Stop the run, Make Plummer beat you..... [Archive] - The Orange Mane

ludo21

01-14-2006, 09:41 PM

Spider

01-14-2006, 09:41 PM

right now terry bradshaw is calling howie long for loving support ...... Bradshaw realy put it out there before the game

loborugger

01-14-2006, 09:42 PM

Plummer 1 INT
Brady 2 INTs

Plummer QB rating 78.5
Brady QB rating 74

Plummer - moving on
Brady - going home

Sgt Sauce

01-14-2006, 09:43 PM

out played... out coached... and hey media..

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GreatBronco16

01-14-2006, 09:44 PM

JAke played fantastic (God???)

I'm sorry. Teddy Brushi was God. Who was Brady again?

yavoon

01-14-2006, 10:11 PM

I thot NE's defense did its job. it was the chokenheimer impersonation they did in the other areas of the game that sunk them.

devour

01-14-2006, 10:23 PM

JAke played fantastic (God???)

Many times this year we passed to set up the run and yet again Shanny tried to do it again. Granted the Pats stopped us a ton better than i thought they would, but that didnt stop Jake from carving up that secondary.

One reason his stats werent there is because we constantly had short drives from great FP. If we had to make a normal drive length i think we still would have passed down their throat!

I totally understand the euphoria after a big win, but to say Jake "carved up the NE secondary" is a bit of a stretch. If you objectively look at the game, Denver won on special teams and defense. The Broncos offense was pretty much shutdown tonight.

Paladin

01-14-2006, 10:26 PM

"The Broncos offense was pretty much shutdown tonight."

Except when it counted. Fact: 27-13.

epicSocialism4tw

01-14-2006, 10:27 PM

kappys

01-14-2006, 10:30 PM

I totally understand the euphoria after a big win, but to say Jake "carved up the NE secondary" is a bit of a stretch. If you objectively look at the game, Denver won on special teams and defense. The Broncos offense was pretty much shutdown tonight.

He basically did exactly what he needed to, which was to play safe mistake free football. True he didn't pick them apart, but he moved the chains and gave the Broncos good field position almost the whole game. The only time the O was really shut down was in the 3rd, and the rest of the time it was all on Jake's shoulders.

In fact the last 4-5 teams that have played us have all brought 8 into the box on every play, with the thought that they could force Jake into mistakes and he hasn't done that yet.

yavoon

01-14-2006, 10:33 PM

He basically did exactly what he needed to, which was to play safe mistake free football. True he didn't pick them apart, but he moved the chains and gave the Broncos good field position almost the whole game. The only time the O was really shut down was in the 3rd, and the rest of the time it was all on Jake's shoulders.

In fact the last 4-5 teams that have played us have all brought 8 into the box on every play, with the thought that they could force Jake into mistakes and he hasn't done that yet.

really? I thot the only time the broncos moved the ball well was on the first long drive and the last td drive, all the pts were pretty much acquired by the defense/special teams/penalty.

epicSocialism4tw

01-14-2006, 10:34 PM

really? I thot the only time the broncos moved the ball well was on the first long drive and the last td drive, all the pts were pretty much acquired by the defense/special teams/penalty.

Jake did collect some big first downs and made several field-position changing plays. His last long throw to Rod essentially sealed the game.

Jake was very effective in the red zone.

Sassy

01-14-2006, 10:41 PM

27 points was SHUTDOWN? Blah.

Kaylore

01-14-2006, 10:43 PM

The Patriots defense did an admirable job. It was the poor offensive and special teams play of the Pats that sank their ship. Strange considering the opposite has been true all season.

Noticed that Dillon didn't have his "break out game"

The MVPlaya

01-14-2006, 10:46 PM

Once again. This gets said on how to beat Denver and if NE does this they will win the game. Well, Plummer had a better game than God himself tonight.

don't even be usin God like that...

GreatBronco16

01-14-2006, 10:48 PM

don't even be usin God like that...

I'm sorry, who are you again?

kappys

01-14-2006, 10:49 PM

really? I thot the only time the broncos moved the ball well was on the first long drive and the last td drive, all the pts were pretty much acquired by the defense/special teams/penalty.

I'm not talking about long drives, I'm talking about moving the ball into midfield and then pinning the opposing team deep. Jake did that consistently. That's how you win against good defenses. Field position, and capitlization on mistakes.

Broncos Rule

01-14-2006, 10:51 PM

bump.

TomServo

01-14-2006, 11:04 PM

Brady under pressure-2 pics.
jake? one pic. a great pic btw.
jake ran for more first downs under pressure that brady had pics.

Cito Pelon

01-14-2006, 11:07 PM

I totally understand the euphoria after a big win, but to say Jake "carved up the NE secondary" is a bit of a stretch. If you objectively look at the game, Denver won on special teams and defense. The Broncos offense was pretty much shutdown tonight.

Solid three-phase teams tend to do well in the playoffs. Keeping your cool helps a lot. So we'll see who's best next week.

yavoon

01-14-2006, 11:07 PM

I'm not talking about long drives, I'm talking about moving the ball into midfield and then pinning the opposing team deep. Jake did that consistently. That's how you win against good defenses. Field position, and capitlization on mistakes.

I dont think I'd go around giving jake the credit for that the bad/good field position in the early game was really just a stalemate of defenses.

Rock Chalk

01-14-2006, 11:12 PM

I totally understand the euphoria after a big win, but to say Jake "carved up the NE secondary" is a bit of a stretch. If you objectively look at the game, Denver won on special teams and defense. The Broncos offense was pretty much shutdown tonight.
Agreed. But I also got the feeling towards the end of the third quarter and into the fourth quarter that New England wasn't going to hang. They were wearing down.

Then it happened, on that last fatal drive.

Denver won in much the same fashion as the Patriots are accostumed to winning.

It is ironic that they are beat at their own game.

devour

01-14-2006, 11:19 PM

Brady under pressure-2 pics.
jake? one pic. a great pic btw.
jake ran for more first downs under pressure that brady had pics.

The first pick was a great play by Champ Bailey. The second pic was pretty much a desperation play and had no bearing on the game. I thought Brady fought hard tonight considering the fact that he was our only offense in a hostile environment. From the tone of these posts, many of you sounded like Jake was a major reason for the victory. I'm not so sure if Jake outplayed Brady. Anyway, we lost to a better team, so there's not much to debate.

Going back to the original topic, the question to Broncos fans should be if Jake play like he did tonight in the RCA dome, do you realistic think your D & special teams can come up with 5 TO against the Colts ? Be objective, can this offense, the way it played tonight, go into Indy and put up 25-30 pts ?

Rock Chalk

01-14-2006, 11:30 PM

The first pick was a great play by Champ Bailey. The second pic was pretty much a desperation play and had no bearing on the game. I thought Brady fought hard tonight considering the fact that he was our only offense in a hostile environment. From the tone of these posts, many of you sounded like Jake was a major reason for the victory. I'm not so sure if Jake outplayed Brady. Anyway, we lost to a better team, so there's not much to debate.

Going back to the original topic, the question to Broncos fans should be if Jake play like he did tonight in the RCA dome, do you realistic think your D & special teams can come up with 5 TO against the Colts ? Be objective, can this offense, the way it played tonight, go into Indy and put up 25-30 pts ?
Ya'll should know that Indy style of game you played tonight (which is what it was, all passing) that didnt win you championship rings.

Personell aside, you gotta stick to that run game and that, I thought, was Belichik's biggest error.

The Big E

01-14-2006, 11:33 PM

The first pick was a great play by Champ Bailey. The second pic was pretty much a desperation play and had no bearing on the game. I thought Brady fought hard tonight considering the fact that he was our only offense in a hostile environment. From the tone of these posts, many of you sounded like Jake was a major reason for the victory. I'm not so sure if Jake outplayed Brady. Anyway, we lost to a better team, so there's not much to debate.

Going back to the original topic, the question to Broncos fans should be if Jake play like he did tonight in the RCA dome, do you realistic think your D & special teams can come up with 5 TO against the Colts ? Be objective, can this offense, the way it played tonight, go into Indy and put up 25-30 pts ?
Can you imagine the crap Jake would be getting if he'd thrown a backbreaking INT as Tommy boy did? Going in for a go-ahead score, but instead getting picked basically for a 100 yard TD. That's kind of a big mistake, is it not? Plummer has always gotten reamed in the past when he'd have big numbers but a badly timed INT, and Brady deserves the same scrutiny. He won't get it, but he should.

yavoon

01-14-2006, 11:38 PM

Ya'll should know that Indy style of game you played tonight (which is what it was, all passing) that didnt win you championship rings.

Personell aside, you gotta stick to that run game and that, I thought, was Belichik's biggest error.

I think two problems happened, one they failed to execute their quick throws to their wr's which is something they needed to supplement their short yardage aresenal. and bellichecks big mistake was using corey dillon in the game. faulk is obviously better, but overall they ran about as much as they should have, they weren't going to wear denver down and they needed points and points come from passing the ball.

devour

01-14-2006, 11:41 PM

Can you imagine the crap Jake would be getting if he'd thrown a backbreaking INT as Tommy boy did? Going in for a go-ahead score, but instead getting picked basically for a 100 yard TD. That's kind of a big mistake, is it not? Plummer has always gotten reamed in the past when he'd have big numbers but a badly timed INT, and Brady deserves the same scrutiny. He won't get it, but he should.

It certainly was a very bad play on Brady's part. I never said he played well, I only said he fought hard, and Jake did not outplay Brady as some have suggested. If you recall, Asante Samuel intercepted him at the Patriot's 11 yard line.

If you consider the fact that the Denver's defense:

1. has a far better secondary than the Pats
2. knows the Patriots has almost no running game and must pass

then you can draw your own conclusions. Look, I'm not trying to start an argument. You guys won fair & square. Congrats and good luck down the road.

devour

01-14-2006, 11:48 PM

Ya'll should know that Indy style of game you played tonight (which is what it was, all passing) that didnt win you championship rings.

Personell aside, you gotta stick to that run game and that, I thought, was Belichik's biggest error.

You probably haven't watch many Pats games this year. There was really no running game this season. Dillon has been banged up/ineffective all year, and Faulk is not an every down back. At one point we were using guys like Amos Zerouse (sp), Heath Evans, and Mike Cloud. The offense was either passing or nothing. Regarding Indy, that offense is actually very balanced, it's their defense that's been the problem; and it seems that problem has been corrected this year.