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phibacka31
02-05-2006, 10:46 PM
I just want everyone's imput on what our plan this offseasin should be. I love the resigning of Nails he is the man. I now believe we need to sign lepsis and Warren. They both had a hell of a season and I believe we need to keep our oline together and Warren is one of the sweet spots to our dline, where we really don't have much. I than believe we need to get TO or Ricky. I would lean towards TO, but I would live with either. If we don't get Ricky, we need to give Dayne a shot next year, and also look to draft Lawernce Maroney. I like this kid. We need to add anohter BIG body in the middle of our dline. I would love to pick up someone ala free agency, but we need to draft dline also. We need a MONSTER d line for once, to take the pressure off our secondary. It's not their fault that pretty much every QB has a freakin hour to pick them apart.
We also need to add a few Oline through draft. Throw in a WR, DB, and LB, maybe even QB if right one falls in later rounds.
Give me your input, PLEASE!!

phibacka31
02-05-2006, 11:09 PM
I'm sure I;m not the only one with an opinion . I just like hearing what all of you guys have to say.

sirhcyennek81
02-05-2006, 11:14 PM
Defensive line is a solid, workman like group, who needs a pure speed rusher. Pryce and Brown are rounding back into shape, Meyers and Veal are good in the DT rotation, but we do need to resign Warren. I dont think our passrush was the issue. We had pass rush, did not always mean sacks, but it did get us 22 int's.

:Broncos:

SoCalBronco
02-05-2006, 11:15 PM
"It's all part of the Plan"

phibacka31
02-05-2006, 11:17 PM
I do agree, but do you really want to pay big money for pryce. He was invisible in some games. I do agree that we got tons of pressure, but against better olines we got picked apart, unless we brought the house. We need to get pressure with our front four, not LBs and company. I LOVE Warren, I also believe that Brwon looked better, but isn't he due some money. I also really like VEAl. I just believe we need to add more. Stockpile Talent and some up with a dominating Dline. Thank you for the post though

phibacka31
02-05-2006, 11:18 PM
Love the Pic Socal. What is your Idea of the ultimate Plan though? I love all of your input that i read everyday. Tell me what you think Socal.

WABronco
02-05-2006, 11:21 PM
Love the Pic Socal. What is your Idea of the ultimate Plan though? I love all of your input that i read everyday. Tell me what you think Socal.

Go check out the draft forum. There's a lot of good stuff scattered about in there...;)

sirhcyennek81
02-05-2006, 11:21 PM
Get rid of a 2 time probowl defensive end because he dissapeared from some games? He also dominated in others. Way it goes with all defensive linemen. This was a 13-3 team, it does not need a huge influx of new talent, just some tweaks.

:Broncos:

phibacka31
02-05-2006, 11:23 PM
I do go to the draft forum numerous times a day. Just wanted more than just rookie stuff. Draft is vital part, but I want to know about free agents that look appeassing to all and what now. I just love reading on the mane everyday, and I decided to become more involved. I am SOOOOOOO anxious for some signings and he draft.

phibacka31
02-05-2006, 11:25 PM
I wasn't trying to totally bash our Dline. I am saying we need tweaks not total new line. I also wonder if some of it has to do with the coaching ive heard that the line is supose to stay with their lineman so the LB can get through. If that is true, throw that out, go get the QB.

WABronco
02-05-2006, 11:27 PM
I do go to the draft forum numerous times a day. Just wanted more than just rookie stuff. Draft is vital part, but I want to know about free agents that look appeassing to all and what now. I just love reading on the mane everyday, and I decided to become more involved. I am SOOOOOOO anxious for some signings and he draft.

Ditto...

sirhcyennek81
02-05-2006, 11:28 PM
Our defense is run by a former linebacker coach. They are the playmakers. Everything on defense flows to our linebackers. Our dlinemen's job is to stop the run, get a push, thats it. I would love if the starting four netted 40 sacks, they didnt. I will take the 22 int's tho.

:Broncos:

labronx
02-05-2006, 11:29 PM
I just want everyone's imput on what our plan this offseasin should be. I love the resigning of Nails he is the man. I now believe we need to sign lepsis and Warren. They both had a hell of a season and I believe we need to keep our oline together and Warren is one of the sweet spots to our dline, where we really don't have much. I than believe we need to get TO or Ricky. I would lean towards TO, but I would live with either. If we don't get Ricky, we need to give Dayne a shot next year, and also look to draft Lawernce Maroney. I like this kid. We need to add anohter BIG body in the middle of our dline. I would love to pick up someone ala free agency, but we need to draft dline also. We need a MONSTER d line for once, to take the pressure off our secondary. It's not their fault that pretty much every QB has a freakin hour to pick them apart.
We also need to add a few Oline through draft. Throw in a WR, DB, and LB, maybe even QB if right one falls in later rounds.
Give me your input, PLEASE!!

Good post!

I would like to see TO, however, if we don't add a playmaking DE TO wont matter.

We need to move on without Pryce. The truth he hasn't been a difference maker for quite a while and he does seem to disapear in big games. I think we need more of a converted Safety and split time, lots of time with Lynch. Ferguson played well and he can hang around for one more year. Maybe Walls could have played safety.

Sometimes, I dont understand Shanny for example Dayne. He obviously is more consistent than Bell, yet for most of the second half of the season and the playoffs he kept going to Bell. Like a stuck abused girlfriend waiting for her man to change. Bell is what he is. HE all of a sudden is goint to get TD or MA type field vision? He just didnt have it this season maybe next it all comes together. Dayne showed allot better vision yet he never used him and he was fresh and rested.

Same thing with Walls he tried to make him a safety then changed him back to CB?

He did the same thing with Oneal.

Hes quit too quick on Dale Carter so how does he figure to handle TO?

He sometimes makes personel issues personal and reacts while he is hot headed.

my 2 cents.

phibacka31
02-05-2006, 11:31 PM
WAbronco is that DUKE. I love the pic if it is.I' also saying that I know that our LBs are the strong point, but on third and long we need on line to create pressure without the LBs.

phibacka31
02-05-2006, 11:34 PM
Thankx for the input Labrnx. I agree with the dominate DE meaning the most out of anything. Another I am thinking is a little bette oline. Im not bashing ours at all, but how sweet would it be to have one or two more Nalen's on the team?

DB-Freak
02-05-2006, 11:34 PM
The pressure we created was because of the scheme not the players.

It's evident that our LB's aren't great pass rushers much as they are run stoppers and coverage guys.

BUt we had to roll with what we had.

We did a better line. Not just a bunch lumps and bodies out there.

sirhcyennek81
02-05-2006, 11:35 PM
Pressure was not the problem. We got pressure, we didnt get sacks. I would rather pressure the qb to throw a pick to bailey that gets returned for 101 yards then a sack and a possible FG attempt.

:Broncos:

phibacka31
02-05-2006, 11:38 PM
Did you see how Rothliberger lit us up though. That's on our dlines shoulders, it's their job to get to the QB. No excuses.

labronx
02-05-2006, 11:40 PM
the whole pressure thing is cool but sometimes just sometimes we need a sack a momentum changin type play.

sirhcyennek81
02-05-2006, 11:40 PM
Big Ben didnt light us up. We didnt tackle on 3rd and long.

:Broncos:

phibacka31
02-05-2006, 11:43 PM
I stand by my word of some new faces, but let's go on to someother positions. I think Brandon Browner, WILL play next year, and WILL make an input. I would Really love to get TO, even though he is a fruitcake;D

sirhcyennek81
02-05-2006, 11:45 PM
nothing wrong with fruitcake...

:Broncos:

phibacka31
02-05-2006, 11:47 PM
I'm taking that as you really wouldn't mind TO? What are your thoughts on our WRs( David Terrel, Adams, Devoe) and Browner, I really like Brandon. I watched him A LOT in college.

sirhcyennek81
02-05-2006, 11:54 PM
Adams and Devoe are developing nicely, will they be future rod smith's? i dunno. David Terrell was a 1st round pick. the talent is there for him to succeed, he just has to want to. In the few bits i have read about him, he says he has learned more this year about being a pro then he did in his previous 3 years. Impressive, i think. I have not seen enough of browner to have an opinion, so i will wait for that one. As for TO, he is a phenomenal talent, who might fit in perfectly here. The onus is not squarely on him to carry a passing game or an offense, he would just be one of 11 pieces. If he became a bronco, i would love him just as much as i love any other bronco.

:Broncos:

Billy Clyde Puckett
02-06-2006, 06:15 AM
As usual there is a lot of love for unproven players like Duke, Browner, Devoe, etc. I would like them to deveop into the "next Rod" as much as anyone, but chances are slim.

DL is patchwork that was lucky to hold together through the year. Ol is thin. WR is even thinner.

Draft - 2 DL, 2 OL, 2 pass receivers(WR and/or pass receiving TE), a rb would be nice and maybe a developmental QB if the right guy falls in their lap.

FA - Safety, WR and depth at LB.

kappys
02-06-2006, 06:36 AM
Gear up for a make or break SB year

Sign TO and pray that he gies us one season before he mouths off

Sign Ricky Williams and pray he gives up one more seasons before he lights up

REsign Lepsis and Warren

Use our top 2 picks on speed rushing DE's and hope they pan out at least for obvious passing downs.

This way it SB or bust. Following a SB victory - Rod retires, TO complains, Ricky gets stoned, Nalen retires and we have to start a bit o rebuilding.

BroncoBen
02-06-2006, 06:52 AM
The Broncos need to draft a pass rushing defensive end (which are hard to come by), someone who can get after the QB. They have enough run stoppers.

Then draft a safety that can cover, Lynch is not getting any younger. Someone who can play some this season and contribute on 3rd downs.

Then draft for depth, offensive line, running back, linebacker.

This years draft is suppose to be weak at wide receiver, so this is where I think bringing in TO would be huge.

Ricky Williams is an option at upgrading the RB position, but I think he would cost too much.

broncsyanks
02-06-2006, 08:07 AM
ok 1st thing is sign TO

Then restructure a few players contracts with low incentives so they get there money and it doesnt count aginst the cap before the season starts.
IE : Champ etc.

CUT Courney Brownnand a few others a necesssity to get under the cap and then resign warren a must

Now the draft--
Defense and a QB
defense more DB'c and a pass rush. probably will be a safety

NO MORE RUNNING BACKS!!
let me reiterate:

NO MORE RUNNING BACKS!!

we have enough of them we need to open up a passing game and stop being 1 dimendional. we are starting to look like baltimore with no passing game and a defense

Elway777
02-06-2006, 08:46 AM
Resign Warren and Lepsis . Trade a 3 round pick for Ricky Williams .Trade next year second for Greg Ellis. Ellis wants to go to a 4-3 team. Sign Joe jurivesius to be our 3 receiver. Sign another speed rusher like John Abraham , Darren Howard ,or Von Bosch .

Rascal
02-06-2006, 09:07 AM
Can we afford Greg Ellis? Isn't his contract similar to Pryce's?

IMO Joe Jurevicius is too slow.

Old Dude
02-06-2006, 09:16 AM
Re-sign Warren & Lepsis.
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I think the secondary will be self-improved next year as Darrent Williams, Paymah, Foxworth & Cox all have another season under their belt. I expect at least one of those guys to step it up a notch.

We still need to improve the pass rush, though. Best bet for a quick fix is to grab a DE from a team making a transition to a 3-4. If not a F/A, then this should be our top priority in the draft.

Second priority is to improve the receiving corps. Rod Smith is the only consistent weapon there, and the clock is ticking. If possible, I'm inclined to go with a F/A rather than the draft. Rookie WRs have a very high bust rate. I'd love to have Wayne or Owens (in that order) but I don't think we can afford either of them. After that, Brandon Lloyd and Deon Branch might be the next two best guys, but they could also be out of our range. Joe Jurevicius is a possibility.

If we can get Ricky Williams for a late third round pick, I guess he's worth a gamble, but I wouldn't get too excited about it. He'd be another decent RB in the RBBC rotation if he could stay off the weed.

~Crash~
02-06-2006, 09:24 AM
Can we afford Greg Ellis? Isn't his contract similar to Pryce's?

IMO Joe Jurevicius is too slow.

was eddie mac "slow":strong:

fontaine
02-06-2006, 09:32 AM
was eddie mac "slow":strong:

I'm pretty sure Eddie Mac ran around a 4.5 so no he's not slow.

So please can we stop the whole revisionist history thing, comparing a great WR to some schlub who looks good once or twice a season?