View Full Version : Heard through the grapevine
UboBronco
01-18-2006, 07:23 PM
My brother has a contact at a sportsbook in Vegas.... He was told that Big Ben Roth has a torn muscle in his shoulder, suffered in the game against Indy. That he had an MRI, but they have not told the general public, but have informed Vegas. Do we know if he was really hurt last week, or is this just a pipe dream?
GonzoLays
01-18-2006, 07:24 PM
Somebody email DenverBroncos.com!
2KBack
01-18-2006, 07:28 PM
I'm pretty sure they would be required to report that. On the other hand, if I was running the team, I would probably just lie about it and take the fine.
rbackfactory80
01-18-2006, 07:28 PM
Yeah they would tell Vegas, why?
epicSocialism4tw
01-18-2006, 07:29 PM
My brother has a contact at a sportsbook in Vegas.... He was told that Big Ben Roth has a torn muscle in his shoulder, suffered in the game against Indy. That he had an MRI, but they have not told the general public, but have informed Vegas. Do we know if he was really hurt last week, or is this just a pipe dream?
That hit that he took was destined to do some damage. His arm twisted similar to Drew Brees'. It contorted at an awkward angle and plenty of force was applied to the joint. I thought that it was likely that he suffer a dislocation and a tear. It would be proper gamesmanship for the Steelers to pull a Shanahan and keep Denver off balance.
Jason in LA
01-18-2006, 07:30 PM
If Vegas knows, everybody will know pretty soon.
UboBronco
01-18-2006, 07:34 PM
Yeah they would tell Vegas, why?
If yuo really do not think that the NFL has a pipeline to try and keep things, (in the public eye at least) above board, I really believe you are as nieve as a 3 year old and Santa claus. Sorry, but, the NFL and Vegas do have a very strong pipeline of communication.
Taco John
01-18-2006, 07:37 PM
Great. Now we don't know if we should be gameplanning for Ben Roethlisberger or Tommy Maddox... Or even Charlie Batch.
We're screwed!
rbackfactory80
01-18-2006, 07:38 PM
Yeah they would tell Vegas, why?
If yuo really do not think that the NFL has a pipeline to try and keep things, (in the public eye at least) above board, I really believe you are as nieve as a 3 year old and Santa claus. Sorry, but, the NFL and Vegas do have a very strong pipeline of communication.
Yeah I would believe that if this game was of a little less importance.
My brother in law's boy friend managed to sneak this photo of Ben in the training room.
http://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:NRVarqGIDB7BLM:http://www.teamsorrow.4t.com/images/pict0007.jpg
Billy Clyde Puckett
01-18-2006, 07:43 PM
My brother in law's boy friend managed to sneak this photo of Ben in the training room.
http://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:NRVarqGIDB7BLM:http://www.teamsorrow.4t.com/images/pict0007.jpg
Does your brother in law's boy friend go by the name of waffle?
Does your brother in law's boy friend go by the name of waffle?
Wow You know him?? He is the guy with the herpies sores on his lips, same guy??
Rock Chalk
01-18-2006, 08:12 PM
If Vegas knew that, they would be giving Denver 10 points.
UboBronco
01-18-2006, 08:13 PM
Let's see what happens tomorrow, when the injury reports have to come out.
Ray Finkle
01-18-2006, 08:15 PM
My brother has a contact at a sportsbook in Vegas.... He was told that Big Ben Roth has a torn muscle in his shoulder, suffered in the game against Indy. That he had an MRI, but they have not told the general public, but have informed Vegas. Do we know if he was really hurt last week, or is this just a pipe dream?
I doubt it. Cowher and all would have been more tightlipped.....Denver needs to play Ben at close to full %. If they make it to the superbowl, both Delhommey and Hassleback are good throwing QB's.....the need the practice.
Hercules Rockefeller
01-18-2006, 08:16 PM
Let's see what happens tomorrow, when the injury reports have to come out.
They came out today, he's probable
orinjkrush
01-18-2006, 08:18 PM
information warfare; ben's arm looks like mine.
SoCalBronco
01-18-2006, 08:24 PM
Wow. You can just see how everything....literally everything is being paved for us. This is pretty much Moses parting the Nile. Colts...out. Big Ben....possibly (although I dont know about this rumor) out, Foster of Carolina...out, we dont know how Alexander will respond after his concussion.
Unbelievable.
Ray Finkle
01-18-2006, 08:25 PM
Wow. You can just see how everything....literally everything is being paved for us. This is pretty much Moses parting the Nile. Colts...out. Big Ben....possibly (although I dont know about this rumor) out, Foster of Carolina...out, we dont know how Alexander will respond after his concussion.
Unbelievable.
don't be pissing on my pipe dream Socal....I still owe you one for the Pens getting Crosby (as I shake the angry fists)....even those he is a floppa on the ice!:~ohyah!:
Gcver2ver3
01-18-2006, 08:26 PM
I hope Ben is alright....
I don't want any excuses if we win.....
and it'd be even worse if we lost to their backup.....
Ben was throwing today at practice. He looked fine. The thumb is a bigger issue than his arm.
Ray Finkle
01-18-2006, 08:32 PM
Ben was throwing today at practice. He looked fine. The thumb is a bigger issue than his arm.
he is the white version of Steve McNair....the more injuries he has, the better he plays....
wabbit
01-18-2006, 09:11 PM
Yeah they would tell Vegas, why?
Yeah, this kinda leaped out & knocked me around too.
Perhaps the attending physician dropped a line to his bookie in between scans.
As convoluted as this sounds, the casinos DO get the best info...somehow, some way
It does make you wonder
elsid13
01-18-2006, 09:20 PM
When money talks people listen.
If Vegas knows, everybody will know pretty soon.
I'm not so sure. If they didn't that, fewer people would put money on Pittsburgh which is where Vegas will make its money this weekend (because the Steelers are going to LOSE)
minibronco
01-18-2006, 09:30 PM
Yea, the injury report had him practicing, so I don't think it will be an issue.
Honestly, I think this is a joke. Nice try steeler fan. Now let's get to the real issues of who's the better receiver, who has the better runs etc...
Bronx33
01-18-2006, 09:42 PM
Honestly, I think this is a joke. Nice try steeler fan. Now let's get to the real issues of who's the better receiver, who has the better runs etc...
I think your right and to top it off wasn't it his thumb that got hurt in the last game?
Atlas
01-18-2006, 10:48 PM
Yeah they would tell Vegas, why?
My thoughts exactly. Stupid thread.
Vegas_Bronco
01-18-2006, 11:37 PM
Ain't nobody told me shiat!
BlueDamsel
01-18-2006, 11:41 PM
Actually, I noticed they weren't talking MUCH about it, but that they did briefly discuss it the other day right after the game on the NFL Network.
Big Ben did not want to talk about it & skated past the questions. But the announcers did point out that after the injury occured, he only threw 4 times - and was 0-4.
Just my .02
BroncoFanDoug
01-18-2006, 11:50 PM
I'm not so sure. If they didn't that, fewer people would put money on Pittsburgh which is where Vegas will make its money this weekend (because the Steelers are going to LOSE)
Vegas makes money and minimizes risk by picking the line that perfectly splits the votes on either side. They don't give a wit about the final score, or what the spread should be.
Vegas only gets hurt if signficantly more than 1/2 of the bettors are on the winning side. For them to try and figure out the winning side and make their money that way has them playing a risk game instead of a sure bet.
Atlas
01-18-2006, 11:52 PM
Vegas makes money and minimizes risk by picking the line that perfectly splits the votes on either side. They don't give a wit about the final score, or what the spread should be.
Vegas only gets hurt if signficantly more than 1/2 of the bettors are on the winning side. For them to try and figure out the winning side and make their money that way has them playing a risk game instead of a sure bet.
Actually, If Vegas had some huge inside info like that they would make a line so that it would draw people to throw there money at the Steelers. If they new Ben was out and they increased the line a little they could draw all that pitt money and make a klilling.
Actually, If Vegas had some huge inside info like that they would make a line so that it would draw people to throw there money at the Steelers. If they new Ben was out and they increased the line a little they could draw all that pitt money and make a klilling.
And if they were foolish enough to do something like that they would kill the goose that continues to lay golden eggs for a one time gain. They are not that stupid. They know they must keep the game squeaky clean to be able to continue to make this easy money.
BroncoFanDoug
01-19-2006, 08:19 AM
Actually, If Vegas had some huge inside info like that they would make a line so that it would draw people to throw there money at the Steelers. If they new Ben was out and they increased the line a little they could draw all that pitt money and make a klilling.
If they split the bets, they win no matter what. If they have ill-balanced bets then they can win or lose. Its a business on the margin and they make there money on the margin. If they started playing the game differently they would go through a bad stretch and go out of business.
defenseman
01-19-2006, 09:01 AM
We'll see how it plays out. The bottom line, if I'm Cowher and "know" my quarterback may be a question mark , I will hold that info close to the chest until I absolutely have to put it on the table. It was a bad hit, You never know about these things...dman
bronco militia
01-19-2006, 09:06 AM
I thought his elbow up to his tricep was injured?
bronco militia
01-19-2006, 09:08 AM
plus, if only vegas knows why is the spread still 3?
fontaine
01-19-2006, 09:08 AM
Hey it changes nothing as far as I'm concerned.
Coyer is still going to tell his LBs and DBs to gun for Worthlessberger. It's not as if he's gonna tell them to take it easy on the guy. He gets sacked once every 11 dropbacks and much more so away from Home so I expect Denver to bring on the blitz early to try and get to him and bring the heat.
If we can rattle Brady with crowd noise and Lynch/Wilson popping him in the mouth then we can do it to Worthlessberger. C'mon Coyer, you know what to do!
defenseman
01-19-2006, 09:14 AM
the "injury" occured on a hit to the tricep on the back of his right arm. Solid hit, large contusion on the back of his arm. Had problems with his right hand due to hit. Noted massaging the pinky and ring finger on his right hand on sidelines. Indicative of potential shock to the nerve that runs down behind the elbow "funny bone area" down the forearm and to the outer extremities of ones hand. Can be long or short term shock. Who knows? However, it can render some significant loss of "feeling" in ones hand. As far as the bruising, I'm sure he'll find a way to get around that...dman
~Crash~
01-19-2006, 09:33 AM
I dont have much time how did Darent Willams fare he is listed probabe
watermock
01-19-2006, 09:46 AM
Well, as idiotic as they are at NFL.com, they still show Big Ben as a thumb.
I'm not concerned at all. Vegas won't shift the line, they have it too tight IMO...so we just take care of bizzness...
bOObs
01-19-2006, 10:11 AM
This thread is the definition of lame.
Pittsburgh Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger throws during a workout Wednesday, Jan. 18, 2006 in Pittsburgh. The Steelers meet the Denver Broncos in the AFC Championship game on Sunday, Jan. 22, 2006, in Denver.
http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20060118/capt.pagp10601182135.steelers__broncos_football_pa gp106.jpg