New England is walking into a hell storm...

[Taco John]

...man, I can't believe the energy. I can just feel it surging through the keyboard. The traffic numbers are out of the park. People are jacked up. This is just Monday. The city of Denver is just starting to buzz. I haven't witnessed energy like this on a Monday before a game... Denver fans are realizing how huge it is to get the Superbowl Champs invited to their own home, and they're getting ready to give them all the hell they can handle.

This is going to be huge.

[RMT]

...man, I can't believe the energy. I can just feel it surging through the keyboard. The traffic numbers are out of the park. People are jacked up. This is just Monday. The city of Denver is just starting to buzz. I haven't witnessed energy like this on a Monday before a game... Denver fans are realizing how huge it is to get the Superbowl Champs invited to their own home, and they're getting ready to give them all the hell they can handle.

This is going to be huge.

You ainta kiddin' ... are you going to the game on Saturday? I'll be in the infamous South Stands ... time to resuscitate the ghosts of Broncos past.

[Taco John]

Unfortunately, I'm not going to make it.

I think it might be the biggest mistake of my life to miss it, but duty calls.

[Kaylore]

The radio was crazy today people are calling in off the hook. Eveyone that came into work made some comment about it (the game) and you're seing Broncos flags on car windows already. It is probably the most excited I've seen this town about this team in a looooong time.

[dsmoot]

Unfortunately, I'm not going to make it.

I think it might be the biggest mistake of my life to miss it, but duty calls.

I am so glad the playoff scenario is turning out just like it is. Denver has to prove itself. There is no better way than tackling the team that has won 3 of last 4 Superbowls and appears to be on a rebound. No need to look beyond this one. This game will only strengthen the team confidence for the next one. I would like to see the fans so pumped up to help the team rise to the next level. The city of Denver needs to remind the national audience of that old Orange Crush excitement and craziness.

I hope Jake comes in cool as ice and not out of the character he has stuck to so far this season.

[Mile High Shack]

I don't even live in Denver and I am jacked up for this game

The disrespect we are getting is driving me nuts

you know the boys are getting pumped up for this game..........

I sense a W for the good guys and the media finally going to have to eat crow

[Northman]

I say let the media disrespect us the rest of the playoffs. :)

[Mile High Shack]

I say let the media disrespect us the rest of the playoffs. :)

oh
they will

it won't matter if we manage to beat the annoited "team of god-men" or not this weekend

we will be picked to lose from here on out...even "if" we manage to beat the other messiah of the NFL the next week

but that's how I like it

[RMT]

Of course, if the Broncos win it'll be because Bruschi is injured or that the Patriots were too overcome by the lengthy season of numerous injuries.

[Needa Pass Rush]

I hope Jake comes in cool as ice and not out of the character he has stuck to so far this season.

I hope that Plummer heaves the ball as far as he can downfield on the first play from scrimmage to loosen up everybody's hinges...... settle the nerves.... fire up the crowd...... loosen up the running lanes.

Where is Ricky Nattiel?

[Crowpointer]

No question that playoff games are off the chart as far as fan intensity. I was at he October game and I thought the section I was in (129)was suprisingly mellow. It seemed to be older season ticket holders. When the Pats launched their late charge the end zone sections were all standing on 3rd downs making noise while 129 was sitting. For this game I am sitting all by my lonesome in section 122 row 5 (a result of my one ticket search on ticketmaster when the tickets went on sale) my brother is in 110 row 18. I am psyched to compare Playoff fan intensity at Mile high to Gillette.Can't wait til Saturday.

[Northman]

oh
they will

it won't matter if we manage to beat the annoited "team of god-men" or not this weekend

we will be picked to lose from here on out...even "if" we manage to beat the other messiah of the NFL the next week

but that's how I like it


Yesssir. love being under the radar. hehe

[Mile High Shack]

No question that playoff games are off the chart as far as fan intensity. I was at he October game and I thought the section I was in (129)was suprisingly mellow. It seemed to be older season ticket holders. When the Pats launched their late charge the end zone sections were all standing on 3rd downs making noise while 129 was sitting. For this game I am sitting all by my lonesome in section 122 row 5 (a result of my one ticket search on ticketmaster when the tickets went on sale) my brother is in 110 row 18. I am psyched to compare Playoff fan intensity at Mile high to Gillette.Can't wait til Saturday.

you are going to be in for a surprise

there hasn't been this much anti-bronco talk in the media in a long time when we have had a good record

Bronco fans are a touchy group and it is going to be rockin' on saturday night

expect about 3-5 false start penalties on your patched up oline and Brady using about 2 TO's when he doesn't want to

[RMT]

No question that playoff games are off the chart as far as fan intensity. I was at he October game and I thought the section I was in (129)was suprisingly mellow. It seemed to be older season ticket holders. When the Pats launched their late charge the end zone sections were all standing on 3rd downs making noise while 129 was sitting. For this game I am sitting all by my lonesome in section 122 row 5 (a result of my one ticket search on ticketmaster when the tickets went on sale) my brother is in 110 row 18. I am psyched to compare Playoff fan intensity at Mile high to Gillette.Can't wait til Saturday.

Yeah, and the score was 28-3, too. Don't worry, you and your Patriots are going to get a healthy dose of Rocky Mountain Thunder.

[Florida_Bronco]

This is going to be the longest week of my life....LET'S KICK SOME PATROIT ASS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Northman]

I can tell you this much, im going to have a lot of butterflies before and during this game and im not even playing! lol

[Sassy]

I need to replenish the beer supply ;D

[Hercules Rockefeller]

...man, I can't believe the energy. I can just feel it surging through the keyboard. The traffic numbers are out of the park. People are jacked up. This is just Monday. The city of Denver is just starting to buzz. I haven't witnessed energy like this on a Monday before a game... Denver fans are realizing how huge it is to get the Superbowl Champs invited to their own home, and they're getting ready to give them all the hell they can handle.

This is going to be huge.

I'm thinking the week of pent up energy from the bye has something to do with it too.

[DHallblows]

I really hope that when they announce the no-shows, it's a single digit number...that would be amazing. Not likely, but that would make my day.

[elsid13]

I need to replenish the beer supply ;D

Heck I do that every other night it seems. I pulling out the lucky brand for Saturday. It the beer I started drinking when my Red Sox won the series. Started when where down to NY and never looked back.

[RMT]

I really hope that when they announce the no-shows, it's a single digit number...that would be amazing. Not likely, but that would make my day.

I don't know what the record low is but the lowest I can remember is something like 112, but I know there have been fewer no-shows than that. I think it's something between 10-20.

[Crowpointer]

Yeah, and the score was 28-3, too. Don't worry, you and your Patriots are going to get a healthy dose of Rocky Mountain Thunder.
Looking forward to it. I hope it lives up to it's reputation. That's what makes life great. You going ?

[RMT]

Looking forward to it. I hope it lives up to it's reputation. That's what makes life great. You going ?

Yes, I'll be in section 231 (south stands).

[Hercules Rockefeller]

I don't know what the record low is but the lowest I can remember is something like 112, but I know there have been fewer no-shows than that. I think it's something between 10-20.

The "record" is 0 no-shows for the final game at Mile High when they played the 49ers. Of course the ticket people didn't rip tickets that day, they just eye-balled them and let people through.

[Crowpointer]

you are going to be in for a surprise

there hasn't been this much anti-bronco talk in the media in a long time when we have had a good record

Bronco fans are a touchy group and it is going to be rockin' on saturday night

expect about 3-5 false start penalties on your patched up oline and Brady using about 2 TO's when he doesn't want to
The first priority is to avoid having beer thrown on me .

[RMT]

The first priority is to avoid having beer thrown on me .

Whether or not that happens is pretty much up to you ... :~ohyah!:

[Crowpointer]

Whether or not that happens is pretty much up to you ... :~ohyah!:
I'll be wearing the colors and cheering for my team but I am not stupid enough to talk smack in a visitng stadium. I am a season ticket holder too and I hate obnoxious visiting fans as much as you.

[footstepsfrom#27]

People to young to have experienced the first Bronco Superbowl run in the '77 season really missed something. The Broncos had never even had a winning record outside of one lowly season. They'd never even made the playoffs, and during that 1st magical playoff season we rode an emotional torrent of orange passion that had to be seen and felt to be believed. Denver turned orange overnight. People painted their houses orange, their cars, even their pets. There were orange hairdos and everyone in the whole city was juiced on an electricity you could almost physically touch. The final playoff game before the Superbowl, the AFC championship win over the hated Raiders was the most emotionally draining game I've ever experienced. Nothing ever replaces that first Cinderella season when it's new for the first time. There were no jaded, cynical people...no doubters or haters or people trying to knock the rest of us down. A guy sold his motorcyle for $5000 to buy a pair of tickets. People camped in the Mile High parking lot for 4 days sleeping in tents and cars to be first in line when tickets went on sale. Somebody auctioned a date with his wife in the RMN for tickets...crazy stuff.

It was pure joyous madness.

I'd love to see that happen again, but I don't think you can ever repeat that magic again...not in the same way. I just hope this season's run can bring back a bit of that exhileration and fervor once again. The team and the city both need this.

[waz06]

Yes, I'll be in section 231 (south stands).

Me too. The South (Stands) will rise again. Yeehah (Rebel Yell?)
:charge:

[RMT]

Me too. The South (Stands) will rise again. Yeehah (Rebel Yell?)
:charge:

I love it when the Stadium scrolls "Are you Down there South Standers"?

[minibronco]

Mile High Resurrection

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v612/avengerman/sig4torotate.jpg

[CheeseHead]

I am so glad the playoff scenario is turning out just like it is. Denver has to prove itself. There is no better way than tackling the team that has won 3 of last 4 Superbowls and appears to be on a rebound. No need to look beyond this one. This game will only strengthen the team confidence for the next one. I would like to see the fans so pumped up to help the team rise to the next level. The city of Denver needs to remind the national audience of that old Orange Crush excitement and craziness.

I hope Jake comes in cool as ice and not out of the character he has stuck to so far this season.

I feel if Denver beats NE this weekend, they'll be collecting their 3rd Lombardi in 8 years. 3 out of 4 is very impressive, but 3 out of 8 is nothing to sneeze at either. That great Niner team of the 80's won 4 out of 9.

I just have this gut feeling that this will be Plummer's best post season performance to date. I do think though that it will still be a very close game. If NE goes down, which I think they will, they'll go down swinging hard like the defending champs they are. If that does indeed happen, I still got to give them alot of props & credit for what they accomplished this year and how they just turned it all around. Very impressive. Good luck to both teams! Like McGinnest said, "The best team is going to win". Neither team will be beating themselves in this one. I see both teams leaving their best on the field, along with maybe some blood and bones as well. ;)

[Doufer]

someone gotta make a sign at the game "show some damn respect, ESPN!"

[SoCalBronco]

I have a feeling this is going to be one of our finest performances in the last few years.

[PatriotReign37]

Of course, if the Broncos win it'll be because Bruschi is injured or that the Patriots were too overcome by the lengthy season of numerous injuries.

And if the Pats win what will be your excuse??

Those not giving NE a shot to win are setting themselves up for a let down.

[Bronx33]

I just can't wait to be in the same stadium as Tedy Bruschi ..;)

[gunns]

Feeling it here in Utah too. I wear a Bronco jacket in the winter and for the first time since the SB seasons people are commenting saying they like the jacket, Denver is their team too, Denver's going all the way, yeah Broncos! There really is a feeling in the air. Success!

[PatriotReign37]

I just can't wait to be in the same stadium as Tedy Bruschi ..;)

I cant wait until Bruschi picks off Plummer and the whole house of cards begins to topple.

[terry251973]

for the last time fck the pats.everybody except denver and colt fans have their head so far up the pats ass that they cant see that this team is no where near what they were before and neither are the teams they think they can beat.

[scorpio]

I cant wait until Bruschi picks off Plummer and the whole house of cards begins to topple.


Your screenname paints you as a bandwagoner. How sad.

One or two people on this board were even fans BEFORE Denver won their first superbowl! Imagine that you frontrunning chowderhead. :giggle:

[terry251973]

I cant wait until Bruschi picks off Plummer and the whole house of cards begins to topple.
the only thing bruschi will be picking is his nose when hes sitting on the bench covered up in his jacket freezing his wuzzy ass off.

[BroncoFanDoug]

It was pure joyous madness.

I'd love to see that happen again, but I don't think you can ever repeat that magic again...not in the same way. I just hope this season's run can bring back a bit of that exhileration and fervor once again. The team and the city both need this.

For me, NOTHING approached (or will ever approach) the 1st SB win. I sat up watching re-runs and VCR of the parade with tears in my eyes for weeks. Of course it did not hurt that I was there, but it would still be 1.

The 1st Ralston playoff run was number 2. 2nd SB was number 3.

This playoff game would be great. A SB win this year would become my new number 2! Make all the noise you can (I can't make the game) and let's keep our eyes on the REAL prize...

[broncofan]

Get loud Denver.

There's nothing I would love more than to be at that game on Saturday. I hope not a single fan walks out of that stadium with a voice. Home field advantage, baby. Let it all go.

:Broncos:

[GreatBronco16]

To all of you Bronco fans heading to the game. Be loud, and get even louder when Brady walks out. Get into their heads. Talk some major **** to all of them. Do not let them quiet the crowd one bit. Let the defense feed and feed off you guys. And last, be sure to yell for me.

Give them hell guys.

[PatriotReign37]

Your screenname paints you as a bandwagoner. How sad.

One or two people on this board were even fans BEFORE Denver won their first superbowl! Imagine that you frontrunning chowderhead. :giggle:

Nice work Barney Fife.

The 37 is for Rodney Harrison not SB37. Tampa won that one remember?? DUH

I've been on the bandwagon for 35 years Nummy.

[PatriotReign37]

the only thing bruschi will be picking is his nose when hes sitting on the bench covered up in his jacket freezing his wuzzy ass off.

Freezing in Denver??? Oh my. Thats NE kind of weather.

[scorpio]

Nice work Barney Fife.

The 37 is for Rodney Harrison not SB37. Tampa won that one remember?? DUH

I've been on the bandwagon for 35 years Nummy.


I didn't say anything about the #37, swift. But the Patriots sure as hell didn't "reign" anything before the last couple years. Let me break this down for you:

You = frontrunner

Keep telling yourself that you're a real fan, Nancy.

[Mile High Shack]

I cant wait until Bruschi picks off Plummer and the whole house of cards begins to topple.

wouldn't he have to be on the field to do that?:thumbsup:

[REB]

A few of us came feel the energy all the way out here on the east coast! I'm so ready!

1-2-3 :Broncos:!!!!!!! :charge:

[RMT]

And if the Pats win what will be your excuse??

Those not giving NE a shot to win are setting themselves up for a let down.

How convenient for you to join OrangeMane in January instead of October ... once you get your 100+ posts in, I'll start heeding your "warnings" of a let down.

[RMT]

Freezing in Denver??? Oh my. Thats NE kind of weather.

But it aint the same as NE weather when it's NE weather at Invesco.

[REB]

Early weather report for Sat...

http://www.weather.com/activities/events/sports/weather/weekend.html?locid=USCO0105&from=search

[RMT]

Early weather report for Sat...

http://www.weather.com/activities/events/sports/weather/weekend.html?locid=USCO0105&from=search

I don't care for the high winds, but the game's in Denver so I can't complain too much :)

[REB]

Well the Patriots throw it alot so that hurts them. We have the #2 rushing D to handle Dillon/Faulk and we have a much better running game then they do so I think if it's windy it hurts them more then it does us.

1-2-3 :Broncos:!!!!!!! :charge:

[Al Wilson]

What a bunch of sad ****s.

Are they really that bored?

I can't wait till Saturday. I bet these ass clowns won't be here on Sunday when the so called 'the Pats ...ahem... worst team everrrrr...... will go all the way' will get their asses kicked as Invesco will be rocking.

Ok assholes, remember to bring your tissues after the game.

[RMT]

Well the Patriots throw it alot so that hurts them. We have the #2 rushing D to handle Dillon/Faulk and we have a much better running game then they do so I think if it's windy it hurts them more then it does us.

1-2-3 :Broncos:!!!!!!! :charge:

I like your optimism and take on the "high winds"

:thumbs:

[REB]

I like your optimism and take on the "high winds"

:thumbs:

:thanku: :)

1-2-3 :Broncos:!!!!!!! :charge:

[Malcontent]

I dont give a rats a$$ about the weather! I'm flying in from 78 degree temps in Phoenix....Whatever will be.....Just be boisterous, proud, crazy fans, and we will prevail on top. Edit.

[terry251973]

What a bunch of sad ****s.

Are they really that bored?

I can't wait till Saturday. I bet these ass clowns won't be here on Sunday when the so called 'the Pats ...ahem... worst team everrrrr...... will go all the way' will get their asses kicked as Invesco will be rocking.

Ok a-holes, remember to bring your tissues after the game.
well you have to be a bunch of sad****s to come to the opposing teams forum and talk about how good your team is and spread the word from the book of brady.going to another teams forum to talk chit is as lowclass as it comes.

[Bronx33]

What a bunch of sad ****s.

Are they really that bored?

I can't wait till Saturday. I bet these ass clowns won't be here on Sunday when the so called 'the Pats ...ahem... worst team everrrrr...... will go all the way' will get their asses kicked as Invesco will be rocking.

Ok a-holes, remember to bring your tissues after the game.

Tedy Bruschi does not cry...

[coachmastermind]

Is there any way to pass along the idea to the Broncos to show the video clip on the Jumbo Tron of Brady's press conference last week were he said "we're the most disrespected team in the league"... ?

Imagine a 3rd or 4th down... they play that... not that the crowd already won't be nuts... but that would just put them over the top...

[PatriotReign37]

I didn't say anything about the #37, swift. But the Patriots sure as hell didn't "reign" anything before the last couple years. Let me break this down for you:

You = frontrunner

Keep telling yourself that you're a real fan, Nancy.


Why dont you come tell me in sec 126 row 16 seats 5 and 6.

Step up Bigmouth

[PatriotReign37]

Tedy Bruschi does not cry...


But Romo does

[scorpio]

Why dont you come tell me in sec 126 row 16 seats 5 and 6.

Step up Bigmouth

If I see you, I guarantee I'll twist your little pinhead off like a stubborn mule. Not that you'll actually cop to being a Pats fan when your team is getting killed at 5300 feet.

[Malcontent]

Why dont you come tell me in sec 126 row 16 seats 5 and 6.

Step up Bigmouth


Sure..I'll send my 86 nyr old Granny over there. She will set you straight.

[dbroncos31]

I'm fired up for the game right now. at 12:16 ET on tuesday morning. WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!

I'm gonna be in New Hampshire during the game, because I'm going skiing with my family. I'm gonna raise some hell while I'm up there. After we win, I'm gonna make sure to grab a Boston Globe or something to see what they say.

[Bronx33]

But Romo does

Iam sure you have a point in there somewhere.

[PatriotReign37]

If I see you, I guarantee I'll twist your little pinhead off like a stubborn mule. Not that you'll actually cop to being a Pats fan when your team is getting killed at 5300 feet.

I'll be in 126 row 16 seats 5 and 6. I'll have Pats gear on.

Like I said STEP UP

[Bronx33]

Why dont you come tell me in sec 126 row 16 seats 5 and 6.

Step up Bigmouth


ATTN: The internet tough guy has arrived

[The Big E]

I'll be in 126 row 16 seats 5 and 6. I'll have Pats gear on.

Like I said STEP UP
You say you've been a fan for 35 years, which makes you at least 35 years old. Why don't you grow up you freak and quit acting like a goddamn 13 year old. Loser.

[Borks147]

I'm fired up for the game right now. at 12:16 ET on tuesday morning. WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!

I'm gonna be in New Hampshire during the game, because I'm going skiing with my family. I'm gonna raise some hell while I'm up there. After we win, I'm gonna make sure to grab a Boston Globe or something to see what they say.

Oh dude you're gonna have fun up here if we win. I can't wait to rub it in to these pats lovers

[scorpio]

ATTN: The internet tough guy has arrived
Don't blame him Bronx, that was the best defense that a Patsie's bandwagon-jumper could come up with at such short notice. Whoever is really sitting in those seats had better be nice people. (I keed! I keed!)

[REB]

Don't mess with him guys, he's a bad a$$. See.......

[bronco610]

He must be big he needs 2 seats !!!

[BroncoBuff]

The disrespect we are getting is driving me nuts!
I say let the media disrespect us the rest of the playoffs.

Eat crow ? . . . Disrepect ? !

Denver is favored by 3 1/2! (I read in another thread anyway).

You want disrespect? How about this: I BLEED ORANGE, and yet my money is on New England.

[PatriotReign37]

Don't blame him Bronx, that was the best defense that a Patsie's bandwagon-jumper could come up with at such short notice. Whoever is really sitting in those seats had better be nice people. (I keed! I keed!)

Those are my seats. I'll be there.

[Bronx33]

Eat crow ? . . . Disrepect ? !

Denver is favored by 3 1/2! (I read in another thread anyway).

You want disrespect? How about this: I BLEED ORANGE, and yet my money is on New England.



EHHHHHH?????

[Al Wilson]

EHHHHHH?????
That's BroncoBluff for ya

[24champ]

Those are my seats. I'll be there.
Why dont you meet up with the fans before the game and whoever is standing last gets your f*cking tickets!

[Atlas]

I don't know what the record low is but the lowest I can remember is something like 112, but I know there have been fewer no-shows than that. I think it's something between 10-20.

It was 46 for the 1986 Seahawk game

[terry251973]

come on guys dont get violent.my question is how on earth does a patriot fan get a ticket to a denver playoff game?i have always heard that the games are always ellouts mainly.how can a patriot fan get a ticket before a bronco fan unless he lives in denver which i doubt.

[Bronx33]

come on guys dont get violent.my question is how on earth does a patriot fan get a ticket to a denver playoff game?i have always heard that the games are always ellouts mainly.how can a patriot fan get a ticket before a bronco fan unless he lives in denver which i doubt.


ebay

[24champ]

come on guys dont get violent.my question is how on earth does a patriot fan get a ticket to a denver playoff game?i have always heard that the games are always ellouts mainly.how can a patriot fan get a ticket before a bronco fan unless he lives in denver which i doubt.
they get em from scalpers.

[Hercules Rockefeller]

Ticketmaster

[Atlas]

.how can a patriot fan get a ticket before a bronco fan unless he lives in denver which i doubt.

They pay an extremely high price for it only to watch their team lose.

http://cgi.ebay.com/4-New-England-Patriot-vs-Denver-Bronco-Tickets_W0QQitemZ6595699824QQcategoryZ16122QQssPag eNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

[BigRedChief]

Sorry TJ to bust your bubble but the Pats are going to take you down.

Bellicheck will have a game plan to make Jake the snake revert to his old bone headed self and if not stop, slow down your teams running attack.

[Hulamau]

I hope that Plummer heaves the ball as far as he can downfield on the first play from scrimmage to loosen up everybody's hinges...... settle the nerves.... fire up the crowd...... loosen up the running lanes.

Where is Ricky Nattiel?

And Ash catches it for an 80 yrd TD!

[Dizlexus]

Unfortunately, I'm not going to make it.

I think it might be the biggest mistake of my life to miss it, but duty calls.
Only play off game I saw was THE one vs JAX -- sometimes it is best not to go to keep the mojo right

[24champ]

Sorry TJ to bust your bubble but the Pats are going to take you down.

Bellicheck will have a game plan to make Jake the snake revert to his old bone headed self and if not stop, slow down your teams running attack.
keep eating those potato chips buddy.:thumbsup:

[wabbit]

Sorry TJ to bust your bubble but the Pats are going to take you down.

Bellicheck will have a game plan to make Jake the snake revert to his old bone headed self and if not stop, slow down your teams running attack.

Have faith folks

The last grand prediction from this....individual...was:

"I'll say it now: The Donks will not sweep the Raiders..."

Next up: inter-dimensional travel where; in one of three thousand universes the Chiefs actually win something

[Bronx33]

Sorry TJ to bust your bubble but the Pats are going to take you down.

Bellicheck will have a game plan to make Jake the snake revert to his old bone headed self and if not stop, slow down your teams running attack.


Heard you got new golf clubs (what kind are they)

[BroncoFanDoug]

Sorry TJ to bust your bubble but the Pats are going to take you down.

Bellicheck will have a game plan to make Jake the snake revert to his old bone headed self and if not stop, slow down your teams running attack.

Isn't there some figure skating on ESPN99 to keep chef trolls busy through the playoffs? Is hating the Broncs all you have left (probably!).

Bitterness is SUCH an ugly thing :). By the way, if the patsies win it only makes the chefs look like a more pathetic team - unable to win a mediocre division...

[SoCalBronco]

Sorry TJ to bust your bubble but the Pats are going to take you down.

Bellicheck will have a game plan to make Jake the snake revert to his old bone headed self and if not stop, slow down your teams running attack.

Go snort another pint of BBQ sauce.

[sirhcyennek81]

Yes...because mike shanahan has shown himself to be inept at playcalling, or game planning. Apparently, no one knew how to game plan until bellechek was hatched.

:Broncos:

[Vegas_Bronco]

I can't wait, NE played sloppy shiaat football in the whole first half last week and, of course, still thinks they are good enough to beat Denver. Tell you Pantsy's what- bring that same attitude and gameplan in to town this week and we'll roll all over your azz.

Note to Steeler and Patsy Fan: San Diego would have been the better choice to represent the AFC.

[Odysseus]

Why dont you come tell me in sec 126 row 16 seats 5 and 6.

Step up Bigmouth

You want to fight? Come to Iraq. You don't impress me at all with your tough guy routine. You want to be somebody? Pass around the beers to the fans who paid for the stadium in which we've provided and enjoy the comraderie of people. It's football game moron. Have you lost your frigging mind?

[DomCasual]

The disrespect we are getting is driving me nuts
I couldn't care less about the disrespect. At the end of the day, respect and a few bucks will buy you a cup of coffee. Just remember '97-'98. We got no respect because we deserved no respect. We had lost to Jacksonville the previous year in the playoffs, and we had looked like crap down the stretch to end the season. All that turned into was eighteen straight wins and two Lombardi Trophies.

[Vegas_Bronco]

I love the boob term - 'we get no respect!'. Respect is gained by not being perfect (it's too impossible) but acheiving and practicing next to perfect and no one has done this better than NE over the past few years. Let's all quit with the 'we get no respect whining' - if anyone deserves respect, it is NE, they have been an amazing team over the past years. They just don't know it's time to pass the torch back to the Orange and Blue.

[TheChamp24]

I swear to God if I see a decent amount of Patriot fans I'm going to go crazy. I can't wait for this game, like I've said for 4-5 years now, just give this beautiful stadium a home playoff game. You want loud? We'll show you loud. I've only been to the San Diego game and that game was proof to me that there seems to be some magic back in the air.

[BroncoBuff]

Originally Posted by BroncoBuff1

Eat crow ? . . . Disrepect ? !

Denver is favored by 3 1/2! (I read in another thread anyway).

You want disrespect? How about this: I BLEED ORANGE, and yet my money is on New England!

EHHHHHH?????
That's Broncobluff for ya
I'm not sure what part you don't understand, but I'll dumb it down a bit:

When I wrote "I BLEED ORANGE", it means I am a Broncos fan. But even though I am a Broncos fan, I still believe Denver being favored by 3 1/2 points is TOO NICE. I'd say the line should be EVEN, and if forced to bet I would take the Patriots and the points.

The complainers I was taking a shot at are the same old-Denver cow-town thinking folks who believe "our beloved Broncos" are being dissed by 'them big city reporters!' ... Can you believe Hah'rd Cosell and his New York City friends kept the Broncos outta the Monday Night Football halftime highlights AGAIN?! Let's make Denver well-known for throwing bricks at a TV with Hah'rd Cosell on it!! YEE-HAW!!

Now do you get it?

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

This is going to be the longest week of my life....LET'S KICK SOME PATROIT ASS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

F_ckin' A, baby!

:smashpats :gobroncos :smashpats :gobroncos

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

I'll be in 126 row 16 seats 5 and 6. I'll have Pats gear on.

Like I said STEP UP

rofl

Just the sort of information you want to share with every Broncos fan in America.

I'll bet a guy like you gets more invitations to join MENSA than he can shake a stick at.

:laugh:

[Old Dude]

I swear to God if I see a decent amount of Patriot fans I'm going to go crazy. I can't wait for this game, like I've said for 4-5 years now, just give this beautiful stadium a home playoff game. You want loud? We'll show you loud. I've only been to the San Diego game and that game was proof to me that there seems to be some magic back in the air.

I was at the Pats game in October and yelled so loud that I was hoarse for three days.

Of the dozen people around me, there was one other guy making noise on a consistent basis. Two were making occassional cheers. At least six people just sat on their duffs, drinking their lattes and snacking on their quiche.

And the other three guys were Pats fans.

We need to do a whole lot better folks.

[BroncoBuff]

HEY BOB!

They're looking for you around here! Somebody said you're banned for 1 month?

PM me - or rep me w/ reply
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[OrangeShadow]

im so pumped and its only tuesday!!!!(and im not even going)

[Lidderer]

I'm not sure what part you don't understand, but I'll dumb it down a bit:

When I wrote "I BLEED ORANGE", it means I am a Broncos fan. But even though I am a Broncos fan, I still believe Denver being favored by 3 1/2 points is TOO NICE. I'd say the line should be EVEN, and if forced to bet I would take the Patriots and the points.

The complainers I was taking a shot at are the same old-Denver cow-town thinking folks who believe "our beloved Broncos" are being dissed by 'them big city reporters!' ... Can you believe Hah'rd Cosell and his New York City friends kept the Broncos outta the Monday Night Football halftime highlights AGAIN?! Let's make Denver well-known for throwing bricks at a TV with Hah'rd Cosell on it!! YEE-HAW!!

Now do you get it?

Everyone understood what you were saying, Buff, it's just that the post seemed like the utterances of a fairweather fan, even more so because you failed to support the claim with much of anything besides "i like denver but think NE will win....CAN YOU BELIEVE THAT? PROOF!"

I am, however, grateful for learning how to type 'hah'rd' now; was always more of a 'hae'rd' guy, but now i see you're right.

[Rock Chalk]

I cant wait until Bruschi picks off Plummer and the whole house of cards begins to topple.
Yeah? I bet even if the Pats do pick off Plummer the "house of cards" does not topple.

We win ball games, in much the same fashion as New ENgland has these past four years.

The fact that you twits seem to think you have a realistic shot at winning is comical at best and just ignorant at worst.

[TailgateNut]

I'll be in 126 row 16 seats 5 and 6. I'll have Pats gear on.

Like I said STEP UP

Damn you must be one Giant Guy to need 2 seats for your fat ass!

[GonzoLays]

I'm doing my part; I changed my sig for the game. Thats how big this game is. It is going to be huuuuuuuge.

[McDortoh]

someone gotta make a sign at the game "show some damn respect, ESPIN!"

That would be even better :thumbs:

[McDortoh]

Is there any way to pass along the idea to the Broncos to show the video clip on the Jumbo Tron of Brady's press conference last week were he said "we're the most disrespected team in the league"... ?

Imagine a 3rd or 4th down... they play that... not that the crowd already won't be nuts... but that would just put them over the top...

That would be awesome :thumbsup:

[McDortoh]

Damn you must be one Giant Guy to need 2 seats for your fat ass!

I doubt thats the case. I imagine his boyfriend will be using the other seat.

[OrangeShadow]

Damn you must be one Giant Guy to need 2 seats for your fat ass!

rofl

[DaveTV]

I see a lot of nervous Broncos fans here.. http://www.arcticchat.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/surrender.gif

[McDortoh]

I see a lot of nervous Broncos fans here.. http://www.arcticchat.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/surrender.gif

You've prolly just got Brady juice in your eye Ha!

[BroncoFanDoug]

HEY BOB!

They're looking for you around here! Somebody said you're banned for 1 month?

PM me - or rep me w/ reply
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Did not see that Bob is banned, but if Bob can't write I would be VERY surprised that he is still reading.

[footstepsfrom#27]

I've been on the bandwagon for 35 years Nummy.
Wow. You've seen a lot of Patriots losses to Denver...that's for sure. The Broncos have totally dominated New England for years, 13-4 in that 35 years...which explains why you're here putting on the brave face.

You fear Denver.

[Master___Pain]

Im glad we have quality Pats fans like Crow and Patswin. Some of these other , uh, fans are just brutal.

Crowpointer announces how he will cheer for his team but does not want to get a beer thrown on him. Probably the right way to behave as a visiting fan....

on the flip side of that....

Patriot Reign gets internet tough guy on us and then announces his seats numbers. Good call. I now know what seats to refer Denver PD to escort his fight starting ass out of Mile High. What a dip.

[PatsWin2002]

This board has been nuts and it's impossible to keep up. You can feel the electricity.

But can you imagine if this is what we were relegated to talking about instead? :egbgb:
http://www.finheaven.com/boardvb2/showthread.php?t=118319

[footstepsfrom#27]

Im glad we have quality Pats fans like Crow and Patswin. Some of these other , uh, fans are just brutal.

Crowpointer announces how he will cheer for his team but does not want to get a beer thrown on him. Probably the right way to behave as a visiting fan....

on the flip side of that....

Patriot Reign gets internet tough guy on us and then announces his seats numbers. Good call. I now know what seats to refer Denver PD to escort his fight starting ass out of Mile High. What a dip.
I'm pretty sure Internet Tough Guy is giving out some random seat numbers. Nobody's that stupid...are they?

[Master___Pain]

I'm pretty sure Internet Tough Guy is giving out some random seat numbers. Nobody's that stupid...are they?

I think that's a rhetorical question....

[sonsofkraftybob]

Note to Steeler and Patsy Fan: San Diego would have been the better choice to represent the AFC.

Says the fan of the team that was outscored 90-31 the past 2 years in the playoffs.....To the fans of the team that won Lombardi's the last 2 years. LOL!

[Mile High Shack]

Says the fan of the team that was outscored 90-31 the past 2 years in the playoffs.....To the fans of the team that won Lombardi's the last 2 years. LOL!

and that is relevant to this year how?

I mean hell, since we are bringing up the past

can we bring up our back to back championships too?

[scorpio]

Says the fan of the team that was outscored 90-31 the past 2 years in the playoffs.....To the fans of the team that won Lombardi's the last 2 years. LOL!
Do you drive a VW bus and watch I Love Lucy every day? Have a harvest gold whirlpool refrigerator and a reel-to-reel stereo system? You know, because you seem a little stuck in the past...

[footstepsfrom#27]

Says the fan of the team that was outscored 90-31 the past 2 years in the playoffs.....To the fans of the team that won Lombardi's the last 2 years. LOL!
We've had your number for a long time and always give you trouble. 13-4 against the Pats since 1970...and I live in Dallas where they own 5 Lombardis.

You have a ways to go to impress me.

[sonsofkraftybob]

and that is relevant to this year how?

I mean hell, since we are bringing up the past

can we bring up our back to back championships too?

It's the same teams bro. Nothing has changed. Don't fool yourself. It's less than a year removed. But whatever stops the fear....use it.

[McDortoh]

It's the same teams bro. Nothing has changed. Don't fool yourself. It's less than a year removed. But whatever stops the fear....use it.

Sorry but this statement just screams "I watch Espin for all my news and highlights"

[Mile High Shack]

It's the same teams bro. Nothing has changed. Don't fool yourself. It's less than a year removed. But whatever stops the fear....use it.

so if it's the same team

can we thus use the defeat of the messiah's to the lowly Broncos earlier this year since it's the same team?

or is that not relavent either?

(ps, if it's the same team as last year, then I must be stupid, b/c I could've sworn you had a running game last year and this year you don't ;))

[sonsofkraftybob]

Sorry but this statement just screams "I watch Espin for all my news and highlights"

Sorry, but it is the same team. Same players minus Phifer and Ted Johnson.

Except we have Seymour for this run as he was hurt for the playoffs last year.

Same team dude. Sorry to scare you.

[Mile High Shack]

Sorry, but it is the same team. Same players minus Phifer and Ted Johnson.

Except we have Seymour for this run as he was hurt for the playoffs last year.

Same team dude. Sorry to scare you.

Phifer and Johnson are much better LBs than Colvin and Vrabel and Bruschigod is nowhere near 100%

and like I said, your running game was good last year, this year it sucks

your oline was good last year, this year it's banged up and full of 2nd stringers

so keep thinking you are the same team

[footstepsfrom#27]

It's the same teams bro. Nothing has changed. Don't fool yourself. It's less than a year removed. But whatever stops the fear....use it.
Actually it isn't the same team...not even close in fact. This year's Bronco team is considerably stronger on defense, especially in the D-line and at CB. It's almost never the same team year to year.

[footstepsfrom#27]

Sorry, but it is the same team. Same players minus Phifer and Ted Johnson.

Except we have Seymour for this run as he was hurt for the playoffs last year.

Same team dude. Sorry to scare you.
If you're referring to New England not Denver...it's also not the same. You're running game was much stronger last year.

[sonsofkraftybob]

so if it's the same team

can we thus use the defeat of the messiah's to the lowly Broncos earlier this year since it's the same team?

or is that not relavent either?

(ps, if it's the same team as last year, then I must be stupid, b/c I could've sworn you had a running game last year and this year you don't ;))

We tweak the team during the regular season. You know, when the games mean LESS. Thats why went from 26th against the rush in the first half.....to 1st against the rush in the second half. BTW, you guys are a rushing team.

Come postseason.....it's on like donkey kong.

The rushing game is the same....just the stats are down. But the passing stats are up.

Same team. Same outcome when all is said and done.

[errand]

But Romo does

Romo wipes his tears with 5 SB rings......

[McDortoh]

Harrison nuff said

[Mile High Shack]

We tweak the team during the regular season. You know, when the games mean LESS. Thats why went from 26th against the rush in the first half.....to 1st against the rush in the second half. BTW, you guys are a rushing team.

Come postseason.....it's on like donkey kong.

The rushing game is the same....just the stats are down. But the passing stats are up.

Same team. Same outcome when all is said and done.

You are right...Broncos won earlier this year

[errand]

Eat crow ? . . . Disrepect ? !

Denver is favored by 3 1/2! (I read in another thread anyway).

You want disrespect? How about this: I BLEED ORANGE, and yet my money is on New England.

You sound like a leading Democrat discussing the troops in Iraq.

[errand]

how can a patriot fan get a ticket before a bronco fan unless he lives in denver which i doubt.

...maybe they're BroncoBuff's tickets?

[McDortoh]

Different coachs also......now enough said ;D

[sonsofkraftybob]

You are right...Broncos won earlier this year

Ask Pittsburgh what their regular season win did for them last year? When it was win or go home, the Pats walked into their house and spanked them like a red headed step child 41-20.

Either way, when you are sitting on your barcalounger, jaw dropped to the floor, tear in your eye, muttering to yourself and your Gerbil Hank, "The Pats didn't miss a step". And your Gerbil says "huh?" And you reply, "The Pats didn't skip a beat."

Just remember sonsofkraftybob warned you.

[errand]

keep eating those potato chips buddy.:thumbsup:


....don't you mean paint chips?

[Bronx33]

Ask Pittsburgh what their regular season win did for them last year? When it was win or go home, the Pats walked into their house and spanked them like a red headed step child 41-20.

Either way, when you are sitting on your barcalounger, jaw dropped to the floor, tear in your eye, muttering to yourself and your Gerbil Hank, "The Pats didn't miss a step". And your Gerbil says "huh?" And you reply, "The Pats didn't skip a beat."

Just remember sonsofkraftybob warned you.

You have talking gerbils in NE?

[Bronx33]

....don't you mean LEAD paint chips?


Fixed.....

[Mile High Shack]

Ask Pittsburgh what their regular season win did for them last year? When it was win or go home, the Pats walked into their house and spanked them like a red headed step child 41-20.

Either way, when you are sitting on your barcalounger, jaw dropped to the floor, tear in your eye, muttering to yourself and your Gerbil Hank, "The Pats didn't miss a step". And your Gerbil says "huh?" And you reply, "The Pats didn't skip a beat."

Just remember sonsofkraftybob warned you.

Bill Cowher

'nuff said about that

dude chokes more than a rookie porn star gettin' a facial from Ron Jeremy

I really hope you think Shanny is just as bad of a coach in the playoffs as Cowher

[footstepsfrom#27]

Ask Pittsburgh what their regular season win did for them last year? When it was win or go home, the Pats walked into their house and spanked them like a red headed step child 41-20.

Either way, when you are sitting on your barcalounger, jaw dropped to the floor, tear in your eye, muttering to yourself and your Gerbil Hank, "The Pats didn't miss a step". And your Gerbil says "huh?" And you reply, "The Pats didn't skip a beat."

Just remember sonsofkraftybob warned you.
I think "sonsofkraftybob" is really sons of krafty "bob"...back from his banning.

The fact is Denver owns the Patsies. We've whipped your tails for years and years, total domination...and we own a couple of Lombardis as well so get over yourself. When you get to 5 like the Cowboys, come back here and we'll all bow down and kiss your rings...till then you might wish to notice the history of NFL franchises over the long haul...nobody stays on top forever, including you.

[davdog]

You have talking gerbils in NE?


sure they have to tell you when it's time to take them out.


Run little lemmy.................

[Bronx33]

sure they have to tell you when it's time to take them out.


Run little lemmy.................


That's enough personal info thank you very much.......

[errand]

Pats do have the number one rush D over the last half of the season....in fact if memory serves me right, Tatum Bell was the last guy to get 100 yards on them.......good thing they won't see him again, huh?

[Taco John]

Originally Posted by BroncoBuff1
When I wrote "I BLEED ORANGE", it means I am a Broncos fan. But even though I am a Broncos fan, I still believe Denver being favored by 3 1/2 points is TOO NICE. I'd say the line should be EVEN, and if forced to bet I would take the Patriots and the points.




I can't wait to stuff heaping piles of crow down your throat. I've never read weaker analysis from a supposed Broncos fan ever. Denver being favored at home against a team that Shanahan has already gameplanned for once this season? Are you kidding? And you're telling me that the standard homefield line is too nice?

You're a clown.

[Taco John]

Bill Cowher

'nuff said about that

dude chokes more than a rookie porn star gettin' a facial from Ron Jeremy

I really hope you think Shanny is just as bad of a coach in the playoffs as Cowher



Man, you watch too much porn.

[sonsofkraftybob]

I think "sonsofkraftybob" is really sons of krafty "bob"...back from his banning.

.

Yeah, I heard that before.....but I have accounts on every board and most posters remember me? So how could it be that a poster actually got banned on his home board? I mean, I am a professional troll and have only been banned once, Pittsburgh's "official" board....and that was making that unforgivable error of posting Cowhers Home Playoff record.

[sonsofkraftybob]

You have talking gerbils in NE?

You mean you don't? Maybe they are speaking German and you just don't understand.....sound like a job for Karl Mecklinburgh to be.

[Spider]

Bill Cowher

'nuff said about that

dude chokes more than a rookie porn star gettin' a facial from Ron Jeremy

I really hope you think Shanny is just as bad of a coach in the playoffs as Cowher
:~ohyah!: Shack busting out with porn smack .........some one rep this guy

[OrangeShadow]

Thats why went from 26th against the rush in the first half.....to 1st against the rush in the second half. BTW, you guys are a rushing team.


What you fail to mention is every team you played in the second half had a well below average passing game. Obviously with those teams you knew they would be forced to run often because their passing games were so sub par. So your herald improved run defense is a tad bloated.

[Bronx33]

You mean you don't? Maybe they are speaking German and you just don't understand.....sound like a job for Karl Mecklinburgh to be.


Wow after the chop blocking post i didn't think you could get any worse, sorry to say i was wrong.

[Bronx33]

What you fail to mention is every team you played in the second half had a well below average passing game. Obviously with those teams you knew they would be forced to run often because their passing games were so sub par. So your herald improved run defense is a tad bloated.

The chowders like to over look that little fact shadow.

[sonsofkraftybob]

When you get to 5 like the Cowboys, come back here and we'll all bow down and kiss your rings...till then you might wish to notice the history of NFL franchises over the long haul...nobody stays on top forever, including you.

Spoken like a tried and true Charger fan. But seriously you could live without me till 2007 when we get our 5th?

[sonsofkraftybob]

What you fail to mention is every team you played in the second half had a well below average passing game. Obviously with those teams you knew they would be forced to run often because their passing games were so sub par. So your herald improved run defense is a tad bloated.

Yeah sure it is. 1st is 1st.

trust me bro. Jake the mistake doesn't bring back memories of Air Coryal.

[Master___Pain]

You mean you don't? Maybe they are speaking German and you just don't understand.....sound like a job for Karl Mecklinburgh to be.

It's Mecklenburg..if we can spell Brewski right, please spell Mecklenburg right.

[Elway 4 Life]

Yeah sure it is. 1st is 1st.

trust me bro. Jake the mistake doesn't bring back memories of Air Coryal.

1st?

[Master___Pain]

Jake the mistake doesn't bring back memories of Air Coryal.

Nor should he, but to dismiss Plummer is something the Pats coaching staff is certainly NOT doing.

[sonsofkraftybob]

It's Mecklenburg..if we can spell Brewski right, please spell Mecklenburg right.

You got me. I chuckled.

[PatriotReign37]

Yeah? I bet even if the Pats do pick off Plummer the "house of cards" does not topple.

We win ball games, in much the same fashion as New ENgland has these past four years.

The fact that you twits seem to think you have a realistic shot at winning is comical at best and just ignorant at worst.

Stone cold Bronco win huh?

We will see who will be eating Crow.

[sonsofkraftybob]

1st?

Second half of the season. 1st against the rush. It takes a team some time to Jell. But them there are the facts. from week 7 till now....the pats have absolutely shut down the run. Seymour is a pretty good player....he has a bright future.

[Bronx33]

Second half of the season. 1st against the rush. It takes a team some time to Jell. But them there are the facts. from week 7 till now....the pats have absolutely shut down the run. Seymour is a pretty good player....he has a bright future.

WHO HAVE YOU PLAYED SINCE WEEK 7???

[sonsofkraftybob]

Nor should he, but to dismiss Plummer is something the Pats coaching staff is certainly NOT doing.

I ain't dismissing him. he is what he is. an average QB who can't win it on his own but could certainly lose it on his own.

[Elway 4 Life]

Second half of the season. 1st against the rush. It takes a team some time to Jell. But them there are the facts. from week 7 till now....the pats have absolutely shut down the run. Seymour is a pretty good player....he has a bright future.
We have been consistent against the run all year and didnt have a cupcake second half schedule like you. I agree that seymour is good when heathy which isnt very often. We shall see how good this run defense is when you face the best rushing offense in football.

[sonsofkraftybob]

WHO HAVE YOU PLAYED SINCE WEEK 7???

Tampa Bay rushes pretty good.

Willis Mcgahee is a good rusher.

All Miami does is run the ball......but you guys know that huh?

Larry Johnson.

Jacksonville.

Does it matter? You think your rushing attack is unstoppable?

[Master___Pain]

I ain't dismissing him. he is what he is. an average QB who can't win it on his own but could certainly lose it on his own.

Average is way too harsh. While Plummer has been mistake prone in the past, he has been excellent this season, and the playoff losses these last two years have hardly been Plummers fault. Plummer is a top 8 NFL QB right now, if not higher.

[PatsWin2002]

We have been consistent against the run all year and didnt have a cupcake second half schedule like you. I agree that seymour is good when heathy which isnt very often. We shall see how good this run defense is when you face the best rushing offense in football.

Correction: Seymour is GREAT when healthy...and lucky for us he is right now.

[Elway 4 Life]

I ain't dismissing him. he is what he is. an average QB who can't win it on his own but could certainly lose it on his own.

How many has brady won on his own? Absolutely freaking none!

[OrangeShadow]

Yeah sure it is. 1st is 1st.


In new englands last 10 games of the season the faced 3 teams with passing offenses ranked in the top 15. Indianapolis (no. 3), Kansas City (no. 6), New Orleans (no. 14). Every other opponent they faced ranked outside the top 15. So how impressive does the so called "turn around" look now?

[sonsofkraftybob]

We have been consistent against the run all year and didnt have a cupcake second half schedule like you. I agree that seymour is good when heathy which isnt very often. We shall see how good this run defense is when you face the best rushing offense in football.

We did face them. Kicked their ass in the Georgia Dome. Oh my bad....you thought the Bronco's were the #1 rushing team in the NFL.

[Elway 4 Life]

Correction: Seymour is GREAT when healthy...and lucky for us he is right now.

Great?? I wouldnt go that far but he is good.

[sonsofkraftybob]

How many has brady won on his own? Absolutely freaking none!

But see, he doesn't lose it on his own. That there chumley...is the difference between Great and average.

[sonsofkraftybob]

Great?? I wouldnt go that far but he is good.

You lost all credibility by 1st. Thinking that the Bronco's not the Falcons had the #1 rushing offense.

and 2 not knowing that Seymour is by far and away the best defensive lineman in all of football on this planet or any other.

[OrangeShadow]

Tampa Bay rushes pretty good.

Willis Mcgahee is a good rusher.

All Miami does is run the ball......but you guys know that huh?

Larry Johnson.

Jacksonville.

Does it matter? You think your rushing attack is unstoppable?

Tampa- no passing game
Buffalo- no offensive line or passing game
KC- you gave up 119 yards to LJ
Jax-no passing game

[PatsWin2002]

Great?? I wouldnt go that far but he is good.

I think most of your own fans would even disagree with you. Seymour is one of the top run-stoppers in the game.

[Elway 4 Life]

We did face them. Kicked their ass in the Georgia Dome. Oh my bad....you thought the Bronco's were the #1 rushing team in the NFL.

We are the #1 rushing team in the Playoffs and 2nd in the NFL. Atlanta is at home and they dont really count because they have to run because Vick cant throw the rock.

[sonsofkraftybob]

KC- you gave up 119 yards to LJ


That is actually not bad. See, he was on pace to rush for over 2,400 yards for a 16 game season.

[terry251973]

WHO HAVE YOU PLAYED SINCE WEEK 7???
Week 7?Hell who have they played all year or even beaten?

[sonsofkraftybob]

We are the #1 rushing team in the Playoffs and 2nd in the NFL. Atlanta is at home and they dont really count because they have to run because Vick cant throw the rock.

Sure, change the rules as you go. Now it's #1 in the playoffs. Whatever. You are so owned.

Tell me again how Seymour is "average".

[sonsofkraftybob]

Week 7?Hell who have they played all year or even beaten?

Out of the teams remaining in the AFC...how many have YOU beaten?

We beat 1 of them.

[terry251973]

You lost all credibility by 1st. Thinking that the Bronco's not the Falcons had the #1 rushing offense.

and 2 not knowing that Seymour is by far and away the best defensive lineman in all of football on this planet or any other.
The broncos do have the number 1 rushing offense because atlanta ass is sitting at home.:giggle:

[Bronx33]

Tampa Bay rushes pretty good.

Willis Mcgahee is a good rusher.

All Miami does is run the ball......but you guys know that huh?

Larry Johnson.

Jacksonville.

Does it matter? You think your rushing attack is unstoppable?

I didn't say it was you did my point is your team turned it around on some bottom feeders and now you think your world beaters IMO your team hasn't been tested for 7 weeks.

[OrangeShadow]

Out of the teams remaining in the AFC...how many have YOU beaten?

We beat 1 of them.

same amount as you smartass

[Bronx33]

Week 7?Hell who have they played all year or even beaten?


True but when you ask that question they blame it on injuries.

[Elway 4 Life]

You lost all credibility by 1st. Thinking that the Bronco's not the Falcons had the #1 rushing offense.

and 2 not knowing that Seymour is by far and away the best defensive lineman in all of football on this planet or any other.

And there goes your credibility!

[terry251973]

Out of the teams remaining in the AFC...how many have YOU beaten?

We beat 1 of them.
If you are talking about the pittsburgh steelers im sure we all know why they are going to indiannapolis and it sure isnt cause they are better than cincinnati.Lets see brady get his knee shredded and see how many games the pats win.

[PatsWin2002]

Hey - if Denver wins the SB will all the Fin Fans say "Yeah, we beat them. We were really the best team, but it just wasn't our year." Ha!

[Elway 4 Life]

Sure, change the rules as you go. Now it's #1 in the playoffs. Whatever. You are so owned.

Tell me again how Seymour is "average".

Your a moron! Never said average said good. Open your eyes jackass.

[terry251973]

I didn't say it was you did my point is your team turned it around on some bottom feeders and now you think your world beaters IMO your team hasn't been tested for 7 weeks.
Hey its not his fault.Hes just been watching tv too much and believing everything the damn media says.They had a survey on cold pizza earlier picking who would win the divisional games and they had new england and the steelers winning like 65% to 35%.it was only like 42,000 fans voting nationwide and from them results you can tell they were mostly all pats fans.They are scared of the colts so much they have to talk chit about our broncos to calm their fears.

[Rohirrim]

I agree, Seymour is a force. The thing that has most impressed me this year about the Broncos is the Oline. During preseason I thought that they were the biggest question mark. They have become, over sixteen weeks, the biggest strength. My hat is off to Rick Dennison who is about ten times better of a coach than I ever thought he would be, after Gibbs left. I just hope the rest of the league is ignoring him and he stays here for years. Hat's off also to Nalen, one of the best centers in the NFL, certainly up there with Saturday, and having one of the best years he's ever had. I'm not really worried about Seymour. He'll be part of the game-plan, no doubt. ;D

[Traveler]

Stone cold Bronco win huh?

We will see who will be eating Crow.

Will you come back to this board and give the Broncos their due on Saturday night?

[Antilles]

Originally Posted by sonsofkraftybob
Out of the teams remaining in the AFC...how many have YOU beaten?

We beat 1 of them.


same amount as you smartass

hahahaha! I can't in good conscience let this little exchange go unnoticed!

[Master___Pain]

hahahaha how did this get missed?

Yeah, no kidding. That was kinda brushed over, no?

[sonsofkraftybob]

I didn't say it was you did my point is your team turned it around on some bottom feeders and now you think your world beaters IMO your team hasn't been tested for 7 weeks.

That's a fair assesment. We play the schedule they give us bro. The 1st half was tough and we went 3-3. The second half was ice cream.

And yes, I do believe the Pats are world beaters. They are World Champs for a reason...cuz they beat the world. They are also one of the the top 4 teams left in the conference so why wouldn't I think they will win some more?

[Mile High Shack]

Man, you watch too much porn.

(in yoda voice)

married 11 years with infant daughter, you watch as less as me, no?

[Rohirrim]

Psychologically speaking, the one thing the Pats have to overcome is complacency. They have three rings, three Lombardis. It's why three-peats are so tough. Do you have a compelling reason to get out there on the field and fight to your last breath for another championship? If we are to judge the Broncos psyche by Al Wilson, there's a mean and nasty hunger there. Can the Pats still stoke up the fire? I know a few players can (Brewski, Brady, etc.) But will everybody else? That hunger is tough to beat.

[sonsofkraftybob]

True but when you ask that question they blame it on injuries.

Not true. In fact it's the opposite. Let me cut and paste for you lest you confuse me with someone else.......Notice the bolded items. Here is the link.

http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showthread.php?t=32099

"You guys played a heck of a game. Your team looks complete this year. Great ground game; decent air attack; solid defense.

The Bronco's won this game. There will no excuses from me. Only Steeler fans use injuries as an excuse. The other 31 teams know that they are to expected and overcome somehow.
The Pats showed a little spunk in the 2nd half and hopefully we can lick our wounds the next 2 weeks and get some bodies back healthy.....play Buff and Indy @ home and then the schedule eases up for us. The AFC East is our for the taking if we want it so I have a feeling that maybe, just maybe the Pats will be back to the almost mile high City of Denver for a win or go home game."

[Bronx33]

Not true. In fact it's the opposite. Let me cut and paste for you lest you confuse me with someone else.......Notice the bolded items. Here is the link.

http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showthread.php?t=32099

"You guys played a heck of a game. Your team looks complete this year. Great ground game; decent air attack; solid defense.

The Bronco's won this game. There will no excuses from me. Only Steeler fans use injuries as an excuse. The other 31 teams know that they are to expected and overcome somehow.
The Pats showed a little spunk in the 2nd half and hopefully we can lick our wounds the next 2 weeks and get some bodies back healthy.....play Buff and Indy @ home and then the schedule eases up for us. The AFC East is our for the taking if we want it so I have a feeling that maybe, just maybe the Pats will be back to the almost mile high City of Denver for a win or go home game."

I wasn't referring to you...

[BostonIrish]

True but when you ask that question they blame it on injuries.

I'd actually blame who they played on the schedule maker.

[sonsofkraftybob]

I wasn't referring to you...

My bad. Carry on then.

[Bronx33]

I'd actually blame who they played on the schedule maker.

The same one that made the colts schedule no doubt! :~ohyah!:

[Kaylore]

The same one that made the colts schedule no doubt! :~ohyah!:
The Colts Schedule? Ugh. Here's what their schedule was like:

http://www.richmaltese.com/files/happy_maltese_puppies_for_sale.jpg

[Old Dude]

Titans, Texans & Jags:

http://www.nwpphotoforum.com/ubbthreads/JM_Pieces/kphillips/threebunnies_w.jpg

[footstepsfrom#27]

And yes, I do believe the Pats are world beaters. They are World Champs for a reason...cuz they beat the world. They are also one of the the top 4 teams left in the conference so why wouldn't I think they will win some more?
I think what sonofbobkraft fails to reallize with all this high and mighty talk about how many rings his Patsies have is that when you go to other teams boards who have never won anything...like the Saints or Bills or Jags...they find that impressive and intimidating. But when you go someplace where they have also won more than one Superbowl and played in 6...especially when that team has basically OWNED you like a prison yard girlfriend for the entire length of your franchise...well we just don't feel like falling down and quaking in fear. I did a little checking on some things:

These are the QB ratings of the Pats opposition QB's in the games against them since week 9 of the regular season when they began their run followed by the number of rushing yards these teams posted against the Patriots:

Week 9 Peyton Manning/117.1, 132 yards rushing
Week 10 Gus Frerotte/83.6, 77 yards rushing
Week 11 Aaron Brooks/80.7, 87 yards rushing
Week 12 Trent Green/127.6, 112 yards rushing
Week 13 Brian Bollinger/39.8, 41 yards rushing
Week 14 JP Losman/33.3, 14 yards rushing
Week 15 Simms/72.5, 30 yards rushing
Week 16 Bollinger/67.9, 40 yards rushing
Week 17 Leftwhich/61.1, 87 yards rushing

You will notice a direct correlation between having an effective passing threat and gaining yardage on the ground. Peyton Manning posted a 117 rating and the Colts ran for 132...Trent Green had a 127 and the Chiefs managed 112...both games the Pats lost...conversely, the team's whose QB had a misserable game...Losman for example with a 33.3...those teams didn't run the ball well (14 yards for Buff)

So I decided to look at Jake's QB rating at Invesco to see what we can expect from him at home. Plummer averages 96.3 at home and 90.2 overall. To further break it down, Plummer posted a 134.4 against the Patriots last time around. Then I decided to see how Jake stacks up in situational game stats: http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/1003/splits/2005

1) Suprisingly, Jake is best either when backed up on his own goal line or when inside the opponents Red Zone with a 96.8 and 87.4 QB rating respectively...both very respectable.

2) Equally suprising, Plummer is quite effective when he throws a lot of passes. Jake's QB rating throwing more than 31 passes is 84.5, 2nd only to his 110.5 in his first 10 passes of the game. In other words Jake is best early and late in the games he's played this year.

3) Plummer is best on 1st down, with a 100.8 QB rating, and not very good on 3rd down...77.3...not to suprising since all NFL QBs will probably fare better throwing on 1st down instead of 3rd.

4) Not suprisingly, Jake is best when he's ahead, with a 105.6 rating when ahead 1-8 points...and a 71.9 when behind by more than 16...more on this in a moment...

What about Brady? I decided to look at Brady's QB rating against the stronger teams he's faced. Overall Brady has a 92.3 passer rating...pretty good, but only 2 points better than Jake's. But look closer at the games he played against good and bad defenses:

TEAM/ RANK/ QB RATING

Atlanta 21st 140.4
Buffalo 28th 102.9
Carolina 3rd 69.3
Denver 15th 79.9
Indianapolis 11th 121.4
Kansas City 25th 42.5
Miami 18th 71.4
New Orleans 14th 111.6
NY Jets 12th 91.5
Oakland 27th 105.8
Pittsburgh 4th 92.7
San Diego 13th 78.1
Tampa Bay 1st 122.8

Statistics can be used to prove a lot of stuff that's deceptive when isolated from their context but in this case it's interesting that Brady's best games came against Atlanta, Indy, New Orleans, Oakland and Tampa Bay. Of this group only Tampa Bay has a legitimately tough defense. Indy is ranked higher than they should be because much of their success is due to teams being 3 TD's down and having to abandon the running game, and in this game they were so far ahead they pretty much gave the Pats the short passing game.

Conversely, Brady's poorest games mostly came against defenses that stop the run well...Carolina (4th), Kansas City (7th), Miami (17th), Denver (2nd) and San Diego (1st). To be fair, Brady did play well against Pittsburgh (3rd) and Tampa Bay (6th). None-the-less, it's undeniable that Brady has struggled somewhat with tougher defenses this year, and it's equally undeniable that the Pats have built their run to the playoffs against a collection of teams that don't have balanced offensive units, which has made it a lot easier for New England to build the "#1 rushing defense" in the NFL over the 2nd half of the season...LOL

My point is this...for all the talk about how Plummer needs the running game or he'll turn the ball over because Denver will get behind and have to throw...Jake has thrown 1 INT in 105 passes when trailing by 16 points or less this year...while Under the same circumstances Brady has thrown 6 INT's in 201 passes. In other words it's been BRADY rather than PLUMMER who has most needed his runnng game this year to avoid mistakes.

Jake doesn't have any rings or get to do TV commercials with cute chicks at the dinner table and yeah...the guy looks pretty scroungy...but at least as far as 2005 is concerned, Jake has actually been better under pressure than Brady has.

And that is why New England is going home a loser this weekend.

[sonsofkraftybob]

I think what sonofbobkraft fails to reallize with all this high and mighty talk about how many rings his Patsies have is that when you go to other teams boards who have never won anything...like the Saints or Bills or Jags...they find that impressive and intimidating. But when you go someplace where they have also won more than one Superbowl and played in 6...especially when that team has basically OWNED you like a prison yard girlfriend for the entire length of your franchise...well we just don't feel like falling down and quaking in fear. I did a little checking on some things:

These are the QB ratings of the Pats opposition QB's in the games against them since week 9 of the regular season when they began their run followed by the number of rushing yards these teams posted against the Patriots:

Week 9 Peyton Manning/117.1, 132 yards rushing
Week 10 Gus Frerotte/83.6, 77 yards rushing
Week 11 Aaron Brooks/80.7, 87 yards rushing
Week 12 Trent Green/127.6, 112 yards rushing
Week 13 Brian Bollinger/39.8, 41 yards rushing
Week 14 JP Losman/33.3, 14 yards rushing
Week 15 Simms/72.5, 30 yards rushing
Week 16 Bollinger/67.9, 40 yards rushing
Week 17 Leftwhich/61.1, 87 yards rushing

You will notice a direct correlation between having an effective passing threat and gaining yardage on the ground. Peyton Manning posted a 117 rating and the Colts ran for 132...Trent Green had a 127 and the Chiefs managed 112...both games the Pats lost...conversely, the team's whose QB had a misserable game...Losman for example with a 33.3...those teams didn't run the ball well (14 yards for Buff)

So I decided to look at Jake's QB rating at Invesco to see what we can expect from him at home. Plummer averages 96.3 at home and 90.2 overall. To further break it down, Plummer posted a 134.4 against the Patriots last time around. Then I decided to see how Jake stacks up in situational game stats: http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/1003/splits/2005

1) Suprisingly, Jake is best either when backed up on his own goal line or when inside the opponents Red Zone with a 96.8 and 87.4 QB rating respectively...both very respectable.

2) Equally suprising, Plummer is quite effective when he throws a lot of passes. Jake's QB rating throwing more than 31 passes is 84.5, 2nd only to his 110.5 in his first 10 passes of the game. In other words Jake is best early and late in the games he's played this year.

3) Plummer is best on 1st down, with a 100.8 QB rating, and not very good on 3rd down...77.3...not to suprising since all NFL QBs will probably fare better throwing on 1st down instead of 3rd.

4) Not suprisingly, Jake is best when he's ahead, with a 105.6 rating when ahead 1-8 points...and a 71.9 when behind by more than 16...more on this in a moment...

What about Brady? I decided to look at Brady's QB rating against the stronger teams he's faced. Overall Brady has a 92.3 passer rating...pretty good, but only 2 points better than Jake's. But look closer at the games he played against good and bad defenses:

TEAM RANK QB RATING

Atlanta 21st 140.4
Buffalo 28th 102.9
Carolina 3rd 69.3
Denver 15th 79.9
Indianapolis 11th 121.4
Kansas City 25th 42.5
Miami 18th 71.4
New Orleans 14th 111.6
NY Jets 12th 91.5
Oakland 27th 105.8
Pittsburgh 4th 92.7
San Diego 13th 78.1
Tampa Bay 1st 122.8

Statistics can be used to prove a lot of stuff that's deceptive when isolated from their context but in this case it's interesting that Brady's best games came against Atlanta, Indy, New Orleans, Oakland and Tampa Bay. Of this group only Tampa Bay has a legitimately tough defense. Indy is ranked higher than they should be because much of their success is due to teams being 3 TD's down and having to abandon the running game, and in this game they were so far ahead they pretty much gave the Pats the short passing game.

Conversely, Brady's poorest games mostly came against defenses that stop the run well...Carolina (4th), Kansas City (7th), Miami (17th), Denver (2nd) and San Diego (1st). To be fair, Brady did play well against Pittsburgh (3rd) and Tampa Bay (6th). None-the-less, it's undeniable that Brady has struggled somewhat with tougher defenses this year, and it's equally undeniable that the Pats have built their run to the playoffs against a collection of teams that don't have balanced offensive units.

My point is this...for all the talk about how Plummer needs the running game or he'll turn the ball over because Denver will get behind and have to throw...Jake has thrown 1 INT in 105 passes when trailing by 16 points or less this year...while Under the same circumstances Brady has thrown 6 INT's in 201 passes. In other words it's been BRADY rather than PLUMMER who has most needed his runnng game this year to avoid mistakes.

Jake doesn't have any rings or get to do TV commercials with cute chicks at the dinner table and yeah...the guy looks pretty scroungy...but at least as far as 2005 is concerned, Jake has actually been better under pressure than Brady has.

And that is why New England is going home a loser this weekend.

Wow. That is too long to read. I bet it was written well though.

[footstepsfrom#27]

Wow. That is too long to read. I bet it was written well though.
Easy out.

[Mile High Shack]

Wow. That is too long to read. I bet it was written well though.

you got owned dude

[Elway 4 Life]

Wow. That is too long to read. I bet it was written well though.
LOL
I dont care who ya are that's funny.

[sonsofkraftybob]

you got owned dude

War and peace was shorter. If we are supposed to read novels it would be called a Bookboard....not messageboard.

[sonsofkraftybob]

Easy out.

OK. You made me feel bad. You wrote that thesis for my benefit and I was too lazy to read it. I'll read it. Give me some time though to respond on a point by point basis (yes I left that door open...fire away)

[Born-A-Bronco]

we need "The Rock" back from some pregame stuff. does anyone know what the Denver ORg. is planning for pregame HYPE????

[sonsofkraftybob]

I think what sonofbobkraft fails to reallize with all this high and mighty talk about how many rings his Patsies have is that when you go to other teams boards who have never won anything...like the Saints or Bills or Jags...they find that impressive and intimidating. But when you go someplace where they have also won more than one Superbowl and played in 6...especially when that team has basically OWNED you like a prison yard girlfriend for the entire length of your franchise...well we just don't feel like falling down and quaking in fear. I did a little checking on some things:

These are the QB ratings of the Pats opposition QB's in the games against them since week 9 of the regular season when they began their run followed by the number of rushing yards these teams posted against the Patriots:

Week 9 Peyton Manning/117.1, 132 yards rushing
Week 10 Gus Frerotte/83.6, 77 yards rushing
Week 11 Aaron Brooks/80.7, 87 yards rushing
Week 12 Trent Green/127.6, 112 yards rushing
Week 13 Brian Bollinger/39.8, 41 yards rushing
Week 14 JP Losman/33.3, 14 yards rushing
Week 15 Simms/72.5, 30 yards rushing
Week 16 Bollinger/67.9, 40 yards rushing
Week 17 Leftwhich/61.1, 87 yards rushing

You will notice a direct correlation between having an effective passing threat and gaining yardage on the ground. Peyton Manning posted a 117 rating and the Colts ran for 132...Trent Green had a 127 and the Chiefs managed 112...both games the Pats lost...conversely, the team's whose QB had a misserable game...Losman for example with a 33.3...those teams didn't run the ball well (14 yards for Buff)

So I decided to look at Jake's QB rating at Invesco to see what we can expect from him at home. Plummer averages 96.3 at home and 90.2 overall. To further break it down, Plummer posted a 134.4 against the Patriots last time around. Then I decided to see how Jake stacks up in situational game stats: http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/1003/splits/2005

1) Suprisingly, Jake is best either when backed up on his own goal line or when inside the opponents Red Zone with a 96.8 and 87.4 QB rating respectively...both very respectable.

2) Equally suprising, Plummer is quite effective when he throws a lot of passes. Jake's QB rating throwing more than 31 passes is 84.5, 2nd only to his 110.5 in his first 10 passes of the game. In other words Jake is best early and late in the games he's played this year.

3) Plummer is best on 1st down, with a 100.8 QB rating, and not very good on 3rd down...77.3...not to suprising since all NFL QBs will probably fare better throwing on 1st down instead of 3rd.

4) Not suprisingly, Jake is best when he's ahead, with a 105.6 rating when ahead 1-8 points...and a 71.9 when behind by more than 16...more on this in a moment...

What about Brady? I decided to look at Brady's QB rating against the stronger teams he's faced. Overall Brady has a 92.3 passer rating...pretty good, but only 2 points better than Jake's. But look closer at the games he played against good and bad defenses:

TEAM/ RANK/ QB RATING

Atlanta 21st 140.4
Buffalo 28th 102.9
Carolina 3rd 69.3
Denver 15th 79.9
Indianapolis 11th 121.4
Kansas City 25th 42.5
Miami 18th 71.4
New Orleans 14th 111.6
NY Jets 12th 91.5
Oakland 27th 105.8
Pittsburgh 4th 92.7
San Diego 13th 78.1
Tampa Bay 1st 122.8

Statistics can be used to prove a lot of stuff that's deceptive when isolated from their context but in this case it's interesting that Brady's best games came against Atlanta, Indy, New Orleans, Oakland and Tampa Bay. Of this group only Tampa Bay has a legitimately tough defense. Indy is ranked higher than they should be because much of their success is due to teams being 3 TD's down and having to abandon the running game, and in this game they were so far ahead they pretty much gave the Pats the short passing game.

Conversely, Brady's poorest games mostly came against defenses that stop the run well...Carolina (4th), Kansas City (7th), Miami (17th), Denver (2nd) and San Diego (1st). To be fair, Brady did play well against Pittsburgh (3rd) and Tampa Bay (6th). None-the-less, it's undeniable that Brady has struggled somewhat with tougher defenses this year, and it's equally undeniable that the Pats have built their run to the playoffs against a collection of teams that don't have balanced offensive units, which has made it a lot easier for New England to build the "#1 rushing defense" in the NFL over the 2nd half of the season...LOL

My point is this...for all the talk about how Plummer needs the running game or he'll turn the ball over because Denver will get behind and have to throw...Jake has thrown 1 INT in 105 passes when trailing by 16 points or less this year...while Under the same circumstances Brady has thrown 6 INT's in 201 passes. In other words it's been BRADY rather than PLUMMER who has most needed his runnng game this year to avoid mistakes.

Jake doesn't have any rings or get to do TV commercials with cute chicks at the dinner table and yeah...the guy looks pretty scroungy...but at least as far as 2005 is concerned, Jake has actually been better under pressure than Brady has.

And that is why New England is going home a loser this weekend.

ok. here goes. I better get some damn props for this though!!!!!

1st paragraph. Your team has won nothing this CENTURY or MILLENIUM or DECADE or whatever for 8 years so get in the back of the bus with the rest of em.

I am not throwing out some Superbowl from the 70's like Steeler fans do. We are back to back Champs which means that the Pats are on a run. A run that has been going for 2 years straight and was continued last week with another win in the playoffs. So in essence, the Bronco's are just like all the other teams EXCEPT the Pats. You don't want to be lumped with them? Then stop our run. Beat the Champs.

Man your killing me....but here goes.

STATS: First. You left out Miami in week 17 and added Jax. Not sure if that was intentional or not....I'll assume it was because we "threw" the Miami game.

I'll concentrate on KC.....Larry Johnson would have rushed for 2,400 yards in a 16 game season....114 seems be a good job on him. But nonetheless it was a loss/

Indy finally won a game against us....so now they are 1-7. it was due to happen someday.

The rest I agree with.....but I don't put Denver in the ranks of a "passing" team. Sorry, just don't see it. maybe if you show me a game where the Bronco's won in which your rushing attack was stymied....I'll consider changing my mind....but there is no game that Jake won with his arm is there?

STATS part 2: You took a small sampling for Brady...who BTW passed for over 4,000 yards and has a career 2-1 TD to INT ratio.

Also, considering he has been king of the league for 3 years now....I think you should include those years as they are relevent because there has been NO interruption in his dominance.

He also is 7-0 in OT. 10-0 postseason. Authored a 21 game win streak which is an NFL record and has 3 rings and 2 SB MVP awards. To even attempt to diminish what he has achieved or is capeable of doing is silly.

I mean do you really think you will convince me or any other fan on this board, Bronco or pats fan that Brady only plays well against bad teams? There are no "bad" teams in the playoffs. He beat a 15-1 team and a 14-2 team last year for his SB.....throw in the team that ousted the Bronco's 2 consecutive years and those are all "good" teams.

As far as bashing Jake....all I know is that he is 1-3 in postseason. he has a reputation for throwing picks. He has a running game all year. Brady has yet to have one. Brady carried his team on his back through all the injuries. Jake was carried by Bell and Anderson.

That's all I have. You tired me out.

[RaiderH8r]

ok. here goes. I better get some damn props for this though!!!!!

1st paragraph. Your team has won nothing this CENTURY or MILLENIUM or DECADE or whatever for 8 years so get in the back of the bus with the rest of em.

I am not throwing out some Superbowl from the 70's like Steeler fans do. We are back to back Champs which means that the Pats are on a run. A run that has been going for 2 years straight and was continued last week with another win in the playoffs. So in essence, the Bronco's are just like all the other teams EXCEPT the Pats. You don't want to be lumped with them? Then stop our run. Beat the Champs.

Man your killing me....but here goes.

STATS: First. You left out Miami in week 17 and added Jax. Not sure if that was intentional or not....I'll assume it was because we "threw" the Miami game.

I'll concentrate on KC.....Larry Johnson would have rushed for 2,400 yards in a 16 game season....114 seems be a good job on him. But nonetheless it was a loss/

Indy finally won a game against us....so now they are 1-7. it was due to happen someday.

The rest I agree with.....but I don't put Denver in the ranks of a "passing" team. Sorry, just don't see it. maybe if you show me a game where the Bronco's won in which your rushing attack was stymied....I'll consider changing my mind....but there is no game that Jake won with his arm is there?

STATS part 2: You took a small sampling for Brady...who BTW passed for over 4,000 yards and has a career 2-1 TD to INT ratio.

Also, considering he has been king of the league for 3 years now....I think you should include those years as they are relevent because there has been NO interruption in his dominance.

He also is 7-0 in OT. 10-0 postseason. Authored a 21 game win streak which is an NFL record and has 3 rings and 2 SB MVP awards. To even attempt to diminish what he has achieved or is capeable of doing is silly.

I mean do you really think you will convince me or any other fan on this board, Bronco or pats fan that Brady only plays well against bad teams? There are no "bad" teams in the playoffs. He beat a 15-1 team and a 14-2 team last year for his SB.....throw in the team that ousted the Bronco's 2 consecutive years and those are all "good" teams.

As far as bashing Jake....all I know is that he is 1-3 in postseason. he has a reputation for throwing picks. He has a running game all year. Brady has yet to have one. Brady carried his team on his back through all the injuries. Jake was carried by Bell and Anderson.

That's all I have. You tired me out.
Wow. That is too long to read. I bet it was written well though.

[Master___Pain]

Wow. That is too long to read. I bet it was written well though.

:thumbs:

My thoughts exactly, after all this is a message board

[VileTom]

Psychologically speaking, the one thing the Pats have to overcome is complacency. They have three rings, three Lombardis. It's why three-peats are so tough. Do you have a compelling reason to get out there on the field and fight to your last breath for another championship? If we are to judge the Broncos psyche by Al Wilson, there's a mean and nasty hunger there. Can the Pats still stoke up the fire? I know a few players can (Brewski, Brady, etc.) But will everybody else? That hunger is tough to beat.


Being the only team to win 3 in a row has to be a strong motivation. The other teams that had a chance failed for a variety of reasons but I don't think lack of motivation was it for any of them.

I don't think complacency is an issue for the Patriots. If they get beat it's much more likely to be due to their weak DBs than any kind of mental edge their opponents have.

[REB]

Wow. That is too long to read. I bet it was written well though.

LOL

Beat me to it.


1-2-3 :Broncos:!!!!!!! :charge: :patslose: :smashpats

[McDortoh]

Did I see that correct do the Pats have the chefs old MLB starting for them. Whats his name biesel? We should be able to run for 250 on Saturday.

[Spider]

Wow. That is too long to read. I bet it was written well though.
LOL

[Minuteman]

Psychologically speaking, the one thing the Pats have to overcome is complacency. They have three rings, three Lombardis. It's why three-peats are so tough. Do you have a compelling reason to get out there on the field and fight to your last breath for another championship? If we are to judge the Broncos psyche by Al Wilson, there's a mean and nasty hunger there. Can the Pats still stoke up the fire? I know a few players can (Brewski, Brady, etc.) But will everybody else? That hunger is tough to beat.

Yes it's my first post. SUE ME!

This shows how little you know about the Patriots. 3 of 4, two in row-- the hunger lies in making a statement about an historic place in football lore.

You don't think Seymour is hungry?
You don't think Dillon is hungry?
You don't think in-your-shirt Ellis Hobbs is hungry?
Ben Watson? (You guys mark my words, he will be HUGE in this game)
Troy Brown?
David Givens?
Deion Branch? (the most underrated wideout in the game)
and all the rest...

Trust me. Complacency simply doesn't exist in the New England locker room.

The game is on and I think this will be a knockdown, drag-out affair.

This should be football at its best. I can't wait.

[Master___Pain]

Yes it's my first post. SUE ME!

This shows how little you know about the Patriots. 3 of 4, two in row-- the hunger lies in making a statement about an historic place in football lore.

You don't think Seymour is hungry?
You don't think Dillon is hungry?
You don't think in-your-shirt Ellis Hobbs is hungry?
Ben Watson? (You guys mark my words, he will be HUGE in this game)
Troy Brown?
David Givens?
Deion Branch? (the most underrated wideout in the game)
and all the rest...

Trust me. Complacency simply doesn't exist in the New England locker room.

The game is on and I think this will be a knockdown, drag-out affair.

This should be football at its best. I can't wait.


Mmmmm, I'm hungry now too.

In all seriousness, this should be a great game, but for anyone to imply that the Broncos lack motivation, are overmatched or simply don't have a great chance of winning are well.....probably employed by ESPIN

[Old Dude]

I dunno, guys. Things seem pretty mellow here at ground zero. I hate to say it, but I don't think this town is too riled up. Maybe that will change come gameday, but right now, it's very quiet.

[Minuteman]

These are the QB ratings of the Pats opposition QB's in the games against them since week 9 of the regular season when they began their run followed by the number of rushing yards these teams posted against the Patriots:

Week 9 Peyton Manning/117.1, 132 yards rushing
Week 10 Gus Frerotte/83.6, 77 yards rushing
Week 11 Aaron Brooks/80.7, 87 yards rushing
Week 12 Trent Green/127.6, 112 yards rushing
Week 13 Brian Bollinger/39.8, 41 yards rushing
Week 14 JP Losman/33.3, 14 yards rushing
Week 15 Simms/72.5, 30 yards rushing
Week 16 Bollinger/67.9, 40 yards rushing
Week 17 Leftwhich/61.1, 87 yards rushing

You will notice a direct correlation between having an effective passing threat and gaining yardage on the ground. Peyton Manning posted a 117 rating and the Colts ran for 132...Trent Green had a 127 and the Chiefs managed 112...both games the Pats lost...conversely, the team's whose QB had a misserable game...Losman for example with a 33.3...those teams didn't run the ball well (14 yards for Buff)

Of course you could also say that in those games the defense shut down BOTH the passing game AND the running game.

I appreciate someone doing their research, but please apply at least a little critical thinking to what you are doing.

[Elway 4 Life]

Of course you could also say that in those games the defense shut down BOTH the passing game AND the running game.

I appreciate someone doing their research, but please apply at least a little critical thinking to what you are doing.

You could say but you'd be alone. Just face the fact that for the last 7 or so games you played subpar teams. If you were in the AFC west you would be at home watching the playoffs. Having said all that I do think that we are in for a dog fight but we have a clear cut non disputable advantage......we are at home.

[Odysseus]

This should be football at its best. I can't wait.

Sean Salisbury says that if the Patriots stop the run the stop the Broncos. What do you think?

[Bronx33]

Sean Salisbury says that if the Patriots stop the run the stop the Broncos. What do you think?


The patties secondary is subpar so why can't plummer pass on it? or are we dealing with typical steakboy banter? hes been wrong all year about us.

[REB]

Steakboy is an idiot that for some reason does not like the Broncos

1-2-3 :Broncos:!!!!!!! :charge: :patslose: :smashpats

[Elway 4 Life]

Steakboy is an idiot that for some reason does not like the Broncos

1-2-3 :Broncos:!!!!!!! :charge: :patslose: :smashpats
I think we passed him up in the draft with our 9th round pick. He's hated us ever since.

[Meck77]

I dunno, guys. Things seem pretty mellow here at ground zero. I hate to say it, but I don't think this town is too riled up. Maybe that will change come gameday, but right now, it's very quiet.

I've only been back in town 1 day since the SD game but I'd have to agree. I heard about some rally on Friday but that's about it. People aren't painting their houses orange just yet. One thing is for sure I know the crowd will be ready come Saturday but I think the locals are a little gun shy with the one and done performance of the last couple years.


Someone mentioned the Rock. We don't need the rock. We need some old alumni to hit the field before the game to get the place going. That would be much more effective IMO.

[Odysseus]

The patties secondary is subpar so why can't plummer pass on it? or are we dealing with typical steakboy banter? hes been wrong all year about us.

Everyone talks about Plummer. I am curious as to what rival fans think about our running game.

[VileTom]

My point is this...for all the talk about how Plummer needs the running game or he'll turn the ball over because Denver will get behind and have to throw...Jake has thrown 1 INT in 105 passes when trailing by 16 points or less this year...while Under the same circumstances Brady has thrown 6 INT's in 201 passes. In other words it's been BRADY rather than PLUMMER who has most needed his runnng game this year to avoid mistakes.



So by looking at stats from this year only you reach the conclusion that Brady is completely dependant on a strong running game while Jake is a stud. It's a good thing that Brady had all time great Antowain Smith as his feature back for his first 2 Super Bowl seasons. ;D

Is it valid to completely ignore that track record from their careers prior to this year?

[Minuteman]

Mmmmm, I'm hungry now too.

In all seriousness, this should be a great game, but for anyone to imply that the Broncos lack motivation, are overmatched or simply don't have a great chance of winning are well.....probably employed by ESPIN

I've been embarrassed by all the cock sucking going on.

The only thing I can agree with is the Pats are the champs until someone knocks them off. And to be honest, Pats fans are cocky because, well, the way they have been playing looks very, very familiar.

When they spanked Tampa at home it was definitely a statement game.

Defense wins this game. And the Pats front 7 right now is playing with a ferocity that completely disrupts what the other team is trying to do.

By the way, before you guys start talking about "Who have the Pats played recently?" to prove points, take a look at the Orange schedule since the bye week. Not exactly a huge challenge there.

[Minuteman]

Everyone talks about Plummer. I am curious as to what rival fans think about our running game.

Denver's running game has been superb for a number of years, no matter who they hand the ball to. Very impressive.

If the Pats can stuff it early and make Jake need to win the game for you, you'll be in trouble.

[REB]

I think we passed him up in the draft with our 9th round pick. He's hated us ever since.

Well thank gawd for that cuz as much as he sucks as an "analyst" he sucked even more a s a QB.......

1-2-3 :Broncos:!!!!!!! :charge: :patslose: :smashpats

[Bronx33]

I've been embarrassed by all the cork sucking going on.

The only thing I can agree with is the Pats are the champs until someone knocks them off. And to be honest, Pats fans are corky because, well, the way they have been playing looks very, very familiar.

When they spanked Tampa at home it was definitely a statement game.

Defense wins this game. And the Pats front 7 right now is playing with a ferocity that completely disrupts what the other team is trying to do.

By the way, before you guys start talking about "Who have the Pats played recently?" to prove points, take a look at the Orange schedule since the bye week. Not exactly a huge challenge there.

Only difference is we didn't need the soft end of the schedule to get back on track we have been playing ball all season minus 1 game and no i don't count the Giants or KC game because we owned them except for one drive and the other was a shootout.

PS: Saturday will be your statement game if you are successful.

[footstepsfrom#27]

Of course you could also say that in those games the defense shut down BOTH the passing game AND the running game.

I appreciate someone doing their research, but please apply at least a little critical thinking to what you are doing.
Sorry...I didn't think anybody was actually stupid enough to suggest that it took much to shut down JP Losman, Gus Frerotte, Aaron Brooks, Brian Bollinger (twice), Phil Simms little boy and an injured Byron Leftwhich.

I see I was wrong.

[footstepsfrom#27]

Your team has won nothing this CENTURY or MILLENIUM or DECADE or whatever for 8 years so get in the back of the bus with the rest of em.
Uhhhh....yeah...the "millenium" has been here a long time huh? Seems like that to you does it? How old are you...14?
I am not throwing out some Superbowl from the 70's like Steeler fans do. We are back to back Champs which means that the Pats are on a run. A run that has been going for 2 years straight and was continued last week with another win in the playoffs. So in essence, the Bronco's are just like all the other teams EXCEPT the Pats. You don't want to be lumped with them? Then stop our run. Beat the Champs.
I know you find this hard to believe but after living in SF, Oakland, Denver and now Dallas...14 Superbowl championships and 22 conference championships...the fact that your Pats have ONE more than the Broncs do really doesn't impress me that much. Beating New England is something we’ve been doing for about 40 years now…so while you may think that the rest of the league is anxious to prostrate themselves in your presence…to us you’re still just the Patsies…LOL…and we enjoy kicking your a** every time we get the chance…
STATS: First. You left out Miami in week 17 and added Jax. Not sure if that was intentional or not....I'll assume it was because we "threw" the Miami game.
Brady barely played against Miami in week 17.
I'll concentrate on KC.....Larry Johnson would have rushed for 2,400 yards in a 16 game season....114 seems be a good job on him. But nonetheless it was a loss/

Indy finally won a game against us....so now they are 1-7. it was due to happen someday.

The rest I agree with.....but I don't put Denver in the ranks of a "passing" team. Sorry, just don't see it. maybe if you show me a game where the Bronco's won in which your rushing attack was stymied....I'll consider changing my mind....but there is no game that Jake won with his arm is there?

STATS part 2: You took a small sampling for Brady...who BTW passed for over 4,000 yards and has a career 2-1 TD to INT ratio.

Also, considering he has been king of the league for 3 years now....I think you should include those years as they are relevent because there has been NO interruption in his dominance.

He also is 7-0 in OT. 10-0 postseason. Authored a 21 game win streak which is an NFL record and has 3 rings and 2 SB MVP awards. To even attempt to diminish what he has achieved or is capeable of doing is silly.

I mean do you really think you will convince me or any other fan on this board, Bronco or pats fan that Brady only plays well against bad teams? There are no "bad" teams in the playoffs. He beat a 15-1 team and a 14-2 team last year for his SB.....throw in the team that ousted the Bronco's 2 consecutive years and those are all "good" teams.

As far as bashing Jake....all I know is that he is 1-3 in postseason. he has a reputation for throwing picks. He has a running game all year. Brady has yet to have one. Brady carried his team on his back through all the injuries. Jake was carried by Bell and Anderson.

That's all I have. You tired me out.
Well that's what your wife said too...but more to the point...how stupid is it that you ramble on about Brady's PAST career as being relevant to this game but any mention of the fact that Plummer played in AZ or without a decent defense IN THE PAST is immediately dismissed as irrelevant. I know you fancy yourself a "professional troll"...but trust me pal...I've seen much better. Nobody said Brady wasn't a good QB...so you can stop reciting his long list of accomplishments like you're educating the great unwashed about something we're unaware of. You missed the whole point of the post, which had to do with the fact that I keep hearing Patsie fans as well as others talking about Plummer needing his running game or he'll be shut down and we'll have to pass...thus we lose. Unfortunately for you the facts haven’t supported that anymore. Congratulations on a nice attempt to deflect the conversation elsewhere. The FACT is that as great as Brady's been...THIS YEAR...which is where we are NOW...Brady's struggled against some good defenses and you made your playoff run mostly against teams that had trouble stopping the run. At the same time…the New England defense hasn’t faced much outside of KC and Indy…both losses…so once again NOBODY CARES that you went 7-1 against Indy before now or that Larry Johnson would normally rush for 4000 yards in a single season while leaping tall buildings in a single bound…YOU LOST to them. The point is that your defense hasn’t faced or beaten a running game like ours down the stretch, and when you did face us you got punked by us on the ground. Yeah…we know you played your 2nd string defense and didn’t try anyway…etc…etc…etc…but we almost ALWAYS beat you…cripes we nearly beat you with some has-been QB I can’t even remember. You talk about dominating Indy for the last several years…we’ve dominated the Patsies for DECADES….the first game we ever played was against the old Boston Patriots…LOL…we won that one too! Even Patsie fans know this…which is why on Patsie Planet or whatever it’s called they’re moaning about how much they hate us for it…HA!

Deep down you know you fear Denver…you may not admit it…but you know it. Just like you’ve had Manning’s number…we’ve had yours. And the fact you have one extra Lombardi hasn’t changed that.

You’re still the Patsies to us.

[Odysseus]

Defense wins this game. And the Pats front 7 right now is playing with a ferocity that completely disrupts what the other team is trying to do.

I cannot think of a team that shut down the Broncos running game this year. Jake Plummer isn't Eli Manning. He actually has been around 9 years. He might have a pass or two in him to open up the running lanes. The Broncos are 8-0 in Mile High this year. The first game we lose is a home playoff game?

This is going to be lights out football. It should be fun.

[footstepsfrom#27]

So by looking at stats from this year only you reach the conclusion that Brady is completely dependant on a strong running game while Jake is a stud. It's a good thing that Brady had all time great Antowain Smith as his feature back for his first 2 Super Bowl seasons. ;D

Is it valid to completely ignore that track record from their careers prior to this year?
That is not what I said. I have no problem looking at Brady's past career...as long as YOU look at the circumstances surrounding Jakes...which most of you don't. You act as if it didn't matter than he played in AZ or the two playoff losses to the Colts were accompanied by the defense giving up 100 points. What's good for the goose is good for the gander...and you don't get to trump Brady for his past accomplishments without acknowledging that things haven't gone quite a smooth this year. He's NEEDED Corey Dillon to be there because Brady's struggled some without him...as evidenced by your record slipping a bit.

[REB]

'New England is walking into a "HELL" storm'

[Odysseus]

Denver's running game has been superb for a number of years, no matter who they hand the ball to. Very impressive.

If the Pats can stuff it early and make Jake need to win the game for you, you'll be in trouble.

EMAIL SEAN SALISBURY: info@seansalisburyonline.com

Does anybody have a clue why he goes out of this way to say stupid crap about the Broncos?

[Bronx33]

EMAIL SEAN SALISBURY: info@seansalisburyonline.com

Does anybody have a clue why he goes out of this way to say stupid crap about the Broncos?

His short comings as an NFL QB are being replaced with his drival as an NFL analyst.

[hades]

My friend Joe, who knows everything (just ask him) said the Broncos will loose this game.


He also picked the Cowboys to make it to the superbowl earlier this year, and has been unemployed for going on 3 years.

[Odysseus]

My friend Joe, who knows everything (just ask him) said the Broncos will loose this game.

He also picked the Cowboys to make it to the superbowl earlier this year, and has been unemployed for going on 3 years.

3 years without a job and he's not homeless? Wow! That whole growing up thing kind of slipped right through his fingers. I bet if you unplug his XBox and open a window he'll scream the natural light burns his eyes.

[TommyD4207]

Funny...Broncosfan talks also sorts of crap, but all I can hear is This. (http://ualuealuealeuale.ytmnd.com/)

A shame really. I'm sure they bring up salient points...

[Bronx33]

3 years without a job and he's not homeless? Wow! That whole growing up thing kind of slipped right through his fingers. I bet if you unplug his XBox and open a window he'll scream the natural light burns his eyes.

Iam going to guess hes white as a turnip too..

[VileTom]

That is not what I said. I have no problem looking at Brady's past career...as long as YOU look at the circumstances surrounding Jakes...which most of you don't. You act as if it didn't matter than he played in AZ or the two playoff losses to the Colts were accompanied by the defense giving up 100 points. What's good for the goose is good for the gander...and you don't get to trump Brady for his past accomplishments without acknowledging that things haven't gone quite a smooth this year. He's NEEDED Corey Dillon to be there because Brady's struggled some without him...as evidenced by your record slipping a bit.

It seemed to me that this year Brady carried the team without much help from the rest of the offense or defense but it seems impossible to convince opposing fans that he's more than a "system" QB.

I'm not thinking much about Jake in AZ. I'm thinking more about him last year when he threw 20 INTs. In a lot of ways he reminds me of a lesser version of Favre. He has the "gunslinger" style which when it works looks great and when it fails looks really bad. It always seemed to me that "bad Jake" showed up a little more often than "good Jake".









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[ozomulsion]

I'm not thinking much about Jake in AZ. I'm thinking more about him last year when he threw 20 INTs. In a lot of ways he reminds me of a lesser version of Favre. He has the "gunslinger" style which when it works looks great and when it fails looks really bad. It always seemed to me that "bad Jake" showed up a little more often than "good Jake"

Does it now? My guess is yes. BTW, I don't believe Brady is a system QB.