1st Round Pick from Wash.

[RMT]

Since the Redskins have started winning over the past four weeks, the 1st round Redskin pick we hold has dropped from #15 to #20. I believe that lessens the likelihood the Broncos try trading up.

Does anyone think they'll trade DOWN like they did last year? Another WR and DL would be a nice addition. Some depth on the OL would be a possible direction on day one.

What are some of your thoughts?

[Billy Clyde Puckett]

I think there will be many trades during the draft by all teams due to the depth of this class. Broncs have 2 fisrts, a second, a third and two fourths plus a couple of comp picks coming. That gives them some flexibility to move down and grab a guy they really like. Many here are set on grabbing a safety in the first, but that is a low pay position with plenty of options in FA so I think that is their FA play. Desperately need a WR, two young DL and a young OL out of this draft.

[RMT]

That's exactly how I see things shaping up for the Broncos, although some of that depends on which DL they keep. Regardless, they need a stout DL pass rusher. We need some more speed and pass rushing ability on the DL.

I'm not sure about safety, though. Joey Browner is extremely raw but was considered a top prospect until he went undrafted. He came out of college way too early and is at least a year away from making an impact, unless it's on special teams.

I am concerned about WR. OL depth would be good to have. We're not as deep there as in recent years. George Foster should restructure his contract for the Broncos. He is overpaid, in my opinion. It isn't that he isn't trying, but he's not progressed as much as to be expected.

[Billy Clyde Puckett]

Foster is still in his rookie contract. He is not expensive and had a very good year last year. Has been nicked up this year. Hope he turns it around next year.

Broncs desperately need a couple of young guys on the DL. Nobody takes more of a beating than a defensive lineman and all of the Broncs have the wounds to prove it. Need some fresh bodies there both at DE and Dt.

[SpringStein]

Derek Hagan, WR fron Az. State, is a player I've liked for awhile. He should be selected close to the Skins pick.

[RMT]

Derek Hagan, WR fron Az. State, is a player I've liked for awhile. He should be selected close to the Skins pick.

Here's one site's take on DH, http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/scoutingreports/wr/derekhagan.html

[Play2win]

Broncs desperately need a couple of young guys on the DL. Nobody takes more of a beating than a defensive lineman and all of the Broncs have the wounds to prove it. Need some fresh bodies there both at DE and Dt.
I think a Dominating, Talented DT would change the whole complexion of our defense, and take it to the next level...

[Billy Clyde Puckett]

Here's one site's take on DH, http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/scoutingreports/wr/derekhagan.html

Contrary to what this says, the most impressive part of his game tonight was his blocking. If you watched he was in front of almost every play.

[Billy Clyde Puckett]

I think a Dominating, Talented DT would change the whole complexion of our defense, and take it to the next level...
Well I am an admitted DE bigot, but I would take a dominating DT to match up with Warren.

[SoCalBronco]

Foster is still in his rookie contract. He is not expensive and had a very good year last year. Has been nicked up this year. Hope he turns it around next year.

Broncs desperately need a couple of young guys on the DL. Nobody takes more of a beating than a defensive lineman and all of the Broncs have the wounds to prove it. Need some fresh bodies there both at DE and Dt.

Yep. Our DL, especially the DE situation will become a full blown crisis when Trevor refuses another paycut from his impending 9.1 million dollar salary next year, leaving us with Engelberger, Ekuban and Brown* as our entire DE rotation should Pryce get dealt/cut. Not a great thing to look forward too, yet it will be a challenge we will have to tackle head on. There isnt going to be room to leverage anymore guys and tape up the problem. We are going to have to resolve this. Before the season, I thought it would go one of three ways. First, Trevor would be the old trevor and totally dominate, thereby giving him a good grip on the front office's balls in the offseason when they would again come to him for cap relief. On the upside though, it would prove to possible suitors who were previously interested in Pryce that he overcame the injury and was still the old Trevor even at 30. In that respect, we could really get some nice compensation in return. The opposite scenario is that he would be just a shadow of himself. While this would create a big FA/Draft DE need for the team, it would supply us with a great deal of leverage in asking Pryce to take a very steep pay cut and relieve fears that he could hurt us with Oakland, KC, SD or other AFC rival.

The final scenario is the cloudiest, the gray area scenario, which we are squarely in. Pryce has had an okay, but not great year. Started out really well, totally dominated the Chiefs on MNF, really looked like a beast. Slowly but surely however, he has tapered off game by game, as has the rest of the line. He's now an above average DE still, but to be sure, he isnt the "old Trevor". At the very least, he hasnt been in that old Trevor mode for about 8 games or so. This was the worst situation for the team so far as the concept of certainty goes. It muddies the water too much. There is now significant risk out there no matter which avenue we choose. Is Trevor now a full blown over the hill DE or has he just had a below par final half season? He has played well enough overall so that he has leverage to refuse a very steep pay cut demand. He could still make a good deal of money (albeit nowhere near 9 million per season) somewhere else. He is still good enough that he could go to a division or conference rival and hurt us. There is going to be a fairly painful downside no matter what. I dont think Trevor would voluntarily do more than cut half his cap number, I think the max he will go down to is about 5 million. I dont think thats going to be good enough for the front office given that we need to re-sign Warren and Lepsis and make some room for Courtney as well and the likely 7 or 8 selections in the first four rounds alone. Do you let him go out on the open market and allow the team cap relief in the form of 9 million (given that Herc has said there is no more bonus proration that could hurt us)? Do you try trading him to an NFC club and take only a 3rd? If you choose the former, you know he is still decent and the Chargers have a ****load of cap room as well as other AFC rivals. Do you want to motivate Trevor to **** you up when he plays you? If you choose the latter, you get that cap relief and he isnt with an AFC team. In both situations though youve got a full blown DE problem now and your going to have to tie up significant resources to get it up to par and you wont be able to use the draft as a way to just add onto an overall solid team and bump us up to the elite level, you suddenly have a really huge need. And is a 3rd proper compensation? Or do you cut his salary in half for the second year in a row and still have a 5 million albatross on your neck, crossing your fingers that Trevor will look like the 2003 version instead of the 2002 and 2005 version? If we go that route, at least we dont have to **** up our draft by quickly trying to stockpile players at DE, when we could have otherwise just had the draft come to us with no real needs and just use the boatload of picks to make an all around solid team a really great team. There are no easy answers here. There is real risks no matter what. I dont see one option as clearly superior to another, although I have some leanings to which I like better than others. None of them are really palatable though.

Shanny and Sundy will have to find a way to snake out of this quagmire relatively unscathed this summer. There will be big decisions at DE this summer with (mainly) Pryce and Brown which will have a ripple effect on the draft and FA. This is going to be a difficult challenge to balance it all and come out smelling like roses. Very difficult.

* Assuming the team pays Brown the 2 million roster bonus he is slated to recieve.

[NFLBRONCO]

I think Pryce Brown Warren Lepsis decisions will be interesting.


The draft won't help us as much as I hoped I wanted trade down options to stockpile picks in case we were forced to upgrade both lines more then expected in 06.

[OrangeShadow]

id love to see us land michael huff

[Hercules Rockefeller]

I'm not sure about safety, though. Joey Browner is extremely raw but was considered a top prospect until he went undrafted. He came out of college way too early and is at least a year away from making an impact, unless it's on special teams.


"Top prospect" and "undrafted" are kind of oxymorons. He was highly rated at corner before he ran his slow 40 time. That's why he was switched to safety. The guy has shown nothing yet, except looked good in a few practices before he got hurt.

[Rascal]

With Browns contract i really doubt we will keep him next year. I think Ekuban and Warren are the two browns that have had the biggest impact. Ekuban has been a force at DE IMO.

[Broncoman13]

Ek has also been a great lockerroom presence. He's kept the young guys from getting big heads, and despite being a first year Bronco, has constantly reminded the team of their late season collapses. He's a good player to have.

I still think we keep Brown. I think he'll get restructured, but he'll stay in Denver. I also think this year will be the year we get an extra pick for Pryce. Hopefully, we can flip him for an 07 first. I'd say a team like the Bucs or the Eagles would take him for a future pick. Both teams know that their pick in 07 will likely be in the 20's (late 20's) and getting Pryce will be like getting two firsts this year. Having two firsts in two consectutive years would go a long ways toward shoring up this team for years to come!

I also think there is a pretty good chance we bring in a guy like La'roi Glover this offseason. He's 31 now and likely only has about 2 years left on his tires, but he gets good pressure up the middle and is still disruptive in the run game. I'm guessing but I think a 5 year $20 million deal w/3 or 4 mil up front would land him. He won't get a large signing bonus, mainly b/c of his age and b/c teams are rumored to be shying away from big bonuses b/c of the CBA unknowns. So anyhow, 5 years even with 5 mil up front and the last three being backloaded give us his services for the first couple years at about 2 mil per season. If we cut him after year two we eat 2-3 million.

[Billy Clyde Puckett]

With Browns contract i really doubt we will keep him next year. I think Ekuban and Warren are the two browns that have had the biggest impact. Ekuban has been a force at DE IMO.

The Brown situation is simialr to the Pryce situation only on a smaller scale. He will need to take a big cut and I suspect there is less interest in him than Pryce.

[SoCalBronco]

I have to disagree with you, Oskie.

No one is going to give us a 1 for Trevor.

Yes, he has proven he is healthy again but he isnt the same guy as he was in
03 and he is about to be 31. Probably a 3, or a conditional 3 that could rise toa 2. That actually would be fine with me, im just concerned that it would **** up our draft thats all. I want to be sitting pretty going into the draft not being forced to do anything. If Trevor is dealt, which makes financial sense as well, we wont be able to just do as we please in the draft and add talent whereever we feel like it if we can somehow get around this Trevor problem without damage. That's what I think is going to put us over the top. With everyone else scrambling to fill needs, we can just sit back and add talent. Its going to be tough, although if Warren and Lepsis are resigned, they probably were going to go DE in Round 1 somewhere anyway I suppose.

[Broncoman13]

I don't know, I think there were quite a few teams kicking themselves for not taking a serious shot at Trev. I think a team like the Bucs or Eagles will firmly believe they're a couple players away from the SB. If they think that way they might be willing to part with a late 1st round pick.

Similar to what happened with Wash last year. Something (god only knows) made Gibbs believe he had a team that would challenge this year (god only knows how they've done it!) and made that first rounder in 06 expendable. We all looked at it as a high pick, turns out it's likely gonna be in the 20's somewhere.

At any rate, I don't think Pryce is going to be back with us. I'm not happy about it, but I think we've been using him wrong for about 3 or 4 years now anyhow. He was dominant as a DT, as a DE he's not even top 3 in the AFC West!

What do you think about Martin Nance (WR, Miami, Ohio)?

[Rascal]

On a different thread, they should probably be merged but anyway, it was reported that Browns bonus for next year (due to incentives) will only be 2 mil. If that is the case it makes him a lot more affordable but I'm still not sure he is worth it but he could turn it up a notch in the playoffs. I am honestly not expecting us to keep Trevor. He is an average DE at best, and since he either refuses to play DT or his body won't allow him he is not worth his salary. I'm with Socal in that I think he will expect to get paid at least 5 mil next year and there is no way he is worth that much. If we get a second for him it would be a steal IMO. At this current juncture I think Trevor is gone but we will keep Warren, Brown, and Ekuban.

[Broncoman13]

I think that sounds about right. I'm still holding out hope that some team will give us an 07 first in hopes of getting to the SB for him... but if it's a 2nd in 06 I'll be just fine with that!

BUT, we still need a speed rusher. I have no doubt that Ekuban and Brown can hold down one side. That's a pretty damn good rotation. But we need a guy like Abraham on the opposite side!

Hopefully we will have "The Plan 2" that features a draft including Huff with 1a, Nance with 1b, Cutler with 2, and OG's in the 3rd. Then in Free Agency we bring in an Abraham like player and a La'Roi Glover like player..... we'll be set!

[Ratboy]

On a different thread, they should probably be merged but anyway, it was reported that Browns bonus for next year (due to incentives) will only be 2 mil. If that is the case it makes him a lot more affordable but I'm still not sure he is worth it but he could turn it up a notch in the playoffs. I am honestly not expecting us to keep Trevor. He is an average DE at best, and since he either refuses to play DT or his body won't allow him he is not worth his salary. I'm with Socal in that I think he will expect to get paid at least 5 mil next year and there is no way he is worth that much. If we get a second for him it would be a steal IMO. At this current juncture I think Trevor is gone but we will keep Warren, Brown, and Ekuban.

and drafting Mario Williams? :egbgb:

[Rascal]

I only wish. I'm thinking he will be gone by pick 10.

[Billy Clyde Puckett]

I think that sounds about right. I'm still holding out hope that some team will give us an 07 first in hopes of getting to the SB for him... but if it's a 2nd in 06 I'll be just fine with that!

BUT, we still need a speed rusher. I have no doubt that Ekuban and Brown can hold down one side. That's a pretty damn good rotation. But we need a guy like Abraham on the opposite side!

Hopefully we will have "The Plan 2" that features a draft including Huff with 1a, Nance with 1b, Cutler with 2, and OG's in the 3rd. Then in Free Agency we bring in an Abraham like player and a La'Roi Glover like player..... we'll be set!

Can't agree Oskie. Broncs need youth on the DL. This year was a huge gamble with all of the vets with big injury histories. Can't expect to be that lucky again. I know Huff is a great college player, but there is a surplus of safeties in FA and they will come cheap, DL in Fa will not come cheap.

Also, Hope you got to see the Insight Bowl last night. I was not a big Hagan guy till I watched him closely last night. Did not have big stats but he did all of the things the Broncs like very well. Danielson kept comparing him to Rod, but to me he was more like Eddy Mac. Ran perfect routes and was a blocking fool. I am about to jump on that bandwagon.

I like Cutler, but don't think he will ever be a star in the league. He'll be a nice consistent backup for a couple of years that has a chance to be a Trent Dilfer type starter. Other needs are too great to use a second round pick on him.

My opinion is the first four picks would ideally be 2 DL, a WR and an OL. The five picks in rounds 3/4 ( assuming two comp picks) should be aimed at nice solid depth at all positions. Perhaps another WR/KR, a RB, a LB another Ol and a DB.

[Billy Clyde Puckett]

I only wish. I'm thinking he will be gone by pick 10.

After the combine he will probably go top 5. His athletic ability is off the charts.

[Rascal]

Cutler will be the #3 QB off the board and too early for us. I don't want us using a first or second rounder on a QB unless the value is just too much to pass up.

I think Hagan will be picked in the mid 2nd round, but maybe later if some underclassman declare.

[Ratboy]

Who will be #1 and #2?

[Broncoman13]

Can't argue with that and I've been on the Hagan bandwagon all season! He'll likely never be more than a 2, but he goes up after the ball and he is fiery. I like his willingness to do the little things. He'll likely be there with our pick in the first. Still, you have to wonder if Nance isn't the safer pick w/more potential. I through Cutler's name out there seeing if anyone would bite. Personally, I'd much rather have A&M's McNeal in the 2nd. He's a fit for our system. Not saying we have to go QB in the 2nd, but if we did that's who I'd prefer.

Huff is a star in the making! I'd take my chances on a WR falling to us in the 2nd round before I pass on him. I thought he was coming out last year and if you search back you'll see that I was all over him last year around this time. A player in the secondary that can play CB or Safety is very important. Especially with this new Big Nickel that's being used all over the league. Somebody will be very happy to get this kid. He's as close to Ed Reed as we'll ever come!!!

The problem with this draft is DE depth. Williams and Kiwi are the only two impact players and Kiwi is starting to catch the "possible bust" label. At any rate, I don't think Kiwi lasts to our pick, and I know Williams won't.

At DT there are some interesting prospects. Rod Wright could make it to the Skins pick and he would be a great pick IMO. He's got the "underachiever" label, but he's a stronger player than Rogers at this point. Same upside. If he lasts, I'd love that pick.

I'm a little all over the place today. I don't usually settle my sights until late March. I mean, this time last year I would've gave anything to grab Mathias Kiwanuka, now I'm not so sure about him. Too bad for him. That's the risk of returning to school. Last year he would've been a top 10 choice...this year he won't go in the top 10 and there's a chance he won't go in the top 20.

Abraham would cost some jack no doubt... but Glover wouldn't be that bad. I wish this draft has some talented WR's like the last two or three drafts!

Wouldn't it be nice to find a Javon Walker late in the first!

I'll pull some write-ups on Hagan and Nance... see what you think.

[Broncoman13]

Derek Hagan
Height: 6-2 | Weight: 202 | 40-Time: 4.54

Official Bio

Strengths:
Has solid size...Is a smart and cagey receiver who just knows how to get open...Runs good routes...Is more quick than fast...Tough and will lay his body on the line...Does a solid job of running after the catch...Never gives up on a play...Adjusts well to bad throws...Overachiever who gets the most out of his ability...Very productive...The type who does everything well but nothing great.

Weaknesses:
Does not have great pure speed...Is not a deep threat...Will still drop some catchable passes and hands are somewhat questionable...May have trouble separating from pro defensive backs...Is not a great blocker...Does not work the middle of the field much...May not have a lot of upside at the next level.

Notes:
An excellent college receiver who you have to temper your excitement about as a prospect due to his lack of ideal physical tools...Can be a solid #2 or possession receiver but to expect much more is probably being too optimistic.



Martin Nance
Height: 6-5 | Weight: 210 | 40-Time: 4.50

Official Bio

Strengths:
Has tremendous size and a big frame...Is a major threat in the red zone...Is underrated athletically...Good leaper who knows how to go up and get the ball...Has big, strong, reliable hands...Will make the acrobatic catch...Physical and knows how to use his body...Tough player who is more than willing to go over the middle...Solid route runner...Intangibles are top notch...Very productive.

Weaknesses:
May not always play up to his timed speed...Is not very quick...Isn't an explosive athlete...Could have trouble getting separation against pro defensive backs...Probably won't be a major deep threat at the pro level...Will lose focus at times...Has missed some time due to injury...If he doesn't run well in workouts teams may downgrade his upside to that of a #2 or possession receiver.

Notes:
Had a monster season in 2003 (90 rec. for 1,498 yards and 11 touchdowns) as Ben Roethlisberger's main target...Missed most of the 2004 season with an ACL injury...Based on size, speed and production this guy has just about everything you look for and is potentially a #1 receiver at the next level.

[Rascal]

If our first round picks are Wright and Huff, with our second being Hagan I would be estatic.

After that I think we take OL and another DL in the third.

[Broncoman13]

Cutler will be the #3 QB off the board and too early for us. I don't want us using a first or second rounder on a QB unless the value is just too much to pass up.

I think Hagan will be picked in the mid 2nd round, but maybe later if some underclassman declare.

I don't know about the 2nd rounder being too early. A guy like Reggie McNeal is well worth a late 2nd round pick. You could always roll the dice and hope for a Brodie Croyle, Charlie Whitehurst, or Brad Smith later in the draft... but Reggie is a stronger, faster, more accurate version of Jake!

I've really not seen much of Cutler. Everybody's been hyping him as the third QB off the board so I through his name out there. I've heard he's like a Brett Favre and sometimes trusts his arm a little too much, but that's really all I know about him. Perhaps some of you East Coast folks could enlighten us. Reggie McNeal, Vince Young, Brad Smith... seen plenty of those guys!

[Rascal]

I don't know about McNeal I am not sure he is just not another Vick. Great athelete but dumb as a post and a horrible QB.

More accurate then Jake? That's not saying a lot but from the games I've seen his accuracy was sporadic at best.

[Mile High Shack]

I don't know about the 2nd rounder being too early. A guy like Reggie McNeal is well worth a late 2nd round pick. You could always roll the dice and hope for a Brodie Croyle, Charlie Whitehurst, or Brad Smith later in the draft... but Reggie is a stronger, faster, more accurate version of Jake!

I've really not seen much of Cutler. Everybody's been hyping him as the third QB off the board so I through his name out there. I've heard he's like a Brett Favre and sometimes trusts his arm a little too much, but that's really all I know about him. Perhaps some of you East Coast folks could enlighten us. Reggie McNeal, Vince Young, Brad Smith... seen plenty of those guys!

I know you are a big Texas homer

but McNeal sucks baws dude

he had a good freshman year and a good 1/2 of a year last year, but he really sucked this year

that and he gets hurt all the time

I'll go ape**** if we draft him any higher than 6

[Broncoman13]

If our first round picks are Wright and Huff, with our second being Hagan I would be estatic.

After that I think we take OL and another DL in the third.

I think Huff goes off the board around #20. I doubt we get both Huff and Wright, though I'd be very happy if we did. Rod is another player that cost himself a lot by returning to school. He would have been a top 15 pick last year. This year, there's a chance that he slides to the 2nd round! I could see him being this years Shaun Rogers though!


Michael Huff
Height: 6-1 | Weight: 205 | 40-Time: 4.45

Official Bio

Strengths:
Very athletic with excellent speed...A playmaker and ballhawk in the secondary who has a nose for the ball...Has a knack for taking interceptions to the house...Versatile and has experience at both safety and cornerback...Moves well and shows terrific range...Good tackler...Smart player with tremendous instincts...Comes from a program with a strong history of developing pro DB's.

Weaknesses:
May be a bit of a 'tweener who doesn't fit in at either safety or corner at the pro level...Will gamble at times in an effort to come away with a turnover...Needs to work on and refine his technique...Needs to get stronger...Was shuffled around throughout his career and was never able to concentrate on just one position.

Notes:
Thorpe Award winner...Brother (Marcus King) is a safety at Missouri...When it comes to making a big play in the secondary you won't find many who have done it as well as this guy at the college level the past few years...His pro position is still up in the air but with his physical tools it certainly gives teams a lot of options.

Rodrique Wright
Height: 6-5 | Weight: 305 | 40-Time: 5.00

Official Bio

Strengths:
Big with a large frame that he could easily pack some additional pounds onto...An excellent natural athlete...Very quick and explosive with a burst...Strong and can hold his ground...Has great range and makes plays all over the field...Will penetrate and cause problems in the backfield...Has a lot of experience...Might be able to play defensive end in a 3-4 scheme...Still has a lot of upside.

Weaknesses:
An underachiever who doesn't always play up to his physical ability...Is not a hard worker...Technique is lacking...Will play too high at times...Allows blockers to lock on...Motor and stamina are very questionable...Has some durability concerns and dealt with a nagging angle injury for most of his junior season.

Notes:
Cousin of NFL defensive lineman Cedric Woodard and his uncle Elmo was a first-round draft pick of the Kansas City Chiefs in 1971...Talented player who looked like a future elite pro prospect early in his career before leveling off...Has the tools to be great but must be more consistent to fulfill that potential.

[Broncoman13]

I know you are a big Texas homer

but McNeal sucks baws dude

he had a good freshman year and a good 1/2 of a year last year, but he really sucked this year

that and he gets hurt all the time

I'll go ape**** if we draft him any higher than 6

A&M was horrible this year no doubt but not all of that is on Reggie's shoulders, in fact none of it should be. Coming into this season Reggie was leading the BIG 12 in passing effeciency... that's saying quite a bit when you consider the best A&M WR in the past 4 years was TMurph and even he wasn't all that good!

I can't vouch for Reggie's mental capacity. He could be dumb as a box of rocks for all I know, but I kind of doubt it. He hasn't had much in the way of teammates for three years now. You surround him with talent and the dude can play ball! He's a better passer than Brad Smith with equal run ability. In fact his run ability is probably equal to that of Vince Young!

[Broncoman13]

I know you are a big Texas homer

but McNeal sucks baws dude

he had a good freshman year and a good 1/2 of a year last year, but he really sucked this year

that and he gets hurt all the time

I'll go ape**** if we draft him any higher than 6


Not sure where you got all this info from either? He didn't do all that well his Freshman year. His sophmore year was decent. His Jr. year was brilliant. He's missed 1 game in the past three years... where is the gets hurt all the time thing coming from?

[Billy Clyde Puckett]

I was at field level when A&M came to Boulder this year and I have seen him several times on TV. McNeal throws a great ball and can get it off while off balance. He does not handle the ball very well and will need lots of coaching in that area. My big problem in seeing him in person is that he is very short. I know the bios on him say 6'1" or so, but the top of his helmet only came up to the shoulder of the ref. If he is 6'1", that ref was 7'. There are always a couple of QBs that catch someones eye and go much earlier than deserved (Boller/Loseman) and McNeal could be that guy, but I see him going in rounds 4+.

You don't see many Vandy games on TV, but I did catch Cutler a couple of times on my travels to Atlanta this year. I don't get the Farve comparison. He has a nice arm but I did not see him throw it all over the place. I thought he was a very smart and technically sound kind of guy. Matter of fact, although he is a little bigger, the guy he reminded me most of was Kubiak from his days at A&M.

I am not down on Nance, I just haven't seen him much. I think I saw him once early this year and nothing stands out in my mind about him. Being a natural skeptic, I tend to discount what most of the web "scouting" services say about players until closer to the actual draft and then there are still some that are total BS.

I also won't argue that Huff is not going to be an excellent player. I just think that need is less pressing than others and can easily be addressed in othere ways.

[Mile High Shack]

A&M was horrible this year no doubt but not all of that is on Reggie's shoulders, in fact none of it should be. Coming into this season Reggie was leading the BIG 12 in passing effeciency... that's saying quite a bit when you consider the best A&M WR in the past 4 years was TMurph and even he wasn't all that good!

I can't vouch for Reggie's mental capacity. He could be dumb as a box of rocks for all I know, but I kind of doubt it. He hasn't had much in the way of teammates for three years now. You surround him with talent and the dude can play ball! He's a better passer than Brad Smith with equal run ability. In fact his run ability is probably equal to that of Vince Young!


ok I was wrong on the years

it was last year his junior year he was good, this year he was just horrible and got hurt all the time

even his junior year, he couldn't finish a few games b/c he got hurt during the game

I don't want a part of him at all..........no, no, no

I don't want any QB that played in the Big 12 this year at all, including Vince Young

[labronco]

if wsh loses to phi today, where do we draft?

[Hercules Rockefeller]

if wsh loses to phi today, where do we draft?

If Dallas wins, I believe the Skins pick 18th. If Dallas loses, then the Skins will have the 19th pick but the Skins will also be in the playoffs.

[labronco]

thanks, herc. good to know there's a football game worth watching today.

[27atwater]

officially, it can only be 21, 22, 31 or 32.