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Spider
01-26-2006, 07:23 PM
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Caitlin Childs, shown at an ACLU news conference



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The ACLU of Georgia released copies of government files on Wednesday that illustrate the extent to which the FBI, the DeKalb County Division of Homeland Security and other government agencies have gone to compile information on Georgians suspected of being threats simply for expressing controversial opinions.

Two documents relating to anti-war and anti-government protests, and a vegan rally, prove the agencies have been "spying" on Georgia residents unconstitutionally, the ACLU said. (Related: ACLU Complaint -- PDF file)

For example, more than two dozen government surveillance photographs show 22-year-old Caitlin Childs of Atlanta, a strict vegetarian, and other vegans picketing against meat eating, in December 2003. They staged their protest outside a HoneyBaked Ham store on Buford Highway in DeKalb County.

An undercover DeKalb County Homeland Security detective was assigned to conduct surveillance of the protest and the protestors, and take the photographs. The detective arrested Childs and another protester after he saw Childs approach him and write down, on a piece of paper, the license plate number of his unmarked government car.

"They told me if I didn't give over the piece of paper I would go to jail and I refused and I went to jail, and the piece of paper was taken away from me at the jail and the officer who transferred me said that was why I was arrested," Childs said on Wednesday.

The government file lists anti-war protesters in Atlanta as threats, the ACLU said. The ACLU of Georgia accuses the Bush administration of labeling those who disagree with its policy as disloyal Americans.

"We believe that spying on American citizens for no good reason is fundamentally un-American, that it's not the place of the goverment or the best use of resources to spy on its own citizens and we want it to stop. We want the spies in our government to pack their bags, close up their notebooks, take their cameras home and not engage in the spying anymore," Gerald Weber of the ACLU of Georgia said during a news conference.

"We have heard of not a single, government surveillance of a pro-war group," Weber said. "And I doubt we will ever hear of a single surveillance of a pro-war group."

The ACLU wants Congress and the courts to order government agencies, including the FBI, to stop unconstitutional surveillance.

Weber said the ACLU of Georgia may sue the government, in order to define, once and for all, what unconstitutional surveillance is in a post-911 America.

The FBI in Atlanta declined to comment. According to the Associated Press, FBI spokesman Bill Carter in Washington, D.C. said that all FBI investigations are conducted in response to information that the people being investigated were involved in or might have information about crimes.

As for Caitlin Childs' protest against meat eating, the files obtained by the ACLU include the DeKalb County Homeland Security report on the surveillance of Childs and the others. The detective wrote that he ordered Childs to give him the piece of paper on which she had written his license tag number, telling her that he did not want her or anyone else to have the tag number of his undercover vehicle.

The detective did not comment in his report about why his license tag number was already visible to the public.

The detective wrote that Childs was "hostile, uncooperative and boisterous toward the officers."
Childs said today that the agents shouldn't have been there in the first place, squelching legal dissent.

"We have the right to gather and protest and speak out."

(The Associated Press contributed to this report.)

enjolras
01-26-2006, 08:11 PM
You're right. I can't prove that the federal government is not listening in on conversations to a friend. I rely on common sense. Common sense tells me that Bush doesn't care about spying on typical everyday conversations between U.S. citizens. Common sense tells me they are doing this to stop terrorist activity. Why in the hell would the government NEED to listen in on someone making a date for the weekend, for example? This is for the purpose of stopping activity which could harm hundreds, maybe thousands of U.S. citizens. Common sense tells me this.

As far as the warrant is concerned, we're at war with these people. They started this and I would hope the United States will finish this. They don't intend to play nice with us, and I'm not going to play nice with them. I don't mind the rules being thrown out the window if they catch these people in time. the last thing I want is for the government to ignore suspects again and we have another 9/11.

:)

Spider
01-26-2006, 08:16 PM
Spying on Vegans helps fighting terrorist how ?

Spider
01-26-2006, 08:18 PM
save a plant kill a vegan ? Less veggies , less foodfor terrorist .......... Just trying to follow the line of thinking to spy on Vegans to fight terror

elsid13
01-26-2006, 09:05 PM
the DeKalb County Division of Homeland Security , WTF???? I think of the cops from Mayberry when I read that title. Anyone else feel safer now that good old boys for Georgia are protecting us from those mean Vegans

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
01-26-2006, 09:36 PM
Anyone else feel safer now that good old boys for Georgia are protecting us from those mean Vegans

Hilarious!

Maybe they thought a vegan was like an al Qaeda member or something.