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Hotrod
02-09-2006, 09:13 AM
http://hauns.com/~DCQu4E5g/koran2.html

Im over being PC

Requiem
02-09-2006, 09:33 AM
And people act as if things like this aren't in the Bible. Next.

Hotrod
02-09-2006, 09:36 AM
And people act as if things like this aren't in the Bible. Next.

Um where was that said??? Maybe reading and thinking are not your strong points. Next

Do you actually have anything of substance to add or were you just happy to use a rubber stamp answer ???

TheDave
02-09-2006, 09:54 AM
Um where was that said??? Maybe reading and thinking are not your strong points. Next

Do you actually have anything of substance to add or were you just happy to use a rubber stamp answer ???

Damn... That cold is really getting to you...or is it the TO thing ???

Kick up the space heater another notch...all is good :thumbs:

Hotrod
02-09-2006, 10:00 AM
Damn... That cold is really getting to you...or is it the TO thing ???

Kick up the space heater another notch...all is good :thumbs:

The TO thing most likely ;D

Im just curious to how we keep hearing about how 'most' of them are peaceful 'live let live' muslims yet they keep protesting/blowing up women/children/yelling death to this and that. I just dont see the 'peaceful' side of these people I guess. Personally im pretty much over the whole "its just a few extreamists." Looks like to me its a common goal to kill the infidels yet we just go on with our PC lives.

Wonder if Christians hit the streets yelling death to Iran death to Iraq if the world would remind everyone that most Christians were peace loving and these were just the fanatics???

Hotrod
02-09-2006, 10:12 AM
Has anyone heard any of our "religious leaders" recently threatening attacks or to destroy the M.E.

On Sunday after Americas churchs get out do you see the youth protesting the weeks events by burning the Iranian flag???

TheDave
02-09-2006, 10:13 AM
The TO thing most likely ;D

Im just curious to how we keep hearing about how 'most' of them are peaceful 'live let live' muslims yet they keep protesting/blowing up women/children/yelling death to this and that. I just dont see the 'peaceful' side of these people I guess. Personally im pretty much over the whole "its just a few extreamists." Looks like to me its a common goal to kill the infidels yet we just go on with our PC lives.

Wonder if Christians hit the streets yelling death to Iran death to Iraq if the world would remind everyone that most Christians were peace loving and these were just the fanatics???

Honestely Boss, i don't think their relegion is peaceful for the most part. I'm not an expert on it but their is something about the koran that lends it self to be easily twisted into violence... But is that the relegion or the territory. I don't see muslims here in the U.S. doing anything crazy... but you put them in the desert and crank up the heat index and suddenly jihad is all they have on the brain.

Since i'm not a big fan of any organized relegion i get a little nervous by most of them. Unfortunately, we chose to hang out in the desert with them so their obsession with jihad seems to land on the front page of our papers...

Rascal
02-09-2006, 10:22 AM
I am reading Arab Historians of the Crusades so it should be interesting.

I've often wondered if their fanatacism was a recent development (creation of Israel) or if it has always been that way. I'm hoping this book can answer some of those questions.

Mile High Shack
02-09-2006, 10:27 AM
a relgion born of hate and violence and oppression tends to breed the same type of people

Hotrod
02-09-2006, 10:35 AM
http://www.faithfreedom.org/oped/JasonPappas40401.htm

This was a very good read :yep:

Mile High Shack
02-09-2006, 10:43 AM
http://www.faithfreedom.org/oped/JasonPappas40401.htm

This was a very good read :yep:

yeah, I'll pull no punches

Islam is evil...and Mohammed was one crazy mfer who killed people for sport basically...that and raped teenage girls

Hotrod
02-09-2006, 10:44 AM
Well that should get the party started ;D

Mile High Shack
02-09-2006, 10:51 AM
Well that should get the party started ;D

I'm just waiting for the..but Christians did this and this in the name of Jesus

I retort with, if you read the new testament teachings of Jesus, nowhere can you find "kill the infidels" like you can in the Koran

Hotrod
02-09-2006, 11:22 AM
I'm just waiting for the..but Christians did this and this in the name of Jesus

I retort with, if you read the new testament teachings of Jesus, nowhere can you find "kill the infidels" like you can in the Koran

Exactly I was honestly surprised once I started to read some of the teachings of the koran. Its pretty scary for those that actually research and see what these people are reading/teaching to their kids. Kind of a sick twisted cult it you ask me.

Rascal
02-09-2006, 11:49 AM
http://www.faithfreedom.org/Articles/sina/why_i_left_islam.htm

Antilles
02-09-2006, 11:51 AM
I'm just waiting for the..but Christians did this and this in the name of Jesus

I retort with, if you read the new testament teachings of Jesus, nowhere can you find "kill the infidels" like you can in the Koran

True, although St. Augustine (City of God) comes pretty close and for a time his writings were Church dogma. Maybe its simply a matter of a religion growing and maturing over the centuries.

Requiem
02-09-2006, 11:58 AM
Has anyone heard any of our "religious leaders" recently threatening attacks or to destroy the M.E.

On Sunday after Americas churchs get out do you see the youth protesting the weeks events by burning the Iranian flag???

Pat Robertson called for the assisination of a foreign leader.

Mile High Shack
02-09-2006, 12:00 PM
Pat Robertson called for the assisination of a foreign leader.

Pat Robertson isn't a true christian

Requiem
02-09-2006, 12:05 PM
He's still considered a huge part of the evangelical community in the USA though.

Rascal
02-09-2006, 12:08 PM
He's still considered a huge part of the evangelical community in the USA though.

And do you see people going out and doing that?

If a muslim cleric in Iran had said, go and kill so and so, their followers would go and follow that order.

No he isn't, besides he recanted.

Furthermore this country was established with a seperation of church and state, it isn't the same over there.

Typical maneauver though on your part.

Hotrod
02-09-2006, 12:10 PM
Pat Robertson called for the assisination of a foreign leader.

And what was the result of this guys calling for his assisination??? Nothing he was laughed at. Unlike the religious leaders of the M.E. who call for the death of all the Jews and their followers actually take up arms/bombs and try to make it happen.

Requiem
02-09-2006, 12:10 PM
I responded to the fact that have any religious leaders made any threats, I pointed out one who has.

Requiem
02-09-2006, 12:11 PM
And what was the result of this guys calling for his assisination??? Nothing he was laughed at. Unlike the religious leaders of the M.E. who call for the death of all the Jews and their followers actually take up arms/bombs and try to make it happen.

Sure they do, it's a completely different situation. It's really hard to draw parallels between two places founded by completely different principles.

Mile High Shack
02-09-2006, 12:12 PM
I responded to the fact that have any religious leaders made any threats, I pointed out one who has.

you see anyone strapping on a bomb and trying to kill the President of Venezula?

nope

but you have a leader in Islam say death to americans and jews, then you have people flying a plane into a building

Hotrod
02-09-2006, 12:15 PM
Sure they do, it's a completely different situation. It's really hard to draw parallels between two places founded by completely different principles.

I think the thread was more about looking at the fact these people are evil. The media keeps talking about the peace loving ones. Where are these and why do they bother continuing to study the faith since they are now sinners and will burn in hell for not attempting to kill the Jews and Christians? According to what I've found/read if they have accepted us as friends they will now burn in hell.

Requiem
02-09-2006, 12:16 PM
Nope. I sure don't.

The fundamentalists ordering these attacks have strong supporters. They cannot be detterred. For them, their end justifies the means.

Mile High Shack
02-09-2006, 12:20 PM
I think the thread was more about looking at the fact these people are evil. The media keeps talking about the peace loving ones. Where are these and why do they bother continuing to study the faith since they are now sinners and will burn in hell for not attempting to kill the Jews and Christians? According to what I've found/read if they have accepted us as friends they will now burn in hell.

that's exactly it

the ones who accept us aren't true muslims

the only true muslim wants to see all nonbelievers either convert or dead....there is no in between

which is why you can't reason with these people...and which coincidentally will be a reason there will never be peace in the ME

Requiem
02-09-2006, 12:20 PM
I think the thread was more about looking at the fact these people are evil. The media keeps talking about the peace loving ones. Where are these and why do they bother continuing to study the faith since they are now sinners and will burn in hell for not attempting to kill the Jews and Christians? According to what I've found/read if they have accepted us as friends they will now burn in hell.

The fundamentalists are a small portion of the total community of Muslims. It's the same media that talks about the "peace loving Muslims" that also talks about the fundamentalists such as these. Had the United States not been attacked by fundamentalists, this conversation wouldn't be happening and I guarentee most people wouldn't give two ****s about what's going on there. Why? Because out of the industrialized nations of the world, the citizens of America know the friggin' least about international politics. Most are ignorant, plain and simple.

"Peaceful" Muslims have actually spoken out against the extremists, it's actually been reported in the media, but you have to look very closely. Also, what good does it do. This enemy cannot be detterred. What's the worst that's going to happen to them? Through their shahada, they believe they're going to find peace in the end. So dying to them, it isn't all that bad in their eyes.

TheDave
02-09-2006, 12:21 PM
So what do you guys think about the muslims living in the U.S. ?

Mile High Shack
02-09-2006, 12:23 PM
So what do you guys think about the muslims living in the U.S. ?

as long as they don't believe in the koran and killing all infidels, I'm fine with them

Requiem
02-09-2006, 12:23 PM
that's exactly it

the ones who accept us aren't true muslims

the only true muslim wants to see all nonbelievers either convert or dead....there is no in between

I'm willing to bet you don't know much about Islam, so you should be the last person to judge which "type" of Muslim accepts us as people. Just because a link is posted that shows some of what the Koran has to say; and the fact that many probably ignore some of those aspects make them "not true" Muslims?

Give me a break.

Do you have to believe everything in the Bible to be a true Christian?

Requiem
02-09-2006, 12:24 PM
as long as they don't believe in the koran and killing all infidels, I'm fine with them

Wow. LOL.

Mile High Shack
02-09-2006, 12:26 PM
I'm willing to bet you don't know much about Islam, so you should be the last person to judge which "type" of Muslim accepts us as people. Just because a link is posted that shows some of what the Koran has to say; and the fact that many probably ignore some of those aspects make them "not true" Muslims?

Give me a break.

Do you have to believe everything in the Bible to be a true Christian?

ummm
do you really want me to answer that, I think you already know the answer to that

Mile High Shack
02-09-2006, 12:27 PM
Wow. LOL.

show me where it says in the koran to love they neighbor as thyself?

mohammed sure didn't...you either converted or you were killed

TheDave
02-09-2006, 12:27 PM
as long as they don't believe in the koran and killing all infidels, I'm fine with them


How could they be a muslim and not believe in the Koran? Here is my point, you guys are saying "these people are evil" and "the ones who accept us aren't true muslims" but none of that is true. There are thousands of good muslims in this country that have never done anything but be good americans... so where is this all muslims are evil $hit coming from?

TheDave
02-09-2006, 12:28 PM
Do you have to believe everything in the Bible to be a true Christian?


I'm not touching that one !ROFL!

Mile High Shack
02-09-2006, 12:28 PM
How could they be a muslim and not believe in the Koran? Here is my point, you guys are saying "the fact these people are evil" and "the ones who accept us aren't true muslims" but none of that is true. There are thousands of good muslims in this country that have never done anything but be good americans... so where is this all muslims are evil $hit coming from?

b/c when it comes down to it, islam is not a religion of peace at all

those that say it is are wrong

Requiem
02-09-2006, 12:28 PM
ummm
do you really want me to answer that, I think you already know the answer to that

Since I'm not a Christian, I truly do not know the answer. But I'm sure under the impression that you do not have to follow your religion blindly to be a true Christian.

Requiem
02-09-2006, 12:30 PM
show me where it says in the koran to love they neighbor as thyself?

mohammed sure didn't...you either converted or you were killed

Pick up a Koran one day, read it, and you might see some of the things "peaceful" that Mohammed had said. For someone who has never even looked at the Koran, but will believe anything a website tells them; I guess I'll take what you say with a grain of salt.

Requiem
02-09-2006, 12:31 PM
b/c when it comes down to it, islam is not a religion of peace at all

those that say it is are wrong

A select few make that not so? Then what about the die hard Christians that bomb abortion clinics or commit crimes that are against what is stated in the Bible? Are they not true Christians? Hrm.

I'm going to love to see how you get out of this one.

Mile High Shack
02-09-2006, 12:31 PM
Pick up a Koran one day, read it, and you might see some of the things "peaceful" that Mohammed had said. For someone who has never even looked at the Koran, but will believe anything a website tells them; I guess I'll take what you say with a grain of salt.

I have read bits of hte koran

it's written by a person who was sick in the head b/c it rambles and doesn't have one coherent thought, it follows no pattern

in one instance you'll have it saying kill all infidels and the next chapter it will say to be peaceful

you can't have your cake and eat it too

it's either one or the other

Mile High Shack
02-09-2006, 12:32 PM
A select few make that not so? Then what about the die hard Christians that bomb abortion clinics or commit crimes that are against what is stated in the Bible? Are they not true Christians? Hrm.

I'm going to love to see how you get out of this one.

no they are not christians in the least

Jesus said to turn the other cheek

Mile High Shack
02-09-2006, 12:33 PM
Since I'm not a Christian, I truly do not know the answer. But I'm sure under the impression that you do not have to follow your religion blindly to be a true Christian.

you don't follow it blindly

you have free will

I don't follow it blindly, I question things all the time

but I do believe the entire bible is the inspired word of God, so yeah, I believe the whole thing

TheDave
02-09-2006, 12:36 PM
I'd like to take this moment to personally thank HotRod for starting the OM's own CyberJihad...thwack

Hotrod
02-09-2006, 12:38 PM
b/c when it comes down to it, islam is not a religion of peace at all

those that say it is are wrong

Bingo you simply need to look at the events in the M.E. to see they want nothing but war. Hell the Jews are currently giving them land for peace and so far all they have gotten in return is more threats from the religious leaders of the evil islam. They simply wish to destroy Israel and then America.

Peace loving my ass.

Requiem
02-09-2006, 12:39 PM
you don't follow it blindly

you have free will

I don't follow it blindly, I question things all the time

but I do believe the entire bible is the inspired word of God, so yeah, I believe the whole thing

Interesting how you have Free Will, yet you have to believe everything to be a true Christian. Boy, I cannot wait to tell my grandparents that they're not true Christians because they support gay marriage. Man, I hope my ol' pa doesn't beat me with his cane.

Requiem
02-09-2006, 12:40 PM
Bingo you simply need to look at the events in the M.E. to see they want nothing but war. Hell the Jews are currently giving them land for peace and so far all they have gotten in return is more threats from the religious leaders of the evil islam. They simply wish to destroy Israel and then America.

Peace loving my ass.

That's not all Muslims, but with a figure of Calvin pissing on PETA -- I can see where your failure to recognize such.

Hotrod
02-09-2006, 12:40 PM
I'd like to take this moment to personally thank HotRod for starting the OM's own CyberJihad...thwack

You know how I hate to stir the pot.

Im just happy I dont use the public transport system here in my home town. Ive prolly got a bounty on my head and seeing a terrorist explode a bomb on a haywagon is not a very pretty site Ha!

Mile High Shack
02-09-2006, 12:40 PM
Interesting how you have Free Will, yet you have to believe everything to be a true Christian. Boy, I cannot wait to tell my grandparents that they're not true Christians because they support gay marriage. Man, I hope my ol' pa doesn't beat me with his cane.

maybe if he did, you'd get some sense knocked into you :)^5 :thumbs:

Mile High Shack
02-09-2006, 12:41 PM
That's not all Muslims, but with a figure of Calvin pissing on PETA -- I can see where your failure to recognize such.

yeah PETA

the organization that thinks animals are more valuable than humans

Hotrod
02-09-2006, 12:41 PM
Interesting how you have Free Will, yet you have to believe everything to be a true Christian. Boy, I cannot wait to tell my grandparents that they're not true Christians because they support gay marriage. Man, I hope my ol' pa doesn't beat me with his cane.

If he was muslim he might cut off your hands and feet.

Requiem
02-09-2006, 12:41 PM
maybe if he did, you'd get some sense knocked into you :)^5 :thumbs:

I'm sorry, I'll try to have a narrow-minded, bigoted mind on Muslims from now on.

TheDave
02-09-2006, 12:41 PM
You know how I hate to stir the pot.



You did a hell of a job with this one!

Requiem
02-09-2006, 12:42 PM
If he was muslim he might cut off your hands and feet.

No, since he's Christian, he may just stone me.

Rascal
02-09-2006, 12:43 PM
I'm sorry, I'll try to have a narrow-minded, bigoted mind on Muslims from now on.

Throw in liberals while you're at it and you are on the path to heaven.

Hotrod
02-09-2006, 12:44 PM
No, since he's Christian, he may just stone me.

Is he I mean he does believe in Gay Marrage it may be a moot point.

Mile High Shack
02-09-2006, 12:44 PM
I'm sorry, I'll try to have a narrow-minded, bigoted mind on Muslims from now on.

finally

I was wondering what was taking you so long to call me a bigot since I think Islam is an evil relgion :) :peace:

Requiem
02-09-2006, 12:45 PM
Throw in liberals while you're at it and you are on the path to heaven.

You're absolutely right. It's amazing to see those who praise Christianity, turn out to be the most "un-Christ" like.

TheDave
02-09-2006, 12:45 PM
Just to give Requiem a little insight... These 2 are playing this off alot more hardcore than they really believe. I've been in a few tussles and as long as i admit I'm going to spend my eternity burning in hell for my beliefs (or lack thereof) we all seem to get along in the end...


and for Rascal, well, he's just a prick ;)

Requiem
02-09-2006, 12:45 PM
Is he I mean he does believe in Gay Marrage it may be a moot point.

Yeah man, I totally forgot. Since he believes gay people have the right to marry, he is definitely not a Christian. Shame on my ol' man.

Requiem
02-09-2006, 12:46 PM
finally

I was wondering what was taking you so long to call me a bigot since I think Islam is an evil relgion :) :peace:

You know what the Bible says about judging people, don't you?

Mile High Shack
02-09-2006, 12:47 PM
Just to give Requiem a little insight... These 2 are playing this off alot more hardcore than they really believe. I've been in a few tussles and as long as i admit I'm going to spend my eternity burning in hell for my beliefs (or lack thereof) we all seem to get along in the end...


and for Rascal, well, he's just a prick ;)

LOL

hey as long as your ok with frying, I'm ok with it

!Booya!

Requiem
02-09-2006, 12:47 PM
Just to give Requiem a little insight... These 2 are playing this off alot more hardcore than they really believe. I've been in a few tussles and as long as i admit I'm going to spend my eternity burning in hell for my beliefs (or lack thereof) we all seem to get along in the end...


and for Rascal, well, he's just a prick ;)
Thanks, but I've already figured that much out. I may be born again, but I wasn't born again yesterday.

Mile High Shack
02-09-2006, 12:47 PM
You know what the Bible says about judging people, don't you?

there is a difference between judging and using intelligence to decipher if something is evil or not :wiggle:

Rascal
02-09-2006, 12:49 PM
Just to give Requiem a little insight... These 2 are playing this off alot more hardcore than they really believe. I've been in a few tussles and as long as i admit I'm going to spend my eternity burning in hell for my beliefs (or lack thereof) we all seem to get along in the end...


and for Rascal, well, he's just a prick ;)

Show me in the Bible were it says I can't be a prick :)

Requiem
02-09-2006, 12:49 PM
there is a difference between judging and using intelligence to decipher if something is evil or not :wiggle:

I assume you're a grown up man and have the intelligence to find out in this thread, and throughout other posts in this place, that you have been judgemental towards Muslims.

TheDave
02-09-2006, 12:49 PM
Thanks, but I've already figured that much out. I may be born again, but I wasn't born again yesterday.

then my work is done...gotta get back to my pagan sacrifices!

Requiem
02-09-2006, 12:49 PM
Show me in the Bible were it says I can't be a prick :)

You sure know your Bible!

Rascal
02-09-2006, 12:50 PM
I assume you're a grown up man and have the intelligence to find out in this thread, and throughout other posts in this place, that you have been judgemental towards Muslims.

LOL

Rascal
02-09-2006, 12:50 PM
You sure know your Bible!

:thumbs:

Hotrod
02-09-2006, 12:53 PM
I assume you're a grown up man and have the intelligence to find out in this thread, and throughout other posts in this place, that you have been judgemental towards Muslims.

Shack judgemental Bwahahahahahaha

JPEZ
02-09-2006, 12:54 PM
Don't hate hotrod cause he speaks the truth! tsk tsk

Hotrod
02-09-2006, 01:00 PM
Don't hate hotrod cause he speaks the truth! tsk tsk

Quoted for truth ;D

Mile High Shack
02-09-2006, 01:02 PM
Shack judgemental Bwahahahahahaha

just b/c I think me and about 10 other people are going to heaven...that doesn't make me judgemental does it? :peace:

TheDave
02-09-2006, 01:16 PM
just b/c I think me and about 10 other people are going to heaven...that doesn't make me judgemental does it? :peace:

If the muslims turn out to be right... You are going to do some seriously hard time in heaven... Hilarious!

Hotrod
02-09-2006, 01:59 PM
just b/c I think me and about 10 other people are going to heaven...that doesn't make me judgemental does it? :peace:

Not as long as Im one of the 10 ;D

Hotrod
02-09-2006, 02:26 PM
http://www.faithfreedom.org/Gallery/29.htm

You just have to love these peaceful people.

Hotrod
02-09-2006, 02:30 PM
I personally like the one of the what 6 year old holding a sign that says "whomever insults a prophet...kill him"

Im really starting to understand why they are known as a peacefull people Ha!

Hotrod
02-09-2006, 02:32 PM
http://www.faithfreedom.org/Gallery/13.htm

One last one showing Israels so called 'partner for peace'

Requiem
02-09-2006, 02:32 PM
Most of them are.

Hotrod
02-09-2006, 02:37 PM
Most of them are.

Then maybe the "so called majority" should talk to their misguided buddys and explain to them that the koran is only joking when it tells them to kill Jews and christians whereever they can find them.

smalltowngrll
02-09-2006, 02:37 PM
I'm willing to bet you don't know much about Islam, so you should be the last person to judge which "type" of Muslim accepts us as people. Just because a link is posted that shows some of what the Koran has to say; and the fact that many probably ignore some of those aspects make them "not true" Muslims?

Give me a break.

Do you have to believe everything in the Bible to be a true Christian?


YES!

alkemical
02-09-2006, 02:40 PM
thank god vishnu isn't pissed off, think of the damage 8 arms could do

Requiem
02-09-2006, 02:40 PM
Then maybe the "so called majority" should talk to their misguided buddys and explain to them that the koran is only joking when it tells them to kill Jews and christians whereever they can find them.

We've already been through this before. The Bible says to do a lot of things as well, (that some would find wrong) but you're not arguing with that either.

Requiem
02-09-2006, 02:41 PM
YES!

I think ignorance has reached a new standard today.

Hotrod
02-09-2006, 02:45 PM
We've already been through this before. The Bible says to do a lot of things as well, (that some would find wrong) but you're not arguing with that either.

Why do you insist on changing the subject. If you want to start a thread about how evil todays Christian is go for it. I persoanlly wanted to discuss in this thread why do people think Islam is so peacefull when all we see is their acts of violance against woman/children and people just because their Jewish. Its right there in their 'holy' book they should not be friends with jews or christians and if they wont convert they should be killed. How is that a peaceful religion? By the words in their own book I guess the peaceful ones are sinners and will burn in hell? Nice religion.

Hotrod
02-09-2006, 02:46 PM
I think ignorance has reached a new standard today.

That was weak at best but as of yet you cant answer some of the basic questions in this thread so Im not surprised.

RaiderH8r
02-09-2006, 02:47 PM
I think ignorance has reached a new standard today.
There's one glaring, and too frequently overlooked, fundamental difference here and these "Cartoon Riots" are a great example.

We have our fair share of Christian nut jobs. Hell, it's the US, we have our fair share of nutjobs on just about any issue under the sun. Our nutjobs, like Islam's and the Middle East's, get upset when they are poked fun at. Let's face it, nutjobs are fun to poke fun at. Fine. Our nutjobs protest. ME nutjobs protest. Our nutjobs get violent, ME nutjobs get violent. OUR mainstream reigns in our nutjobs. Our mainstream marginalizes their violent activity and holds those responsible accountable. The ME mainstream is cowed in by the nutjobs, the nutjobs run the show. The ME mainstream makes an attempt to reign in the nutjobs and get their head put on a pike. The ME has no effective balance to the nutjobs and the minority of nutjobs hold the power. Step in the good ole US of A, slap the nutjobs down. Get power back into the hands of the mainstream in the hopes that they will sack up and get the willpower to begin to marginalize nutjob violence and prosecute those responsible and become a diplomatic player on the world stage.

Bottom line, we hold our nutjobs accountable. The ME does not and that is an issue for which they should be held accountable. If they lack the power to do it, fine. We'll help. If they lack the will to do it, fine, they're complicit and shall die alongside the nutjobs.

Give'em the BOOMSTICK.

RaiderH8r
02-09-2006, 02:50 PM
Why do you insist on changing the subject. If you want to start a thread about how evil todays Christian is go for it. I persoanlly wanted to discuss in this thread why do people think Islam is so peacefull when all we see is their acts of violance against woman/children and people just because their Jewish. Its right there in their 'holy' book they should not be friends with jews or christians and if they wont convert they should be killed. How is that a peaceful religion? By the words in their own book I guess the peaceful ones are sinners and will burn in hell? Nice religion.
Furthermore, if the anti-semitic rhetoric coming out of the Middle East were coming out of Alabama the US would be sending in the National Guard to thump the dipsh!ts. But, since we want to appease nutjobs, we're going to bargain with them on their own Palestinian state. WTF?

Requiem
02-09-2006, 02:52 PM
Why do you insist on changing the subject. If you want to start a thread about how evil todays Christian is go for it. I persoanlly wanted to discuss in this thread why do people think Islam is so peacefull when all we see is their acts of violance against woman/children and people just because their Jewish. Its right there in their 'holy' book they should not be friends with jews or christians and if they wont convert they should be killed. How is that a peaceful religion? By the words in their own book I guess the peaceful ones are sinners and will burn in hell? Nice religion.

Like I said, you don't even have a clue about Islam.

Requiem
02-09-2006, 02:52 PM
That was weak at best but as of yet you cant answer some of the basic questions in this thread so Im not surprised.

What questions haven't I answered? Please, please point them out.

Requiem
02-09-2006, 02:54 PM
Bottom line, we hold our nutjobs accountable. The ME does not and that is an issue for which they should be held accountable. If they lack the power to do it, fine. We'll help. If they lack the will to do it, fine, they're complicit and shall die alongside the nutjobs.

Give'em the BOOMSTICK.

Plenty of leaders in Islam condemn the fanatics, however, how can you stop someone who cannot be detterred? Really? These people aren't afraid to die for their cause, so what good does "trying to whip them into shape do" -- when it only creates more enemies.

RaiderH8r
02-09-2006, 03:00 PM
Plenty of leaders in Islam condemn the fanatics, however, how can you stop someone who cannot be detterred? Really? These people aren't afraid to die for their cause, so what good does "trying to whip them into shape do" -- when it only creates more enemies.
When "Plenty of leaders in Islam" decide to start acting on their condemnation instead of saying it I'll start to cut some slack.

Hotrod
02-09-2006, 03:04 PM
Plenty of leaders in Islam condemn the fanatics, however, how can you stop someone who cannot be detterred? Really? These people aren't afraid to die for their cause, so what good does "trying to whip them into shape do" -- when it only creates more enemies.

Why cant they be detterred??? Does it have anything to do with the fact that the only way in their religion to guarantee yourself a place in heavn is to either kill infidels or be killed while fighting the infidiels? If I had be brainwashed since birth like these folks to believe that I would prolly consider blowing myself up also. Gotta love people who teach their babys/children to kill and hate.

RaiderH8r
02-09-2006, 03:10 PM
Why cant they be detterred??? Does it have anything to do with the fact that the only way in their religion to guarantee yourself a place in heavn is to either kill infidels or be killed while fighting the infidiels? If I had be brainwashed since birth like these folks to believe that I would prolly consider blowing myself up also. Gotta love people who teach their babys/children to kill and hate.
Maybe they're grouchy because Allah only allows one ply toilet paper. That stuff really chaffs, and God help you if you've got hemmorroids.

Old Dude
02-09-2006, 03:17 PM
thank god vishnu isn't pissed off, think of the damage 8 arms could do

Dread Cthulhu could kick Vishnu's butt. So there.

Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn!

alkemical
02-09-2006, 03:29 PM
I dunno, if you know the right logos you can stop the cthulhu mythos monsters.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
02-09-2006, 03:45 PM
I just dont see the 'peaceful' side of these people I guess. Personally im pretty much over the whole "its just a few extreamists."

It's fairly easy, dude: Just compare the total number of Muslims in the world (hundreds of millions, I believe - I forgot the latest exact head count) to the comparatively small number who engage in criminal acts. :sunshine:

The MSM only focuses on the troublemakers - you never see all the people who just want to live their lives in peace like everybody else.

Hotrod
02-09-2006, 03:50 PM
It's fairly easy, dude: Just compare the total number of Muslims in the world (hundreds of millions, I believe - I forgot the latest exact head count) to the comparatively small number who engage in criminal acts. :sunshine:

The MSM only focuses on the troublemakers - you never see all the people who just want to live their lives in peace like everybody else.

But hold the phone their buddy if they "just want to live their lives in peace like everyone else" then by their own prophet's words they are infidels and should be killed and will burn in hell??? Which is it???

Old Dude
02-09-2006, 04:16 PM
I dunno, if you know the right logos you can stop the cthulhu mythos monsters.

only for awhile

alkemical
02-09-2006, 04:26 PM
only for awhile


if you like the chutulu mythos - i'm sure you've read lovecraft, but did you ever see john carpenter's "in the mouth of madness" - very well done

JPEZ
02-09-2006, 05:25 PM
thank god vishnu isn't pissed off, think of the damage 8 arms could do
That is a "G" in God bub! ;D

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
02-09-2006, 06:51 PM
That is a "G" in God bub! ;D

According to your convention, maybe, but not necessarily.

RaiderH8r
02-10-2006, 07:37 AM
It's fairly easy, dude: Just compare the total number of Muslims in the world (hundreds of millions, I believe - I forgot the latest exact head count) to the comparatively small number who engage in criminal acts. :sunshine:

The MSM only focuses on the troublemakers - you never see all the people who just want to live their lives in peace like everybody else.
The same should be said of Christians, Hindus, etc. Nutjobs make for good print. The old news adage, if it bleeds it leads.

RaiderH8r
02-10-2006, 07:39 AM
if you like the chutulu mythos - i'm sure you've read lovecraft, but did you ever see john carpenter's "in the mouth of madness" - very well done
In the mouth of madness is an awesome flick. And I know something about awesome flicks. Of course, it still falls way behind Army of Darkness and Big Trouble in Little China, but still a very good movie.

Hotrod
02-13-2006, 02:18 PM
Bump for my good buddy Requiem he mentioned to me how much he enjoyed some of my takes in this thread.........Ha!