I hate to play devil's advocate here...

[C.J.]

...But all this whining about why the Patriots are getting more respect for only being 10-6 and the Broncos aren't getting any respect even though they're 13-3 is common sense. To get respect you have to earn respect. I can't even count how many 13-3 teams that waltzed through the regular season like worldbeaters have had their asses booted out of the playoffs over the years. Going 13-3 doesn't really merit much respect until it is validated in the playoffs. If Denver knocks off the Patriots and Colts, trust me, they'll get respect. The regular season doesn't really mean a squirt of piss until you can beat the best of the best in the tourney, and when the team you're facing has a quarterback who is 10-0 vs. the elite teams over the years, that isn't exacty piddly sh*t.

[PatsRule]

...But all this whining about why the Patriots are getting more respect for only being 10-6 and the Broncos aren't getting any respect even though they're 13-3 is common sense. To get respect you have to earn respect. I can't even count how many 13-3 teams that waltzed through the regular season like worldbeaters have had their asses booted out of the playoffs over the years. Going 13-3 doesn't really merit much respect until it is validated in the playoffs. If Denver knocks off the Patriots and Colts, trust me, they'll get respect. The regular season doesn't really mean a squirt of piss until you can beat the best of the best in the tourney, and when the team you're facing has a quarterback who is 10-0 vs. the elite teams over the years, that isn't exacty piddly sh*t.


How refreshing, someone who's brain isn't altered by the altitude and lack of oxygen..Good post

[Mile High Shack]

How refreshing, someone who's brain isn't altered by the altitude and lack of oxygen..Good post

as opposed to being altered by too much sea air and clam chowder?

[PatsRule]

as opposed to being altered by too much sea air and clam chowder?


Hey Mile High I hate Chowda and the ocean is overated...

[PatsWin2002]

as opposed to being altered by too much sea air and clam chowder?

Side question: Have you ever been here? It's such a popular misconception that we have clam chowder and baked beans everywhere. We don't.

If we did, the place would reek and we'd all have to move to Denver. :yayaya:

Oh, and nobody here says "Beantown". Ever.

This info is worth 3 credits at UMASS Boston if you ever decide to attend. !Booya!

[Mile High Shack]

Side question: Have you ever been here? It's such a popular misconception that we have clam chowder and baked beans everywhere. We don't.

If we did, the place would reek and we'd all have to move to Denver. :yayaya:

Oh, and nobody here says "Beantown". Ever.

This info is worth 3 credits at UMASS Boston if you ever decide to attend. !Booya!

nope

never have, probably never will, well can't say never, but one thing I do know.....I might visit the east coast in my lifetime

But I'd never live there

[Rock Chalk]

How refreshing, someone who's brain isn't altered by the altitude and lack of oxygen..Good post
What exactly have the Patriots done THIS year to earn respect?

Beating up on a poor Jax and Tampa team who, btw, both went one and done in the playoffs?

Hell, Denver kicked Jax's ass with a Healthy leftwhich in their own house. Looked more impressive doing it than the Pats did with a gimpy leftwhich in Foxborogh.

So, the Patriots won 5 of their last 6 and only one of those against a winning team.

Denver won 9 of its last 10, and the loss was a close one against a team that had just destroyed New England.

Denver has done enough to earn the respect that the Patriots are getting right now, this year, but they havent got it. Meanwhile, pussy Tom is crying about lack of respect when his team wouldnt have finished ahead of SD or KC in our division playing our schedule.

7-3 against teams with Winning records compared to 4-6 THIS YEAR.

Oh, but its the air up here isn't it? ****ing stupid yankees.

[Bronco_Beerslug]

Side question: Have you ever been here? It's such a popular misconception that we have clam chowder and baked beans everywhere. We don't.

If we did, the place would reek and we'd all have to move to Denver. :yayaya:

Oh, and nobody here says "Beantown". Ever.

This info is worth 3 credits at UMASS Boston if you ever decide to attend. !Booya!

I've been Shack, don't let em fool ya, there is clam chowder oozing on the sidewalks, boston baked beans at every place in Beantown and it does smell there. :thumbsup:

[Bronx33]

How refreshing, someone who's brain isn't altered by the altitude and lack of oxygen..Good post

We are altered? thats funny!

[NaptownChief]

I can't even count how many 13-3 teams that waltzed through the regular season like worldbeaters have had their asses booted out of the playoffs over the years.


I'm just glad I don't pull for a team that has ever done that.

[davdog]

What exactly have the Patriots done THIS year to earn respect?

Beating up on a poor Jax and Tampa team who, btw, both went one and done in the playoffs?

Hell, Denver kicked Jax's ass with a Healthy leftwhich in their own house. Looked more impressive doing it than the Pats did with a gimpy leftwhich in Foxborogh.

So, the Patriots won 5 of their last 6 and only one of those against a winning team.

Denver won 9 of its last 10, and the loss was a close one against a team that had just destroyed New England.

Denver has done enough to earn the respect that the Patriots are getting right now, this year, but they havent got it. Meanwhile, p***Y Tom is crying about lack of respect when his team wouldnt have finished ahead of SD or KC in our division playing our schedule.

7-3 against teams with Winning records compared to 4-6 THIS YEAR.

Oh, but its the air up here isn't it? ****ing stupid yankees.


Hey, don't call someone from NE a yankee!!!!

[Spider]

Last time I was in Boston , I was sitting outside of the Chelsea market , waiting to unload the wagon , I saw a fight break out between some woman and some guy ... this is no joke but she kicked his áss up and down that street .. I never laughed so hard

[Spider]

Hey, don't call someone from NE a yankee!!!!
I knew People in Boston were jealous of new York and the yankees ...

[DaveTV]

What exactly have the Patriots done THIS year to earn respect?
Being the champs they had the toughest schedule in the league, with many key players and still won their division.

[Mile High Shack]

Being the champs they had the toughest schedule in the league, with many key players and still won their division.

you better check your stats again chief

finishing 1st in the AFC Least isn't tough

[defenseman]

"Unqualified" respect before the game for the patriots because of their post season record is warranted. The "real" respect is earned "after" the game is played. Trust me, it's not such a bad thing to be "overlooked" sometimes, makes that "bite in the ass" when you kick hell out of your opponent that much more fun.......broncos beat the pats, they'll still be underdogs to the colts, and I say , so what! Play the game and let the chips fall where they may....dman

[Rock Chalk]

you better check your stats again chief

finishing 1st in the AFC Least isn't tough
Facts arent a high priority in Boston.

[Bronco_Beerslug]

Being the champs they had the toughest schedule in the league, with many key players and still won their division.

Why was NEs schedule the toughest? Winning that division isn't anything to write home about.

[sonsofkraftybob]

I'll play devils advocate on the other side.

Your ground game scares the heck out of me. If we can't get off the field then brady can't get on it. The crowd noise scares me too.

We had the same problem up here since we got a new stadium. Seymour called the crowd out and they responded the last 2 games...but with open endzone and wine and cheese crowds dominating the club seats between the 40 yard lines....it certainly hasn't been like the old Foxboro.

I'm sure that after Adam Clayton-Hollands article Bronco fans have stepped up also.

[Crushaholic]

The Patriots know how to be victorious when it really counts. That is the biggest hurdle Denver has to jump. I believe we can do it, but I'm not going to discount the "playoff" factor...

[shaftedelic]

Being the champs they had the toughest schedule in the league, with many key players and still won their division.


I beleive San Diego had the toughest schedule.. We did have a tough first half and most of our injuries happening early in the year only made things more difficult.

[Rock Chalk]

I'll play devils advocate on the other side.

Your ground game scares the heck out of me. If we can't get off the field then brady can't get on it. The crowd noise scares me too.

We had the same problem up here since we got a new stadium. Seymour called the crowd out and they responded the last 2 games...but with open endzone and wine and cheese crowds dominating the club seats between the 40 yard lines....it certainly hasn't been like the old Foxboro.

I'm sure that after Adam Clayton-Hollands article Bronco fans have stepped up also.
Seems to be a common ailment for new stadiums but I think the longer the stadium is around the more comfortable the fans get.

Bowlen said its like moving to a new neighborhood and, in many respects, he is right. In old Mile High and I assume, Foxboro, fans had sat next to the same people for many years, sometimes decades. There is a very strong level of comfort in knowing the same people are going to be at every game.

When the new stadium got built, there was a lot of shuffling of seats. Our resident rocket scientist (literally, a former rocket scientist for NASA) Tom G was really irked with the new stadium seating and how he lost out and I suspect that many a fan felt the same.

It is starting to change as this is now the 5th year of the Stadium and people are growing into their new seats and vantage points.

[Crushaholic]

I'm sure that after Adam Clayton-Hollands article Bronco fans have stepped up also.

I noticed you have been hanging your hat on this idiot's opinion. He doesn't represent the vast majority of Broncos fans. He never has and he never will. Watch a Broncos home game on TV. You'll see the camera literally shaking. That's the 12th Man in action...

[PatsRule]

What exactly have the Patriots done THIS year to earn respect?

Beating up on a poor Jax and Tampa team who, btw, both went one and done in the playoffs?

Hell, Denver kicked Jax's ass with a Healthy leftwhich in their own house. Looked more impressive doing it than the Pats did with a gimpy leftwhich in Foxborogh.

So, the Patriots won 5 of their last 6 and only one of those against a winning team.

Denver won 9 of its last 10, and the loss was a close one against a team that had just destroyed New England.

Denver has done enough to earn the respect that the Patriots are getting right now, this year, but they havent got it. Meanwhile, p***Y Tom is crying about lack of respect when his team wouldnt have finished ahead of SD or KC in our division playing our schedule.

7-3 against teams with Winning records compared to 4-6 THIS YEAR.

Oh, but its the air up here isn't it? ****ing stupid yankees.

You dont get it do ya...You been spending too much tim outside tipping cows

Back to back superbowl champs 3 out of 4 almost every record as far as consecutive wins 21 in the regular season 10-0 post season best quarterback best coach.They have dominated football the last few years..You do not have to be a road scholar to figure it out.

They are the champs and until you or someone beats them they will always get the nod because they have earned it...Now that's not too dificult to understand well maybe it is..

[Rock Chalk]

You dont get it do ya...You been spending too much tim outside tipping cows

Back to back superbowl champs 3 out of 4 almost every record as far as consecutive wins 21 in the regular season 10-0 post season best quarterback best coach.They have dominated football the last few years..You do not have to be a road scholar to figure it out.

They are the champs and until you or someone beats them they will always get the nod because they have earned it...Now that's not too dificult to understand well maybe it is..
WTF does that have to do with this year? As for beating them, its been done...6 times this year.

[Mile High Shack]

WTF does that have to do with this year? As for beating them, its been done...6 times this year.

apparently Denver is suppose to roll over on it's back, do the dead ant when the Patriots step on the field b/c "we are back to back champs"

[CHEF LUIGI]

I beleive San Diego had the toughest schedule.. We did have a tough first half and most of our injuries happening early in the year only made things more difficult.
thats correct, because they had 4 games against our broncos and the cheifs!
the pats had a cupcake schedule, it may have looked alittle togher, smothered in beans and clam chowder, but the pats beat a bunch of cupcakes.
their schedule was about as tough as matt leinehrts this season at USC, school schedule, he took ballroom dancing as his only course.

[PatsRule]

WTF does that have to do with this year? As for beating them, its been done...6 times this year.


Not in the post season when it counts.

[Sprout]

Back to back superbowl champs 3 out of 4 almost every record as far as consecutive wins 21 in the regular season 10-0 post season best quarterback best coach.They have dominated football the last few years..You do not have to be a road scholar to figure it out.

Apparently not.

[Mile High Shack]

Apparently not.

LOL

good catch

apparently a road scholar does the traffic report when it snows or something?

[BroncosCanada]

Next to Oakalnd, Boston has the highest numbers of empty crack vials per sidewalk square in the continental USA.

Keep up the good work Chowds.

[Bronco_Beerslug]

Apparently not.
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[shaftedelic]

thats correct, because they had 4 games against our broncos and the cheifs!
the pats had a cupcake schedule, it may have looked alittle togher, smothered in beans and clam chowder, but the pats beat a bunch of cupcakes.
their schedule was about as tough as matt leinehrts this season at USC, school schedule, he took ballroom dancing as his only course.


There's that chowda crap again. If your going to use a line at least use it correctly.. It's is not Chowder, it's Chowda.. People in New England do no pronounce their "R"s at the end of a word, unless it ends with an a. So the lesson here.. Chowda, not Chowder.. Pizzer, not Pizza.. and Haba, not Harbor.

[DaveTV]

Next to Oakalnd, Boston has the highest numbers of empty crack vials per sidewalk square in the continental USA.
Keep up the good work Chowds.
Are you a homophobe? You certainly are already the biggest NITWIT on this forum. You're Canadian? What a surprise! LOL

[trench]

as opposed to being altered by too much sea air and clam chowder?I'll take clams over rocky mountain oysters any day...

[Odysseus]

[QUOTE=C.JIf Denver knocks off the Patriots and Colts, trust me, they'll get respect. [/QUOTE]

I agree 13-3 is nothing in the AFCW.

First and out back to back playoffs doesn't warrant respect.

The Broncos have rookie Cornerbacks going against Tom Brady a proven Superbowl QB and annual MVP candidate.

Patriots are number 1 against the run these past 8 games and were 28th at the time they played the Broncos.

NOBODY is picking the Broncos....NOBODY.

Respect is earned. I hope they don't write a single article about the Broncos until after the Superbowl.

[OrangeShadow]

ive been sick for weeks about teams using this disrespect bull****

[shaftedelic]

ive been sick for weeks about teams using this disrespect bull****


I hear that.. It pissed me off when Brady said it.. Who cares what the media thinks.. Just shut up and go out there and play the game..

[davdog]

Next to Oakalnd, Boston has the highest numbers of empty crack vials per sidewalk square in the continental USA.

Keep up the good work Chowds.


This from a child who writes the word fag across a picture under his name. You speak well for canadians.

[OrangeShadow]

Side question: Have you ever been here? It's such a popular misconception that we have clam chowder and baked beans everywhere. We don't.

If we did, the place would reek and we'd all have to move to Denver. :yayaya:

Oh, and nobody here says "Beantown". Ever.

This info is worth 3 credits at UMASS Boston if you ever decide to attend. !Booya!
i live in new england and im not a huge fan of chowda

[davdog]

i live in new england and im not a huge fan of chowda


keep talking, we're zeroing in on you now.

[bronco militia]

"I'll tell you exactly why," said CBS analyst Phil Simms, who has broadcast five regular-season and one preseason Broncos game this season.

"The Colts, they're the team," Simms said sarcastically. "Watch out for Cincinnati. Oh, my God, they can light it up. Pittsburgh, they're getting back to where they were. Oh, and New England. Man, oh, man. And the Chargers, they might be the greatest team in history not to make the playoffs - the greatest ever.

"You watch ESPN, you don't even know Denver's in the NFL anymore. I listen to a lot of stuff and I'm talking to all the people I work with about it and everyone kind of goes, 'You know what? You're right.' You never hear anything about the Broncos. Nothing

"Listen, I'm not saying there's agendas, but it's amazing how national networks focus on just a few teams, or the hot story," Simms said. "And the so- called experts - I'd like to name them, but I won't - 'Mike Shanahan is just crazy and stupid. How can you go get Cleveland's defensive line? They're terrible.' How do they look now? And, 'Jake Plummer. He's going to make the big mistakes.' That's another one I get sick of hearing. I really do."

http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/nfl/article/0,2777,DRMN_23918_4371075,00.html

[Bronx33]

Are you a homophobe? You certainly are already the biggest NITWIT on this forum. You're Canadian? What a surprise! LOL

I listened to your radio station a bit more and they beat on some old lady calling in and she was a pats fan she said the pats probably won't win so they trashed her. (nice station) to bad it su***.

[OrangeCrush2724]

Just came back from Boston yesterday. Nice city. Was in the downtown area near Chinatown. Lot of activites, cool place to hang out. But one thing I missed is all my beautiful women in Miami.

[Paladin]

Being the champs they had the toughest schedule in the league, with many key players and still won their division.


That so? Hmmmm.... I think the Broncs should just mail in the final score, and let the ALMIGHTY Beantown Beaners move on.

Yep. That would be the gentlemanly thing to do, isn't it?


Nah. I think the Broncos will play the game anyway. Nothing else to do on a Saturday in January, ya know?

[davdog]

Just came back from Boston yesterday. Nice city. Was in the downtown area near Chinatown. Lot of activites, cool place to hang out. But one thing I missed is all my beautiful women in Miami.


I'd have to agree with you concerning the women, miami has us beat hands down.

[Old Dude]

Brady is just playing the disrespect card to pump up his team. It's worked before, so why not now?

The Pats are highly respected by everyone. They've won 3 of the last 4 Lombardis and Belichick is considered a lock for the Hall of Fame.

They've played through this season after losing both starting safeties. They've got two rookies on the LOS. Dillon, their high profile RB, has been nagged by injuries all season long. They've had additional injuries up and down the roster. They started off with a murderous schedule and took some serious beatings along the way. But when it's all said and done, here they are again, in the final four.

They've been called the most dangerous #4 seed in history.

90% of the talking heads have picked them to win this game, and even those who haven't still think it's the best chance for any upset this week.

The Broncos just aren't very sexy from a media standpoint. No one considers Plummer to be a top-flight QB. Rod Smith never shows off and is almost invisible to the media. Anderson and Bell are just cogs in a system, as are the nameless offensive linemen who make it up. Al Wilson is just another MLB, few people know DJ, and Ian Gold is just a fast guy playing out of position. The only name players on the team are Champ Bailey, who gets most of the publicity when he's beaten on a play, or when he's in the general area of someone else who got beat, and Lynch, who is an old slow white dude who gets fined everytime he hits someone.

Oh yeah, and the "Browncos" who aren't quite the butress of jokes that they were a few months ago. But no one really worries about them.

Finally, Ron Dayne, who still draws lots of derision.

Plus, everyone figures Denver would be humiliated if they play the Colts again, and they are hoping for a more exciting game. If the Pats get humiliated, there will at least be a story line. If it's the Broncos, it's just another ho-hummer.

[Paladin]

Yeah, I don't think there is anythig to be gained in trying to trash other cities. They all have their spots of class and beauty. I trash them alot, but even Kansas City has a boatful of Water Fountains that add nicely to the ambiance of the city, and I have fond memopries of visiting the zoo and other sites there. Denver has easy access to the mountains. There are a large number of attractions here. The National Western Stock Show is on now, and it is a fun event for everyone who goes.

The same could be said, I am sure, about Boston. I have never been there, but I have been to the East Coast and there are a huge number of great places to eat and engage in cultural activites.

I don't mind trashing specific teams, and even, perhaps trolls, but not the cities themselves.

JMO.

[davdog]

Yeah, I don't think there is anythig to be gained in trying to trash other cities. They all have their spots of class and beauty. I trash them alot, but even Kansas City has a boatful of Water Fountains that add nicely to the ambiance of the city, and I have fond memopries of visiting the zoo and other sites there. Denver has easy access to the mountains. There are a large number of attractions here. The National Western Stock Show is on now, and it is a fun event for everyone who goes.

The same could be said, I am sure, about Boston. I have never been there, but I have been to the East Coast and there are a huge number of great places to eat and engage in cultural activites.

I don't mind trashing specific teams, and even, perhaps trolls, but not the cities themselves.

JMO.

I've got to agree. I went to tech school in the AF at Lowry AFB in Denver (now closed) back in the early '80s and it was great. The mountians are AWESOME. The only thing I didn't like was that damn near-beer we were forced to drink.

[shaftedelic]

I've got to agree. I went to tech school in the AF at Lowry AFB in Denver (now closed) back in the early '80s and it was great. The mountians are AWESOME. The only thing I didn't like was that damn near-beer we were forced to drink.


You mean Coors Light?

[Paladin]

You wouldn't believe old Lowry. City trying to re-develop the land and area. Looking good so far.

[terry251973]

I have asked about everyone i know that watches football somewhat and everyone of them has said new england but yet when i ask them why do you think they will win in denver and they all say because they are the champs.Other than they won the superbowl last year nobody has given me a reason why they are going to win.It seems all you have to do is win the superbowl and your a deadlock to repeat.Sorry but i think im missing something here.I was under the asumption that theres been more than 1 superbowl champion in 39 superbowls or did new england win super bowl 1 too?

[Victor]

Respect? What the hell is that really? Who knows. It's opinions and assertions, and therefore unprovable and meaningless. All that matters is scoreboard.

I don't know what a scoundrel is like, but I know what a respectable man is like, and it's enough to make one's flesh creep. Joseph De Maistre

Let's hand NE all the respect they deserve and seem to crave, then let's hand them their teeth on Saturday. Thanks for coming to Mile High.

[SportinOne]

I agree 13-3 is nothing in the AFCW.

First and out back to back playoffs doesn't warrant respect.

The Broncos have rookie Cornerbacks going against Tom Brady a proven Superbowl QB and annual MVP candidate.

Patriots are number 1 against the run these past 8 games and were 28th at the time they played the Broncos.

NOBODY is picking the Broncos....NOBODY.

Respect is earned. I hope they don't write a single article about the Broncos until after the Superbowl.

I believe Mel Kiper picked Denver.

[errand]

Not in the post season when it counts.

Everytime you've come to Denver in the post-season you've been rudely welcomed....expect more of the same.

[errand]

Are you a homophobe? You certainly are already the biggest NITWIT on this forum. You're Canadian? What a surprise! LOL

While I detest Canadians as much as the next American does (J/K)...what in his post made you think he was a "homophobe"?

[PatsRule]

Everytime you've come to Denver in the post-season you've been rudely welcomed....expect more of the same.


Everytime how about once 1986

[errand]

Everytime how about once 1986

And pray tell...how did that turn out for you?

Well, then for your sake,

"...the one time you came to Denver in the postseason, you were rudely welcomed, expect more of the same"

Doesn't change the fact that you guys suck playing Denver to begin with, let alone being in Denver playing them in a post season game.

[davdog]

Everytime how about once 1986


That was the jags that beat the broncos in '86 and it was a good thing for us. You've got to remember that broncos have beaten up on the pats like a rented mule for most of history. That is why the pats winning this saturday night is going to be so sweet.

[orangenblue2]

Everytime how about once 1986

Yes...:charge:

[Paladin]

Wrong. It's the same old, same old. Pats lose again....

[errand]

That was the jags that beat the broncos in '86 and it was a good thing for us. You've got to remember that broncos have beaten up on the pats like a rented mule for most of history. That is why the pats winning this saturday night is going to be so sweet.

Wow we must really suck to have lost a game to a team that wasn't even in the NFL in '86...............

We lost to the Jags in '96...not '86. Broncos beat the Pats 22-17 before they went to Cleveland and witnessed greatness being made.


you were right however on one thing...that the Pats were lucky the Jags beat us that year... because we'd have more than likely been the ones crowing about 3 consecutive titles.

[BroncosCanada]

While I detest Canadians as much as the next American does (J/K)...what in his post made you think he was a "homophobe"?

New avatar just for you DaveTV...kisses.

[davdog]

Wow we must really suck to have lost a game to a team that wasn't even in the NFL in '86...............

We lost to the Jags in '96...not '86. Broncos beat the Pats 22-17 before they went to Cleveland and witnessed greatness being made.


you were right however on one thing...that the Pats were lucky the Jags beat us that year... because we'd have more than likely been the ones crowing about 3 consecutive titles.


My bad, I read the year to quickly. You're right we were very happy the jags took you out in '96, but who knows about the 3peat.

[davdog]

New avatar just for you DaveTV...kisses.


So now you're bringing the guys dad into this. You are a dork. Somebody call the border patrol and keep this whacko north of the border.

[errand]

My bad, I read the year to quickly. You're right we were very happy the jags took you out in '96, but who knows about the 3peat.

We would have killed the Packers in '96.....while our running game's success might be about 50% the system we run, it still takes a talented back to make it go as smoothly as TD did from '95-'98.

See, the system allows RB's like Gary and Droughns to run for 1,100 - 1,200 yards (career years)....but the system with a talented RB like Davis in the backfield? That's when rushing records are broken or set.

Davis gained 157 yards on them despite missing virtually the entire 2nd qtr. He'd have left them in the dust in '96

[Elway 4 Life]

I will be honest with you I think boston is one of the most awesome cities in the country. It's the arrogant friggin idiots that occupy the city that I have a problem with.

[epicSocialism4tw]

You dont get it do ya...You been spending too much tim outside tipping cows

Back to back superbowl champs 3 out of 4 almost every record as far as consecutive wins 21 in the regular season 10-0 post season best quarterback best coach.They have dominated football the last few years..You do not have to be a road scholar to figure it out.

They are the champs and until you or someone beats them they will always get the nod because they have earned it...Now that's not too dificult to understand well maybe it is..

I think you meant "Rhodes Scholar."

[Northman]

Side question: Have you ever been here? It's such a popular misconception that we have clam chowder and baked beans everywhere. We don't.

If we did, the place would reek and we'd all have to move to Denver. :yayaya:

Oh, and nobody here says "Beantown". Ever.

This info is worth 3 credits at UMASS Boston if you ever decide to attend. !Booya!


Its all about Maryland Crabs my friend. ;D

[Northman]

Being the champs they had the toughest schedule in the league, with many key players and still won their division.


A very weak division at that.

[azbroncfan]

A very weak division at that.
Miami blowing the first game against NE cost miami the division.

[ozomulsion]

While I detest Canadians as much as the next American does (J/K)...what in his post made you think he was a "homophobe"?

DaveTV seems to be quite retarded. His posts make no sense.

[ozomulsion]

I think you meant "Rhodes Scholar."
Umm, his name is Patsrule. What are you trying to do?

[emoney_33]

being in a bad division means your strength of schedule is bad? Considerig you play 6 division games and 10 nondivision games... that is great logic there.



But I don't put much stock into that strength of schedule stuff, sure we had the 2nd toughest schedule in the NFL this year but that doesn't change the fact that for the first half of the year we played real bad football, although most of the reasons for that have been fixed. Of course I don't expect any of you bronco fans to actually pay attention to anything as a reason other than "you played weak teams!!" which is all i've read in every thread... BUt if you really wanna know some reasons check the "belichick's strategy' thread.

[epicSocialism4tw]

being in a bad division means your strength of schedule is bad? Considerig you play 6 division games and 10 nondivision games... that is great logic there.



But I don't put much stock into that strength of schedule stuff, sure we had the 2nd toughest schedule in the NFL this year but that doesn't change the fact that for the first half of the year we played real bad football, although most of the reasons for that have been fixed. Of course I don't expect any of you bronco fans to actually pay attention to anything as a reason other than "you played weak teams!!" which is all i've read in every thread... BUt if you really wanna know some reasons check the "belichick's strategy' thread.

Strength of schedule doesnt matter? Tell that to the Chiefs, Chargers, and Cowboys who all had excellent teams and missed out on the playoffs by losing late in the season to quality teams.

I would expect your type of argument from someone whose team lost to several of the quality opponents that it played and made the playoffs by winning the worst division in the entire NFL despite getting manhandled by both the Chargers and the Chiefs.

[Elway 4 Life]

being in a bad division means your strength of schedule is bad? Considerig you play 6 division games and 10 nondivision games... that is great logic there.



But I don't put much stock into that strength of schedule stuff, sure we had the 2nd toughest schedule in the NFL this year but that doesn't change the fact that for the first half of the year we played real bad football, although most of the reasons for that have been fixed. Of course I don't expect any of you bronco fans to actually pay attention to anything as a reason other than "you played weak teams!!" which is all i've read in every thread... BUt if you really wanna know some reasons check the "belichick's strategy' thread.

Strength of schedule is determined at the beginning of the season. Before the season started there division was supposed to be something special. I have magazines at home that have the jets as a superbowl contender as well as the bills. They stunk this year so the whole strength of schedule arguement is BS. The pats did not have the strongest schedule in the NFL.

[CaptBroncoCape]

Hey Mile High I hate Chowda and the ocean is overated...
And SO ARE THE PATS!

[VileTom]

thats correct, because they had 4 games against our broncos and the cheifs!
the pats had a cupcake schedule, it may have looked alittle togher, smothered in beans and clam chowder, but the pats beat a bunch of cupcakes.
their schedule was about as tough as matt leinehrts this season at USC, school schedule, he took ballroom dancing as his only course.


The Patriots had a slightly stronger SOS than the Broncos despite the weak division opponents. The Broncos played the Jags and Ravens while the Patriots played the Colts and Steelers.

[trench]

The Pats had the 10 toughest schedule (11th last week before the Jax game). Broncos 4th toughest.

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/sagarin/nfl05.htm

[epicSocialism4tw]

Here's the Pats' schedule:

<TABLE cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=1 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR class=sports-light><TD class=boxscorefooter>/8/2005</TD><TD class=boxscorefooter> Oakland (http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/nfl/raiders/home.htm) </TD><TD class=boxscorefooter align=right>W 30 - 20 (http://www.usatoday.com/sports/scores105/105251/NFL144497.htm) </TD></TR><TR><TD class=boxscorefooter> 9/18/2005</TD><TD class=boxscorefooter> at Carolina (http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/nfl/panthers/home.htm) </TD><TD class=boxscorefooter align=right>L 17 - 27 (http://www.usatoday.com/sports/scores105/105261/NFL144520.htm) </TD></TR><TR class=sports-light><TD class=boxscorefooter> 9/25/2005</TD><TD class=boxscorefooter> at Pittsburgh (http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/nfl/steelers/home.htm) </TD><TD class=boxscorefooter align=right>W 23 - 20 (http://www.usatoday.com/sports/scores105/105268/NFL144540.htm) </TD></TR><TR><TD class=boxscorefooter> 10/2/2005</TD><TD class=boxscorefooter> San Diego (http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/nfl/chargers/home.htm) </TD><TD class=boxscorefooter align=right>L 17 - 41 (http://www.usatoday.com/sports/scores105/105275/NFL144546.htm) </TD></TR><TR class=sports-light><TD class=boxscorefooter> 10/9/2005</TD><TD class=boxscorefooter> at Atlanta (http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/nfl/falcons/home.htm) </TD><TD class=boxscorefooter align=right>W 31 - 28 (http://www.usatoday.com/sports/scores105/105282/NFL144562.htm) </TD></TR><TR><TD class=boxscorefooter> 10/16/2005</TD><TD class=boxscorefooter> at Denver (http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/nfl/broncos/home.htm) </TD><TD class=boxscorefooter align=right>L 20 - 28 (http://www.usatoday.com/sports/scores105/105289/NFL144581.htm) </TD></TR><TR class=sports-light><TD class=boxscorefooter> 10/30/2005</TD><TD class=boxscorefooter> Buffalo (http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/nfl/bills/home.htm) </TD><TD class=boxscorefooter align=right>W 21 - 16 (http://www.usatoday.com/sports/scores105/105303/NFL144611.htm) </TD></TR><TR><TD class=boxscorefooter> 11/7/2005</TD><TD class=boxscorefooter> Indianapolis (http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/nfl/colts/home.htm) </TD><TD class=boxscorefooter align=right>L 21 - 40 (http://www.usatoday.com/sports/scores105/105311/NFL144626.htm) </TD></TR><TR class=sports-light><TD class=boxscorefooter> 11/13/2005</TD><TD class=boxscorefooter> at Miami (http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/nfl/dolphins/home.htm) </TD><TD class=boxscorefooter align=right>W 23 - 16 (http://www.usatoday.com/sports/scores105/105317/NFL144633.htm) </TD></TR><TR><TD class=boxscorefooter> 11/20/2005</TD><TD class=boxscorefooter> New Orleans (http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/nfl/saints/home.htm) </TD><TD class=boxscorefooter align=right>W 24 - 17 (http://www.usatoday.com/sports/scores105/105324/NFL149470.htm) </TD></TR><TR class=sports-light><TD class=boxscorefooter> 11/27/2005</TD><TD class=boxscorefooter> at Kansas City (http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/nfl/chiefs/home.htm) </TD><TD class=boxscorefooter align=right>L 16 - 26 (http://www.usatoday.com/sports/scores105/105331/NFL144660.htm) </TD></TR><TR><TD class=boxscorefooter> 12/4/2005</TD><TD class=boxscorefooter> N.Y. Jets (http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/nfl/jets/home.htm) </TD><TD class=boxscorefooter align=right>W 16 - 3 (http://www.usatoday.com/sports/scores105/105338/NFL144685.htm) </TD></TR><TR class=sports-light><TD class=boxscorefooter> 12/11/2005</TD><TD class=boxscorefooter> at Buffalo (http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/nfl/bills/home.htm) </TD><TD class=boxscorefooter align=right>W 35 - 7 (http://www.usatoday.com/sports/scores105/105345/NFL144690.htm) </TD></TR><TR><TD class=boxscorefooter> 12/17/2005</TD><TD class=boxscorefooter> Tampa Bay (http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/nfl/bucs/home.htm) </TD><TD class=boxscorefooter align=right>W 28 - 0 (http://www.usatoday.com/sports/scores105/105351/NFL144704.htm) </TD></TR><TR class=sports-light><TD class=boxscorefooter> 12/26/2005</TD><TD class=boxscorefooter> at N.Y. Jets (http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/nfl/jets/home.htm) </TD><TD class=boxscorefooter align=right>W 31 - 21 (http://www.usatoday.com/sports/scores105/105360/NFL144735.htm) </TD></TR><TR><TD class=boxscorefooter> 1/1/2006</TD><TD class=boxscorefooter> Miami (http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/nfl/dolphins/home.htm) </TD><TD class=boxscorefooter align=right>L 26 - 28 (http://www.usatoday.com/sports/scores106/106001/NFL144746.htm) </TD></TR><TR class=sports-light><TD class=boxscorefooter> 1/7/2006</TD><TD class=boxscorefooter> Jacksonville (http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/nfl/jaguars/home.htm) </TD><TD class=boxscorefooter align=right>W 28 - 3 (http://www.usatoday.com/sports/scores106/106007/NFL164994.htm) </TD></TR><TR bgColor=#e4b6a5><TD class=boxscoreheader> Date</TD><TD class=boxscoreheader> Opponent</TD><TD class=boxscoreheader align=right>Time </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

[terry251973]

wow the jets twice and buffalo along with the no offense buccaneers during that 4 game winning streak.I am impressed.Our poor broncos are in trouble.I dont see how we can compete after seeing them dispose of them 3 powerhouses.

[VileTom]

The Pats had the 10 toughest schedule (11th last week before the Jax game). Broncos 4th toughest.

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/sagarin/nfl05.htm

That's Sagarin's own system not the way the NFL calculates it. The NFL does it by WL record of opponents, count the teams in your own division twice.

[epicSocialism4tw]

The only thing that might give the Pats an advantage in strength of schedule is the fact that they had to play Denver and Denver had to play the Pats.