2006 Cap numbers

[HEAV]

Thanks goes to the NFLPA.com for the info.

Just a few high caps and possible fixes.

Rod Smith 3.0 Mill (restruct)

Stephen Alexander 1.1 Mill (With Jeb, Duke I say cut the guy)

Jake Plummer 4.3 Mill ( Restruct)

Mike Anderson 2.5 Mill (It's been fun but not at 2.5 Mill Cut em)

Courtney Brown 1.4 Mill (resonable, may restruct)

Eb. Ekuban 3.0 Mill (see ya)

Trevor Pyrce 6.5 Mill (WHAT! goddbye former Bronco)

John Englberger 1.7 Mill ( emmm he could be a starter in 06 Restruct)

Champ Bailey 5.5 Mill (I like ya Champ, but you got to restruct that some)





So you can see that the bulk of the team is low contracts. The major money guys are easy cuts.

Jake/Rod/Champ are sure to restructure their deals.

Easliy making that supposed 25 Mill over disapear and become a surpluss to sign the two #1's and get a few free agents!

This could be a great off season!

[ludo21]

"Dead" money wont be an issue this offseason. WE will be able to do a lot of things!

[SoCalBronco]

Those are just the base salaries. Brown is due 2 million option bonus, I believe Herc said Trevor's overall figure is 9.1.

The money is going to come from Nalen being released (6 mill- sorry folks its just economics), Warren's deal voiding out (6 mill), Trevor getting on the first bus out of town (9 mill).

[DBroncos4life]

Lynch comes in just under 3 mill too. We know he will rework that.

[Wes Mantooth]

Thanks goes to the NFLPA.com for the info.

Just a few high caps and possible fixes.

Rod Smith 3.0 Mill (restruct)

Stephen Alexander 1.1 Mill (With Jeb, Duke I say cut the guy)

Jake Plummer 4.3 Mill ( Restruct)

Mike Anderson 2.5 Mill (It's been fun but not at 2.5 Mill Cut em)

Courtney Brown 1.4 Mill (resonable, may restruct)

Eb. Ekuban 3.0 Mill (see ya)

Trevor Pyrce 6.5 Mill (WHAT! goddbye former Bronco)

John Englberger 1.7 Mill ( emmm he could be a starter in 06 Restruct)

Champ Bailey 5.5 Mill (I like ya Champ, but you got to restruct that some)





So you can see that the bulk of the team is low contracts. The major money guys are easy cuts.

Jake/Rod/Champ are sure to restructure their deals.

Easliy making that supposed 25 Mill over disapear and become a surpluss to sign the two #1's and get a few free agents!

This could be a great off season!
Ron Dayne does a better MA impression than MA. Sign Ron Dayne long term!!

[ludo21]

Ron Dayne does a better MA impression than MA. Sign Ron Dayne long term!!


yessssssssssss:strong:

[Drek]

Thanks goes to the NFLPA.com for the info.

Just a few high caps and possible fixes.

Rod Smith 3.0 Mill (restruct)

Stephen Alexander 1.1 Mill (With Jeb, Duke I say cut the guy)

Jake Plummer 4.3 Mill ( Restruct)

Mike Anderson 2.5 Mill (It's been fun but not at 2.5 Mill Cut em)

Courtney Brown 1.4 Mill (resonable, may restruct)

Eb. Ekuban 3.0 Mill (see ya)

Trevor Pyrce 6.5 Mill (WHAT! goddbye former Bronco)

John Englberger 1.7 Mill ( emmm he could be a starter in 06 Restruct)

Champ Bailey 5.5 Mill (I like ya Champ, but you got to restruct that some)
This could be a great off season!
Those numbers are way off since they're just base salaries, not including roster bonsus, defered signing bonus, etc..

Also, we should cut Englberger's ass, he's not worth restructuring at 1.7M.

The money is going to come from Nalen being released (6 mill- sorry folks its just economics), Warren's deal voiding out (6 mill), Trevor getting on the first bus out of town (9 mill). Nalen's deal has voided, as has Lepsis, they didn't get cut which is actually better for our cap as it takes all the dead money they otherwise would have been owed off as well. Warren's deal is voided already, I think he should be resigned but it can easily be done for a lot less than $6M. Pryce needs to be cut as well.

Too bad Ekuban's number is so high, he's played well, but he's not worth $3M. Also, I'm pretty sure Brown will get an $8M roster bonus or some such nonsense if he's not cut or restructured, which currently is on the books. Between Brown ($8M), Warren ($6M), Pryce ($9.1M), Englberger ($1.7M), Ekuban ($3M) we'll clear nearly $28M just by cutting/voiding deals of all but one of our starting DLs (Myers). We'll hopefully resign Warren, I'd even like to keep Ekuban at a reduced price in exchange for adding a year or two onto his deal, it'll still clear a ton of cap though.

[Bronco_Beerslug]

Thanks goes to the NFLPA.com for the info.

Just a few high caps and possible fixes.

Rod Smith 3.0 Mill (restruct)

Stephen Alexander 1.1 Mill (With Jeb, Duke I say cut the guy)

Jake Plummer 4.3 Mill ( Restruct)

Mike Anderson 2.5 Mill (It's been fun but not at 2.5 Mill Cut em)

Courtney Brown 1.4 Mill (resonable, may restruct)

Eb. Ekuban 3.0 Mill (see ya)

Trevor Pyrce 6.5 Mill (WHAT! goddbye former Bronco)

John Englberger 1.7 Mill ( emmm he could be a starter in 06 Restruct)

Champ Bailey 5.5 Mill (I like ya Champ, but you got to restruct that some)


Pryce is gone if doesn't give up mucho dollars, MA is proven Dayne isn't, Bell can't block, MA will take a cut to stay. Pay Champ MORE money. Rod has to restructure as the 3rd receiver. The Browns all have to restructure.

[Al Wilson]

Pryce isn't going. He's the team's only star pass rusher.

[bronco militia]

Pryce isn't going. He's the team's only star pass rusher.


yeah , in September and October....where the hell has he been since? Take a pay cut and move him back to tackle

[Bronco_Beerslug]

Pryce isn't going. He's the team's only star pass rusher.
What?

[Dukes]

Pryce isn't going. He's the team's only pass rusher.

I fixed it for you

[Al Wilson]

It's not about sacks.

Out of all the guys on the DL, he's the only that gets consistent pass rush on the QB.

Warren is great collapsing the pocket, but Pryce is the only one who gets pressure the most. If you cut him you won't get someone as good as him in the market. In Free Agency you will have to spend more than Pryce's salary to get someone who's close to as good as he is.

[Bronco_Beerslug]

It's not about sacks.

Out of all the guys on the DL, he's the only that gets consistent pass rush on the QB.

Warren is great collapsing the pocket, but Pryce is the only one who gets pressure the most. If you cut him you won't get someone as good as him in the market. In Free Agency you will have to spend more than Pryce's salary to get someone who's close to as good as he is.
You missed the point. He isn't staying here for 9 million a year. And he needs to be moved back inside.

[Al Wilson]

You missed the point. He isn't staying here for 9 million a year. And he needs to be moved back inside.
It's not even 9 million. His salary for next season is 6.5M according to Heav. You won't get someone as good as Pryce for 6.5M in FA.

[Bronco_Beerslug]

It's not even 9 million. His salary for next season is 6.5M according to Heav. You won't get someone as good as Pryce for 6.5M in FA.
9.1 million and he won't be here for 6.5 either.

[Mile High Shack]

It's not even 9 million. His salary for next season is 6.5M according to Heav. You won't get someone as good as Pryce for 6.5M in FA.

with how pryce played this year

he isn't even worth his base salary of 6.5 million, no less 9 million

see ya pryce

[Al Wilson]

9.1 million and he won't be here for 6.5 either.
Let's leave this to the team. You obviously aren't an expert.

[Bronco_Beerslug]

Let's leave this to the team. You obviously aren't an expert.

:thumbs: OK, Pat.

[missingnumber7]

After going 14-4 and seeing the chance they had to go even farther...I think some of the guys will line up to make sure they can keep as much intact as they can.

[defenseman]

Fire them all, start over...dman

[ro_50]

Finally, no more dead money.

[Hercules Rockefeller]

Nalen's deal has voided, as has Lepsis, they didn't get cut which is actually better for our cap as it takes all the dead money they otherwise would have been owed off as well.

That's a big negatory. All money paid out to players has to hit the cap at some point. The only difference between a deal that voids and cutting a player is that Denver will still be eligible for comp picks if they lose any of the guys whose deals voided.

[Hercules Rockefeller]

Finally, no more dead money.

Warren, Nalen, and Lepsis will all leave dead money on Denver's cap this year.

[Hercules Rockefeller]

9.1 million and he won't be here for 6.5 either.

I believe the Rocky put Pryce's number at over $10M this morning.

[orange 4 life]

something else that hasnt been mentioned is playoff game revenue.

of course everything has to be structured within the cap, but the fact that bowlen made alot of money hosting two playoff games just makes him all the more likely to be willing to bust out the check book.

personally, im of the frame of mind that we're only ONE or TWO players away this time around.
a truly DOMINANT defensive end would be nice, though not completely necessary.
we could sign a couple more mid range guys and let them all duke it out for playing time. we could certainly strengthen our pass rush, but we could also get to the bowl without it.

the ONE position that i believe CANNOT be overlooked is receiver.
smith is a hall of famer in my book, and he still has "it", but he's at the end of a great career.
lelie is a solid receiver, and i think he CAN step up to a #1 role, but regardless of where you stand on that discussion we all would agree we need one more guy.

the fact that we trailed 24-3 and 27-10 and were still in 2 wr sets tells us something.
sure, we kept tight ends in to help pass protect, but does anyone NOT think that if we had another REAL threat at wr they wouldnt have been out there?

charlie is a real nice guy, but he's not a #3 receiver.

frankly, i dont think we should get caught up in #1, #2, and #3.
call them what you like, but the key is to get THREE guys that are essentially interchangeable.
if you wanna make em all happy, list our starting lineup as a 3 wr set.
kyle johnson will play the same amount, but technically come off the bench.

bottom line is the qb aint the problem.
the problem is that the qb needs one more target.
if we can get a guy in that is equal to rod (or even ash) in talent, we would be a deadly offense.

jake

[maven]

Ron Dayne does a better MA impression than MA. Sign Ron Dayne long term!!

Why? Give him another one year deal. If he doesn't want it, get steppin.

[orange 4 life]

also, kudo's to am950 for this mornings radio show.

they were emphatically supporting plummer, and sticking it to the dipsticks calling for a replacement.
the legend of elway may never allow another qb to get the full support he deserves in this town, but that sure doesnt mean you run out a guy like plummer.

bottom line is that there are only a few guys in the nfl that would be better for us, and none of those guys are available.
manning and mcnabb arent coming to denver.

that said, plummer is CLEARLY a FEW notches above ANYONE out there in free agency.
if you want to draft a qb to groom for a few years, fine.
i think we wait a couple years, but either way, thats a guy to groom.

if anyone thinks we should sign a free agent replacement or trade both 1st rounders to move up and take a qb, theyre nuts.

plummer showed what he's made of all season, and even against pittsburgh.
the guy is a gamer, and he never quits. he also doesnt point fingers, even when fingers DESERVE to be pointed.
at 24-3 and 27-10 he just kept coming.
the guy is a top 5 nfl qb, and considering his price tag he's a bargain.
we put alot of pieces in place on defense last offseason, and this offseason we need to give our probowl qb some more weapons.

the guys wanting to replace that qb are out of their minds.

[Drek]

That's a big negatory. All money paid out to players has to hit the cap at some point. The only difference between a deal that voids and cutting a player is that Denver will still be eligible for comp picks if they lose any of the guys whose deals voided.
Interesting, I figured it was either a) contracts couldn't have prorated money that'd go past a void point or b) player forfeit the money if they choose to void.

I'm guessing it accelerates whatever prorated amounts remain to this one season?

If we resign them can we incorporate it into the new deal, prorating again if desired?

To me Warren, Lepsis, and Nalen should be priorities this off-season, so if we could somehow avoid the dead money the voiding of all three's deals bring as part of signing them it could give us extra flexability in outbidding other teams.

[bpc]

Plummer played fine this year and I predict he will have a breakout season next year. He has eliminated the INT's and I find it hard to believe that Denver will do anything to lessen the talent in front of him. We have a lot of ammunition to make moves this offseason. It will be interesting to see what we do with the salary cap. There are a lot of guys that are playing platoon roles that need to give back to the rest of the team. The good thing is there are vets on this team that know what its all about... guys like Jake, Rod, Lynch... I have a feeling those guys will easily warm up to the fact that with more salary cap relief, we can bring in some more talented players.

There are going to be some studs out there in free agency... Nalen and Lepsis provide an interesting possibility. Do we resign Nalen and Lepsis? Or just one of them? I think Lepsis will be back. He has played really solid ball the past two seasons moving to the left tackle spot. Defenders rave about him being a quality opponent. So I say he will definitely stay. I'm not sure how I feel about Nalen doing all this talking going into free agency. He is churping like a chicken. Does Shanahan see our team going into another direction with Hamilton as the Center and maybe picking up a guy like Steve Hutchinson from Seattle? That would be a huge addition, one that has helped pave the way for the MVP of the league Shaun Alexander. It would be interesting to see if they would do that. Seattle will be tied up in trying to keep Alexander.

What do we do at HB? I think there is a feeling here that Shanahan understands that he has to leave the RBBC behind. One guy should be taking 15-25 carries for us. In our system, that is the most efficient way to do things especially around playoff time as Slap has said numerous times. Do we give the ball to Dayne? I think he could be decent there... he isn't the sexy pick though. Do we try to draft a guy like Lendale White who would be a stud in our system or do we try to bring in a guy like Ricky Williams who would have a relatively low cost for the talent he has available?

What about the pass rush? There is a lot of money tied up in defenders that are just platoon players. Pryce is going to have to renegotiate or he won't be here this next season. I have to think that Warren has given us the best push inside at the DT spot then we've had in a long while. The team needs to bring him back. Also can we land a good DL prospect in the draft as deep as this one? Do we bring in a guy at 22 like Mathias Kiwanuka or do we trade up for a stud like Mario Williams?

There are a lot of ways we can go in this draft and this offseason. Of course with Shanahan, i'm sure it will hardly be boring and of course... he'll change things up to try and get the right combination for a championship.

[RaiderH8r]

Pryce isn't going. He's the team's only star pass rusher.
That statement speaks to just how desperately this team needs a pass rush.

[bendog]

Herc, I'm confused. Are you thinking that Lepsis is gone for sure? And, has the contract voided? I thought the roster bonuses weren't due yet? And even if it has voided, if Den resigns him after the contract voided, there's not really any dead money, is there?

[Bronco_Beerslug]

the guy is a top 5 nfl qb, and considering his price tag he's a bargain.


Manning
Brady
Big Ben
McNabb
Palmer
Hasselbeck
Delhomme
Brees

Top 5?

Plummer has a funky delivery and short arms his throws for some reason and has problems throwing out of the pocket. And at 32 he won't be able to be scampering around much longer so if we're going to win the SB we better get a play maker in here quick.

[azbroncfan]

Manning
Brady
Big Ben
McNabb
Palmer
Hasselbeck
Delhomme
Brees

Top 5?

Plummer has a funky delivery and short arms his throws for some reason and has problems throwing out of the pocket. And at 32 he won't be able to be scampering around much longer so if we're going to win the SB we better get a play maker in here quick.

You might like him or not but he is one of the Best QB's throwing on the run. I assume you mean trouble throwing from the pocket.

[Bronco_Beerslug]

You might like him or not but he is one of the Best QB's throwing on the run. I assume you mean trouble throwing from the pocket.

Yeah, I can't figure why. He throws great outside the pocket!

[Bronco_Beerslug]

Originally Posted by Bronco_Beerslug
9.1 million and he won't be here for 6.5 either.
Let's leave this to the team. You obviously aren't an expert.

Here you go AL. You're right, I'm not an expert because I was a little low on Pryce's cap number.

On the other side of the ball, defensive end Trevor Pryce is scheduled to count nearly $10.3 million on the cap next season. The defensive end was an integral part of the Broncos' front four but probably will be asked to reduce his $6.53 million base salary, after making similar concessions in the spring to remain with the team.
http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/nfl/article/0,2777,DRMN_23918_4411066,00.html

[eddie mac]

Warren, Nalen, and Lepsis will all leave dead money on Denver's cap this year.

Warren wont leave that much with him only having 1 year left but Nalen has 3 years and Lepsis has 4 so any proportions of signing bonuses remaining will hit the cap.

[HEAV]

Sorry the numbers wern't dead on fellas. I only had the NFLPA site to work with.

But gives you a view of what will happen in teh coming months.

I also feel that Jake was put in a bad spot by coach and a piss poor blocking scheme and Zero running game.

[Bronco_Beerslug]

Sorry the numbers wern't dead on fellas. I only had the NFLPA site to work with.

But gives you a view of what will happen in teh coming months.

I also feel that Jake was put in a bad spot by coach and a piss poor blocking scheme and Zero running game.
Hey, you got it rolling :thumbs:

[Elway 4 Life]

If we keep pryce we need to move him back to DT and restructure his contract to about 3 or so million. 9 or 10 million for what he did on the field will not work. He and warren on the inside will be dominant. We get a speed rusher on the outside with ekuban and we will be much improved. I think myers and brown can rotate in. We need to restructure the whole lot though.

[Rausch]

Every year there's a Chiefs/Broncos/Raiders/Redskins will be in cap hell thread.

Every year nothing similar to cap hell happens for any of them.

The only thing that appears obvious is that no one outside of the teams and their front offices really know the true cap numbers.

[DB-Freak]

It's not about sacks.

Out of all the guys on the DL, he's the only that gets consistent pass rush on the QB.

Warren is great collapsing the pocket, but Pryce is the only one who gets pressure the most. If you cut him you won't get someone as good as him in the market. In Free Agency you will have to spend more than Pryce's salary to get someone who's close to as good as he is.

He had one great game and did nothing rest of the year.

He's the most overpaid player on this team and probably DL in the league.

[DB-Freak]

I believe the Rocky put Pryce's number at over $10M this morning.
Yea he was 9 mil last year so I doubted he would have 9 mil again.

Over 10mil = Overkill

[HEAV]

He had one great game and did nothing rest of the year.

He's the most overpaid player on this team and probably DL in the league.


Also his one big sack/pressure game was against a backup tackle. Then when he played against the starter in the re-match he was stoned for the entire game.

Face it Trev was 2" away from being cut last year. It wsn't until he found zero "serious" interest in looking for a trade, that he finally sucked it up and restructured his deal.

Let's not forget it was his lack of reworking his deal that had Denver in stall mode for the early part of Free agency last year.

[Raider Bill]

The only thing that appears obvious is that no one outside of the teams and their front offices really know the true cap numbers

Not necessarily..... I have a chart


http://extras.mnginteractive.com/live/media/site181/2006/0102/20060102_095229_0102raiderscap1.jpg

[Clockwork Orange]

Wow. Collins' cap number is a shade under $13 million?

What do you think Bill, cut or restructure?

[Raider Bill]

Wow. Collins' cap number is a shade under $13 million?

What do you think Bill, cut or restructure?


I think he's a goner. The way it's structured leaves only 1 million of dead money
or so

[watermock]

Pryce isn't going. He's the team's only star pass rusher.

Ha! He's a decent run stuffer. Care to tell us his sack total? It was FOUR SACKS from our RDE. That isn't a 6.5, 9.1 cap number player. WTF are you yapping out of your ass about.

Star pass rusher my ass. i was really pissed when we let Berry go...he never got his due here for whatever reason.

Berry got only 6 sacks, but that's still 40% more than Pryce.

[Al Wilson]

The point that you don't seem to realize is that you won't get a good a player like Pryce in Free Agency for 6million.

If Pryce gets cut, who will be the team's feared pass rusher DL ?

The good pass rushers DL in FA are always picked up with a deal like 7-8mill a year with a bonus of 10mill.

Keeping Pryce would save the team from a spending spree.

[fontaine]

The point that you don't seem to realize is that you won't get a good a player like Pryce in Free Agency for 6million.

If Pryce gets cut, who will be the team's feared pass rusher DL ?

The good pass rushers DL in FA are always picked up with a deal like 7-8mill a year with a bonus of 10mill.

Keeping Pryce would save the team from a spending spree.

It's not a question of Pryce being our best pass rusher.

It's a question of being able to afford him at a $10million cap charge.

If he was a young player and improving then it's a different matter. But with only one or two years of good play left in him, he should be moved inside alongside Warren if he'll take a pay cut. If he wants to restructure or not deal at all then he walks.

I'd rather we spend two first round picks at DE than using $10million of cap space on one aging DE who's a run stopper, not a pass rusher.

[Elway777]

I like to keep Pryce because restucturing could save the Broncos more money then just cutting him. If Pryce does not restructure he is as good as gone. Warren a had a decent year but only had 18 tackles and 3 stacks .I would only offer Warren a reasonable contract at about 2 to 3 million a year. I would also like to add two stud defensive lineman like Abraham and Royce. I would go after Abraham before TO . A defensive line of Pryce ,Warren,Royce and Abraham would be nice. Add couple of pass rusher like Tambi and Jonathan lewis in draft then our defensive would be good shape.

[Bronco_Beerslug]

The point that you don't seem to realize is that you won't get a good a player like Pryce in Free Agency for 6million.

If Pryce gets cut, who will be the team's feared pass rusher DL ?

The good pass rushers DL in FA are always picked up with a deal like 7-8mill a year with a bonus of 10mill.

Keeping Pryce would save the team from a spending spree.

As I already showed you Pryce isn't here at 6.5 let alone 10.3 million. Pryce ISN'T a feared pass rusher, is that so hard to understand?

[bloodsunday]

Manning
Brady
Big Ben
McNabb
Palmer
Hasselbeck
Delhomme
Brees

Top 5?

Plummer has a funky delivery and short arms his throws for some reason and has problems throwing out of the pocket. And at 32 he won't be able to be scampering around much longer so if we're going to win the SB we better get a play maker in here quick.
I'd say top 5 is a bit much, but top 10 is reasonable. He's not trash. I wouldn't put Hasselbeck, Delhomme, or Brees (maybe even McNabb) as sure-fire better QBs than Plummer. He's in their league. However, there are a lot guys in that league: TrINT, Eli Manning, McNair (at this stage), and Leftwhich for example. All these guys are on roughly the same level (right now) and all can lead complete, balanced teams to the playoffs. I'm sorry but I just have not seen Jake carry this team the way an elite QB like Brady or Manning does. Even the biggest of Jake fans have to admit that we have gotten more out of him by asking him to do less. He was the comeback king in Arizona and he only has one or two comebacks on a superior team in Denver.

[bloodsunday]

I know this much, we must bring back two of these three: Warren, Lepsis, and Nalen.

However, as much as I like Tommy, I have been reading some good things about Nick Mangold from Ohio State. How about a guy like that in the second round?

[eddie mac]

I know this much, we must bring back two of these three: Warren, Lepsis, and Nalen.

However, as much as I like Tommy, I have been reading some good things about Nick Mangold from Ohio State. How about a guy like that in the second round?

I actually think we'll get all 3 back. I dont see a bidding war for any of them considering their size.

[Rausch]

I think he's a goner. The way it's structured leaves only 1 million of dead money
or so

That's my point.

Only the Raiders know if/when they plan to cut/restructure deals like his.

Those numbers haven't hit the cap yet and we have no idea how many of them ever will. Those are all numbers players COULD make, not will make.

[ND Bronco Fan]

I know this much, we must bring back two of these three: Warren, Lepsis, and Nalen.

However, as much as I like Tommy, I have been reading some good things about Nick Mangold from Ohio State. How about a guy like that in the second round?


If we were to bring in someone on the offensive line in the second round of the draft I hope its Greg Eslinger from Minnesota.

[ludo21]

If we were to bring in someone on the offensive line in the second round of the draft I hope its Greg Eslinger from Minnesota.


Mangold or Eslinger wouldnt bother me at all.:strong:

[watermock]

Every year there's a Chiefs/Broncos/Raiders/Redskins will be in cap hell thread.

Every year nothing similar to cap hell happens for any of them.

The only thing that appears obvious is that no one outside of the teams and their front offices really know the true cap numbers.

The thing that has always...well recently bothered me is that stupid NFLPA site never gives out actual cap numbers, at least I can't find them. They list salaries only. Some of these guys have 600k salaries but just cashed a 15 million dollar signing bonus.

It's no wonder we are left totally baffled with his cap stuff. For example, even if Pryce is let go, he still will cost 2.6 against the cap in "dead" money. IHOP rode off into the sunset giggling like a schoolgirl who stole lunch money out of the teachers desk. The list of thieves in the night is long and disgusting...Dale Carter, Ryan Leaf...Phillip Rivers hasn't gotten a chance, but he's being paid a kings ransom as well to hold a clipboard. T.O. will still keep his signing bonus most likely because the league didn't suspend him, the team did. I'll bring in T.O. because he's likely hungry and embarrased after they took off his diaper and spanked him. But I don't give this flava clown dime one in SB. I will give him incentives up the ying yang that he could make 5 million, but he's getting a vet base salary so if he screws up or makes a foul odor in the locker room and press, we just do the same thing Philly is doing. Andy Reid is a very level headed HC...and patient...he tried like hell to make it work. When he finally snapped, it was a full annulment of a marriage of convenience. I wouldn't want this in a million years if Watts wasn't a bust and Rod getting Social Security. T.O. is no spring chicken either, but we could probably stand him till we get a franchise WR/TE. I'm absolutely salivating for that Davis kid.

[Dagmar]

I'm absolutely salivating for that Davis kid.
WHo is this "Davis" kid that is making mock come over all http://msn.mess.be/data/thumbnails/16/hanni.jpg ?

[Atlas]

the fact that we trailed 24-3 and 27-10 and were still in 2 wr sets tells us something.
sure, we kept tight ends in to help pass protect, but does anyone NOT think that if we had another REAL threat at wr they wouldnt have been out there?


jake
Exactly. Denver needs a great third WR. Lelie and Rod on the outside and Owens running from the slot.
Cut Alexander
Nate Jackson, Duke and Putz at TE next year.

[broncohaven]

Thanks goes to the NFLPA.com for the info.

Just a few high caps and possible fixes.

Rod Smith 3.0 Mill (restruct)

Stephen Alexander 1.1 Mill (With Jeb, Duke I say cut the guy)

Jake Plummer 4.3 Mill ( Restruct)

Mike Anderson 2.5 Mill (It's been fun but not at 2.5 Mill Cut em)

Courtney Brown 1.4 Mill (resonable, may restruct)

Eb. Ekuban 3.0 Mill (see ya)

Trevor Pyrce 6.5 Mill (WHAT! goddbye former Bronco)

John Englberger 1.7 Mill ( emmm he could be a starter in 06 Restruct)

Champ Bailey 5.5 Mill (I like ya Champ, but you got to restruct that some)





So you can see that the bulk of the team is low contracts. The major money guys are easy cuts.

Jake/Rod/Champ are sure to restructure their deals.

Easliy making that supposed 25 Mill over disapear and become a surpluss to sign the two #1's and get a few free agents!

This could be a great off season!
Here are the cap numbers I would need to see from these guys in order to keep them around.

Rod Smith- $2.0-2.5M The 2.0 being better.

Stephen Alexander- Veteran Minimum or bust.

Jake- $3.0-3.5M

Mike Anderson- $1.0M I think Dayne is a better option.

Courtney Brown- $2.0M All told. Great against the run.

Ekuban- $1.5M like the attitude and leadership, hate the cost.

Trevor Pryce- $2.0M and an agreement to play DT.

Engelberger- Vet Min.

Champ Bailey- As long as it's under $10M I'm fine with Champ's #

If they don't meet those numbers I'd cut them.

I'd like to see Warren and Brown back on the DL. I like Ekuban's leadership, but he has to come down in price. I could care less if Pryce is back. He's been overrated for 4 years. We need some SPEED off the edges. We basically have 4 DTs out there, which explains why we need to send two LBs a safety and a CB in order to get pressure.

We sure look for pure edge speed with the early picks. Tamba Hali from Penn State and Daryl Tapp from VT would be two nice options.

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Trevor Pryce our $6.5 million dollar man!!!

2005: Started all 16 games and made 41 tackles (35 solo), a share of the team lead with four sacks (3 yds. –McNabb, 11 yds. –Collins, 3 yds. –Bledsoe and 5 yds. -Brees), a pass defensed and blocked a 38-yard field goal attempt against Washington to contribute to the league’s second-best rush defense. Made one solo tackle at Mia. (9/11). Started the 100th game of his career in the home opener vs. S.D. (9/18) and made two tackles (1 solo) in helping to limit the Chargers to 41 yards in the second half. Contributed nine tackles (7 solo) and drew several holding penalties on Monday Night Football vs. K.C. (9/26). Recorded a solo tackle to help limit the Jaguars to 12 rushing yards, the fewest yielded by the Broncos defense since 1965 (0 yds., at K.C., 12/19/65). Contributed two solo tackles vs. Was. (10/9) and blocked a field goal. Assisted on a tackle vs. N.E. (10/16). Contributed two solo tackles at NYG (10/23). Recorded three tackles (2 solo), including a sack (3yds. –McNabb) and broke up a pass vs. Phi. (10/30). Dropped Eagles’ QB Donovan McNabb for a 3-yard loss for his first sack of the season. Led the defensive line with six solo tackles, including a sack (11 yds. –Collins) and a forced fumble at Oak. (11/13). Came around the end and swatted the ball out of Kerry Collins’ grasp, for a sack and a forced fumble, but the Raiders recovered it. Vs. NYJ (11/20) contributed to the Broncos first shutout since Nov. 9, 1997. Started on a defensive line which limited the Jets to 13 offensive plays in the first half, including just two in the second quarter. He also contributed to limiting the Jets to 22 rushing yards, including holding Curtis Martin to seven rushing yards. Recorded four tackles (3 solo), including a sack (3 yds. –Bledsoe) at Dal. (11/24) on Thanksgiving. Made three solo tackles at K.C. (12/4). Made a solo tackle vs. Bal. (12/11). Added two solo tackles to the win which clinched a playoff berth at Buf. (12/17). Contributed two solo tackles to an effort which helped the Broncos clinch the second seed in the AFC playoffs vs. Oak. (12/24). Made two solo tackles, including a 5-yard sack of Drew Brees in the regular season finale at S.D. (12/31).

Can we clone Champ yet??? Is that legal in the US yet?