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W*GS
01-16-2006, 11:15 AM
http://www.boston.com/news/globe/editorial_opinion/oped/articles/2006/01/16/katrinas_racial_paranoia

DB-Freak
01-16-2006, 03:18 PM
Good article.

Keeps things in perspective.



Ironically, the focus on African-Americans as victims also ended up perpetuating some racist stereotypes -- such as tales of rape, murder, and other lawlessness among Katrina refugees.

Haha.

The stormfront had a field day of with this event actually.

DB-Freak
01-16-2006, 05:49 PM
http://www.martinlutherking.org/

Wags what you think about this site?

W*GS
01-16-2006, 08:31 PM
http://www.martinlutherking.org/

Wags what you think about this site?

Well, a quick skim shows a link to a "Why MLK Jr. Day should be repealed" PDF file, which is from "www.creator.org", which is a white supremacist website.

I have no patience or tolerance for white supremacist pathetic idiots (but I repeat myself).

DB-Freak
01-16-2006, 09:20 PM
Intriguing........

I thought they had some interesting points and facts about MLK and the blacks.

Kinda brings out a new perspective on things after reading it.

Dizlexus
01-17-2006, 06:54 PM
yep, racist crap. Of course you will find some things that were true but it don't make the man less a great civil rights leader.

BroncoBuff
01-19-2006, 09:06 AM
From that Boston Globe article:

''African-Americans outnumbered whites 51 percent to 44 percent. In the area overall, African-Americans outnumber whites 61 percent to 36 percent."

What difference does that make? I am NOT a guy who sees racial bigotry 'around every corner,' in fact I think blacks are far more racist than whites. But one thing I can't be talked out of: If those faces had been white faces, they'd have got 'em out. 'Brownie' would not have been worrying about his "new shirt" or whatever those e-mails said.

enjolras
01-19-2006, 11:00 AM
But one thing I can't be talked out of: If those faces had been white faces, they'd have got 'em out. 'Brownie' would not have been worrying about his "new shirt" or whatever those e-mails said.

What is your basis for that?

Because as far as I can tell it didn't matter if a the maryland childrens choir was trapped on some roof, FEMA was ill equipped to do anything. The entire organization, top to bottom, was unprepared to help ANYBODY get out of that city.

Unless your somehow implying that Brown had some magical power to teleport human beings that he neglected to use.. I see nothing to support that.

bendog
01-19-2006, 11:09 AM
FEMA didn't do **** in Mississippi, and the areas effected the most are maj white.

alkemical
01-19-2006, 01:15 PM
The majority of the poor is this country are white from what i read last anyway. Media expectations make us think that poor are minorites in the city, when in reality there are lots of poor whites all over suburbia and rural areas.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
01-26-2006, 12:23 AM
Katrina Cover-Up

White House refuses to turn over Katrina papers

WASHINGTON, Jan. 24 - The Bush administration, citing the confidentiality of executive branch communications, said Tuesday that it did not plan to turn over certain documents about Hurricane Katrina or make senior White House officials available for sworn testimony before two Congressional committees investigating the storm response.

The White House this week also formally notified Representative Richard H. Baker, Republican of Louisiana, that it would not support his legislation creating a federally financed reconstruction program for the state that would bail out homeowners and mortgage lenders. Many Louisiana officials consider the bill crucial to recovery, but administration officials said the state would have to use community development money appropriated by Congress.

The White House's stance on storm-related documents, along with slow or incomplete responses by other agencies, threatens to undermine efforts to identify what went wrong, Democrats on the committees said Tuesday.

"There has been a near total lack of cooperation that has made it impossible, in my opinion, for us to do the thorough investigation that we have a responsibility to do," Senator Joseph I. Lieberman, Democrat of Connecticut, said at Tuesday's hearing of the Senate committee investigating the response. His spokeswoman said he would ask for a subpoena for documents and testimony if the White House did not comply.

In response to questions later from a reporter, the deputy White House spokesman, Trent Duffy, said the administration had declined requests to provide testimony by Andrew H. Card Jr., the White House chief of staff; Mr. Card's deputy, Joe Hagin; Frances Fragos Townsend, the domestic security adviser; and her deputy, Ken Rapuano.

Mr. Duffy said the administration had also declined to provide storm-related e-mail correspondence and other communications involving White House staff members. Mr. Rapuano has given briefings to the committees, but the sessions were closed to the public and were not considered formal testimony.

"The White House and the administration are cooperating with both the House and Senate," Mr. Duffy said. "But we have also maintained the president's ability to get advice and have conversations with his top advisers that remain confidential."

Yet even Senator Susan Collins, Republican of Maine, objected when administration officials who were not part of the president's staff said they could not testify about communications with the White House.

"I completely disagree with that practice," Ms. Collins, chairwoman of the Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee, said in an interview Tuesday.

According to Mr. Lieberman, Michael D. Brown, the former director of the Federal Emergency Management Agency, cited such a restriction on Monday, as agency lawyers had advised him not to say whether he had spoken to President Bush or Vice President Dick Cheney or to comment on the substance of any conversations with any other high-level White House officials.

Nevertheless, both Ms. Collins and Representative Thomas M. Davis III, a Virginia Republican who is leading the House inquiry, said that despite some frustration with the administration's response, they remained confident that the investigations would produce meaningful results.

Other members of the committees said the executive branch communications were essential because it had become apparent that one of the most significant failures was the apparent lack of complete engagement by the White House and the federal government in the days immediately before and after the storm.

"When you have a natural disaster, the president needs to be hands-on, and if anyone in his staff gets in the way, he needs to push them away," said Representative Christopher Shays, a Connecticut Republican and member of the House investigating committee. "The response was pathetic."

Even before the House and Senate investigations began, Democrats called for the appointment of an independent commission, like the one set up after the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, to investigate the response to the most costly natural disaster in United States history. The 9/11 Commission, after extensive negotiations, questioned Mr. Bush and Mr. Cheney and received sworn testimony from Condoleezza Rice, then the national security adviser.

"Our fears are turning out to be accurate," Representative Henry A. Waxman, Democrat of California, said Tuesday. "The Bush administration is stonewalling the Congress."

Mr. Duffy, along with officials from the Departments of Defense and Homeland Security, said that although not every request had been met, the administration had provided an enormous amount of detailed information about nearly every aspect of the federal response to Hurricane Katrina.

The Department of Defense, for example, has provided 18 officials for testimony, and 57 others have been interviewed by Congressional staff members, said Maj. Paul Swiergosz, a Pentagon spokesman. It has also turned over an estimated 240,000 pages of documents.

Russ Knocke, a spokesman for the Homeland Security Department, said his agency, which oversees FEMA, had been similarly responsive, providing 60 officials as witnesses and producing 300,000 pages of documents.

But the White House and other federal agencies have been less helpful, members of the investigating committees said, particularly the Pentagon and Secretary of Defense Donald H. Rumsfeld, who is the subject of the sole subpoena issued so far.

Continues: http://www.nytimes.com/2006/01/25/politics/25katrina.html?ex=1295845200&en=ca7cdf4b6a7018b3&ei=5088&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
01-26-2006, 12:25 AM
http://www.bartcop.com/guitar-monkey.jpg
"Lookie me, Pickles - I'm gonna play gee-tar instead of going to work today - Yee Haw!"

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
01-26-2006, 12:39 AM
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epicSocialism4tw
01-26-2006, 01:08 AM
http://www.bartcop.com/guitar-monkey.jpg
"Lookie me, Pickles - I'm gonna play gee-tar instead of going to work today - Yee Haw!"

Well, we know he's played a G chord before. It's too bad that he wasnt interested enough to move it down to the third fret.

By the way, your slander is as rediculous as it usually is. I hope that you are under 20 years old, because that junk is completely useless to an adult. I've never seen someone so obsessed with trying to ruin another person's public image at all cost, including forfeiting your own cerebrum.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
01-26-2006, 03:29 AM
By the way, your slander is as rediculous(sic) as it usually is. I hope that you are under 20 years old, because that junk is completely useless to an adult. I've never seen someone so obsessed with trying to ruin another person's public image at all cost, including forfeiting your own cerebrum.

Awww, am I pickin' on your beloved, Godly, blameless oil emperor again?

Are you sure you and W*GS aren't related?

You both seem to have trouble understanding the concept of political satire.

Garcia Bronco
01-26-2006, 05:48 AM
Well, we know he's played a G chord before. It's too bad that he wasnt interested enough to move it down to the third fret.

By the way, your slander is as rediculous as it usually is. I hope that you are under 20 years old, because that junk is completely useless to an adult. I've never seen someone so obsessed with trying to ruin another person's public image at all cost, including forfeiting your own cerebrum.


It's a fret up tp be a g-chord.

defenseman
01-26-2006, 01:32 PM
Racism , in itself , is despicable. I do believe that there are some in our country, that continue to feed the "line" to the supposed minorities of the US that they are victims of racism, to forward their own selfish political agenda. I just wish the supposed "victims of racism" would wake up and recognize, they are being played by these politicians, as puppets on a string. Really sad. Get over the past and move on, the day will be bright if you let it...dman