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GreatWhiteBronco

01-24-2006, 01:56 AM

What's he gonne say?...I hate this POS quitter and he's got no business collecting a paycheck? Forget this idiotic TO talk...we have bigger issues than finding a way to screw up this whole team and pay dearly for the opportunity.

i suppose but i don't think he would go out of his way to suggest that Rod 'would do wonders for him'.

that said, no we don't need TO but i think it's pretty clear we need at the least another solid possession receiver to compliment Rod, cuz let's face it, Ashley ain't it.

Popps

01-24-2006, 02:15 AM

GreatWhiteBronco

01-24-2006, 02:36 AM

Lelie has improved. I've been a pretty heavy critic, only because we took him so high. He's a nice role-player, and I'm glad to have him. But, he's no Rod Smith and never will be.

We need a clutch WR to take over when Rod retires, and let's be honest... Rod is already bucking the odds being this productive at his age. Even if he plays another couple of seasons, we have to find a #1 WR to step in.

yeah, i think Ashley's awesome but as you said he's a role player... he is dynamite down the field but this offense has sputtered ever since the loss of Eddie Mac. (and Elway obviously but that's a little tougher to replace) but we need to get back to that... a solid possession receiver opposite Rod to have that 3 headed monster again.

Rod is a God and he deserves another shot at a title and next year has gotta be that year imo. i'm not totally against TO, i'm an optimist/ignoramus whatever... but under the right circumstances, i think it could work, if only for one year. but if David Givens does become available, which it sounds like there's a decent chance he might, i think Shanny may wanna look into that.

Northman

01-24-2006, 03:14 AM

Nope.

OrangeShadow

01-24-2006, 05:43 AM

i couldnt hear anything from that link, but im a fan of bringing TO in

Ray Finkle

01-24-2006, 05:44 AM

I just threw up in my mouth....

toad

01-24-2006, 06:45 AM

TO makes an offense 10x better as soon as he steps on the field. He's probably the biggest play making WR in the game.

No doubt in my mind he's the best WR active today.

Sign him to an incentive laden contract with tons of behavioural clauses and see what happens.

All "off field issues" aside TO is a supreme competitor and wants a ring BAD.

He'd also make Jake look a lot better. He's got Rod's hands (although the both suffer from occassional drops) and he's faster and bigger.

-Slap-

01-24-2006, 06:51 AM

TO a good fit in Denver...

http://www.denverbroncos.com/page.php?id=913&videoID=1137

now that Nails said it, anyone change their mind ?
**** Nalen. Move Hamilton to center and forget about him.

-Slap-

01-24-2006, 06:59 AM

"Uh, Rod Smith would be great for TO. Rod's a great leader."

http://i.a.cnn.net/si/images/football/nfl/players/2799.jpg

TO would tell Rod Smith to go **** himself the first time Rod looked at him sideways. Goddamn, these guys are stupid.

Hey Nails, TO didn't give a **** what Hank Fraley thought and he doesn't give a **** about you, either.

B-Love

01-24-2006, 07:01 AM

I'm all for it; bring on TO.

When this team won, we had an Offensive Line that refused to speak to the media, a Linebacker who bordered dirty play and spoke openly about injuring people and spat at them. In addition, we had a TE with diahhrea of the mouth, who frustrated many. Crockett and Braxton were big trash talkers too, among several others.

And we won back to back.

Shanny could maintain that locker room; I'm all for it.

The real locker room cancers, according to Shanny, were the mopers and thinly veiled insult guys like Anthony Miller and Michael Dean Perry. And we know what Shanny did with them.

B-Love

01-24-2006, 07:02 AM

Slap, I guess we disagree.

-Slap-

01-24-2006, 07:08 AM

Slap, I guess we disagree.
It was bound to happen.

Enjoy that slimy piece of **** and what he does to your ballclub.

Bronco_Beerslug

01-24-2006, 07:22 AM

As I said yesterday, Sal said Bronco team leaders said TO would get them over the top.

toad

01-24-2006, 07:24 AM

As I said yesterday, Sal said Bronco team leaders said TO would get them over the top.

They interviewed Keith Burns and he seemed big on it....I guess he's a special teams captain?

Broncoman13

01-24-2006, 07:36 AM

It was bound to happen.

Enjoy that slimy piece of **** and what he does to your ballclub.

Your Ballclub? Am I reading too much into this Slap?

Rulon Velvet Jones

01-24-2006, 07:47 AM

You really think, after all that mess in Philly and the PR hit he took, that TO would try that again? Especially in his first year with a team? I HIGHLY doubt it. Bring him in.

fontaine

01-24-2006, 07:55 AM

You really think, after all that mess in Philly and the PR hit he took, that TO would try that again? Especially in his first year with a team? I HIGHLY doubt it. Bring him in.

TO did it four years running.

First it was calling out Garcia, then the next season refusing to speak with Mooch and punking out the O-Coordinator, then he was traded to B'more and his agent and TO refused and in the same year with Philly he called out McNabb as tiring out in the SuperBowl and now this season where he burned his bridges.

He's been an a$$hole fours years running to every franchise associated with him. Hell, he publicly called out McNabb hours after the SuperBowl in a season where he was the primary focus of the offense and got almost every pass thrown his way!

What's shocking is that instead of realizing that they were a few plays away from winning a superbowl and that he could have another big time shot in 2006 with the Eagles, he starts punking out McNabb after the superbowl, starts demanding more money in the offseason and phvcks up his year. You think this guy is interested in winning?

Ray Finkle

01-24-2006, 07:55 AM

You really think, after all that mess in Philly and the PR hit he took, that TO would try that again? Especially in his first year with a team? I HIGHLY doubt it. Bring him in.

Philly said the same thing when they brought him in....

B-Love

01-24-2006, 07:57 AM

You really think, after all that mess in Philly and the PR hit he took, that TO would try that again? Especially in his first year with a team? I HIGHLY doubt it. Bring him in.

Word.

Rulon Velvet Jones

01-24-2006, 08:01 AM

Quick OT rant by me (don't want to start a whole thread on it)

1. I'm really starting to hate people responding with "wow. what a classy post!". What the hell does class have to do with it? This word/phrase has been so overused on boards, it's making me puke. Use "ballsy" instead.

2. Jerome Bettis will be the most overrated player in this year's SB. He does absolutely NOTHING for me. He relies on his size alone and even that doesn't get it done. If he's so great, why not play him on an 80 yard drive instead of just in the red zone? Again, more puking.

Back to another thread devoted to TO talk...thank you

Bronco_Beerslug

01-24-2006, 08:02 AM

TO did it four years running.

First it was calling out Garcia, then the next season refusing to speak with Mooch and punking out the O-Coordinator, then he was traded to B'more and his agent and TO refused and in the same year with Philly he called out McNabb as tiring out in the SuperBowl and now this season where he burned his bridges.

McNabb didn't "tire out" in the SB?

BritBronco Maniac

01-24-2006, 08:03 AM

Doesn't anyone else find it strange that Nalen says nothing for years, then is all over the papers. First of all trying to talk up his contract (threatening to go to Houston), and now calling for TO.

Bronco_Beerslug

01-24-2006, 08:04 AM

Doesn't anyone else find it strange that Nalen says nothing for years, then is all over the papers. First of all trying to talk up his contract (threatening to go to Houston), and now calling for TO.

He wasn't the only one calling for TO.

fontaine

01-24-2006, 08:08 AM

McNabb didn't "tire out" in the SB?

maybe he did, or not. That's not the point. If TO calls him out for doing it then he better be a lockerroom leader type who leads by example. I could understand it then.

Besides, I'd rather have a younger WR with similar talent and far less baggage.

-Slap-

01-24-2006, 08:09 AM

You really think, after all that mess in Philly and the PR hit he took, that TO would try that again? Especially in his first year with a team? I HIGHLY doubt it. Bring him in.
If he wasn't mentally ill, I might agree with you.

-Slap-

01-24-2006, 08:10 AM

Bronco_Beerslug

01-24-2006, 08:11 AM

maybe he did, or not. That's not the point. If TO calls him out for doing it then he better be a lockerroom leader type who leads by example. I could understand it then.

Besides, I'd rather have a younger WR with similar talent and far less baggage.

Probably shouldn't have said anything but he was right. McNabb gave up but TO didn't in that game. That kinda falls in with leading by example.

GreatWhiteBronco

01-24-2006, 08:11 AM

sorry for the second TO thread, guys, didn't realize there was already a thread on him. the talk gets going quickly after a playoff loss haha...

x123z

01-24-2006, 08:15 AM

No TO. No Ricky Williams. Maybe our vet could keep them in line but why risk it.

-Slap-

01-24-2006, 08:17 AM

Probably shouldn't have said anything but he was right. McNabb gave up but TO didn't in that game. That kinda falls in with leading by example.
Getting sick is the same as giving up? Then I've seen Elway quit more than once. Too bad TO wasn't around to straighten him out that 100 degree day at the LA Coliseum when Elway left the game with heat stroke in the third quarter.

Bronco_Beerslug

01-24-2006, 08:18 AM

GreatWhiteBronco

01-24-2006, 08:18 AM

the only thing that i could think of that might be different this time around is TO has never been put so thoroughly through the ringer and beaten down as the latest episode in Philly... there may be a small chance he actually learned something from all this or, at the very least, not want to go through something like that again. i think we need to see him in another interview with ESPN!

-Slap-

01-24-2006, 08:19 AM

I wish TO could have given a flu sticken Elway a pep talk before the Super Bowl against San Francisco. Maybe John wouldn't have thrown his first pass straight into the ground.

-Slap-

01-24-2006, 08:19 AM

Just going by what McNabb said (I wasn't sick).
Oh, he said he gave up? Gotcha.

Bronco_Beerslug

01-24-2006, 08:20 AM

Oh, he said he gave up? Gotcha.
Did he? I didn't hear that. I just heard him say he wasn't sick.

Mile High Shack

01-24-2006, 08:22 AM

I don't know what to make of this whole TO situation

other than, if I had my choice, I'd take Moulds any day over TO, Moulds is still a play maker and would make our receiving core great

broncosteven

01-24-2006, 08:24 AM

I still don't get the TO Cell phone comerical with the TAG line of "Where you At" with TO as the spokes person. We don't know where TO is other than at Home. That has to be the dumbest promotion out there.

Personally there are people here that want Ricky Willams, TO & or both. I want to win another SB & will not buy a jersey of either of these head cases but will go along with it as long as we do not give up an high draft picks for Ricky or screw up the Cap.

Just think TO, Ash & Rod with BVP handing the ball off to Ricky would be Awesome!

B-Love

01-24-2006, 08:58 AM

Getting sick is the same as giving up? Then I've seen Elway quit more than once. Too bad TO wasn't around to straighten him out that 100 degree day at the LA Coliseum when Elway left the game with heat stroke in the third quarter.

John Boy was not a good boy in Hollywood on Saturday Night, the night before the 1990 opener.

That Saturday Night in LA remains one of the most legendary stories inside the 'not so' thin blue line of the Broncos top Booster Club; The Quarterback Club.

John earned his heat stroke with a little Saturday Night dehydrating.

bendog

01-24-2006, 09:03 AM

Seriously, BLove, what game of the season would you guess TO to get in Jake's face on the sideline?

freak6

01-24-2006, 09:06 AM

**** Nalen. Move Hamilton to center and forget about him.

You are too harsh Slap. Nalen is just leveraging himself for a new contract. It is a business afterall. And he is a ring of famer, first ballot. Keep Nalen, he is still a great C.

Smiling Assassin27

01-24-2006, 09:12 AM

Sign TO and then trade for Ricky Williams. We can film 'The Replacements, Part II--Derelicts in Training' next year in Denver.

TheDave

01-24-2006, 09:16 AM

I think people are forgetting how this guy tore apart 2 teams. As far as talent he is one of the best players in the league, he would absolutely help this club on the field... Until Jake missed a couple of throws and TO comes out the next day saying plummer is gay. This guy has to be the worst cancer in the history of team sports. I would take a chance on Ricky Williams 10x before i would take a chance on this guy...Please shanahan avoid this temptation!!!

By the way was TO in San Fran when Shanahan was there?

broncosteven

01-24-2006, 09:16 AM

Sign TO and then trade for Ricky Williams. We can film 'The Replacements, Part II--Derelicts in Training' next year in Denver.

We could get Dog the Bounty Hunter to get MoC out on Bail & sign him to another contract just to round out the experience.

freak6

01-24-2006, 09:18 AM

Sign TO and then trade for Ricky Williams. We can film 'The Replacements, Part II--Derelicts in Training' next year in Denver.

If we are going that route then getting Daunte Culpepper is a must.

GreatWhiteBronco

01-24-2006, 09:18 AM

By the way was TO in San Fran when Shanahan was there?

no

TheDave

01-24-2006, 09:20 AM

no

Good!

bendog

01-24-2006, 09:21 AM

Oh, can you see TO getting in Shanny's one good eye and ranting on the sideline?

B-Love

01-24-2006, 09:25 AM

Seriously, BLove, what game of the season would you guess TO to get in Jake's face on the sideline?

Hey ben, I'm not gonna argue with anyone over this because I know if defies logic, and it is also against alot of things I have stood for on message boards.

I don't know, I just feel it. I think this guy could come to Denver and be a good enough guy. Also, I think Plummer has the perfect "who cares" personality, and legitimately mean it, in regards to dealing with TO.

Plummer and David Boston were very productive together, and he was a scumbag.

I think Boston is a different case because he was a steroids and frequent injury guy. I don't remember Jake and Boston ever conflicting.

Did they?? Admittedly, I didn't follow the happenings in Tempe very closely.

I just think Jake is a real likeable guy and would bond with TO some how.

GreatWhiteBronco

01-24-2006, 09:29 AM

I just don't think TO can be the same guy after the Philly debacle... head case or not, mentally ill or not. if he really loves football like he says he does, he'll find a way to be a better team player wherever he goes.

bendog

01-24-2006, 09:35 AM

Hey ben, I'm not gonna argue with anyone over this because I know if defies logic, and it is also against alot of things I have stood for on message boards.

I don't know, I just feel it. I think this guy could come to Denver and be a good enough guy. Also, I think Plummer has the perfect "who cares" personality, and legitimately mean it, in regards to dealing with TO.

Plummer and David Boston were very productive together, and he was a scumbag.

I think Boston is a different case because he was a steroids and frequent injury guy. I don't remember Jake and Boston ever conflicting.

Did they?? Admittedly, I didn't follow the happenings in Tempe very closely.

I just think Jake is a real likeable guy and would bond with TO some how.
I don't think you can bond with TO unless you're a ho. TO will turn on his best friend the minute he thinks there's something for TO in turning.

It's an interesting though, and I agree, that Jake seems the kind of guy who can ignore the bs. But I don't see how a qb can let a teammate show him up on a sideline and not do something about it. If Garcia can deal wiht being prolly gay and couldn't deal with TO .... Then McNabb gets a beating cause "he doesn't play black enough..." WTF? LOL

I'd love if it could work. TO's the best player in the league, offensively, talent wise. He is huge in the running game, when he chooses to.

broncosteven

01-24-2006, 09:36 AM

I just think Jake is a real likeable guy and would bond with TO some how.

They could bond over Situps & Bench presses in TO's drive way.

dsmoot

01-24-2006, 09:43 AM

yeah, i think Ashley's awesome but as you said he's a role player... he is dynamite down the field but this offense has sputtered ever since the loss of Eddie Mac. (and Elway obviously but that's a little tougher to replace) but we need to get back to that... a solid possession receiver opposite Rod to have that 3 headed monster again.

Rod is a God and he deserves another shot at a title and next year has gotta be that year imo. i'm not totally against TO, i'm an optimist/ignoramus whatever... but under the right circumstances, i think it could work, if only for one year. but if David Givens does become available, which it sounds like there's a decent chance he might, i think Shanny may wanna look into that.

The dropoff in recieving was significant when McCaffrey and Shannon were lost in a couple of years. The three of these wide recievers at any time could have a great game, even dominating if the defense chose to take any of the other two out of the game. Rod and Ed were great downfield blockers and Shannon was no slouch. It was very difficult to defense all 3 wide recievers. None of these recievers disappeared for games at a time. Usually, if one had a low recieving game it was a function of not enough footballs to go around plus having a great running game going. All 3 wide recievers were a threat on 3rd down.

Fast forward to the present. Lelie disappears at times and I don't think that is because of game planning. What No. 3 reciever, I haven't seen one in six years. Griese and Jake have locked onto Rod way too much in critical 3rd situations. Jake has much fewer recieving options than Elway did the last few years.

Dagmar

01-24-2006, 09:48 AM

Wasn't Todd Saur an apparent POS? Maybe a change of scenery, different lockerroom... Maybe

-Slap-

01-24-2006, 11:45 AM

Then McNabb gets a beating cause "he doesn't play black enough..." WTF? LOL
Oh yeah, the added bonus of being labeled racists when we get fed up and fire him.

:thumbs:

DBroncos4life

01-24-2006, 11:56 AM

Sign TO, Boston, Trade for Williams (this one I like), MoC needs another second chance. Forget more cowbell, we need more Cancer.

Rohirrim

01-24-2006, 11:59 AM

If the vets on the Broncos think that TO would fit into the lockerroom, who am I to argue? Pull the trigger, Mike.

oklahomabroncofan

01-24-2006, 12:09 PM

I say go for it. We need another wr bad. As far as his past last time I looked he did not kill anyone, i have never heard anything about drugs or steroids, he has never been arrested for domestic assult, he just runs his mouth an awful lot. I think he will be great for who ever he plays for next year because it will be his last shot. If he screws it up I don't think he will get another chance. The veterans on this team will keep him in line. If does come here then the WR's should just put a ban on talking to the media like the Oline.

oklahomabroncofan

01-24-2006, 12:11 PM

if he does not come here we have to address this issue just imagine this year if Rod got hurt

Rulon Velvet Jones

01-24-2006, 12:44 PM

bpc

01-24-2006, 12:51 PM

In theory, TO is a great addition to any ballclub. What comes into effect though is his intangables which are just plain cancerous. The only way I would take TO would be on a 1 year deal with him having to prove himself every week. Otherwise, I say get a good redzone TE and a stud HB and get back to playing Broncos football.

Old Dude

01-24-2006, 12:57 PM

I'm not going to get too tweaked over this, one way or the other, until something more definite happens.

Strangest thing about all of this is that Nalen is talking to the press at all.

ZONA

01-24-2006, 01:08 PM

i suppose but i don't think he would go out of his way to suggest that Rod 'would do wonders for him'.

that said, no we don't need TO but i think it's pretty clear we need at the least another solid possession receiver to compliment Rod, cuz let's face it, Ashley ain't it.

Lets hope you never become head coach of Denver. You are obviously as smart as a squirl in the middle of a road.

Please tell me exactly what has Lelie done wrong where you don't like him. He didn't drop a pass in the last game. As I recall, Smith dropped one right in his hands. Lelie has more speed, blocks just as good, makes all the hard catches and more recently, since Shanny TOLD Jake to look for him more on the shorter routes, has been doing a nice job on those too.

You are an IDIOT man. You simply don't know football dude. You're just a "jump on the bandwagon" against Lelie because he didn't have the most catches. If Jake actually looked for him more, he would get the ball more.

Morons some of you are I swear.

Arkie

01-24-2006, 01:15 PM

Owens is 33 and only has a few good years left.

2KBack

01-24-2006, 01:19 PM

Lets hope you never become head coach of Denver. You are obviously as smart as a squirl in the middle of a road.

Please tell me exactly what has Lelie done wrong where you don't like him. He didn't drop a pass in the last game. As I recall, Smith dropped one right in his hands. Lelie has more speed, blocks just as good, makes all the hard catches and more recently, since Shanny TOLD Jake to look for him more on the shorter routes, has been doing a nice job on those too.

You are an IDIOT man. You simply don't know football dude. You're just a "jump on the bandwagon" against Lelie because he didn't have the most catches. If Jake actually looked for him more, he would get the ball more.

Morons some of you are I swear.

while I don't hate Lelie, and would rather see him stay a Bronco, he is not quite the player you have described. He certainly does not fight off the line as well as Rod, and I'm amazed any Bronco fan would suggest that he blocks as well either. Yes he became more consistant as the season ran on, but on several occasions i saw him make terrible adjustments to the ball in flight. He's good, and getting better, which excites me. He is no Rod though, and you should be ashamed for making the comparison.

defenseman

01-24-2006, 01:30 PM

Zona, morons? And you are a , brain surgeon? Pot calling the kettle black from my read on your take? 2K is dead on wrt Lelie. He simply is not physical enough, and does not block nearly as well as he should. And to be quite honest, if he were the superstar you say he is, Shanahan would have ENSURED jake got him the ball. Weak. By the way squirl is spelled "squirrel".....dman

*Give it a break man, no need to be so confrontational, then again.....have it your way, you can catch bees with vinegar if you desire, I'll use honey.

cutman0122

01-24-2006, 02:03 PM

Owens is 33 and only has a few good years left.

Yup. I think TO can be expected to perform at a reasonably high level for another two or three years atleast. Using this time frame, TO needs one good(behavior/performance wise) year with a competetive team to drastically improve his market the following year, and sign what might be his final contract with whomever he pleases. It will depend on his market value this year and if any team is willing to give in to his demands. But if no one gives in to his demands/price, this pushes TO to do what he needs to do to resurrect his career (be on his best behavior while proving he can still play). It might be this same thing teams (that need a push over the top), may be considering in signing him to a one year deal. I can definitely see this working out for both parties.

dsmoot

01-24-2006, 02:07 PM

Opening day in Denver next season...

TO streaks down the sideline, Jake hits him with a 60 yard bomb. TO jogs into the endzone and gives the "Mile High Salute" to the fans.

Then what would you think?

My concern is about him is that he would "redefine" the "Mile High Salute"

toad

01-24-2006, 02:15 PM

while I don't hate Lelie, and would rather see him stay a Bronco, he is not quite the player you have described. He certainly does not fight off the line as well as Rod, and I'm amazed any Bronco fan would suggest that he blocks as well either. Yes he became more consistant as the season ran on, but on several occasions i saw him make terrible adjustments to the ball in flight. He's good, and getting better, which excites me. He is no Rod though, and you should be ashamed for making the comparison.

I've always viewed Lelie as a good #2 WR, but one that will not likely blossom into a #1.

Maybe its our system, maybe its Jake, maybe its him.

I don't know -- he just doesn't appear to have the "it" it takes to be a #1.

I thought last year was a step forward but this year seems to be a step back. I've only been able to see 6 or so games this year (on the east coast) so beyond those games I'm just looking at the stat book.

You just seem to expect more from a #1 Draft Pick (although wasn't he considered a big reach when Shanny took him #1?).

Ray Finkle

01-24-2006, 02:55 PM

I've always viewed Lelie as a good #2 WR, but one that will not likely blossom into a #1.

Maybe its our system, maybe its Jake, maybe its him.

I don't know -- he just doesn't appear to have the "it" it takes to be a #1.

I thought last year was a step forward but this year seems to be a step back. I've only been able to see 6 or so games this year (on the east coast) so beyond those games I'm just looking at the stat book.

You just seem to expect more from a #1 Draft Pick (although wasn't he considered a big reach when Shanny took him #1?).

he slipped in the draft...Atlanta was "targeted" to take him but took the RB who's name escapes me...

broncocalijohn

01-24-2006, 02:56 PM

What would happen if TO pulls a Clarett and we then miss out on a stud receiver, probably lose out on cap space (hell, Chargers didnt get help when a player died!) and we are back to square run. You then would have to finally get Lelie to get to his potential (lie his catches in the Championship game) and then hope people like Adams can play out on the wideout. Would our TE get more throws to help spread the coverage like Sharpe did? They are getting better but they are no Sharpe. I say get a free agent guy that makes a difference now and has good character. I dont see TO as that player. Ability YES, attitude NO!

broncocalijohn

01-24-2006, 03:01 PM

Opening day in Denver next season...

TO streaks down the sideline, Jake hits him with a 60 yard bomb. TO jogs into the endzone and gives the "Mile High Salute" to the fans.

Then what would you think?

Just a mile high salute? Pleeease this is TO we are talking about. He would jump on the back of the horse, ride around the field, then get flagged for excessive celebration and delay of game.

toad

01-24-2006, 03:03 PM

he slipped in the draft...Atlanta was "targeted" to take him but took the RB who's name escapes me...

Ahh...probably TJ Duckett (?)

Vegas_Bronco

01-24-2006, 03:07 PM

Lelie needs to get some cahones! Rod needs to be our QB (check this out)! Look at the form Big Rod has!

OrangeShadow

01-24-2006, 03:10 PM

if you guy bring up the point owens is 32,moulds is 33

Rascal

01-24-2006, 03:11 PM

if you guy bring up the point owens is 32,moulds is 33

lol...i was waiting for somebody to bring that up.

Ray Finkle

01-24-2006, 03:12 PM

Ahh...probably TJ Duckett (?)

yep...him...

OrangeShadow

01-24-2006, 03:13 PM

lol...i was waiting for somebody to bring that up.

:ouwknow:

FantomForce

01-24-2006, 04:00 PM

You really think, after all that mess in Philly and the PR hit he took, that TO would try that again? Especially in his first year with a team? I HIGHLY doubt it. Bring him in.
Did you forget that this is the second time that he has done this what about his team in San Fran?? Once a serial franchise killer, always a serial franchise killer man you TO fans are idiots!!

Bronco_Beerslug

01-24-2006, 04:08 PM

Did you forget that this is the second time that he has done this what about his team in San Fran?? Once a serial franchise killer, always a serial franchise killer man you TO fans are idiots!!

I hope we sign him so you have to find another team to root for :wave:

British Bronco

01-24-2006, 04:28 PM

Am I the only one who suspects that Nalen and the like are putting the word on TO out in order to put the feelers/prepare people for an announcement. Can't see Shanny being happy about them talking about bringing in a guy he doesnt want.

fuzzy

01-24-2006, 05:00 PM

Owens is 33 and only has a few good years left.

TO is a freak when it comes to taking care of his body. I'm not sure if i can think of any player who takes better care of himself. No way he experiances any drop off whatsoever for the next 5 years (barring injury)

OrangeShadow

01-24-2006, 05:03 PM

cant think of anyone that takes better care of it in football,in all of sports clemens rivals him but thats about it

Ray Finkle

01-24-2006, 05:04 PM

cant think of anyone that takes better care of it in football,in all of sports clemens rivals him but thats about it

Gilbert Brown, Shawn Kemp, and David Wells all come to mind...:~ohyah!:

OrangeShadow

01-24-2006, 05:12 PM

Gilbert Brown, Shawn Kemp, and David Wells all come to mind...:~ohyah!:
im in red sox nation you need not bring up the name david wells :TJnPopps:

FantomForce

01-24-2006, 05:18 PM

I hope we sign him so you have to find another team to root for :wave:
And when we don't sign him????:wave: :espnsux:

Merlin

01-24-2006, 05:43 PM

if you guy bring up the point owens is 32,moulds is 33
I would rather bring in Moulds. A lot less risk, might be cheaper (although TO may have devalued himself too much), you can get more out of him (you are lucky to get 1 yr from TO, you can get 2 to 3 from Moulds), and Moulds has put up some very good numbers under very trying conditions (very poorly coached team the past 4-5 yrs).

-Slap-

01-24-2006, 05:52 PM

Antonio Bryant.

Bronco_Beerslug

01-24-2006, 06:15 PM

Antonio Bryant.
He's shown flashes but is a little thin unless he put on some weight this year.

RMT

01-24-2006, 09:31 PM

Nails knows if he stays in Denver & TO arrives, this team has a damn good chance of going to the SB & winning it.

It's time to pull the trigger Shanny. You know you want him. Make it happen.

I agree, Maven ... how soon people forget that Shanahan took a risk on players like Dale Carter, Daryl Gardener, and Maurine Clarett, not to mention Romo and Michael Dean "I can't run off the field in the playoffs" Perry.

Shanahan will ALWAYS do what he feels is in the "best interests" of the Broncos' pursuit of a Super Bowl. I trust his judgment. The Broncos lack a playmaker on offense. TO would be one ...

RMT

01-24-2006, 09:32 PM

I would rather bring in Moulds. A lot less risk, might be cheaper (although TO may have devalued himself too much), you can get more out of him (you are lucky to get 1 yr from TO, you can get 2 to 3 from Moulds), and Moulds has put up some very good numbers under very trying conditions (very poorly coached team the past 4-5 yrs).

Let's go after both :)

minibronco

01-24-2006, 09:33 PM

Why does your avatar get approved, yet my female avatar where you can see the bottom of the boobs dancing does not(nipples & mid to top cleavage is completely covered)? One day I log on, and my avi disappeared.:giggle:

ROTFLOLMAO!!!!

fontaine

01-25-2006, 05:59 AM

Antonio Bryant.

He would by my 2nd choice behind Moulds. He had trouble with Parcells two season ago but we all know that Parcells plays mind games. In cleveland he's kept quite and what's more important has improved to be their primary WR.

Cleveland is going in a different direction with Edwards so they could let this guy go. I think it would be ideal to bring him in, have him play the 2/3 WR role and learn for a year while Rod is still the number 1 guy and in 2007 he could be ready to take over as the primary WR and the guy is only 24 so we could get him for reasonably cheap and get his best years.

We have enough projects in Watts, Devoe, Adams, and YES Lelie to invest yet another high draft pick on a WR that goes nowhere for the first three years in a weak draft class to boot.