USS Cole Attack Planner Escapes

[elsid13]

Interpol: USS Cole Attack Planner Escapes 9 minutes ago

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060205/ap_on_re_mi_ea/interpol_yemen_escape

A man considered a mastermind of the USS Cole bombing that killed 17 soldiers in a Yemeni port in 2000 was among 23 people who escaped from a Yemen prison last week, Interpol said Sunday.

The international police agency issued an "urgent global security alert" for those who escaped Friday from the prison via a tunnel. It called the escapees "dangerous individuals."

A Yemen security official announced the escape Friday but did not provide details

[smalltowngrll]

I saw this on CNN on Saturday.

There are several things that are disturbing about this...

First, he escaped on Thursday, but there was no announcement made until Saturday?? Why? I would think this would be urgent information.

Second, this man has a history of escaping. He escaped another time, I believe in 2001. I'm not positive about the date, but I do know there is a history of escaping. So, with that in mind, wouldn't you think there would be that much more security where he is concerned?

Third, this escape is believed to have been an aided escape. So, this has been in the planning stages for some time, since there was a tunnel dug for this particular purpose.

Fourth, not only is the mastermind the one that escaped, but I believe there are a total of 23 and of that 23, 13 are known Al-Qaida fighters.

I find it interesting the timing of this escape to be shortly after Bin Ladan's last taped recording and threat.

So, my question is...what do you think the likelihood is that this escape might be linked to a planned attack on American Interests...whether on US soil or abroad?

Interesting....

[Old Dude]

... So, my question is...what do you think the likelihood is that this escape might be linked to a planned attack on American Interests...whether on US soil or abroad?

....

Very little.

If they have an attack planned, they'd probably plan to use people they already have planted wherever it is that they want to strike. Most of the agents used in 911, for example, were here for many months prior to the attack.

It wouldn't make much sense to make a plan depend on a successful escape attempt, because you'd just be increasing the chances that something would go wrong.

Whether the escapees are used in some future plan is a whole 'nother story.

[Bronx33]

Next time hes captured kill the POS then you don't have to worry about the savage escaping anymore.:thumbsup:

[El Guapo]

Next time hes captured kill the POS then you don't have to worry about the savage escaping anymore.:thumbsup:
exactly.


from what I understand the tunnel was only about 145 meters long and this guy was met by some coherts half way. so that means someone had to start digging about 60 meters away from the prison, no one saw this guy digging??? maybe there was a house or something nearby but this is ridiculous. . . especially since soo many escaped.

[elsid13]

Remember it was in Yemen, the definition of 3rd world country.

[smalltowngrll]

Very little.

If they have an attack planned, they'd probably plan to use people they already have planted wherever it is that they want to strike. Most of the agents used in 911, for example, were here for many months prior to the attack.

It wouldn't make much sense to make a plan depend on a successful escape attempt, because you'd just be increasing the chances that something would go wrong.

Whether the escapees are used in some future plan is a whole 'nother story.

Good Point! Something I didn't think through...

[defenseman]

this guy needs to be killed evading recapture. No question about it.

[smalltowngrll]

exactly.


from what I understand the tunnel was only about 145 meters long and this guy was met by some coherts half way. so that means someone had to start digging about 60 meters away from the prison, no one saw this guy digging??? maybe there was a house or something nearby but this is ridiculous. . . especially since soo many escaped.

That's what I read, also. From my understanding the tunnel led to a Mosque...so, that would be why noone saw the digging. Not to mention...maybe noone really cared!

I'm with the whole death penalty thing...if you choose to be a terrorist...you die if we catch you! No hope of "rehabilitating" a terrorist...so, why let them live only to plot again!

[rbackfactory80]

Yeah and their are a million others out there, he just one of the millions willing to kill himself to hurt our country.

[enjolras]

I'm with the whole death penalty thing...if you choose to be a terrorist...you die if we catch you! No hope of "rehabilitating" a terrorist...so, why let them live only to plot again!

I'm assuming this is after a trial with due process and the like. We are still Americans after all.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Leave us not forget how Bush crony Barbara Bodine (then U.S. ambassador to Yemen) allowed this POS and his pals to slip away after (and ignored warnings prior to) the Cole bombing...

(FBI agent John) O'Neill again was the focus of a heated political battle over the investigation of the 2000 attack against the USS Cole in Yemen. Current and former government officials such as Richard Clarke, counterterrorism chief in the Clinton administration and Barry Mawn, former head of the New York FBI office, recount how O'Neill's desire to show the Yemeni security forces -- which he viewed as being less than cooperative -- that the FBI meant business was one of many issues in the investigation which angered U.S. Ambassador Barbara Bodine.

Finally, when O'Neill made a brief trip home to New York for Thanksgiving, Bodine denied his re-entry visa, preventing him from returning to the investigation. Insiders tell FRONTLINE that O'Neill's removal from the scene in Yemen may have seriously limited the Cole investigation -- an inquiry that some speculate might have led O'Neill to the Sept. 11 hijackers in time to foil their plans.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/knew/etc/synopsis.html

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/knew/

In October of 2000, after entering the Port of Aden off the coast of Yemen, the USS Cole was hit by suicide bomber. The blast killed 17 and injured 35 Americans. O'Neill was sent over to investigate, as head of the FBI team. Accompanying O'Neill to Yemen were over 100 FBI agents, laboratory experts and forensics specialists, as well as FBI Director Louis J. Freeh. From the earliest moments of the investigation, O'Neill was sure Bin Laden was responsible. However, from the start, his efforts to work the case were sabotaged by US ambassador to Yemen, Barbara Bodine. Bodine refused to cooperate in the investigation or to encourage Yemenis to cooperate. Despite repeated death threats against agents, she refused to allow them to carry the type of weapons O'Neill considered adequate. O'Neill reportedly called Louis Freeh in the middle of the night once expressing anxiety about the safety of his men. The clash between O'Neill and Bodine went steadily from bad to worse, peaking when Bodine publicly called O'Neill a liar. Incredibly, Bodine claimed that through her actions, she was merely trying to keep diplomatic relations running smoothly.

But a look at Ms. Bodine's history suggests a very different motivation. Throughout her career, Barbara Bodine has served primarily under rightwing old boys and in areas where the oil interests of said old boys are being furthered. Under Reagan, she served as Deputy Principle Officer in Baghdad, Iraq. Under Bush, Sr., she served as Deputy Chief of Mission in Kuwait and was there during the Gulf War. She has also worked for Bob Dole, and far more ominously, for Henry Kissinger. So, in 2000 we find her in Yemen, and though a Clinton appointee, impeding the Clinton administration's efforts to conduct an investigation of a crime of terrorism in which the chief suspect is the son of a Bush family business associate.

What makes Bodine's actions toward O'Neill particularly indefensible is that there is credible evidence that she herself was to blame, at least in part, for the Cole disaster. Kie Fallis, a Defense Intelligence Agency counterterrorism analyst, had issued a report before the disaster, warning of the danger of just such an attack in Yemen. As it turned out, the report was suppressed by senior DIA officials, and by Bodine and Gen. Anthony Zinn, who decided to allow the Cole to enter the Port under the lowest grade of security permitted in the Middle East — though they were both aware of the warning. Fallis quit in protest the day after the bombing.

The report Fallis refers to was "officially" issued six hours after the attack by the NSA. The report said terrorists were known to be actively engaged in "operational planning" for an attack and had traveled to Dubai and Beirut in preparation for this attack. Yet, on Oct 29, senior intelligence officials issued a statement claiming that the warnings they had received were too vague to have justified issuing a stronger alert.

Sound familiar?

http://www.unknownnews.net/cdd052402.html

[24champ]

playing the blame game already LABF?

[24champ]

I'm assuming this is after a trial with due process and the like. We are still Americans after all.
Why waste more tax money on these jackoffs who seek to kill americans?

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

playing the blame game already LABF?

Gee, you're right - what was I thinking?

Barbara Bodine should get a pass for ignoring warnings about the Cole bombing and for doing everything she could to sabotage the subsequent investigation by the F.B.I.

{/sarcasm}

[24champ]

Gee, you're right - what was I thinking?

Barbara Bodine should get a pass for ignoring warnings about the Cole bombing and for doing everything she could to sabotage the subsequent investigation by the F.B.I.

{/sarcasm}
I never said give her a pass, I do think she got in the way of the investigation but then you could look at the response to the attack and you could start blaming people for a crappy response. Either way it doesnt do anyone good.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

I never said give her a pass, I do think she got in the way of the investigation but then you could look at the response to the attack and you could start blaming people for a crappy response. Either way it doesnt do anyone good.

This is the part that bothers me the most:

Finally, when O'Neill made a brief trip home to New York for Thanksgiving, Bodine denied his re-entry visa, preventing him from returning to the investigation. Insiders tell FRONTLINE that O'Neill's removal from the scene in Yemen may have seriously limited the Cole investigation -- an inquiry that some speculate might have led O'Neill to the Sept. 11 hijackers in time to foil their plans.

Any American who reads this and doesn't get pissed and demand accountability is just putting party before country, IMO.

http://www.bartcop.com/caravan-WH-impeach.jpg

[24champ]

This is the part that bothers me the most:



Any American who reads this and doesn't get pissed and demand accountability is just putting party before country, IMO.


I understand that but the story has too many "insiders" and sources. I would like to hear Bodines response to this. If she has one. Im not familiar with ambassadors but can the president remove an abassador or what?

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

I understand that but the story has too many "insiders" and sources. I would like to hear Bodines response to this. If she has one. Im not familiar with ambassadors but can the president remove an abassador or what?

There should be a comprehensive, independent investigation into how and why she sabotaged the Cole investigation, why the DIA report was suppressed, etc.

Oh wait - no one got a blowjob.

No investigation needed. My bad.

[Spider]

What gets me is , there are people actually shocked by this .............Yemen a country that struggles to keep Ice cream frozen , is expected to keep these al qadea dicks lockedup ......... Geee what went wrong I wonder

[smalltowngrll]

I'm assuming this is after a trial with due process and the like. We are still Americans after all.

Well, my pissed off side says, kill the bastard...:redpunch:

But, my reality side says yes, after trial and making sure we really do have the right person/people!

[smalltowngrll]

There should be a comprehensive, independent investigation into how and why she sabotaged the Cole investigation, why the DIA report was suppressed, etc.

Oh wait - no one got a blowjob.

No investigation needed. My bad.

So your point is?? the reality is...yes, maybe so....

but, that doesn't change the fact that this thread is about the escape of the a$$hole that did this! He's a free man at the moment...you can only live in the past for so long until it's time to move forward and deal with where things are NOW.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

So your point is?? the reality is...yes, maybe so....

but, that doesn't change the fact that this thread is about the escape of the a$$hole that did this! He's a free man at the moment...you can only live in the past for so long until it's time to move forward and deal with where things are NOW.

Whenever evidence of BushCo incompetence or criminality is presented, the response is always the same, isn't it?

"Move along, folks - nothing to see here."

"Let's not play the blame game."

"No use in living in the past."

The articles I posted address the a$$hole responsible for the attack as well.

It's not my fault that you don't want to acknowledge inconvenient facts, i.e., that another Bush family crony was instrumental in letting him get away the first time.

BTW, when the discussion turns to the question of who was responsible for the security failures that made 9/11 possible, watch how fast your right-wing friends on this board start "living in the past."

[24champ]

There should be a comprehensive, independent investigation into how and why she sabotaged the Cole investigation, why the DIA report was suppressed, etc.

Oh wait - no one got a blowjob.

No investigation needed. My bad.
you didnt really answer my question. Can an Ambassador be removed by the president?

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

you didnt really answer my question. Can an Ambassador be removed by the president?

I can't think of any instance in which this has happened.

Maybe others can.