Bradlee Van Pelt

[fountelway]

Anyone know why bradlee isn't going to play in NFLE??? I would think he would be able to get some game experience under his belt. Does anyone know who the players from the broncos that are going to NFLE this year?

[watermock]

Because he needs to maintain the Bradley Van Pelt radiation barrier...

[eddie mac]

Anyone know why bradlee isn't going to play in NFLE??? I would think he would be able to get some game experience under his belt. Does anyone know who the players from the broncos that are going to NFLE this year?

I'd say it's because he's the No2 QB, cant ever remember an NFL team sending a No2 QB to NFL Europe.

[crazyhorse]

Anyone know why bradlee isn't going to play in NFLE??? I would think he would be able to get some game experience under his belt. Does anyone know who the players from the broncos that are going to NFLE this year?

I think because they actually use the forward pass in NFLE, BVP was likely rejected by the league.

Theres only so many opportunities to run a QB sneak. Even in the NFLEL

[Drek]

Anyone know why bradlee isn't going to play in NFLE??? I would think he would be able to get some game experience under his belt. Does anyone know who the players from the broncos that are going to NFLE this year?
The biggest thing Bradlee needs is to learn the offense, not see game time. He's almost definately our #2 QB next year, we can't risk him getting hurt or developing bad habits in NFLE under some other random coach's supervision.

The best thing Bradlee can do is to stay in Denver and do what Jake Plummer did last season, study, study study. He needs to know the playbook in and out by the start of next season.

[fountelway]

thanks for all the smart ass replies. but after i thought about it i think only practice sqaud players can go.

[Billy Clyde Puckett]

There are rules about who can go, but I think Drek's explanation is what the coaches said last year. They thought his development could be better served by staying in Denver and working with the coaches here.

[Atlas]

Anyone know why bradlee isn't going to play in NFLE??? I would think he would be able to get some game experience under his belt.
Shanny thinks that his QBs are better served staying with the team in the offseason. It's better to stay and master Denver's playbook than to go to Europe and play. I can't say I blame him.

[crazyhorse]

Shanny thinks that his QBs are better served staying with the team in the offseason. It's better to stay and master Denver's playbook than to go to Europe and play. I can't say I blame him.

After Jakes 1st couple mistake filled years with Denver, doesn't the playbook consist of 10 plays or so? Shanny dumbed it down so much that even Plummer couldn't **** it up.

It would seem that even BVP could master that playbook by noon or so. And that dude aint so bright.

[fontaine]

After Jakes 1st couple mistake filled years with Denver, doesn't the playbook consist of 10 plays or so? Shanny dumbed it down so much that even Plummer couldn't **** it up.

It would seem that even BVP could master that playbook by noon or so. And that dude aint so bright.

I don't think limiting the amount of pass attempts necessarily equates to dumbing down the playbook.

For example: For each game Turner and Shanahan usually only come with a dozen or so running plays because that's what they believe will work and they recycle the most effective running plays out of that bunch during the game and come up with another 12 or so running plays tailored for the next team's defense etc. That doesn't mean they're "dumbing" down the running game.

[crazyhorse]

I don't think limiting the amount of pass attempts necessarily equates to dumbing down the playbook.

For example: For each game Turner and Shanahan usually only come with a dozen or so running plays because that's what they believe will work and they recycle the most effective running plays out of that bunch during the game and come up with another 12 or so running plays tailored for the next team's defense etc. That doesn't mean they're "dumbing" down the running game.

When you have to cut the playbook down so that a player can run the offense efficiently, that is dumbing down the playbook. IMO

[Needa Pass Rush]

thanks for all the smart ass replies. but after i thought about it i think only practice sqaud players can go.


See Wesley Duke. :wiggle:

http://cbs4denver.com/sports/local_story_031143424.html

[Mile High Shack]

I don't think limiting the amount of pass attempts necessarily equates to dumbing down the playbook.

For example: For each game Turner and Shanahan usually only come with a dozen or so running plays because that's what they believe will work and they recycle the most effective running plays out of that bunch during the game and come up with another 12 or so running plays tailored for the next team's defense etc. That doesn't mean they're "dumbing" down the running game.

apparently they dumb down the offense for such guys as Tom Brady and Ben Rothelesburger too

since when these qbs average about 20 passes a game, they have a huge winning %

[RhymesayersDU]

If BVP went to Europe, he wouldn't be able to hang out at the DU bars...

[dbfan4life]

I thought Darius Watts would have been a good candidate to send. He obviously had confidence problems early in the season and never made it back in the good graces of Shanahan. A season overseas would have only helped.

[2KBack]

I thought the same thing, but with a New OC and Dinger coming in, I think it might be better for BVP to get aquianted with the guys that are controlling his position now. The coaching changed could easily effect BVP more than anyone.

[Victor]

After Jakes 1st couple mistake filled years with Denver, doesn't the playbook consist of 10 plays or so? Shanny dumbed it down so much that even Plummer couldn't **** it up.

It would seem that even BVP could master that playbook by noon or so. And that dude aint so bright.

Is this the best you can do? Your smack is lame, as usual. This is sixth grade playground stuff.

By the way, my dad can beat up your dad.

[crazyhorse]

Is this the best you can do? Your smack is lame, as usual. This is sixth grade playground stuff.

By the way, my dad can beat up your dad.

When is an accurate statement smack?

By the way, my dad is Chuck Norris.

[Merlin]

After Jakes 1st couple mistake filled years with Denver, doesn't the playbook consist of 10 plays or so? Shanny dumbed it down so much that even Plummer couldn't **** it up.

It would seem that even BVP could master that playbook by noon or so. And that dude aint so bright.
They could dumb it down to two plays (run and NBL), and KC would still get its a$$ spanked in Denver. BTW, by what has happened thus far this off-season, it would seem Vermeal was not the source of your D's incompetence.

[crazyhorse]

They could dumb it down to two plays (run and NBL), and KC would still get its a$$ spanked in Denver. BTW, by what has happened thus far this off-season, it would seem Vermeal was not the source of your D's incompetence.

Given the two play offense, how long do you think it will take for BVP to learn it? Two seasons. Or will it take 3, like "The Snake"?

[Victor]

When is an accurate statement smack?

By the way, my dad is Chuck Norris.

Your banality is exceeded only by your banality.

[2KBack]

Given the two play offense, how long do you think it will take for BVP to learn it? Two seasons. Or will it take 3, like "The Snake"?


Awwww, your just upset that Jake threw more TD but fewer Int's than Trent Green this season. I understand, it's okay.

[Merlin]

Given the two play offense...
Actually, they could reduce the play calling in Denver to just the NBL and the KC D would still play the Run. Whatever hair you had left I am sure you lost it watching KC's last spectacle in Denver.

[Orange_Beard]

His throwing is really bad. He makes (well I can't think of his name, that guy from ND who was on and off the roster) look like a player.

He needs to work on his throwing. If it needs to be in Europe then that is where needs to be.

At this point NOTHING is being risked by sending him to Europe.
He can't play QB in the NFL.

I know I am wrong, Shanny knows better, he has seen him. Don't forget Shanny gave Griese a boat load of money. Also Plummer, who is not a superstar is getting superstar money.

[Rock Chalk]

After Jakes 1st couple mistake filled years with Denver, doesn't the playbook consist of 10 plays or so? Shanny dumbed it down so much that even Plummer couldn't **** it up.

It would seem that even BVP could master that playbook by noon or so. And that dude aint so bright.
First couple?

7 interceptions, 20 interceptions, 7 interceptions.

Looks like one mistake filled year to me.

[2KBack]

His throwing is really bad. He makes (well I can't think of his name, that guy from ND who was on and off the roster) look like a player.

He needs to work on his throwing. If it needs to be in Europe then that is where needs to be.

At this point NOTHING is being risked by sending him to Europe.
He can't play QB in the NFL.

I know I am wrong, Shanny knows better, he has seen him. Don't forget Shanny gave Griese a boat load of money. Also Plummer, who is not a superstar is getting superstar money.

Plummer is not making superstar money, especially not after restructuring last year. I gaurantee he was the lowest paid QB in the AFC playoffs. As for BVP, You sure are quick to give up on a great athlete working hard to get better.

[Orange_Beard]

No Doubt BVP is a great athlete.

Quick to give up? He has had 2 years.
He was sooooooooo bad in the Chargers game. A game with no pressure(to win or lose)

I have not give up on the guy, but based on what I have seen he has not improved enough to play in the NFL.

He simply can not throw.

[2KBack]

No Doubt BVP is a great athlete.

Quick to give up? He has had 2 years.
He was sooooooooo bad in the Chargers game. A game with no pressure(to win or lose)

I have not give up on the guy, but based on what I have seen he has not improved enough to play in the NFL.

He simply can not throw.

He only attempted like 8 passes in that game, he did the smart thing, he looked for the pass, if he wasn't sure, he ran. People forget the first downs he picked up with his legs, and he didn't throw any ill advised passes to be intercepted.

[Orange_Beard]

Did you see the game? He was 2-8 with 7 yards. ( One pass was dropped by a defender)

I don't see how you can defend his performance. He is not a rookie. He is a #2 QB with 2 years experience. He had a chance and was really bad.

What makes you think he will be an NFL QB? What have you seen?

I will give you that he plays hard, GREAT compeditor.
But he just can't seem to throw.

[Drek]

Did you see the game? He was 2-8 with 7 yards. ( One pass was dropped by a defender)

I don't see how you can defend his performance. He is not a rookie. He is a #2 QB with 2 years experience. He had a chance and was really bad.

What makes you think he will be an NFL QB? What have you seen?

I will give you that he plays hard, GREAT compeditor.
But he just can't seem to throw.
Dude, he threw eight passes in rain during an ass whooping. I don't think that qualifies as a worthwhile sample size.

What we did see in the SD game is that 1) his size and speed are effective at the NFL level, even against one of the better 3-4 D's (which normally do well to neutralize running QBs). 2) he's got a lot of studying to do before he knows the playbook well enough to do well in the passing game and therefore be a capable backup/spot starter.

BVP is a project, but one that is learning our system and showing promise. As long as Jake keeps winning games here we can afford to keep BVP as the #2.

[elsid13]

I won't judging BVP's career potential on one game in the rain. Shanahan knows how he looked in practice and that count for a lot. What Denver needs to do it get another QB who can run the scout team and let BVP focus on being the back-up.

[Orange_Beard]

Dude, he threw eight passes in rain during an ass whooping. I don't think that qualifies as a worthwhile sample size.

What we did see in the SD game is that 1) his size and speed are effective at the NFL level, even against one of the better 3-4 D's (which normally do well to neutralize running QBs). 2) he's got a lot of studying to do before he knows the playbook well enough to do well in the passing game and therefore be a capable backup/spot starter.

BVP is a project, but one that is learning our system and showing promise. As long as Jake keeps winning games here we can afford to keep BVP as the #2.


You are kidding right? Do you really want a project 1 snap from running the team?
How long do running QB's last in the NFL?
When was the last time a "run first" QB won the Superbowl?


Look I love the way that the guy plays, let him return punts and kickoffs.

He can study all he wants, He can't throw.

What I saw in the SD had nothing to do with knowing the playbook.

Let me ask you this, Jake gets a knee twisted in the opner next year. How are we going to do with BVP at QB?

[Orange_Beard]

I won't judging BVP's career potential on one game in the rain. Shanahan knows how he looked in practice and that count for a lot. What Denver needs to do it get another QB who can run the scout team and let BVP focus on being the back-up.


I bet Griese had some great pratices.

If you are not going to judge him on how he "plays in one game" what are you going to judge him on?

[BroncoSoja]

After Jakes 1st couple mistake filled years with Denver, doesn't the playbook consist of 10 plays or so? Shanny dumbed it down so much that even Plummer couldn't **** it up.


This would be funny if it wasnt true...But no we dont need to look for a real QB that can actually call audibles and take control of the game and not make mistakes if he tries to chew bubble gum and pass to the TE.

[crazyhorse]

First couple?

7 interceptions, 20 interceptions, 7 interceptions.

Looks like one mistake filled year to me.

You must be new to the board.

After Plummers 1st season with the Donks, all I heard here on this board was how much better he would be after 1 year in the offense. In fact, Plummer said it himself. The after year 2 he said he would be better after 2 years in the offense. Then year 3 came along.

Shanny just cut down the playobook and viola, Jake is a probowler. Kinda funny, huh?

[Orange_Beard]

You must be new to the board.

After Plummers 1st season with the Donks, all I heard here on this board was how much better he would be after 1 year in the offense. In fact, Plummer said it himself. The after year 2 he said he would be better after 2 years in the offense. Then year 3 came along.

Shanny just cut down the playobook and viola, Jake is a probowler. Kinda funny, huh?


He had a fine year, lead the Broncos to the AFC champ game.
I don't think the Chiefs made the playoffs.

[Pat Bowlen]

After Plummers 1st season with the Donks, all I heard here on this board was how much better he would be after 1 year in the offense. In fact, Plummer said it himself. The after year 2 he said he would be better after 2 years in the offense. Then year 3 came along.

Shanny just cut down the playobook and viola, Jake is a probowler. Kinda funny, huh?
The ends justify the means sometimes. Funny how you aren't making fun of the results at all.

[Orange_Beard]

Matter of fact I am sure they stayed home to beat there wives.

[Billy Clyde Puckett]

If BVP improves as much this winter as he did last he will throw better than Michael Vick and be a smarter QB.

[Ray Finkle]

This would be funny if it wasnt true...But no we dont need to look for a real QB that can actually call audibles and take control of the game and not make mistakes if he tries to chew bubble gum and pass to the TE.

How clever you are! Jake never made audibles?...funny how posters give examples but you ignore those and post the same crap in other threads....:thumbs:

[crazyhorse]

The ends justify the means sometimes. Funny how you aren't making fun of the results at all.

On the contrary. I was making fun of the result in fan perspective.

As far as making fun of the results on the field, I dont. However you should know that I dont see Plummer accomplishing anything as much as I see Shanny keeping Plummer from pissing on his own shoes.

But alas, he looked like the Snake in the playoffs. MVP? uhhhhhh......yeah.ROFL!

[ludo21]

BVP is better off staying here and playing with our guys, besides i dont think he can go anymore.

[BroncoSoja]

How clever you are! Jake never made audibles?...funny how posters give examples but you ignore those and post the same crap in other threads....:thumbs:
Hell no he doesnt make audibles and I have no idea what examples your talking about. Link? Vids?

There are no vids of Plummer calling audibles (his own audibles like other QB's do) and not someting that was called by the coaches. But hell he is a bubbling fumbling INT machine who has to have a Offense for dummies installed for him so he doesnt throw to the Refs..... But like I said we dont need to draft or bring another QB in here, we have a Pro Bowler in Plummer(ROFL) and Van Pelt......No wonder why Owens wants to come here, the prospect of Plummer or Van Pelt throwing to him must make him drool....


I wonder what the odds in Vegas are of Plummer throwing a INT in the Pro Bowl.

[Northman]

First couple?

7 interceptions, 20 interceptions, 7 interceptions.

Looks like one mistake filled year to me.


You got to dumb down your posts alec so that Crazylegs can keep up. :thumbs:

[ludo21]

Hell no he doesnt make audibles and I have no idea what examples your talking about. Link? Vids?

There are no vids of Plummer calling audibles (his own audibles like other QB's do) and not someting that was called by the coaches. But hell he is a bubbling fumbling INT machine who has to have a Offense for dummies installed for him so he doesnt throw to the Refs..... But like I said we dont need to draft or bring another QB in here, we have a Pro Bowler in Plummer(ROFL) and Van Pelt......No wonder why Owens wants to come here, the prospect of Plummer or Van Pelt throwing to him must make him drool....


I wonder what the odds in Vegas are of Plummer throwing a INT in the Pro Bowl.


Bells TD in the Skins game was one example

[Ray Finkle]

Hell no he doesnt make audibles and I have no idea what examples your talking about. Link? Vids?

There are no vids of Plummer calling audibles (his own audibles like other QB's do) and not someting that was called by the coaches. But hell he is a bubbling fumbling INT machine who has to have a Offense for dummies installed for him so he doesnt throw to the Refs..... But like I said we dont need to draft or bring another QB in here, we have a Pro Bowler in Plummer(ROFL) and Van Pelt......


I wonder what the odds in Vegas are of Plummer throwing a INT in the Pro Bowl.
With this logic, there are no video's of Plummer taking a piss so therefore he doesn't pee....look at the game tape of Tatum's run against the skins....looks like Jake audibled to me...which proved you wrong in the other posts but jee wiz, that must have slipped your mind (thanks Ludi).

Oh and here is a quote from http://www.suntimes.com/output/telander/cst-spt-rick02.html

about a very good QB, who doesn't audible and his coach limits him doing so:

Seattle does it better

"It actually helps me to know that he doesn't want me to audible,'' Hasselbeck says. "There are other things that are more important to him than calling the perfect play.''

[BroncoSoja]

Wow you two got me, he did call A audible....... Im sorry im wrong, Plummer is a amazing QB I dont know what I was thinking when I said he makes horrible decisions (at Dallas, at KC, NE, PIT) in games that have meaning.. We are so lucky to have him at as our QB and having Van Pelt as his back up is possible the best #1 and #2 QB tandem in the NFL.

I just dont know where I got these ideas that Plummer doesnt call audibles as much as other QB's, when its obvious he calls just as many if not more then second year QB Roth from Pit does for example...I just dont know were I get these ideas that he has to have a offense dumbed down for him or his head will implode causing him to go color blind and throw to the opposing team.

Or maybe im right when I bash this fool who will never change and only hold this team back and choke in the big games and hurt this team more then helps it.

[Ray Finkle]

Wow you two got me, he did call A audible....... Im sorry im wrong, Plummer is a amazing QB I dont know what I was thinking when I said he makes horrible decisions (at Dallas, at KC, NE, PIT) in games that have meaning.. We are so lucky to have him at as our QB and having Van Pelt as his back up is possible the best #1 and #2 QB tandem in the NFL.

I just dont know where I got these ideas that Plummer doesnt call audibles as much as other QB's, when its obvious he calls just as many if not more then second year QB Roth from Pit does for example...I just dont know were I get these ideas that he has to have a offense dumbed down for him or his head will implode causing him to go color blind and throw to the opposing team.

Or maybe im right when I bash this fool who will never change and only hold this team back and choke in the big games and hurt this team more then helps it.


that is the first step;D

[Sodak]

When is an accurate statement smack?

By the way, my dad is Chuck Norris.

Then tell your dad to take that dead animal toupe off of his head. It looks like something crawled up there and died. He has obviously lost all of his dignity and none of his vanity...

[crazyhorse]

Then tell your dad to take that dead animal toupe off of his head. It looks like something crawled up there and died. He has obviously lost all of his dignity and none of his vanity...

When you say..."your dad", you should know that same dude is bangin' your mother.

You might be my sister.

Wanna git it on?

[elsid13]

From a football talk to school yard smack, in less then 50 posts.

[2KBack]

Wow you two got me, he did call A audible....... Im sorry im wrong, Plummer is a amazing QB I dont know what I was thinking when I said he makes horrible decisions (at Dallas, at KC, NE, PIT) in games that have meaning.. We are so lucky to have him at as our QB and having Van Pelt as his back up is possible the best #1 and #2 QB tandem in the NFL.

I just dont know where I got these ideas that Plummer doesnt call audibles as much as other QB's, when its obvious he calls just as many if not more then second year QB Roth from Pit does for example...I just dont know were I get these ideas that he has to have a offense dumbed down for him or his head will implode causing him to go color blind and throw to the opposing team.

Or maybe im right when I bash this fool who will never change and only hold this team back and choke in the big games and hurt this team more then helps it.

I am totally convinced that you didn't watch any games this year

[Sodak]

When you say..."your dad", you should know that same dude is bangin' your mother.

You might be my sister.

Wanna git it on?

Only a Chef fan could truly understand the complexities of a incestuous relationship...

[~Crash~]

Given the two play offense, how long do you think it will take for BVP to learn it? Two seasons. Or will it take 3, like "The Snake"?

LMAO I take it you are way smarter then andy reed you are a tool! oh and reed said it takes a QB 4 years in the west coast to be realy special but I fogot you be way to smart for the rest of us oh by the way your burgers are burning the costmers are going to be pissedROFL!

[~Crash~]

Did you see the game? He was 2-8 with 7 yards. ( One pass was dropped by a defender)

I don't see how you can defend his performance. He is not a rookie. He is a #2 QB with 2 years experience. He had a chance and was really bad.

What makes you think he will be an NFL QB? What have you seen?

I will give you that he plays hard, GREAT compeditor.

But he just can't seem to throw.

I take it you never seen the preseason !!!!also lmao why the hell would a guy coming of the bench do anything great oh I get it he was sapose to look like big ben teeeheee

[spdirty]

Side note...could you guys imagine what might happen if we get TO and Jake gets hurt, seeing what BVP would do if TO even attempted the crap he pulled on the sideline with Garcia and Donovan?

[yavoon]

Side note...could you guys imagine what might happen if we get TO and Jake gets hurt, seeing what BVP would do if TO even attempted the crap he pulled on the sideline with Garcia and Donovan?

ummmm what?!?!

[Sodak]

After a couple 56crash posts I will welcome Crazyhorse here any day.

[~Crash~]

After a couple 56crash posts I will welcome Crazyhorse here any day.

here is a fresh idea please put me on ignore I dont mind lesbo

[Sodak]

Habla Espanol?

[Orange_Beard]

I take it you never seen the preseason !!!!also lmao why the hell would a guy coming of the bench do anything great oh I get it he was sapose to look like big ben teeeheee


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