View Full Version : Who is your ultimate sleeper in the draft?
Billy Clyde Puckett
01-17-2006, 02:38 PM
Don't give me some big name top line player whe we all know is going to be a first day choice.
Who do you think will go in round 6/7 or be an undrafted free agent that you think has a chance to make an impact in the NFL?
My Choice: Matt Trannon - WR - Michigan State - 6'6", 235 lbs 39" standing high jump. Former Michigan State HS champion in the 200M.
He will probably not be at the combine as he is playing basketball. If he does go to the combine he will not be in football shape. Had 40 catches with a 14+ yard average. Very good hands. Not a burner, but has the size and the jumping ability. Very team oriented with leadership qualities.
Rascal
01-17-2006, 02:47 PM
Kyle Williams of LSU maybe?
Billy Clyde Puckett
01-17-2006, 02:49 PM
Kyle Williams of LSU maybe?
Tell us about him
Rascal
01-17-2006, 02:54 PM
He plays DT for LSU and has been the high mortor guy next to Spears and Wouton the past several years. 6'3" and about 295 I think. This guys is 100% all effort but is limited by his short arms. If he gets in the right system he could be a Hovan type of player.
Mr. Trout
01-17-2006, 05:56 PM
I'll go with this guy:
Charlton Keith, DE, Kansas
6 foot 5, 225--definitely needs to put on some weight but has very good speed and awareness. Can really get after the quarterback and bat down balls.
SoCalBronco
01-17-2006, 10:23 PM
Leonard Peters, FS Hawaii
Billy Clyde Puckett
01-17-2006, 10:29 PM
Leonard Peters, FS Hawaii
Tell us more and why you think he will be good.
Obushma
01-18-2006, 12:06 AM
Travis LaTendresse-WR-University of Utah, 6-1 215lbs.
Has superb hands, but lacks the foot speed to get good YAC. Has good agility to get seperation off the LOS, great route runner. Tied a bowl record w/ 4 TD's vs. GT along w/ 214 yards. Had 810 yards w/ 55 rec and 8 TD's but was out 3 games w/ a high ankle sprain.
He wont ever be a #1 in the NFL, but if he puts on 20lbs and works on his foot speed I could see him being a #2 or a solid #3.
Another name i'd like to throw out there is Hank Baskett
WR, New Mexico 6-4 220 lbs. 4.5 40YD
Only reason i'm postion this kid is I know most of you on here are BCS homers and might not of heard of him. He's definetly day 1 material and I wouldn't be suprised to see him go mid-late 2nd round. Huge playmaker for the Lobos, had 67 rec. 1071 yards w/ 9td's. Check out this kid, he will definetly be a solid #2 in the NFL.(Got shut down by my boy Eric Weddle, who also shut down Calvin Johnson in the Emerald Bowl. Weddle will be our S replacement for Lynch in 2007 I pray)
Billy Clyde Puckett
01-18-2006, 06:09 AM
Saw both of those guys a couple of time this year including the Utah - GT game. Not sure Baskett will go as early as you think, but both are worth a shot.
RocBronc
01-18-2006, 10:23 AM
A local guy that I think will really surprise in the pros is DT Vaka Manupuna from CU. He may not be a star but he will be a contributing DT on some team in the NFL IMO...
DBroncos4life
01-18-2006, 08:38 PM
Richie Ross, UNK. 6'4" 205. He got a combine invite.
http://www.lopers.com/football/bios/Bios3.pdf
http://www.lopers.com/football/pressbox/05pressbox/Ross1.pdf
If he does get drafted its because of a great combine.
DBroncos4life
01-18-2006, 08:43 PM
http://www.lopers.com/football/pressbox/05pressbox/Ross2.pdf
his 05 stats
Master___Pain
01-19-2006, 11:08 AM
Jeremy Bloom. (Yes, it is a tad bit of a homeristic pic)
He will wow them at the combine and his speed will drop jaws. They'll be looking at the stop watches, then at each other, back down at the stop watch in pure amazement.
The media will glomb on to him though, so "sleeper" may not be the best term for him.
27atwater
01-21-2006, 02:23 PM
Jerious Norwood, RB, Mississippi State
fastest RB in the draft and has racked up 2 1,000 yard season on a crappy team. Could add a few pounds, but he's my sleeper, would ba\e a great fit to share the ball w/ MA or another bruiser type back.
Gerrick McPhearson, CB, Maryland
SPEED, SPEED and more SPEED. Very good cover man for the Terps and UMD has had a recent history of very good defenders...foxxy, carolina's DT, cincy's S, etc.
longtimer
01-21-2006, 11:23 PM
Kevin Boothe
Height: 6-4 | Weight: 327 | 40-Time: 5.40
Official Bio
Strengths:
Has great size and a big frame with long arms...Strong and isn't satisfied just to beat his opponents, he wants to dominate them...Shows excellent quickness and good feet...Equally effective as both a run and pass blocker...Versatile and has experience at right tackle, left tackle and guard...Should work out well due to his combination of size / speed / strength...Still has a lot of upside and potential.
Weaknesses:
Has not played against top talent...May struggle to handle the speed rushers he will see in the pro ranks...Will likely have to make the move from college tackle inside to offensive guard at the next level...Has dealt with some injuries in the past but has managed not to miss much playing time...Still a bit of a project who will need some time to adjust and make the drastic jump in competition.
Notes:
A perenial selection to the All-Ivy team...Has all the physical tools you look for and has been a big fish in a small pond in the Ivies...One of the top sleeper prospects in the draft who could surprise and go much higher than anyone might think.
Billy Clyde Puckett
01-22-2006, 10:37 AM
Kevin Boothe
Height: 6-4 | Weight: 327 | 40-Time: 5.40
Official Bio
Strengths:
Has great size and a big frame with long arms...Strong and isn't satisfied just to beat his opponents, he wants to dominate them...Shows excellent quickness and good feet...Equally effective as both a run and pass blocker...Versatile and has experience at right tackle, left tackle and guard...Should work out well due to his combination of size / speed / strength...Still has a lot of upside and potential.
Weaknesses:
Has not played against top talent...May struggle to handle the speed rushers he will see in the pro ranks...Will likely have to make the move from college tackle inside to offensive guard at the next level...Has dealt with some injuries in the past but has managed not to miss much playing time...Still a bit of a project who will need some time to adjust and make the drastic jump in competition.
Notes:
A perenial selection to the All-Ivy team...Has all the physical tools you look for and has been a big fish in a small pond in the Ivies...One of the top sleeper prospects in the draft who could surprise and go much higher than anyone might think.
Have not seen him, but sounds perfect for the Broncs. Could use a RG with power and quickness.
yerner
01-29-2006, 11:16 AM
Mike Bell out of Arizona. Big, strong and I hope fast. All depending on his 40 time, but he has that one cut burst to him like TD. I'll be interested to see how he grades. He was just in a awful program. To me he just looks like a pro. But what the hell do I know.
Billy Clyde Puckett
01-29-2006, 01:37 PM
Mike Bell out of Arizona. Big, strong and I hope fast. All depending on his 40 time, but he has that one cut burst to him like TD. I'll be interested to see how he grades. He was just in a awful program. To me he just looks like a pro. But what the hell do I know.
I have some very strong contacts in the AZ athletic Dept. They are all cheering for Bell to make it, but are not very optimistic.
27atwater
01-29-2006, 03:43 PM
he looked pretty damm good in the game yesterday.
William Kershaw, OLB, Maryland. The trio of terror in 2004 was Merriman, D'Qwell Jackson and Kershaw. We've all seen Merriman. Jackson may be a 1st rounder. What will Kershaw do? I dunno, but he could be a steal in the 5th or 6th if yer looking for a real sleeper.
Elway777
01-29-2006, 05:10 PM
Mike Bell out of Arizona. Big, strong and I hope fast. All depending on his 40 time, but he has that one cut burst to him like TD. I'll be interested to see how he grades. He was just in a awful program. To me he just looks like a pro. But what the hell do I know. Bell would make a good 4 round maybe end of 3 draft pick..
OrangeShadow
01-29-2006, 05:18 PM
not necissarily an ULTIMATE sleeper but
Brian Calhoun is a guy i really want us to draft. wisconsin ran the stretch play so he should fit well here
Elway777
01-29-2006, 05:28 PM
4. CB David Pittman, 5-11 175, Northwestern State (LA) (1AA)
Pittman is headed for the Hula Bowl and the Las Vegas All-American Classic all-star games in January 2006, he was recently named as a first-team Division I-AA football All-American by The Sports Xchange. He has been a four-year letterwinner and three-year starter for the Demons, he was also a two-time first-team All-Southland Conference selection. Playing a "cover corner" position in the Demons' aggressive Purple Swarm defense, he had career totals of 153 tackles, 11 interceptions and 26 pass breakups while scoring four touchdowns on returns and blocking two kicks. He had 36 tackles, an interception, a fumble recovery and nine pass breakups this year while opposing teams typically avoided throwing in his direction. Regarded as a possible NFL Draft choice in April, Pittman began the season on the 16-man watch list for the Buck Buchanan Award given to the top defensive player in Division I-AA. He will need to get a lot stronger to play effective at the next level. He reminds me of the small cover corner for the Denver Broncos Domonique Foxworth.
5. Update on OLB/DE Chris Gocong from Cal Poly (1AA):
Winner of the prestigious Buchanan Award which is awarded to the top defensive player in Division 1AA. He finished the 2005 season with 98 total tackles (46 solo), including a school-record 23.5 sacks and 31.0 tackles for lost yardage, leading the Mustangs to a 9-4 record and a second straight Great West Football Conference championship. Gocong was also named the Great West Football Conference Defensive Player of the Year and has 42.0 career sacks, 1.5 sacks shy of the career mark set by Tom Carey (1985-88). Chris Gocong has been selected to play in the Las Vegas All-American Classic on January 14.
Hatcher has nice size, the Second Team THE SPORTS XCHANGE Division 1AA All-American finished with 71 total tackles (49 solo) with 21.5 tackles for loss and 11.0 sacks. He had one forced fumble, 16 QB hurries, a pass breakup and a blocked kick.
nst conference opponents. Kimball appeared in 45 games and earned four varsity letters during his career.
12/9/05
1. Update on DE A. J. Schable, 6-4 285, South Dakota (Division II):
Finished the season as the ?sack? and ?tackle for loss? (TFL) champion in all of Division II. Recorded 18.5 sacks and 22 TFL. Schable flashes serious size, speed and production and could be a late round draft pick in the 2006 NFL Draft.
http://www.usdcoyotes.com/sports/football/files/AJ_Schable.pdf
3. LB Brent Hawkins, 6-3 244, Illinois State (1AA)
The much traveled Hawkins is a legitimate NFL prospect, he was originally recruited and signed to play for Purdue University and was the 59th rated LB in the nation by Rivals, but sat out in 2001 and redshirted with a stress fracture in his foot. In 2002/2003 he transferred to Lewis and Clark JR College and just played basketball. In 2004 he transferred to Illinois State where he took up football again, he sat out 2 games with a broken finger, but still led the league in tackles for loss (TFL) with 12 and an addition 3 sacks. This year (2005) he is leading the league (Division 1AA) with 15 sacks and an additional 22 TFLs.
Broncoman13
01-30-2006, 12:19 PM
I've got two names for ya! Good thread btw.
#1. Cedric Griffin, CB UTex
I've watched plenty of UT games this year and every game I make sure to watch Michael Huff. He is very talented and makes a ton of plays, but Cedric Griffin (in the games I watched) matched his play making ability. I've seen him make plays on the ball in the air as well as come up and make big hits on RB's and TE's. He doesn't have great speed (timed) but you can't tell while he's on the field. He's a gamer, meaning his intensity level rises and he makes the plays when it counts. During practice this week at the Sr. Bowl he was very inconsistent. However, when the "lights came on" he was back to his usual self, making plays. That included a diving INT of a Cutler pass in the endzone, which most of you probably saw... it was a great play and he had several of those plays during the season.
The other name I have is Michael Robinson. I've brought him up several times in the past couple weeks. The guy is a play maker. Put the ball in his hands and he makes plays. In all honesty, he's a more athletic Anquan Boldin. Boldin ran in the 4.6's or 4.7's if memory serves. Robinson is expected to run in the low to mid 4.5's. He needs work and will obviously be a bit of a project at the WR position, and he may never reach the status of a Boldin, Ward, or Randle El, but I don't think it's a stretch to say that he will easily be another Arnaz Battle with the potential of being a Boldin or Ward type player. IMO, I'd glady use a 4th round pick on him and maybe even consider a comp. 3rd depending on his projections in the draft. If we feel he's a late 5th rounder then use a 4th and make sure you get him. If we feel he's a late 4th, then use a late 3rd to secure him. The sky is the limit for this guy!!!
In a perfect world, we draft Michael Robinson and Cedric Griffin in the 4th round.
Rascal
01-30-2006, 12:20 PM
Kyle Williams of LSU maybe?
Sounds like my boy had a good week in the senior bowl and raised his stock.
Rascal
01-30-2006, 12:24 PM
Another guy to watch for IMO...
Victor Adeyanju. DE from Indiana who weighs 275, is 6'4" and runs a 4.61. He is raw, but given some instruction this guy could be a steal.
Some other guys are Joseph Addai of LSU, Gerald Riggs of Tennessee, and Mike Bell of Arizona. Both are not your top tier RB's but have the potential to have good NFL careers. I would rather us pick one of these guys then use our first rounder on RB when we need other positions filled much more so.
Rascal
01-30-2006, 12:27 PM
Does anybody know anything about Ray Edwards or Julian Jenkins? Both are DE's with good size but don't know about their speed or how they do against the run or pass.
Broncoman13
01-30-2006, 12:31 PM
I'd rather go with Ricky Williams and send a 3rd or whatever to Miami.
Adeyanju reminds me of a Hampton product last year or the year before. Can't remember his name now... but he was a 4.5 type guy at the DE position. Seems like his name was Issac something or other. Anyhow, he made the squad and got some playing time last year. I'll admit that I'm intrigued by Adeyanju's size:speed, but I don't remember him being mentioned during the season. That means his production wasn't what it could or should be with his measureables. I'd draft him, maybe as high as the third round, but I'd go in knowing that he is probably a project with high reward projectability.
That being said, if you like Adeyanju then you probably have to like Manny Lawson in the 2nd round. Less bulk, but you can't really tell on the field... plus he's been very productive in a tough conf.
Rascal
01-30-2006, 12:41 PM
Lawson only weighs what 230?
Sorry but that guy would be easy to run block. And use him in only passing situations...sorry but good teams can game plan a guy if they choose. I want a DE that can be on the field at all times and get pressure.
I think Victor had 40 some tackles, 10 for a loss, and 7 sacks in the Big Ten...and had good games against tough opponents.
He won't be a reggie white or anything but I think his size, and with his frame he can add more according to Scott Wright, he would be a good strong side DE.
Broncoman13
01-30-2006, 01:01 PM
Lawson weighed 240.
Adeyanju weighed 268. Against top comp. Michigan, Ohio St., Minn., and Purdue he had 1.5 sacks. 1 against OSU. He had 32 tackles (solo) with 12 TFLs. 6.5 sacks. 2 were against Kentucky, 1 against MSU, 1 against Central Michigan.
Manny Lawson had 1 against VaTech, 2 against UNC, 1 against Southern Miss, 1 against FSU, 1 against BC (Kiwi had 3.5 in that game!), 1 against Middle Tenn St., 1 against Maryland (Mario had 4 that game!!!), and 1 against SFla in the bowl game.
I think I'm missing a game somewhere b/c he had 10 on the season. At any rate, I'm a firm believer in "You don't have to play against top comp. to be a standout football player", so I'm not using the comp to make my point. I will use production though. Lawson has produced and guys like he and Kiwi are automatically labeled poor vs the rush b/c of their size. I seem to remember Jason Taylor having the same mark against him and honestly, I'm not concerned with the run right now... I want to see somebody with the moves and speed to get to the QB. If Adeyanju has the moves (pass rush) then I'm all for it... I know Lawson has them.
Elway777
01-30-2006, 06:06 PM
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RODERKUS WRIGHT
(Ex-Oregon/Grossmont JC, CA)
6050, 270 pounds, 4.65
PROFILE:
Try not to laugh when you read these stats, but keep reading to better understand how they came about? 65 tackles, 45 tackles for loss, 26.5 sacks, 66 QB hurries, five blocked kicks, five forced fumbles, five fumble recoveries and four pass breakups in 13 JC contests this year? games reviewed include San Jacinto, Victor Valley, Antelope Valley, College of the Canyons and City College of San Francisco; many of which he only played into the early portion of the second half?
He was originally recruited to Oregon, as one of the team's top high school prospects, even started several games early in his career? had 16 tackles, four sacks and two forced fumbles, as a sophomore; watch his performance against USC and first-ever game versus Idaho? was also athletic enough to play on several special teams, including kickoff coverage? struggled with both academics and off-field issues, as he learned to start maturing while being away from his home in California?
Having grown up with several distractions and issues surrounding him, Wright took a brief detour to Portland State, which did not workout, but finally made a way for himself at the JC level this season? even helped lead his team to the mythical JC National Championship? at times this season he looked like a professional playing against high school level blockers?
Wright has an amazing wingspan to go along with terrific natural athleticism and rare speed for a player of his size? plays with good pad level and leverage... still raw at times, but has shown great maturity over the past 18 months our staff has spoken with him? which was never more evident than by one of his recent statements, "Right now my only goal is to help win this title, so we can send our coach (Dave Jordan) home with a much-deserved championship"?
He has grown into his roughly 6050, 270-pound frame, nearly 20 pounds heavier than he was back in 2001? has hit between 37.5"-40" on the vertical, while also being timed between the mid-4.6-to-early-4.7 range in the 40? now plans take the path less traveled to the NFL, as he has starting training since the end of his season? will turn 24 years-old in late March of 2006... could this be the next Eric Swann? only time will tell?
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27atwater
01-30-2006, 09:27 PM
some people are just players, no matter what the size. Manny can add 15 lbs to get to 255 and be fine against the run, yet still blaze by OTs who can't handle his speed. I want players, not cookie cutter molds. Manny is a player.
OrangeShadow
01-31-2006, 05:00 AM
agreed^where do you see him going though? will he last till our round 2?
Elway777
01-31-2006, 07:59 AM
After the combine Lawson will shoot up the draft board just line Merriman last year. Lawson might not make it to our 22 pick. If lawson falls to our 22 or 29 pick then I would consider drafting him because of potential and speed. Lawson should be the fastest de in the draft. My guess is New England or takes him with 21 pick.
Rascal
01-31-2006, 08:07 AM
The guy weighs 230-240 or whatever it is. Jason Taylor weighs 265...big difference. The guy is going to be a liability against the run I guarantee it. With our LB's we need bigger guys up front because our LB's are fast but they are undersized.
Broncoman13
01-31-2006, 08:46 AM
The guy weighs 230-240 or whatever it is. Jason Taylor weighs 265...big difference. The guy is going to be a liability against the run I guarantee it. With our LB's we need bigger guys up front because our LB's are fast but they are undersized.
Jason Taylor weighs 255 (Dolphins listed weight currently) which is probably a little high. When drafted he weighed 245.
Jevon Kearse finished his rookie season (in the SB) at 230!!! He now weighs in at 255.
Again, I'm not concerned with the run right now. We were near last in the league in sacks, we need an edge rusher with the speed and moves to get to the QB.
Rascal
01-31-2006, 08:49 AM
We will see if we even draft him.
Mediator12
01-31-2006, 12:48 PM
Lawson definitely reminds me of Jason Taylor, except taller! I would be all for that speed and Height in the Pass rush. Dude could definitely put on 15-20 LBs without losing speed at that Height. I want a pass rushing football player. I do not care what his numbers are and Lawson looks the pass rushing part to me. Lots of guys at that position are undersized and play every down.
Dwight Freeney is 260 soaking Wet, Jerome Kearse is 260, Derrick Burgess is 260, Jason Taylor is 255, Robert Mathis 235 on the SDE, John Abraham 258, Bryce Fisher 260.
I know you would prefer an everydown guy that looks like Julius Peppers, but even Peppers has been criticized for being ineffective against the run at 6'7 285. Right now I just want some legitimate outside pass rush in third and 7+ plays.
Broncoman13
01-31-2006, 02:44 PM
Ahh, the voice of reason!
Seriously though. If we are actually looking for a DE that can get to the QB I think you could do a lot worse than Manny Lawson. I would think long and hard about taking him over Tamba b/c of his speed and length. Leverage is overlooked. Weight isn't the end all, if he knows how to get leverage from his frame he'll be a player. Plus you know he's already developed some pass rush moves. He's not a guy that I vision coming in and getting 15 sacks a season, but I think 8-10 (if he's allowed to pin'em back and get after the QB) is certainly within reach.
Rascal
01-31-2006, 02:54 PM
Are you sure his only move isn't simply a speed rush? That's the problem with a lot of fast DE's in college.
Elway777
02-01-2006, 09:01 AM
DT John McCargo ~ North Carolina State -- A 6' 2", 295-pound defensive tackle, who had at least one tackle for a loss in each of games he played in 2005, including four against Clemson. We think very highly of McCargo, who was our 2nd ranked defensive tackle in the junior class during the season, behind Haloti Ngata of Oregon.......There were times, before his foot injury, that McCargo looked like the Pack's best defensive lineman early in the season. Great combination of size, quickness, agility and power.......McCargo had 35 tackles (10 for losses), 1 sack and 7 quarterback hurries in only 6 games. May've been better served staying another season in college, but don't be surprised if he's selected in the top 2 rounds if he can get back in playing shape (gained weight during his injured period) and put forth solid workouts.
Broncoman13
02-01-2006, 09:17 AM
Are you sure his only move isn't simply a speed rush? That's the problem with a lot of fast DE's in college.
Yes. I've seen him use spin moves, hump moves, and the outside speed rush. I've also seen him try to bull rush... which wasn't effective, but not as funny as it may sound. He got a push, just not enough to get to the QB.
footstepsfrom#27
02-02-2006, 03:48 AM
Here's a couple...
http://www.scifimoviepage.com/dvd/sleeper-dvd.jpg
http://www.joe-ks.com/archives_sep2004/SleeperAgent.jpg
Elway777
02-03-2006, 07:15 AM
[THE HUDDLE REPORT]
Montavious Stanley DT Louisville
Strengths
Montavious has good size and strength for his position. He uses his hands well to shed his man and has good lateral quickness and strength to cover his gap responsibilities. Montavious has marked quickness off the snap and does have some pass rushing skills. He can be used in any kind of front 3/4 as a DT or 4/3 as a nose guard.
Needs to Improve
Montavious just needs more experience at the next level. He really is an excellent DT at the college level.
Bottom Line
I would take Montavious over Marshmallow Man (Gabe Watson) any day. When you see a quality DE making a lot of plays in a game, most of the time there is a DT that is controlling the middle of the line. If not, all anybody has to do to nullify the impact of the quality DE is to run away from him. This happens a lot of times to quality DE?s in their senior years. It is not happening to Montavious, so the first thing I do is look inside and BAM! There he is right in front of your eyes -- all 6?2? 321lbs for the world to see, a dominating DT. I don?t have a clue where this kid will go in the draft. I am always amazed that there aren?t more of them that are first rounders. This kid has first round, Pro Bowl talent. He is as good as any of the first round picks in the last few years, so it will be interesting to see where he will be rated and in what round he is taken. If your team picks him, you?re going to get a hell of a player.
by Drew Boylhart
THR
November 2005
broncohaven
02-05-2006, 07:37 AM
Steve Fifita-DT, Utah, is my guy. He's undersized at only 6'0", but he's an absolute ox. He faced double teams every down, and still wreaked havoc in the backfield. He squats 675 and benches 460, and is quick and relentless. He was the best player on the field in last year's fiesta bowl. He reminds me of Robinson from the Jets; built a little like a bowling ball, but can bring it.
Obushma
02-05-2006, 01:12 PM
Steve Fifita-DT, Utah, is my guy. He's undersized at only 6'0", but he's an absolute ox. He faced double teams every down, and still wreaked havoc in the backfield. He squats 675 and benches 460, and is quick and relentless. He was the best player on the field in last year's fiesta bowl. He reminds me of Robinson from the Jets; built a little like a bowling ball, but can bring it.
:thumbs:
SoCalBronco
02-07-2006, 01:17 AM
In addition to Leonard Peters who I mentioned before, id have to go with LB Kevin Simon of Tennessee, who is a great LB when healthy. He'll probably go on Day 2 but he is an excellent LB.
Elway777
02-07-2006, 09:45 AM
5. DE Clayton Farrell, 6-4 275, Abilene Christian University (D2)
Dominated the sixth annual Cactus Bowl, earning Defensive MVP honors as the West team whipped the East, 49-33, at Javelina Stadium. Farrell, who was named to multiple all-America squads after the 2005 season, had five tackles (five solo), four sacks and one forced fumble to lead the West's defensive effort. He set a Cactus Bowl record for sacks in a game, and the 34 yards in losses on the four sacks is also a bowl game record. Farrell finished his ACU career ranked in the top five in all-time sacks and tackles for a loss in NCAA Division II history. He was also a finalist for the Gene Upshaw Award signifying the top lineman in Division II football, an award that went to Grand Valley State's Mike McFadden. Not invited to the combine but could be a valuable free agent.
Billy Clyde Puckett
02-07-2006, 10:22 AM
5. DE Clayton Farrell, 6-4 275, Abilene Christian University (D2)
Dominated the sixth annual Cactus Bowl, earning Defensive MVP honors as the West team whipped the East, 49-33, at Javelina Stadium. Farrell, who was named to multiple all-America squads after the 2005 season, had five tackles (five solo), four sacks and one forced fumble to lead the West's defensive effort. He set a Cactus Bowl record for sacks in a game, and the 34 yards in losses on the four sacks is also a bowl game record. Farrell finished his ACU career ranked in the top five in all-time sacks and tackles for a loss in NCAA Division II history. He was also a finalist for the Gene Upshaw Award signifying the top lineman in Division II football, an award that went to Grand Valley State's Mike McFadden. Not invited to the combine but could be a valuable free agent.
Sounds like he might have potential- maybe a good candidate for the PS and NFLE.
Rascal
02-07-2006, 10:28 AM
Another guy to watch for IMO...
Victor Adeyanju. DE from Indiana who weighs 275, is 6'4" and runs a 4.61. He is raw, but given some instruction this guy could be a steal.
Some other guys are Joseph Addai of LSU, Gerald Riggs of Tennessee, and Mike Bell of Arizona. Both are not your top tier RB's but have the potential to have good NFL careers. I would rather us pick one of these guys then use our first rounder on RB when we need other positions filled much more so.
Been hearing his name lately; appears I found somebody else who was/is underrated.
I mentioned his name earlier but here it is again:
Ray Edwards DE of purdue...watch for him as well.
Billy Clyde Puckett
02-20-2006, 09:57 AM
Just to give this thread a bump, another guy I really like is Matt Bernstein, FB of Wisconsin. Got hurt about the third game this year and did not play again. He is one of those "heart" guys. 6'2" 265 pounds - devastating blocker who can get a couple of tough yards almost any play. Good hands. Wish I could remember the game from 2004, but all of the other Wisconisn backs were hurt and they gave him the ball about 25 times. Looked like an old OSU game with 3-4 yards up the middle on every play.
SimonFletcher73
02-20-2006, 11:09 AM
David Anderson - WR CSU
Elway777
02-20-2006, 01:56 PM
Just to give this thread a bump, another guy I really like is Matt Bernstein, FB of Wisconsin. Got hurt about the third game this year and did not play again. He is one of those "heart" guys. 6'2" 265 pounds - devastating blocker who can get a couple of tough yards almost any play. Good hands. Wish I could remember the game from 2004, but all of the other Wisconisn backs were hurt and they gave him the ball about 25 times. Looked like an old OSU game with 3-4 yards up the middle on every play. This guy sounds interesting . Maybe he might be an up grade to Sapp. Sounds like a good short yardade back and great lead blocker. Could be put on ps for a couple of years.
Billy Clyde Puckett
02-20-2006, 02:18 PM
If he recovered from his injury and was back to 2004 form, he would be the starter in place of the people's favorite by the end of the year. He was a better blocker and runner than KJ, but would need development as a receiver.
Jovan Bouknight- WR Wyoming He is a well rounded receiver. He blocks, catches over the middle, great y.a.c. He does it all.
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DBroncos4life
02-20-2006, 02:55 PM
Jovan Bouknight- WR Wyoming He is a well rounded receiver. He blocks, catches over the middle, great y.a.c. He does it all.
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I agree, but he could end up being a Josh Davis, R. Woods, or any other guy like that as well.
WaffleBoy
02-20-2006, 03:28 PM
Carpenter is going to be a "steal" for the Steelers if they get a chance to draft that guy.
The Boy Wonder :super:
Billy Clyde Puckett
02-20-2006, 03:33 PM
Carpenter is going to be a "steal" for the Steelers if they get a chance to draft that guy.
The Boy Wonder :super:
But he is no sleeper - Come on Waffle give us an unknown that will be a very late pick or UDFA.
WaffleBoy
02-20-2006, 03:38 PM
But he is no sleeper - Come on Waffle give us an unknown that will be a very late pick or UDFA.
Brodie Croyle, not an instant impact but a guy I see as a solid qb.
The Boy Wonder :super:
Billy Clyde Puckett
02-20-2006, 03:44 PM
He's no sleeper either. Might be the 4th QB taken, but I would be afraid of him due to his injury history and he is so skinny he could hide behind a broom handle.
Arkie
02-20-2006, 03:47 PM
Greg Eslinger, C, Minnesota
6'3", 285 lbs
size: 7
strength: 7
speed: 8
athleticism: 9
run blocking: 9
pass blocking: 7
technique: 10
power: 7
POSITIVES
Greg is intelligent, an Academic All-American, and that's really a must to play the position at a high level. It often goes without saying that all of what goes into being successful as a center is cerebral, but getting the entire offensive line into the right scheme when coming to the line isn't as easy as it looks. Greg possesses great agility and speed, moving on the field as well as any center you'll see and can cover plenty of ground when in the heat of battle. Above everything else though, his technique is his best attribute. No one works harder on every aspect of the game than he does. He doesn't know the word "quit," and will give you everything he has until the final whistle.
NEGATIVES
The only glaring weakness that Greg is going to face, and it's a serious one, is size. There are a lot of teams that will simply overlook him due to the fact he isn't very big. He needs to add at least 20 pounds to be something special in the NFL. This would also help to boost his power off the line. He might get pushed around by the huge defensive lineman at the next level if he doesn't add weight, and get more power behind the attitude. Pass blocking is also a big question with him as well, again, mainly due to his size, but also from the impression created in the Gopher's running game.
OVERALL
Greg has the ability to fit into several NFL systems even though he lacks some size. Teams such as Denver (with 12 years of Tom Nalen), who do not seem to worry about size so much as athleticism, would be a perfect fit for Eslinger. There are several players at the center position that are making names for themselves (such as Kevin Mawae) who aren't the biggest players, but can physically dominate with speed, technique and toughness. Greg fits into this category as well. An excellent run blocker, it's going to be interesting to see where certain NFL teams have him on there draft boards.
FINAL WORD
It's sad that in today's NFL you MUST BE at least 300 lbs. to be considered top notch. It's going to hurt him if he doesn't at least add some weight. The defensive lineman in the NFL are much bigger, stronger, and quicker than those he faced in college. His dominant performances in college are less likely to transfer to the NFL if he can't add some weight. Nonetheless, through technique and intelligence, he just gets it - he'll be a solid pro for years to come.
http://www.athlonsports.com/images/articles/Minn_Eslinger250.jpg
Billy Clyde Puckett
02-20-2006, 03:52 PM
Elsinger is a damn good player, but he will be drafted on the first day. Don't you have some Matt Jones type sleeper hiding down there in the Ozarks? :)
Arkie
02-20-2006, 04:05 PM
Elsinger is a damn good player, but he will be drafted on the first day. Don't you have some Matt Jones type sleeper hiding down there in the Ozarks? :)
There will never be another Matt Jones. He was numero uno in Arkansas and more of a fan favorite than Steve Atwater, Dan Hampton, and Lance Alworth.
Billy Clyde Puckett
02-20-2006, 04:09 PM
There will never be another Matt Jones. He was numero uno in Arkansas and more of a fan favorite than Steve Atwater, Dan Hampton, and Lance Alworth.
Sounds to me like Arkansas recruited a QB who is expected to make everyone forget Jones.
elsid13
02-20-2006, 04:31 PM
I want throw in Olson from UCLA not a small college guy but seem to final get this year.
Arkie
02-20-2006, 04:34 PM
Sounds to me like Arkansas recruited a QB who is expected to make everyone forget Jones.
Yep. The #1 QB in the country!
http://scout.scout.com/a.z?s=418&p=9&c=4&yr=2006
epicSocialism4tw
02-20-2006, 04:59 PM
Willie McGillicutty DT University of Occidental East Central Alabama State Tech
Billy Clyde Puckett
02-20-2006, 09:04 PM
Willie McGillicutty DT University of Occidental East Central Alabama State Tech
There ya go. that's what I am talking about. Tell us about him. :)
SoCalBronco
02-20-2006, 09:18 PM
Yep. The #1 QB in the country!
http://scout.scout.com/a.z?s=418&p=9&c=4&yr=2006
You guys got the 2nd best QB in Arkansas this year, Bosko. ;D :homer:
Billy Clyde Puckett
02-20-2006, 09:38 PM
You guys got the 2nd best QB in Arkansas this year, Bosko. ;D :homer:
Florida got number one didn't they SoCal? :)
WABronco
02-20-2006, 09:46 PM
Ehhh, I don't know if this guys a real "sleeper," but Joe Toledo of UW may turn out. He plays OT, and he used to be a TE, so he can move pretty good. I dunno, wasn't Lepsis a TE before he moved to tackle?
Clockwork Orange
02-20-2006, 09:52 PM
Justin Holland, QB, CSU.
DivineLegion
02-22-2006, 05:33 PM
Stephen Tulloc and thats not a homer pick thats representing a guy who was third in the NCAA in Tackles and has a motor...hes not gonna impress in the combine but hes got the on field speed that coachs love. He loves contact...reminds me of Troy Pollomalu. We could pick him up late and have ourselves another Kieth Burns for years to come.
Master___Pain
02-22-2006, 05:43 PM
Justin Holland, QB, CSU.
Holland has a rocket arm and was all everything in HS. However, I was never impressed with him in games. It seemed like as soon as he got rattled, he would make an awful play. He could get coached up at the next level, but he really needs to be well protected to be at all effective.
I agree with who ever said David Anderson. He's a freaking stud. Absolutely fearless WR that will do whatever is asked of him. I am very thankful he's no longer at CSU.
Requiem
02-22-2006, 09:19 PM
Greg Jennings, just to name one.
Billy Clyde Puckett
02-22-2006, 09:25 PM
Greg Jennings, just to name one.
Tell Us About him.
BTW - the guy I started this thread with, Matt Trannon, broke his jaw playing basketball and wll now most certainly be a FA. 6'6" - 39" leap, good hands, former 200M state champ. Bring him in Sundquist
Requiem
02-22-2006, 09:31 PM
Jennings is a hair under 6'0 coming it at 5'11 and probably around 195 pounds.
I think he has really good speed, great hands and is a very good route runner. A leader for Western Michigan who was very productive throughout his whole career. He does well getting plenty of yards after the catch and makes very good transitions. Fair blocker.
My main concern is his size, and whether or not he'll be able to be physical enough to get off strong jams when coming into the NFL. Sometimes has trouble getting separated from the defenders, but does a decent job.
Could also be a strong possibilty for a return man as well. I think right now, he's an early day two selections, however with a good combine and workouts, he could very well work his way up into the first day mix at wideout.
phibacka31
02-22-2006, 09:52 PM
Cory Rodgers WR TCU, CLinton Solomon WR IOWA, Ed Hinkel WR Iowa, Antwan Allan CB IOWA.
I know I live in Iowa, but i do watch every game an any of these three iowa guys would be keepers. CAn probably get Allan UDFA, 5'8'', but plays like d will. The three WRs i mentioned I would LOVE to see one with the Orange and Blue on. SOlomon good size. Hinkel a lil smaller, but AMAZING route runner and AMAZING hands, seriously, you need to see some of the grabs he had . Rodgers, I only saw in the bowl game, but he impressed, had like 5 receptions in first 5 min.
Elway777
02-23-2006, 08:52 AM
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RODERKUS WRIGHT
(Ex-Oregon/Grossmont JC, CA)
6050, 270 pounds, 4.65
PROFILE:
Try not to laugh when you read these stats, but keep reading to better understand how they came about? 65 tackles, 45 tackles for loss, 26.5 sacks, 66 QB hurries, five blocked kicks, five forced fumbles, five fumble recoveries and four pass breakups in 13 JC contests this year? games reviewed include San Jacinto, Victor Valley, Antelope Valley, College of the Canyons and City College of San Francisco; many of which he only played into the early portion of the second half?
He was originally recruited to Oregon, as one of the team's top high school prospects, even started several games early in his career? had 16 tackles, four sacks and two forced fumbles, as a sophomore; watch his performance against USC and first-ever game versus Idaho? was also athletic enough to play on several special teams, including kickoff coverage? struggled with both academics and off-field issues, as he learned to start maturing while being away from his home in California?
Having grown up with several distractions and issues surrounding him, Wright took a brief detour to Portland State, which did not workout, but finally made a way for himself at the JC level this season? even helped lead his team to the mythical JC National Championship? at times this season he looked like a professional playing against high school level blockers?
Wright has an amazing wingspan to go along with terrific natural athleticism and rare speed for a player of his size? plays with good pad level and leverage... still raw at times, but has shown great maturity over the past 18 months our staff has spoken with him? which was never more evident than by one of his recent statements, "Right now my only goal is to help win this title, so we can send our coach (Dave Jordan) home with a much-deserved championship"?
He has grown into his roughly 6050, 270-pound frame, nearly 20 pounds heavier than he was back in 2001? has hit between 37.5"-40" on the vertical, while also being timed between the mid-4.6-to-early-4.7 range in the 40? now plans take the path less traveled to the NFL, as he has starting training since the end of his season? will turn 24 years-old in late March of 2006... could this be the next Eric Swann? only time will tell?
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Home | About NextLevel Scouting | Services | Spotlight Archive | Scouting Evaluation I still think this guy is my #1 speeper in the draft. I would definately have a private workout with him to seehow he looks.66 qb hurries and 26 qb stacks is insane at any level. I also I the fact that he also did it aganst major college football players. 2 stacks and 2 forced fumbles in 2 games is pretty good.
