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PatsWin2002
01-12-2006, 10:44 AM
From Tom Casale, Patriots Football Weekly:
http://www.patriots.com/news/index.cfm?ac=latestnewsdetail&pid=15072&pcid=41
Patriots keys to victory against the Broncos
It's time to separate the men from the boys as the Patriots and Broncos square off on Saturday night with a berth in the AFC Championship Game at stake. Here are some of the things the Patriots need to do in order to continue their march towards history.
1. Beat the blitz
The Broncos blitz as much as any team in the NFL and Bill Belichick confirmed that earlier this week at one of his press conferences. They blitz even more when they don’t respect their opponents running game. Check out the Eagles game and the first meeting with the Patriots. Tom Brady didn’t get sacked the first time they played but he got hit hard on virtually every pass attempt in the first half. He really took a lot of punishment in that game. Well, here we are three months later and the Patriots ground game is still struggling, so expect to see the Broncos stack the line of scrimmage and send pressure early and often. Denver faces two problems playing this way. One is they appear to tire out in the fourth quarter. Denver blitzes so much sometimes their pass rushers get tired late in games and they aren’t as effective. This happened in the first meeting when Brady almost led the Patriots back. Look for New England to run a lot of crossing routes with their receivers and hit Kevin Faulk underneath to try and wear down the Broncos defense. The other negative with the Broncos blitzing is Brady is the smartest quarterback in the NFL. It’s difficult to beat him using the same scheme twice in a row because he’s so good at making adjustments. If the Broncos blitz a lot early like they’re accustomed to doing, don’t be surprised if the Patriots hit some big plays on them. Also, look for mismatches with Ben Watson on safety John Lynch. Lynch has been a great player over the years but he can be a liability in coverage if he’s singled up against Watson, the only thing Lynch will see is the back of No. 84’s jersey as he’s streaking towards the end zone.
2. Stop the Broncos running game
It just doesn’t get any simpler than this. Everything the Broncos do on offense is predicated off their running game. Teams that shut down the run against Denver – and that hasn’t been very often – have beaten them. The Broncos ran for almost 200 yards in the first meeting but let’s be honest, that game doesn’t even count. The Patriots were playing without Richard Seymour, Tedy Bruschi and Ellis Hobbs had yet to enter the starting lineup. The Patriots gave up their only long run of the season in that game – a 68-yarder to Tatum Bell just before the half - that led to a touchdown and broke the contest wide open. This isn’t the same New England defense. Bell and Mike Anderson both had great seasons on the ground but this is going to be their toughest test of the year. What we have here is one of the NFL’s top rushing offenses against one of the top rush defenses. Whichever team wins this battle will most likely win the game. Jake Plummer is having his best season but if he can’t rely on the running game and has to put it all on his shoulders, the Patriots will win. It’s that simple.
3. Try and slow down Rod Smith
It’s really amazing. Belichick’s defense can stop virtually every player in the NFL not named Ricky Proehl or Rod Smith. In a press conference before the first game, Belichick joked Smith will probably thank him when he gets inducted into the Hall of Fame. Smith then showed Belichick knows what he’s talking about by going out and catching six balls for 123 yards and a touchdown. In his last four games versus the Patriots, the 11-year veteran has 30 receptions for 573 yards and a score. There’s good news and bad news for New England. The good news is Duane Starks won’t be covering Smith this time. The bad news is Starks wasn’t covering him the three games before that when he burnt the Pats. If the Patriots shut down the Broncos running game, Smith becomes the key. Ashley Lelie and Jeb Putzier are decent options in the passing game but neither of those guys is going to be the deciding factor in the game. The Patriots won’t completely stop Smith but as long as they can control him and make Plummer look elsewhere, they should be in good shape.
4. More Kevin Faulk
It’s now been 17 games and whether it’s because of injury or other factors, Corey Dillon just isn’t getting the job done at running back. We all see it and we all saw what Faulk did when he was given a chance to run the football last week. The most impressive part of Faulk’s performance is most of his 51 yards came right up the middle. Coming into the game that was supposed to be the Jaguars strength on defense but Faulk gashed them with quick hitters. Faulk isn’t the kind of back who can carry the ball 20-25 times over a 16-game season but that’s not what he needs to do. Actually, being injured gives Faulk an advantage. He’s fresh and hasn’t taken many hits this season. The Patriots have proven in the past they don’t need much of a running game to win in the postseason but they have to run the ball a little bit to keep defenses honest. I don’t think Dillon can do that right now. To be honest, I think opposing defenses want to see him in the game because they know he can’t hurt them like he has in the past. The most disheartening thing about the Jacksonville game was even late in the fourth quarter when the Jaguars had mailed it in, Dillon still couldn’t do anything on the ground. If Faulk can break some of those quick hitters again this week, it will make the Broncos think twice about blitzing so much and help keep the Patriots offense balanced. If New England can’t run the ball at all and Brady has to throw it 40 times, he’s going to get killed. It’s time to give the keys to the running game to Faulk. At least make a copy of the key and give him the replica. Whether Dillon has been injured or he’s just slowing down, we’ll know the answer to that question next season. The Patriots offense is at its best right now when they spread defenses out and use Faulk in the backfield. I would expect to see more of that on Saturday night.
5. Let’s get physical
If you like physical football, this is your kind of game. This is going to be one hard-hitting, physical football game not for the faint of heart. Both of these teams will be hurting come Sunday morning. That plays right into the Patriots hands because they love those kinds of games. Early in the year it was shocking to watch teams push the Patriots around but Belichick and his great coaching staff fixed whatever problems they were having and now this team is as tough as any in the league. New England took a physical Jacksonville team and all but made them give up. If that game were a boxing match it would have been an eighth round TKO. Bruschi is going to play and they really need him in this contest. Monty Beisel performed well last week but the Broncos running game is a different animal and Bruschi has to be on the field. Seymour gets all the accolades – and deservingly so - but over the past month of the season, Vince Wilfork has been an absolute beast. If you are talking about the last six games alone, it can be argued Wilfork has been the Patriots MVP. The guy is living in the opponent’s backfield. Whatever Belichick did to light a fire under Wilfork worked because he’s been nothing short of dominating. This game is going to come down to the trenches. If the Patriots are the more physical team Saturday night against a very tough Broncos squad, they’ll be heading to their third straight AFC Championship Game. Then the fun really begins.
Notes
In a conference call with the Boston media on Tuesday, Broncos quarterback Jake Plummer said he expects to see a motivated Patriots team this Saturday night. “They are playing very well against the run and getting a couple of guys back healthy,” Plummer said. “They were pretty injured when we played them, so we know that their confidence coming in here is high when it comes to stopping the run. We had a couple of big plays against them but those happen in some games and don't in some other games. So we know they’re going to come in with very high confidence level and they’re playing really well. They’re probably playing just as good as any other team in the league and with their drive and desire to do something in history that has never been done, we know it’s going to be a tough one.”…The Patriots have scored a touchdown 100 percent of the time this season when they’ve had a first-and-goal from the five-yard line or closer…The Patriots had 62 pass plays in 2005 that netted 20 yards or more. That ranked second in the NFL to the Arizona Cardinals who ended up with 63.
Spider
01-12-2006, 10:45 AM
i didnt see anything in there about spiking the Broncos gatorade ......
PatsWin2002
01-12-2006, 10:46 AM
i didnt see anything in there about spiking the Broncos gatorade ......
You're so old hat. The plan is to sabotage the Motorola headsets like we did to Jacksonville. :~ohyah!:
Spider
01-12-2006, 10:51 AM
You're so old hat. The plan is to sabotage the Motorola headsets like we did to Jacksonville. :~ohyah!:
diabolical fiend ..........:~ohyah!:
Rohirrim
01-12-2006, 11:15 AM
Sure are a lot of big "ifs" in that one.
Bronx33
01-12-2006, 11:16 AM
Looks like a full plate to me...
PatsWin2002
01-12-2006, 11:18 AM
Looks like a full plate to me...
Right. That's the right answer.
Anyone would bank on a Pats victory if all those things happen, but making them happen is the hard part. :)
Rock Chalk
01-12-2006, 11:20 AM
Right. That's the right answer.
Anyone would bank on a Pats victory if all those things happen, but making them happen is the hard part. :)
Better go dig up Christopher Reeve because Superman is the only thing gonna save the Patties.
shaftedelic
01-12-2006, 11:20 AM
Right. That's the right answer.
Anyone would bank on a Pats victory if all those things happen, but making them happen is the hard part. :)
But that's what the Patriots have prove they can do over and over again.
Mile High Shack
01-12-2006, 11:21 AM
But that's what the Patriots have prove they can do over and over again.
they have gone on the road against Denver a lot in the playoffs huh?
Bronx33
01-12-2006, 11:22 AM
Right. That's the right answer.
Anyone would bank on a Pats victory if all those things happen, but making them happen is the hard part. :)
If you ask me the pats have alot more to come together to be successful only thing that could make a big difference and break a game wide open is turnovers so mistakes are going to be magnified x10.
shaftedelic
01-12-2006, 11:22 AM
Better go dig up Christopher Reeve because Superman is the only thing gonna save the Patties.
Another fine example of intelligent posting from the mighty Bronco's fan base.
Rock Chalk
01-12-2006, 11:23 AM
Another fine example of intelligent posting from the mighty Bronco's fan base.
Yeah? Where the **** you gonna be when your team gets steamrolled?
Eating clam chowder and drowning your woes in some Samuel Adams no doubt but I can gaurantee you wont be here.
Bronx33
01-12-2006, 11:24 AM
Another fine example of intelligent posting from the mighty Bronco's fan base.
You haven't been so great either (pot meet kettle)
shaftedelic
01-12-2006, 11:24 AM
they have gone on the road against Denver a lot in the playoffs huh?
They would have, but the Bronco's couldn't win enough games in the regular season and make it past the first round of the play offs. You can't blame the Patriots for the faults of the Broncos.
orinjkrush
01-12-2006, 11:24 AM
i think that was a pretty good analysis.
i don't think there will be many surprises in this one. whoever wants it more.
Bronx33
01-12-2006, 11:25 AM
They would have, but the Bronco's couldn't win enough games in the regular season and make it past the first round of the play offs. You can't blame the Patriots for the faults of the Broncos.
Well this year we get our wish the past means squat.
Bronx33
01-12-2006, 11:26 AM
i think that was a pretty good analysis.
i don't think there will be many surprises in this one. whoever wants it more.
X factor will be the fans...book it!
shaftedelic
01-12-2006, 11:27 AM
Yeah? Where the **** you gonna be when your team gets steamrolled?
Eating clam chowder and drowning your woes in some Samuel Adams no doubt but I can gaurantee you wont be here.
That's all you got? some played out clam chawda line??
ludo21
01-12-2006, 11:27 AM
Better go dig up Christopher Reeve because Superman is the only thing gonna save the Patties.
They have Tedy Bruschi, he is superman :strong: ;D
Good find Patswin. Pats will try to throw the screen a lot on us to slow us down, it will be our corners and DL job to recognize it and slow it down. And they have done a GREAT job all season at doing that. i am getting really pumped for the playoffs to start sat!!!:thumbs:
Bronx33
01-12-2006, 11:28 AM
They have Tedy Bruschi, he is superman :strong: ;D
Good find Patswin. Pats will try to throw the screen a lot on us to slow us down, it will be our corners and DL job to recognize it and slow it down. And they have done a GREAT job all season at doing that. i am getting really pumped for the playoffs to start sat!!!:thumbs:
I expect them to try to throw alot they are not going to be able to run on us but they will have to try to keep us honest on D.
shaftedelic
01-12-2006, 11:28 AM
Well this year we get our wish the past means squat.
And I think that is great!! As I said before, I feel this is probably going to be the best game of this post season.
shaftedelic
01-12-2006, 11:29 AM
You haven't been so great either (pot meet kettle)
Come on.. You didn't like that?
ludo21
01-12-2006, 11:31 AM
I expect them to try to throw alot they are not going to be able to run on us but they will have to try to keep us honest on D.
They will do the usual quick outs and slants. Get the RB to backfield, the usual. Brady likes to dink and dunk, then go deep. WE just have to make sure tackles and force Brady to take a couple extra seconds.
Bronx33
01-12-2006, 11:33 AM
They will do the usual quick outs and slants. Get the RB to backfield, the usual. Brady likes to dink and dunk, then go deep. WE just have to make sure tackles and force Brady to take a couple extra seconds.
Man i hope champ takes advantage of that s***! if he gets a pick hes going all the way because nobody will be there to stop him.Trevor needs to step it too!!!
ludo21
01-12-2006, 11:36 AM
Man i hope champ takes advantage of that s***! if he gets a pick hes going all the way because nobody will be there to stop him.Trevor needs to step it too!!!
Yeah the whole DL needs a big game. If we can get to Brady w/out blitzing too much, he will be in for a rough D. Our secondary is killer enough, but dropping 2 more fast LB's back there will make it even tougher on him,
sonsofkraftybob
01-12-2006, 11:57 AM
From Tom Casale, Patriots Football Weekly:
http://www.patriots.com/news/index.cfm?ac=latestnewsdetail&pid=15072&pcid=41
Patriots keys to victory against the Broncos
It's time to separate the men from the boys as the Patriots and Broncos square off on Saturday night with a berth in the AFC Championship Game at stake. Here are some of the things the Patriots need to do in order to continue their march towards history.
1. Beat the blitz
The Broncos blitz as much as any team in the NFL and Bill Belichick confirmed that earlier this week at one of his press conferences. They blitz even more when they don’t respect their opponents running game. Check out the Eagles game and the first meeting with the Patriots. Tom Brady didn’t get sacked the first time they played but he got hit hard on virtually every pass attempt in the first half. He really took a lot of punishment in that game. Well, here we are three months later and the Patriots ground game is still struggling, so expect to see the Broncos stack the line of scrimmage and send pressure early and often. Denver faces two problems playing this way. One is they appear to tire out in the fourth quarter. Denver blitzes so much sometimes their pass rushers get tired late in games and they aren’t as effective. This happened in the first meeting when Brady almost led the Patriots back. Look for New England to run a lot of crossing routes with their receivers and hit Kevin Faulk underneath to try and wear down the Broncos defense. The other negative with the Broncos blitzing is Brady is the smartest quarterback in the NFL. It’s difficult to beat him using the same scheme twice in a row because he’s so good at making adjustments. If the Broncos blitz a lot early like they’re accustomed to doing, don’t be surprised if the Patriots hit some big plays on them. Also, look for mismatches with Ben Watson on safety John Lynch. Lynch has been a great player over the years but he can be a liability in coverage if he’s singled up against Watson, the only thing Lynch will see is the back of No. 84’s jersey as he’s streaking towards the end zone.
2. Stop the Broncos running game
It just doesn’t get any simpler than this. Everything the Broncos do on offense is predicated off their running game. Teams that shut down the run against Denver – and that hasn’t been very often – have beaten them. The Broncos ran for almost 200 yards in the first meeting but let’s be honest, that game doesn’t even count. The Patriots were playing without Richard Seymour, Tedy Bruschi and Ellis Hobbs had yet to enter the starting lineup. The Patriots gave up their only long run of the season in that game – a 68-yarder to Tatum Bell just before the half - that led to a touchdown and broke the contest wide open. This isn’t the same New England defense. Bell and Mike Anderson both had great seasons on the ground but this is going to be their toughest test of the year. What we have here is one of the NFL’s top rushing offenses against one of the top rush defenses. Whichever team wins this battle will most likely win the game. Jake Plummer is having his best season but if he can’t rely on the running game and has to put it all on his shoulders, the Patriots will win. It’s that simple.
3. Try and slow down Rod Smith
It’s really amazing. Belichick’s defense can stop virtually every player in the NFL not named Ricky Proehl or Rod Smith. In a press conference before the first game, Belichick joked Smith will probably thank him when he gets inducted into the Hall of Fame. Smith then showed Belichick knows what he’s talking about by going out and catching six balls for 123 yards and a touchdown. In his last four games versus the Patriots, the 11-year veteran has 30 receptions for 573 yards and a score. There’s good news and bad news for New England. The good news is Duane Starks won’t be covering Smith this time. The bad news is Starks wasn’t covering him the three games before that when he burnt the Pats. If the Patriots shut down the Broncos running game, Smith becomes the key. Ashley Lelie and Jeb Putzier are decent options in the passing game but neither of those guys is going to be the deciding factor in the game. The Patriots won’t completely stop Smith but as long as they can control him and make Plummer look elsewhere, they should be in good shape.
4. More Kevin Faulk
It’s now been 17 games and whether it’s because of injury or other factors, Corey Dillon just isn’t getting the job done at running back. We all see it and we all saw what Faulk did when he was given a chance to run the football last week. The most impressive part of Faulk’s performance is most of his 51 yards came right up the middle. Coming into the game that was supposed to be the Jaguars strength on defense but Faulk gashed them with quick hitters. Faulk isn’t the kind of back who can carry the ball 20-25 times over a 16-game season but that’s not what he needs to do. Actually, being injured gives Faulk an advantage. He’s fresh and hasn’t taken many hits this season. The Patriots have proven in the past they don’t need much of a running game to win in the postseason but they have to run the ball a little bit to keep defenses honest. I don’t think Dillon can do that right now. To be honest, I think opposing defenses want to see him in the game because they know he can’t hurt them like he has in the past. The most disheartening thing about the Jacksonville game was even late in the fourth quarter when the Jaguars had mailed it in, Dillon still couldn’t do anything on the ground. If Faulk can break some of those quick hitters again this week, it will make the Broncos think twice about blitzing so much and help keep the Patriots offense balanced. If New England can’t run the ball at all and Brady has to throw it 40 times, he’s going to get killed. It’s time to give the keys to the running game to Faulk. At least make a copy of the key and give him the replica. Whether Dillon has been injured or he’s just slowing down, we’ll know the answer to that question next season. The Patriots offense is at its best right now when they spread defenses out and use Faulk in the backfield. I would expect to see more of that on Saturday night.
5. Let’s get physical
If you like physical football, this is your kind of game. This is going to be one hard-hitting, physical football game not for the faint of heart. Both of these teams will be hurting come Sunday morning. That plays right into the Patriots hands because they love those kinds of games. Early in the year it was shocking to watch teams push the Patriots around but Belichick and his great coaching staff fixed whatever problems they were having and now this team is as tough as any in the league. New England took a physical Jacksonville team and all but made them give up. If that game were a boxing match it would have been an eighth round TKO. Bruschi is going to play and they really need him in this contest. Monty Beisel performed well last week but the Broncos running game is a different animal and Bruschi has to be on the field. Seymour gets all the accolades – and deservingly so - but over the past month of the season, Vince Wilfork has been an absolute beast. If you are talking about the last six games alone, it can be argued Wilfork has been the Patriots MVP. The guy is living in the opponent’s backfield. Whatever Belichick did to light a fire under Wilfork worked because he’s been nothing short of dominating. This game is going to come down to the trenches. If the Patriots are the more physical team Saturday night against a very tough Broncos squad, they’ll be heading to their third straight AFC Championship Game. Then the fun really begins.
Notes
In a conference call with the Boston media on Tuesday, Broncos quarterback Jake Plummer said he expects to see a motivated Patriots team this Saturday night. “They are playing very well against the run and getting a couple of guys back healthy,” Plummer said. “They were pretty injured when we played them, so we know that their confidence coming in here is high when it comes to stopping the run. We had a couple of big plays against them but those happen in some games and don't in some other games. So we know they’re going to come in with very high confidence level and they’re playing really well. They’re probably playing just as good as any other team in the league and with their drive and desire to do something in history that has never been done, we know it’s going to be a tough one.”…The Patriots have scored a touchdown 100 percent of the time this season when they’ve had a first-and-goal from the five-yard line or closer…The Patriots had 62 pass plays in 2005 that netted 20 yards or more. That ranked second in the NFL to the Arizona Cardinals who ended up with 63.
That's it? Man you guys are in trouble if that is all we have to do to ensure victory.
Paladin
01-12-2006, 12:02 PM
Lol!!!
Rulon Velvet Jones
01-12-2006, 12:20 PM
Why would anyone fear Kevin Faulk? The dude is a lifetime backup. Run Faulk left, run Faulk right, failed pass, punt.
Victor
01-12-2006, 12:39 PM
6. If Brady fumbles, have the refs rule "arm in motion."
sonsofkraftybob
01-12-2006, 12:46 PM
Why would anyone fear Kevin Faulk? The dude is a lifetime backup. Run Faulk left, run Faulk right, failed pass, punt.
he's actually a top 3 thrid down back. Kinda like a poor amns Bryan Westbrook.
But with Dillon being a dud lately...he's come on in the rushing game.
GreatBronco16
01-12-2006, 12:49 PM
That's it? Man you guys are in trouble if that is all we have to do to ensure victory.
That's all any team has to do to beat the Broncos. And your precious Pats didn't come close to doing half of it in the first meeting.
Garcia Bronco
01-12-2006, 12:49 PM
The Pats haven't had a "runner" in years....or ever really....but they get it done....so it really doesn't matter.
ludo21
01-12-2006, 12:51 PM
he's actually a top 3 thrid down back. Kinda like a poor amns Bryan Westbrook.
But with Dillon being a dud lately...he's come on in the rushing game.
he is the guy im worried about in the backfield. Not scared, but if a RB of the Pats has a god day, it will be him on his short screens.
GreatBronco16
01-12-2006, 12:51 PM
he's actually a top 3 thrid down back. Kinda like a poor amns Bryan Westbrook.
But with Dillon being a dud lately...he's come on in the rushing game.
Ok first I would like a link to show where the RBs rank as far as third downs go, and second, you don't actually think that Faulk is going to do more than maybe 60 total yards do you?
sonsofkraftybob
01-12-2006, 12:52 PM
That's all any team has to do to beat the Broncos. And your precious Pats didn't come close to doing half of it in the first meeting.
I'm sure Bill and Nick Saban have been chewing the fat this week. If Lombardi's were given out during the season then even the Texans would have one. Ha....I lumped your team with the Texans.
sonsofkraftybob
01-12-2006, 12:54 PM
Ok first I would like a link to show where the RBs rank as far as third downs go, and second, you don't actually think that Faulk is going to do more than maybe 60 total yards do you?
can't help you with the link. Also he was hurt for while during the season....yeah, shocker I know.
But yeah, I'd say he gets about 75-125 all purpose yards.
eddie mac
01-12-2006, 12:56 PM
he's actually a top 3 thrid down back. Kinda like a poor amns Bryan Westbrook.
But with Dillon being a dud lately...he's come on in the rushing game.
He'll not get much of anything at Invesco and here's why:
NFL Season 2005
Tomlinson 52 yards at Invesco
Holmes 61 yards at Invesco
Portis 103 yards at Invesco
Pass 64 yards at Invesco
Westbrook 48 yards at Invesco
C Martin 7 yards at Invesco
C Taylor 59 yards at Invesco
Crockett 61 yards at Invesco
Apart from the Clinton blip our Run D has stuffed every running back at home this season and you reckon a pansy 3rd down back is gonna even get by Warren or Wilson, dream on you Krafty Bud!!
bendog
01-12-2006, 01:02 PM
Denver blitzes so much sometimes their pass rushers get tired late in games and they aren’t as effective. This happened in the first meeting when Brady almost led the Patriots back.
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umm, no. Den stopped blitzing when champ went out and Den had the big lead.
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stop the run
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no answers beside tedy and richard are back. they still haven't stopped a top run team, and den in the past has run on them with seymour.
I stopped reading after that. lol
sonsofkraftybob
01-12-2006, 01:02 PM
He'll not get much of anything at Invesco and here's why:
NFL Season 2005
Tomlinson 52 yards at Invesco
Holmes 61 yards at Invesco
Portis 103 yards at Invesco
Pass 64 yards at Invesco
Westbrook 48 yards at Invesco
C Martin 7 yards at Invesco
C Taylor 59 yards at Invesco
Crockett 61 yards at Invesco
Apart from the Clinton blip our Run D has stuffed every running back at home this season and you reckon a pansy 3rd down back is gonna even get by Warren or Wilson, dream on you Krafty Bud!!
But the difference is that you WON those games....
sonsofkraftybob
01-12-2006, 01:04 PM
Denver blitzes so much sometimes their pass rushers get tired late in games and they aren’t as effective. This happened in the first meeting when Brady almost led the Patriots back.
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umm, no. Den stopped blitzing when champ went out and Den had the big lead.
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stop the run
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no answers beside tedy and richard are back. they still haven't stopped a top run team, and den in the past has run on them with seymour.
I stopped reading after that. lol
Seymour has never played in Denver before. You guys are fortuinate to get to see him in person!!!
Jax and Tampa were both rushing teams.
Merlin
01-12-2006, 06:41 PM
Seymour has never played in Denver before. You guys are fortuinate to get to see him in person!!!
Jax and Tampa were both rushing teams.
You didn't just compare Jax and Tampa's running game to Denver's? To be honest, that has got to be the most ignorant statement yet (no offense). Totally different running games, and far inferior by comparison. Moreover, they guy's stats were totally off. The only team to hold Denver's running game down was Miami, and yes they won; however, Denver lost 2 other games and they ran for over 130 and 190 yds in each of those games. Other than Miami, their to lowest games were against the Ravens and SD, both of which Denver won.
Merlin
01-12-2006, 06:57 PM
BTW, regarding stopping the running game of Denver. NEders may not remember, but that was obviously BB's strategy in the first game. Here is a quick breakdown.
1st Drive: Denver -1 yd rushing- punt
2nd Drive: Denver 8 yds rushing- punt
3rd Drive: Denver 10 yds rushing- TD
Take a guess what happened in that drive... Yes, Denver went to the passing game and RS burned you for a 72 yrd pass. Denver did not need the rushing game to burn your secondary, and last I checked your secondary still has many more questions than answers.
4th Drive: Denver 11 yds rushing- TD
Again no rushing attack, yet your secondary burned for 19 and 55 yds by Lelie.
5th Drive: Denver 2 yds rushing- punt
6th Drive: Denver 89 yds rushing- TD
So when did Denver's rushing attack take over? After your secondary was burned so bad your D had to begin to compensate...So much for simple solutions like stopping the rushing game.
BTW, as your team is better, Denver is much better now as well, both in D and O.
Care to have another try?
Edit: Post #666, that is nice omen for the pats.
The only keys the Patriots will need will be the ones to the bus that'll take them back to their hotel to wallow in misery.
elsid13
01-12-2006, 07:13 PM
I don't understand where the DL gets tired come from. Wish the guys would actual do some study before they write something. The only game that happened was in hot humid Miami when the O was useless.
footstepsfrom#27
01-12-2006, 07:23 PM
BTW, regarding stopping the running game of Denver. NEders may not remember, but that was obviously BB's strategy in the first game. Here is a quick breakdown.
1st Drive: Denver -1 yd rushing- punt
2nd Drive: Denver 8 yds rushing- punt
3rd Drive: Denver 10 yds rushing- TD
Take a guess what happened in that drive... Yes, Denver went to the passing game and RS burned you for a 72 yrd pass. Denver did not need the rushing game to burn your secondary, and last I checked your secondary still has many more questions than answers.
4th Drive: Denver 11 yds rushing- TD
Again no rushing attack, yet your secondary burned for 19 and 55 yds by Lelie.
5th Drive: Denver 2 yds rushing- punt
6th Drive: Denver 89 yds rushing- TD
So when did Denver's rushing attack take over? After your secondary was burned so bad your D had to begin to compensate...So much for simple solutions like stopping the rushing game.
BTW, as your team is better, Denver is much better now as well, both in D and O.
Care to have another try?
You're wasting your time...I've already made this point with him several times...but he doesn't get it.
He will on Saturday.
24champ
01-12-2006, 07:41 PM
Denver blitzes so much sometimes their pass rushers get tired late in games and they aren’t as effective. This happened in the first meeting when Brady almost led the Patriots back.
Champ and Darrent were not in the game the second half no?
. Stop the Broncos running game
It just doesn’t get any simpler than this. Everything the Broncos do on offense is predicated off their running game. Teams that shut down the run against Denver – and that hasn’t been very often – have beaten them. The Broncos ran for almost 200 yards in the first meeting but let’s be honest, that game doesn’t even count. The Patriots were playing without Richard Seymour, Tedy Bruschi and Ellis Hobbs had yet to enter the starting lineup. The Patriots gave up their only long run of the season in that game – a 68-yarder to Tatum Bell just before the half - that led to a touchdown and broke the contest wide open. This isn’t the same New England defense. Bell and Mike Anderson both had great seasons on the ground but this is going to be their toughest test of the year. What we have here is one of the NFL’s top rushing offenses against one of the top rush defenses. Whichever team wins this battle will most likely win the game. Jake Plummer is having his best season but if he can’t rely on the running game and has to put it all on his shoulders, the Patriots will win. It’s that simplez
:loopy:Ive heard this before, only one team stopped the run, Baltimore in what was probably our second worst performance of the year.
loborugger
01-12-2006, 08:55 PM
2. Stop the Broncos running game
Bell and Mike Anderson both had great seasons on the ground but this is going to be their toughest test of the year.
Just caught this quote. How freakin egotistical.
We played SD twice, Jax, Miami, Baltimore, but oh, no, the resurrected Pats run 'D' is going to be our biggest hurdle to date?
That is as Homerish as me saying "Geez, Plummer, how many TDs will Plummer throw? 5 or 6? I just don't see less than that."
Getta outta here til you have some real analysis.
Sgt Sauce
01-12-2006, 09:03 PM
someone check Brusci's piss
fontaine
01-13-2006, 03:33 AM
From Tom Casale, Patriots Football Weekly:
http://www.patriots.com/news/index.cfm?ac=latestnewsdetail&pid=15072&pcid=41
Patriots keys to victory against the Broncos
1. Beat the blitz
Also, look for mismatches with Ben Watson on safety John Lynch. Lynch has been a great player over the years but he can be a liability in coverage if he’s singled up against Watson, the only thing Lynch will see is the back of No. 84’s jersey as he’s streaking towards the end zone.
2. Stop the Broncos running game
The Broncos ran for almost 200 yards in the first meeting but let’s be honest, that game doesn’t even count.
What we have here is one of the NFL’s top rushing offenses against one of the top rush defenses.
4. More Kevin Faulk
Actually, being injured gives Faulk an advantage. He’s fresh and hasn’t taken many hits this season.
5. Let’s get physical
If you like physical football, this is your kind of game. This is going to be one hard-hitting, physical football game not for the faint of heart. Both of these teams will be hurting come Sunday morning. That plays right into the Patriots hands because they love those kinds of games. Early in the year it was shocking to watch teams push the Patriots around but Belichick and his great coaching staff fixed whatever problems they were having and now this team is as tough as any in the league. New England took a physical Jacksonville team and all but made them give up.
That must be why New England looked lost in the first half and the Jax Defense was shutting them down.
Overall, a great article. The Kool Aid stains go very well with the way it was written using Crayons.
