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PatsRule
01-14-2006, 05:49 PM
I dont see it...maybe it's coming but all week that's all I heard..Where is it

Hercules Rockefeller
01-14-2006, 05:54 PM
I'm still trying to find that new Pats secondary that was supposed to eat up Jake

Popps
01-14-2006, 06:06 PM
Sit back, troll. It's coming.

John C
01-14-2006, 06:07 PM
It looked pretty good on that 4th and 1.

Hercules Rockefeller
01-14-2006, 06:11 PM
Yeah, great pass defense on the bad Plummer throw

John C
01-14-2006, 06:16 PM
Yeah, great pass defense on the bad Plummer throw
I thought it was the "new" Plummer?

Northman
01-14-2006, 06:20 PM
I thought it was the "new" Plummer?


If you cant see the drastic improvement from Plummer this year as opposed to last year than your a complete moron. nuff said.

PatsRule
01-14-2006, 06:25 PM
You said it would not be close...but after 1/2 guess what it's close,,now we may get blown out in the second half...but who knows..

Northman
01-14-2006, 06:27 PM
Not likely, your boys showed up to play so did our D but it wont last the whole game. We need at least some offense to pull this out. This is what i feared all week.

Ratboy
01-14-2006, 06:29 PM
Are two threads really needed? ****ing idiot.

John C
01-14-2006, 06:29 PM
If you cant see the drastic improvement from Plummer this year as opposed to last year than your a complete moron. nuff said.
Obviously he has been a huge improvement. But he is now been put in a position of having to make the plays.

Ratboy
01-14-2006, 06:30 PM
Eat that, PR.

Rock Chalk
01-14-2006, 06:41 PM
You said it would not be close...but after 1/2 guess what it's close,,now we may get blown out in the second half...but who knows..
Lots of football left dickwad.

PatsRule
01-14-2006, 06:44 PM
pass int my ass ...we are owning the line of scrimage and you get a gift ffrom the oficials..

Northman
01-14-2006, 06:45 PM
Obviously he has been a huge improvement. But he is now been put in a position of having to make the plays.


Well of course, if im the Pats i do that very thing. force jake to beat them and so far he has done ok aside from that errant pass.

Northman
01-14-2006, 06:46 PM
pass int my ass ...we are owning the line of scrimage and you get a gift ffrom the oficials..


Its the first gift we've gotten this year thats for sure. Pats are still in it so anything can happen but you did get jobbed there.

epicSocialism4tw
01-14-2006, 06:49 PM
Its the first gift we've gotten this year thats for sure. Pats are still in it so anything can happen but you did get jobbed there.

Got jobbed? The defensive back maintained contact nearly all the way down the field. He tried to go through Lelie to the ball. If he doesnt hit Lelie, that's a standup TD. If they dont call that, they really let things get way out of control.

Spider
01-14-2006, 06:49 PM
BWAA some dynasty, Punter makes you fumble ...... BWAAAAAA we dont even need the running game right now ........... Go ahead Pats Rule say it with me Broncos = Dynasty Killers

SoCalBronco
01-14-2006, 06:49 PM
STFU you ****ing troll.

We are dominating the game and could be easily ahead by 2 TDs.

Sit down and shut up.

Northman
01-14-2006, 06:51 PM
Got jobbed? The defensive back maintained contact all the way down the field. If they dont call that, they really let things get way out of control.


No way, he was looking at the ball the entire time man. any contact that was going on was incidental contact. he did exactly what he is supposed to do and look for the ball.

Cosmo
01-14-2006, 06:52 PM
PI call was a result of Asante Samuel keeping his body on Lelie & slowing down as well as moving to the sideline, Lelie was only trying to get his right arm in front of Samuel to attemt to catch it. Arms aren't the only thing that causes a PI call.

elsid13
01-14-2006, 06:53 PM
Wonder if Brady broke a nail, he bitching like he did

Jason in LA
01-14-2006, 06:53 PM
I'd say the Broncos missed a lot of opportunities before the Pats started fumbling the ball. Two drives in scoring position, one inside the five, and no points. They were winning the field position battle. They were taking it to the Pats. Only problem was it wasn't translating onto the scoreboard.

That last two minutes saved the Broncos. They lost control for a minute after Plummer's pick and Brady's bomb. Getting those ten points was huge, especially because they get the ball back at the end of the half.

Before anybody starts crying about that PI call, Samuel made the mistake of looking away from the ball while making contact with Lelie. Forget what Simms said. That guy is in love with the Pats. He said Samuel never took his eyes off the ball while the replay clearly showed Samuel looking away. I thought it was kind of funny. If Samuel keeps his eyes on the ball it's a legit play. But he didn't, so it was a PI.

It's going to be a great second half. This is what the Broncos do. Get the lead, then run, run, and run some more. I like where we're at right now. Brady seems raddled. He, and the other Pat players seem like they are falling apart.

We'll see what happens in the second half.

Garcia Bronco
01-14-2006, 06:54 PM
It was a terrible call....equally terrible was when it wasn't called on the same player on the 4th and 1 lob at the goal line.

epicSocialism4tw
01-14-2006, 06:54 PM
No way, he was looking at the ball the entire time man. any contact that was going on was incidental contact. he did exactly what he is supposed to do and look for the ball.


I'll just have to disagree with you there...at one point at the end of the contact (when the ball is still catchable), he literally shoves Lelie out of his route. The official was right there watching those two. He made the right call. Remember the Pats DB's mugging the Colts WR's? That's why it is talked about. It doesnt matter if the guy is looking back or not, you cant push the WR out of his route.

Mediator12
01-14-2006, 06:54 PM
No way, he was looking at the ball the entire time man. any contact that was going on was incidental contact. he did exactly what he is supposed to do and look for the ball.

He looked for the ball, and ran the WR away from the ball. The rule reads must play the ball not the man.

Jason in LA
01-14-2006, 06:55 PM
No way, he was looking at the ball the entire time man. any contact that was going on was incidental contact. he did exactly what he is supposed to do and look for the ball.

No he wasn't. Forget what Simms said. The DB looked away from the ball. That's why it was called. If he keeps his eyes on the ball he's good. But he didn't. So it was a PI.

Northman
01-14-2006, 06:56 PM
Before anybody starts crying about that PI call, Samuel made the mistake of looking away from the ball while making contact with Lelie. Forget what Simms said. That guy is in love with the Pats. He said Samuel never took his eyes off the ball while the replay clearly showed Samuel looking away. I thought it was kind of funny. If Samuel keeps his eyes on the ball it's a legit play. But he didn't, so it was a PI.

I hate to defend the Pats but your wrong here. the only time Samuel turned his head away from the ball was when Lelie started to hold him down after the INCIDENTAL contact. it should have been a non call at that point as both players were going after the ball. that was not pass interference.

listopencil
01-14-2006, 06:56 PM
Samuel used his body to drive Lelie to the sidelines. I know it's hard to digest if you're a homer, but the league has mandated that your DB's aren't allowed to molest/assault the opposing WR's anymore. Deal with it and move on. 10-3 at the half and our O hasn't clicked yet. If we can get some drives going on O we've got a good chance of taking this game.

40yrpatsfan
01-14-2006, 06:56 PM
I'd say the Broncos missed a lot of opportunities before the Pats started fumbling the ball. Two drives in scoring position, one inside the five, and no points. They were winning the field position battle. They were taking it to the Pats. Only problem was it wasn't translating onto the scoreboard.

That last two minutes saved the Broncos. They lost control for a minute after Plummer's pick and Brady's bomb. Getting those ten points was huge, especially because they get the ball back at the end of the half.

Before anybody starts crying about that PI call, Samuel made the mistake of looking away from the ball while making contact with Lelie. Forget what Simms said. That guy is in love with the Pats. He said Samuel never took his eyes off the ball while the replay clearly showed Samuel looking away. I thought it was kind of funny. If Samuel keeps his eyes on the ball it's a legit play. But he didn't, so it was a PI.

It's going to be a great second half. This is what the Broncos do. Get the lead, then run, run, and run some more. I like where we're at right now. Brady seems raddled. He, and the other Pat players seem like they are falling apart.

We'll see what happens in the second half.

There's no way that's PI and you know it. Don't lower yourself, it was a horrible call. Admit it.

Jason in LA
01-14-2006, 06:57 PM
I disagree. He looked away from the ball before the ball got there, while he was still out in front of Lelie. He looked away for a good two strides.

40yrpatsfan
01-14-2006, 06:57 PM
I told you guys this would happen. Take away the gift 10 points from the phantom PI and it's 3-0 Pats.

listopencil
01-14-2006, 06:57 PM
I hate to defend the Pats but your wrong here. the only time Samuel turned his head away from the ball was when Lelie started to hold him down after the INCIDENTAL contact. it should have been a non call at that point as both players were going after the ball. that was not pass interference.


So the rumor is true, you are a Patriots fan.

Jason in LA
01-14-2006, 06:58 PM
There's no way that's PI and you know it. Don't lower yourself, it was a horrible call. Admit it.

Did the guy look away from the ball? There is no question about it. Face it, it's a PI.

Hercules Rockefeller
01-14-2006, 06:58 PM
Whine a little more about the PI call pussy, maybe the refs will take it back?

PatsRule
01-14-2006, 06:59 PM
We were dominating you til that call...but we will come back and win this game

PatsRule
01-14-2006, 06:59 PM
you fags

Northman
01-14-2006, 06:59 PM
So the rumor is true, you are a Patriots fan.


Nah, i just love the game and call it the way i see it. Its not that i mind but it was a bad call but it was against them so be it. We would be complaining too if that happened to us.

Jason in LA
01-14-2006, 07:00 PM
It's funny that a Pats fan would say "don't lower yourself" when they'll always defend the tuck rule.

PatsRule
01-14-2006, 07:00 PM
Bull**** calll and u know it

Hercules Rockefeller
01-14-2006, 07:01 PM
Damn, that was harsh

Ratboy
01-14-2006, 07:06 PM
You guys are the worst trolls we've ever had.

Spider
01-14-2006, 07:07 PM
I told you guys this would happen. Take away the gift 10 points from the phantom PI and it's 3-0 Pats.
Waaaaaaaaaa ..... Game isnt over yet

Ratboy
01-14-2006, 07:08 PM
Would you like some cheese with that whine?

Spider
01-14-2006, 07:08 PM
Like the tuck rule BWAAAAAAAAA Mighty Denver Broncos = Dynasty Killers

Ratboy
01-14-2006, 07:09 PM
Bull**** calll and u know it


:Whaaaa!:

Spider
01-14-2006, 07:10 PM
3 rd and 2 , and Brady pulls a mark malone ........... ROFL

Spider
01-14-2006, 07:10 PM
Mighty Denver broncos = Dynasty Killers

PatsRule
01-14-2006, 07:11 PM
ya ok...your going dowwwwwwn

Jason in LA
01-14-2006, 07:12 PM
Bull**** calll and u know it

Answer the question. Did he look away from the ball?

The answer is yes, making it a PI.

Stop crying.

Tombstone RJ
01-14-2006, 07:15 PM
ya ok...your going dowwwwwwn

For me, this is pay back for the none interference call on Lelie in the first pass in the endzone. That's the way I see it.

Lelie was open, the defender never turned his head. Lelie went for the ball. Defender in the way.

Pay back.

Spider
01-14-2006, 07:32 PM
How many Yards was that return ? BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA Broncos = Dynasty Killer

orangemonkey
01-14-2006, 07:59 PM
**** the patriots. they haven't been in the endzone all night. nuff said. move on.

orangemonkey
01-14-2006, 07:59 PM
im sick of this team. go broncos!!!!

orangemonkey
01-14-2006, 08:00 PM
10 wins in the playoffs. yeah but none of them against us.

Spider
01-14-2006, 08:22 PM
good thing we didnt run well or the score would be even worse

Rock Chalk
01-14-2006, 08:23 PM
Does two touchdowns count as a blowout?

Thats a blowout in my book.

Regardless, I called that Denver would win by 2 scores or more. And they will.

No1BroncoFan
01-14-2006, 08:29 PM
I thought it was the "new" Plummer?
Any QB can make a bad throw dumda$$. Speakiing of bad throws, who had more picks, Tom or Jake?

Piss off Patsie trolls!

Ben

GreatBronco16
01-14-2006, 08:45 PM
We were dominating you til that call...but we will come back and win this game


Ok, so what now? The refs made you lose the game?

TomServo
01-14-2006, 08:48 PM
a pats fan complaining @ officiating after the tuck rule game?

but as long as it was against the raiders i loved it.

Cito Pelon
01-14-2006, 08:48 PM
If the D player is riding the O player off the ball with a forearm in the ribs, that's PI. It doesn't matter where his head is, or if he's reaching for the ball.

40yrpatsfan
01-14-2006, 09:01 PM
Answer the question. Did he look away from the ball?

The answer is yes, making it a PI.

Stop crying.

The Patriots had plenty of chances to make up for the bad call, but I don't know what you're talking about. Samuel beat the receiver to the spot and the receiver was trying to go over the top of him. Samuel was in better position to catch that ball than Lelie. He had the inside track. He WAS looking, but he didn't have to be given that he had inside position.

Spider
01-14-2006, 09:05 PM
slippery slope ..... We could alays say , you dont turn the ball over , the bad call never happens ........ Was it a bad call ? yep , but the only thing you can do is cry over it ..... bad calls happen , normaly against us but hey we got one , never should have turned the ball over in the first place ........
face it Bilichick underestamated Plummer , Brady underestamated our Defense .....

davdog
01-14-2006, 09:07 PM
slippery slope ..... We could alays say , you dont turn the ball over , the bad call never happens ........ Was it a bad call ? yep , but the only thing you can do is cry over it ..... bad calls happen , normaly against us but hey we got one , never should have turned the ball over in the first place ........
face it Bilichick underestamated Plummer , Brady underestamated our Defense .....

You can't pin this on BB, he had a great game plan, 5 turnovers killed the pats.

kamakazi_kal
01-14-2006, 09:09 PM
ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh .......... SCOREBOARD.................... nuff said....

Drek
01-14-2006, 09:09 PM
Samuels moved into Lelie's route, making first contact before the ball was within range to make a play on it, forcing Lelie off his route. How is that NOT a PI? Its not that he beat the reciever to a spot, he cut in front of the reciever and stayed in contact for over 10 yards down the field!

halfcreek
01-14-2006, 09:09 PM
Everybody seems to have missed what Samuel did. About 1 second before the ball arrived, Samuel grabbed Lelie's right arm with his left hand and pulled it down before the ball arrived. Hard to see, but I have gone over the play and can see it plain as day.

40yrpatsfan
01-14-2006, 09:10 PM
slippery slope ..... We could alays say , you dont turn the ball over , the bad call never happens ........ Was it a bad call ? yep , but the only thing you can do is cry over it ..... bad calls happen , normaly against us but hey we got one , never should have turned the ball over in the first place ........
face it Bilichick underestamated Plummer , Brady underestamated our Defense .....

I don't think anyone underestimated Plummer or your D, especially Belichick and Brady. You're right that our own fumble set up that play, and that you can expect a bad call every now and then. I was disappointed that the ref right beside the play called it incomplete, but was overruled by another ref without any discussion.

Spider
01-14-2006, 09:10 PM
You can't pin this on BB, he had a great game plan, 5 turnovers killed the pats.
sure I can . stop the Run make plummer beat you ... Plummer played lights out , he underestamated Plummer simple , BB wasnt the only one underestamating Jake everyone did ,but us Bronco fans we knew , we understood .........

orinjkrush
01-14-2006, 09:10 PM
samuel was ridin illegal contact all game long. he got called on an iffy one.

kamakazi_kal
01-14-2006, 09:11 PM
.......... HEY crybrady fans.......... you think that call was the game ... wake up and smell....... THE TUCK RULE......... think u would have won then toooooooo
ahhhhhhhhhhhhh........... no...........

ludo21
01-14-2006, 09:11 PM
If the D player is riding the O player off the ball with a forearm in the ribs, that's PI. It doesn't matter where his head is, or if he's reaching for the ball.


Exactly.

Good call, Lelie was fighting caz he wanted to get to the ball, Samuel was fighting to get Lelie out of bounds, thats illegal in any rule book.

Northman
01-14-2006, 09:12 PM
samuel was ridin illegal contact all game long. he got called on an iffy one.


Dude, you av is highly disturbing. lol

40yrpatsfan
01-14-2006, 09:12 PM
Samuels moved into Lelie's route, making first contact before the ball was within range to make a play on it, forcing Lelie off his route. How is that NOT a PI? Its not that he beat the reciever to a spot, he cut in front of the reciever and stayed in contact for over 10 yards down the field!

Samuel did cut in front of the receiver and assumed inside position. From then on the contact was caused by Lelie from behind on Samuel. Lelie should have been called for offensive PI.

Spider
01-14-2006, 09:14 PM
I don't think anyone underestimated Plummer or your D, especially Belichick and Brady. You're right that our own fumble set up that play, and that you can expect a bad call every now and then. I was disappointed that the ref right beside the play called it incomplete, but was overruled by another ref without any discussion.
Everyone underestamated Plummer , cant tell you how many times we heard , stop the run beat the Broncos , Plummer will revert to Jake the Mistake plummer .. your team was loaded for bear on the running game , that means Bilichick didnt think Plummer could beat him ....... Brady threw willy nilly @ our Defense , meaning he thought his recievers were better then our CB's ........ Pats got to caught up in their own Press 10-0 talk ..........

halfcreek
01-14-2006, 09:16 PM
Samuel did cut in front of the receiver and assumed inside position. From then on the contact was caused by Lelie from behind on Samuel. Lelie should have been called for offensive PI.
The call was not on the contact, it was Samuel pulling on Lelie's arm. It was a good call.

davdog
01-14-2006, 09:18 PM
sure I can . stop the Run make plummer beat you ... Plummer played lights out , he underestamated Plummer simple , BB wasnt the only one underestamating Jake everyone did ,but us Bronco fans we knew , we understood .........

I disagree, 197 yds, 1 td and 1 int. Add that to 96 yds on the ground and BB came up with a decent game plan. BUT the bottom line is he lost.

Hulamau
01-14-2006, 09:19 PM
Dude, you av is highly disturbing. lol


No Kidding I hope that isnt his bicep! Looks like an Alien is getting ready to break out of that thing

errand
01-14-2006, 09:19 PM
Got jobbed? The defensive back maintained contact nearly all the way down the field. He tried to go through Lelie to the ball. If he doesnt hit Lelie, that's a standup TD. If they dont call that, they really let things get way out of control.

Exactly...

If I'm not mistaken, the ruling is that the DB may not impede or hinder the WR's progress in his route (after 5 yards) or towards the ball....it's not always about whose hands were on whom....you can get in the Wr's way with your body and never touch him and still be flagged for PI.

enjolras
01-14-2006, 09:19 PM
Plenty of contact on the play... but good teams overcome bad calls.

Patriots didn't.

40yrpatsfan
01-14-2006, 09:22 PM
The call was not on the contact, it was Samuel pulling on Lelie's arm. It was a good call.

I also saw an angle at halftime where I could see Samuel's left arm go out, but he didn't grab Lelie's arm. I think you're right that the call was about that arm motion. But Lelie was all over Samuel at that point, and Samuel was reacting to all the contact. If the players were reversed, Samuel would have been called for PI for going over the receiver's back and initiating contact.

The refs should have had a meeting on that call. The guy right beside the play let all the contact go, and then a ref from across the field who couldn't see Lelie's contact makes that call. Not a fair result given the whole play.

Spider
01-14-2006, 09:23 PM
I disagree, 197 yds, 1 td and 1 int. Add that to 96 yds on the ground and BB came up with a decent game plan. BUT the bottom line is he lost.
not when you concider we had a short field most of the game ,50-60 yard range .......

40yrpatsfan
01-14-2006, 09:25 PM
Exactly...

If I'm not mistaken, the ruling is that the DB may not impede or hinder the WR's progress in his route (after 5 yards) or towards the ball....it's not always about whose hands were on whom....you can get in the Wr's way with your body and never touch him and still be flagged for PI.

Samuel took over Lelie's route. Once he got inside position without PI being called, he's got position, not Lelie. Lelie should have been called, not Samuel.

Finger Roll
01-14-2006, 09:25 PM
Denver still was in great position to score on the drive with the bad pass interference call. What makes people think they wound't have gotten at least a field goal?

halfcreek
01-14-2006, 09:26 PM
I also saw an angle at halftime where I could see Samuel's left arm go out, but he didn't grab Lelie's arm. I think you're right that the call was about that arm motion. But Lelie was all over Samuel at that point, and Samuel was reacting to all the contact. If the players were reversed, Samuel would have been called for PI for going over the receiver's back and initiating contact.

The refs should have had a meeting on that call. The guy right beside the play let all the contact go, and then a ref from across the field who couldn't see Lelie's contact makes that call. Not a fair result given the whole play.
I have looked at the play a number of times and you can actually see Lelie's arm get pulled back. That is what the ref on the other side saw. Absent that tug of the arm, it would not be PI.

Gcver2ver3
01-14-2006, 09:27 PM
I also saw an angle at halftime where I could see Samuel's left arm go out, but he didn't grab Lelie's arm. I think you're right that the call was about that arm motion. But Lelie was all over Samuel at that point, and Samuel was reacting to all the contact. If the players were reversed, Samuel would have been called for PI for going over the receiver's back and initiating contact.

The refs should have had a meeting on that call. The guy right beside the play let all the contact go, and then a ref from across the field who couldn't see Lelie's contact makes that call. Not a fair result given the whole play.


I am usually good at being nonbiased on calls like that....

this will be no exception....that was indeed a weak PI call...it shouldn't have been a penalty...

according to the rules....the refs can argue that they were right...but it was a bad call..i admit that...

but so what....get over it...you have to...

i can't count on my hands how many times i've seen my broncos on the other side of bad calls...finally we get one to go our way....bout time..

that call doesn't excuse the 5 turnovers...

5 turnovers in a playoff game?....not that is BS :~ohyah!:

broncohaven
01-14-2006, 09:29 PM
Lelie was running past him when Samuel made contact. Yes Samuel turned to look at the ball, but he was clearly holding Lelie back with his body.

snowspot66
01-14-2006, 09:30 PM
suppose the broncos get nothing out of that drive, still a 20-13 game

halfcreek
01-14-2006, 09:32 PM
I am usually good at being nonbiased on calls like that....

this will be no exception....that was indeed a weak PI call...it shouldn't have been a penalty...

according to the rules....the refs can argue that they were right...but it was a bad call..i admit that...

but so what....get over it...you have to...

i can't count on my hands how many times i've seen my broncos on the other side of bad calls...finally we get one to go our way....bout time..

that call doesn't excuse the 5 turnovers...

5 turnovers in a playoff game?....not that is BS :~ohyah!:
Tape the highlights and you will see Samuel grabbing his arm.

40yrpatsfan
01-14-2006, 09:33 PM
I am usually good at being nonbiased on calls like that....

this will be no exception....that was indeed a weak PI call...it shouldn't have been a penalty...

according to the rules....the refs can argue that they were right...but it was a bad call..i admit that...

but so what....get over it...you have to...

i can't count on my hands how many times i've seen my broncos on the other side of bad calls...finally we get one to go our way....bout time..

that call doesn't excuse the 5 turnovers...

5 turnovers in a playoff game?....not that is BS :~ohyah!:

Fair and accurate post. The Pats had a number of chances to come back from that, and kept friggin up.

40yrpatsfan
01-14-2006, 09:35 PM
Tape the highlights and you will see Samuel grabbing his arm.

I'll say again that he was reacting to the contact from Lelie when his arm went up. The ref on top of the play let it all go.

Cito Pelon
01-14-2006, 09:36 PM
Changing the subject a bit, since this is worn out - I've noticed how exhausted HC's look after their team plays the Broncs. Three-phase beatings tend to do that, I guess.

Finger Roll
01-14-2006, 09:38 PM
I think the broncos would of gotten atleat a field goal on that drive maybe a td. Doesn't matter they lost by 14 not 7.

davdog
01-14-2006, 09:38 PM
Changing the subject a bit, since this is worn out - I've noticed how exhausted HC's look after their team plays the Broncs. Three-phase beatings tend to do that, I guess.


Hey lets be real here, revel in your win all you want as you should but I'm sure BB was exhausted because he had to watch his team give the ball away 5 times.

Jason in LA
01-14-2006, 09:38 PM
You guys still arguing over that PI call? There are so many other plays that did you guys in. You guys simply got out played. Who cares about the stats? The Pats have won three out of four Super Bowls on the field without great stats. They turned the ball over too much. That's why they lost, not because of that one PI call.

halfcreek
01-14-2006, 09:43 PM
I'll say again that he was reacting to the contact from Lelie when his arm went up. The ref on top of the play let it all go.

The ref on top of the play had Lelie's body between him and Samuel's tug. The ref on the other side had an unimpeded view. The tug was right in between their bodies. Hard to see, but obvious once you see it.

40yrpatsfan
01-14-2006, 09:46 PM
Changing the subject a bit, since this is worn out - I've noticed how exhausted HC's look after their team plays the Broncs. Three-phase beatings tend to do that, I guess.

What game were you watching? The one where the Patriots beat the snot out of your OL and DL, but giftwrapped 5 fumbles? Or your own private game?

halfcreek
01-14-2006, 09:50 PM
What game were you watching? The one where the Patriots beat the snot out of your OL and DL, but giftwrapped 5 fumbles? Or your own private game?

If that was the case, one would assume that the Pats got more than 70 yards on the ground, 18 of which was on one Dillon run. Why was Brady getting hit hard on a number of plays? How many sacks did the Pats have. Hardly a snot producing production. No need to get snotty about the defeat.

40yrpatsfan
01-14-2006, 09:54 PM
If that was the case, one would assume that the Pats got more than 70 yards on the ground, 18 of which was on one Dillon run. Why was Brady getting hit hard on a number of plays? How many sacks did the Pats have. Hardly a snot producing production. No need to get snotty about the defeat.

I was just reacting to the "3-phase-beating" comment. You're right, we didn't dominate your DL, but we did move the ball pretty much at will, and did stop the Broncos running attack.

Blueflame
01-14-2006, 09:55 PM
Any team that turns the ball over five times is likely to lose...

TomServo
01-14-2006, 09:55 PM
how about this game where the magnificent brady threw 2 pics and misfired on how many more because of the denver pressure?

Broncoman13
01-14-2006, 09:55 PM
What game were you watching? The one where the Patriots beat the snot out of your OL and DL, but giftwrapped 5 fumbles? Or your own private game?


Tom Brady said after the first Broncos game that it was the sorest he had ever been... tonight he got hit harder and more often!!! If you call that beating up on our DL then you've got problems!

Jake Plummer was able to stand in the pocket almost all night long. There wasn't a team that we played this year that gave him a pocket. Saying that your DL manhandled our OL is simply not true!

You think Champs switch with DWill to mask the coverage was a giftwrap? Your own QB said it was a great play and that the switch caught him off guard... btw, he didn't get to see the INT b/c he was LAYING On his back after getting hit.... yes, yet again!

NYBronc
01-14-2006, 09:55 PM
What game were you watching? The one where the Patriots beat the snot out of your OL and DL, but giftwrapped 5 fumbles? Or your own private game?

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Spider
01-14-2006, 09:56 PM
I was just reacting to the "3-phase-beating" comment. You're right, we didn't dominate your DL, but we did move the ball pretty much at will, and did stop the Broncos running attack.
96 yards........debatable ..........

Moon§hiner
01-14-2006, 09:57 PM
What game were you watching? The one where the Patriots beat the snot out of your OL and DL, but giftwrapped 5 fumbles? Or your own private game?
How do you gift wrap a fumble unless your team is a bunch of fools....I don't think that is their objective....face it...they got outplayed, out hit, out hustled and you still find a way to make yourself feel better...don't worry the sun will come up tomorrow...been there done that...btw good game patswin

Victor
01-14-2006, 09:57 PM
What game were you watching? The one where the Patriots beat the snot out of your OL and DL, but giftwrapped 5 fumbles? Or your own private game?

27-13, you assclown.

Connecticut Bronco Fan
01-14-2006, 09:58 PM
What game were you watching? The one where the Patriots beat the snot out of your OL and DL, but giftwrapped 5 fumbles? Or your own private game?

http://img380.imageshack.us/img380/3822/broncospatsplayoffs6sp.png (http://imageshack.us)

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Spider
01-14-2006, 10:01 PM
Point is Pats couldnt take the Hits .... we hit , they fumble ....... they just couldnt hang in a real football game .......

Cito Pelon
01-14-2006, 10:35 PM
What game were you watching? The one where the Patriots beat the snot out of your OL and DL, but giftwrapped 5 fumbles? Or your own private game?

It's a three-phase game, the NFL is. It wasn't my own private game. Your team had a three phase game last year, they didn't have it this year. Your teams game was good enough to get to Denver, it wasn't good enough to get out of Denver. I didn't see you post on Jason's "Man up" thread.

How do you "giftwrap" four fumbles? You get the ball or you don't, nobody presents it to you. Since Brady had class enough to shake hands and tell every Bronco he shook hands with "good luck", I'll say the same to you, best of luck to you.

SoCalBronco
01-14-2006, 10:38 PM
Stop ****ing whining. You guys have been spoiled beyong belief and you cant just accept one loss. You were beaten. End of story. You guys are so ****ing spoiled its unbelievable.

It makes me really, really appreciate PatsWin even more, because he stands out in a crowd of these "fans". Stop biatching. You lost. We forced you into mistakes. Shut up already.

Kaylore
01-14-2006, 10:40 PM
Losers!!!!!!

NYBronc
01-14-2006, 10:42 PM
lmao

Clockwork Orange
01-14-2006, 10:42 PM
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Sassy
01-14-2006, 10:43 PM
Where is Patswin?

wabbit
01-14-2006, 10:48 PM
A still photo that ran on Channel 4 (KCNC) here in Denver tonight shows Samuels' hands on Lelie with his eyes facing forward...not back to the ball.

There might be some question whether or not both players engaged in contact as they entered the EZ, the simple fact is; DBs are NOT allowed to interfere with the receiver while the ball is in the air unless the defensive back is making a play for the ball.

The DB was facing forward when the offending contact took place.

End of discussion

TomServo
01-14-2006, 10:50 PM
No One outside broncoland cried any tears when Elway retired and Terell Davis went down.

nothing last forever. ask the steelers or cowboys or even us broncos.

freak6
01-14-2006, 10:56 PM
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE go to this link, and read this guys thread...

IT IS EPIC!!!!!!!

http://www.patsfans.com/new-england-patriots/messageboard/showthread.php?t=29573

TheManeMan
01-14-2006, 10:57 PM
This is for the GAYtriot fans in this thread...

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Jetmeck
01-14-2006, 11:23 PM
I disagree. He looked away from the ball before the ball got there, while he was still out in front of Lelie. He looked away for a good two strides.


Looked away, unless he had eyes in the back of his head he never seen the ball until halfway through the contact, then he looked for the ball.
YOU CAN NOT IMPEDE THE RECEIVER TO THE BALL.

Jetmeck
01-14-2006, 11:25 PM
A still photo that ran on Channel 4 (KCNC) here in Denver tonight shows Samuels' hands on Lelie with his eyes facing forward...not back to the ball.

There might be some question whether or not both players engaged in contact as they entered the EZ, the simple fact is; DBs are NOT allowed to interfere with the receiver while the ball is in the air unless the defensive back is making a play for the ball.

The DB was facing forward when the offending contact took place.

End of discussion


As usual you are on top of things. DB didn't look for the ball until halfway through the contact with LELIE.
You cannot impede the receiver to the ball.

Gcver2ver3
01-14-2006, 11:27 PM
Kudos to Broncos Freak...he had me rolling rofl