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Spider
02-10-2006, 06:35 PM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/4698652.stm

Climate 'warmest for millennium'
By Paul Rincon
BBC News science reporter


Sunbathers during 2005 Paris heatwave, AP
The last 100 years is more striking than either the Medieval Warm Period or Little Ice Age
Timothy Osborn, UEA
In the late 20th Century, the northern hemisphere experienced its most widespread warmth for 1,200 years, according to the journal Science.

The findings support evidence pointing to unprecedented recent warming of the climate linked to greenhouse emissions.

University of East Anglia researchers measured changes in fossil shells, tree rings, ice cores and other past temperature records or "proxies".

They also looked at people's diaries from the last 750 years.

Timothy Osborn and Keith Briffa of UEA analysed instrument measurements of temperature from 1856 onwards to establish the geographic extent of recent warming.

Then they compared this data with evidence dating back as far as AD 800.

The analysis confirmed periods of significant warmth in the Northern Hemisphere from AD 890 - 1170 (the so-called "Medieval Warm Period") and for much colder periods from 1580 - 1850 (the "Little Ice Age").

Natural records

The UEA team showed that the present warm period is the most widespread temperature anomaly of any kind since the ninth century.

"The last 100 years is more striking than either [the Medieval Warm Period or Little Ice Age]. It is a period of widespread warmth affecting nearly all the records that we analysed from the same time," co-author Timothy Osborn told the BBC.

Osborn and Briffa used 14 sets of temperature records from different locations across the Northern Hemisphere.

The records included long life evergreen trees growing in Scandinavia, Siberia and the Rockies which had been cored to reveal the patterns of wide and narrow tree rings over time. Wider rings related to warmer temperatures.

The chemical composition of ice from cores drilled in the Greenland ice sheets revealed which years were warmer than others.

Dear diary

The researchers used proxy data developed from the diaries of people living in the Netherlands and Belgium during the past 750 years that revealed, for example, the years when the canals froze.

"These records extend over many centuries and even thousands of years. We simply counted how many of those records indicated that, in any one year, temperatures were warmer than average for the region they came from," said Dr Osborn.

Professor John Waterhouse, director of the Environmental Sciences Research Centre Anglia Ruskin University in Cambridge commented: "Although we're getting increasingly accurate measurements of present-day temperature, we've got nothing like that from the past to compare those with.

"There's much uncertainty in past reconstructions. You've got to look at the reconstructed data in the past in light of the likely errors that those data have."

But he added: "As we get more and more evidence in, it is looking as if the current period is the warmest for over 1,000 years."

In November, Science published a paper showing atmospheric levels of the greenhouse gases carbon dioxide and methane are higher now than at any time in the past 650,000 years.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
02-10-2006, 08:19 PM
But Spider:

Everybody knows global warming doesn't really exist.

It's just more of that damn librul propaganda designed to slander our God-fearin' president and those good business folk who give him money.

Just like the dinosaurs are nuthin' but a hoax created by librul atheists to try to make us not believe in Jesus!

;)

Spider
02-10-2006, 08:55 PM
But Spider:

Everybody knows global warming doesn't really exist.

It's just more of that damn librul propaganda designed to slander our God-fearin' president and those good business folk who give him money.

Just like the dinosaurs are nuthin' but a hoax created by librul atheists to try to make us not believe in Jesus!

;)
Diabolical bastards those liburls are ;D

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
02-12-2006, 09:24 PM
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Hotrod
02-13-2006, 08:04 AM
Global warming my ass its again 20 fricking below.

Spider
02-13-2006, 08:07 AM
Global warming my ass its again 20 fricking below.
it got to -45 wind chill in southern Wyoming , while we was above zero , -20 below in the colorado rockies is damn near bikini weather , stop your bítching and wait for the real cold ;D

Spider
02-13-2006, 08:08 AM
but then cold spells happen , what you will find odd is , they dont last as long as they used to ........

Hotrod
02-13-2006, 09:27 AM
but then cold spells happen , what you will find odd is , they dont last as long as they used to ........

Actually thats not true here. I was talking to some local folks today and one of them made a good point. While we usually have 2-3 weeks sometime around early to mid Feb that it gets down to around -20 to -40 this year we've been running +20 to -30 since mid December.

Up here this kind of long cold winter is known as a 'cleaning' winter. It seems to clean out alot of TX/CA transplants ;D

Spider
02-13-2006, 09:38 AM
Actually thats not true here. I was talking to some local folks today and one of them made a good point. While we usually have 2-3 weeks sometime around early to mid Feb that it gets down to around -20 to -40 this year we've been running +20 to -30 since mid December.

Up here this kind of long cold winter is known as a 'cleaning' winter. It seems to clean out alot of TX/CA transplants ;D
;D could be , many different weathr patterns in the rockies ...... I shouldnt have lumped all areas the same

Garcia Bronco
02-13-2006, 10:00 AM
No politican has an aggressive environment policy. they'll have to be a complete disaster for that to happen.

Garcia Bronco
02-13-2006, 10:02 AM
"Professor John Waterhouse, director of the Environmental Sciences Research Centre Anglia Ruskin University in Cambridge commented: "Although we're getting increasingly accurate measurements of present-day temperature, we've got nothing like that from the past to compare those with."

This is the sticking point for many that claim temperatures from the past to be inaccurately measured. It's a hard sell.

TheDave
02-13-2006, 10:15 AM
Actually thats not true here. I was talking to some local folks today and one of them made a good point. While we usually have 2-3 weeks sometime around early to mid Feb that it gets down to around -20 to -40 this year we've been running +20 to -30 since mid December.

Up here this kind of long cold winter is known as a 'cleaning' winter. It seems to clean out alot of TX/CA transplants ;D

Where do you live.... Just need to scratch another place off the "Will consider moving there" list

-20 to -40 Fvck That!!!!

Spider
02-13-2006, 10:15 AM
"Professor John Waterhouse, director of the Environmental Sciences Research Centre Anglia Ruskin University in Cambridge commented: "Although we're getting increasingly accurate measurements of present-day temperature, we've got nothing like that from the past to compare those with."

This is the sticking point for many that claim temperatures from the past to be inaccurately measured. It's a hard sell.
interesting point .......

Hotrod
02-13-2006, 11:14 AM
Where do you live.... Just need to scratch another place off the "Will consider moving there" list

-20 to -40 Fvck That!!!!

Gunnison Colorado, Its a high mtn valley so basically once the cold air settles into the valley it cant escape. Or some BS like that ;D

TheDave
02-13-2006, 11:17 AM
Gunnison Colorado, Its a high mtn valley so basically once the cold air settles into the valley it cant escape. Or some BS like that ;D

time to move out of Brokeback ;D

Spider
02-13-2006, 11:21 AM
Ha! Bikini weather , you sissy

Hotrod
02-13-2006, 11:23 AM
Ha! Bikini weather , you sissy

We were out running around town this weekend and saw a dude wearing shorts and a t-shirt. The bank down the street said it was +4. That dude is a fine example that theres a fine line between tough and stupid ;D

Spider
02-13-2006, 11:26 AM
We were out running around town this weekend and saw a dude wearing shorts and a t-shirt. The bank down the street said it was +4. That dude is a fine example that theres a fine line between tough and stupid ;D
Ha! , I know i was in a teeshirt last week , wind whipping around , Clyde ( ver y old man ) said , you bastard you aint tough , you are just insane ....... ;D

baja
02-13-2006, 12:36 PM
Gunnison Colorado, Its a high mtn valley so basically once the cold air settles into the valley it cant escape. Or some BS like that ;D

been through there many times hell it's cold in the summer....

Hotrod
02-13-2006, 01:58 PM
been through there many times hell it's cold in the summer....

;D I dont know when you get used to these winters 70's feel pretty darn hot in the summer.

Bronco_Beerslug
02-13-2006, 02:25 PM
Global warming my ass its again 20 fricking below.

Damn Colorado hill weenie :wiggle: . Working in Craig in '77 it was -45 for 4 days. Working outside we were burning scaffolding planks in fire barrels trying not to freeze to death.

Hotrod
02-13-2006, 02:27 PM
Damn Colorado hill weenie :wiggle: . Working in Craig in '77 it was -45 for 4 days. Working outside we were burning scaffolding planks in fire barrels trying not to freeze to death.

LOL I usually dont condone playing hookie but in that case you should have gotten the flu kindda suddenly.

TailgateNut
02-13-2006, 02:40 PM
Gunnison Colorado, Its a high mtn valley so basically once the cold air settles into the valley it cant escape. Or some BS like that ;D


I need to buy some land there, it's getting to damn hot down here in the valley! My wife might not agree, but it's got to be better movin' to the hills than moving north of here. Sheep have no appeal and wind 24/7 s***s!

Spider
02-13-2006, 02:45 PM
I need to buy some land there, it's getting to damn hot down here in the valley! My wife might not agree, but it's got to be better movin' to the hills than moving north of here. Sheep have no appeal and wind 24/7 s***s!
Hey , .......... watch what you say about our wom...... err sheep ;D

broncocalijohn
02-14-2006, 01:24 AM
the folks in the new england states would like to respond to this thread but they are under 27 inches of snow form yesterday and all lines are cut.

broncocalijohn
02-14-2006, 01:26 AM
We were out running around town this weekend and saw a dude wearing shorts and a t-shirt. The bank down the street said it was +4. That dude is a fine example that theres a fine line between tough and stupid ;D

Dont call him stupid. Did you get a close look at him? It was probably MECK. Have u ever seen him wear pants?

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
02-14-2006, 03:17 AM
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Hotrod
02-14-2006, 08:07 AM
Dont call him stupid. Did you get a close look at him? It was probably MECK. Have u ever seen him wear pants?

Meck is in his own catagory :yep:

Hotrod
02-14-2006, 08:08 AM
the folks in the new england states would like to respond to this thread but they are under 27 inches of snow form yesterday and all lines are cut.

Ya but they are warm ;D

I would like to get 27" here of course even that would not shut us down like it did in the east. Denver would be a mess but were built for snow here. I say bring that **** on!