Paying A Bet...Offering Options...

[ZachKC]

I made a bet with Baja that I thought was different but ended up being in teams records...

It was for 35 bucks.

http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showpost.php?p=697772&postcount=29
http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showpost.php?p=697823&postcount=39

I am happy to pay up the bet. Ok maybe not happy....ha.

I propose an idea for the money though...

I would love to donate the money on behalf of Baja to The 37 Forever foundation in honor of Joe Delany. Alot of folks around here know the story but it can't be told enough times.

The foundation is dedicated to giving swim lessons to kids who couldn't afford them otherwise.

You can get a good idea of the man that this is based on from a great column by Rick Reilly from an old SI.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/inside_game/rick_reilly/news/2003/07/01/reilly0707/

I can provide a paypal receipt for prrof of payment. If you would rather I just give the money to you thats all good as well. You are the winner so it is up to you. No hard feelings either way.

www.37forever.org

[ludo21]

take the money baja Ha!

Good idea tho Zach, great story.

[ZachKC]

Good idea tho Zach
Thanks, I actually pay bets I make.

I am not 24champbailey.

[easymobee]

37 Forever is a good cause.

IMO though, if the money were to be donated .... it should be donated to the Mane (maybe pay for Baja's 1st year of "Premium" status if such a move were to be made).

Maybe the 37 forever foundation is a "Better" cause, but it was a Broncos-Chiefs bet and it should either benefit Baja or his preferred message board/charity (if he has one that he likes a lot).

[Atlas]

I made a bet with Baja that I thought was different but ended up being in teams records...

It was for 35 bucks.

http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showpost.php?p=697772&postcount=29
http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showpost.php?p=697823&postcount=39

I am happy to pay up the bet. Ok maybe not happy....ha.

I propose an idea for the money though...

I would love to donate the money on behalf of Baja to The 37 Forever foundation in honor of Joe Delany. Alot of folks around here know the story but it can't be told enough times.

The foundation is dedicated to giving swim lessons to kids who couldn't afford them otherwise.

You can get a good idea of the man that this is based on from a great column by Rick Reilly from an old SI.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/inside_game/rick_reilly/news/2003/07/01/reilly0707/

I can provide a paypal receipt for prrof of payment. If you would rather I just give the money to you thats all good as well. You are the winner so it is up to you. No hard feelings either way.

www.37forever.org

BullSh!t!!

Give Baja his dough and make your own donation!!

[Atlas]

If your going to do make a $35 donation for Baja then you should match his donation with your own $35 donation.

[Kaylore]

pwnd

[CBF1]

Why not just pay the man...that was what the bet was for in the first place.

[orange crusher]

Just my opinion, but I think that should have been presented to Baja when the bet was made. Since it wasn't, I think you should just pay him. If it was to go to a charity, I think it should go to a charity of Baja's choice. Not that the 37 Forever Foundation isn't for a good cause, but so is the John Lynch Foundation and many others.

[Garcia Bronco]

The 37F does great work. Besides...he'd have to covert the the 35 beans to Pesos.

[Orange_Beard]

Why don't you give your own money to the "The 37 Forever foundation in honor of Joe Delany"
Not money you lost to someone else.

[ZachKC]

Why not just pay the man...that was what the bet was for in the first place.
If thats what he wants then ill make it happen...

[watermock]

Why don't you give your own money to the "The 37 Forever foundation in honor of Joe Delany"
Not money you lost to someone else.

Even tho he was nuts to jump in when he couldn't swim, you can't deny his courage.

I don't have a prblem at all giving to Delaney's foundation if his widow is struggling.

It's a shame noone could reach Tony Dungy's kid....he's got to be devestated...that website was messed up...who knows if Dungy even knew if it existed...he's so into that team....mom should of watched him a little closer...

Oh well...the worst thing you can do is blame yourself..there is no evidence at all about any abuse....the kid was just messed up...Tony's wife shoud of sounded a warning bell. You just go on.

it's amusing, I was so string young I body surfed off Mazetlan and the riptite was astounding....now I would only wade out there...I was in the surf without a board body surfing...I'm a fish, but I don't have the stamina now...my kid passed his 10 foot test at 3! He might of just bobbed around, but he passed it...he's fearless in water like I was. I just don't have the stamina now.

[RhymesayersDU]

I think it's a cool idea to donate to a charity, but with that said, it does kinda seem like you just don't want to pay baja. Personally, I think you genuinely want to do somethng good with the money during the holiday season, but I'm just saying, that's how you come off.

If baja approves, it's a good deal for everybody involved. You guys' bet is settled and a charity gets some funding. But, perhaps that should have been on the table when the bet was originally made.

Anywho, either way, it'll work itself out.

[Meck77]

I think he should pay Baja, 37 forever, the omane, and buy beer for all the omaners at the next KC @ Broncos tailgate in Denver just for wasting our time with this thread instead of just paying up the bet.

[Rock Chalk]

I think he should pay Baja, 37 forever, the omane, and buy beer for all the omaners at the next KC @ Broncos tailgate in Denver just for wasting our time with this thread instead of just paying up the bet.
He said he would pay the bet. He was just offering an alternative solution.

Geez, this is a tough room.

Somehow I doubt baja needs the 35 dollars so bad that he would not agree to this. Its Christmas time, 37 Forever is a good cause and its just an ALTERNATIVE, if baja was so inclined.

[watermock]

you would be lucky to get an empty can of skoal.

[watermock]

Stiffing Baja is more like telling Donald Trump his makover wasn't free...or telling Mark Cuban he can't wear t-shirts.

[orange crusher]

Zach, why didn't you just ask Baja about this instead of starting a thread? Just wondering because it almost seems like you wanted to start the thread so Baja would feel heartless if he took your money instead of donating it. That might not have been the reason but that's how it appears, to me anyway.

So far, it looks to me like:

1) Pay Baja (Zach makes donation to 37F with his own $ if he chooses)
2) Make donation to 37F with the money only if Zach matches donation.

[Broncoman13]

He said he would pay the bet. He was just offering an alternative solution.

Geez, this is a tough room.

Somehow I doubt baja needs the 35 dollars so bad that he would not agree to this. Its Christmas time, 37 Forever is a good cause and its just an ALTERNATIVE, if baja was so inclined.


I think it's a nice gesture on behalf of Zach, but it's something he should have brought up via PM rather than putting it up so everybody can see it. Baja isn't the modest/influenceable type so it won't be a big deal, but somebody could feel a little obligated, being that this is on the front page with everybody viewing it. One might feel a bit guilty for saying give me the $$$ on this type of forum.

Good though Zach, next time do it in private.

[Rascal]

I think it's a nice gesture on behalf of Zach, but it's something he should have brought up via PM rather than putting it up so everybody can see it. Baja isn't the modest/influenceable type so it won't be a big deal, but somebody could feel a little obligated, being that this is on the front page with everybody viewing it. One might feel a bit guilty for saying give me the $$$ on this type of forum.

Good though Zach, next time do it in private.

Screw modesty I'd tell him to pay me :devil:

[Atlas]

He said he would pay the bet. He was just offering an alternative solution.

Geez, this is a tough room.

Somehow I doubt baja needs the 35 dollars so bad that he would not agree to this. Its Christmas time, 37 Forever is a good cause and its just an ALTERNATIVE, if baja was so inclined.


Why should he donate $35 of Baja's money? If he wants to donate money he should donate his own.

[Broncoman13]

I would too based on the fact that he put this in a public forum... if he would have asked me in private I'd say donate it!

[TheDave]

sounds like an attempt to weasel out of the bet... pay the man and let him donate it if he wants!

[GonzoLays]

ZachKC is just being the bitch that he is. He can't help it. He loses a bet and tries to make the winner feel bad about collecting his money. There is no honor about what he is doing and quite frankly, I expected nothing less of Chief's fan.

[Spider]

This thread is obvious .Someone stiff Zach or some other chief fan on abet , so Zach wanted to make a big show about Paying off is the right thing to do ......Pure drama queen ..

[Atlas]

http://www.orangemane.com/BB/image.php?u=2341&dateline=1130361819
I know Nolte would say "Gimme my F**king money!!"

[Garcia Bronco]

guys...it's 35 beans

[Atlas]

guys...it's 35 beans
That's about 3 cases of Keystone light

[TheDave]

http://www.orangemane.com/BB/image.php?u=2341&dateline=1130361819
I know Nolte would say "Gimme my ****ing money!!"

Damn straight... then try to make a side deal with Kayla ;)

http://www.orangemane.com/BB/image.php?u=2889&dateline=1135273674

[Rascal]

That's about 3 cases of Keystone light

I would rather drink radioactive water then that crap.

Might as well throw your money away.

[TheDave]

I would rather drink radioactive water then that crap.

Might as well throw your money away.

I'm calling that bluff... anyone got a barrel of radiocative H2O laying around?

[Rascal]

I'm calling that bluff... anyone got a barrel of radiocative H2O laying around?

If you do I'm calling the FBI to arrest your ass...damn science teachers. LOL

[Atlas]

If you do I'm calling the FBI to arrest your ass...damn science teachers. LOL

LOL!!!!

I know that since I pay the bar bill I drink the cheap stuff. It's all about the bottom line.

[Bronco LB 59]

For awhile now, ZachKC has been the most manipulative, sneaky SOB troll on this board. It's good to see other Orange Maners aren't buying his bull****.

[GonzoLays]

For awhile now, ZachKC has been the most manipulative, sneaky SOB troll on this board. It's good to see other Orange Maners aren't buying his bull****.

Shhh, Alec still believes him.

[Spider]

one mans troll is another mans friend .... hell I tried to troll http://www.stormfront.org/forum/ ... didnt get far ... them boys dont like the idea of a black man with a white women.....

[Moon§hiner]

one mans troll is another mans friend .... hell I tried to troll http://www.stormfront.org/forum/ ... didnt get far ... them boys dont like the idea of a black man with a white women.....
Dayum, that's a scarier site than Chiefs Planut....they have almost as many members online right now too.

[Moon§hiner]

BTW Baja, I agree with others that terms should have been agreed too long before this and I think you should take the money and put it towards anything that you choose to instead of being guilted into something.

[Spider]

Dayum, that's a scarier site than Chiefs Planut....they have almost as many members online right now too.
the #'s are disturbing ......... censorship is the name of the game there ......

[CBF1]

I think he should pay Baja, 37 forever, the omane, and buy beer for all the omaners at the next KC @ Broncos tailgate in Denver just for wasting our time with this thread instead of just paying up the bet.

REP!

[Moon§hiner]

the #'s are disturbing ......... censorship is the name of the game there ......

I agree...there is a difference between patriotism and paranoia unless you consider they both start with the letter "p"...sorry to hijack your thread Zack but it was crap when you started to want to change the rules at the end of the season anyway...heh

[Meck77]

He said he would pay the bet. He was just offering an alternative solution.

Geez, this is a tough room.

Somehow I doubt baja needs the 35 dollars so bad that he would not agree to this. Its Christmas time, 37 Forever is a good cause and its just an ALTERNATIVE, if baja was so inclined.

Ah shove it Alec. You do more to start shiat with people here than anyone.

Have a Merry Christmas

[Rock Chalk]

I think it's a nice gesture on behalf of Zach, but it's something he should have brought up via PM rather than putting it up so everybody can see it. Baja isn't the modest/influenceable type so it won't be a big deal, but somebody could feel a little obligated, being that this is on the front page with everybody viewing it. One might feel a bit guilty for saying give me the $$$ on this type of forum.

Good though Zach, next time do it in private.
You do make a good point, it probably should have been in PM, all I was saying is that it seems like everyone is ripping on him for what I think...or at least what came off to me anyway, as a genuinely sincere gesture. I know Zach, sometimes he gets on my nerves, but I do not think his intent was to corner baja in a decision.

Just my opinion.

Nor would I, nor anyone else I should think, think less of baja if he took the money and did not choose to donate it. He made a bet and won and the money is rightfully his to do with as he will.

I just do not see any reason to get down on Zach for this, except perhaps to say (psst, Zach, ask him this in PM).

[Meck77]

Sigh.........Remember when the Raiders were good and Raider week meant hating on the Raiders? Now headline news is how is Baja going to get paid...lol

GO BRONCOS!

[Rock Chalk]

Sigh.........Remember when the Raiders were good and Raider week meant hating on the Raiders? Now headline news is how is Baja going to get paid...lol

GO BRONCOS!
I do miss the past Raider weeks.

The internet made them very fun.

[Crushaholic]

We have a payback of a different kind coming Saturday. Al Davis' band of misfits need to be paid back for last year's snow game. Raiders, in which hole do you want it shoved?

Just...Offering Options...

[Rock Chalk]

I miss TNS.

[Arkie]

one mans troll is another mans friend .... hell I tried to troll http://www.stormfront.org/forum/ ... didnt get far ... them boys dont like the idea of a black man with a white women.....

That's one hateful site by a bunch of subhumans! Their James Dungy thread is sickening.

[Rock Chalk]

Ah shove it Alec. You do more to start shiat with people here than anyone.

Have a Merry Christmas
I have a funny story for you Meck.

Notice my name got shortened?

Well, couple of days ago I asked ole Taco in instant message if I could change my name to something more descriptive to my character and proceeded to give an example and the same time as he did. Ironically it was the same example: Asshole.

We got a good laugh about that and decided just to shorten it to Alec.

Anyway, have a merry Christmas brother, may your holiday be blessed

[hades]

Pay him $35.00 in pennies

[Moon§hiner]

That's one hateful site by a bunch of subhumans! Their James Dungy thread is sickening.

Kind of like most team B-boards... (Chief/Raiders/Broncos, etc suck) they can get pretty hateful...they just discriminate in a different way...and no, I'm not apologizing for them at all, but they just reflect society in general in the way that the keyboard allows them to speak their minds and talk tough with no reprecussions....freedom of speech sucks sometimes but I don't want it to change...it's more fun to read fools and hope they don't get more recruits....a lot of fools in this old world already.

[Spider]

Ha! our very own the Dave trolled them .... he was slapping up interacial porn ...... Far better then what I did ...... I was banned right away .........

[TheDave]

Ha! our very own the Dave trolled them .... he was slapping up interacial porn ...... Far better then what I did ...... I was banned right away .........

They seemed to be so freaked out about their "Race" being "Diluted"... had to give them a little show and tell!

[Spider]

They seemed to be so freaked out about their "Race" being "Diluted"... had to give them a little show and tell!
LOL ...... that was a classic ......... but somthing tells me you wont get an invite to the KKK/Neo Nazi christmas Party ........

[Blueflame]

Sigh.........Remember when the Raiders were good and Raider week meant hating on the Raiders? Now headline news is how is Baja going to get paid...lol

GO BRONCOS!

Yeah, it's sad how Raider Week has morphed into Raider Weak.... :P

[ZachKC]

He said he would pay the bet. He was just offering an alternative solution.

Geez, this is a tough room.

Somehow I doubt baja needs the 35 dollars so bad that he would not agree to this. Its Christmas time, 37 Forever is a good cause and its just an ALTERNATIVE, if baja was so inclined.
Someone actually read what I was writing...

[ZachKC]

For awhile now, ZachKC has been the most manipulative, sneaky SOB troll on this board. It's good to see other Orange Maners aren't buying his bull****.
So says my personal internet stalker...heh

[ZachKC]

Part of the decision to make this as a thread and not a PM was to throw out the name of the foundation...if a few people can check it out or read the story then thats great. I will take all the heat in the world for this thread if that happens.

Baja is welcome to PM me with his answer...no hard feelings either way. Seriously.

[Spider]

That's one hateful site by a bunch of subhumans! Their James Dungy thread is sickening.
Sure is . we tried to troll it , but they believe they are the only ones entitled to free speech...... Hate to think some of those Idiots can vote .......

[Phobia]

ZachKC is just being the b**** that he is. He can't help it. He loses a bet and tries to make the winner feel bad about collecting his money. There is no honor about what he is doing and quite frankly, I expected nothing less of Chief's fan.

I agree, Zach should have set those terms in the beginning. But I'm sure he's going to pay up anyway. $35 out of his pocket is still $35 - he just wanted to spread a little goodwill during the holiday. Since he's a Chiefs fan pimping what appears to be a Chiefs charity, he's attacked. Quite frankly, I expected nothing less of Dunkey fans.

If Zach were a better manipulator he'd have suggested an Elway charity.

[orange crusher]

Someone actually read what I was writing...

Just because people didn't agree with the way you approached settling your bet with Baja doesn't mean we didn't read what you wrote. I can appreciate you wanting to get information on the Foundation out there, but why weren't you trying to do that when you made the bet?

[Phobia]

If Zach doesn't pay it, I will.

[FADERPROOF]

Someone actually read what I was writing...


More like someone bought into your bull****.

[FADERPROOF]

I agree, Zach should have set those terms in the beginning. But I'm sure he's going to pay up anyway. $35 out of his pocket is still $35 - he just wanted to spread a little goodwill during the holiday. Since he's a Chiefs fan pimping what appears to be a Chiefs charity, he's attacked. Quite frankly, I expected nothing less of Dunkey fans.

If Zach were a better manipulator he'd have suggested an Elway charity.

Yeah, we don't agree since it's a Chiefs charity, are you ****ing dumb or something?

[ZachKC]

Just because people didn't agree with the way you approached settling your bet with Baja doesn't mean we didn't read what you wrote. I can appreciate you wanting to get information on the Foundation out there, but why weren't you trying to do that when you made the bet?
Didn't even think of it. It came to mind when he made me aware of the bet. His answer will be in private so I am trying understand how I could guilt anything here...

Besides that...I am not the only one who was considering different terms than the orig idea when the bet was meade. Baja was talking about buying champ jerseys this morning...

If he wants the 35 it is his. I am not 24champbailey. :approve:

[Phobia]

Yeah, we don't agree since it's a Chiefs charity, are you ****ing dumb or something?

Actually, yes. I am dumb. Quite frankly it's because I'm a Chiefs fan.

[ZachKC]

What an awful guilt trip I am putting on Baja when he responds in a PM and nobody knows which way he went but me and him.

[orange crusher]

What an awful guilt trip I am putting on Baja when he responds in a PM and nobody knows which way he went but me and him.

You asked for people's opinions and you got them.

[Crushaholic]

Actually, yes. I am dumb. Quite frankly it's because I'm a Chiefs fan.

No, it's the racoon hat...:clown:

[ZachKC]

You asked for people's opinions and you got them.
When was this?

[orange crusher]

When was this?

Why else would you start a thread instead of sending a PM?

[Moon§hiner]

Why else would you start a thread instead of sending a PM?

Zach hasn't been getting enough attention lately obviously

[Atlas]

Someone actually read what I was writing...

Why should you donate Baja's money?? Donate your own money.

[ZachKC]

Why else would you start a thread instead of sending a PM?
It was a great chance to expose more people to the charity and the person it is for. At no point did I ask for the opinions of others.

[ZachKC]

Why should you donate Baja's money?? Donate your own money.
At no point will the money go to a place the person sending doesn't want it to go.

[Darkhawk24]

The money could be sent to the Jon Lynch Foundation if they want it to go to a charity. ;)

[Moon§hiner]

True...all bettors should have an option
http://www.johnlynchfoundation.org/

[Moon§hiner]

www.helpmoonshiner.support.his.beerhabit.com

[Atlas]

At no point will the money go to a place the person sending doesn't want it to go.

Well, the option would be better if you offered to match Baja's $35 with your own $35. Giving a charity Baja's $35 is redicules.

[Phobia]

Spelling is redicules, too.