Bronco/Faid Analysis/Predictions

[Atlas]

I have looked at the schedule and the games and have went through this game and I just can't see any senario where the Faid wins. I do believe that with their D line they could slow down the running game but unless Plummer has a complete meltdown Denver should be able to move the ball through the air. The Oakland offense is sputtering badly and I really like Denver's defense matching up against Collins.
I was going to say 27-14 but again is Oakland going to be able to get 14 points???

This isn't last years Bronco team and I believe they have learned a valuable lesson in last years game. Saturday they lay the wood to Oakland.

Atlas's prediction
Denver 30 Oakland 7

[DBroncos4life]

I will always have a hard time down playing any game vs another afc west team. The Raiders could be 0-13 but I still think they will give us a game.

[Atlas]

I will always have a hard time down playing any game vs another afc west team. The Raiders could be 0-13 but I still think they will give us a game.

OK so WTF is your prediction! LOL

[SoCalBronco]

Denver 29 Oakland 16

[GreatBronco16]

31-10 Denver.

[Raider Bill]

I predict Lechler's leg will get tired.:stuck:

[Atlas]

I predict Lechler's leg will get tired.:stuck:Hey Raider Bill. Did the Black Hole send you here as the lone sacrificial lamb??

Lechler will probably have a 58 yard average

[DBroncos4life]

OK so WTF is your prediction! LOL


I can't predict. I would just like to see us play a little better then we have in the last few games, other then the second half of the Bills game. Its a game that we should win, I will go that far.

[Raider Bill]

Eh, Im not going to puss out now, since I was kicking you guys when you were down.

Im like the only one on the Raider boards who didnt want Moss in the first place, wanted Demarcus Ware, Odell Thurman and some FA interior OL help.

[Clockwork Orange]

Im like the only one on the Raider boards who didnt want Moss in the first place, wanted Demarcus Ware, Odell Thurman and some FA interior OL help.

Let me just say, as a Bronco fan, that I'm very glad that you're not the GM in Oakland.

[Raider Bill]

These dopes keep defending Moss.

I ask, how did he make the team demonstrably better? Give me something.


Ahhh fugggit. Im getting all pissed off again.

[broncofan]

Eh, Im not going to puss out now, since I was kicking you guys when you were down.

Im like the only one on the Raider boards who didnt want Moss in the first place, wanted Demarcus Ware, Odell Thurman and some FA interior OL help.

I'm sure at some point you will be happy that you have Moss. That squad will be dangerous if they can tighten up their coaching situation and get on the same page.

Seeing as though it's a divisional game, I can see the Raiders briefly showing signs of life against us, but not much more. They hardly worry me right now.

35-13.

[watermock]

These dopes keep defending Moss.

I ask, how did he make the team demonstrably better? Give me something.


Ahhh fugggit. Im getting all pissed off again.

The HornHeads stuck you with an injured malcontent you you bit hook line and sinker...it's pretty funny...

[Bronco Bob]

I can't predict. I would just like to see us play a little better then we have in the last few games, other then the second half of the Bills game. Its a game that we should win, I will go that far.

I would like to see the Broncos play the first half like they did against the
Jests and the second half like they did against the Jills.

[watermock]

I told these fools Moss had a chronic ankle and hammy, but the media acted like it was some steal...

remember when I told you that the Vikings dumped expensive baggage?

Now Harris and Williamson have sucked, but Moss is off the books and has been a total bust there...

[watermock]

I think Bronco Billy would do better than that playcaling in the first half..,.I'm still mad Bang shipped Billy off without compensation...that was tampering...

[DBroncos4life]

I would like to see the Broncos play the first half like they did against the
Jests and the second half like they did against the Jills.


I was thinking somewhere along the lines of the Pats/Philly first half and the Chargers second half.

[baja]

I just hope the O line comes to play because the fade would like nothing better than to knock Plummer out.

[Rausch]

I predict a clean sweep.


Choke-land goes 0-6 in division games...

[listopencil]

I predict a clean sweep.


Choke-land goes 0-6 in division games...


Heh. I didn't even think of that until you mentioned it. Outstanding!

[meangene]

Denver 27
Fade 17

[Mediator12]

Realistically, 23-13.

Offense will have several good series getting 160+ yards and two TD's, and then sputter late as usual. Same thing with the defense giving up 100 yards and a TD late with nothing on the line. I swear the way these guys have played fits this formula almost every week.

[Mile High Shack]

I can't ever predict a Bronco win, I just can't bring myself to do it

Fade 27
Broncos 21

[jmz313]

I'm worried it will be a 17-14 game and I can't put a finger on the winner. Oakland needs to accomplish something this year and being 7-0 at home has this game pinned as the home game we forget to play hard for 60 minutes and lose. I'm hoping that game was sopposed to be the ravens game untill boller turned it on.

But I'm always pestimistic againist AFCw teams.

[Atlas]

Here is a good article about last years game. I forgot that Drougns fumbled twice that game... All I remembered was the block of Elam's FG...GRRRRRRRRRRR....

SoCals link: http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/nfl/article/0,2777,DRMN_23918_4331082,00.html

Loss to Raiders is 2004-gotten
Broncos not dwelling on meltdown in snow


By Jeff Legwold, Rocky Mountain News

ENGLEWOOD - What happens in '04 stays in '04.
And with the Oakland Raiders making a holiday visit and Denver looking for a little playoff jackpot, 2004 is exactly where the Broncos would like to keep the teams' previous late-season meeting.

"Last year was last year," Broncos cornerback Champ Bailey said. "Whatever happened last year was last year. We've got a new team, this is a new situation and that's what matters. We want to leave the rest behind."

It's no wonder. The Raiders are the most recent team to beat the Broncos at home, 25-24 in a snowstorm last November.

It was a game the Broncos led 24-13 in the fourth quarter but failed to close the deal. A game in which former Broncos running back Reu- ben Droughns fumbled twice, in which the Broncos didn't convert a third-and-1 with 4 minutes, 40 seconds to play that would have kept the ball from the Raiders.

A game in which the Raiders blocked a 43-yard field-goal attempt by Jason Elam with 31 seconds to play that would have won the game.

"I'll never forget that," Broncos safety John Lynch said. "It was one of the most disappointing games I've ever played in. I think we were up 11 points with 8 minutes to go and lose at home. So that's fresh in our minds."

The loss, one of two by the Broncos at Invesco Field at Mile High in 2004, also effectively put them on the road for the playoffs, a route that ended with a crushing defeat in Indianapolis in a wild-card game.

And this season, the stakes are a little higher for the Broncos. The Raiders visit Saturday (2:15 p.m., CBS 4) with the Broncos needing a win to lock up their first AFC West title since 1998 and to keep on track for the No. 2 seed in the AFC and the first-round bye that comes with it.

"What you came away with is you give up big plays and you give them a little hope," Bailey said. "You can't blame it on anything other than we didn't make the plays we had to. They had to play in the weather like we did; there's no excuses. But this is a confident team.

"We understand what's in front of us."

The Raiders will arrive with a 4-9 record, including a 31-17 loss against the Broncos in early November, well out of the playoff race and with coach Norv Turner answering questions about his future.

Oakland entered the 2004 game also out of the playoff race, but quarterback Kerry Collins threw for 339 yards and four touchdowns, three to receiver Jerry Porter.

Porter (135) and Ronald Curry (110) finished with 100-yard receiving games. And it was in the fourth quarter that Collins made confetti of the Broncos pass defense.

In that final quarter, Collins completed 12 of 17 passes for 190 yards and two touchdowns, a total that included completions of 63, 52 and 21 yards.

"What we did a year ago was beat ourselves," Broncos defensive coordinator Larry Coyer said. "They played good, I can't take anything away from them. They came in here and beat our butt. The quarterback threw the ball, they caught the ball, but we gave them cheap plays. . . .

"They came in, we gave them confidence and they kicked our butt. They got us, and it was major."

The Broncos again are hurting some in the secondary, with cornerback Darrent Williams out because of a pulled right groin and safety Curome Cox, who has played as the fifth defensive back in Williams' absence, dealing with a sore left shoulder.

Cox practiced Tuesday and the Broncos expect him to play.

There is also the added factor of Randy Moss in the Raiders offense. Moss still was a Minnesota Vikings receiver in 2004.

Though he and Collins haven't always meshed this season - Moss caught only one pass, a 28-yard touchdown, during the Raiders' 9-7 loss Sunday against the Cleveland Browns - Moss still demands attention.

"Moss and Porter, that's a pretty good start right there," Coyer said. "They are skilled."

The Raiders are the third consecutive team the Broncos will face that is out of the playoff race, with Denver having already beaten the Baltimore Ravens and Buffalo Bills.

Broncos coach Mike Shanahan said he brought up the 2004 game once, to remind the players of what happened.

"You don't dwell on (last year's loss)," Shanahan said. "We talked about them coming into our backyard and beating us at home after we dominated the game the first time."

"This game is what we concentrate on," Bailey said. "Not the last game, not last week, not next week, not two weeks from now, none of that. This game. What's in the present is what we can do something about. That last one is gone and we know what happened. That's all that needs to be said."

[OrangeShadow]

denver 31 oakland 9

seriously its in OUR house,we need to win out to get the 2 seed, we are undefeated at home. what more motivation do we freaking need?

[Smiling Assassin27]

31-17 Good Guys

[enjolras]

Broncos: 98
Raiders: -42

Broncos are moving to put it over the century mark when Al Davis tackles Sapp as he runs along the Raider side-line by clubbing him with his walker as time runs out.

[Atlas]

Broncos: 98
Raiders: -42

Broncos are moving to put it over the century mark when Al Davis tackles Sapp as he runs along the Raider side-line by clubbing him with his walker as time runs out.

LOL!!! It would be great to see Denver put 50 on the Faiders.

[missingnumber7]

41-16....Moss has his only catch go for a TD. Champ outscores the Fade by himself.

[Odysseus]

Broncos are going 8-0 at home this year. Believe it.

[Paladin]

I believe it was Spider who suggested that when the Broncos make their first TD, all the fans in the stadium should stop a moment and look up at the box where Greasy Al is sitting and yell, in unison: JUMP!!!!!

That has always seemed appropriate to me.

[ludo21]

35-17, but FAde make it close till the end.

[Rigs11]

Broncs 31
Fade 13

[No1BroncoFan]

24-23 Broncos. Jake throws a TD in the closing minutes to win the game.

They may suck, but they're still the Raiders. I can't even remember all the times that their team or ours has been having a sh*tty season, yet the Bronco/Raider games are almost always close, hard fought games.

I'd love to see a blow-out (in our favor of course) and the pieces for one are there, but I just don't see it happening.

Ben

[terry251973]

1 2 3 4 F
Den 14 10 6 7 37
Oak 0 7 3 7 17

[The Big E]

Eh, Im not going to puss out now, since I was kicking you guys when you were down.

Im like the only one on the Raider boards who didnt want Moss in the first place, wanted Demarcus Ware, Odell Thurman and some FA interior OL help.
Damn, I think you're the only Faider fan I've seen here all week (or the last 2 months for that matter). What has this rivarly come to?

Denver 27
Oakland 13

[AlphaOmega]

Broncos 24
Raiders 10
:egbgb:

[dbroncos31]

the fade keeps it close, but our running game just wears them down and we run away with it in the 4th...its like 17-7 at the half, but the final is 37-14

[kamakazi_kal]

denver 33 - fade 10
:raiderssu :clap:

[24champ]

35-0. Dont see the faid scoring.

Not to hijack the thread but I dont feel this warrants me to start a new thread.....(sighs) One of my little cousins who is 11 years old and really loves the raiders regardless of how they are doing this year and we poke alot of fun at each others team. However this little guy doesnt have a raiders jersey and he really wants one sooooo I sucked it up and bought him a raiders jersey( #18 moss bleh). Im sorry but im also stoked about seeing his face when he sees what I got him.

[bronco610]

35-0. Dont see the faid scoring.

Not to hijack the thread but I dont feel this warrants me to start a new thread.....(sighs) One of my little cousins who is 11 years old and really loves the raiders regardless of how they are doing this year and we poke alot of fun at each others team. However this little guy doesnt have a raiders jersey and he really wants one sooooo I sucked it up and bought him a raiders jersey( #18 moss bleh). Im sorry but im also stoked about seeing his face when he sees what I got him.
tHATS IT iM REPORTING YOU TO CHILD PROTECTIVE SERVICES !!!
Denver 34 oakland 10

[watermock]

Knowing what that team will do is like throwing small bones onto a barrell in an alley like that guy in Predator...you just have to take one at a time......

Get the W and prepare for SD....I don't care what the score is....

[Spider]

Throw the records out the windows , give the refs arm slings they will need it expect 20 + flags to be thrown .........
Raiders playing for pride , have nothing to lose , expect a wide open offense and gadget plays .......
Denver wins a wild one 31-17 .......

[fontaine]

Denver wins
27-20

The Faders are missing Woodsen and I think missing depth at CB as well as missing their Safeties.

It's a game tailor made for Lelie to try and get deep and torch that secondary at home but who knows with this kid.

I certainly look forward to seeing what Jeb and Duke can do against a banged up secondary.

[Paladin]

27-10. Broncos win.

[Atlas]

Not to hijack the thread but I dont feel this warrants me to start a new thread.....(sighs) One of my little cousins who is 11 years old and really loves the raiders regardless of how they are doing this year and we poke alot of fun at each others team. However this little guy doesnt have a raiders jersey and he really wants one sooooo I sucked it up and bought him a raiders jersey( #18 moss bleh). Im sorry but im also stoked about seeing his face when he sees what I got him.

Should have bought him a Bailey jersey he is still young enough to save.

[Disco Man]

23-10 good guys

[Atlas]

So Far this is what we got.

Atlas 30-7
SoCal 29-16
GreatBronco16 31-10
Viva La Pat 35-13
Meanegene 27-17
Mediator12 23-13
Milehighshack 21-27
JMZ313 17-14
Orangeshadow 31-9
SmilingAssasin27 31-17
Enjolras 98-(-42)
Missing#7 41-16
Ludo21 35-17
Riggs11 31-13
No.1Broncos fan 24-23
Terry251973 37-17
TheBigE 27-13
AlphaOmega 24-10
dBroncos31 37-14
Kamakazi Kal 33-10
24Champbailey 35-0
Bronco610 34-10
Spider 31-17
Fontain 27-20
Paladin 27-10
Disco 23-10
brncsfan 28-10
rascal 0-5000

[brncs_fan]

Pencil me in for the wake-up game for the Broncos:

28-10 (raiders will score in final two minutes)

[Rascal]

We will lose 5000-0.

[The Big E]

Should have bought him a Bailey jersey he is still young enough to save.
Hey Atlas, any way you can get that fine young lady in your avatar delivered under my xmas tree? I swear I've been very good this year, and I'll never ask for anything ever again.:angel:

I can arrange to have Santa swing by and pick her up for delivery. On second thought, that dirty old bastard will have her bouncing on his lap in no time. (Santa smack is ok, isn't it?)

[Master___Pain]

Hey Atlas, any way you can get that fine young lady in your avatar delivered under my xmas tree? I swear I've been very good this year, and I'll never ask for anything ever again.:angel:

I can arrange to have Santa swing by and pick her up for delivery. On second thought, that dirty old bastard will have her bouncing on his lap in no time. (Santa smack is ok, isn't it?)

I had a similar type question Atlas. Is Ms Cole and, ahem, actress?

Oh and
broncos 503
raiders 1

[Woody]

I sure hope the last two games were a wake up. :coach:
41-3 Broncos :thumbs:

Shanny finishes the game with BVP on the last two drives to stick it to Darth AL.

BVP makes a TD pass.

[loborugger]

Broncos 24
Raiders 21

Its a rivalry. Records/season success often dont matter.

I expect the Raiders to be just as up for this game as we are. Afterall, this is their chance to to put a real crimp into our post season plans.

[orinjkrush]

with our pass defense....oakland...28

broncos....who the hell knows? i hope for >30

[Merlin]

Its a rivalry, and they will play better against Denver, however, Shanny is still pissed about last yr. 34-17 Denver (late TD by Raiders).

[baja]

35 - 7

[Elway 4 Life]

28-0

Our defense gets shutout #2

[JPEZ]

Nothing like crushing 2 AFC West division rivals before a strong playoff run! :thumbs: :Broncos:

2005 AFC West Champion Denver Broncos 31
Oakland Raiders 14

[watermock]

Oakland games are literally impossible to predict, but I will take a stab at it...

BTW, what happened to the Faider Trolls...even Next Step has vanished...

I'm picking Oakland, 24-21...



Heh...Denver 31-23 it won't be as close as the final score...it will be 31-14 till we give up a late sympathy TD....

[Rashid242]

I told these fools Moss had a chronic ankle and hammy, but the media acted like it was some steal...

remember when I told you that the Vikings dumped expensive baggage?

Now Harris and Williamson have sucked, but Moss is off the books and has been a total bust there...


He's the the second best player in the division behind only LT.

He's was fine before he got nicked with 476 yards the first 4 games.

He was a steal & still on his way to the Hall of Fame.

[watermock]

He's got a chronic ankle...Now he has a shoulder/groin...what do I know about Moss? Did you see him every week? Not only does he totally take plays off worse than Bob Hayes, but's got lingering injury, and is in the sunny confines of california...

Let me ask you this...where are all the "experts" that said Oakland would turn it all around with Moss, Collins and Foster?

Or the experts that said Bronco Billy wasn't an Idiot Savant?

Fact is, we are 11-3, Oakland is 4-10. I could care less about Randy Moss...he's a dimwit to boot.

[Atlas]

So Far this is what we got.

Atlas 30-7
SoCal 29-16
GreatBronco16 31-10
Viva La Pat 35-13
Meanegene 27-17
Mediator12 23-13
Milehighshack 21-27
JMZ313 17-14
Orangeshadow 31-9
SmilingAssasin27 31-17
Enjolras 98-(-42)
Missing#7 41-16
Ludo21 35-17
Riggs11 31-13
No.1Broncos fan 24-23
Terry251973 37-17
TheBigE 27-13
AlphaOmega 24-10
dBroncos31 37-14
Kamakazi Kal 33-10
24Champbailey 35-0
Bronco610 34-10
Spider 31-17
Fontain 27-20
Paladin 27-10
Disco 23-10
brncsfan 28-10
rascal 0-5000
Master Pain 503-1
Woody 41-3
Peter King 27-16
Loborugger 24-21
Merlin 34-17
Baja 35-7
Elway 4 Life 28-0
Jpez 31-14
Watermock 31-23
Kahn 34-17
Harmon forcast 28-14
Vinnie Iyer 35-14
Jim Armstrong 41-17
Mark Kiszla 31-13
Thomas George 31-10
Mike Klis 26-7
Bill Williamson 31-14
Billy Beane 31-17

[Kaylore]

The Fade put on a good showing but like always impload by the third quarter. We play solid start to finish, and give up a couple garbage TD's deep.

Broncos: 34
Fade: 17

[Atlas]

SoCals link: http://www.sportingnews.com/yourturn/viewtopic.php?t=46736

LOCK OF THE WEEK
Denver over Oakland. The Broncos have everything clicking again. Jake Plummer has stayed in a mistake-free groove, taking advantage of the team's powerful two-headed running game with Mike Anderson and Tatum Bell to make big plays of his own. Now here come the Raiders, an archrival for which Denver's players and coach Mike Shanahan have no love. You think the Broncos will let up at home? And oh yeah, defensively, the Broncos stuff the run, and a toe injury is likely to sideline LaMont Jordan, the Raiders' only consistent offensive threat. Broncos 35, Raiders 14.

[Atlas]

http://extras.mnginteractive.com/live/media/site36/2005/1222/20051222_075537_Bscout122305.jpg

[Atlas]

So Far this is what we got.

Atlas 30-7
SoCal 29-16
GreatBronco16 31-10
Viva La Pat 35-13
Meanegene 27-17
Mediator12 23-13
Milehighshack 21-27
JMZ313 17-14
Orangeshadow 31-9
SmilingAssasin27 31-17
Enjolras 98-(-42)
Missing#7 41-16
Ludo21 35-17
Riggs11 31-13
No.1Broncos fan 24-23
Terry251973 37-17
TheBigE 27-13
AlphaOmega 24-10
dBroncos31 37-14
Kamakazi Kal 33-10
24Champbailey 35-0
Bronco610 34-10
Spider 31-17
Fontain 27-20
Paladin 27-10
Disco 23-10
brncsfan 28-10
rascal 0-5000
Master Pain 503-1
Woody 41-3
Peter King 27-16
Loborugger 24-21
Merlin 34-17
Baja 35-7
Elway 4 Life 28-0
Jpez 31-14
Watermock 31-23
Kahn 34-17
Harmon forcast 28-14
Vinnie Iyer 35-14
Jim Armstrong 41-17
Mark Kiszla 31-13
Thomas George 31-10
Mike Klis 26-7
Bill Williamson 31-14
Billy Beane 31-17


Well, it was a Bronco blowout and out of 46 predictions no one got the correct score..... Way to go guys!!!LOL

[24champ]

Well, it was a Bronco blowout and out of 46 predictions no one got the correct score..... Way to go guys!!!LOL
Disco was the closest i think, I knew the faid would have problems with their offense as long as KFC is QB. (17-41 179 yards or whatever?)

[Bronx33]

So Far this is what we got.

Atlas 30-7
SoCal 29-16
GreatBronco16 31-10
Viva La Pat 35-13
Meanegene 27-17
Mediator12 23-13
Milehighshack 21-27
JMZ313 17-14
Orangeshadow 31-9
SmilingAssasin27 31-17
Enjolras 98-(-42)
Missing#7 41-16
Ludo21 35-17
Riggs11 31-13
No.1Broncos fan 24-23
Terry251973 37-17
TheBigE 27-13
AlphaOmega 24-10
dBroncos31 37-14
Kamakazi Kal 33-10
24Champbailey 35-0
Bronco610 34-10
Bronx33 22-3
Spider 31-17
Fontain 27-20
Paladin 27-10
Disco 23-10
brncsfan 28-10
rascal 0-5000

;D

[orinjkrush]

with our pass defense....oakland...28

broncos....who the hell knows? i hope for >30

damn i suck at predictions. like a lot of other knowitalls around here i guess.

:dunk

i was amazed at how kerry collins kept putting the ball in his receivers hands all game long though.

[Rausch]

Heh. I didn't even think of that until you mentioned it. Outstanding!

Well, I made it happen.

Now give me beer...:threadjac