull or block straight ahead, and he'd play hurt."

Art Donovan, the Colt's great defensive lineman, played against Stanfel for years. He felt Dick's strong suit was run-blocking. "Great pulling guard -- superb in that area," he says.

Another Hall of Fame defender, Andy Robustelli, said, "Steady. So steady you didn't realize how good he was. [Dick was] as good an offensive lineman as anyone who played in the NFL during his time." But after thinking that over, Robustelli decided that Stanfel was "not as good as Parker." Of course, as anyone who follows football knows, there may never have been an offensive lineman to rate with Baltimore's Jim Parker. But those ranking in the next tier down wouldn't fill a one-car garage -- even allowing for the size of NFL linemen.

While Stanfel was helping the Lions win championships, his old college mentor Kuharich had become coach of the Washington Redskins. The 'Skins had nestled at the bottom of the NFL standings for nearly a decade when Joe arrived. He managed to return them to respectability for a while. In 1956, he worked a trade that brought Stanfel to Washington.

Unfortunately, Kuharich's Redskins roster lacked the depth to make many advantageous trades possible, and owner George Preston Marshall's policy of refusing to draft black players virtually doomed his team to a backslide. But while Washington's record slipped, Stanfel soared. For three straight seasons -- 1956-58 -- he was chosen for the Pro Bowl and named all-NFL by both AP and UPI. In seven seasons, he'd missed being named all-league in only his rookie year and the injury-plagued 1955. At age 31, he was at the top of his game.

And then he retired.

To younger fans, it may seem inconceivable that an all-pro would walk away from the NFL at the height of his career, but it was fairly common in the 1950's.

...

The reason, of course, was money. NFL players -- even stars of the first magnitude -- were not lavishly salaried in the '50s. Most players found off-season employment a necessity in supporting a family. When a full-time career opportunity beckoned, most players were quick to hang up their spikes.

In Stanfel's case, the opportunity was tendered by Joe Kuharich. Fired by Marshall at Washington after the 1958 season, he landed on his feet as the new head coach at Notre Dame for 1959. As his line coach, he took with him his best lineman, Dick Stanfel.

Dick was 31 at the time. Only three starting offensive lineman in the NFL were older than 31 in 1958 -- Lou Groza, Chuck Bednarik, and Abe Gibron. It was time to look for a permanent career.

... Stanfel quickly established himself as an outstanding line coach. After four years at South Bend, he spent 1963 at the University of California. Kuharich brought him back to the NFL in 1964 when the Eagles hired Joe as head coach. At Philadelphia, Stanfel was given much of the credit for the development of the great tackle Bob Brown.

In 1971, Stanfel returned to San Francisco as an assistant with the 49ers. In 1976, Hank Stram hired him at New Orleans. The Saints gave Dick his only shot as a head coach -- four games at the end of the 1980 season and a "career record" of 1-3. Since 1981, Stanfel has been with the Chicago Bears where he built one of pro football's most celebrated offensive lines during the decade.

Just how high to rank Stanfel among all those who have played offensive guard in the NFL, is complicated by his comparatively short career. Bill James, the popular baseball writer, made a point in evaluating the careers of diamond stars that applies equally to gridders. James noted that players have two kinds of value -- "career value," in which longevity is a major factor, and "peak value," in which a player's career may be relatively short, but during that time he ranks at or near the top of his profession. To draw a football comparison, Franco Harris played 13 seasons and ranks very high in "career value" even though he may never have had a year in which he was the NFL's top running back. Gale Sayers had only five productive years, but during that "peak" time, he was the most valuable runner in the league.

Offensive guards, of course, take longer to be noticed than running backs, so career length becames an easier factor to throw into any evaluation. Nevertheless, Stanfel's five all-NFL sea- sons in seven years makes him a standout. The Hall of Fame Selection Committee had no trouble recognizing him in naming him one of three guards (along with Parker and Barwegan) to its All- Pro Squad of the 1950's.

On an absolute scale among NFL guards since the game became a two-platoon affair, Jim Parker is usually accorded first place, followed by John Hannah and Gene Upshaw. After those three, there are several candidates, but possibly as high as fourth -- and certainly in the top half- dozen -- Dick Stanfel.

From:
http://footballresearch.com/articles/frpage.cfm?topic=stanfel

phisig150

04-19-2006, 06:36 PM

Richard Seymour. Can't beleve this guy lasted this long. 3 time Superbowl winner, 3 times all pro, 4 time pro bowler. Not bad for a guy that's only been in the league 5 years.

Old Dude

04-19-2006, 06:43 PM

We are cruisin! Eddie Mac is back on the clock!

-Slap-

04-19-2006, 06:50 PM

We are cruisin! Eddie Mac is back on the clock!
What's the batting order tonight, Old Dude?

Old Dude

04-19-2006, 07:05 PM

What's the batting order tonight, Old Dude?

Eddie Mack is on the clock until 8:00 a.m. tomorrow.

On Deck:

Big Guy
-Slap-
Clockwork Orange

after that ...

Phibacka31
Old Dude
Killericon
Ray Finkle
Bronco LB 52
Toad
Dipsomaniac
Mr. Trout
JCMElway

and then the snake loops back.

eddie mac

04-19-2006, 07:06 PM

Eddie Mac selects Bill Fralic OG Atlanta Falcons 85-92, Detroit Lions 93

The football term "pancake" was originated for him as a statistic for whenever he put a defensive lineman on his back.

Elected to the University of Pittsburgh Hall of Fame.

Second overall draft pick by the Atlanta Falcons in 1985. Played 8 seasons with the Falcons (1985 - 1992). Signed with the Detroit Lions for one season in 1993. Retired after the season ended.

Jersey #79 retired by University of Pittsburgh (1984).

Attended University of Pittsburgh where he was an All-American offensive tackle (1982) and Consensus All-American (1983, 1984) for the Panthers football team.

Elected to the College Football Hall of Fame (1999).

4 time Pro Bowler, 86-89 and voted onto the all NFL Decade team for the 1980's

THE FIGHTING IRISH

QB Joe Montana
RB Gale Sayers
FB Bronko Nagurski
WR Lance Alworth
WR Raymond Berry
TE Ben Coates
OT Walter Jones
OT Lomas Brown
OG Tom Mack
OG Bill Fralic
OC Frank Gatski

DE Lee Roy Selmon
DE Richard Dent
NT Arnie Weinmeister
LB Kevin Greene
LB Bill George
LB Nick Buoniconti
LB Cornelius Bennett
CB Deion Sanders
S Willie Wood
S Yale Lary
CB
K
P
KR/PR Deion Sanders

Old Dude

04-19-2006, 07:12 PM

Had to double check, because I think he was almost taken a few rounds ago, but the pick was changed, so he's still available. Nice pick.

Big Guy is on the clock until 8:00 a.m. tomorrow, and -Slap- is on deck.

-Slap-

04-19-2006, 07:14 PM

Big Guy
-Slap-
Clockwork Orange

after that ...

Phibacka31
Old Dude
Killericon
Ray Finkle
Bronco LB 52
Toad
Dipsomaniac
Mr. Trout
JCMElway

and then the snake loops back.

Cool. With five DL on his roster already, there's no way Big Guy will select another one right now, so I'll put the final piece of my starting defense in place tonight.

Billy Clyde Puckett

04-19-2006, 07:18 PM

Cool. With five DL on his roster already, there's no way Big Guy will select another one right now, so I'll put the final piece of my starting defense in place tonight.

You know how much I like those Defensive linemen so maybe I should grab another ;D

HOMER ALERT!!!! :homer:

To fill that all important free safety position, the Old Farts take a guy that many wish the Broncs could get today;

Dick Anderson

Name: Dick Anderson
Position: Defensive Back
Number: 40
Height/Weight: 6-2, 196
College: Colorado
Drafted: 1968 third round, by Miami
Hometown: Boulder, CO
Born: 2/10/46
Career: Anderson spent his entire nine-year career with the Miami Dolphins, setting numerous team and individual records for interceptions and return yardage. A three-time All-Pro selection, Anderson played in 98 consecutive Dolphins games (109 including postseason) until stretching ligaments in the 1975 Pro Bowl which caused him to miss the entire 1975 season and the beginning of the 1976 season. He was named NFL Defensive Player of the Year in 1973 by the Associated Press after his third career eight interception season (1968, 1970, and 1973). The eight interceptions during his rookie campaign is still a team record, and his two interceptions at Boston (11/24/68) also set a Dolphins rookie record, which has since been equaled three times (Jake Scott 12/7/69; Don McNeal 10/12/80; Jarvis Williams 10/9/88). His 34 career interceptions rank second all-time on the Dolphins list, one behind Jake Scott's 35. Anderson had his best game as a pro as the Dolphins defeated the Pittsburgh Steelers, 30-26, on a Monday night (12/3/73) during the Dolphins perfect season. In that game he set a club record with four interceptions (all in the first half) for 121 yards, returning two of them for touchdowns (27 and 38 yards). Other Dolphins records which Anderson holds include most career interception return yardage (792), most interception return yards in a season (230 in 1968), for a 28.8 average, most fumble recoveries in a career (17, tied with Bob Baumhower) and season (six in 1972), most takeaways in a career (51), season (11 in 1970, tied with Jake Scott), game (four, tied with Jeris White), and most takeaways by a rookie (nine). His return of four interceptions for 121 yards against Pittsburgh is second all-time behind Louis Oliver's 170 yards (10/4/92) for most return yardage in one game. Anderson's return of a Tom Sherman pass for a 96-yard touchdown is the third longest in team history behind Louis Oliver's 103-yard return of a Jim Kelly pass for a touchdown (10/4/92) and Brock Marion's 100-yard return of a Travis Brown pass against Buffalo (1/6/02). He also holds two Dolphins playoff records with five interceptions in eleven playoff games, and his 62-yard return of a John Unitas pass for a touchdown (1/2/72) is the longest interception return in team playoff history.

Billy Clyde Puckett

04-19-2006, 07:19 PM

Old Dude

04-19-2006, 07:27 PM

Dick Anderson was an awesome player. I saw him play many times at CU.

Here's a piece of personal trivia for you. Dick's brother, Bobby (later a Bronco RB), asked my future wife out for a date the same night that I did. She chose me. Ha!

Back to the show.

- Slap- is on the clock.

-Slap-

04-19-2006, 07:43 PM

The KnockYerDickintheDirts select the first and only man to collect five Super Bowl Rings,
Charles Haley DE San Francisco, Dallas 1986-1999.

http://i.a.cnn.net/si/2005/writers/michael_silver/08/19/silver.to.haley/p1_haley.jpg

Drafted in the fourth round of the 49ers historic 1986 draft, Haley quickly assumed the famed Elephant position left vacant by Fred Dean's untimely retirement the year before. The Niners hardly missed a beat, winning two more Super Bowls with Haley bringing heat from the blindside.

Things soured between Haley and San Francisco management when Ronnie Lott was forced out after the 1990 season. After a 1991 season filled with often outrageous insubordination - lowlighted by Haley urinating on teammate Tim Harris' sports car in the team parking lot and performing an even more disgusting act during a team meeting - he got his wish and was dealt to the Dallas Cowboys in 1992.

This was a major miscalculation by the Niners. Dallas was right on the verge of becoming a major force and the acquisition of Haley put them over the top. The Cowboys went on to win the Super Bowl that year and three of the next four. You can always spot a shallow football fan because they'll point to Deion Sanders as the player who swung the balance of power between Frisco and Dallas, but the Haley trade was what really made the difference.

Johnny Unitas
Earl Campbell
Shannon Sharpe
John Hannah
Randy Gradishar
Jack Ham
Doug Atkins
Lenny Moore
Torry Holt
Dennis Smith
Buck Buchanan
Brian Dawkins
Bob "Boomer" Brown
Aeneas Williams
Russ Washington
Gene "Big Daddy" Lipscomb
Andre Tippett
Olin Kruetz
Lemar Parrish
Curtis Martin
Charles Haley

The KnockYerDickintheDirts
QB - Johnny Unitas
RB - Earl Campbell - Curtis Martin
FB -
LT - Bob Brown
LG - John Hannah
C - Olin Kruetz
RG -
RT - Russ Washington
TE - Shannon Sharpe
WR - Lenny Moore
WR - Torry Holt

LDE - Doug Atkins
LDT - Gene "Big Daddy" Lipscomb
RDT - Buck Buchanan
RDE - Charles Haley
SLB - Jack Ham
MLB - Randy Gradishar
WLB - Andre Tippett
FS - Brian Dawkins
SS - Dennis Smith
CB - Aeneas Williams
CB - Lemar Parrish

K -
P -

Old Dude

04-19-2006, 07:46 PM

Sweet pick. I thought he was going to go four or five rounds ago.

Old Dude

04-19-2006, 07:47 PM

Clockwork Orange is on the clock until 8:45 a.m. cst, tomorrow.

Phibacka31 is on deck.

(Neither seem to be around at the moment, so this might be as far as we get tonight, but great job nonetheless.)

P.S. In fairness, the reason she went out with me instead of Bobby is because I was the one she was engaged to.)

-Slap-

04-19-2006, 07:57 PM

Sweet pick. I thought he was going to go four or five rounds ago.
Only man with five Rings, and he was a major force on those teams, and probably the only man brave enough to mess with Tim "This ain't a tennis match" Harris.

Clockwork Orange

04-19-2006, 08:36 PM

The Sacrelegends select Erik Williams, OT Cowboys.

http://amarillo.com/images/headlines/081299/williams.jpg

QB: Warren Moon
RB: LaDanian Tomlinson
FB: Tom Rathman
WR: Randy Moss
WR: Art Monk
TE: Todd Heap
OT: Jackie Slater
OG: Russ Grimm
C: Mike Webster
OG: Nate Newton
OT: Erik Williams

DE: Reggie White
DT: Art Donovan
DT:
DE: Jack Youngblood

LB: Harry Carson
LB: Zach Thomas
LB: Wilber Marshall

CB: Charles Woodson
CB: Eric Allen
FS: Darren Woodson
SS: Rodney Harrison

K:
P:

Coach:

JCMElway

04-19-2006, 09:13 PM

Phibacka selects Lofa Tatupu, MLB, Seahawks.

Old Dude is on the clock until 10:00 AM CST.

Kilerico, Ray Finkle, and Bronco LB 52 are on deck.

Billy Clyde Puckett

04-19-2006, 09:21 PM

JCMElway

04-19-2006, 09:26 PM

This is funny. How often do we have to wait for Old Dude to make a pick? Heh.

JCMElway

04-19-2006, 09:28 PM

From Slap's pick:

"and performing an even more disgusting act during a team meeting - he got his wish and was dealt to the Dallas Cowboys in 1992."

What was the disgusting act?

Killericon

04-19-2006, 09:29 PM

Good point. Hurry up and make your pick, Old Dude, I wanna make mine.

BTW, I may have both hid it and messaged it, but I want to post my own pick anyways.

Old Dude

04-19-2006, 09:38 PM

Les Richter, OLB, Rams (1954-62)

http://www.sportsecyclopedia.com/nfl/larams/RichterLA.jpg

A native of Fresno, California, Leslie Richter graduated from the University of California at Berkeley where he was valedictorian of the class of 1952.

While at Cal, Richter played a little football. As a triple threat guard, linebacker and kicker, he gathered a deluge of awards that began with the team captain and included the Andy Smith Award for most time played, membership in the All-Time All-Pacific Coast Team, East-West Shrine and College All-Star games, an MVP award, Helms Hall of Fame and won consensus All-America honors in both his Junior and Senior years from United Press, Associated Press and the International News Service. It is no surprise that he was later inducted into the College Football Hall of Fame.

Richter was the first player chosen in the regular draft of the NFL in 1952. He was picked by the New York Yankees Football Club, who moved to Texas that year to become the Dallas Texans (not to be confused with the later AFL team by the same name). But on June 13, 1952, the Rams traded 11 players to the Texans for his rights – an NFL record.

This is particularly amazing, because Richter had to fulfill a military obligation and would not even be available until 1954. He served two years as a lieutenant in the Army's 44th Infantry Division.

Even more amazing is that the deal turned out to be a steal for the Rams.
None of the 11 players traded to Dallas, so far as I can tell, made much of a mark. They aren't household names, anyhow: RB Dick Hoerner, DB Tom Keane, DB George Sims, C Joe Reid, HB Billy Baggert, T Jack Halliday, FB Dick McKissack, LB Vic Vasicek, E Richard Wilkins, C Aubrey Phillips, and RB Dave Anderson.

Les Richter played 9 seasons for the Rams. At 6'3, 238, he was a big guy for the time, and duplicated his college roles as guard, linebacker and placekicker in his first two seasons, but switched to full time OLB in 1956 as platoon football came into practice. He was named captain of the defense, and, as an outside linebacker, he was named to the pro bowl 8 times. He might have made a clean sweep of it and been one of the few players to make the pro bowl every single year of their career, but in 1962, his last season, his was switched to Center when Al Hunter was lost for the season in the third game.

Richter was subsequently elected as one of the two starting OLBs on the NFL's official team of the decade for the 1950's.

After retiring from football, Richter became heavily involved with auto racing in a variety of positions. He is currently vice-president of special projects for International Speedway Corporation, chairman of the board for the International Race of Champions, and senior vice president of operations for NASCAR.

Weird side note. In his rookie year, on a kickoff against the Baltimore Colts, Richter went after the Colt's monstrous DT, Don Joyce. He not only flattened Joyce, he hurt his feelings by making a sarcastic remark. (Supposedly, Richter had a Shannon Sharpe-like talent for spoken barb.) Joyce gave Richter a shove as he got up, and before anyone knew what happened the two were engaged in a wrestling match. Joyce jerked off Richter's helmet and hit him over the head with it. The blow sent Richter to the hospital, and fourteen stitches were required over his right eye.
The east coast press somehow decided that Richter was the "villain" in all of this, and Richter, now known as "Dirty Les" was, from then on, portrayed as one of the NFL's "black hats."

Whatever.

.

Killericon

04-19-2006, 09:41 PM

Killericon selects Ronde Barber, CB, Buccaneers.

http://espn.starwave.com/media/nfl/2002/0918/photo/s_barber_i.jpg
http://www.nfl.com.mx/imagerepository/barber_ronde.jpg

Premier cover corner and arguably the best tackler and toughest defender on one of the NFL’s best defenses… Throw-back player who prides himself on making plays against the run and pass… Tenacious worker on the practice field and in film study... Cemented his reputation as one of the NFL’s finest all-around cornerbacks by earning his second career Pro Bowl selection in 2004... Started in every game at right cornerback as a key defensive playmaker for the Super Bowl XXXVII champion Tampa Bay Buccaneers... Named to his third career All-Pro Team in 2004 (first team)... Also earned first-team honors in 2001 and second-team honors in 2002... Was named the NFL Alumni Defensive Back of the Year in 2001... Posted a career-high 10 INTs in 2001, which tied him for first in the NFL and also marked a Buccaneers single-season record... Ranks tied for fourth on the club’s all-time list with 23 interceptions... Finished with a career-high 111 tackles in 2003, setting a new Bucs single season record for most tackles by a cornerback (Jeris White, 103 in 1978)… Matched his career-high of 111 tackles in 2004 to become the first CB in team history to record consecutive 100-tackle seasons… Ranks second among all active NFL defensive backs with 18 career sacks… Posted one of the most memorable and dominating defensive performances in NFC Championship Game history, forcing a fumble, posting one sack and sealing the win at Philadelphia (1/19/03) with a 92-yard interception return for a touchdown... Has played in 113 career games with 104 starts... Ranks second to LB Derrick Brooks among active players in consecutive games played (112) and consecutive games started (87)… Also has played in eight postseason games with seven starts... Career totals include: 650 tackles, 23 INTs, seven forced fumbles, five fumble recoveries and 124 passes defensed... Has added 42 career special teams stops as well as one blocked punt... Recorded a statistic in every defensive category for the second consecutive season in 2004 and fourth time in his career… Has scored seven regular season touchdowns in his career (three interception returns, three fumble returns and one return of a deflected punt), to lead all defensive players in team history... Corralled a team single-game record three interceptions against New Orleans (12/23/01)... One of three players in club history to score on a fumble return and an interception return in the same season (also Richard Wood in 1977 and Derrick Brooks in 2002) in 2000... Has scored in three different ways in his career (fumble return, interception return and punt return), just the second player in team history to do so (also Ricky Reynolds)... Twin brother RB Tiki Barber plays for the New York Giants… Originally entered the NFL as a third-round selection by the Buccaneers in the 1997 draft. On December 11, 2005 in a game against the Carolina Panthers he became the first cornerback in the history of the NFL to record at least 20 interceptions and 20 sacks in his career.

QB - Bart Starr
RB - Marshall Faulk
FB - Mike Alstott
WR - Tim Brown
WR - Lynn Swann
TE - Dave Casper
LT - Gary Zimmerman
LG - Will Shields
C - Tom Nalen
RG -
RT - Rayfield Wright

DE - L.C. Greenwood
DT - William Perry
DT - Warren Sapp
DE - Simeon Rice
WOLB - Jim Lynch
MLB - Al Wilson
SOLB - Ray Nischke
CB - Hanford Dixon
CB - Ronde Barber
SS - Austin Gonsoulin
FS – Paul Krause

There we go....At least i have ONE hard hitter in my secondary.

JCMElway

04-19-2006, 09:45 PM

Ray Finkle is on the clock at 10:30 PM CST. Bronco LB 52, Toad, and Dipsomaniac are on deck.

-Slap-

04-19-2006, 10:06 PM

From Slap's pick:

"and performing an even more disgusting act during a team meeting - he got his wish and was dealt to the Dallas Cowboys in 1992."

What was the disgusting act?
I'm not sure. Niner beat writers at the time will still only allude to it, but I'm pretty sure it also involved bodily excretions. Haley was out of his mind. TO could have taken lessons on how to burn bridges from that guy. The difference between them is Haley was consumed with winning and TO is consumed with TO.

phisig150

04-19-2006, 10:23 PM

Revised Roster

Defense

MLB: Jack Lambert
OLB: Derrick Brooks
OLB: Joey Porter

DE: Dwight Freeney
DT: Merlin Olsen
DT: John Randle
DE: Richard Seymour

CB: Rod Woodson
CB: Mel Blount
FS: Steve Atwater
SS: John Lynch

OFFENSE

QB: ?
RB: Barry Sanders
FB: ?
WR: Marvin Harrison
WR: Isaac Bruce
TE: Jermey Shockey

LT: Willie Roaf
LG: Steve Wisienewski
C: Matt Birk
RG: Steve Hutchinson
RT: Bruce Matthews

K: Adam Vinateri
P: ?
C: ?

Killericon

04-19-2006, 11:56 PM

........

You've drafted your Kicker....and not your Quarterback?

Interesting approach.

phisig150

04-20-2006, 12:09 AM

Considering Troy Aikman, Sunny Jurgenson, Joe NamathJim Kelly, Phil Sims, Donovan McNabb, Steve McNair, Mike Vick I believe are all still on the board I think I'll be allright. There just wasn't too many kickers I was excited about.

phisig150

04-20-2006, 12:50 AM

Merlin Olsen is on the trading block. Will consider all offers preferably a top notch DE.

Ray Finkle

04-20-2006, 04:52 AM

I select
Charles Haley DE

Old Dude

04-20-2006, 05:15 AM

I select
Charles Haley DE

Sorry Ray. -Slap- took Haley in post #1086, just 4 or 5 picks ago.

You'll have to take someone else and you still have until 10:30 a.m. CST.

Old Dude

04-20-2006, 06:07 AM

With Ray Finkle still on the clock, the rest of today's lineup looks like this:

Bronco LB 52
Toad
Dipsomaniac
Mr. Trout
JCMElway
JCMElway
Mr. Trout
Dipsomaniac
Toad

-Slap-

04-20-2006, 06:40 AM

........

You've drafted your Kicker....and not your Quarterback?

Interesting approach.
Seeing as how the talent pool is every freaking player who ever lived, I don't see the problem. Nor do I see anybody second guessing some of the questionable choices you've made in this draft.

Stop acting like an http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/images/columnists/r-dave-krieger.jpg

Old Dude

04-20-2006, 08:25 AM

Updated Alphabetical List

Adderley, Herb
Allen, Eric
Allen, Larry
Allen, Marcus
Alexander, Shaun
Alstott, Mike
Alworth, Lance
Alzado, Lyle
Anderson, Dick
Arbanas, Fred
Atkins, Doug
Atwater, Steve

Bailey, Champ
Barber, Ronde
Barney, Lem
Baugh, Sammy
Bavaro, Mark
Bednarik, Chuck
Bell, Bobby
Bennett, Cornelius
Berry, Raymond
Bethea, Elvin
Bettis, Jerome
Birk, Matt
Blount, Mel
Boselli, Tony
Brady, Tom
Brazile, Robert
Brooks, Derrick
Brooks, Larry
Brown, Bob "Boomer"
Brown, Jerome
Brown, Jim
Brown, Lomas
Brown, Paul*
Brown, Roosevelt
Brown, Ruben
Brown, Tim
Brown, Willie
Browner, Joey
Bruce, Isaac
Buchanan, Buck
Bulluck, Keith
Buoniconti, Nick
Butkus, Dick

Campbell, Earl
Carmichael, Harold
Carson, Harry
Carter, Cris
Carter, Dale
Casper, Dave
Cherry, Deron
Christiansen, Jack
Coates, Ben
Creekmur, Lou
Csonka, Larry
Curtis, Mike

Davis, Terrell
Davis, Willie
Dawkins, Brian
Dawson, Dermontti
Dawson, Len
Dean, Fred
Delamielleure, Joe
Dent, Richard
Dickerson, Eric
Dierdorf, Dan
Ditka, Mike
Dixon, Hanford
Doleman, Chris
Donovan, Art
Dorsett, Tony

Easley, Kenny
Eller, Carl
Elway, John

Faneca, Alan
Faulk, Marshall
Favre, Brett
Fears, Tom
Fencik, Gary
Ford, Len
Fouts, Dan
Fralic, Bill
Freeney, Dwight
Fryar, Irving

Gastineau, Mark
Gates, Antonio
Gatski, Frank
George, Bill
Gonsoulin, William "Goose"
Gonzales, Tony
Gradishar, Randy
Graham, Otto
Grange, Red
Green, Darrell
Greene, "Mean" Joe
Greene, Kevin
Greenwood, L.C.
Gregg, Forrest
Griffith, Howard
Grimm, Russ
Guy, Ray

Haley, Charles
Ham, Jack
Hamilton, Ben
Hampton, Dan
Hanks, Merton
Hannah, John
Harris, Cliff
Harrison, Marvin
Harrison, Rodney
Hayes, Lester
Haynes, Mike
Heap, Todd
Hein, Mel
Hendricks, Ted
Hickerson, Gene
Hinton, Chris
Hirsch, Elroy "Crazy Legs"
Holt, Tory
Houston, Ken
Howley, Chuck
Huff, Sam
Humphrey, Claude
Hutchinson, Steve
Hutson, Don

Irvin, Michael

Jackson, Bo
Jackson, Rich “Tombstone”
Jackson, Ricky
Jackson, Tom
Jacoby, Joe
James, Edgerrin
Johnson, Chad
Johnson, Jimmy
Johnson, Keyshawn
Joiner, Charlie
Jones, Deacon
Jones, Ed "Too Tall"
Jones, Stan
Jones, Walter
Jordan, Henry

Karras, Alex
Kelly, Leroy
Kennedy, Cortez
Kinard, Frank "Bruiser"
Klecko, Joe
Kramer, Jerry
Krause, Paul
Kruetz, Owen
Kuechenberg, Bob
Kunz, George

Lambert, Jack
Lane, Dick "Night Train"
Langer, Jim
Lanier, Willie
Largent, Steve
Lary, Yale
Lavelli, Dante
Law, Ty
LeBeau, Dick
Lewis, Albert
Lewis, Ray
Lilly, Bob
Lipscomb, Gene "Big Daddy"
Little, Larry
Lofton, James
Long, Howie
Lott, Ronnie
Lynch, Jim
Lynch, John

Mack, Tom
Mackey, John
Manning, Peyton
Marchetti, Gino
Marino, Dan
Marshall, Jim
Marshall, Wilber
Martin, Curtis
Matthews, Bruce
Mawae, Kevin
McCormack, Mike
McDaniel, Randall
Mecklenburg, Karl
Mitchell, Bobby
Mix, Ron
Monk, Art
Montana, Joe
Moon, Warren
Moore, Herman
Moore, Lenny
Moss, Randy
Motely, Marion
Mudd, Howard
Munchak, Mike
Munoz, Anthony
Musso, George

Nagurski, Bronko
Nalen, Tom
Neal, Lorenzo
Newsome, Ozzie
Newton, Nate
Nischke, Ray
Nobis, Tommy
Nomellini, Leo

O'Neal, Leslie
Ogden, Jonathan
Olsen, Merlin
Otto, Jim
Owens, Terrell

Pace, Orlando
Page, Alan
Parker, Jim
Parrish, Lemar
Payton, Walter
Peppers, Julius
Perry, William
Pihos, Pete
Polamalu, Troy
Porter, Joey
Pryce, Trevor

Randle, John
Rathman, Tom
Reed, Andre
Reed, Ed
Renfro, Mel
Rice, Jerry
Rice Simeon
Richter, Les
Riggins, John
Ringo, Jim
Roaf, Willie
Robustelli, Andy
Romanowski, Bill

Sanders, Barry
Sanders, Bob
Sanders, Charlie
Sanders, Deion
Sapp, Warren
Sayers, Gale
Schlereth, Mark
Schmidt, Joe
Seau, Junior
Selmon, Lee Roy
Seymour, Richard
Shanahan, Mike*
Sharpe, Shannon
Sharpe, Sterling
Shaw, Billy
Shell, Art
Shell, Donnie
Shields, Will
Shockey, Jeremy
Simpson, OJ
Singletary, Mike
Siragusa, Tony
Slater, Jackie
Smith, Bubba
Smith, Bruce
Smith, Dennis
Smith, Emmitt
Smith, Jackie
Smith, Neil
Smith, Rod
Smith, Steve
St Clair, Bob
Stallworth, John
Stanfel, Dick
Starr, Bart
Staubach, Roger
Stautner, Ernie
Stenrud, Jan
Stephenson, Dwight
Stepnoski, Mark
Strahan, Michael
Stroud, Marcus
Swann, Eric
Swann, Lynn

Tarkenton, Fran
Tatum, Jack
Tatupu, Lofa
Taylor, Charley
Taylor, Jim
Taylor, Lawrence
Thomas, Derrick
Thomas, Thurman
Thomas, Zach
Thompson, Billy
Thorpe, Jim
Tippett, Andre
Tomlinson, LaDanian
Tunnell, Emlen
Turley, Kyle
Turner, Clyde "Bulldog”

Unitas, Johnny
Upshaw, Gene
Urlacher, Brian

Van Buren, Steve
Van Pelt, Brad
Vilma, Jonathan
Vinatieri, Adam

Walls, Everson
Ward, Hines
Warfield, Paul
Washington, Russ
Waters, Brian
Webb, Richmond
Webster, Mike
Wehrli, Roger
Weinmeister, Arnie
White, Randy
White, Reggie
Wilcox, Dave
Williams, Aeneas
Williams, Erik
Williams, Kevin
Wilson, Al
Wilson, Larry
Winslow, Kellen
Wisenewski, Steve
Wood, Willie
Woodson, Charles
Woodson, Darren
Woodson, Rod
Wright, Louis
Wright, Rayfield

Yary, Ron
Young, Steve
Youngblood, Jack

Zimmerman, Gary

* coaches

Ray Finkle

04-20-2006, 08:47 AM

I am a moron....I take Ken Norton....

JCMElway

04-20-2006, 08:52 AM

Bronco LB 52 is on the clock until 9:30 PM CST. Toad, Dipsomaniac, Mr. Trout, and JCM are on deck.

As always, if you're on the end of the draft order you can PM your picks to Old Dude and/or myself to keep the ball rolling.

Killericon

04-20-2006, 01:24 PM

Seeing as how the talent pool is every freaking player who ever lived, I don't see the problem. Nor do I see anybody second guessing some of the questionable choices you've made in this draft.

Stop acting like an http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/images/columnists/r-dave-krieger.jpg

!!!
I said interesting approach! I did'nt mean to hassle him!

My most sincere apoligies if it came off that I was being derogatory. I'm aware that there are still some HOF QBs on the board, and I'm actually admiring the fact that he's held off taking one this long. In terms of cold logic, it's the smartest thing one can do, it's just so hard to resist. Probably means the rest of his team is just that much stronger for it.

I mean, if you think about it, if takes his QB even one pick before people start taking their Backup QBs, he's not that far off everyone else in terms of talent.

Sorry.....

Bronco LB 59

04-20-2006, 01:52 PM

I hate this **********. I feel dirty for drafting him. I will probably make him stay after practice to run twenty 100 yd sprints and 100 up-downs.

My team selects Todd Christensen TE, BOO!

Billy Clyde Puckett

04-20-2006, 02:22 PM

I hate this corksucker. I feel dirty for drafting him. I will probably make him stay after practice to run twenty 100 yd sprints and 100 up-downs.

My team selects Todd Christensen TE, BOO!
ugh!~
:raidsux: :raidstink

Rocket 7

04-20-2006, 02:29 PM

:raidersux

Old Dude

04-20-2006, 02:30 PM

ugh!~
:raidsux: :raidstink

Ditto.

Of course, who am I to talk. I passed over Riley Odoms to take a one-eyed Chief.

Billy Clyde Puckett

04-20-2006, 02:39 PM

I just hate him almost more than any other player ever

And that was not aimed at you 52

Old Dude

04-20-2006, 02:42 PM

Toad is on the clock until like 4:00 am. or so.

Old Dude

04-21-2006, 05:07 AM

Toad's time has expired. He may make a pick at any time.

Dipsomaniac has PMd me with his pick:

Joe Fortunato LB Bears 56-66

Mr. Trout is on the clock at 6 a.m. CST.

toad

04-21-2006, 07:57 AM

Toad selects:

Herb Adderley, CB, Packers/Cowboys ('61-'71, inducted into HoF '80).

Old Dude

04-21-2006, 09:14 AM

That would be a great pick, Toad, but Adderley was taken way back in Round 6 (#85 overall).

You'll have to try again.

There's an alpha list near the top of this page ... Adderley is the first guy on it...

Old Dude

04-21-2006, 09:41 AM

Mr. Trout is still on the clock until at 6 p.m. CST.

Toad may make one pick at any time.

JCMElway is on deck with back-to-back picks, followed by Trout again. Followed then by Toad.

toad

04-21-2006, 11:38 AM

Old Dude

04-21-2006, 12:14 PM

Mr. Trout is still on the clock until 6 p.m. CST.

JCMElway is on deck with back-to-back picks, followed by Trout again. Followed then by Toad.

Mr. Trout

04-21-2006, 12:41 PM

sorry bros i just got off a 5 day drinking binge. pics will be up in a minute.

Killericon

04-21-2006, 01:39 PM

Roy Williams, S, Cowboys

I saw the alpha list and can read....simple oversight.

Good pick, I was gonna take him before I saw the Goose.

Old Dude

04-21-2006, 03:30 PM

sorry bros i just got off a 5 day drinking binge. pics will be up in a minute.

:griese:

Mr. Trout

04-21-2006, 03:32 PM

John Runyan, OT, Eagles

Old Dude

04-21-2006, 03:49 PM

JCMElway PMd me, and he will take:

Steve Tasker, ST, Buffalo Bills

and

Curley Culp, DT, NG, Houston Oilers

Career: Curley Culp was the first of a new breed of defensive tackle that anchored the 3-4 defenses of the 1970s and 1980s. Billed as a "nose tackle", "nose guard" or "middle guard", his job was simple: line up across from the center and clog the middle on running plays while supporting the pass rush on passing downs. Sounds like the perfect job description for a two-sport star from Arizona State where Culp won the NCAA heavyweight wrestling title in addition to being named to several football All-America teams.

At 6'1" and 265lbs, Culp was considered a bit too short for the defensive line and a bit too slow to play linebacker. He moved from Denver to Kansas City in search of a team that could properly utilize his unique talents. Enter Houston and a brand new approach to defense.

Bum Phillips was the defensive coordinator for Sid Gillman at the time and had convinced the head coach to try a 3-4 defense, employing three down linemen and four linebackers, eschewing the standard 4-3 fronts of the day. The Oilers acquired Culp midway through the 1974 season for troubled DT John Matuszak. Culp had signed to play in the rival World Football League for 1975, so the Chiefs thought they were unloading a problem of their own. Culp outlived the new league and then some. It was one of the best trades in Oiler history.

Culp was so strong he required two and three players to block him, opening lanes for Elvin Bethea, Gregg Bingham and Ted Washington (and soon Robert Brazile, the player Houston drafted with the first-round pick that came with Culp). Houston won seven of their remaining nine games after Curley came to Houston. As Phillips later said, "Curley made (the 3-4 defense) work. He made me look smart."

Culp's finest season came in 1975. He notched 11-1/2 sacks, an unheard of total for a defensive tackle. He won All-Pro honors and was chosen NFL Defensive Player of the Year.

The nose tackle position would become notorious for shortening careers. As linemen attacked Curley from every angle, injuries and age began to take their toll. Midway through the 1980 season, Culp was released and claimed by Detroit, where he stayed an additional season, closing out his 14-year NFL career.

So great was his impact that the Sporting News named Culp to the All-Century teams of both the Kansas City and Houston/Tennessee franchises. Or, more to the point, as voiced by Hall-Of-Famer, and former teammate, Jim Otto, "Curley Culp was perhaps the strongest man I ever lined up against."

Houston Highlight: In a September, 1975 game against the San Diego Chargers, Culp scooped up a Charger fumble and rumbled 38 yards. Even though teammate Elvin Bethea yelled that Curley was going the wrong way, he managed to find the right end zone for the only points of his NFL career. The score helped Houston beat San Diego, 33-17, and secured the Oilers' first 2-0 start since 1966. The team would finish the 1975 season 10-4.

Old Dude

04-21-2006, 03:50 PM

Mr. Trout is on the clock again.

JCMElway

04-21-2006, 10:02 PM

Mr. Trout is on the clock until 11 AM CST on Saturday. Dipsomaniac, Toad, and Bronco LB 52 are on deck.

Mr. Trout

04-21-2006, 10:31 PM

Jamal Williams, DT, San Diego Chargers. thanks

JCMElway

04-21-2006, 10:40 PM

Dipsomaniac is on the clock until 11:30 AM CST. Toad, Bronco LB 52, and Ray Finkle are on deck.

-Slap-

04-22-2006, 12:20 AM

Rocket 7

04-22-2006, 12:27 AM

Roger Brown DT Lions 60-66 Rams 67-69

JCMElway

04-22-2006, 12:47 AM

Excellent picks, Old Dude. I had both of those gentlemen in my queue.

Thanks for the praise Slap, but those picks were mine, not the Dude's! :thumbs:

JCMElway

04-22-2006, 12:53 AM

Toad is on the clock until 1:30 PM CST. Bronco LB 52, Ray Finkle and Killericon are on deck. Hooray for night owls!!!!

-Slap-

04-22-2006, 01:16 AM

Thanks for the praise Slap, but those picks were mine, not the Dude's! :thumbs:
Oh, I missed the part about the PM. Nice job.

Clockwork Orange

04-22-2006, 01:18 AM

Toad is on the clock until 1:30 PM CST.Hooray for night owls!!!!

We're the salt of the earth I tell ya. ;D

JCMElway

04-22-2006, 01:33 AM

We're the salt of the earth I tell ya. ;D

We sure are. However, **yawn**, I think bed doth beckon.

As Jim Rome would say, "Good night Now!"

Killericon

04-22-2006, 05:39 AM

I'm at work all day(Hence why I'm up at this ungodly hour) so here's my next pick:
|Tiki Barber, RB, Giants|

Again, sorry if it came off that I was passing judgement on phisig.....I was'nt.

Ray Finkle

04-22-2006, 06:27 AM

I will put my pick in now.....I take Sam Adams DT.....

Old Dude

04-22-2006, 07:44 AM

Toad is on the clock until 1:30 PM CST. Bronco LB 52, Ray Finkle and Killericon are on deck. Hooray for night owls!!!!

Bump

(and Finkle and Killericon have submitted hidden picks)

JCMElway

04-22-2006, 11:24 AM

Old Dude

04-22-2006, 12:26 PM

Clock work, Slap, and Big Guy please be ready with Picks around 1:30. Finkle, KIcon, and Phibacka all have picks that are hidden or PMed. And I'm assuming OD will be around.

Clockwork should be on the clock around 1:35 PM CST.

Toad's time expires in about ten minutes. But then Bronco LB 52 goes on the clock. He was on line earlier, but I don't have anything for him at the moment.

Once he gets his pick in, then the picks for Finkle, Killericon, myself and Phibacka should come in rapid order. But we might have to wait quite awhile for it.

JCMElway

04-22-2006, 12:38 PM

Bronco LB 52 is on the clock at 1:30 PM CST.

Toad may make a selection at any time.

Finkle and Icon have hidden picks, and Phibacka has PMed me his. (Old Dude I'll get these to you.) Clockwork may get a pick in today if B LB 52 comes back.

Bronco LB 59

04-22-2006, 01:40 PM

My team selects Broadway Joe Namath QB, New York J-E-T-S.

http://images.google.com/url?q=http://www.photofile.com/Photos/Albums/Whats_Hot_Page/Legends_Album/images/NFL/Joe_Namath_jpg.jpg

Old Dude

04-22-2006, 01:41 PM

Cool! And a great pick, too!

I can now fill in the next several picks.

Old Dude

04-22-2006, 01:44 PM

Ray Finkle hid his pick, which was Sam Adams, DT.

http://media.scout.com/Media/Image/19/190088.jpg

Killericon hid his pick, which was Tiki Barber, RB.

http://images.sportsnetwork.com/football/nfl/allsport/giants/tiki/barber_tiki14.jpg

Old Dude

04-22-2006, 01:46 PM

The Old Dudes will take another old dude:

http://www.nfl.com.mx/imagerepository/Lou_Groza_pateando.jpg

Lou Groza, PK/OT Browns, 1946-59; 61-67

Groza was an outstanding offensive tackle who was also the finest kicker of his era and the first true kicking specialist. A starting tackle at Ohio State for two years, he joined the Cleveland Browns of the new All-America Football Conference in 1946 after military service in World War II.

Used primarily as a kicker in his rookie year, Groza led the league in scoring with 45 extra points and 13 field goals for a total of 84 points. He became Cleveland's starting tackle during the 1947 season and held the position until 1959.

The AAFC folded in 1950 and the Browns entered the NFL. They won the league championship that season when Groza, on Christmas Eve, kicked a field goal with 28 seconds remaining to beat the Los Angeles Rams 30-28 in the title game.

Groza was an All-Pro tackle from 1951 through 1955 and in 1957. He led the NFL in field goals with 13 in 1950, 19 in 1952, 23 in 1953, 16 in 1954, and 15 in 1957. In 1954, he was named NFL Player of the Year. He was the league's leading scorer with 77 points in 1955.

A back injury forced Groza to miss the entire 1960 season, but he came back in 1961 as a kicker and played through 1967. In 21 seasons, all with the Browns, he converted 810 of 834 extra point attempts and 264 of 481 field goal attempts for a total of 1,608 points, a record at the time.

As a pro, Groza won an amazing eight championships, four in the AAFC (1946-1949) and four in the NFL (1950, 1954-1955, 1964). That puts Lou in an elite group of athletes that includes Bill Russell, Joe DiMaggio, and Maurice Richard as the greatest winners in professional team sports history.

The Lou Groza award is given to the best collegiate place kicker.

“He preached to all the players, ‘When a kid asks you for an autograph, you better give it to him. If not, I’ll make you do it.’” – teammate Jimmy Ray Smith

Groza rounds out TSN's list of the 100 greatest NFL players of the 20th Century.

In 1974, Lou, "The Toe" was enshrined in the Pro Football Hall of Fame.

Rocket 7

04-22-2006, 02:06 PM

My team selects Broadway Joe Namath QB, New York J-E-T-S.
He's kind of mod and very hip / with lots of heart and lots of lip / a swingin' ladies man who has a ball. / He's a hero, he's a pro / He's a Mr. Something Else, our Broadway Joe. / He's a groovy, super guy / he can pass a football through a needle's eye. / 1,2,3,hut, go, go, go / No one else can throw a ball like Broadway Joe.

Old Dude

04-22-2006, 04:01 PM

He's kind of mod and very hip / with lots of heart and lots of lip / a swingin' ladies man who has a ball. / He's a hero, he's a pro / He's a Mr. Something Else, our Broadway Joe. / He's a groovy, super guy / he can pass a football through a needle's eye. / 1,2,3,hut, go, go, go / No one else can throw a ball like Broadway Joe.

Odds & Ends about Broadway Joe:

When Joe was growing up in Beaver Falls, Pa., seven Namaths shared one bathroom. It was in the basement behind the coal burner. Joe had three older brothers and an adopted sister.

As a kid, Namath kept a picture of Johnny Unitas over his bed.

In his first season as a Jet, home attendance increased by more than 12,000 per game.

On Sept. 24, 1972, Namath and Unitas combined to pass for a record 872 yards. Namath threw for a career-high 496 yards and six touchdowns in the Jets' 44-34 victory over Baltimore.

Namath was on President Richard Nixon's "enemies list." He was the only athlete on it.

Memorable quotes:

"I'd rather go to Vietnam than get married."

"I don't know whether I prefer Astroturf to grass. I never smoked Astroturf."

"When we won the league championship, all the married guys on the club had to thank their wives for putting up with all the stress and strain all season. I had to thank all the single broads in New York."

Billy Clyde Puckett

04-22-2006, 04:06 PM

Joe lived in Savanah for a while. I was there with my wife about 15 years ago and we walked by his place and he was sitting on his porch, drinking and talking to everyone that walked by. He was very friendly, not obnoxious, but funny. Probably talked to us for 15 minutes.

Old Dude

04-22-2006, 11:17 PM

Updated Alphabetical List

Adams, Sam
Adderley, Herb
Allen, Eric
Allen, Larry
Allen, Marcus
Alexander, Shaun
Alstott, Mike
Alworth, Lance
Alzado, Lyle
Anderson, Dick
Arbanas, Fred
Atkins, Doug
Atwater, Steve

Bailey, Champ
Barber, Ronde
Barber, Tiki
Barney, Lem
Baugh, Sammy
Bavaro, Mark
Bednarik, Chuck
Bell, Bobby
Bennett, Cornelius
Berry, Raymond
Bethea, Elvin
Bettis, Jerome
Birk, Matt
Blount, Mel
Boselli, Tony
Brady, Tom
Brazile, Robert
Brooks, Derrick
Brooks, Larry
Brown, Bob "Boomer"
Brown, Jerome
Brown, Jim
Brown, Lomas
Brown, Paul*
Brown, Roger
Brown, Roosevelt
Brown, Ruben
Brown, Tim
Brown, Willie
Browner, Joey
Bruce, Isaac
Buchanan, Buck
Bulluck, Keith
Buoniconti, Nick
Butkus, Dick

Campbell, Earl
Carmichael, Harold
Carson, Harry
Carter, Cris
Carter, Dale
Casper, Dave
Cherry, Deron
Christiansen, Jack
Christiansen, Todd
Coates, Ben
Creekmur, Lou
Csonka, Larry
Culp. Curley
Curtis, Mike

Davis, Terrell
Davis, Willie
Dawkins, Brian
Dawson, Dermontti
Dawson, Len
Dean, Fred
Delamielleure, Joe
Dent, Richard
Dickerson, Eric
Dierdorf, Dan
Ditka, Mike
Dixon, Hanford
Doleman, Chris
Donovan, Art
Dorsett, Tony

Easley, Kenny
Eller, Carl
Elway, John

Faneca, Alan
Faulk, Marshall
Favre, Brett
Fears, Tom
Fencik, Gary
Ford, Len
Fortunato, Joe
Fouts, Dan
Fralic, Bill
Freeney, Dwight
Fryar, Irving

Gastineau, Mark
Gates, Antonio
Gatski, Frank
George, Bill
Gonsoulin, William "Goose"
Gonzales, Tony
Gradishar, Randy
Graham, Otto
Grange, Red
Green, Darrell
Greene, "Mean" Joe
Greene, Kevin
Greenwood, L.C.
Gregg, Forrest
Griffith, Howard
Grimm, Russ
Groza, Lou
Guy, Ray

Haley, Charles
Ham, Jack
Hamilton, Ben
Hampton, Dan
Hanks, Merton
Hannah, John
Harris, Cliff
Harrison, Marvin
Harrison, Rodney
Hayes, Lester
Haynes, Mike
Heap, Todd
Hein, Mel
Hendricks, Ted
Hickerson, Gene
Hinton, Chris
Hirsch, Elroy "Crazy Legs"
Holt, Tory
Houston, Ken
Howley, Chuck
Huff, Sam
Humphrey, Claude
Hutchinson, Steve
Hutson, Don

Irvin, Michael

Jackson, Bo
Jackson, Rich “Tombstone”
Jackson, Ricky
Jackson, Tom
Jacoby, Joe
James, Edgerrin
Johnson, Chad
Johnson, Jimmy
Johnson, Keyshawn
Joiner, Charlie
Jones, Deacon
Jones, Ed "Too Tall"
Jones, Stan
Jones, Walter
Jordan, Henry

Karras, Alex
Kelly, Leroy
Kennedy, Cortez
Kinard, Frank "Bruiser"
Klecko, Joe
Kramer, Jerry
Krause, Paul
Kruetz, Owen
Kuechenberg, Bob
Kunz, George

Lambert, Jack
Lane, Dick "Night Train"
Langer, Jim
Lanier, Willie
Largent, Steve
Lary, Yale
Lavelli, Dante
Law, Ty
LeBeau, Dick
Lewis, Albert
Lewis, Ray
Lilly, Bob
Lipscomb, Gene "Big Daddy"
Little, Larry
Lofton, James
Long, Howie
Lott, Ronnie
Lynch, Jim
Lynch, John

Mack, Tom
Mackey, John
Manning, Peyton
Marchetti, Gino
Marino, Dan
Marshall, Jim
Marshall, Wilber
Martin, Curtis
Matthews, Bruce
Mawae, Kevin
McCormack, Mike
McDaniel, Randall
Mecklenburg, Karl
Mitchell, Bobby
Mix, Ron
Monk, Art
Montana, Joe
Moon, Warren
Moore, Herman
Moore, Lenny
Moss, Randy
Motely, Marion
Mudd, Howard
Munchak, Mike
Munoz, Anthony
Musso, George

Nagurski, Bronko
Nalen, Tom
Namath, Joe
Neal, Lorenzo
Newsome, Ozzie
Newton, Nate
Nischke, Ray
Nobis, Tommy
Nomellini, Leo
Norton, Ken

O'Neal, Leslie
Ogden, Jonathan
Olsen, Merlin
Otto, Jim
Owens, Terrell

Pace, Orlando
Page, Alan
Parker, Jim
Parrish, Lemar
Payton, Walter
Peppers, Julius
Perry, William
Pihos, Pete
Polamalu, Troy
Porter, Joey
Pryce, Trevor

Randle, John
Rathman, Tom
Reed, Andre
Reed, Ed
Renfro, Mel
Rice, Jerry
Rice Simeon
Richter, Les
Riggins, John
Ringo, Jim
Roaf, Willie
Robustelli, Andy
Romanowski, Bill
Runyon, John

Sanders, Barry
Sanders, Bob
Sanders, Charlie
Sanders, Deion
Sapp, Warren
Sayers, Gale
Schlereth, Mark
Schmidt, Joe
Seau, Junior
Selmon, Lee Roy
Seymour, Richard
Shanahan, Mike*
Sharpe, Shannon
Sharpe, Sterling
Shaw, Billy
Shell, Art
Shell, Donnie
Shields, Will
Shockey, Jeremy
Simpson, OJ
Singletary, Mike
Siragusa, Tony
Slater, Jackie
Smith, Bubba
Smith, Bruce
Smith, Dennis
Smith, Emmitt
Smith, Jackie
Smith, Neil
Smith, Rod
Smith, Steve
St Clair, Bob
Stallworth, John
Stanfel, Dick
Starr, Bart
Staubach, Roger
Stautner, Ernie
Stenrud, Jan
Stephenson, Dwight
Stepnoski, Mark
Strahan, Michael
Strong, Mack
Stroud, Marcus
Swann, Eric
Swann, Lynn

Tarkenton, Fran
Tasker, Steve
Tatum, Jack
Tatupu, Lofa
Taylor, Charley
Taylor, Jim
Taylor, Lawrence
Thomas, Derrick
Thomas, Thurman
Thomas, Zach
Thompson, Billy
Thorpe, Jim
Tippett, Andre
Tomlinson, LaDanian
Tunnell, Emlen
Turley, Kyle
Turner, Clyde "Bulldog”

Unitas, Johnny
Upshaw, Gene
Urlacher, Brian

Van Buren, Steve
Van Pelt, Brad
Vilma, Jonathan
Vinatieri, Adam

Walls, Everson
Ward, Hines
Warfield, Paul
Washington, Russ
Waters, Brian
Webb, Richmond
Webster, Mike
Wehrli, Roger
Weinmeister, Arnie
White, Randy
White, Reggie
Wilcox, Dave
Williams, Aeneas
Williams, Erik
Williams, Jamal
Williams, Kevin
Williams, Roy
Wilson, Al
Wilson, Larry
Winslow, Kellen
Wisenewski, Steve
Wood, Willie
Woodson, Charles
Woodson, Darren
Woodson, Rod
Wright, Louis
Wright, Rayfield

Yary, Ron
Young, Steve
Youngblood, Jack

Zimmerman, Gary

* coaches

ludo21

04-22-2006, 11:40 PM

no love for Zimm?

Clockwork Orange

04-23-2006, 12:03 AM

The Sacrelegends select John Henderson, DT Jaguars

http://slam.canoe.ca/Slam/Football/NFL/2004/09/19/broncosjaguars.jpg

QB: Warren Moon
RB: LaDanian Tomlinson
FB: Tom Rathman
WR: Randy Moss
WR: Art Monk
TE: Todd Heap
OT: Jackie Slater
OG: Russ Grimm
C: Mike Webster
OG: Nate Newton
OT: Erik Williams

DE: Reggie White
DT: Art Donovan
DT: John Henderson
DE: Jack Youngblood

LB: Harry Carson
LB: Zach Thomas
LB: Wilber Marshall

CB: Charles Woodson
CB: Eric Allen
FS: Darren Woodson
SS: Rodney Harrison

K:
P:

Coach:

JCMElway

04-23-2006, 01:05 AM

Slap is on the clock until 12 Noon CST. Big Guy, Eddie Mac, and Phisig are on deck.

Old Dude

04-23-2006, 01:18 AM

-Slap- PMd me with his pick:

Rick Upchurch, WR/Return Specialist, Broncos, 1975-83

http://www.rickupchurch.com/running.jpg

Big Guy is on the clock until 2:15 P.M. Sunday.

Billy Clyde Puckett

04-23-2006, 10:11 AM

Sorry to take so long guys.

The Old Farts know how valuable each roster spot is selects a rare guy who was all pro at two positions and will probably play both of those positions for the team.

Linebacker and Place Kicker - Wayne Walker

Walker was drafted in the fourth round out of Idaho by the Lions in 1958 and promptly proved his mettle. The rookie linebacker returned both an interception and fumble for touchdowns that season and established himself as one of the young stars in the NFL.

Walker's career as both a linebacker and place-kicker reads like a "Who's Who" in Lions' history. No Lion has played in more seasons that Walker's 15 seasons from 1958-1972. His record of having played in 200 Lions' games will be equaled Sunday by Detroit place-kicker Jason Hanson, now in his 13th Detroit season.

The former Idaho prep and collegiate star who turned broadcaster after his NFL career ended was a three-time Pro Bowl (1964-66) selection and was Detroit's defensive Most Valuable Player in 1968. He was Detroit's leading scoring in 1962, 1964 and 1965. He concluded his 15-season career the second all-time Lions' scorer with 345 points, ranking only behind Pro Football Hall of Famer Doak Walker (534). He now ranks seventh in all-time Lions' scoring behind sixth-place Herman Moore (376) and ahead of eighth-place Billy Sims (282).

Billy Clyde Puckett

04-23-2006, 10:14 AM

JCMElway

04-23-2006, 10:14 AM

Eddie Mac is on the clock until 10:00 PM CST. Phisig, BMF Bronco, and Arkie are on deck.

JCMElway

04-23-2006, 10:19 AM

Hey all, I was just thinking this morning that it may be difficult to PM picks to me or Old Dude for the fear that the person you're PMing will take interest in any list of players that you value highly. In effect, we'll know your draft strategy.

SO, If you PM us with a list, please send players one at a time. If you put in the title "My # 1 option" and "#2 option", then we'll know it's a pick for you and we won't open it until we're listing your pick. It's also better then sending us a whole list of players, because we won't see 4 or 5 guys you value.

This should keep your cards, "close to your vest" and allow us to keep the draft moving at a steady clip.

Thanks!

JCM

Killericon

04-23-2006, 02:55 PM

QB - Bart Starr
RB - Marshall Faulk, Tiki Barber
FB - Mike Alstott
WR - Tim Brown
WR - Lynn Swann
TE - Dave Casper
LT - Gary Zimmerman
LG - Will Shields
C - Tom Nalen
RG -
RT - Rayfield Wright

DE - L.C. Greenwood
DT - William Perry
DT - Warren Sapp
DE - Simeon Rice
WOLB - Jim Lynch
MLB - Al Wilson
SOLB - Ray Nischke
CB - Hanford Dixon
CB - Ronde Barber
SS - Austin Gonsoulin
FS – Paul Krause

Did I need another Running Back? Well, I wanted an all-purpose back, yes, but more importantly, I wanted both the Barber Twins!

Only one more Starting posistion to fill before my starting line-up is complete.

BTW, Joe Namath was an awesome pick.

toad

04-23-2006, 03:53 PM

As much as I hate to drop out of something midway through, is there anyone wanting/willing to take my team over?

I just don't have the time to keep up....I can do a quick web check during the day at work but that's about it. The wife, child, new house, and golf habit pretty much occupy the rest of my time.

And, to some degree, I've lost interest too. It was cool the first dozen or so rounds but, quite honestly, after drafting essentially a full starting off/def roster my head/hearts just not into it like it was.

If nobody wants it I'll stay on and try to get caught up when I can but, for sake of fairness to everyone else, it would probably be best for me, the players I've drafted thus far, and others participating to give it up.

The team, thus far, is as follows:

QB - Steve Young
RB - John Riggins, Shaun Alexander
WR - John Stallworth, Hines Ward, Keyshawn Johnson
TE - Tony Gonzales
T - Art Shell, Ron Yary
G - Billy Shaw, ?
C - Clyde "Bulldog" Turner
DE - Julius Peppers, Trevor Pryce
DT - Henry Jordan, Tony Siragusa
LB - Dave Wilcox, Mike Singletary, Jonathan Vilma
CB - Ty Law, Ronnie Lott
S - Roy Williams

?

JCMElway

04-23-2006, 04:18 PM

That's great Toad. Thanks for being up front. Youcandoit is dying to take over a team. So I'll have him jump in for you!

Youcandoit may make a selection at any time.

Killericon

04-23-2006, 04:22 PM

You'll be missed Toad.

Though it'll be nice to have some fresh meat...he seemed really, REALLY eager to hop in.

toad

04-23-2006, 04:26 PM

That's great Toad. Thanks for being up front. Youcandoit is dying to take over a team. So I'll have him jump in for you!

Youcandoit may make a selection at any time.

You'll be missed Toad.

Though it'll be nice to have some fresh meat...he seemed really, REALLY eager to hop in.

Thanks for understanding guys. I've been making picks rounds behind for the past 2 weeks and its really not fair for everyone else involved.

I'll still keep track of "my" team and see how Youcandoit pulls us through...it will be joint effort overall, but the reins are all his now.

Make my proud, Youcandoit, make me proud!

Be good -
toad

eddie mac

04-23-2006, 04:33 PM

Eddie Mac selects Frank Minnifield CB Cleveland Browns, 4-time Pro-Bowler, NFL 1980's decade team

THE FIGHTING IRISH

QB Joe Montana
RB Gale Sayers
FB Bronko Nagurski
WR Lance Alworth
WR Raymond Berry
TE Ben Coates
OT Walter Jones
OT Lomas Brown
OG Tom Mack
OG Bill Fralic
OC Frank Gatski

DE Lee Roy Selmon
DE Richard Dent
NT Arnie Weinmeister
LB Kevin Greene
LB Bill George
LB Nick Buoniconti
LB Cornelius Bennett
CB Deion Sanders
S Willie Wood
S Yale Lary
CB Frank Minnifield
K
P
KR/PR Deion Sanders

youcandoit1687

04-23-2006, 04:52 PM

IM IN FOR TOAD!!! woo hoo. thanks for the spot toad u seem to have made a pretty good team so far

with the pick that toad missed im going to pick

HB Doak Walker, a three-time All-America and the 1948 Heisman Trophy winner while at Southern Methodist, brought glowing credentials to pro football when he joined the Detroit Lions in 1950. Yet many National Football League scouts honestly felt that, at 5-11 and 173 pounds, Doak was too small. They predicted the "big boys" of the NFL would simply overwhelm him.
Walker quickly erased any doubt that he belonged in the NFL. In 1950, he was All-NFL, the Rookie of the Year, the league-scoring champion, and a Pro Bowl participant. The honors kept coming for him.
When Doak wound up his six-season career after the 1955 campaign, he had been named All-NFL five times and selected to five Pro Bowls. It’s no coincidence that, during the his six-year career, the Lions enjoyed their finest years ever with three divisional titles and NFL championship victories over the Cleveland Browns in 1952 and 1953.
Doak was a do-everything contributor for the Lions. His career chart shows entries in every possible statistical category – rushing, passing, receiving, punt and kickoff returns, punting, place-kicking and even interceptions. Because he did so many things, his career figures are not overly impressive except in the scoring column, where he scored 534 points and won two NFL scoring titles. Walker had a knack of making the big plays in the most important games.
In 1952, he returned from an injury-enforced layoff to throw a 24-yard touchdown pass to Leon Hart in the divisional showdown against the Los Angeles Rams. In the NFL title game a week later, Doak rushed for 97 yards, and his 67-yard jaunt proved to be the winning tally in a 17-7 victory. A year later, in the NFL championship, Walker scored the game's first touchdown and then kicked the winning point in a 17-16 triumph over the Browns.

QB - Steve Young
RB – Doak Walker, Shaun Alexanderffice
FB/HB – John Riggins
WR - John Stallworth, Hines Ward, Keyshawn Johnson
TE - Tony Gonzales
T - Art Shell, Ron Yary
G - Billy Shaw,
C - Clyde "Bulldog" Turner
DE - Julius Peppers, Trevor Pryce
DT - Henry Jordan, Tony Siragusa
LB - Dave Wilcox, Mike Singletary, Jonathan Vilma
CB - Ty Law,
S - Roy Williams, Ronnie Lott

thanks for letting me in all, i look forward to finishing this thing up in style

phisig150

04-23-2006, 08:53 PM

Phisig selects Donovan McNabb.

JCMElway

04-23-2006, 10:16 PM

Excelent stuff from the last three picks. Damn you Youcandoit, you stole a guy I was targeting!

At any rate, BMF Bronco is on the clock at 11 PM CST. Arkie, BMF Bronco, Phisig and EddieMac are on deck.

JCMElway

04-24-2006, 12:28 AM

Here are updated depth charts for all. Please contact me if any corrections need to be made.

JCM

1. Arkie, Duke's Team
Qb - John Elway
Rb - Eric Dickerson
Fb - Howard Griffith
Wr - Steve Largent
Wr - James Lofton
Te - Mike Ditka
T - Larry Allen
G - Ruben Brown
C - Jim Otto
G- George Kunz
T - Chris Hinton

De - Chris Doleman
Dt - Alan Page
Dt - Dan Hampton
De - Leslie O'Neal
Wolb -
Mlb - Willie Lanier
Solb - Ricky Jackson
Cb - Mel Renfro
Cb - Lester Hayes
Ss - Donnie Shell
Fs - Larry Wilson

2. BMF Bronco
QB: Tom Brady, Lenny Dawson
RB: Walter Payton, Edgerrin James
FB:
WR: Rod Smith, Terrel Owens
WR: Dante Lavelli
TE: Ozzie Newsome
OT: Dan Dierdorf
OG: Kevin Mawae, Dick Stanfel
C:
OG: Howard Mudd
OT: Kyle Turley

DE: Michael Strahan
DT:
DT:
DE: Lyle Alzado
OLB: Karl Mecklenburg
MLB: Brian Urlacher
OLB: Bill Romanowski
CB: Willie Brown
FS: Deron Cherry
SS:
CB:

P:
K: Jan Stenerud

Coach:

3. Phisig Revised Roster
qb- Donovan McNabb
rb- Barry Sanders
fb-
wr- Marvin Harrison
wr- Isaac Bruce
te- Jeremy Shockey
t- Willie Roaf
g- Steve Wisenewski
c- Matt Birk
g- Steve Hutchinson
t- Bruce Matthews

cb- Rod Woodson
cb- Mel Blount
fs- Steve Atwater
ss- John Lynch
olb- Joey Porter
mlb- Jack Lambert
olb- Derrick Brooks
de- Dwight Freeney
dt- Merlin Olsen
dt- John Randle, Richard Seymour
de-

k- Adam Vinateri
p-
kr-

hc-

4. Eddie Mac
QB Joe Montana
RB Gale Sayers
FB Bronko Nagurski
WR Lance Alworth
WR Raymond Berry
OT Walter Jones
OT Lomas Brown
OG Tom Mack
OG Bill Fralic
OC Frank Gatski

DE Lee Roy Selmon
DE Richard Dent
NT Arnie Weinmeister
LB Bill George
LB Kevin Greene
LB Cornelius Bennett
LB NICK BUONICONTI
CB Deion Sanders
CB Fran Minnefield
S Willie Wood
S Yale Lary

K
P
KR/PR Deion Sanders

5. THE OLD FARTS

QB - Roger Staubach
RB - OJ Simpson, Jim Taylor
FB -
WR - Paul Warfield
WR - Harold Carmichael
TE - John Mackey
T - Bob St Clair
G -Joe Delamielleure
C - Jim Ringo
G- Jerry Kramer
T - Stan Jones

DE - Bubba Smith
DT - Alex Karras, Jim Marshall
DT - Randy White
DE - Ed Too Tall Jones
WOLB - Brad Van Pelt
MLB - Joe Schmidt
SOLB - Wayne Walker
CB - Lem Barney
CB - Dick Anderson
SS - Dick LeBeau
FS -

6. The KnockYerDickintheDirts
QB - Johnny Unitas
RB - Earl Campbell, Curtis Martin
FB -
LT - Bob Brown
LG - John Hannah
C - Olin Kruetz
RG -
RT - Russ Washington
TE - Shannon Sharpe
WR - Lenny Moore
WR - Torry Holt

LDE - Doug Atkins
LDT - Gene "Big Daddy" Lipscomb
RDT - Buck Buchanan
RDE - Charles Haley
SLB - Jack Ham
MLB - Randy Gradishar
WLB - Andre Tippett
FS - Brian Dawkins
SS - Dennis Smith
CB - Aeneas Williams
CB - Lemar Parrish

K -
P -
PR - Rick Upchurch

7. Sacrelegends
QB: Warren Moon
RB: LaDanian Tomlinson
FB: Tom Rathman
WR: Randy Moss
WR: Art Monk
TE: Todd Heap
OT: Jackie Slater
OG: Russ Grimm
C: Mike Webster
OG: Nate Newton
OT: Erik Williams

DE: Reggie White
DT: Art Donovan
DT:John Henderson
DE: Jack Youngblood

LB: Harry Carson
LB: Zach Thomas
LB: Wilber Marshall

CB: Charles Woodson
CB: Eric Allen
FS: Darren Woodson
SS: Rodney Harrison

K:
P:

Coach:

8. theDave/Phibacka31
QB: Dan Marino
RB: Jerome Bettis, Thurman Thomas
FB: Mack Strong
WR: Sterling Sharpe
WR: Michael Irvin
TE: Kellen Winslow
OT: Jonathan Ogden
OG: Ben Hamilton
C:
OG:Brian Waters
OT: Tony Boselli

DE: Neil Smith
DT: Cortez Kennedy
DT:
DE: Bruce Smith, Claude Humphrey
OLB: Derrick Thomas
MLB: Lofa Tatupu
OLB:
CB: Champ Bailey
FS: Gary Fencik
SS: Bob Sanders
CB:

Coach: Mike Shannahan

9. Old Dude
9. Old Dude
QB: Sammy Baugh
RB: Jim Brown, Marion Motely
WR: Don Hutson, Bobby Mitchell
TE: Fred Arbanas
T: Anthony Munoz, Roosevelt Brown, Lou Groza
G: Gene Upshaw, Gene Hickerson
C: Mel Hein

DT: Bob Lilly, Ernie Stautner
DE: Gino Marchetti, Len Ford
MLB: Tommy Nobis
OLB: Chuck Howley, Lee Richter
FS: Cliff Harris
SS: Emlen Tunnell
CB: Red Grange

P: Sammy Baugh
K: -
C:- Paul Brown

10. Killericon
QB - Bart Starr
RB - Marshall Faulk, Tiki Barber
FB - Mike Alstott
WR - Tim Brown
WR - Lynn Swann
TE - Dave Casper
LT - Gary Zimmerman
LG - Will Shields
C - Tom Nalen
RG -
RT - Rayfield Wright

DE - L.C. Greenwood
DT - William Perry
DT - Warren Sapp
DE - Simeon Rice
WOLB - Jim Lynch
MLB - Al Wilson
SOLB - Ray Nischke
CB - Hanford Dixon
CB - Ronde Barber
SS - Austin Gonsoulin
FS – Paul Krause

11. Ray Finkle

QB --Brett Favre
RB - Marcus Allen
WR - Tom Fears, Pete Pihos
TE - Mark Bavaro
OT - Orlando Pace Mike McCormack
OG - Jim Parker
C - Dermontti Dawson
OG - Mark Schlereth
OT - Mike McCormack

DE - Eric Swann
DT - Jerome Brown
DT - Sam Adams
DE - Andy Robustelli
OLB - Lawrence Taylor
MLB - Junior Seau
OLB - Ken Norton
CB - Mike Haynes
FS - Merton Hanks
SS - Jack Christiansen
CB - Dale Carter
P - Ray Guy
K -

12. Bronco LB 52
QB: Peyton Manning, Joe Namath
RB: Bo Jackson, LeRoy Kelly
FB:
WR: Jerry Rice
WR: Charley Taylor
TE: Todd Christensen
OT: Frank "Bruiser" Kinnard
OG: Larry Little
C:
OG: Bob Kuechenberg
OT: Ron Mix

DE: Elvin Bethea
DT: Joe Greene
DT: Larry Brooks
DE: Fread Dean
OLBL Ted Hendricks
MLB: Sam Huff
OLB: Robert Brazile
CB: Herb Adderly
FS: Billy Thompson
SS: Ed Reed
CB: Albert Lewis

P:
K:

Coach:

Toad/Youcandoit
QB - Steve Young
RB – Shaun Alexander, Doak Walker
FB/HB – John Riggins
WR - John Stallworth
WR - Hines Ward, Keyshawn Johnson
TE - Tony Gonzales
T - Art Shell
G - Billy Shaw
C - Clyde "Bulldog" Turner
G -
T - Ron Yary
DE - Julius Peppers
DT - Henry Jordan
DT - Tony Siragusa
DE - Trevor Pryce
OLB - Dave Wilcox
MLB - Mike Singletary
OLB - Jonathan Vilma
CB - Ty Law
FS - Roy Williams
SS - Ronnie Lott
CB -

14. Dipsomaniac
QB- Otto Graham
RB- Terrell Davis, Steve Van Buren
FB- Lorenzo Neal, Joe Fortunato
WR- Cris Carter
WR- Herman Moore
TE- Jackie Smith
T- Joe Jacoby
G- Randall McDaniel
C- Dwight Stephenson
G-
T-

DE- Rich "Tombstone" Jackson
DT- Roger Brown
DT-
DE- Leo "The Lion" Nomellini, Mark Gasteneau
OLB- Mike Curtis
MLB- Ray Lewis
OLB-
CB- Jimmy Johnson
CB- Roger Wehrli
SS- Ken Houston
FS- Kenny "Easley like Sunday Morning"

15. Trout
QB: Francis Tarkenton
RB: Tony Dorsett
FB: Larry Csonka
WR: Andre Reed, Steve Smith
WR: Irving Fryar
TE: Antonio Gates
OT: Richmond Webb
OG: Mike Munchak
C: Mark Stepnoski
OG: Alan Faneca
OT: Jon Runyan

DE: Deacon Jones
DT: Jamal Williams
DT: Kevin Williams
DE: Howie Long
OLB: Bobby Bell
MLB: Jack Tatum
OLB: Keith Bullock
CB: Darrell Green
FS:
SS: Troy Polamalu
CB: Louis Wright

P:
K:

Coach:
16. Those Cheap Bastards
QB: Dan Fouts
RB: E Smith
FB:
WR: "Crazy Legs" Hirsch
WR: Charlie Joiner
TE: Charlie Freaking Sanders
OT: Forrest Gregg
OG: George Musso :
C: Bob Langer
OG: Lou Creekmur
OT:
DE: Willie Davis
DT: Joe Klecko
DT: Curley Culp
DE: Carl Eller
OLB: Chuck Bednarik
MLB: Dick Butkus
OLB: Tom Jackson
CB: Dick Night Train Lane
S: Jim Thorpe
S: Joey Browner
CB: Everson Walls

ST: Steve Tasker

P:

BMF Bronco

04-24-2006, 07:46 AM

Fullback Cory Schlessinger

Old Dude

04-24-2006, 07:55 AM

Arkie is now on the clock with two picks (until 9:00 P.M. CST), and BMF Bronco is on deck, followed by Phisig and Eddie Mac.

Old Dude

04-24-2006, 11:26 AM

Updated Alphabetical List

Adams, Sam
Adderley, Herb
Allen, Eric
Allen, Larry
Allen, Marcus
Alexander, Shaun
Alstott, Mike
Alworth, Lance
Alzado, Lyle
Anderson, Dick
Arbanas, Fred
Atkins, Doug
Atwater, Steve

Bailey, Champ
Barber, Ronde
Barber, Tiki
Barney, Lem
Baugh, Sammy
Bavaro, Mark
Bednarik, Chuck
Bell, Bobby
Bennett, Cornelius
Berry, Raymond
Bethea, Elvin
Bettis, Jerome
Birk, Matt
Blount, Mel
Boselli, Tony
Brady, Tom
Brazile, Robert
Brooks, Derrick
Brooks, Larry
Brown, Bob "Boomer"
Brown, Jerome
Brown, Jim
Brown, Lomas
Brown, Paul*
Brown, Roger
Brown, Roosevelt
Brown, Ruben
Brown, Tim
Brown, Willie
Browner, Joey
Bruce, Isaac
Buchanan, Buck
Bulluck, Keith
Buoniconti, Nick
Butkus, Dick

Campbell, Earl
Carmichael, Harold
Carson, Harry
Carter, Cris
Carter, Dale
Casper, Dave
Cherry, Deron
Christiansen, Jack
Christiansen, Todd
Coates, Ben
Creekmur, Lou
Csonka, Larry
Culp. Curley
Curtis, Mike

Davis, Terrell
Davis, Willie
Dawkins, Brian
Dawson, Dermontti
Dawson, Len
Dean, Fred
Delamielleure, Joe
Dent, Richard
Dickerson, Eric
Dierdorf, Dan
Ditka, Mike
Dixon, Hanford
Doleman, Chris
Donovan, Art
Dorsett, Tony

Easley, Kenny
Eller, Carl
Elway, John

Faneca, Alan
Faulk, Marshall
Favre, Brett
Fears, Tom
Fencik, Gary
Ford, Len
Fortunato, Joe
Fouts, Dan
Fralic, Bill
Freeney, Dwight
Fryar, Irving

Gastineau, Mark
Gates, Antonio
Gatski, Frank
George, Bill
Gonsoulin, William "Goose"
Gonzales, Tony
Gradishar, Randy
Graham, Otto
Grange, Red
Green, Darrell
Greene, "Mean" Joe
Greene, Kevin
Greenwood, L.C.
Gregg, Forrest
Griffith, Howard
Grimm, Russ
Groza, Lou
Guy, Ray

Haley, Charles
Ham, Jack
Hamilton, Ben
Hampton, Dan
Hanks, Merton
Hannah, John
Harris, Cliff
Harrison, Marvin
Harrison, Rodney
Hayes, Lester
Haynes, Mike
Heap, Todd
Hein, Mel
Henderson, John
Hendricks, Ted
Hickerson, Gene
Hinton, Chris
Hirsch, Elroy "Crazy Legs"
Holt, Tory
Houston, Ken
Howley, Chuck
Huff, Sam
Humphrey, Claude
Hutchinson, Steve
Hutson, Don

Irvin, Michael

Jackson, Bo
Jackson, Rich “Tombstone”
Jackson, Ricky
Jackson, Tom
Jacoby, Joe
James, Edgerrin
Johnson, Chad
Johnson, Jimmy
Johnson, Keyshawn
Joiner, Charlie
Jones, Deacon
Jones, Ed "Too Tall"
Jones, Stan
Jones, Walter
Jordan, Henry

Karras, Alex
Kelly, Leroy
Kennedy, Cortez
Kinard, Frank "Bruiser"
Klecko, Joe
Kramer, Jerry
Krause, Paul
Kruetz, Owen
Kuechenberg, Bob
Kunz, George

Lambert, Jack
Lane, Dick "Night Train"
Langer, Jim
Lanier, Willie
Largent, Steve
Lary, Yale
Lavelli, Dante
Law, Ty
LeBeau, Dick
Lewis, Albert
Lewis, Ray
Lilly, Bob
Lipscomb, Gene "Big Daddy"
Little, Larry
Lofton, James
Long, Howie
Lott, Ronnie
Lynch, Jim
Lynch, John

Mack, Tom
Mackey, John
Manning, Peyton
Marchetti, Gino
Marino, Dan
Marshall, Jim
Marshall, Wilber
Martin, Curtis
Matthews, Bruce
Mawae, Kevin
McCormack, Mike
McDaniel, Randall
McNabb, Donovan
Mecklenburg, Karl
Minnifield, Frank
Mitchell, Bobby
Mix, Ron
Monk, Art
Montana, Joe
Moon, Warren
Moore, Herman
Moore, Lenny
Moss, Randy
Motely, Marion
Mudd, Howard
Munchak, Mike
Munoz, Anthony
Musso, George

Nagurski, Bronko
Nalen, Tom
Namath, Joe
Neal, Lorenzo
Newsome, Ozzie
Newton, Nate
Nischke, Ray
Nobis, Tommy
Nomellini, Leo
Norton, Ken

O'Neal, Leslie
Ogden, Jonathan
Olsen, Merlin
Otto, Jim
Owens, Terrell

Pace, Orlando
Page, Alan
Parker, Jim
Parrish, Lemar
Payton, Walter
Peppers, Julius
Perry, William
Pihos, Pete
Polamalu, Troy
Porter, Joey
Pryce, Trevor

Randle, John
Rathman, Tom
Reed, Andre
Reed, Ed
Renfro, Mel
Rice, Jerry
Rice Simeon
Richter, Les
Riggins, John
Ringo, Jim
Roaf, Willie
Robustelli, Andy
Romanowski, Bill
Runyon, John

Sanders, Barry
Sanders, Bob
Sanders, Charlie
Sanders, Deion
Sapp, Warren
Sayers, Gale
Schlereth, Mark
Schlessinger, Cory
Schmidt, Joe
Seau, Junior
Selmon, Lee Roy
Seymour, Richard
Shanahan, Mike*
Sharpe, Shannon
Sharpe, Sterling
Shaw, Billy
Shell, Art
Shell, Donnie
Shields, Will
Shockey, Jeremy
Simpson, OJ
Singletary, Mike
Siragusa, Tony
Slater, Jackie
Smith, Bubba
Smith, Bruce
Smith, Dennis
Smith, Emmitt
Smith, Jackie
Smith, Neil
Smith, Rod
Smith, Steve
St Clair, Bob
Stallworth, John
Stanfel, Dick
Starr, Bart
Staubach, Roger
Stautner, Ernie
Stenrud, Jan
Stephenson, Dwight
Stepnoski, Mark
Strahan, Michael
Strong, Mack
Stroud, Marcus
Swann, Eric
Swann, Lynn

Tarkenton, Fran
Tasker, Steve
Tatum, Jack
Tatupu, Lofa
Taylor, Charley
Taylor, Jim
Taylor, Lawrence
Thomas, Derrick
Thomas, Thurman
Thomas, Zach
Thompson, Billy
Thorpe, Jim
Tippett, Andre
Tomlinson, LaDanian
Tunnell, Emlen
Turley, Kyle
Turner, Clyde "Bulldog”

Unitas, Johnny
Upchurch, Rick
Upshaw, Gene
Urlacher, Brian

Van Buren, Steve
Van Pelt, Brad
Vilma, Jonathan
Vinatieri, Adam

Walker, Doak
Walker, Wayne
Walls, Everson
Ward, Hines
Warfield, Paul
Washington, Russ
Waters, Brian
Webb, Richmond
Webster, Mike
Wehrli, Roger
Weinmeister, Arnie
White, Randy
White, Reggie
Wilcox, Dave
Williams, Aeneas
Williams, Erik
Williams, Jamal
Williams, Kevin
Williams, Roy
Wilson, Al
Wilson, Larry
Winslow, Kellen
Wisenewski, Steve
Wood, Willie
Woodson, Charles
Woodson, Darren
Woodson, Rod
Wright, Louis
Wright, Rayfield

Yary, Ron
Young, Steve
Youngblood, Jack

Zimmerman, Gary

* coaches

JCMElway

04-24-2006, 02:12 PM

Hey all, just to keep everyone updated, Dick Anderson is playing Safety for the Old Farts, not CB.

JCM

Old Dude

04-24-2006, 02:17 PM

Hey all, just to keep everyone updated, Dick Anderson is playing Safety for the Old Farts, not CB.

JCM

And, FWIW, Lou Groza is my starting placekicker.

Arkie

04-24-2006, 03:39 PM

We select...

Greg Lloyd, OLB, Steelers/Panthers, 1988-98
http://www.mcmillenandwife.com/pics/lloyd_young.jpg
Five Pro Bowls.
Two Steelers Team MVP awards.
The ''Nastiest Man in Pro Football''http://www.mcmillenandwife.com/lloyd_frown_small.jpg
He hated QBs and got numerous fines for playing too rough. I like the time he promised to knock out Marino and he did. Marino was motionless for 1 minute and didn't play for two weeks.:~ohyah!:

and we select...
Mark Clayton, WR, Dolphins/Packers, 1983-93
Five Pro Bowls.
13th all-time - Receiving TDs
Dan Marino's favorite target.
At one point in time, the Marino-Clayton tandem was the most prolific in NFL history. His 1984 single season record of 18 touchdown catches was broken in 1987 by Jerry Rice and is still an AFC record and tied for the second highest total in NFL history.
http://www.onlinesports.com/images/phf-aaec030.jpg

Arkie

04-24-2006, 03:42 PM

The Duke's Dream Team

Starters:

QB John Elway
RB Eric Dickerson
FB Howard Griffith
WR Steve Largent, Mark Clayton
WR James Lofton
TE Mike Ditka
LT Chris Hinton
LG Ruben Brown
C Jim Otto
RG Larry Allen
RT George Kunz

LDE Leslie O'Neal
LDT Dan Hampton
RDT Alan Page
RDE Chris Doleman
SLB Ricky Jackson
MLB Willie Lanier
WLB Greg Lloyd
CB Mel Renfro
CB Lester Hayes
SS Donnie Shell
FS Larry Wilson

Old Dude

04-24-2006, 03:46 PM

BMF Bronco previously PMd me to select Adam Archuleta, S, Rams, 2001-2005, who signed with the Skins for 2006.

http://www.ramsrevenge.com/files/images/adam-archuleta-breaks-up-pass.jpg

Old Dude

04-24-2006, 03:47 PM

Phisig is on the clock until 4:45 a.m., CST, followed by Eddie Mac and Big Guy.

phisig150

04-24-2006, 06:55 PM

Jimmy Smith WR Jags

phisig150

04-24-2006, 07:03 PM

Trade Proposal for Phibacka31. Sorry couldn't find your name for pm. Olsen and Porter for Bruce Smith and your next pick. The offer is also on the table for Reggie White or Michael Strahan

eddie mac

04-24-2006, 07:13 PM

Eddie Mac selects Fred Biletnikoff WR Oakland Raiders 65-78

Fred Biletnikoff, a 6-1, 190-pounder with excellent hands and deceptive speed, caught 589 passes for 8,974 yards and 76 touchdowns during his 14-year career with the Oakland Raiders from 1965 through 1978. At the time of his retirement, Fred not only dominated the Raiders' record book for pass receiving but he owned several significant NFL marks as well. Along with another Hall of Fame receiver, Raymond Berry, Fred held the record for having caught 40 or more passes in 10 consecutive seasons. His 70 receptions, 1,167 yards receiving and 10 touchdowns in 19 post-season games were also NFL post-season career records.

The talented pass-catcher came to the Raiders as their No. 2 draft pick in 1965. A 1964 All-America at Florida State, Biletnikoff caught four touchdown passes in his team's Gator Bowl victory over Oklahoma. He also played in the College All-Star game before reporting to the Raiders' training camp. Biletnikoff started as a special teams player and did not see action as a flanker until the seventh game of his rookie campaign.

When he did get a chance to start, he responded with a seven-catch, 118-yard performance and, in the process, became a regular for good. A durable, dependable performer, Biletnikoff missed only eight games because of injury in 14 seasons. Biletnikoff, a native of Erie, PA, reached the zenith of a career filled with outstanding achievements when he caught four passes for 79 yards to set up three Oakland scores in the Raiders’ 32-14 victory in Super Bowl XI. He was named the game's Most Valuable Player.

Fred was an All-AFL pick in that league's final 1969 season, earned All-Pro honors in 1972, and won All-AFC acclaim in 1970, 1972 and 1973. He played in two AFL All-Star games and four AFC-NFC Pro Bowl games as well as three AFL and five AFC championship games, plus Super Bowls II and XI.

The Fighting Irish

QB Joe Montana
RB Gale Sayers
FB Bronko Nagurski
WR Lance Alworth, Fred Biletnikoff
WR Raymond Berry
OT Walter Jones
OT Lomas Brown
OG Tom Mack
OG Bill Fralic
OC Frank Gatski

DE Lee Roy Selmon
DE Richard Dent
NT Arnie Weinmeister
LB Bill George
LB Kevin Greene
LB Cornelius Bennett
LB NICK BUONICONTI
CB Deion Sanders
CB Fran Minnefield
S Willie Wood
S Yale Lary

K
P
KR/PR Deion Sanders

Billy Clyde Puckett

04-24-2006, 07:28 PM

I saw my next pick play in person when he was in college. I never saw Elway, Unitas, Staubach personally in college but I did see Montana and a couple of other big names. This guy was the best college QB I ever saw. He was a machine - never made a mistake.

With the shortage of roster spots, another player that can fill multiple needs is a bonus. Bet most here don't remember this guy was also one of the best punters in the country and his team's place kicker. He may end up being the Old Farts punter.

Due to his style and demeanor, the Old Farts select the perfect backup for Roger Staubach - Bob Griese.

BOB GRIESE

HOF Class of 1990

Quarterback >>> 6-1, 190

(Purdue)

1967-1980 Miami Dolphins

Robert Allen Griese. . .All-America at Purdue. . .No. 1 draft pick, 1967. . .Poised leader of classic ball-control offense. . . Led Miami to three AFC titles, Super Bowl VII, VIII wins. . . NFL Player of the Year, 1971. . .All-Pro twice, All-AFC three times. . .Played in two AFL All-Star games, six AFC-NFC Pro Bowls. . .Career Stats: 25,092 yards, 192 TDs, 77.1 rating passing; 994 yards, 7 TDs rushing. . .Born February 3, 1945, in Evansville, Indiana.

Q&A with Bob Griese

Dolphins in the
Hall of Fame

Bob Griese, a two-time All-America at Purdue, was the Dolphins' No. 1 draft choice in their second year in 1967. He enjoyed an excellent rookie season with 2,005 yards and 15 touchdowns passing and, for the remainder of his Hall of Fame career, he was the poised leader of a classic ball-control offense that generated an awesomely efficient running attack, three AFC championships in 1971, 1972 and 1973 and victories in Super Bowls VII and VIII.

In the 1970s, the 6-1, 190-pound quarterback led the Dolphins to nine winning seasons. In several of his finest performances, Griese used the pass only sparingly. But when the defenses clogged up the Miami runners, Bob quickly and efficiently opened things up with his accurate aerials.

In Super Bowl VII, for instance, only 11 of Miami's 50 scrimmage plays were passes but Bob's eight completions accounted for one touchdown and set up the second. In Super Bowl VIII, the rush-pass ratio for Miami was a startling 53-7 with Griese completing six of his seven passes. The Dolphins won easily. In 14 seasons, Griese threw 3,429 passes, completing 1,926 for 25,092 yards, 192 touchdowns for a 77.1 career passing rating. He also rushed 261 times for 994 yards and seven touchdowns.

Honors came frequently for Griese. A six-time Dolphins MVP, he was named All-Pro in 1971 and 1977, and All-AFC four times (1970, 1971, 1973, and 1977). He played in two AFL All-Star games and six AFC-NFC Pro Bowls. His success came in spite of numerous injuries that constantly plagued him. During Miami's perfect 1972 season, Bob missed eight games but returned in time to lead his team to wins in both the AFC title game and Super Bowl VII.

Billy Clyde Puckett

04-24-2006, 07:29 PM

THE OLD FARTS

QB - Roger Staubach, Bob Griese(also Punter)
RB - OJ Simpson, Jim Taylor
FB -
WR - Paul Warfield
WR - Harold Carmichael
TE - John Mackey
T - Bob St Clair
G -Joe Delamielleure
C - Jim Ringo
G- Jerry Kramer
T - Stan Jones

DE - Bubba Smith
DT - Alex Karras, Jim Marshall
DT - Randy White
DE - Ed Too Tall Jones
WOLB - Brad Van Pelt
MLB - Joe Schmidt
SOLB - Wayne Walker - Will also be PK
CB - Lem Barney
CB -
SS - Dick LeBeau
FS - Dick Anderson

Old Dude

04-24-2006, 08:10 PM

-Slap- is on the clock until 8:30 a.m. CST Clockwork Orange, and Phibacka are on deck. (And Phibacka has a trade proposal from Phisig).

JCMElway

04-24-2006, 10:36 PM

Ah. I got it. Phisig is also offering this trade to Clockwork or BMF Bronco.

Trade Proposal for Phibacka31. Sorry couldn't find your name for pm. Olsen and Porter for Bruce Smith and your next pick. The offer is also on the table for Reggie White or Michael Strahan.

If this trade is accepted, please indicate at what point in the draft Phibacka/BMF/Clockwork would pick up the draft pick they're giving up this round. (This would either be one of Phisigs later picks, or the trade accepter would draft Mr. irrelevant at the end of the draft.)

Clockwork Orange

04-24-2006, 10:45 PM

Thanks for the offer, but I'll pass.

-Slap-

04-25-2006, 02:08 AM

Joe Gibbs Head Coach Washington 1981-1992, 2004-Current.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/sports/images/redskins/book/pg_175.jpg

Three Champions with three different quarterbacks, none of whom were great and only one that was even better than average. Third best winning percentage in NFL history. Returned to the sidelines after a 12 year hiatus and a won a playoff game in his second year back. Member of the NFL Hall of Fame and owner of a successful racing team.

I need someone who can handle all the strong personalities on this team and Joe has proven himself by getting the best out of talented but difficult individuals like John Riggins and Dexter Manley. Winning Super Bowls with the likes of Doug Williams and Mark Rypien are also notable accomplishments. Joe has never been reluctant to mete out fair punishment to star athletes, quickly suspending Sean Taylor after his arrest on gun charges. He also backs up his assistants when they want to do something extreme, like when DC Gregg Williams decided to bench a million dollar All Pro like LeVar Arrington this season. That freedom doesn't exist in every organization, especially one owned by a ten pound tyrant like Danny Snyder. Not unless the man in charge is firmly respected by all.

+--------------+----------+
| Reg. Season | Playoffs |
+----------+--------------+----------+
| Year TM | W L T | W L |
+----------+--------------+----------+
| 1981 was | 8 8 0 | 0 0 |
| 1982 was | 8 1 0 | 4 0 |
| 1983 was | 14 2 0 | 2 1 |
| 1984 was | 11 5 0 | 0 1 |
| 1985 was | 10 6 0 | 0 0 |
| 1986 was | 12 4 0 | 2 1 |
| 1987 was | 11 4 0 | 3 0 |
| 1988 was | 7 9 0 | 0 0 |
| 1989 was | 10 6 0 | 0 0 |
| 1990 was | 10 6 0 | 1 1 |
| 1991 was | 14 2 0 | 3 0 |
| 1992 was | 9 7 0 | 1 1 |
| 2004 was | 6 10 0 | 0 0 |
| 2005 was | 10 6 0 | 1 1 |
+----------+--------------+----------+
| TOTALS | 140 76 0 | 17 6 |
+----------+--------------+----------+

http://www.voccoquan.com/images/joe%20gibbs%20soaked.jpg

Johnny Unitas
Earl Campbell
Shannon Sharpe
John Hannah
Randy Gradishar
Jack Ham
Doug Atkins
Lenny Moore
Torry Holt
Dennis Smith
Buck Buchanan
Brian Dawkins
Bob "Boomer" Brown
Aeneas Williams
Russ Washington
Gene "Big Daddy" Lipscomb
Andre Tippett
Olin Kruetz
Lemar Parrish
Curtis Martin
Charles Haley
Rick Upchurch
Joe Gibbs

The KnockYerDickintheDirts
QB - Johnny Unitas
RB - Earl Campbell - Curtis Martin
FB -
LT - Bob Brown
LG - John Hannah
C - Olin Kruetz
RG -
RT - Russ Washington
TE - Shannon Sharpe
WR - Lenny Moore
WR - Torry Holt

LDE - Doug Atkins
LDT - Gene "Big Daddy" Lipscomb
RDT - Buck Buchanan
RDE - Charles Haley
SLB - Jack Ham
MLB - Randy Gradishar
WLB - Andre Tippett
FS - Brian Dawkins
SS - Dennis Smith
CB - Aeneas Williams
CB - Lemar Parrish

K -
P -
RS - Rick Upchurch

HC - Joe Gibbs

Old Dude

04-25-2006, 04:55 AM

Clockwork Orange is on the clock until 3:15 p.m.

Phibacka and Old Dude are on deck.

Clockwork Orange

04-25-2006, 11:52 AM

The Sacrelegends select Jason Elam, K Broncos.

http://www.profootballhof.com/assets/default/Elam_T20_Feb21.jpg

QB: Warren Moon
RB: LaDanian Tomlinson
FB: Tom Rathman
WR: Randy Moss
WR: Art Monk
TE: Todd Heap
OT: Jackie Slater
OG: Russ Grimm
C: Mike Webster
OG: Nate Newton
OT: Erik Williams

DE: Reggie White
DT: Art Donovan
DT: John Henderson
DE: Jack Youngblood

LB: Harry Carson
LB: Zach Thomas
LB: Wilber Marshall

CB: Charles Woodson
CB: Eric Allen
FS: Darren Woodson
SS: Rodney Harrison

K: Jason Elam
P:

Coach:

Old Dude

04-25-2006, 12:36 PM

Pursuant to the list he PMd , Phibacka selects Chris McCalister, CB, Ravens (1999-present), Pro Bowler 2003-2004 (giving him Bailey and McCalister at the Corners.)

http://www.sportsecyclopedia.com/nfl/baltrav/mcalisterBal.jpg

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The Old Dudes can’t resist the chance to supplement their receiving corps with a third Hall-of-Famer, Don Maynard, WR, Giants, Jets, Cardinals (1958, 1960-73).

http://www.billdaniels.com/donmaynardgla.jpg

At the time of his retirement, Maynard was the all-time pro leader in receptions and yards. If there had been an FFL league in the 60’s he would have been a top pick every year: 50 times he broke the 100 yard mark, and in 3 games, he broke the 200 yard mark. At the time of his retirement, his 88 career receiving TDs were second only to Don Hutson’s 99.

------------------------------------------------

Killericon, pursuant to a PM, selects Hall of Fame Guard Mike Michalske, Yankees, Packers, (1926-35; 1937).

http://www.sportsecyclopedia.com/nfl/gb/MichalskeGB.jpg

For 11 years, he was pro football's premier guard; a position many insist was the toughest job of all in the 1920s and 1930s.

In high school and at Penn State, where he was an All-America pick in 1925, he played fullback, guard, end, and tackle. “Iron Mike” first turned pro with the new American Football League in 1926 but that league folded after one year.

When his New York Yankees NFL team disbanded two seasons later, Michalske promptly signed with the Packers, where he remained for eight highly successful seasons, both for him and his team. The Packers won NFL titles in 1929, 1930, and 1931, and Michalske was named All-NFL in 1929, 1930, 1931, 1934, and 1935.
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Ray Finkle is now on the clock until 1:30 a.m. Wednesday, and Bronco LB 52 is on deck.

Old Dude

04-25-2006, 01:48 PM

Updated Alphabetical List

Adams, Sam
Adderley, Herb
Allen, Eric
Allen, Larry
Allen, Marcus
Alexander, Shaun
Alstott, Mike
Alworth, Lance
Alzado, Lyle
Anderson, Dick
Arbanas, Fred
Archuleta, Adam
Atkins, Doug
Atwater, Steve

Bailey, Champ
Barber, Ronde
Barber, Tiki
Barney, Lem
Baugh, Sammy
Bavaro, Mark
Bednarik, Chuck
Bell, Bobby
Bennett, Cornelius
Berry, Raymond
Bethea, Elvin
Bettis, Jerome
Biletnikoff, Fred
Birk, Matt
Blount, Mel
Boselli, Tony
Brady, Tom
Brazile, Robert
Brooks, Derrick
Brooks, Larry
Brown, Bob "Boomer"
Brown, Jerome
Brown, Jim
Brown, Lomas
Brown, Paul*
Brown, Roger
Brown, Roosevelt
Brown, Ruben
Brown, Tim
Brown, Willie
Browner, Joey
Bruce, Isaac
Buchanan, Buck
Bulluck, Keith
Buoniconti, Nick
Butkus, Dick

Campbell, Earl
Carmichael, Harold
Carson, Harry
Carter, Cris
Carter, Dale
Casper, Dave
Cherry, Deron
Christiansen, Jack
Christiansen, Todd
Clayton, Mark
Coates, Ben
Creekmur, Lou
Csonka, Larry
Culp. Curley
Curtis, Mike

Davis, Terrell
Davis, Willie
Dawkins, Brian
Dawson, Dermontti
Dawson, Len
Dean, Fred
Delamielleure, Joe
Dent, Richard
Dickerson, Eric
Dierdorf, Dan
Ditka, Mike
Dixon, Hanford
Doleman, Chris
Donovan, Art
Dorsett, Tony

Easley, Kenny
Elam, Jason
Eller, Carl
Elway, John

Faneca, Alan
Faulk, Marshall
Favre, Brett
Fears, Tom
Fencik, Gary
Ford, Len
Fortunato, Joe
Fouts, Dan
Fralic, Bill
Freeney, Dwight
Fryar, Irving

Gastineau, Mark
Gates, Antonio
Gatski, Frank
George, Bill
Gibbs, Joe*
Gonsoulin, William "Goose"
Gonzales, Tony
Gradishar, Randy
Graham, Otto
Grange, Red
Green, Darrell
Greene, "Mean" Joe
Greene, Kevin
Greenwood, L.C.
Gregg, Forrest
Griese, Bob
Griffith, Howard
Grimm, Russ
Groza, Lou
Guy, Ray

Haley, Charles
Ham, Jack
Hamilton, Ben
Hampton, Dan
Hanks, Merton
Hannah, John
Harris, Cliff
Harrison, Marvin
Harrison, Rodney
Hayes, Lester
Haynes, Mike
Heap, Todd
Hein, Mel
Henderson, John
Hendricks, Ted
Hickerson, Gene
Hinton, Chris
Hirsch, Elroy "Crazy Legs"
Holt, Tory
Houston, Ken
Howley, Chuck
Huff, Sam
Humphrey, Claude
Hutchinson, Steve
Hutson, Don

Irvin, Michael

Jackson, Bo
Jackson, Rich “Tombstone”
Jackson, Ricky
Jackson, Tom
Jacoby, Joe
James, Edgerrin
Johnson, Chad
Johnson, Jimmy
Johnson, Keyshawn
Joiner, Charlie
Jones, Deacon
Jones, Ed "Too Tall"
Jones, Stan
Jones, Walter
Jordan, Henry

Karras, Alex
Kelly, Leroy
Kennedy, Cortez
Kinard, Frank "Bruiser"
Klecko, Joe
Kramer, Jerry
Krause, Paul
Kruetz, Owen
Kuechenberg, Bob
Kunz, George

Lambert, Jack
Lane, Dick "Night Train"
Langer, Jim
Lanier, Willie
Largent, Steve
Lary, Yale
Lavelli, Dante
Law, Ty
LeBeau, Dick
Lewis, Albert
Lewis, Ray
Lilly, Bob
Lipscomb, Gene "Big Daddy"
Little, Larry
Lloyd, Greg
Lofton, James
Long, Howie
Lott, Ronnie
Lynch, Jim
Lynch, John

Mack, Tom
Mackey, John
Manning, Peyton
Marchetti, Gino
Marino, Dan
Marshall, Jim
Marshall, Wilber
Martin, Curtis
Matthews, Bruce
Mawae, Kevin
Maynard, Don
McCalister, Chris
McCormack, Mike
McDaniel, Randall
McNabb, Donovan
Mecklenburg, Karl
Michalske, Mike
Minnifield, Frank
Mitchell, Bobby
Mix, Ron
Monk, Art
Montana, Joe
Moon, Warren
Moore, Herman
Moore, Lenny
Moss, Randy
Motely, Marion
Mudd, Howard
Munchak, Mike
Munoz, Anthony
Musso, George

Nagurski, Bronko
Nalen, Tom
Namath, Joe
Neal, Lorenzo
Newsome, Ozzie
Newton, Nate
Nischke, Ray
Nobis, Tommy
Nomellini, Leo
Norton, Ken

O'Neal, Leslie
Ogden, Jonathan
Olsen, Merlin
Otto, Jim
Owens, Terrell

Pace, Orlando
Page, Alan
Parker, Jim
Parrish, Lemar
Payton, Walter
Peppers, Julius
Perry, William
Pihos, Pete
Polamalu, Troy
Porter, Joey
Pryce, Trevor

Randle, John
Rathman, Tom
Reed, Andre
Reed, Ed
Renfro, Mel
Rice, Jerry
Rice Simeon
Richter, Les
Riggins, John
Ringo, Jim
Roaf, Willie
Robustelli, Andy
Romanowski, Bill
Runyon, John

Sanders, Barry
Sanders, Bob
Sanders, Charlie
Sanders, Deion
Sapp, Warren
Sayers, Gale
Schlereth, Mark
Schlessinger, Cory
Schmidt, Joe
Seau, Junior
Selmon, Lee Roy
Seymour, Richard
Shanahan, Mike*
Sharpe, Shannon
Sharpe, Sterling
Shaw, Billy
Shell, Art
Shell, Donnie
Shields, Will
Shockey, Jeremy
Simpson, OJ
Singletary, Mike
Siragusa, Tony
Slater, Jackie
Smith, Bubba
Smith, Bruce
Smith, Dennis
Smith, Emmitt
Smith, Jackie
Smith, Jimmy
Smith, Neil
Smith, Rod
Smith, Steve
St Clair, Bob
Stallworth, John
Stanfel, Dick
Starr, Bart
Staubach, Roger
Stautner, Ernie
Stenrud, Jan
Stephenson, Dwight
Stepnoski, Mark
Strahan, Michael
Strong, Mack
Stroud, Marcus
Swann, Eric
Swann, Lynn

Tarkenton, Fran
Tasker, Steve
Tatum, Jack
Tatupu, Lofa
Taylor, Charley
Taylor, Jim
Taylor, Lawrence
Thomas, Derrick
Thomas, Thurman
Thomas, Zach
Thompson, Billy
Thorpe, Jim
Tippett, Andre
Tomlinson, LaDanian
Tunnell, Emlen
Turley, Kyle
Turner, Clyde "Bulldog”

Unitas, Johnny
Upchurch, Rick
Upshaw, Gene
Urlacher, Brian

Van Buren, Steve
Van Pelt, Brad
Vilma, Jonathan
Vinatieri, Adam

Walker, Doak
Walker, Wayne
Walls, Everson
Ward, Hines
Warfield, Paul
Washington, Russ
Waters, Brian
Webb, Richmond
Webster, Mike
Wehrli, Roger
Weinmeister, Arnie
White, Randy
White, Reggie
Wilcox, Dave
Williams, Aeneas
Williams, Erik
Williams, Jamal
Williams, Kevin
Williams, Roy
Wilson, Al
Wilson, Larry
Winslow, Kellen
Wisenewski, Steve
Wood, Willie
Woodson, Charles
Woodson, Darren
Woodson, Rod
Wright, Louis
Wright, Rayfield

Yary, Ron
Young, Steve
Youngblood, Jack

Zimmerman, Gary

* coaches

JCMElway

04-25-2006, 02:10 PM

Ray Finkle is now on the clock until 1:30 a.m. Wednesday, and Bronco LB 52 is on deck.

Bump

Ray Finkle

04-25-2006, 02:25 PM

Ray Finkle is now on the clock until 1:30 a.m. Wednesday, and Bronco LB 52 is on deck.

Bump

I take Bill Parcells for my head coach.

Bronco LB 59

04-25-2006, 02:48 PM

My team selects Tommy McDonald WR, Philadelphia

Old Dude

04-25-2006, 02:51 PM

My team selects Tommy McDonald WR, Philadelphia

Yet another Hall-of-Famer WR goes this round!

Youcandoit is on the clock until 3:45 a.m. CST.

On deck:

Dipsomaniac
Mr. Trout
JCMElway

Killericon

04-25-2006, 06:49 PM

QB - Bart Starr
RB - Marshall Faulk, Tiki Barber
FB - Mike Alstott
WR - Tim Brown
WR - Lynn Swann
TE - Dave Casper
LT - Gary Zimmerman
LG - Will Shields
C - Tom Nalen
RG - Mike Michalske
RT - Rayfield Wright

DE - L.C. Greenwood
DT - William Perry
DT - Warren Sapp
DE - Simeon Rice
WOLB - Jim Lynch
MLB - Al Wilson
SOLB - Ray Nischke
CB - Hanford Dixon
CB - Ronde Barber
SS - Austin Gonsoulin
FS – Paul Krause

Rounding out my Offensive line with a Hall of Famer.

-Slap-

04-25-2006, 07:15 PM

Good looking team, Killer. Especially the O line.

Old Dude

04-26-2006, 04:53 AM

Time has expired for Youcandoit. He can make up his pick at any time,

Dipsomaniac is now on the clock until 6 p.m. CST.

On Deck:

Mr. Trout
JCMElway
JCMElway
Mr. Trout
Dipsomaniac

Rocket 7

04-26-2006, 08:56 AM

I select Bruce Armstrong OL Patriots 1987-2000

Rocket 7

04-26-2006, 10:29 AM

So far

Head Coach- Don Shula

QB- Otto Graham
RB- Terrell Davis, Steve Van Buren
FB- Lorenzo Neal
WR- Cris Carter
WR- Chad Johnson, Herman Moore
TE- Jackie Smith
T- Joe Jacoby
G- Randall McDaniel
C- Dwight Stephenson
G-
T- Bruce Armstrong

DE- Rich "Tombstone" Jackson
DT- Roger Brown
DT- Leo "The Lion" Nomellini
DE- Mark Gastineau
OLB- Mike Curtis
MLB- Ray Lewis
OLB- Joe Fortunato
CB- Jimmy Johnson
CB- Roger Wehrli
SS- Ken Houston
FS- Kenny "Easley like Sunday Morning"

Mr. Trout

04-26-2006, 11:17 AM

I will take my coach at this point......Hank Stram......"Let's keep matriculating down the field boys"

Class of 2003
Coach
(Purdue)
1960-1974 Dallas Texans/Kansas City Chiefs, 1976-1977 New Orleans Saints

Henry Louis Stram. . .Overall record: 136-100-10. . .Assistant coach at University of Miami when hired as first head coach of Dallas Texans, (Texans moved to Kansas City, renamed Chiefs, 1963) of new American Football League, 1960. . .Won 1962, 1966, 1969 AFL championships. . .Led Chiefs to two Super Bowl appearances. . .Devised "two tight end offense" and "stack defense". . .Named AFL Coach of the Year in 1968…Born January 3, 1923 at Chicago, Illinois. . .Died July 4, 2005, at age of 82.

http://www.profootballhof.com/assets/hof/mug1353.jpg

Mr. Trout

04-26-2006, 11:41 AM

Jack Tatum is a safety, for my team. So whoever needs to change that...Thanks.

JCMElway

04-26-2006, 11:58 AM

Jack Tatum is a safety, for my team. So whoever needs to change that...Thanks.

Got it. That will be updated w/the next depth chart update.

Old Dude

04-26-2006, 12:03 PM

JCMElway is on the clock with two picks.

On deck:

Mr. Trout
Dipsomaniac
Youcandoit
Bronco LB 52

Youcandoit may also make one pick at any time.

JCMElway

04-26-2006, 12:31 PM

With the 23rd selection in the All Time Draft Those Cheap Bastards select:

Lionel Taylor, WR, Denver Broncos.

For the first six years of existence of the American Football League, one man led the league in receptions each year: Lionel Taylor from New Mexico Highlands University, where he had starred in basketball and track, and made all-conference wide receiver in 1956 and 1957. Taylor is second in all-time receptions (543) for the Denver Broncos, and is their all-time leading receiver in yardage (6,872). Taylor was the Broncos' team Most Valuable Player in 1963, 1964 and 1965, and an American Football League All-Star in 1961, 1962 and 1965. Taylor was the first professional football receiver ever to make one hundred receptions in a single season (1961), and he accomplished that feat in only 14 games. He had four seasons with over 1,000 yards receiving, and averaged 84.7 catches from 1960 to 1965, at the time the highest six-year total in professional football history. He finished his career with the Houston Oilers, as the AFL's all-time reception leader with 567.

Frome DenverBroncos.com:

Number: 87
Position: End
Year Inducted: 1984
Years with Broncos: 1960-66

Then: Lionel Taylor, one of the original Broncos, was also one of the orginal Ring of Famers, being inducted with the inaugural class in 1984. He ranks No. 2 in franchise history in receiving with 543 receptions 6,872 yards, having held the franchise record in both categories until 1999 when he was eclipsed by Shannon Sharpe. Taylor is tied for first in touchdown receptions for a career with 44. He caught 92 passes during the 1960 season and followed that campaign with 100 receptions in 1961, leading the AFL in receiving for five of the league’s first six years of existence. His 100 receptions stood as a team record until 2000, when Ed McCaffrey caught 101 passes. Taylor was regarded by many as the possessor of the best hands in pro football. He never had fewer than 76 receptions in a season over those first six years, averaging 84.7 catches from 1960-65, at that time the highest six-year total in football history. Taylor was an All-AFL selection in 1960, ’61 and ’65 and played in the league all-star game in 1962. Taylor performed collegiately at New Mexico Highlands. Now: Taylor has enjoyed an extensive coaching career as an assistant in the NFL, including with the championship teams of the Pittsburgh Steelers in the 1970’s, and also in the collegiate ranks. He also served as head coach of the England Monarchs of the NFL Europe League.

Old Dude

04-26-2006, 12:49 PM

http://www.nearmintcards.com/pics/1962+Fleer/36.jpg

(in old Bronco Uni)

http://www.orangemane.com/BB/attachment.php?attachmentid=15438&d=1146079892

Ditto, from above.

JCMElway

04-26-2006, 12:55 PM

And with the 24th selection:

Brian Mitchell, PR/KR/RB, Redskins/Eagles/Giants

--Most Yards Gained, Career, Kick returns
14,014 Brian Mitchell, Washington, 1990-99; Philadelphia, 2000-02; N.Y. Giants, 2003
--4 career Kickoff returns for TD (The leaders have 6)
--Most yards gained, Punt returns
Most Yards Gained, Career
4,999 Brian Mitchell, Washington, 1990-99; Philadelphia, 2000-02; N.Y. Giants, 2003
--9 career TD when returning punts (Metcalf is the leader with 10.)
--Most Yards Returned, Career
19,013 Brian Mitchell, Washington, 1990-99; Philadelphia, 2000-02; N.Y. Giants, 2003 (p-4,999; k-14,014)
--2nd all time in Yards gained with 23,330. (Rice has 23,546)

*Note - This article was written two years ago. It's a lengthy read, but a good one.

Let's establish this from the start: Brian Mitchell is the craziest man in football. There's no other explanation for why he has willingly--no, eagerly--stood under punts and kickoffs for 14 years now. And for why he has accepted as part of the job such inflictions of damage to his body, relished even the mere hint of possible contact and come away yapping and jawing every time, just daring anyone to hit him harder.

Talk about a man in serious need of job therapy.

Any sane player doing what he has done for so long would be retired, knowing that he already has far exceeded the norm for return specialists, who usually have a short shelf life because of the battering they take or become smart enough to find another role. But Mitchell, 35, in his first year with the Giants and setting records with every return, yearns for the next kick. He remains one of the most fascinating and wacky characters produced by a league that has churned out damn few of them lately.

He also is the best ever at his glamorously risky trade. He already holds every major NFL kickoff'- and punt-return mark by such staggering margins--his combined kickoff and punt return yardage of 18,263 is more than 5,000 ahead of No. 2 Mel Gray's--that they never will be challenged. And he almost certainly will finish as the league's all-time leader in combined yards. With 22,561 yards, he has eclipsed Walter Payton and Emmitt Smith, and he's stalking No. 1 Jerry Rice, who has a 27-yard lead.
But it's not just all these yards and records that make Mitchell special. It's also the way he has gone about devouring these miles. He's nothing like the prototype returner, that wow-inducing, Dante Hall-type burner with dancing hips, questionable hands and an aversion to collisions. At 5-11, 220 pounds, with bully arms and a rock-like chest, Mitchell is tough, not fragile; powerful, not elusive; a monster among paperweights. He's quite happy to snap off a long return, but he gets his real jollies from a 10-yard gain that ends with him steamrollering a wannabe tackler.

Mitchell figures he has broken the arms of at least five opponents who tried to arm-tackle him. Then there are the foes he has knocked out; the most recent--Bears safety Mike Brown, a notorious hard tackler--got the worst of a sideline collision with the ball-toting Mitchell during a January 2002 playoff game. Earlier in his career, Mitchell cost himself maybe five additional touchdown returns--he has a record 13--because, instead of heading for the end zone, he purposely sought out and ran over the punter or kicker.

"I just don't like them," he says. "But then I figured out I could punish them just as much if I scored on them." Then he laughs. He laughs a lot, a man still embracing a game that refuses to relinquish its shackles on his common sense.

"This is what I love to do" he says. "I'm having too much fun to quit. I'm not going to kid you: I didn't think much of it at first. But once I figured out how much I could help my team if I did it the right way, I changed my mind."
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But Brian, all these years, all these hits? "You have to be a little off to be a returner," he says. "If you are worried about getting hit, you won't be any good. It's going to happen sometimes. But I have a linebacker's mentality. I am trying to give it to them more than they are to me."

To prepare for this bizarre combat, Mitchell stays in impeccable condition. The result: Despite already having returned an incredible 306 more kicks than anyone in league history, he has missed just one of 212 games in his career, and that was in his rookie season with the Redskins (1990), when coach Joe Gibbs worried about him aggravating a sore ankle. Mitchell has kept playing despite tour separated shoulders, assorted mangled fingers and feet and a knee damaged so badly it had to be drained at least twice a week during most of the 2001 season. But get this: He never has missed a practice in t4 years, not one. For any player, much less a returner, that is incomprehensible.

"What Brian Mitchell has done as a returner is truly one of the most remarkable accomplishments in the history of this league," says Texans general manager Charley Casserly, who, as the Redskins' G.M., drafted Mitchell. "To do it at this level for this long and do as well as he has in a job where guys are gunning to wipe you out every time, that's unbelievable. But very few guys have ever had his passion and desire either."

Unquestionably, Mitchell should be the first pure return specialist elected to the Hall of Fame.

Don't let all this testosterone fool you. Mitchell has survived so long because he also is so damn smart. He made the transformation from lust another high-risk returner to a craftsman once he realized consistency and putting his team first ranked ahead of an occasional ESPN highlight run. His delights now come from holding on to the ball, from earning strong field position, from even the slightest of positive return yardage. He doesn't dance; he always aims to go straight upfield.

"I've found I can change the game for my team if I can constantly give my offense good field position" he says. "If I fair catch and not fumble it and give them the ball at the 50 and they score, I had as much to do with that touchdown as the offense did. A stat that should be kept is how many yards returners save their offenses with smart decisions." This methodical approach has resulted in another amazing Mitchell fact: Despite his collision-addicted personality, he hasn't lost a fumble in years and has botched just a handful in his career.

"He has perfected his position," says Eagles cornerback Troy Vincent, who has played with or against Mitchell for the last 11 seasons. "He's turned it into a craft. He is the consummate pro, a throwback. Everyone knows him as a hard-nosed, hard-rock leader who takes no jive, stands up for what is right and goes about playing the right way. He doesn't wear gloves, he doesn't wear arm pads. He puts on his helmet and uniform the right way--shirt tucked in, socks pulled up--and then he knocks your block off."

And something else. "The guy has to be off his rocker a bit," says Vincent. "Thank God I blew out my knee on a return when I was with the Dolphins. It got me away from returning kicks."

You'd think that someone in Mitchell's position might want to assume a low profile in games. Why anger those who could deliver bodily harm? But of course, Mitchell doesn't see it that way. He lives to irritate opponents. He is a trash talker's trash talker, a high-energy whirlwind of tormenting remarks, a blowtorch stuck on high. His favorite targets are kickers and large foes--the bigger, the more inviting. When Redskins linebacker Jessie Armstead, another great gabber, played for the Giants, he'd jump on coverage teams just to have a shot at Mitchell. Warren Sapp, hardly a poster child for silence, became so agitated at Mitchell last season that he spat on him. And Mitchell is everywhere on the sideline, holding everyone accountable, from coaches to teammates who aren't playing hard enough.

"When you play against him, you hate him," says Giants punter Jeff Feagles, who, until this season, spent most of his 16-year career kicking to Mitchell. "He's in your face all the time. He's playing mind games. He'd tell me, 'You got away with it this time, but next time I am bringing it back all the way.' You know what he is doing, but it still affects you. But now that he is my teammate, I love him."

Mitchell plans his verbal assaults. He'll find the name of someone's wile in the opponent's media guide. "During the game, I will say to him, 'How's Joyce these days?'" he says, grinning like a kid in the midst of a prank. "And you know now he's thinking, 'How does Mitchell know her name? What has she been doing?' It distracts him and gives me an edge. I just have to make sure after the game that I tell the guy how I found out her name; I don't want him going home and saying, 'What's this--you and Mitchell?'"

"B. Mitch's way has cost him some Pro Bowls," says Lions guard Ray Brown, a former Redskin who befriended Mitchell when Mitchell began attracting the attention of Washington coaches in his first training camp with a fight a day, including one memorable showdown with 300-pound Jumpy Geathers. "He knows it. But he really doesn't like the people he plays against. That is an old-fashioned attitude, like Butkus and those guys used to have. He'd rather do everything he can to win than win a popularity contest." Brown's right; Mitchell has made just one Pro Bowl.

Still, before Mitchell's first games with the Eagles and Giants--clubs that had particularly despised him--he was named by teammates as special teams captain for the year. Both gestures are among his most treasured career highlights. "You can't help but embrace him," says Giants running back Tiki Barber. "He's got this sort of old-man-at-the-cookout humor that always makes you laugh. He lights up the locker room every day. And the way he works, it earns him immediate respect. Even if you hated him before he got here."

Mitchell developed his feisty personality while growing up as the youngest of seven kids in southern Louisiana under a father who spent 20 years in the Army and considered complaining a sign of weakness. Even now, Mitchell remains so insecure that he doesn't want anyone else to return kicks in practice. Since the Redskins released him in June 2000, claiming he was old and slow, he has feasted on these perceived slights to revitalize his career. Mitchell believes he had his best season in 2002 with the Eagles, averaging 27 yards per kick return and 12.3 per punt return.

"My father used to tell us that a Mitchell could do anything," he says. That's why he just wanted a chance in the NFL after finishing his career as a highly successful quarterback at Southwestern Louisiana, where he became the first player in NCAA history to pass for more than 5,000 yards and rush for more than 3,000. The Redskins scouted him as a running back during a postseason all-star game practice and drafted him in the fifth round in 1990. They discussed moving him to safety in his rookie year before trying him as a returner. Mitchell balked at the suggestion; he never had returned a kick on any level.

"I thought those returners were nuts," he says. Still, this was a way to make the team. In the opening preseason game, he brought back a kickoff for a touchdown. By his second season, he also was the primary punt returner. But he fumbled too much and lobbied too much for a bigger role at running back.

When Pete Rodriguez became the Redskins' special teams coach in 1994, he convinced Mitchell about the value of a quality return specialist to a team's success. "I knew he was tremendously talented, and you find out quickly how really smart he is and how much desire he has;' says Rodriguez, now with the Seahawks. "But he wasn't spending enough time on the little things that make a difference, like securing the ball, understanding blocking schemes, making good fair-catch decisions, studying kickers to find advantages. He wanted to be the best, and he finally saw what it would take to get there."

Rodriguez had Mitchell work with a ball stuck under each arm, so he couldn't reach to catch the ball on kicks; instead, he had to secure it to his chest, a technique that eliminated his fumbling problems. He also was smart enough to pattern his work habits after the most conscientious Redskins, players such as wide receiver Art Monk and running back Earnest Byner, who, even at the peak of his career, would fill in wherever he was needed in practice. Byner became Mitchell's role model. Once Mitchell began focusing better and training harder, his career exploded; now, he talks of playing another three seasons.

"You don't win championships with an occasional 80-yard return but with 9- and 12-yard returns all season and no fumbling," says Giants general manager Ernie Accorsi, who signed Mitchell as a free agent the day he became available this past offseason, part of the franchise's effort to upgrade its special teams. "But I really signed Brian more as a professional football player than a return guy. You can't put a value on his experience, his leadership, his savvy and the fire and passion that come with him."

But even Accorsi and coach Jim Fassel were shocked when Mitchell volunteered to be the scout team running back in practice. It's a thankless job involving considerable battering and usually is handled by an expendable practice team player. "No vet ever wants to do it; they run from it," says Fassel. But not Mitchell, who thinks the duty makes him game-tough. His eagerness also has helped carve out some playing time; he already has been used as a third-down back, something the Giants never envisioned. Mitchell has a pedigree here, too; he has gained 1,948 yards as a running back. He also has caught 255 passes and made an appearance at quarterback as a rookie, completing three of six passes and rushing for a 1-yard score in his lone series. Didn't shut up then, either.

The only time Brian Mitchell has been knocked out on a return came in 1994. Curtis Buckley of the Bucs caught him under the chin with his helmet; the impact was so violent, both players were out cold. Most returners might not have played the next week, much less that day. But Mitchell believed that if he didn't come back, it would be a sign that someone finally got the better of him. And no Mitchell can let that happen. So in the next special teams situation, he sprinted onto the field. That might not make sense to us. But, for Mitchell, it was the only way he could maintain his sanity within the nutty world he has continued to rule.

RELATED ARTICLE: Hall vs. Mitchell.

Dante Hall is the flavor of the moment among return men--and deservedly so. His streak of returning kicks for touchdowns in four straight games is unprecedented, which already makes him special. But the next Brian Mitchell? Not going to happen.

Here's the biggest reason: Hall (5-8, 187) is too small. To challenge Mitchell's career yardage figures, he would have to practice his craft at a high level another eight-plus years. His less-than-imposing body would have to take lots of hits in lots of games, increasing the likelihood of injury and general breakdowns--two elements the 5-11, 220-pound Mitchell has pretty much neutralized with his strength and power.

No question, Hall represents the thrill-producing side of returning that Mitchell's style doesn't come close to duplicating. But Mitchell's success centers around his consistency--he hardly ever loses yards--and his lack of fumbling. Hall is a gambler--just look at his game-winning punt return against the Broncos in Week 5--but by darting around the field, sometimes far from his blockers, he invites the kind of open-field hits that Mitchell mostly avoids. Those can lead to fumbles and increase the risk of injuries.

Other small return men--Mel Gray, Dave Meggett, Glyn Milburn--enjoyed lengthy careers, so Hall has role models. But remember this: Gray played 12 seasons and trails Mitchell by more than 5,000 return yards.--P.A.

RELATED ARTICLE: The art of the return.
SEE A DIFFERENT GAME

Let us enter the classroom of Professor Brian Mitchell and his course on Kick Returning 101.

First, Professor, which return do you like better?

"Probably most guys would say kickoffs because they are more straightforward. You catch the ball and try to get upfield as fast as you can. But I like punt returns because they are a little more exciting and risky. Crazy, huh? Lots of times guys are standing right around you, yelling things like, 'Old man, you are going to drop it.' And a punt could act six or seven different ways. If the ball is coming to me nose up and the tail is kind of back, it is going to fall to the left side of me, so I move to it. If the nose is down, those are the ones that travel. If it is up, it will be shorter."

So how do you return a punt?

"It all starts during me week. I Study me kickers for clues to help me. If the punter kicks it to the right, does he line up in the same place every time? If he does, then I will go right to that spot, and that can really unnerve them. Then they try to change at the last minute and kick the other way, and that leads to bad kicks.

"When he does punt, the first thing I do is pick up the nose of the ball. That tells me how the kick will act. From our scouting reports, I know how far he usually kicks and his hang time. So if he averages 40 yards, I will line up 40 or 41 yards away. If I have to back up, I am thinking return because he's outkicking his coverage. If it is shorter, I want to catch it so it won't bounce and cost us yards. But I always line up behind a bouncing ball, so if it comes straight back to me, I can take off.

"I have a clock in my head like a quarterback: one-thousand one, one-thousand two, one-thousand three. I have a feel for hang time. You learn to look at the outside coverage guys and keep track of the hang time. If their outside guys are being held up, I am thinking return unless it is a short kick. But if the ball is close to a 5.0 hang time, I know I am close to trouble and need to fair-catch it. That's enough time for the coverage to get down on me. My first priority is always ball security. You see guys fumble because they are looking upfield before they secure it."

What about blocking schemes? "I learned real quickly that you stay with them and not mess around. I tried that years ago trying to break one, and I got hit by seven guys and dumped on my head. That shortens your career.

"If you follow your return 100 times, you will get 90-plus good returns. If you try to free-lance too much, you wind up with 10 good returns. I am going from catching it to securing it to running with it in less than a second, so I may miss some holes.

"What I am trying to do is always go forward for positive yards. If I can get a block, one guy is not going to bring me down. If I can go through the season and never fumble and go forward, I have had a successful year. I have never hurt the offense's field position, and that should always be a return guy's goal."

Old Dude

04-26-2006, 01:05 PM

Interesting read. We all focus more on Hall out here, for obvious reasons.

Mr. Trout is on the clock until 2:00 a.m.

On Deck:

Dipsomaniac
Youcandoit
Bronco LB 52
Ray Finkle

Youcandoit may also make one pick at any time.

Mr. Trout

04-26-2006, 01:36 PM

not too many good MLB's left but this guy is a damn good one in the league today.

I select.....Mike Peterson, MLB, Jacksonville Jaguars

Mr. Trout

04-26-2006, 01:37 PM

Mr. Trout’s Team

QB, Fran Tarkenton
RB Tony Dorsett
FB, Larry Csonka
WR, Andre Reed, Steve Smith (KR, PR)
WR, Irving Fryar
TE, Antonio Gates
T, Richmond Webb
G, Mike Munchack
C, Mark Stepnoski
G, Alan Faneca
T, John Runyan

DE, Deacon Jones
DT, Jamal Williams
DT, Kevin Williams
DE, Howie Long
OLB, Bobby Bell
MLB, Mike Peterson
OLB, Keith Bulluck
CB, Darrel Green
CB, Louis Wright
S, Jack Tatum
S, Troy Polamalu
K,
P,
Coach, Hank Stram

JCMElway

04-26-2006, 01:42 PM

Interesting read. We all focus more on Hall out here, for obvious reasons.

This is what I think of Hall. :wiggle:

Old Dude

04-26-2006, 01:43 PM

Dipsomaniac PM'd me with his pick about an hour ago:

http://www2.indystar.com/library/factfiles/sports/football-pro/indpls_colts/history/oldshula.jpg

http://www.miamidolphins.co.uk/images/pictures/shula/shula5.jpg

Don Shula’s record as head coach of the Baltimore Colts from 1963 to 1969 and the Miami Dolphins from 1970 to 1995 is unmatched in NFL history. In 1995, he concluded his 33rd season as the winningest NFL head coach ever with a career mark of 347-173-6 (.665).

Of all NFL coaches, only Shula and the immortal George Halas attained 300 victories. The Colts under Shula enjoyed seven straight winning seasons and in 26 years at Miami, Shula’s Dolphins experienced only two seasons below .500. Shula’s team reached the playoffs 20 times in 33 years and his teams won at least 10 games 21 times.

Shula holds the NFL record for having coached in six Super Bowls but his teams won only twice. In Super Bowl VII, the 1972 Dolphins completed their historic 17-0-0 campaign – the only perfect season in NFL history – with a 14-7 win over the Washington Redskins. In 1973, Miami defeated the Minnesota Vikings in Super Bowl VIII to culminate a two-season span when the Dolphins won 32 of 34 games.
...

From

http://www.profootballhof.com/hof/member.jsp?player_id=194

JCMElway

04-26-2006, 01:44 PM

Youcandoit is on the clock until 2:30 AM. He may make TWO selections because of his missed selection in round 23. Bronco LB 52, Ray finkle, and Killericon are on deck.

Rocket 7

04-26-2006, 01:56 PM

Old Dude

04-26-2006, 01:57 PM

Might be awhile before Youcandoit is back, so I may as well post my roster...

QB: Sammy Baugh
RB: Jim Brown
RB: Marion Motely
WR: Don Hutson
WR: Bobby Mitchell
TE: Fred Arbanas
T: Anthony Munoz
T: Roosevelt Brown
G: Gene Upshaw
G: Gene Hickerson
C: Mel Hein

DT: Bob Lilly
DT: Ernie Stautner
DE: Gino Marchetti
DE: Len Ford
MLB: Tommy Nobis
OLB: Chuck Howley
OLB: "Dirty Les" Richter
FS: Cliff Harris
SS: Emlen Tunnell
CB: Red Grange
CB: ?

P: Sammy Baugh
K: Lou Groza
C: Paul Brown

Reserve: Don Maynard (WR#3)

Boldface = Hall of Famer

JCMElway

04-26-2006, 01:59 PM

I know. What sucks is that he was on the board today. He was so gung-ho to get in this thing. I hope he doesn't flake out.

JCMElway

04-26-2006, 03:30 PM

Hey all, we'll give youcandoit three misses here. After the third miss we've got someone lined up to take the team over.

Is three misses and you're out a good rule of thumb, or should it be two? From here on out I think teams picking in the 1,2,3,14,15, and 16 positions should get three strikes, but the rest of the drafters can get booted after two misses. There's simply too long to wait between picks for the middle drafters. If just one drafter doesn't keep up, it makes this thing really drag out. If you check the thread once a day you can get your picks in.

Does this sound cool with everyone?

Old Dude

04-26-2006, 03:34 PM

Rocket 7

04-26-2006, 03:40 PM

Sounds fine with me. We've still got 16 or 17 rounds to go.
So when can my friend offically pick?

Old Dude

04-26-2006, 03:47 PM

So when can my friend offically pick?

If youcandoit misses his third pick, then your friend can enter one at that point.

JCMElway

04-26-2006, 03:52 PM

So when can my friend offically pick?

For your friend to pick Youcandoit would have to miss the current pick (his 2nd) and his next pick, which would make 3. This was the stated rule (three strikes and you're out) when Youcan joined the draft.

However, from here on out, picks 4-13 may be booted if they miss two picks in a row. Picks 1-3 and 14-16 may be booted if they miss three picks in a row. I think that's fair to everyone and will allow us to get this draft done before the start of training camp.

JCM

JCMElway

04-26-2006, 03:53 PM

If youcandoit misses his third pick, then your friend can enter one at that point.

If that happens your friend can make three picks for him!

Ray Finkle

04-26-2006, 04:04 PM

I will take Sam Gash FB......when my turn is up.

Killericon

04-26-2006, 08:42 PM

Three misses sounds good.

youcandoit1687

04-26-2006, 08:50 PM

so sorry about that guys coaches are making me go to vball and fball so i leave at 615 and dont get home till like 9 so its rather hectic and with standardized testing no computer class. ugh but dont worry im still checking close to daily.

first pick:

James Paul "Jimbo" Covert (born March 22 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/March_22), 1960 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1960) near Pittsburgh) was an offensive tackle (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tackle_%28football%29) in the National Football League (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Football_League) for the Chicago Bears (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicago_Bears). Covert attended the University of Pittsburgh (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Pittsburgh) after getting his start in football at Southmoreland High School east of Pittsburgh. He was drafted (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NFL_Draft) by the Bears in 1983 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1983). Nominated to the Pro Bowl (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pro_Bowl) twice, he also won a Super Bowl (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_Bowl) as a member of the 1985 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1985) Chicago Bears (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicago_Bears). He retired following the 1990 season.
http://www.sportsecyclopedia.com/nfl/chicago/Jcovertchi.jpg

youcandoit1687

04-26-2006, 09:09 PM

http://www.dallasnews.com/s/dws/img/08-05/0814mcalister.jpg

Chris McAlister, CB Baltimore Ravens

Year Team G Total Tckl Ast Sac Int Yds Avg Lg TD Pass Def
1999 Baltimore Ravens 16 47 45.0 2 0 5 28 5.6 21 0 16
2000 Baltimore Ravens 16 41 35.0 6 0 4 165 41.2 98 1 10
2001 Baltimore Ravens 16 71 63.0 8 0 1 0 0.0 0 0 9
2002 Baltimore Ravens 13 53 48.0 5 0 1 0 0.0 0 0 17
2003 Baltimore Ravens 15 43 33. 10 0 3 93 31.0 83 1 11
2004 Baltimore Ravens 15 42 38.0 4 0 1 51.0 51 1 8
2005 Baltimore Ravens 14 48 46.0 2 0 1 0 0.0 0 0 12

once again, sry bout the late picks but dont worry, at the most they will be one day late, and if i see my pick is coming up ill PM someone. thanks again

Bronco LB 59

04-26-2006, 10:13 PM

My team selects Otis Taylor WR, Kansas City

Old Dude

04-26-2006, 10:14 PM

Old Dude

04-26-2006, 10:16 PM

Ray Finkle's hidden pick in post 1233 was Sam Gash, FB.

Old Dude

04-26-2006, 10:18 PM

Killericon PM'd me earlier today to select Shawn Merriman, LB, Chargers.

Old Dude

04-26-2006, 10:29 PM

The Old Dudes will take Emmitt Thomas, CB, Chiefs (1966-78)

http://www.georgeblowfish.com/ethomas.jpg

Five time pro-bowler & #1 corner on KC's Super Bowl IV team. 58 career INTs in 181 games, and returned 5 for TDs.

After his retirement, Thomas became an assistant coach and served on a number of teams, including two Redskins Super Bowl champs. He is still active and is currently the secondary coach for the Atlanta Falcons.

Old Dude

04-27-2006, 05:01 AM

I see that there is still one player available on a list that Phibacka submitted earlier: Gerard Warren DT, Browns, Broncos.

Clockwork Orange is on the Clock until 6:00 P.M. CST.

On Deck:

-Slap-
Big Guy
Eddie Mac
Phisig

Youcandoit may make one pick at any time.

Old Dude

04-27-2006, 08:37 AM

Clockwork Orange is on the Clock until 6:00 P.M. CST.

On Deck (for remainder of 24th round):

-Slap-
Big Guy
Eddie Mac
Phisig
BMF Bronco
Arkie

25th Round

Arkie
BMF Bronco
Phisig
Eddie Mac
Big Guy
-Slap-
Clockwork Orange
Phibacka
Old Dude
Killericon
Ray Finkle
Bronco LB 52
Youcandoit
Dipsomaniac
Mr. Trout
JCMElway

Then, Pursuant to an earlier trade, in the 26th round, JCMElway will get Old Dude's pick. So it will look like this:

JCMElway
Mr Trout
Dipsomaniac
Youcandoit
BroncoLB52
Ray Finkle
Killericon
JCMElway
Phibacka
Clockwork Orange
-Slap-
Big Guy
Eddie Mac
Phisig
BMF Bronco
Arkie

Youcandoit made one invalid pick and may make it up at any time.

Clockwork Orange

04-27-2006, 08:57 AM

The Sacrelegends select Reggie Roby, P Dolphins/Redskins/Buccaneers/Oilers/Titans/49ers

http://www.sportsecyclopedia.com/nfl/miami/Rrobymia.JPG

QB: Warren Moon
RB: LaDanian Tomlinson
FB: Tom Rathman
WR: Randy Moss
WR: Art Monk
TE: Todd Heap
OT: Jackie Slater
OG: Russ Grimm
C: Mike Webster
OG: Nate Newton
OT: Erik Williams

DE: Reggie White
DT: Art Donovan
DT: John Henderson
DE: Jack Youngblood

LB: Harry Carson
LB: Zach Thomas
LB: Wilber Marshall

CB: Charles Woodson
CB: Eric Allen
FS: Darren Woodson
SS: Rodney Harrison

K: Jason Elam
P: Reggie Roby

Coach:

Old Dude

04-27-2006, 09:32 AM

BTW, I am thinking that if the site crashes for an appreciable period of time this weekend (which is possible, with the draft days going on), we should be a little more liberal about the deadlines for those two days... Maybe 24 hours instead of 12, and then we can get back to the 12 hour rule on Monday. Any objections?

Arkie

04-27-2006, 11:50 AM

http://www.sportsecyclopedia.com/nfl/miami/Rrobymia.JPG

I can't see the watch. Does anybody know why he always wore a watch on the field?

Old Dude

04-27-2006, 11:55 AM

I think it had some sort of stopwatch feature on it that he used to keep track of his hangtime.

Either that, or he was getting paid by the hour.

-Slap- is still on our clock.... (hint, hint)

youcandoit1687

04-27-2006, 12:44 PM

ok once again sry for the confusion..im going to go with
Dan Sandifer, DB/HB(gonna play him at CB or S)
<TABLE><TBODY><TR vAlign=center align=middle><TH rowSpan=2>Season</TH><TH rowSpan=2>Team(s)</TH><TH bgColor=#dfdfff colSpan=4>Defense</TH><TR vAlign=center><TH>INT</TH><TH>Yds</TH><TH>Avg</TH><TH>TD</TH></TR><TR vAlign=center align=right><TD align=middle>1948</TD><TD align=middle>WAS (http://www.jt-sw.com/football/pro/stats.nsf/Annual/1948-was)</TD><TD>13</TD><TD>258</TD><TD>19.8</TD><TD>2</TD></TR><TR vAlign=center align=right><TD align=middle>1949</TD><TD align=middle>WAS (http://www.jt-sw.com/football/pro/stats.nsf/Annual/1949-was)</TD><TD>5</TD><TD>82</TD><TD>16.4</TD><TD>0</TD></TR><TR vAlign=center align=right><TD align=middle>1950</TD><TD align=middle>DET (http://www.jt-sw.com/football/pro/stats.nsf/Annual/1950-det)/SF (http://www.jt-sw.com/football/pro/stats.nsf/Annual/1950-sf)/PHI (http://www.jt-sw.com/football/pro/stats.nsf/Annual/1950-phi)</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>27</TD><TD>13.5</TD><TD>0</TD></TR><TR vAlign=center align=right><TD></TD><TD align=middle>DET (http://www.jt-sw.com/football/pro/stats.nsf/Annual/1950-det)</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>27</TD><TD>13.5</TD><TD>0</TD></TR><TR vAlign=center align=right><TD></TD><TD align=middle>SF (http://www.jt-sw.com/football/pro/stats.nsf/Annual/1950-sf)</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0.0</TD><TD>0</TD></TR><TR vAlign=center align=right><TD></TD><TD align=middle>PHI (http://www.jt-sw.com/football/pro/stats.nsf/Annual/1950-phi)</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0.0</TD><TD>0</TD></TR><TR vAlign=center align=right><TD align=middle>1951</TD><TD align=middle>PHI (http://www.jt-sw.com/football/pro/stats.nsf/Annual/1951-phi)</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>28</TD><TD>28.0</TD><TD>0</TD></TR><TR vAlign=center align=right><TD align=middle>1952</TD><TD align=middle>GB (http://www.jt-sw.com/football/pro/stats.nsf/Annual/1952-gb)</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>25</TD><TD>12.5</TD><TD>0</TD></TR><TR vAlign=center align=right><TD align=middle>1953</TD><TD align=middle>CHC (http://www.jt-sw.com/football/pro/stats.nsf/Annual/1953-chc)/GB (http://www.jt-sw.com/football/pro/stats.nsf/Annual/1953-gb)</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0.0</TD><TD>0</TD></TR><TR vAlign=center align=right><TD></TD><TD align=middle>CHC (http://www.jt-sw.com/football/pro/stats.nsf/Annual/1953-chc)</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0.0</TD><TD>0</TD></TR><TR vAlign=center align=right><TD></TD><TD align=middle>GB (http://www.jt-sw.com/football/pro/stats.nsf/Annual/1953-gb)</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0.0</TD><TD>0</TD></TR><TR vAlign=center align=right><TH align=middle colSpan=2>Career</TH><TH>23</TH><TH>420</TH><TH>18.3</TH><TH>2</TH></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
hopefully he hasnt been taken i looked at the list on pg 49 or 50 and didnt see him after that. thanks for understanding

Killericon

04-27-2006, 01:13 PM

My Next pick:
|Joe Horn, WR|

Old Dude

04-27-2006, 02:06 PM

ok once again sry for the confusion..im going to go with
Dan Sandifer, DB/HB(gonna play him at CB or S) ...hopefully he hasnt been taken i looked at the list on pg 49 or 50 and didnt see him after that. thanks for understanding

It's easy to get lost when we're dealing with this many teams and this many rounds. Gosh knows none of us are perfect. I'll try to post the alpha list at least once each round, but people need to check all the posts in between the last list and their own pick.

JCMElway

04-27-2006, 03:29 PM

JCMElway

04-27-2006, 06:36 PM

-Slap- is on the clock until 10:00 p.m.

Big guy, Eddie Mac, and phisig are on deck.

-Slap-

04-27-2006, 06:41 PM

I want to give my defense the versatility to switch to a 3-4 when I desire, so I need a pure nose tackle. The choice is Fred Smerlas NT Buffalo/SF/NE 1979-1992.

http://assets.buffalobills.com/images/content/photos/smerlasalumni1_subsq.jpg

Some great stuff from Smerlas and Chuck Knox in this article:

Where Are They Now: Fred Smerlas (http://www.buffalobills.com/news/AlumniSpotlightFredSmerlas.jsp)
Former second round pick by the Bills in 1979 was a five-time Pro Bowl selection

buffalobills.com

Nov. 6, 2002

By Jim Gehman

As strong as an ox and as talkative as Oprah, Fred Smerlas was one of the most celebrated defensive linemen to ever wear a buffalo on his helmet.

A two-time All-New England tackle at Boston College, Smerlas was disappointed to slip to the second round of the 1979 NFL draft. But after hearing from Bills coach Chuck Knox, he quickly became excited about heading to Buffalo irregardless of when he was selected.

"I was ready to go in the top ten players, but I had some malfunctioning in my brain during my senior year. I’d get in a lot of fights. We were 0-11. I was a captain and a very enthusiastic player, so to speak. I didn’t like losing and anybody that was in my way to win, I wanted to dismantle them. So I dropped into the second round. The big reason was because I was kind of a wild man. I was ‘uncoachable,’" said Smerlas, who became a nose tackle in Buffalo’s 3-4 defense. "At Boston College, the coaches come in and have a tie on, and they say, ‘Oh, you gentlemen…’ You know how they talk. Chuck gets on the phone and says ‘I hear you’re a mean mother (expletive). I want you to come up here and kick some (expletive).’ I liked that. You’re at that stage where you’d like to fight anything and anybody that’s in front of you and now you’ve got a coach that wants you to. It was the perfect situation."

With a combination of veterans like Joe Ferguson, Joe DeLamielleure and Reggie McKenzie; along with rookies like Smerlas, Jim Haslett and Jerry Butler; the Bills went 7-9 in ‘79. However, the following year, Buffalo won the AFC East and was a playoff team for the first time in six seasons. Smerlas felt very comfortable with his teammates and found motivation from Knox’s unusual pep talks.

"We were a bunch of wild men. We were 7-9 (in ‘79), but we really started cranking it up for the next couple years when we had the No. 1 defense in the NFL. We were just a lot of no-name guys. Chuck Knox would come up to me and say, ‘You suck! I wasted a draft pick on you, you piece of (expletive)!’ I was like, ‘Whoa.’ I started watching films and by the end of the season, I was kicking (butt) as opposed to the beginning of the season. Chuck knew how to deal with people. He was a perfect coach. I don’t know if I could have functioned anywhere else. When you’re in an insane asylum, you don’t seem insane, right? If I could recreate that group, I could just live with those guys. It was just so much fun, it was unbelievable."

http://assets.buffalobills.com/images/content/photos/smerlasalumni2_subsq.jpg

Smerlas played in four consecutive Pro Bowls beginning in 1980. During that period, the Bills also started a series of coaching changes. Knox left for Seattle after the ‘82 campaign and was replaced by Kay Stephenson. Stephenson was fired after two-plus seasons and followed by Hank Bullough.

"It was so perfect when you got there and then Chuck became Kay. I said, ‘Chuck, don’t leave me here.’ But I wouldn’t want to play anywhere else but Buffalo. I loved it there. The people, the bars, restaurants, just where I wanted to be. And he left me there with Kay. Chuck was my guy!," Smerlas said. "It was very, very difficult. When you rely so much on emotion to play, to just drain yourself, I didn’t play well for a couple of years. And then the ‘Braincell’ came in. He kind of rekindled my career because I hated him so much. And everyone on the team hated him. There was a giant state lottery and I went to the store. Everyone on the team was in line playing the lottery, hoping to win it so they could spit in Hank Bullough’s face. Can you imagine that? That’s how much we hated him."

Smerlas’ attitude and on-field performance improved with the arrival of Marv Levy in 1986. It was recognized when he was selected to play in the Pro Bowl, his fifth, after a four year absence.

"My hatred towards Hank was so high that when Marv came in, he was anybody but Hank. So you rekindle yourself like Drew Bledsoe’s doing up in Buffalo. I got fired up and I played extremely well. Marv Levy allowed us to have our legs back in games too, so that helped. We weren’t exhausted like we were with ‘Braincell.’

"So ‘88 came and I made the Pro Bowl which was just so gratifying. The press said, ‘Well, how do you feel? You’ve been playing great again.’ I said, ‘No, I’ve been playing well for a couple years, it’s just the (national) press hasn’t been here to see it. When you’re 2-14, no one sees you. If I’m a New York Giant, I’m in the Pro Bowl 10 times. Because I’m in Buffalo where the media coverage is limited and you’re losing - forget about it. It was rewarding to go back after the four years because it legitimized the other years too. You don’t just re-surge after 10 years, you must have been playing at a pretty good level."

Smerlas was left unprotected for the ‘90 Plan B free agency and after 11 seasons in the middle of Buffalo’s defensive line, reluctantly signed with San Francisco.

"I loved where I played and what I did. I became obsessive with that piece of turf that I protected every weekend as the nose tackle. That’s why when I left, part of me died. I played emotionally. And I loved to play in Buffalo," said Smerlas. "(After one season with the 49ers) I rekindled that with the Patriots a little bit because I was back in my (home) area."

Johnny Unitas
Earl Campbell
Shannon Sharpe
John Hannah
Randy Gradishar
Jack Ham
Doug Atkins
Lenny Moore
Torry Holt
Dennis Smith
Buck Buchanan
Brian Dawkins
Bob "Boomer" Brown
Aeneas Williams
Russ Washington
Gene "Big Daddy" Lipscomb
Andre Tippett
Olin Kruetz
Lemar Parrish
Curtis Martin
Charles Haley
Rick Upchurch
Joe Gibbs
Fred Smerlas

The KnockYerDickintheDirts
O
QB - Johnny Unitas
RB - Earl Campbell
FB -
LT - Bob Brown
LG - John Hannah
C - Olin Kruetz
RG -
RT - Russ Washington
TE - Shannon Sharpe
WR - Lenny Moore
WR - Torry Holt

RB - Curtis Martin

D
LDE - Doug Atkins
LDT - Gene "Big Daddy" Lipscomb
RDT - Buck Buchanan
RDE - Charles Haley
SLB - Jack Ham
MLB - Randy Gradishar
WLB - Andre Tippett
FS - Brian Dawkins
SS - Dennis Smith
CB - Aeneas Williams
CB - Lemar Parrish

NT - Fred Smerlas

K -
P -
RS - Rick Upchurch

HC - Joe Gibbs

Old Dude

04-27-2006, 06:46 PM

Big Guy is on the clock until 7:45 a.m.

ON DECK:

Eddie Mac
Phisig
BMF Bronco
Arkie

JCMElway

04-27-2006, 09:37 PM

Hey Slappy,

Now you nabbed one of the guys on my list. Well Done.

Billy Clyde Puckett

04-27-2006, 10:06 PM

Old Farts continue to grab guys who are versatile and can play multiple positions and select flanker, running back and defensive back Frank Gifford, We'll put him on the depth chart at flanker for now.

Class of 1977

Halfback, Flanker >>> 6-1, 197

(Southern California)

1952-1960, 1962-1964 New York Giants

Frank Newton Gifford. . .All-America at USC. . .No. 1 draft pick, 1952. . .Starred on both offense, defense, 1953. . .All-NFL four years. . . NFL Player of Year, 1956. . .In seven Pro Bowls, playing defensive back, halfback, flanker. . .Retired in 1961, came back as flanker, 1962. . .Totaled 9,862 combined yards. . .Record includes 3,609 yards rushing, 367 receptions, 484 points. . .Born August 16, 1930, in Santa Monica, California.

By the time that Frank Gifford joined the New York Giants as their No. 1 draft choice in 1952 he had already experienced unusual gridiron success in both high school and college. At the University of Southern California, Frank played both offense and defense and had won All-America honors as a senior.

It took only a few days for Giants coach Steve Owen to realize he had a prize as Gifford could run, pass, catch, play defensive back, and return punts and kicks. In 1953, he even played two ways in an era of one-platoon specialists, averaging almost 50 minutes every game.

In 1956, he was the NFL's Most Valuable Player as he paced the Giants to a league championship. Six times he was named first- or second-team All-NFL. Then in 1960, a severe head injury suffered in a game against the Philadelphia Eagles put Frank on the sidelines.

When he decided to retire before the 1961 season, there was every reason to believe the sparkling Gifford era was over. But in 1962 he returned to the game he loved. Facing and conquering the dual problems of regaining his touch after a long layoff and of learning a new position – he was switched from halfback to flanker to take advantage of his great pass-catching skills – Gifford attained star status once again.

No better yardstick of Frank's great versatility can be gained than from his eight Pro Bowl selections. He was named to the Pro Bowl at three different positions – first as a defensive back, then as an offensive halfback; and last as a flanker in 1964.

The Giants won big during the Gifford years and, while the team was loaded with many great pro football names, no one played a more dynamic role, year in and year out, in bringing the Giants success than did Frank Gifford.

Billy Clyde Puckett

04-27-2006, 10:08 PM

THE OLD FARTS

QB - Roger Staubach, Bob Griese(also Punter)
RB - OJ Simpson, Jim Taylor
FB -
WR - Paul Warfield
WR - Harold Carmichael, Frank Gifford
TE - John Mackey
T - Bob St Clair
G -Joe Delamielleure
C - Jim Ringo
G- Jerry Kramer
T - Stan Jones

DE - Bubba Smith
DT - Alex Karras, Jim Marshall
DT - Randy White
DE - Ed Too Tall Jones
WOLB - Brad Van Pelt
MLB - Joe Schmidt
SOLB - Wayne Walker - Will also be PK
CB - Lem Barney
CB -
SS - Dick LeBeau
FS - Dick Anderson

Old Dude

04-27-2006, 10:08 PM

Eddie Mac is now on the clock until 11:00 a.m.

On Deck:

Phisig
BMF Bronco
Arkie
Arkie
BMF Bronco
Phisig
Eddie Mac
Big Guy
-Slap-
Clockwork Orange

eddie mac

04-28-2006, 11:37 AM

The Fighting Irish select Franco Harris RB, Pittsburgh Steelers 72-83, Seattle Seahawks 84

Franco Harris. . .No. 1 draft pick, 1972. . .Provided big-back power to Steelers offense. . .All-Pro, 1977, All-AFC three times. . .In eight Pro Bowls. . .158 yards rushing, MVP in Super Bowl IX . . .Rushed 1,000 yards eight seasons, 100 yards, 47 games. . .Career record: 12,120 yards, 91 TDs rushing; 2,287 yards, 9 TDs receiving; 14,622 combined net yards. . . 1,556 yards rushing in 19 post-season games. . . Born March 7, 1950, in Fort Dix, New Jersey.

Franco Harris began his pro football career as the Pittsburgh Steelers' No.1 pick and the 13th player selected in the 1972 NFL Draft. For 12 seasons, the 6-2, 230-pounder from Penn State was a big-yardage running back, a key man in the powerful Pittsburgh offensive machine, which also included an outstanding passing attack.

Harris established himself as a future superstar when he became only the fourth rookie in NFL annals to rush for 1,000 yards. He gained additional attention by being on the receiving end of the famous "Immaculate Reception" pass from Terry Bradshaw that gave the Steelers their first-ever playoff win, a 13-7 victory over the Oakland Raiders. In his 13 seasons, the last of which was spent with the Seattle Seahawks in 1984, Harris rushed 2,949 times for 12,120 yards and 91 touchdowns.

He rushed for 1,000 yards or more eight seasons and for more than 100 yards in 47 games. He also caught 307 passes for 2,287 yards and nine touchdowns. His career rushing total and his combined net yardage figure of 14,622 both ranked as the third highest marks in pro football history at the time of his retirement.

Harris, who was born in Fort Dix, New Jersey, on March 7, 1950, was an All-AFC choice in 1972, 1975, 1976, and 1977 and first- or second-team All-Pro six times. He was selected to nine Pro Bowls. Franco played in five AFC championships – missing a sixth because of injury – and four Super Bowls.

In Super Bowl IX, when the Steelers won their first-ever league title with a 16-6 victory over Minnesota, Harris rushed for 158 yards, compared to just 17 yards rushing for the entire Viking team. He was named the game's Most Valuable Player. Harris held numerous Super Bowl and post-season game records by the end of his career. The most notable include 24 points and 354 yards rushing in four Super Bowls and 17 touchdowns and 1,556 yards rushing in 19 post-season playoff games.

The Fighting Irish

QB Joe Montana
RB Gale Sayers, Franco Harris
FB Bronko Nagurski
WR Lance Alworth, Fred Biletnikoff
WR Raymond Berry
OT Walter Jones
OT Lomas Brown
OG Tom Mack
OG Bill Fralic
OC Frank Gatski

DE Lee Roy Selmon
DE Richard Dent
NT Arnie Weinmeister
LB Bill George
LB Kevin Greene
LB Cornelius Bennett
LB NICK BUONICONTI
CB Deion Sanders
CB Frank Minniefield
S Willie Wood
S Yale Lary

K
P
KR/PR Deion Sanders

Old Dude

04-28-2006, 11:39 AM

Nice pick. He was next on my list.

Phisig is on the clock.

On deck:

BMF Bronco
Arkie
Arkie
BMF Bronco
Phisig
Eddie Mac
Big Guy
-Slap-
Clockwork Orange

phisig150

04-28-2006, 04:41 PM

Dante Hall chefs

JCMElway

04-28-2006, 10:09 PM

BMF Bronco is on the clock until 11:00 PM CST

Arkie, Arkie, BMF, Phisig, and Eddie Mac are ondeck

Old Dude

04-29-2006, 10:10 PM

Time has expired in the 24th round for BMF Bronco's pick.

Arkie is on the clock, and here is his 24th Round pick:

Sam Mills, MLB, Saints/Panthers, 1986-97

http://www.scottfowlersports.com/photos/sammills.jpg

Arkie says:

Sam Mills, Jr. (born June 3, 1959 in Neptune, New Jersey, died April 18, 2005 in Charlotte, North Carolina) was an American football linebacker who played twelve seasons in the National Football League for the New Orleans Saints and Carolina Panthers.

Mills attended Montclair State University. Told he was too small to play in the NFL, he ended up with the Philadelphia Stars of the USFL for three years. During that time, he became known in the league for both his tenacity on the field and his leadership off it. His speed, surprising for a man of his size, earned him the nickname "the Field Mouse". When Stars head coach Jim Mora left the team to coach the NFL's New Orleans Saints, Mills followed his mentor. During his tenure with the Saints, Mills was a key part of the team's linebacker corps, the "Dome Patrol", in the early 1990's that consistently took the Saints to the playoffs. Mills earned four Pro Bowl appearances with the Saints, in 1987, 1988, 1991, and 1992.

Mills became a free agent at the end of the 1994 NFL season, and was signed by the expansion team Carolina Panthers. Mills became a veteran leader for the young team, and anchored the Panthers defense. In fact, Mills was the only player to start every game during the Panthers' first three season. His career rebirth gave him a fifth Pro Bowl appearance in 1996, at the age of 37. His age and experience on the Panthers team gave him a new nickname: "Pops". After retiring in 1997, Mills stayed with the organization as a linebackers coach. Young players like Dan Morgan cite his leadership and experience as helpful to their careers.

Mills played 12 seasons in the NFL and recorded 1,319 tackles, 20.5 sacks, 11 interceptions and four touchdowns while starting 173 of 181 games. He is the only person in the Carolina Panthers Hall of Fame. He was elected to both the Louisiana Sports Hall of Fame (1991) and the Sports Hall of Fame of New Jersey (1993).

Mills was diagnosed with intestinal cancer in August 2003. At first, doctors told him he had only several months to live. But Mills battled the disease bravely. He underwent chemotherapy and radiation, but continued coaching. He was an inspirational force in the Panthers’ post-season run to Super Bowl XXXVIII. His phrase "Keep Pounding", in an emotional speech before the Panthers' victory over the Dallas Cowboys, later became the name of a fund to sponsor cancer research programs. Mills died at his home in Charlotte, North Carolina on the morning of April 18, 2005 at the age of 45.

Mills' number #51 was retired by the Panthers and Saints at the start of the 2005 NFL season.

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AND ..

Arkie's first pick in the 25th Round is:

Tim McDonald, SS, Cardinals/49ers, 1987-99

http://www.sportsecyclopedia.com/nfl/az/sikahemaaz.JPG

Tim McDonald (born January 6, 1965 in Fresno, California) was a former football player who played strong safety in the National Football League. He was drafted by the St. Louis Cardinals in the second round (34th pick overall) of the 1987 NFL Draft. He signed as a free agent by the San Francisco 49ers on April 7, 1993 and was a six-time Pro Bowler where he helped the 49ers win the Super Bowl XXIX, and retired after the 1999 season.

He attended the University of Southern California, and majored in business administration. As a three year starter, he accumulated 325 tackles and 11 interceptions. He was a consensus All-American as a senior in 1986, and followed a prominent list of All-American safeties who attended USC such as Ronnie Lott, Dennis Smith, and Mark Carrier.

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BMF Bronco is back on the clock until 11:00 P.M. tomorrow night for his pick in the 25th Round and he may also make his 24th Round pick at any time.

youcandoit1687

04-30-2006, 06:05 PM

Arkie's first pick in the 25th Round is:

Tim McDonald, SS, Cardinals/49ers, 1987-99

http://www.sportsecyclopedia.com/nfl/az/sikahemaaz.JPG

Tim McDonald (born January 6, 1965 in Fresno, California) was a former football player who played strong safety in the National Football League. He was drafted by the St. Louis Cardinals in the second round (34th pick overall) of the 1987 NFL Draft. He signed as a free agent by the San Francisco 49ers on April 7, 1993 and was a six-time Pro Bowler where he helped the 49ers win the Super Bowl XXIX, and retired after the 1999 season.

He attended the University of Southern California, and majored in business administration. As a three year starter, he accumulated 325 tackles and 11 interceptions. He was a consensus All-American as a senior in 1986, and followed a prominent list of All-American safeties who attended USC such as Ronnie Lott, Dennis Smith, and Mark Carrier.

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BMF Bronco is back on the clock until 11:00 P.M. tomorrow night for his pick in the 25th Round and he may also make his 24th Round pick at any time.

hey thats my coach right now in HS, i was going to pick him lol darn

phisig150

04-30-2006, 11:04 PM

Todd Sauerbrun

eddie mac

05-01-2006, 12:31 PM

The Fighting Irish select

Ray Childress
Position: Defensive Tackle
Team: Houston Oilers
Years: 1985-1995

Career: If Bruce Mathews was Houston's ever-dependable, jack-of-all trades stud on the offensive side of the ball for most of the 80's and 90's, then Ray Childress was certainly his defensive bookend. Until a shoulder separation ended his season, and, essentially, his career, in 1995, Childress missed only 3 non-strike games due to injury, playing 154 games along the defensive front from 1985-1994. And like Mathews, Childress excelled at each position on his respective line.

Drafted from Texas A&M with the third overall pick to play end, Childress moved to defensive tackle in 1990 when coordinator Jim Eddy shifted from a 3-4 to a 4-3 defensive base. Childress never missed a beat. Already a well-regarded, Pro Bowl end (with some emergency nose guard experience), he went to Hawaii four more times as a defensive tackle (five trips in all as an Oiler), and was staunch in his defense of the run. To wit, four of the eight lowest single-season rushing totals allowed in franchise history came between 1990 and 1993 with Childress at tackle. But Childress was equally adept at defending the pass.

Childress finished his Oiler career ranked second all-time in quarterback sacks and sixth all-time in tackles, joining Elvin Bethea as the only defensive linemen among the Oilers' top 10 in both categories. Childress led or shared the team sack lead from 1986-1989 and finished with the most single-season sacks for a defensive tackle (13) in 1992. For his 11-year career, Childress registered 13 multi-sack games.

Childress also had an uncanny knack for making big plays, as evidenced by his amazing 7 fumble recoveries in 1988, two shy of the NFL record for a season. Three came in Houston's return to primetime football, a memorable 41-17 romp over the Redskins, broadcast on ESPN October 30. Childress was also a hard-nosed competitor, the heart of a defense that led Houston to seven consecutive playoff appearances and at his pinnacle, the best defensive tackle in football.

A salary cap victim in 1995, he played one ineffective season with Dallas before retiring, sans regret: "I gave the Houston Oilers everything I had," Childress said, "and they gave me everything they had. I think we're even. I've got nothing bad to say about anybody."

Houston Highlight: Houston hosted the Pittsburgh Steelers on December 8, 1991, with a chance to clinch the franchise's first-ever outright AFC Central title. Rising to the occasion, Childress turned in a monster game, sacking QB Bubby Brister twice, while adding seven tackles and a forced fumble to his cache. The Oilers went on to win the division, 31-6. For his efforts in one of Houston's seminal pro football moments, Childress was named AFC Defensive Player of the Week.

The Fighting Irish

QB Joe Montana
RB Gale Sayers, Franco Harris
FB Bronko Nagurski
WR Lance Alworth, Fred Biletnikoff
WR Raymond Berry
OT Walter Jones
OT Lomas Brown
OG Tom Mack
OG Bill Fralic
OC Frank Gatski

DE Lee Roy Selmon
DE Richard Dent, Ray Childress
NT Arnie Weinmeister, Ray Childress
LB Bill George
LB Kevin Greene
LB Cornelius Bennett
LB NICK BUONICONTI
CB Deion Sanders
CB Frank Minniefield
S Willie Wood
S Yale Lary

K
P
KR/PR Deion Sanders

Billy Clyde Puckett

05-01-2006, 04:09 PM

Old Farts figure they should fill out their roster and make another homer pick at Corner:

Tom Brookshier Eagles 1953-1961

Inducted to Eagles Honor Roll 1989

Originally a 10th round pick from Colorado, Brookshier made an immediate impact with 8 interceptions his rookie season of 1953. In all he spent seven years with the Eagles and collected 20 interceptions. The after spending two years in teh Air Force, he returned to the Eagles and twice earned all pro honors - first in 1959 and again in 1960 as a member of the NFL championship team. Upon retiring as a player, he entered the broadcast booth on CBS's telecasts of NFL games.

Billy Clyde Puckett

05-01-2006, 04:10 PM

Old Dude

05-01-2006, 04:15 PM

-Slap- is on the clock until 1:30 a.m.

Clockwork Orange is on deck, and BMF Bronco may make two selections at any time.

-Slap-

05-01-2006, 05:55 PM

Whoa, Nellie!

The selection is Keith Jackson
TE Phi/Mia/GB 1988-1996.

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The five time All Pro isn't as highly regarded as Kellen Winslow or Ozzie Newsome, but Jackson's 49 career TDs were more than either of his peers managed.

Jackson helped lead Oklahoma to a national championship in 1985. In his college career, he recorded a total of 62 receptions for 1,407 yards. An incredible average of 23.7 yards per catch, and he was a devastating blocker in Oklahoma's dominating rushing attack. He was named an All-American in 1986 and 1987. In 2001, Jackson was enshrined in the College Football Hall of Fame.

Drafted 13th overall by Philadelphia, Jackson won the NFC Rookie of the Year award in 1988. He caught a career high 10 TD passes in his final season, helping the Green Bay Packers win Super Bowl XXXI in the last game of his career.

Turning him loose with Shannon Sharpe in two TE sets should be a whole lot of fun.

+-------------------------+
| Receiving |
+----------+-----+-------------------------+
| Year TM | G | Rec Yards Y/R TD |
+----------+-----+-------------------------+
| 1988 phi | 16 | 81 869 10.7 6 |
| 1989 phi | 14 | 63 648 10.3 3 |
| 1990 phi | 14 | 50 670 13.4 6 |
| 1991 phi | 16 | 48 569 11.9 5 |
| 1992 mia | 13 | 48 594 12.4 5 |
| 1993 mia | 15 | 39 613 15.7 6 |
| 1994 mia | 16 | 59 673 11.4 7 |
| 1995 gnb | 9 | 13 142 10.9 1 |
| 1996 gnb | 16 | 40 505 12.6 10 |
+----------+-----+-------------------------+
| TOTAL | 129 | 441 5283 12.0 49 |
+----------+-----+-------------------------+

Johnny Unitas
Earl Campbell
Shannon Sharpe
John Hannah
Randy Gradishar
Jack Ham
Doug Atkins
Lenny Moore
Torry Holt
Dennis Smith
Buck Buchanan
Brian Dawkins
Bob "Boomer" Brown
Aeneas Williams
Russ Washington
Gene "Big Daddy" Lipscomb
Andre Tippett
Olin Kruetz
Lemar Parrish
Curtis Martin
Charles Haley
Rick Upchurch
Joe Gibbs
Fred Smerlas
Keith Jackson

The KnockYerDickintheDirts

RB Earl Campbell

FB -

QB Johnny Unitas

WR Torry Holt TE Shannon Sharpe RT Russ Washington RG _____ C Olin Kruetz LG John Hannah LT Bob Brown WR Lenny Moore

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LDE Doug Atkins LDT Gene Lipscomb RDT Buck Buchanan RDE Charles Haley

SLB Jack Ham MLB Randy Gradishar WLB Andre Tippett

CB Aeneas Williams FS Brian Dawkins SS Dennis Smith CB Lemar Parrish

RB Curtis Martin
TE Keith Jackson

NT Fred Smerlas

K -
P -
RS Rick Upchurch

HC Joe Gibbs

Clockwork Orange

05-01-2006, 06:01 PM

The Sacrelegends select Bill Walsh, Head Coach 49ers

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QB: Warren Moon
RB: LaDanian Tomlinson
FB: Tom Rathman
WR: Randy Moss
WR: Art Monk
TE: Todd Heap
OT: Jackie Slater
OG: Russ Grimm
C: Mike Webster
OG: Nate Newton
OT: Erik Williams

DE: Reggie White
DT: Art Donovan
DT: John Henderson
DE: Jack Youngblood

LB: Harry Carson
LB: Zach Thomas
LB: Wilber Marshall

CB: Charles Woodson
CB: Eric Allen
FS: Darren Woodson
SS: Rodney Harrison

K: Jason Elam
P: Reggie Roby

Coach: Bill Walsh

Old Dude

05-01-2006, 09:03 PM

Phibacka is on the clock until 5:00 a.m. CST.

BMF Bronco may make two picks at any time.

Old Dude

05-02-2006, 05:08 AM

Phibacka's time has expired.

The Old Dudes will select the Franchise. Floyd Little, RB, Broncos (1967-75)

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Pursuant to a hidden pick, Killericon selects Joe Horn, WR, Chiefs, Saints (1996-present)

http://images.usatoday.com/sports/nfl/_photos/2003-12-14-inside-saints.jpg

(Joe is obviously getting the call, here)

Ray Finkle is now on the clock until 6:00 p.m. CST. Bronco LB 52 is on deck.

Phibacka may make one pick at any time.

BMF Bronco may make two picks at any time.

Old Dude

05-02-2006, 08:17 AM

Updated Alphabetical List (mid-25th round)

Adams, Sam
Adderley, Herb
Allen, Eric
Allen, Larry
Allen, Marcus
Alexander, Shaun
Alstott, Mike
Alworth, Lance
Alzado, Lyle
Anderson, Dick
Arbanas, Fred
Archuleta, Adam
Armstrong, Bruce
Atkins, Doug
Atwater, Steve

Bailey, Champ
Barber, Ronde
Barber, Tiki
Barney, Lem
Baugh, Sammy
Bavaro, Mark
Bednarik, Chuck
Bell, Bobby
Bennett, Cornelius
Berry, Raymond
Bethea, Elvin
Bettis, Jerome
Biletnikoff, Fred
Birk, Matt
Blount, Mel
Brookshier, Tom
Boselli, Tony
Brady, Tom
Brazile, Robert
Brooks, Derrick
Brooks, Larry
Brown, Bob "Boomer"
Brown, Jerome
Brown, Jim
Brown, Lomas
Brown, Paul*
Brown, Roger
Brown, Roosevelt
Brown, Ruben
Brown, Tim
Brown, Willie
Browner, Joey
Bruce, Isaac
Buchanan, Buck
Bulluck, Keith
Buoniconti, Nick
Butkus, Dick

Campbell, Earl
Carmichael, Harold
Carson, Harry
Carter, Cris
Carter, Dale
Casper, Dave
Cherry, Deron
Childress, Ray
Christiansen, Jack
Christiansen, Todd
Clayton, Mark
Coates, Ben
Covert, James "Jumbo"
Creekmur, Lou
Csonka, Larry
Culp. Curley
Curtis, Mike

Davis, Terrell
Davis, Willie
Dawkins, Brian
Dawson, Dermontti
Dawson, Len
Dean, Fred
Delamielleure, Joe
Dent, Richard
Dickerson, Eric
Dierdorf, Dan
Ditka, Mike
Dixon, Hanford
Doleman, Chris
Donovan, Art
Dorsett, Tony

Easley, Kenny
Elam, Jason
Eller, Carl
Elway, John

Faneca, Alan
Faulk, Marshall
Favre, Brett
Fears, Tom
Fencik, Gary
Ford, Len
Fortunato, Joe
Fouts, Dan
Fralic, Bill
Freeney, Dwight
Fryar, Irving

Gash, Sam
Gastineau, Mark
Gates, Antonio
Gatski, Frank
George, Bill
Gibbs, Joe*
Gifford, Frank
Gonsoulin, William "Goose"
Gonzales, Tony
Gradishar, Randy
Graham, Otto
Grange, Red
Green, Darrell
Greene, "Mean" Joe
Greene, Kevin
Greenwood, L.C.
Gregg, Forrest
Griese, Bob
Griffith, Howard
Grimm, Russ
Groza, Lou
Guy, Ray

Haley, Charles
Hall, Dante
Ham, Jack
Hamilton, Ben
Hampton, Dan
Hanks, Merton
Hannah, John
Harris, Cliff
Harris, Franco
Harrison, Marvin
Harrison, Rodney
Hayes, Lester
Haynes, Mike
Heap, Todd
Hein, Mel
Henderson, John
Hendricks, Ted
Hickerson, Gene
Hinton, Chris
Hirsch, Elroy "Crazy Legs"
Holt, Tory
Horn, Joe
Houston, Ken
Howley, Chuck
Huff, Sam
Humphrey, Claude
Hutchinson, Steve
Hutson, Don

Irvin, Michael

Jackson, Bo
Jackson, Keith
Jackson, Rich “Tombstone”
Jackson, Ricky
Jackson, Tom
Jacoby, Joe
James, Edgerrin
Johnson, Chad
Johnson, Jimmy
Johnson, Keyshawn
Joiner, Charlie
Jones, Deacon
Jones, Ed "Too Tall"
Jones, Stan
Jones, Walter
Jordan, Henry

Karras, Alex
Kelly, Leroy
Kennedy, Cortez
Kinard, Frank "Bruiser"
Klecko, Joe
Kramer, Jerry
Krause, Paul
Kruetz, Owen
Kuechenberg, Bob
Kunz, George

Lambert, Jack
Lane, Dick "Night Train"
Langer, Jim
Lanier, Willie
Largent, Steve
Lary, Yale
Lavelli, Dante
Law, Ty
LeBeau, Dick
Lewis, Albert
Lewis, Ray
Lilly, Bob
Lipscomb, Gene "Big Daddy"
Little, Floyd
Little, Larry
Lloyd, Greg
Lofton, James
Long, Howie
Lott, Ronnie
Lynch, Jim
Lynch, John

Mack, Tom
Mackey, John
Manning, Peyton
Marchetti, Gino
Marino, Dan
Marshall, Jim
Marshall, Wilber
Martin, Curtis
Matthews, Bruce
Mawae, Kevin
Maynard, Don
McCalister, Chris
McCormack, Mike
McDaniel, Randall
McDonald, Tim
McDonald, Tommy
McNabb, Donovan
Mecklenburg, Karl
Merriman, Shawn
Michalske, Mike
Mills, Sam
Minnifield, Frank
Mitchell, Bobby
Mitchell, Brian
Mix, Ron
Monk, Art
Montana, Joe
Moon, Warren
Moore, Herman
Moore, Lenny
Moss, Randy
Motely, Marion
Mudd, Howard
Munchak, Mike
Munoz, Anthony
Musso, George

Nagurski, Bronko
Nalen, Tom
Namath, Joe
Neal, Lorenzo
Newsome, Ozzie
Newton, Nate
Nischke, Ray
Nobis, Tommy
Nomellini, Leo
Norton, Ken

O'Neal, Leslie
Ogden, Jonathan
Olsen, Merlin
Otto, Jim
Owens, Terrell

Pace, Orlando
Page, Alan
Parcells, Bill*
Parker, Jim
Parrish, Lemar
Payton, Walter
Peppers, Julius
Perry, William
Peterson, Mike
Pihos, Pete
Polamalu, Troy
Porter, Joey
Pryce, Trevor

Randle, John
Rathman, Tom
Reed, Andre
Reed, Ed
Renfro, Mel
Rice, Jerry
Rice Simeon
Richter, Les
Riggins, John
Ringo, Jim
Roaf, Willie
Robustelli, Andy
Roby, Reggie
Romanowski, Bill
Runyon, John

Sanders, Barry
Sanders, Bob
Sanders, Charlie
Sanders, Deion
Sandifer, Dan
Sapp, Warren
Sauerbrun, Todd
Sayers, Gale
Schlereth, Mark
Schlessinger, Cory
Schmidt, Joe
Seau, Junior
Selmon, Lee Roy
Seymour, Richard
Shanahan, Mike*
Sharpe, Shannon
Sharpe, Sterling
Shaw, Billy
Shell, Art
Shell, Donnie
Shields, Will
Shockey, Jeremy
Shula, Don*
Simpson, OJ
Singletary, Mike
Siragusa, Tony
Slater, Jackie
Smerlas, Fred
Smith, Bubba
Smith, Bruce
Smith, Dennis
Smith, Emmitt
Smith, Jackie
Smith, Jimmy
Smith, Neil
Smith, Rod
Smith, Steve
St Clair, Bob
Stallworth, John
Stanfel, Dick
Starr, Bart
Staubach, Roger
Stautner, Ernie
Stenrud, Jan
Stephenson, Dwight
Stepnoski, Mark
Strahan, Michael
Stram, Hank*
Strong, Mack
Stroud, Marcus
Swann, Eric
Swann, Lynn

Tarkenton, Fran
Tasker, Steve
Tatum, Jack
Tatupu, Lofa
Taylor, Charley
Taylor, Jim
Taylor, Lawrence
Taylor, Lionel
Taylor, Otis
Thomas, Derrick
Thomas, Emmitt
Thomas, Thurman
Thomas, Zach
Thompson, Billy
Thorpe, Jim
Tippett, Andre
Tomlinson, LaDanian
Tunnell, Emlen
Turley, Kyle
Turner, Clyde "Bulldog”

Unitas, Johnny
Upchurch, Rick
Upshaw, Gene
Urlacher, Brian

Van Buren, Steve
Van Pelt, Brad
Vilma, Jonathan
Vinatieri, Adam

Walker, Doak
Walker, Wayne
Walls, Everson
Walsh, Bill*
Ward, Hines
Warfield, Paul
Warren, Gerard
Washington, Russ
Waters, Brian
Webb, Richmond
Webster, Mike
Wehrli, Roger
Weinmeister, Arnie
White, Randy
White, Reggie
Wilcox, Dave
Williams, Aeneas
Williams, Erik
Williams, Jamal
Williams, Kevin
Williams, Roy
Wilson, Al
Wilson, Larry
Winslow, Kellen
Wisenewski, Steve
Wood, Willie
Woodson, Charles
Woodson, Darren
Woodson, Rod
Wright, Louis
Wright, Rayfield

Yary, Ron
Young, Steve
Youngblood, Jack

Zimmerman, Gary

* coaches