Reggie Bush or Adrian Peterson

[SoonerBronco]

This was in a 6 page thread below, so I thought a poll might be in order. If we could sell the farm for a number 1 Draft pick, would you rather have Reggie Bush this year, or Adrian Peterson next year...???

Everyone knows my choice...

Sorry I can't type this afternoon! Buch...sheesh

[SAGE]

Reggie Bush.........



Develop him.....then trade him to the Redskins for a first round pick and Sean Taylor.

[DBroncos4life]

2200 yards total rushing, 20tds, and 4.5 yard per carry avg for the team and we need to sell the farm to get a RB. :alghh:

[Pat Bowlen]

Yeah, it's not going to happen. Regardless:

http://www.arkcity.net/images/100305/lphoto2.jpg

[Smiling Assassin27]

Bush without reservation. He can accomplish all that Portis would've had he stayed in this system.

[SoonerBronco]

2200 yards total rushing, 20tds, and 4.5 yard per carry avg for the team and we need to sell the farm to get a RB. :alghh:

No, just saying if we did. Heres the deal, Denver's system makes RB's look great...with the exception of TD and maybe Portis, all the other backs were plug in 1000 yard season types. How much more would production increase if you put the next great running back in that system from day one?

[DBroncos4life]

No, just saying if we did. Heres the deal, Denver's system makes RB's look great...with the exception of TD and maybe Portis, all the other backs were plug in 1000 yard season types. How much more would production increase if you put the next great running back in that system from day one?


Well I would agree with you but had Reub not been a fullback for the first 4-6 games last year and MA having 900 plus yards while another back on our team has 800 plus yards. The team is running and running well.

[maven]

I'd take neither. Not worth the cost to go out & get them.

[SoonerBronco]

http://www.blackathlete.net/Images/blackbox/apeterson1.jpg

http://www.augustachronicle.com/images/headlines/100304/34559_512.jpg

I like the pic Pat!

[Pat Bowlen]

If we're going to play "What if?" we should be talking about elite QBs, something I think would go much farther to increasing offensive production than even the best RB.

[Jens1893]

Right now Bush is a no brainer.

[The Big E]

If we're going to play "What if?" we should be talking about elite QBs, something I think would go much farther to increasing offensive production than even the best RB.
Or WRs.

[DBroncos4life]

If we're going to play "What if?" we should be talking about elite QBs, something I think would go much farther to increasing offensive production than even the best RB.
How about a ellite pass rusher and a ballhawking saftey. Another WR to go over the middle would be nice too.

[Pat Bowlen]

Oh, sure, there are plenty of positions we could upgrade at. I love jake to death but sometimes I just can't help but think about how much more efficient and successful our offense would be if we had a guy who could make all the throws.

[epicSocialism4tw]

Right now Bush is a no brainer.

Nah...you must not have seen AD very much.

Adrian Peterson is a bonafide freak of nature. He's faster than Bush and far more powerful. When AD comes to the league, there should be no doubt about his draft position. He'll go first.

AD runs alot like Earl Campbell and Jim Brown with more speed. AD will hit a guy just to flatten him instead of running around him as though he's bored with the secondary.

Bush is an all-purpose guy like Faulk. He looks solid as well as a threat from multiple positions.

I'll take Peterson though because his talent level is higher and he provides both unmatched speed and unique power as a back.

AD is a freak.

[NaptownChief]

I like Mike Peterson's little brother as a RB but since he hasn't been able to beat out Thomas Jones in Chicago would definitely have me taking Bush.

[SoonerBronco]

Nah...you must not have seen AD very much.

Adrian Peterson is a bonafide freak of nature. He's faster than Bush and far more powerful. When AD comes to the league, there should be no doubt about his draft position. He'll go first.

AD runs alot like Earl Campbell and Jim Brown with more speed. AD will hit a guy just to flatten him instead of running around him as though he's bored with the secondary.

Bush is an all-purpose guy like Faulk. He looks solid as well as a threat from multiple positions.

I'll take Peterson though because his talent level is higher and he provides both unmatched speed and unique power as a back.

AD is a freak.

Couldn't have said it any better...

[Rascal]

Did Peterson declare or something?

[FantomForce]

Damn I forgot about Peterson he fell off the NCAA with all the talk about Bush but is still one hell of a player, although I take Bush becasue I believe he gives a better all around game into the mix

[elsid13]

Either is great but I giving a little edge to Peterson, due to his size ability to run people over.

[Pat Bowlen]

I like Mike Peterson's little brother as a RB but since he hasn't been able to beat out Thomas Jones in Chicago would definitely have me taking Bush.
Was this funny in your head before you posted it?

[watermock]

It's total mental masterbation...

Look at players we might have a shot at instead of this stupidity

[Odysseus]

Right now Bush is a no brainer.

I'll tell you where I hid Osama's body if you bring the Broncos Reggie.

[watermock]

If someone want's to say something halfway intelligent, they should be talking around 17-29 intead of this baloney..Why is this even being discussed...Talk about somthing that has even a remte chance of happening...

[Pat Bowlen]

Hey guys, what do you think the odds of watermock getting hammered on moonshine and filling the board with tripe about his cat are?

[DBroncos4life]

Hey guys, what do you think the odds of watermock getting hammered on moonshine and filling the board with tripe about his cat are?
whats better then 100%?

[SoonerBronco]

Was this funny in your head before you posted it?

ROTFLMAO!ROFL! :notworthy

[watermock]

Hey guys, what do you think the odds of watermock getting hammered on moonshine and filling the board with tripe about his cat are?

Look you dimwitted moron, I'm fed up...first, your a damn imposter, if that isn't amusing enough, my cat comments are for comedy, not fact...third, you don't have a clue about my drinking habits at all. What you offer are insults, accusations and outright plagurism...STFU.

Look at your content...your totatally centered on ME...why am I the center of your attention you dimwit?

[watermock]

Was this funny in your head before you posted it?

Actually, most things ARE funny in your head before you post them, unless your LABF, and take them from BartCop. WTF are you talking about? Your supposed to formulate a post that's funny while your posting? Jesus Christ your a moron.

[Pat Bowlen]

I bet some alcohol would ease all that tension, mock.

[watermock]

maybe a good beating would help yours

[SoonerBronco]

I bet some alcohol would ease all that tension, mock.

A 5th of Jack and Garfield the movie...:laugh:

[watermock]

You honestly want some more beat down?

I will give you plenty.

From your fake handle that is actually insulting, your your snide sarcastic remarks that are anything but funny, you have consistently demonstarted yourself as not only an ass, but a moron.

your takes have absolutely no depth whatsoever as well..,.your just a certified dimwit posing...

[SoonerBronco]

You honestly want some more beat down?

I will give you plenty.

From your fake handle that is actually insulting, your your snide sarcastic remarks that are anything but funny, you have consistently demonstarted yourself as not only an ass, but a moron.

your takes have absolutely no depth whatsoever as well..,.your just a certified dimwit posing...


Chill out...good freakin grief...

[Rock Chalk]

Give me Peterson every day of the week and twice on Sundays (and MOnday nights, sometimes Thanksgiving and sometimes Saturday).

[Northman]

Bush is a all around playmaker, he is far better than Peterson at this point.

[Rock Chalk]

Bush is a all around playmaker, he is far better than Peterson at this point.
Bookmark this.

Bush will never be a top 5 back in the NFL.

Adrian Peterson will lead the league one day in the NFL.

[SoonerBronco]

Bush is a all around playmaker, he is far better than Peterson at this point.

"Far better" is quite a stretch. Like I said...Put Peterson at SC and Bush doesn't see the field.

[Northman]

"Far better" is quite a stretch. Like I said...Put Peterson at SC and Bush doesn't see the field.


You can say that about any good back SB. Hell, put Wally Lundy from UVA in USC's system and he will perform. But, Bush is definitely all that and has on more than one occasion bailed out the Trojans this year. Im sorry to burst your bubble, but Peterson cant do a lot of the things that Bush can and ive seen both these guys play.

[Casper Bronco]

What makes you guys think Adrian Peterson isn't going to come out of this draft? If I were him, I would seriously think about coming out this year. His draft stock is in serious jeopardy more next year then it is this year. I don't think they are going to be able to fix their offensive problems that fast.

[elsid13]

What makes you guys think Adrian Peterson isn't going to come out of this draft? If I were him, I would seriously think about coming out this year. His draft stock is in serious jeopardy more next year then it is this year. I don't think they are going to be able to fix their offensive problems that fast.


He can not come out, he only been out of high school 2 years.

[Elway 4 Life]

Let me preface this by saying I wouldnt give up all our picks for either one.

If i could choose either one I would take Bush. I think Peterson is gonna be a hell of a back but I think Bush has a little more all around talent. When I say this it's like comparing emmitt and barry both are animals but one is just a little better.

[Garcia Bronco]

I think many of you are going to be surprised when you realize Reggie Bush isn't going to be able to pass block worth a **** on the Texans and Niners...and for a time he'll be nothing more than a slash type player. I feel sorry for the kid if he goes to 9er's or Texans. Helll the niners drafted a QB that can't grip the ball.

If I had to take one for our system though....honestly...I don't want either one of them...but had too......I gotta go with Tapp.

[elsid13]

Let me preface this by saying I wouldnt give up all our picks for either one.

If i could choose either one I would take Bush. I think Peterson is gonna be a hell of a back but I think Bush has a little more all around talent. When I say this it's like comparing emmitt and barry both are animals but one is just a little better.

The question is which one going to win you a championship? Peterson is better suited to lead team to the promised land, while Bush is more likely to make the highlight films.

[Elway 4 Life]

The question is which one going to win you a championship? Peterson is better suited to lead team to the promised land, while Bush is more likely to make the highlight films.

I agree to an extent. Bush is like vick, fun to watch but will never be more than that. Not to say that he wont put up good #'s.

[Sodak]

Pass Rush!

[elsid13]

I think many of you are going to be surprised when you realize Reggie Bush isn't going to be able to pass block worth a **** on the Texans and Niners...and for a time he'll be nothing more than a slash type player. I feel sorry for the kid if he goes to 9er's or Texans. Helll the niners drafted a QB that can't grip the ball.

If I had to take one for our system though....honestly...I don't want either one of them...but had too......I gotta go with Tapp.


What heck do you mean Bush is awsome in Madden 06 :devil:

[Play2win]

I'm sure nobody here would want to have the Burden of a Marshal Faulk on their team, either...

[SoonerBronco]

You can say that about any good back SB. Hell, put Wally Lundy from UVA in USC's system and he will perform. But, Bush is definitely all that and has on more than one occasion bailed out the Trojans this year. Im sorry to burst your bubble, but Peterson cant do a lot of the things that Bush can and ive seen both these guys play.

You didn't bust my bubble. I've seen both of them play too.

Peterson can and will do more than Bush in the pros...mark it down.

[Willynowei]

Runningbacks...

Runningbacks are useless. End of discussion.

[epicSocialism4tw]

You didn't bust my bubble. I've seen both of them play too.

Peterson can and will do more than Bush in the pros...mark it down.

In all of my years watching college football, I have never seen a player like Peterson. Bush is great as an all-purpose guy, but Peterson is probably going to be a dominant player in the NFL. He has had some ankle problems this season, but if he overcomes those before entering the draft, he'll be the guy.

He's a complete player. He catches, blocks, and runs to the outside or between the tackles. He's faster than every player on the field and has the body of a small linebacker.

There's a reason why he entered college football with the aura of legend and as the nations #1 recruit. He has always been the best in the country. I dont see that slipping past the NFL scouts. You like Earl Campbell? Jim Brown? Barry Sanders? You'll love Adrian Peterson.

Anyone who sees Oklahoma games with regularity can attest to his outstanding talent level. The guy rips off 80 yard runs where he bowls over defenders, spins, jukes, and carries 4 guys downfield on his back. He's immensely strong, faster than Bush, and supremely athletic. There is simply no comparison in my mind. Peterson's ceiling is out of this world. He has the potential to dominate at the NFL level. Were talking "best of all-time" here. Bush has a great future as well, but he doesnt have the body or the skills that Peterson does. I see him more as a Faulk type of piece in an offense that doesnt feature him. Peterson will be the focal point of every gameplan until he retires.

[SoCalBronco]

They are both outstanding. Tough to choose, but id go with Bush, although Peterson has him beat between the tackles.

[24champ]

Ill pass on both.We dont need either. Just draft some no name guy in the 6-7th round.The next thing you know he is on ESPN highlight reels and is added to the long list of 1,000 yard backs in the bronco organization.

[epicSocialism4tw]

Ill pass on both.We dont need either. Just draft some no name guy in the 6-7th round.The next thing you know he is on ESPN highlight reels and is added to the long list of 1,000 yard backs in the bronco organization.

Put Peterson in our system and watch the records crumble at his feet. Fear a stall in the running game? AD is almost guaranteed positive yardage.

[BroncoBuff]

Hey guys, what do you think the odds of watermock getting hammered on moonshine and filling the board with tripe about his cat are? . . . I bet some alcohol would ease all that tension, mock.

You honestly want some more beat down?

I will give you plenty.

From your fake handle that is actually insulting, your your snide sarcastic remarks that are anything but funny, you have consistently demonstarted yourself as not only an ass, but a moron.

your takes have absolutely no depth whatsoever as well..,.your just a certified dimwit posing...
I'll tell you what I think about this . . . naaah!

[BroncoBuff]

In all of my years watching college football, I have never seen a player like Peterson. ... ... You like Earl Campbell? Jim Brown? Barry Sanders? You'll love Adrian Peterson.

Anyone who sees Oklahoma games with regularity can attest to his outstanding talent level. ... Peterson will be the focal point of every gameplan until he retires.
I guess Peterson fell off my radar this year, but even so - I don't remember him being better than Bush LAST year, either. I'm no expert talent-evaluatur 'er nuthin', but, imho, Bush is the best I've seen since Bo Jackson.

But I'll keep an open mind . . . and take SoonerBronco's advice on this:

I'm telling you, watch the Holiday bowl game...you won't be disappointed.

[Clockwork Orange]

You couldn't go wrong either way, but I'll take Reggie Bush. For heaven's sake, the guy averaged 8.9 yards per carry. 8.9 yards per carry. I know it's college football, but that's off the page even for that level of competition. On top of that, he's also an electrifying kickoff and punt returner. Portis was a home run threat in the Broncos system, just imagine what this guy could do.

[DBroncos4life]

I know those two are younger and have all the potential in the world, but I just don't know how you could make the big move to get them when the NFL MVP is a FA, Shuan Alexander. Hell look at the RBs that are FAs this year, James, Alexander, Lewis, and Green. More often then not those guys are in the top 5 in rushing.

[BroncoBuff]

I know those two are younger and have all the potential in the world, but I just don't know how you could make the big move to get them when the NFL MVP is a FA, Shuan Alexander. Hell look at the RBs that are FAs this year, James, Alexander, Lewis, and Green. More often then not those guys are in the top 5 in rushing.
You have a really good point there - I recall that last offseason, no RBs could get offers . . . the market for RBs is too diluted, I guess. I remember thinking the Browns must've really wanted to dump Gerard Warren and Mike Myers because they took Droughns in the trade - not that Droughns is BAD, just that there were numerous FA RBs around.

Actually it might've been EKUBAN and Myers - but the point's the same.

[Pat Bowlen]

I don't remember him being better than Bush LAST year, either.
Remember when he ran for 2,000 yards and 15 TDs as a true freshman and almost won the Heisman?

[BroncoBuff]

Remember when he ran for 2,000 yards and 15 TDs as a true freshman and almost won the Heisman?
I guess I do . . . but what you also point out here - he's not eligible yet - has he declared?

[Pat Bowlen]

He won't be a junior until next year.

[uk bronco]

reggie all the way but there's no chance we'll take him. It'll be a qb or a wr that we take first round

[footstepsfrom#27]

Is Adrian Peterson even coming out? He was a sophmore last year and coming off a mediocre (for him) year. Unless he's already declared I'm thinking he stays another year.

[SoonerBronco]

Is Adrian Peterson even coming out? He was a sophmore last year and coming off a mediocre (for him) year. Unless he's already declared I'm thinking he stays another year.

I guess I should have cleared that up to begin with...ADRIAN PETERSON WILL BE A JUNIOR NEXT YEAR AND WILL BE ELIGIBLE FOR THE NFL DRAFT IN APRIL 2007 WHERE HE WILL BE THE #1 PICK.

Let me re-phrase the question...if you were Pat Bolen...and you could choose Reggie Bush or Adrian Peterson...which one would you pick?

[Pat Bowlen]

Let me re-phrase the question...if you were Pat Bolen...and you could choose Reggie Bush or Adrian Peterson...which one would you pick?
There's no need for the 'if', I answered the question a few pages back.

[Garcia Bronco]

That's right PB...QB is the way to go.

After much consideration...I have to go with Peterson

[SoonerBronco]

There's no need for the 'if', I answered the question a few pages back.


Sorry Pat...my bad.

[jonny1]

AD runs alot like Earl Campbell and Jim Brown with more speed. AD will hit a guy just to flatten him instead of running around him as though he's bored with the secondary.

Jim Brown had world class speed.

[Play2win]

Do you Want a Marshal Faulk/LT2 or a Stephen Jackson/Ronnie Brown/Ricky Williams (what he used to be)

If you had the choice, which one would it be?!?

[Elway 4 Life]

Do you Want a Marshal Faulk/LT2 or a Stephen Jackson/Ronnie Brown/Ricky Williams (what he used to be)

If you had the choice, which one would it be?!?

tomlinson hands down. In our system he would break every frickin record out there.

[epicSocialism4tw]

Do you Want a Marshal Faulk/LT2 or a Stephen Jackson/Ronnie Brown/Ricky Williams (what he used to be)

If you had the choice, which one would it be?!?

Peterson is none of the above. His skills are more like Earl Campbell.

Your post should read: "Would you want Marshall Faulk / Roger Craig or Earl Campbell / Jim Brown with burning speed?"

[Play2win]

tomlinson hands down. In our system he would break every frickin record out there.
Thats what I am thinking, and that would correlate to Reggie Bush...

Or even more-so, a Marshal Faulk, in his hay-day, would've been unreal in Denver...

[Play2win]

Peterson is none of the above. His skills are more like Earl Campbell.

Your post should read: "Would you want Marshall Faulk / Roger Craig or Earl Campbell / Jim Brown with burning speed?"
Oh, come on, I understand he has a special Size-Power-Speed ratio, BUT Ricky tore thing apart way so many years ago in college. I don't believe Peterson is a "once in a lifetime Back". He has special abilities and I would LOVE to have him here in Denver, But I would also LOVE to have REGGIE here in Denver...

I have watched a hell of alot of BUSH ( :~ohyah!: ) and he has always been a special tallent, but this year he has been atleast effective between tackles, given his other tallents, makes him one of the most deadly runners in the last few decades.

His interior running and strength took a quantum leap this year. I better stop before I start on this subject. I think BUSH is going to be a special tallent in this league, one like we haven't seen for a while...

Both of these Backs would be gamebreakers in our system, I just think BUSH is more multi-dimensional, which Shanahan could translate to more things in this system. Plus, he would make that Safety miss everytime when taking his runs to the second level...

[Play2win]

Peterson is none of the above. His skills are more like Earl Campbell.

Your post should read: "Would you want Marshall Faulk / Roger Craig or Earl Campbell / Jim Brown with burning speed?"
To relate Reggie to Roger Craig is quite a bit of an insult, really thats almost a low-blow...

AND, I've got to see alittle bit more that one good year in college ball from somebody, before I relate him to a few of the best that ever played THE PRO GAME. I'm sorry, but POTENIAL is an overused word...

[epicSocialism4tw]

To relate Reggie to Roger Craig is quite a bit of an insult, really thats almost a low-blow...

AND, I've got to see alittle bit more that one good year in college ball from somebody, before I relate him to a few of the best that ever played THE PRO GAME. I'm sorry, but POTENIAL is an overused word...

One good year? You must have missed all of Peterson's games this season while playing on bad wheels. Peterson is easily the best back in college. I dont see any comparison with a smallish quick guy who makes his living on multi purpose yards. He's a third down back.

Give me Peterson 10 out of 10 times. We're not talking potential here. We're talking about a guy who has always been the best and has continued that throughout his sophomore season despite being hurt since week 1. You'll get a chance to see what a real back looks like when Oklahoma plays your west coast Oregon Ducks on the 29th. He's faster, more powerful, and more dominant than Bush. There's no argument here. You're living in the West Coast world of hype. Bush is solid, but he has nowhere near the college career of Marshall Faulk who you are comparing him to. Faulk was dominant like Peterson is dominant. Peterson will probably own a couple of all-time records before he walks into training camp. He has already pushed the freshman records.

I'll be sure to find this thread in a couple of years.

[Play2win]

One good year? You must have missed all of Peterson's games this season while playing on bad wheels. Peterson is easily the best back in college. I dont see any comparison with a smallish quick guy who makes his living on multi purpose yards. He's a third down back.

Give me Peterson 10 out of 10 times. We're not talking potential here. We're talking about a guy who has always been the best and has continued that throughout his sophomore season despite being hurt since week 1. You'll get a chance to see what a real back looks like when Oklahoma plays your west coast Oregon Ducks on the 29th. He's faster, more powerful, and more dominant than Bush. There's no argument here. You're living in the West Coast world of hype. Bush is solid, but he has nowhere near the college career of Marshall Faulk who you are comparing him to. Faulk was dominant like Peterson is dominant. Peterson will probably own a couple of all-time records before he walks into training camp. He has already pushed the freshman records.

I'll be sure to find this thread in a couple of years.

I'm willing to admit they both will be outstanding. Don't get so headstrong that you think Peterson is going to be better that BUSH no matter what the circumstances are. Thats just silly.

I think BUSH will be better, DEPENDING on the circumstances and situations.

I WILL take Bush, 6 out of 10 times...

[broncofan]

My apologies for fading off topic a bit...but why have I not heard Peterson's name mentioned much, if at all this year? I don't watch college ball, so all I know is what the rumblings are on the streets. Was he injured? Off year overall in Oklahoma?

At this point, based on what I've heard I would say Reggie Bush. But because I wouldn't consider that opinion a very informed one, I chose not to vote in the poll.

[Play2win]

BTW-

I watch a ton of USC games this year, went to the sportsbar for many of them, and I really concentrated on BUSH.

I really watched BUSH because I wasn't sold on him. I wasn't sold on him between the tackles. I wasn't sold on him without LenDale White. BUT, now I am sold on him, because of what I ACTUALLY SAW IN GAME ACTION. He's got IT. He's got the speed, moves, intuition, VISION and toughness and (enough) power to truely be called the complete package.

And I won't even get into his Recieving capabilities and skills...

BUT, still, between BUSH and Peterson, I would take BUSH, but only 6 out of 10 times. Either one would flourish here in Denver... ;D

[Broncoman13]

I'll play this SILLY little game... and yes I do mean SILLY!

Reggie Bush... no Brainer! He'll be better than LT (who I consider the best currently) within three years... maybe even by the end of his 2nd season!!!

[Broncoman13]

One good year? You must have missed all of Peterson's games this season while playing on bad wheels. Peterson is easily the best back in college. I dont see any comparison with a smallish quick guy who makes his living on multi purpose yards. He's a third down back.

Give me Peterson 10 out of 10 times. We're not talking potential here. We're talking about a guy who has always been the best and has continued that throughout his sophomore season despite being hurt since week 1. You'll get a chance to see what a real back looks like when Oklahoma plays your west coast Oregon Ducks on the 29th. He's faster, more powerful, and more dominant than Bush. There's no argument here. You're living in the West Coast world of hype. Bush is solid, but he has nowhere near the college career of Marshall Faulk who you are comparing him to. Faulk was dominant like Peterson is dominant. Peterson will probably own a couple of all-time records before he walks into training camp. He has already pushed the freshman records.

I'll be sure to find this thread in a couple of years.


I get to watch plenty of OU football and I'm actually an Adrian Peterson supporter, but if you think for one minute that Peterson is faster than Bush you need to have your head checked! Lendale White might be faster than Peterson!!!

AP has the potential to be a player in the mold of Ricky Williams or Deuce McAllister. Both good players mind you. Reggie Bush will be better than LT and has the potential to be the best this game has ever seen. You want to see records... think what Bush's #'s would look like if he didn't give up carries to White.

Put simply, what would Peterson have if he avg. 15.5 carries per game?

Peterson put up 15 more carries than Bush and still came up 600 yards shy of him. We're talking just Rushing... nothing else! RUSHING YARDS.

You want to use injury as an excuse... when have you ever seen Bush miss action from injury.

[FADERPROOF]

Reggie Bush. He's a better receiver and isn't always injured with a strained vagina.

[SoonerBronco]

Reggie Bush. He's a better receiver and isn't always injured with a strained vagina.

FU Faderproof. That's a total BS comment.

[SoonerBronco]

I get to watch plenty of OU football and I'm actually an Adrian Peterson supporter, but if you think for one minute that Peterson is faster than Bush you need to have your head checked! Lendale White might be faster than Peterson!!!

AP has the potential to be a player in the mold of Ricky Williams or Deuce McAllister. Both good players mind you. Reggie Bush will be better than LT and has the potential to be the best this game has ever seen. You want to see records... think what Bush's #'s would look like if he didn't give up carries to White.

Put simply, what would Peterson have if he avg. 15.5 carries per game?

Peterson put up 15 more carries than Bush and still came up 600 yards shy of him. We're talking just Rushing... nothing else! RUSHING YARDS.

You want to use injury as an excuse... when have you ever seen Bush miss action from injury.

If you watched plenty of Peterson, you know he played behind a sub-par Offensive line. If Bush played behind OU's line this year, we wouldn't be having this discussion. Peterson is a legit 4.4 with pads on. So, I'm calling BS that Lendale White is faster.

Peterson is more of the Earl Campbell with speed of Dickerson. I guess you missed the game against OKState when Peterson out ran a 4.3 guy TWICE on his way to an 84 yard and 73 yard TD.

[epicSocialism4tw]

I get to watch plenty of OU football and I'm actually an Adrian Peterson supporter, but if you think for one minute that Peterson is faster than Bush you need to have your head checked! Lendale White might be faster than Peterson!!!

AP has the potential to be a player in the mold of Ricky Williams or Deuce McAllister. Both good players mind you. Reggie Bush will be better than LT and has the potential to be the best this game has ever seen. You want to see records... think what Bush's #'s would look like if he didn't give up carries to White.

Put simply, what would Peterson have if he avg. 15.5 carries per game?

Peterson put up 15 more carries than Bush and still came up 600 yards shy of him. We're talking just Rushing... nothing else! RUSHING YARDS.

You want to use injury as an excuse... when have you ever seen Bush miss action from injury.

Peterson is faster than Bush. He might lack a little in lateral agility, but in straight away speed, you will be hard pressed to find anyone faster than Peterson in college football. Peterson was a champion track star in Texas who is the son of two track stars.

Peterson has been rushing on bad wheels for the entire season. He has been injured and has still put up some solid numbers.

I just dont see a little gnat like Bush having the same type of impact against NFL talent as a three down back. Peterson has a set of attributes that are phenomenal even when stacked up against NFL calibur talent. I like Bush, but there's no doubt that Peterson would stand out even today in a scouting combine. The guy is literally a freak of nature. He's bigger, stronger, agile, tougher, faster, you name it. The guy is the stud young player in college.

Buy the California hype if you want to, but I take AD over Bush 10 out of 10 times if I want to run the ball.

[epicSocialism4tw]

In AD's freshman season, he put up the following numbers:


1925 yards
339 carries
5.7 ypc
15 TD's

Some Peterson stats:
Ht: 6-2 Wt: 219 (freshman weight)
Runs the 100 meters in 10.6 seconds.

[epicSocialism4tw]

<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=10 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD width="71%">Adrian Peterson
RB Oklahoma

</TD><TD width="29%">http://www.voteforheisman.com/Assets/Heisman%20Candidate%20Photos/adrian_peterson.jpg
</TD></TR><TR><TD colSpan=2>Finished second in the Heisman balloting, the best finish ever by a freshman ... was No. 3 in voting for the Maxwell Award (player of the year) ... while playing against a schedule that included six ranked opponents, he proved himself one of the greatest freshman rushers in the history of college football by being named a concensus All-American ... first player in Oklahoma's illustrious football history to be named All-American as a freshman ... first freshman since Dre Bly in 1996 to be named an AP All-American ... first-ever freshman Doak Walker Award finalist ... one of college football's most durable backs with a nation-leading and NCAA freshman record 339 rushing attempts (third-highest total in OU history) ... No. 3 nationally with 1,925 rushing yards ... yards after contact were 1,365, or 71 percent of his net rushing yards ... broke the OU school single season rushing record set in 1978 by Billy Sims (1,896) and the NCAA freshman record set in 1996 by Wisconsin's Ron Dayne (1,863) ... broke two other NCAA freshman rushing records -- most consecutive 100-yard rushing games (9) and most total 100-yard rushing games (11) ... His total of 11 100-yard games moved him to No. 7 on OU's career list and was the second-highest single season total in school history (Quentin Griffin had 12 in 2002) ... tied the NCAA freshman record for reaching 1,000 yards in the fewest games (seven) with Emmitt Smith (Florida, 1987) and Marshall Faulk (San Diego State, 1991) ... Greg Pruitt, who reached 1,000 yards in just six games of the 1971 season, is the only OU back to reach the coveted plateau faster than Peterson ... rushed for 100 yards in 11 of 13 games ... lone exceptions were game 10 when he did not start and played sparingly in a win over Nebraska (15-58) due to in injury suffered in the previous game and the Orange Bowl (25-82) ... ranked No. 6 nationally in rushing yards (148.1) ... averaged 164.0 yards against the four highest ranked opponents OU faced ... set an OU freshman all-purpose yardage record with 1,937 yards, the third-highest figure in school history ... ranked No. 15 nationally with 149.0 all-purpose yards per game ... had 44 runs of 10 or more yards and eight of 35 yards or longer ... just the second OU freshman to rush for 100 yards in his debut, and the first running back to do so.
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[The Big E]

Damn, you really are one angry llama. Bush is just a little gnat? Okie dokie.

Why are you turning this into a California issue? It's hardly a case of California hype, it's hype pretty much from coast to coast, and to act like Bush is somehow undeserving is absurd. I haven't read the whole thread, so maybe you were provoked into making this some sort of regional battle, but if not, you sound ridiculous.

[epicSocialism4tw]

Damn, you really are one angry llama. Bush is just a little gnat? Okie dokie.

Why are you turning this into a California issue? It's hardly a case of California hype, it's hype pretty much from coast to coast, and to act like Bush is somehow undeserving is absurd. I haven't read the whole thread, so maybe you were provoked into making this some sort of regional battle, but if not, you sound ridiculous.

It would be better if you came with some type of cogent retort instead of displaying your lack of reading comprehension skills.

[Broncoman13]

1. Xavier Carter, WR, LSU--He ran a 20.02 200m dash while competing in track this past spring. Right now, there's no one close to his speed. Whether he has that same speed with a helmet on is another question.

2. Jonathan Wade, DB, Tennessee--He ran a 10.43 in the 100m in the spring.

3. Edorian McCullough, DB, Oregon State--Had a best of 10.32 in the 100m in high school and originally signed with Texas before going to JC and then Eugene.

4. Chijioke Onyenegecha, DB, Oklahoma--Hasn't run track at OU, but clocked a 10.33 in junior college.

5. Kenny O'Neal, WR, FSU--The redshirt freshman ran a 10.34 as a high school senior.

6. Devin Hester, DB, Miami--Ran a 10.42 as a freshman at the Big East Championships.

7. Tedd Ginn, WR/DB, Ohio State--Ginn ran a 13.40 in the 110m HH and 21.16 in the 200m as a high school junior.

8. Reggie Bush, RB, USC--Bush had a best of 10.42, which he ran as a junior in high school.

9. Derrick Jones, WR, Oregon--Jones ran a 10.44 as a high school junior.

10. Terrail Lambert, DB, Notre Dame--He ran a 10.53 as a senior in high school.

An excerpt from "the fastest players in college football". BTW, please notice that Adrian Peterson wasn't listed in the 7 above Bush.


Listed at 6' 200 even. As a freshman he was listed at 6' 180. There's no reason to believe he won't add another 10 lbs in the pros. At 210 he's nearly the same size as guys like Edge, Portis, Tatum, and Curtis Martin. At 200 he's still running the same size as Tatum and Portis when they came into the league!

Last but not least... Reggie posted a 330lb bench press.

Here's the #'s for Adrian: The Wrapup – Runs a 4.4 in the 40-yard dash ... posted bench press mark of 295 and squats of 480 pounds ... coached by Jerry Harrell ... also competed in track and field and basketball ... born: March 21, 1985 ... parents: Nelson Peterson and Bonita Jackson.

No mention of the 100m time you listed, but assuming yours is correct Reggie still has him by A LOT! So there goes your bigger/stronger arguement. There goes your faster arguement. I'm not taking anything away from AP. He'll be a very fine back. But, facts are facts and you can't avoid the fact that AP has been injury prone. You also can avoid the fact that his running style will only lead to more injuries. Give me a guy like Bush that doesn't take the hits any day!!! I want my RB in the game, not punishing for 2/3's of the year and sitting the other 3rd!

[Broncoman13]

<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=10 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD width="71%">Adrian Peterson
RB Oklahoma

</TD><TD width="29%">http://www.voteforheisman.com/Assets/Heisman%20Candidate%20Photos/adrian_peterson.jpg
</TD></TR><TR><TD colSpan=2>Finished second in the Heisman balloting, the best finish ever by a freshman ... was No. 3 in voting for the Maxwell Award (player of the year) ... while playing against a schedule that included six ranked opponents, he proved himself one of the greatest freshman rushers in the history of college football by being named a concensus All-American ... first player in Oklahoma's illustrious football history to be named All-American as a freshman ... first freshman since Dre Bly in 1996 to be named an AP All-American ... first-ever freshman Doak Walker Award finalist ... one of college football's most durable backs with a nation-leading and NCAA freshman record 339 rushing attempts (third-highest total in OU history) ... No. 3 nationally with 1,925 rushing yards ... yards after contact were 1,365, or 71 percent of his net rushing yards ... broke the OU school single season rushing record set in 1978 by Billy Sims (1,896) and the NCAA freshman record set in 1996 by Wisconsin's Ron Dayne (1,863) ... broke two other NCAA freshman rushing records -- most consecutive 100-yard rushing games (9) and most total 100-yard rushing games (11) ... His total of 11 100-yard games moved him to No. 7 on OU's career list and was the second-highest single season total in school history (Quentin Griffin had 12 in 2002) ... tied the NCAA freshman record for reaching 1,000 yards in the fewest games (seven) with Emmitt Smith (Florida, 1987) and Marshall Faulk (San Diego State, 1991) ... Greg Pruitt, who reached 1,000 yards in just six games of the 1971 season, is the only OU back to reach the coveted plateau faster than Peterson ... rushed for 100 yards in 11 of 13 games ... lone exceptions were game 10 when he did not start and played sparingly in a win over Nebraska (15-58) due to in injury suffered in the previous game and the Orange Bowl (25-82) ... ranked No. 6 nationally in rushing yards (148.1) ... averaged 164.0 yards against the four highest ranked opponents OU faced ... set an OU freshman all-purpose yardage record with 1,937 yards, the third-highest figure in school history ... ranked No. 15 nationally with 149.0 all-purpose yards per game ... had 44 runs of 10 or more yards and eight of 35 yards or longer ... just the second OU freshman to rush for 100 yards in his debut, and the first running back to do so.
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Winner of the Doak Walker Award and Walter Camp Award.
Pigskin Club of Washington D.C. Offensive Player of the Year.
Was 1 of 3 finalists for the 2005 Maxwell Award and 1 of 4 finalists for the Cingular-ABC Sports All-America Player of the Year Award.
He made the 2005 Football Coaches, Football Writers, Walter Camp, ESPN.com, SI.com and CBS Sportsline.com All-American first teams.
He was named the 2005 Pac-10 Offensive Player of the Year for the second consecutive year (just the fifth player ever so honored and the first non-quarterback to do it in 20 years) and also made the All-Pac-10 first team as a tailback (the squad's only unanimous pick) and second team as a punt returner.
He was USC's team MVP (for the second consecutive year) and won the USC Player of the Game versus Notre Dame, Co-Player of the Game versus UCLA, Co-Lifter and Jack Oakie "Rise and Shine" (for longest run) awards.
He is currently first nationally in all-purpose running (217.6, first in Pac-10), fourth in rushing (138.2, second in Pac-10) and tied for 18th in scoring (9.0, tied for fifth in Pac-10).
His 8.9 yards per carry in 2005--nearly a first down every carry--is tops in the nation.
With 1,658 rushing yards in 2005, he became USC's 24th 1,000-yard runner (his first time).
His 1,658 rushing yards (sixth on USC's season rushing list and ninth on the Pac-10 season chart) are the most at USC since Marcus Allen's 2,427 in his 1981 Heisman Trophy season.
He is averaging 10.1 yards on his 259 touches in 2005 (he has 2,611 all-purpose yards, within range of Marcus Allen's USC and Pac-10 record of 2,683 in 1981 and ninth on the USC season list).
The average length of his 16 touchdowns in 2005 is 31.9 yards.
He is averaging a touchdown every 14.4 times he touches the ball in 2005 (18 TDs on 259 touches).
His 5 consecutive 100-yard rushing games in 2005 (Arkansas, Oregon, Arizona State, Arizona State, Notre Dame) was the first time a Trojan did that since Ricky Ervins also had 5 in a row in 1989.
He has rushed for 100 yards 11 times in his career (8 times in 2005, the most in a season by a Trojan since Ricky Ervins had 9 in 1989).
In USC's 5 games against AP ranked opponents in 2005, he is averaging 198.8 rushing yards (10.0 per carry), with 10 rushing TDs, and 302.2 all-purpose yards.
He and Marcus Allen are the only Trojans to twice rush for at least 260 yards in a game.
He is the only Trojan to rush for 200 yards twice against UCLA.
His combined 554 rushing yards versus Fresno State (294) and UCLA (260) were the most ever by a Trojan in back-to-back games.
He has 93 plays of 20-plus yards in his career (including 36 in 2005).
He caught a pass in 27 consecutive games before his streak was snapped against UCLA in 2005.
He has 6,338 all-purpose yards in his career, averaging 10.3 yards on each of his 615 touches, to rank second in USC history (behind Charles White's 7,226 in 1976-79) and 13th in NCAA history.
In his career, he has averaged a touchdown every 15.0 times he touches the ball (41 TDs on 615 touches).
His 2 seasons with 2,000-plus all-purpose yards (he had 2,330 in 2004) ties an NCAA record.
He has produced touchdowns 5 different ways as a Trojan (rushing, receiving, kickoff returns, punt returns and passing).
He has scored 41 TDs in his 38-game career (24 rushing, 13 receiving, 1 on kickoff returns, 3 on punt returns).
His 3,087 career rushing yards is seventh on USC's career chart.
He is averaging 7.4 yards per carry in his career (420 rushes).
His 89 career receptions is 19th on USC's career ladder.
His 1,420 career kickoff return yards is second on USC's all-time list and his 559 career punt return yards is fifth on USC's all-time chart.

[The Big E]

It would be better if you came with some type of cogent retort instead of displaying your lack of reading comprehension skills.
Apparently you were unable to comprehend the part where I said I hadn't read the whole thread, and yes, I cherry picked a few items out of the entire thread and made a comment about it. So what?

Really, dude, your one of the strong posters here and I don't want to start **** with you, especially over something that you're passionate about and I'm not. From now on, my retorts shall be cogent.:peace:

[FADERPROOF]

FU Faderproof. That's a total BS comment.

2 years, been injured both years, he is a great talent but so is Fred Taylor.

[TD4HOF]

Dunno about Bush (sorry, that name is an instant turn off..not that I don't like Pu$$y)..but the thought of that huge frame running a 10.6 makes me weep silently. He'd be an animal in our system with the added bonus of getting the 3rd and ones.

[SoonerBronco]

2 years, been injured both years, he is a great talent but so is Fred Taylor.


Played the latter half of 04 with a separated shoulder...still put up at ton and rushed for 100 yards in every game but Neb. I'd like to see you play with a separated shoulder....or a high ancle sprain like this year. Ask an Orthopedic Surgeon about a high ancle sprain sometime.

Fred Taylor is a great talent, but so was Katzenmoyer. Talk about vaginal issues...

[FADERPROOF]

Played the latter half of 04 with a separated shoulder...still put up at ton and rushed for 100 yards in every game but Neb. I'd like to see you play with a separated shoulder....or a high ancle sprain like this year. Ask an Orthopedic Surgeon about a high ancle sprain sometime.

Fred Taylor is a great talent, but so was Katzenmoyer. Talk about vaginal issues...

Do you really want to go there with NFL players from each of our schools?

Didnt think so.

[Rausch]

Bush.

He can do it all...

[BroncoBuff]

Reggie Bush. He's a better receiver and isn't always injured with a strained vagina.
FU Faderproof. That's a total BS comment.
Come on, Sooner. Yeah, it was BS, but it was funny, wasn't it? A little? :~ohyah!:

[BroncoBuff]

Dunno about Bush (sorry, that name is an instant turn off...

You're RIGHT! Before we draft Reggie, we better make ABSOLUTELY CERTAIN that he is not related to our Commander-in-Chimp.

[broncohaven]

Gale Sayers or Tony Dorsett?

[Pat Bowlen]

I'd just like to say that this is a fantastic topic and a great thread. You really can't go wrong when fantasizing about having Reggie or Adrian, it's win-win. I'm also starting to slightly lean towards Bush.

[BroncoSoja]

If we're going to play "What if?" we should be talking about elite QBs, something I think would go much farther to increasing offensive production than even the best RB.


ARRRRGGG why I absolutly would trade the whole offense except for the O line, Hot Rod, and MA ( I just like that he is willing to do whatever for the team) for Teh Bush... I have to agree with Mr. Bowlen here we should go for a elite QB, one that can actually be trusted to make a audible... I remember the days when Elway used to do that, been a long long time.

[BroncoSoja]

He's faster, more powerful, and more dominant than Bush. There's no argument here. .

Um no, you dreaming here there is a reason why Bush is so hyped and wanted by so many people..He amazing players like this dont come around very often... And your right there is no argument Bush > Sooner boy by landslide.


BTW I wonder what Houston was thinking by winning there game last week.. Now is not the time to start winning games when you have been horrible all season. Now is the time to get your self ready for the Bush lotta.. If your not going to pick him farm him for other options. I know serveral Texans fans that were livid when they won that game.

[SoonerBronco]

Do you really want to go there with NFL players from each of our schools?

Didnt think so.

Whatever...most of the time you have great points, but other times you a complete dick.

Sure we can go there if you want. I'm sure you'll throw out Jason White, so I'll just say Archie Griffin...

Uve Van Schaman may ring a bell for you too!

[SoonerBronco]

And your right there is no argument Bush > Sooner boy by landslide.

They both are overall pretty equal but have strengths in different areas. I honestly think Peterson would be better for the Broncos because of his running between the tackles. Excellent power and a frame to add more too. Way more...

[Broncoman13]

And what exactly has a big RB been able to do in Denver? Ron Dayne has plenty of size as does MA... they still aren't real good in short yardage. We don't have the size to be a strong short yardage team. That's a fact!

Put it to you this way. Look at Reggie Bush as a Clinton Portis/Tatum Bell style runner. Look at Adrian Peterson as a MA/Ron Dayne style runner. Not saying that CP or Tatum are as good as Bush or MA/RD are as good as Peterson... I'm just comparing styles.

Somebody said it right earlier though... You're talking about a guy that could give you 2000 yard seasons for years to come vs a guy that could give you 1950 yard seasons for years to come. It's not a landside in either direction... so that brings in the all-round player. Bush catches better, he returns kicks/punts, and he can even play QB in a pinch!

[Play2win]

They both are overall pretty equal but have strengths in different areas. I honestly think Peterson would be better for the Broncos because of his running between the tackles. Excellent power and a frame to add more too. Way more...
I agree with you first point, and also that AP would be great in our system. BUT, I think BUSH would be better because when the Zone Blocking would allow him to get to the 2nd level (alot) he would make that Safety MISS 9 times out of 10...

[Chupacabra]

Nah...you must not have seen AD very much.

Adrian Peterson is a bonafide freak of nature. He's faster than Bush and far more powerful. When AD comes to the league, there should be no doubt about his draft position. He'll go first.

AD runs alot like Earl Campbell and Jim Brown with more speed. AD will hit a guy just to flatten him instead of running around him as though he's bored with the secondary.

Bush is an all-purpose guy like Faulk. He looks solid as well as a threat from multiple positions.

I'll take Peterson though because his talent level is higher and he provides both unmatched speed and unique power as a back.

AD is a freak.

AP faster than Bush? You must not have seen RB very much.

[SoonerBronco]

AP faster than Bush? You must not have seen RB very much.

Have you seen Peterson run? Just wait for the Holiday Bowl...

[FADERPROOF]

Whatever...most of the time you have great points, but other times you a complete dick.

Sure we can go there if you want. I'm sure you'll throw out Jason White, so I'll just say Archie Griffin...

Uve Van Schaman may ring a bell for you too!

Yes he rings a bell, but hell, anytime the kicker is calling out the fans to get louder so he can still put it down the middle for the game-winner deserves respect even if its against the Buckeyes.

I'd still take Reggie Bush, he is the better receiver and overall a better complete back, not saying anything against Adrian because he is 1b in the NCAA, Reggie is just 1a for me.

[elsid13]

And what exactly has a big RB been able to do in Denver? Ron Dayne has plenty of size as does MA... they still aren't real good in short yardage. We don't have the size to be a strong short yardage team. That's a fact!

Put it to you this way. Look at Reggie Bush as a Clinton Portis/Tatum Bell style runner. Look at Adrian Peterson as a MA/Ron Dayne style runner. Not saying that CP or Tatum are as good as Bush or MA/RD are as good as Peterson... I'm just comparing styles.

Somebody said it right earlier though... You're talking about a guy that could give you 2000 yard seasons for years to come vs a guy that could give you 1950 yard seasons for years to come. It's not a landside in either direction... so that brings in the all-round player. Bush catches better, he returns kicks/punts, and he can even play QB in a pinch!


I would put Peterson more in TD/OG(preinjury) style runner then MA/Dayne type. Peterson has the ability to get short yardage, wear defense's down and get homerun. Both are great but like I posted before Peterson has better chance on helping a team win in the playoff due his size and power running style.

[Broncoman13]

Power running is not Denver's style. We're not gonna line up and blow a DL off the ball and run it down their throats. The only way we do that is by catching a D off guard with a quick snap count or something.

You also have to look at the injuries. Somebody made a pretty good comparison earlier. Adrian Peterson to date is exactly like Fred Taylor. A lot of talent but usually has some type of injury. Whether he plays or not is not significant, the fact that he's injured is concerning. AP's running style will lead to more and more injuries.

I'll tell you this much, last year I would have been split 50/50 or even 60/40 in favor of AP. With his injuries and Reggies stellar season he now leads IMO.

[SoonerBronco]

Power running is not Denver's style. We're not gonna line up and blow a DL off the ball and run it down their throats. The only way we do that is by catching a D off guard with a quick snap count or something.

You also have to look at the injuries. Somebody made a pretty good comparison earlier. Adrian Peterson to date is exactly like Fred Taylor. A lot of talent but usually has some type of injury. Whether he plays or not is not significant, the fact that he's injured is concerning. AP's running style will lead to more and more injuries.

I'll tell you this much, last year I would have been split 50/50 or even 60/40 in favor of AP. With his injuries and Reggies stellar season he now leads IMO.


WTF Ever! Peterson has not missed whole seasons due to injury ala Fred Taylor. That comparison is completely out of whack. Let's see how Reggie does when he goes to a crappy team that doesn't have thier pick of blockers for him like USC that plays in a notoriusly weak conference. It's easy to pile up numbers when you don't get hit and run behind an excellent O-line. OU's o-line was sub-par this year at best. AD makes all his YAC. Wonder how many of Reggies yards are YAC?

Peterson would be a perfect fit in Denver's system. If you have watched AD as closely as you say you have, you will agree that he is a down hill runner. Sit him back seven yards, give him a crease, and he is gone. Does that not fit the description you gave of Denver's Scheme???

[Broncoman13]

WTF Ever! Peterson has not missed whole seasons due to injury ala Fred Taylor. That comparison is completely out of whack. Let's see how Reggie does when he goes to a crappy team that doesn't have thier pick of blockers for him like USC that plays in a notoriusly weak conference. It's easy to pile up numbers when you don't get hit and run behind an excellent O-line. OU's o-line was sub-par this year at best. AD makes all his YAC. Wonder how many of Reggies yards are YAC?

Peterson would be a perfect fit in Denver's system. If you have watched AD as closely as you say you have, you will agree that he is a down hill runner. Sit him back seven yards, give him a crease, and he is gone. Does that not fit the description you gave of Denver's Scheme???

Reggie had more yards after contact this year than AP had total! You obviously haven't watched Reggie bounce off tackles yourself. If AP was playing for UT you wouldn't have the same opinion. You're totally biased, which is fine, I wouldn't expect anything less! Facts are facts though, AP's running style has led to numerous injuries. You say he plays through them, but don't realize that playing through those injuries still limits what he can do on the football field. I've watched plenty of AP to know that he's gonna be a helluva runner. Given the option, I'd rather have a guy that's widely considered the best in the past 20 years. AP runs up right and will only continue to get injured. Look at his running style then look at Chris Brown. Is that a better comparison for you? Chris Brown and AP are one and the same!

[Pat Bowlen]

Look at his running style then look at Chris Brown. Is that a better comparison for you? Chris Brown and AP are one and the same!
I think that's a bit of a stretch.

[Mile High Shack]

I think that's a bit of a stretch.

I agree with you Pat

AD has about 2 x's as much talent as Chris Brown does

[Broncoman13]

I agree with you Pat

AD has about 2 x's as much talent as Chris Brown does


Okay, my post was misleading. I'm talking running style. You watch them run, they look the same. Is AP more talented... no question. Do both running styles resemble one and other... No question. Does that running style result in more injuries... NO QUESTION!

For what it's worth to all of the Sooner faithful, I'd do back flips if we selected AP in 07 or 08. But I think we'll have to tweak a few things for him. If we were to bring in Reggie Bush nothing would have to be tweaked. Like I said earlier. You're talking about a perrenial 2000 yard rusher vs a 1950 yard rusher. It really is a win win. Teach Peterson how to run without getting all banged up and I'll go his way. To date though he hasn't learned how to avoid that damage. There's a very good chance that by time he comes out he'll only have 4 or 5 good seasons in him. He takes a ton of abuse!

[SoonerBronco]

If AP was playing for UT you wouldn't have the same opinion. You're totally biased, which is fine, I wouldn't expect anything less!

Stereotyping me ehh...that's nice. For what it's worth Jammall Charles will have tons of records of his own before he is done at UT and if he were in the same class as these guys, might be mentioned the same breath.

Facts are facts though, AP's running style has led to numerous injuries.

FACTS ARE THAT HE HAS HAD TWO INJURIES IN TWO YEARS...a shoulder separation and a high ancle sprain. I'm sorry but the FACT is that any running back is suseptable to either of those injures no matter what there running style is.

AP runs up right and will only continue to get injured. Look at his running style then look at Chris Brown. Is that a better comparison for you? Chris Brown and AP are one and the same!

We'll see about injuries...and as for Chris Brown, give me a break. That was the most retarted thing you have posted in this thread.

[epicSocialism4tw]

Okay, my post was misleading. I'm talking running style. You watch them run, they look the same. Is AP more talented... no question. Do both running styles resemble one and other... No question. Does that running style result in more injuries... NO QUESTION!

For what it's worth to all of the Sooner faithful, I'd do back flips if we selected AP in 07 or 08. But I think we'll have to tweak a few things for him. If we were to bring in Reggie Bush nothing would have to be tweaked. Like I said earlier. You're talking about a perrenial 2000 yard rusher vs a 1950 yard rusher. It really is a win win. Teach Peterson how to run without getting all banged up and I'll go his way. To date though he hasn't learned how to avoid that damage. There's a very good chance that by time he comes out he'll only have 4 or 5 good seasons in him. He takes a ton of abuse!

He had a high ankle sprain this season and missed some time this season, and last season he led the nation in carries and played with a shoulder injury on his way into the history books.

I dont think there's anything in his running style to suggest that he gets injured more than any other back. When you get the ball that much, you are bound to get some dings. I will say, however, that AD (short for ALL DAY / ADrian) is tall and tacklers cant stop him up high because of his power which results in alot of knee/ankle tackles. If anything, sometimes he might need to fall over instead of carrying 4 guys on his back (literally). I dont see that as a problem. You are talking about a guy that was the #1 target of every defense he's seen since he entered the lineup last season. He's going to take some abuse in college.

[SAGE]

All this arguing....but at the end of the day.....we won't be getting any of them.

[epicSocialism4tw]

I forgot to add:

The dude was a true freshman last season! His body hasnt even matured completely. He was an 18 year old kid playing against 20-23 year old guys. Those few years really make a difference.

He was 19 this season.

AD will fill out to look like a linebacker.

[SoonerBronco]

I forgot to add:

The dude was a true freshman last season! His body hasnt even matured completely. He was an 18 year old kid playing against 20-23 year old guys. Those few years really make a difference.

He was 19 this season.

AD will fill out to look like a linebacker.

Getting pretty close...

http://www.adrian-peterson.com/espn1.jpg

[Broncoman13]

Stereotyping me ehh...that's nice. For what it's worth Jammall Charles will have tons of records of his own before he is done at UT and if he were in the same class as these guys, might be mentioned the same breath.

He's great, but will end up in a Reggie Bush like scenario (that is giving away goal line touches to Henry Melton). If you want to stand here and say you're not biased that's fine but your user name and posts indicate otherwise.


FACTS ARE THAT HE HAS HAD TWO INJURIES IN TWO YEARS...a shoulder separation and a high ancle sprain. I'm sorry but the FACT is that any running back is suseptable to either of those injures no matter what there running style is.

Two injuries in two seasons... I stand corrected, he's batting 1.000 thus making him more injury prone than Fred Taylor!


We'll see about injuries...and as for Chris Brown, give me a break. That was the most retarted thing you have posted in this thread.

Spelling smack is weak so I'm not trying to go their, but it's retarded and ankle... just FYI, nothing more. As for the Chris Brown, I'll say it again... running style, not caliber player. Sorry that post was misleading.


Angyllama just added his age and size. You do realize their are plenty of other 18 and 19 year olds playing in college right? I'd say he has the size of an OU or UT LB right now. And, despite his size he's still oft injured. All I've been trying to say is that if he can make it through a season without fighting injuries he'd do a lot to quiet the critics... myself included. Playing injured in college and having success if far different from playing injured in the NFL and having success.

[SoonerBronco]

Angyllama just added his age and size. You do realize their are plenty of other 18 and 19 year olds playing in college right? I'd say he has the size of an OU or UT LB right now. And, despite his size he's still oft injured. All I've been trying to say is that if he can make it through a season without fighting injuries he'd do a lot to quiet the critics... myself included. Playing injured in college and having success if far different from playing injured in the NFL and having success.

Broncoman...Don't call me biased with you in Texas. Am I not supposed to have a favorite team?

Fred Taylor has had SEASON ENDING INJURIES. Last time I checked AD has finished both seasons.

[Broncoman13]

Thinking back, even when watching him play in the Army game (HS all-american type game) I don't think I've seen a game go by that he didn't come out with atleast some type of injury. Right now he's so talented that injuries haven't completely slowed him... in the NFL that talent equals out and injuries will play a big role in his success or lack thereof. I'll bet money that you will hear either "AD" or Stoops talk about his running style and the amount of hits he takes before next season begins. Whether you guys want to admit it or not, it's a problem. Just like his work load is a problem. Scouts were scared to death of Cedric Benson b/c of his work load in college. Many still believe he'll have a 5-6 year career.

[Broncoman13]

Broncoman...Don't call me biased with you in Texas. Am I not supposed to have a favorite team?

Fred Taylor has had SEASON ENDING INJURIES. Last time I checked AD has finished both seasons.


I'm in Texas, "AD" is from Texas genius... did you have a point? You're welcome to have a favorite team. You're welcome to your opinions. You're even welcome to have a biased opinion, but atleast man up and call it what it is!

Fred Taylor has also finished seasons without injury...something Peterson has yet to accomplish!

[Broncoman13]

Btw, I guess there are 47 others that don't know what they're talking about... while 21 people know all there is to know about RB's. :rollingeyes:

[SoonerBronco]

Thinking back, even when watching him play in the Army game (HS all-american type game) I don't think I've seen a game go by that he didn't come out with atleast some type of injury. Right now he's so talented that injuries haven't completely slowed him... in the NFL that talent equals out and injuries will play a big role in his success or lack thereof. I'll bet money that you will hear either "AD" or Stoops talk about his running style and the amount of hits he takes before next season begins. Whether you guys want to admit it or not, it's a problem. Just like his work load is a problem. Scouts were scared to death of Cedric Benson b/c of his work load in college. Many still believe he'll have a 5-6 year career.

They were also scared of his Ricky Williams dreads and tendency to smoke a doobie...

If you really had watched this year, you would have seen that when AD either has an opportunity to run out of bounds or plow into someone, he goes out of bounds. Not at all like his freshman year when he would hit anything that moved.

[SoonerBronco]

Btw, I guess there are 47 others that don't know what they're talking about... while 21 people know all there is to know about RB's. :rollingeyes:

BTW, I never said that. But if you want to continue to be a jackass that is fine.

[Broncoman13]

If you really had watched this year, you would have seen that when AD either has an opportunity to run out of bounds or plow into someone, he goes out of bounds. Not at all like his freshman year when he would hit anything that moved.

And how much of that was b/c he was running injured with less than full power in his legs? Were you trying to make a point there?

[SoonerBronco]

I'm in Texas, "AD" is from Texas genius... did you have a point?


WTF does that have to do with anything? My comments were in reference to obvious dislike of Sooner fans. That's my point. I know where Peterson is from (Palestine, TX).

Now what's your point...a weak attempt at smack? BTW pointing out spelling errors is passive agressive spelling smack. :)

[SoonerBronco]

And how much of that was b/c he was running injured with less than full power in his legs? Were you trying to make a point there?

He was doing that before he got injured.

What is your obsession with trying to make it look like I don't have a point??? Do I detect a little self confidence issue here?

[Pat Bowlen]

Spelling smack is weak so I'm not trying to go their, but it's retarded and ankle... just FYI, nothing more.
And just for your information....

[Broncoman13]

WTF does that have to do with anything? My comments were in reference to obvious dislike of Sooner fans. That's my point. I know where Peterson is from (Palestine, TX).

Now what's your point...a weak attempt at smack? BTW pointing out spelling errors is passive agressive spelling smack. :)


I don't dislike Sooner fans. I'm a fan of college football. The team I root for the most is probably the Air Force Academy. After that I really just watch to enjoy. Most years I don't pull for any team more or less than any other team. Last year I was a big Sooner fan when they played the Trojans for the NCS. This year I'll be a UT fan. Just b/c I'm in Texas makes me a Sooner hater? I'm pretty sure that AngryLlama is from Texas and he's supporting your arguement.

BTW, I made it perfectly clear that I wasn't using spelling as smack. I was pointing it out b/c you had spelled those two words wrong on more than one occasion. I figured you might want to know... nothing more nothing less. Next time, I'll continue letting you spell your words wrong.

Pat... get a life! ;D

[The Big E]

And just for your information....
PB always has his red marker out, just waiting to set somebody straight. ;D

[SoonerBronco]

I figured you might want to know... nothing more nothing less. Next time, I'll continue letting you spell your words wrong.

Pat... get a life! ;D

Next time don't bother. The point is that you were pointing that out to try to invalidate any opinion I had...Kinda like a lawyer discredits a witness..It was a weak attempt to make yourself look better. I believe that's called smack. Trying to qualify your statement will do you no good.

Besides...Pat is the spelling police around hear...I mean here!

[Broncoman13]

Next time don't bother. The point is that you were pointing that out to try to invalidate any opinion I had...Kinda like a lawyer discredits a witness..It was a weak attempt to make yourself look better. I believe that's called smack. Trying to qualify your statement will do you no good.

Besides...Pat is the spelling police around hear...I mean here!

I don't need to try and qualify my statements. It seems as though you're a little too high on yourself and take to heart what people say a little too much. Guess what, as a Bronco fan it really makes no difference which RB is better. You're stuck in this little pipe dream thinking that we're gonna sell the farm to get Peterson. Not gonna happen! Now get over yourself and quit pouting about your misspelled words. It's not a big idea and I'm sorry I hurt your little feelings.

[SoonerBronco]

I don't need to try and qualify my statements.

Obviously you did...

It seems as though you're a little too high on yourself and take to heart what people say a little too much.

Where did you get that notion?

Guess what, as a Bronco fan it really makes no difference which RB is better. You're stuck in this little pipe dream thinking that we're gonna sell the farm to get Peterson. Not gonna happen!

Read the whole thread please................

Now get over yourself and quit pouting about your misspelled words. It's not a big idea and I'm sorry I hurt your little feelings.

You brought it up. "It's not a big idea"?????? That's way over my head, but hey, I think I'm better than everyone else on this board right?

I'm done...

[Rascal]

Reggie Bush.

Simply because with AD's running style he is going to get injured and it only takes one to be career ending.

[Broncoman13]

Not a big deal... sorry that confused you. Most people could figure it out, but for you it's like asking you to piss in the corner of a round room. Note to self, from now on when dealing with SoonerBroncos use KISS!

[Broncoman13]

Reggie Bush.

Simply because with AD's running style he is going to get injured and it only takes one to be career ending.


lmao... you had to go there! Lets see here... He still ran for 1000 yards and like 1900 yards as a true 18 year old freshman, going up against guys that are twice his age and 10 feet taller, his parents are both championship track stars so he is faster, stronger, agile, and can leap tall buildings, but he does need a running start first. Did I mention that his running style has nothing to do with injuries and that he still produces so it must not matter, even though he's going up against college kids and in the Pros it would make a big difference. He's only had two injuries and still plays...

There, I just saved you 2 pages of bickering and listening to SoonerBronco cry about this and that!

[Broncoman13]

Btw, you're still my biatch! See if this works.

[FADERPROOF]

Reggie Bush.

Simply because with AD's running style he is going to get injured and it only takes one to be career ending.

Actually, according to Sooner fans and angryllama here, if you still play with an injury or don't miss much time, it's not really an injury.

Adrian Peterson has been healthy for 2 years now...

[Broncoman13]

Actually, according to Sooner fans and angryllama here, if you still play with an injury or don't miss much time, it's not really an injury.

Adrian Peterson has been healthy for 2 years now...

And his running style has nothing to do with it.

What really got me to laughing was when they said that Peterson was faster than Homer. Then I find the facts and their story is BS! Not only is Bush faster, he's stronger as well!

[SoonerBronco]

You guys are complete class acts. Wow...it's great being a Bronco fan, but every team has a couple of self-assuming, know-it-all, my shiat don't stink, arseholes as fans and Broncoman and DenFan, you guys are it. There is no intelligent discussion unless you agree with what they have to say. If you don't agree your a "cry baby, whiner, dumbass" or whatever choice word they came up with that morning.

You guys get a big F.U.C.K you in my book. Not because we don't agree, but becasue you are assholes about it. I can't stand folks like that but hey...everyone is a big tough guy on a message board right?

The whole thread was a mute point to begin with to stir discussion, and it was good for the first 5 pages before you two chimed in.

[sirhcyennek81]

group hug!

:Broncos:

[Rascal]

And his running style has nothing to do with it.

What really got me to laughing was when they said that Peterson was faster than Homer. Then I find the facts and their story is BS! Not only is Bush faster, he's stronger as well!

I don't know where you get stronger. I actually met adrian in person and the guy is ripped. Bush is faster no doubt, but I don't think I will agree about stronger.

[Rascal]

You guys are complete class acts. Wow...it's great being a Bronco fan, but every team has a couple of self-assuming, know-it-all, my shiat don't stink, arseholes as fans and Broncoman and DenFan, you guys are it. There is no intelligent discussion unless you agree with what they have to say. If you don't agree your a "cry baby, whiner, dumbass" or whatever choice word they came up with that morning.

You guys get a big F.U.C.K you in my book. Not because we don't agree, but becasue you are a-holes about it. I can't stand folks like that but hey...everyone is a big tough guy on a message board right?

The whole thread was a mute point to begin with to stir discussion, and it was good for the first 5 pages before you two chimed in.

FU Faderproof. That's a total BS comment.

It was you who started the hostilities BTW.

[SoonerBronco]

It was you who started the hostilities BTW.

Not so...unless you consider this not hostile.

Reggie Bush. He's a better receiver and isn't always injured with a strained vagina

[Rascal]

Not so...unless you consider this not hostile.

No I don't.

That is his personal opinion which you asked for!!

He thinks AD is a younger Fred Taylor which the evidence gives at least some credibility too. Plus Bush is a good WR so his statement has credibility on all accounts.

Just because you don't like it doesn't mean you can call their statement BS without adequate proof or tell them to STFU.

[SoonerBronco]

No I don't.

That is his personal opinion which you asked for!!

He thinks AD is a younger Fred Taylor which the evidence gives at least some credibility too. Plus Bush is a good WR so his statement has credibility on all accounts.

Just because you don't like it doesn't mean you can call their statement BS without adequate proof or tell them to STFU.

I am done! This thread has gone to the toilet! You guys think whatever you want to about me.

[Rascal]

It went into the toilet due to your own actions don't blame anybody else.

Oskie and Fader are tough to argue with but that is because they know their stuff. This isn't a OU homer page so you will not find a receptive audiance to your statements when their is contradicting evidence.

[Play2win]

It went into the toilet due to your own actions don't blame anybody else.

Oskie and Fader are tough to argue with but that is because they know their stuff. This isn't a OU homer page so you will not find a receptive audiance to your statements when their is contradicting evidence.

Exactly...

[Broncoman13]

I was pretty suprised when I found the stronger stuff myself. I will say that being ripped doesn't equate to greater strength. I'm sure we've all met guys that were plenty strong that didn't have muscles bulging out of their shirts.

I got the stronger part by searching Bench Press and Squat #'s. No telling if those #'s are out of date and there's a good chance that Peterson probably had some type of injury (imagine that ;D) when doing he lifting. But, from what I've found Bush out lifted Peterson in both categories. As well as having a faster career 100m time. I didn't post 40 times for Bush b/c I found times on the net all the way from a 4.67 to a 4.29. Kind of a big window. Just about every thing I read on Peterson listed him at a 4.4. So I went with the 100m time which is what Sooner or Llama used as the basis of his arguement to begin with.

Funny how some people can throw around verbal attacks and tell people they're so wrong, but when you challenge them they cry foul and don't want to engage further. This thread can die but I think it's actually a pretty good debate b/c both players are close in overall talent. Different way of getting the job done, but in overall talent and what they can bring to a team they're almost equal. Like I've said numerous times, find a way for AD to stay healthy and he'd likely move ahead of Bush, no matter what though, Bush will always be the more high profiled player. Highlight players (Portis vs Martin, Edge vs Alexander, etc.) will always get more pub.

[The Big E]

Marshawn Lynch > AP











ok, i'm just trying to stir the pot. never mind.

[BMF Bronco]

Btw, I guess there are 47 others that don't know what they're talking about... while 21 people know all there is to know about RB's. :rollingeyes:
Dude, seriously, it's like the greatest QB of all time poll, everyone's got an opinion, and just because the majority of you have the wrong one, we wont hold it against you! hmmm...

Bush is fantastic, don't get me wrong, but a back like Peterson would just thrive in Denver. He has the speed and the power of a MA and TB mixed. Get a few pounds on him and he could be the next TD! Granted Bush is good, but I can't help myself but liken him to someone like Taters, he's got the same build, speed etc. I dont think he has the power to blow past the 300+ lb lineman in the nfl.

Let the crucifiction begin...

[BMF Bronco]

I was pretty suprised when I found the stronger stuff myself. I will say that being ripped doesn't equate to greater strength. I'm sure we've all met guys that were plenty strong that didn't have muscles bulging out of their shirts.

I got the stronger part by searching Bench Press and Squat #'s. No telling if those #'s are out of date and there's a good chance that Peterson probably had some type of injury (imagine that ;D) when doing he lifting. But, from what I've found Bush out lifted Peterson in both categories. As well as having a faster career 100m time. I didn't post 40 times for Bush b/c I found times on the net all the way from a 4.67 to a 4.29. Kind of a big window. Just about every thing I read on Peterson listed him at a 4.4. So I went with the 100m time which is what Sooner or Llama used as the basis of his arguement to begin with.

Funny how some people can throw around verbal attacks and tell people they're so wrong, but when you challenge them they cry foul and don't want to engage further. This thread can die but I think it's actually a pretty good debate b/c both players are close in overall talent. Different way of getting the job done, but in overall talent and what they can bring to a team they're almost equal. Like I've said numerous times, find a way for AD to stay healthy and he'd likely move ahead of Bush, no matter what though, Bush will always be the more high profiled player. Highlight players (Portis vs Martin, Edge vs Alexander, etc.) will always get more pub.
Edge vs. Alexander?! Come on now, you're pushin it there. Alexander is the only RB you hear about this year (rightly so I must add).

[epicSocialism4tw]

Funny how some people can throw around verbal attacks and tell people they're so wrong, but when you challenge them they cry foul and don't want to engage further. This thread can die but I think it's actually a pretty good debate b/c both players are close in overall talent. Different way of getting the job done, but in overall talent and what they can bring to a team they're almost equal. Like I've said numerous times, find a way for AD to stay healthy and he'd likely move ahead of Bush, no matter what though, Bush will always be the more high profiled player. Highlight players (Portis vs Martin, Edge vs Alexander, etc.) will always get more pub.

Bush is higher profile because he plays in LA...not because he's more of a 'highlight' player. AD is a virtual reel by himself.

[Broncoman13]

Give me a break, you're starting to sound like Sooner. Plain and simple... Bush's avg TD was 31.9 yards. That's 16 rushing TD's w/a 32 yard average! By comparison, AD had only 8 runs of over 35 yards! Bush had 36 runs for over 20 yards. Peterson had 44 runs of over 10 yards... did I mention that all these stats for Peterson are Freshman stats...not stats from this past season. We're comparing AD's best career season to Bush from this season... the here and now!

I can't begin to tell you how ignorant that statement was. Bush is higher profile b/c he plays in LA...not because he's more of a "highlight" player. Amazing that you would even say that. I'm seriously amazed. I don't think even Sooner would say that AD is more of a highlight player than Reggie. Did you fall off your wagon and onto Mocks?

[Broncoman13]

Edge vs. Alexander?! Come on now, you're pushin it there. Alexander is the only RB you hear about this year (rightly so I must add).


He's about to break the TD record... of course you're going to hear some about that. 9 out of 10 analysts would cite his success as a product of the offensive line in Seattle. If you'd prefer to put LT in place of Edge have at it... same rule applies. Alexander consistently out produces LT, yet LT is referred to as the best in the game. Why? HIGHLIGHTS!!!

[BMF Bronco]

Give me a break, you're starting to sound like Sooner. Plain and simple... Bush's avg TD was 31.9 yards. That's 16 rushing TD's w/a 32 yard average! By comparison, AD had only 8 runs of over 35 yards! Bush had 36 runs for over 20 yards. Peterson had 44 runs of over 10 yards... did I mention that all these stats for Peterson are Freshman stats...not stats from this past season. We're comparing AD's best career season to Bush from this season... the here and now!

I can't begin to tell you how ignorant that statement was. Bush is higher profile b/c he plays in LA...not because he's more of a "highlight" player. Amazing that you would even say that. I'm seriously amazed. I don't think even Sooner would say that AD is more of a highlight player than Reggie. Did you fall off your wagon and onto Mocks?
Easy there killer! Yeah, great comparisons there, but seriously, lets look at the gray portion rather than black and white. Are you trying to tell me that the defenses (let's stick to conferences here) are comparable? the Big XII d's are WAY stronger at run stopping than are the PAC 10 (thanks to the old days of NU and OU, hell even CU) having the dominant running games. Yeah of course bush is going to have huge numbers, when you can drive a Mack truck through the defensive breakdowns, hell I caould have those numbers!! Seriously bro, look at the Fresno State game, seriously how many points/yards were accumulated?!

[Broncoman13]

Let me let you in on a little secret BMF. A certain "great" RB that played at SDSU ran for 340 yards and 7 TD's against the powerhouse Pacific University his first time out. Pacific University! I'm sure you can figure out who that player is and I'm sure you'd agree that he was one hell of a RB for about 10-12 years! I'm sure you can also figure out that what I'm trying to say is talent is talent... it doesn't matter who you play sometimes. You don't have to put a beautiful girl in a line-up with a bunch of models to figure out if she's pretty or not... get what I'm sayin?

[Play2win]

All I can say is that anybody that watched that whole FRESNO STATE GAME, Every play of it, you almost have to give him his props as one of the best you've seen in a while. That game was definitely one of the best performances I have seen in a LONG TIME...

How many out there actually watched every play of the whole game ?!?

That being said, Either on (Peterson or BUSH) would THRIVE in our system and brake records. LOTS of them...

[The Big E]

There's no real reason to rip either of these players. To imply that Reggie Bush wouldn't have run roughshod over the Big 12 is absurd.

[GonzoLays]

I like Mike Peterson's little brother as a RB but since he hasn't been able to beat out Thomas Jones in Chicago would definitely have me taking Bush.

Actually that was quite stupid. But hey, it came from Naptown Chief so what do you expect?

[Chupacabra]

Have you seen Peterson run? Just wait for the Holiday Bowl...
Yeah, I saw Peterson play in High School AND at OU.. (I go to UT)
I think the real test is Bush vs. the Texas 2ndary...... All 4 players in UT's defensive backfield run sub-4.4s w/ Huff obviously being the most talented. If Bush flies by us like he has everyone else, there should be no doubt in ANYONE's mind that at this point in time he is the better RB of the two. AP had a great freshman campaign due in large part to his great surrounding cast. He is big, powerful, fast, in the mold of Jim Brown. However, Bush isn't just in the mold of Gale Sayers....... He could be better.

[Broncoman13]

Yeah, I saw Peterson play in High School AND at OU.. (I go to UT)
I think the real test is Bush vs. the Texas 2ndary...... All 4 players in UT's defensive backfield run sub-4.4s w/ Huff obviously being the most talented. If Bush flies by us like he has everyone else, there should be no doubt in ANYONE's mind that at this point in time he is the better RB of the two. AP had a great freshman campaign due in large part to his great surrounding cast. He is big, powerful, fast, in the mold of Jim Brown. However, Bush isn't just in the mold of Gale Sayers....... He could be better.



Good point about the UT secondary. If Bush has a 175 yard 3 TD type game I think you can put this debate to bed!!! I didn't realize that all 4 in the UT secondary were sub 4.4 guys. I like the way Huff and Griffin (sp?) play.

[FADERPROOF]

You guys are complete class acts. Wow...it's great being a Bronco fan, but every team has a couple of self-assuming, know-it-all, my shiat don't stink, arseholes as fans and Broncoman and DenFan, you guys are it. There is no intelligent discussion unless you agree with what they have to say. If you don't agree your a "cry baby, whiner, dumbass" or whatever choice word they came up with that morning.

You guys get a big F.U.C.K you in my book. Not because we don't agree, but becasue you are a-holes about it. I can't stand folks like that but hey...everyone is a big tough guy on a message board right?

The whole thread was a mute point to begin with to stir discussion, and it was good for the first 5 pages before you two chimed in.

Really? What word did I use then because I don't see anything calling you guys dumb or a cry baby or a whiner.

Me and Oskie have both xalled Peterson a great players and great RB, but just not quite as good as Reggie Bush, you are the one who cant take someone else having a different opinion as you and have jumped all over us for it.

This thread was good until you let your stubborn bias get the best of you.

[FADERPROOF]

Bush is higher profile because he plays in LA...not because he's more of a 'highlight' player. AD is a virtual reel by himself.


I agree, since Oklahoma isn't a top 5 program of all-time or anything...

Those mid-majors never get the credit they deserve.

[Gcver2ver3]

reggie bush is good

[epicSocialism4tw]

Good point about the UT secondary. If Bush has a 175 yard 3 TD type game I think you can put this debate to bed!!! I didn't realize that all 4 in the UT secondary were sub 4.4 guys. I like the way Huff and Griffin (sp?) play.

Well, you could say that if AD had not missed this year's game with an injury. He got 3 carries in that game. He only had 32 rushes for 225 yards in his freshman season.

[Broncoman13]

How bout this Llama.

Reggie Bush vs Oregon:

20 Carries 122 yards and a TD, 3 receptions 43 yards and a TD for a total of 165 yards and 2 TD's (not counting his return/all-purpose yards mind you)

Adrian Peterson vs Oregon: (He was healthy)

23 Carries 84 yards and 0 TD's, 1 reception 8 yards and 0 TD's for a total of 92 yards and 0 TD's (including any all purpose yardage).

Same opponent tough guy, and I believe that OU got to play the Ducks on a neutral field.

What was it some of you were saying about Peterson running all over a PAC-10 school? While they aren't the strongest conference, there are some players and running against the likes of Ngata isn't easy... not for Peterson anyhow.

[epicSocialism4tw]

How bout this Llama.

Reggie Bush vs Oregon:

20 Carries 122 yards and a TD, 3 receptions 43 yards and a TD for a total of 165 yards and 2 TD's (not counting his return/all-purpose yards mind you)

Adrian Peterson vs Oregon: (He was healthy)

23 Carries 84 yards and 0 TD's, 1 reception 8 yards and 0 TD's for a total of 92 yards and 0 TD's (including any all purpose yardage).

Same opponent tough guy, and I believe that OU got to play the Ducks on a neutral field.

What was it some of you were saying about Peterson running all over a PAC-10 school? While they aren't the strongest conference, there are some players and running against the likes of Ngata isn't easy... not for Peterson anyhow.

I think that either comparison is redundant and shows nothing of value.

[Pat Bowlen]

reggie bush is good
I knew there was a reason I came back to this thread.

[BroncoBuff]

I knew there was a reason I came back to this thread.
What are you planning, sir? The Texans will owe compensation for Kubiak, plus we have two #1 picks . . . is your divine resurrection of this thread a precursor to an announcement regarding these issues?