Getting Away With It

[Bronco_Beerslug]

Good point by Wilbon!

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Getting Away With It
By Michael Wilbon

Tuesday, January 10, 2006; Page E01

If the NFL is willing to fine Clinton Portis $20,000 for wearing the wrong socks and a tinted visor, one would think the league could muster up the courage to really hammer anybody who had the gall to spit in another man's face during a game, right in front of the referee no less.

Since the NFL fined Redskins safety Sean Taylor only $17,000 yesterday for spitting in the face of Tampa Bay running back Michael Pittman, the only thing we can conclude is that the league is more offended by mismatched socks than having one of its players ejected during a playoff game for doing something truly vile and detestable.

Taylor and the Redskins are lucky they found a judge who was more lenient than I would have been. At best, Taylor should have been fined $100,000.

This isn't his first offense; Taylor is in just his second season but already is developing a reputation for hitting late and headhunting.

Not only that, this probably isn't even Taylor's first spitting offense; Bengals wide receiver T.J. Houshmandzadeh accused Taylor of spitting in his face last year immediately after a game at FedEx Field.

And if Taylor and the NFL Players Association balked at a $100,000 fine, then okay, he could keep his money and simply sit out Saturday's playoff game at Seattle in a one-game suspension. The NFL punked out on this one. They like to play tough cop on socks and visors, and whether a guy's hair is covering the league's and manufacturer's logos, but won't confront a spitter caught in the act by one on-the-money referee.

See, it's always very late in the game when schools and leagues throw down a zero-tolerance policy for this kind of behavior. For way too long it's one slap on the wrist after another until, if you're like Marcus Vick or Sean Taylor, you think everybody is bluffing and you can get away with whatever you want.

Then again, maybe Marcus Vick is somebody who believes his athletic prowess means no rules pertain to him. He can threaten anybody, break any rules and laws in the interest of keeping it real . The latest on Vick, according to police in Suffolk, Va., is that he allegedly brandished a firearm at three people at a McDonald's Sunday night. This comes a couple of days after being kicked out of Virginia Tech, upon which he said: "It's not a big deal. . . . I'll just move to the next level, baby."
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[Garcia Bronco]

Wilbon can suck a dick. he's as classless as they come.

[fontaine]

Then again, maybe Marcus Vick is somebody who believes his athletic prowess means no rules pertain to him. He can threaten anybody, break any rules and laws in the interest of keeping it real . The latest on Vick, according to police in Suffolk, Va., is that he allegedly brandished a firearm at three people at a McDonald's Sunday night. This comes a couple of days after being kicked out of Virginia Tech, upon which he said: "It's not a big deal. . . . I'll just move to the next level, baby."

If this turns out to be true then Vick is already reaching MoClo levels of stupidity.

[Bronco_Beerslug]

Wilbon can suck a dick. he's as classless as they come.

rofl LOL

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[Garcia Bronco]

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No seriously....he owes me and every other Virginia Tech Alum an apology for what he said on his show the other week. **** him and his gay newspaper.

[Bronco_Beerslug]

No seriously....he owes me and every other Virginia Tech Alum an apology for what he said on his show the other week. **** him and his gay newspaper.
What did he say?

[Mile High Shack]

What did he say?

probably the truth regarding the criminal Vick the younger

Vick the younger is a big piece of trash who will soon hear the metal bars of "clink" shut on him

[Ratboy]

Sean Taylor is one of the best safeties out there. He went to far by spitting in Pittman's face.

He should have been hit with a higher fine though.

[footstepsfrom#27]

No seriously....he owes me and every other Virginia Tech Alum an apology for what he said on his show the other week. **** him and his gay newspaper.
Don't know what he said then but he's right on about this.

[RaiderH8r]

What was Romo's punishment for hawking one in Stokes' face?

[Mile High Shack]

What was Romo's punishment for hawking one in Stokes' face?

I think 7500K

[RaiderH8r]

I think 7500K
What about after you adjust it for inflation?

I guess hawking a lunger isn't as bad as one might think.

[Garcia Bronco]

JJ Stokes deserved what he got for what he said about Romo's wife and family.

[Garcia Bronco]

probably the truth regarding the criminal Vick the younger

Vick the younger is a big piece of trash who will soon hear the metal bars of "clink" shut on him


He trashed and slandered the entire school and football program...so he can take a flying leap. If I owned a resturant and he came in...I'd tell him we don't serve his kind here and kick him to the curb.

[Mile High Shack]

He trashed and slandered the entire school and football program...so he can take a flying leap. If I owned a resturant and he came in...I'd tell him we don't serve his kind here and kick him to the curb.

well

if he trashed the whole school that was wrong

VaTech did the right thing by kicking that piece of trash Vick to the curb

[Garcia Bronco]

well

if he trashed the whole school that was wrong

VaTech did the right thing by kicking that piece of trash Vick to the curb


I don't know about piece of trash...the kid has mental issues and needs help. I just hope he gets it.

[RaiderH8r]

JJ Stokes deserved what he got for what he said about Romo's wife and family.
Which was? I'm sure it was a gem.

[OrangeShadow]

while i HATE wilbon he raises a valid point

[Pat Bowlen]

No seriously....he owes me and every other Virginia Tech Alum an apology for what he said on his show the other week. **** him and his gay newspaper.
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[Mediator12]

I don't know about piece of trash...the kid has mental issues and needs help. I just hope he gets it.

The problem with Marcus, Ron Artest, TO, Clarett, and Taylor and the like is they do not think they are they problem. It is always somebody else's fault. They have zero personal accountability because people have rewarded and encouraged their poor behavior's in the past. To the point now, that unless they have something seriously shake their perspective beyond their current view they will never ask for or take any help seriously.

BTW, most of the counselors they are forced to see are not equipped to deal with this kind of counseling. It is beyond their "competency" but more often than not they see the Client anyway. Ethics of the counselors also comes into question when attempting to treat these athletes. Their failures have made it very hard for pro Coaches to trust Sports Psychologists with legitimate skills at all, since the previous efforts of unqualified specialists was poor.

Believe me, I see it every day in family counseling. The cultural Word is "entitlement", the therapeutic word is "nonresponsive". At the heart of almost every problem is someone's ego not wanting to change or being threatened in some way that the system can not deal with inevitable changes. I am doing my research thesis on Sports "entitlement". It has been very interesting to research at this point.

[Garcia Bronco]

Which was? I'm sure it was a gem.


It's been so long...but it was something about his wife and mother.

[Garcia Bronco]

The problem with Marcus, Ron Artest, TO, Clarett, and Taylor and the like is they do not think they are they problem. It is always somebody else's fault. They have zero personal accountability because people have rewarded and encouraged their poor behavior's in the past. To the point now, that unless they have something seriously shake their perspective beyond their current view they will never ask for or take any help seriously.

Believe me, I see it every day in family counseling. The cultural Word is "entitlement", the therapeutic word is "nonresponsive". At the heart of almost every problem is someone's ego not wanting to change or being threatened in some way that the system can not deal with inevitable changes. I am doing my research thesis on Sports "entitlement". It has been very interesting to research at this point.


I think when you're pulling a gun in a town not your own at a McDonalds on kids talking trash to you for being Marcus Vick...I think you've got mental issues....and I don't think it has anything to do with entitlement...and everything to do with a complete lack of mental stability...or poor home training.

[Bronco_Beerslug]

He trashed and slandered the entire school and football program...so he can take a flying leap. If I owned a resturant and he came in...I'd tell him we don't serve his kind here and kick him to the curb.

What did he say exactly?

[Pat Bowlen]

I think when you're pulling a gun in a town not your own at a McDonalds on kids talking trash to you for being Marcus Vick...I think you've got mental issues....and I don't think it has anything to do with entitlement...and everything to do with a complete lack of mental stability...or poor home training.
You're right when you say it is a mental issue, but I don't think it has anything to do with stability. He's just a complete dumbass.

[Garcia Bronco]

What did he say exactly?


I don't remember verbatium....but I will no longer watch his show....or read anything that he writes. Virginia Tech this...Virginia Tech that.

[halfcreek]

Wilbon can suck a dick. he's as classless as they come.
That's a classful post.

[Garcia Bronco]

That's a classful post.


I apologize...he can eat a bowl of dick.

[Bronco_Beerslug]

I apologize...he can eat a bowl of dick.

So is that what he said on his show or was it something more to the point of addressing the idiot VT had been cuddling for the last 2 years?


Real tasty language for a mod there Garcia :thumbsup:

[Mediator12]

I think when you're pulling a gun in a town not your own at a McDonalds on kids talking trash to you for being Marcus Vick...I think you've got mental issues....and I don't think it has anything to do with entitlement...and everything to do with a complete lack of mental stability...or poor home training.


Entitlement is what the issue is in both your responses. Poor Home environment without correction and other factors involve social stability. Not mental Stability, however. I am sure Marcus knew what he was doing and that others would view it as wrong. The problem is he has gotten away with it more than he was punished or corrected for it. That is a working definition of entitlement.

Mental Stability is not what most people think Garcia.

[Garcia Bronco]

So is that what he said on his show or was it something more to the point of addressing the idiot VT had been cuddling for the last 2 years?


Real tasty language for a mod there Garcia :thumbsup:


I must admit I obviously feel strongly about it. He trashed the school and the topic came up because of Marcus and Dumervil. He took it step further than it needed to be and he did two days in-a-row and I haven't watched PTI since then....and I never will again

[Garcia Bronco]

Entitlement is what the issue is in both your responses. Poor Home environment without correction and other factors involve social stability. Not mental Stability, however. I am sure Marcus knew what he was doing and that others would view it as wrong. The problem is he has gotten away with it more than he was punished or corrected for it. That is a working definition of entitlement.

Mental Stability is not what most people think Garcia.

I'm fully aware of what mental stability is...since I've not clinically seen him I can't testify...but he could very well have an actual chemical problem in his head.

[Pat Bowlen]

Why make excuses and complicate everything? He's an idiot.