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Elway 4 Life
12-19-2005, 10:02 AM
I'm sure all I have to say has been said but I think it's worth repeating.

First, The Duke era has begun. I hope to see that big feller a whole lot more. I think if we start to work him in more and more we can forget about the TE draft talk.

Second, Lelie made one of the most amazing catches I have seen all year in the 3rd quater. He showed his flashes again. I think Plummer through a couple real good deep balls but that one was absolutely pinpoint where it had to be. I still have some hope for him.

Third, Rod smith is my freaking hero. He amazes me game in and game out. Sterling Sharpe said some pretty damn good things about him and his opinion to me means more than most. I hope Rod can play at this level for another 4 or 5 years. I will hate to see him go almost as much as I hated to see TD and Johnny football go.

All in all the future for the broncs looks good.

footstepsfrom#27
12-19-2005, 10:10 AM
Lets not go overboard. Duke caught a TD pass because we pulled a Carswell on them and threw it to a guy they never expected would see a pass come his way. Lets see if he can do it when they're expecting it.

Lepsis used to be a tight end so I wonder why we don't throw it to him also...???

yhova
12-19-2005, 10:10 AM
I found it funny that Putzier came up with 3 for 56 yds. in the first game Duke was active. I think he can feel the heat.

dbfan4life
12-19-2005, 10:11 AM
Be careful when you say "The Duke" era. You might be stepping on some toes there.

Elway 4 Life
12-19-2005, 10:18 AM
I'm just saying if he can get even a little seperation he's a huge target. I think in a jump ball situation he wins 9 out of 10 times even if they know it's coming. He will be a work in progress but I think he has a huge upside for very little money. I'm tired of people saying we need to draft TE Lewis. I dont think we need a TE.

Elway 4 Life
12-19-2005, 10:19 AM
Be careful when you say "The Duke" era. You might be stepping on some toes there.

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OrangeShadow
12-19-2005, 10:19 AM
i called that duke catch perfectly

footstepsfrom#27
12-19-2005, 11:00 AM
I'm just saying if he can get even a little seperation he's a huge target. I think in a jump ball situation he wins 9 out of 10 times even if they know it's coming. He will be a work in progress but I think he has a huge upside for very little money. I'm tired of people saying we need to draft TE Lewis. I dont think we need a TE.
I think we do need one. One catch doesn't make Duke anything more than a guy who might or might not make it. Putz looked like he was ready for a break out year and he's been very average while Alexander has been a bust IMO. Our TE's have one TD catch all season unless you count the 2 House has. Gates...Gonzalez,...Cooley...Clark...Crumpler...He ap...Shockey...Smith...they're all better than anything we have. Without a viable TE threat and Lelie still just a long ball artist we have nothing in the medium range passing zones other than Rod, and who knows how much longer he can go without injury. I think a TE in the 2nd-3rd round would be fine if the right guy is there.

SAGE
12-19-2005, 11:05 AM
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John Elway is "The Duke" here.

Taco John
12-19-2005, 11:09 AM
The ankles broken on the Darrius Watts bandwagon are all healed up and ready to jump on the Duke bandwagon.

Merlin
12-19-2005, 11:10 AM
I'm just saying if he can get even a little seperation he's a huge target.
Far too often people focus on jumping when talking about ex-bball players. I would argue that their biggest benefit (assuming they have the strength to handle the bump in the first 5 yds) is their ability to get separation. BBall is about separation in close quarters and positioning, two skills that can be very useful, especially in the RZ.

Atlas
12-19-2005, 11:15 AM
The ankles broken on the Darrius Watts bandwagon are all healed up and ready to jump on the Duke bandwagon.

Can't we just call him Wesley???

DBroncos4life
12-19-2005, 11:16 AM
The ankles broken on the Darrius Watts bandwagon are all healed up and ready to jump on the Duke bandwagon.


blah, we are just waiting for our move. :militia:

Elway 4 Life
12-19-2005, 12:15 PM
A positive post on my part and I get mostly negativity. Duke has alot of upside to me. He is a big target and that is really all I'm saying.

Garcia Bronco
12-19-2005, 12:17 PM
The ankles broken on the Darrius Watts bandwagon are all healed up and ready to jump on the Duke bandwagon.


I'm on the Adaveo bandwagon....the driver left a while ago...but he said he'd be right back.

ozomulsion
12-19-2005, 12:22 PM
I found it funny that Putzier came up with 3 for 56 yds. in the first game Duke was active. I think he can feel the heat.

He can't even wrestle the starting job away from Alexander.

ludo21
12-19-2005, 12:23 PM
i liked the Duke pick up as soon as we got him!

Watching that guy Dunk convinced me he had some skills.

Im also very on the Brandon Browner wagon, just wait folks, im pumped up for this kids potential (thats an ugly word, but he has it)

Lynch Bailey247
12-19-2005, 12:29 PM
I'm sure all I have to say has been said but I think it's worth repeating.

First, The Duke era has begun. I hope to see that big feller a whole lot more. I think if we start to work him in more and more we can forget about the TE draft talk.

Second, Lelie made one of the most amazing catches I have seen all year in the 3rd quater. He showed his flashes again. I think Plummer through a couple real good deep balls but that one was absolutely pinpoint where it had to be. I still have some hope for him.

Third, Rod smith is my freaking hero. He amazes me game in and game out. Sterling Sharpe said some pretty damn good things about him and his opinion to me means more than most. I hope Rod can play at this level for another 4 or 5 years. I will hate to see him go almost as much as I hated to see TD and Johnny football go.

All in all the future for the broncs looks good.

I t hink its great that Shanny bought in Duke, im waiting to see David Terrel activated soon also, i think these guys can help us complete our passing game and really help is in the long run..The great thing is about Duke that theres really no film to evaulate or study for other teams about us using Duke, therefore he should be lethal in the games..

Atlas
12-19-2005, 12:39 PM
I t hink its great that Shanny bought in Duke, im waiting to see David Terrel activated soon also, i think these guys can help us complete our passing game and really help is in the long run..The great thing is about Duke that theres really no film to evaulate or study for other teams about us using Duke, therefore he should be lethal in the games..

Terrell needs to get some playing time before the playoffs. What's the holdup?? It's not like Devoe has done anything since Philly.

DarkHorse30
12-19-2005, 01:14 PM
John Elway is "The Duke" here.

Pfftttt. Elway got his number retired....I think that's about enough of a send off.

Odysseus
12-19-2005, 01:28 PM
I've been on the Duke bandwagon since he was picked up but geez you guys are way amped up.

I heard a rumor they are dropping Watts and bringing back Jerry Rice.

(I kid! I kid!)

bombquixote
12-19-2005, 04:16 PM
that catch by lelie...wow! what a conundrum this kid is. unbelievably talented and yet...it's like he's so gifted he can only focus and express his full potential at extemely difficult moments. how can he catch that pass and miss the one that hit him in stride 20 yards downfield when he was wide open? weird.

baja
12-19-2005, 04:24 PM
The ankles broken on the Darrius Watts bandwagon are all healed up and ready to jump on the Duke bandwagon.

My ankles are fine because I never got off the Watts bandwagon I still thing he will be great here in Denver

baja
12-19-2005, 04:27 PM
A positive post on my part and I get mostly negativity. Duke has alot of upside to me. He is a big target and that is really all I'm saying.

Welcome to the new mane

BTW I too am stoked about Duke, dude has silky moves

Clockwork Orange
12-19-2005, 04:54 PM
Lelie has to find a way to make himself a viable threat in the red zone. The only pattern I ever see him run inside the 20 seems to be the fade and that's just not enough. I love what he brings to the offense, but he's got to become a better route runner to be anything more than a one-trick pony.

I will say that his catch in Buffalo was an absolute jaw dropper.

SoCalBronco
12-19-2005, 05:30 PM
Can't we just call him Wesley???

http://www.sitcomsonline.com/photos/chewettbbeckham.jpg

"Wesley!!!!!"

ScottXray
12-19-2005, 09:38 PM
I remember the preseason game that Duke played in (Houston?)...He reminds me of Sharpe...BIG and he gets open, with the same kind of smooth moves...I think he has great potential...and I hope he fulfills it..as a Bronco!:charge:

Popps
12-19-2005, 11:41 PM
The staff must have some confidence in Duke to be bringing him in at this point in the season. Good to see. Bummer that Watts has been the forgotten guy. He's got freakish ability. Maybe we'll give him another chance at some point. People say he doesn't play special teams. What about returning punts or kicks? He must just be a crappy practice player. Shanahan doesn't mess with guys like that.

On a side note, I've seen some Moulds talk start to spring up around here. Count me in on that. If he can grow up a bit and fit into our system, that could be a much more affordable option than going after Wayne, etc.

broncos-rock
12-19-2005, 11:59 PM
Did anyone catch Kyle Johnson with Wesley Duke on Broncos live? Kyle is pretty freaking hillarious and Duke seems very humble. Kyle was saying how Wesley puts in extra work and he thinks he is going to be an all-pro. The best part was Kyle doing his impression of Shannon Sharpe. Very Funny!!!LOL

DBroncos4life
12-20-2005, 12:08 AM
So this seems like it was a bad idea to move him to TE. Not that I'm THAT high on the guy but he does have size. What now for him?

Billy Clyde Puckett
12-20-2005, 05:14 AM
So this seems like it was a bad idea to move him to TE. Not that I'm THAT high on the guy but he does have size. What now for him?

Of course the answer is:

"Would you like fries with that?" :)

Merlin
12-20-2005, 06:18 AM
Lelie has to find a way to make himself a viable threat in the red zone. The only pattern I ever see him run inside the 20 seems to be the fade and that's just not enough. I love what he brings to the offense, but he's got to become a better route runner to be anything more than a one-trick pony.

I will say that his catch in Buffalo was an absolute jaw dropper.
The reason he may have trouble in the RZ is because he seems to lack the skills (strength?) to get off cleanly from the LOS

Elway 4 Life
12-20-2005, 08:15 AM
The staff must have some confidence in Duke to be bringing him in at this point in the season. Good to see. Bummer that Watts has been the forgotten guy. He's got freakish ability. Maybe we'll give him another chance at some point. People say he doesn't play special teams. What about returning punts or kicks? He must just be a crappy practice player. Shanahan doesn't mess with guys like that.

On a side note, I've seen some Moulds talk start to spring up around here. Count me in on that. If he can grow up a bit and fit into our system, that could be a much more affordable option than going after Wayne, etc.

I second Moulds as a bronco. I dont see it happening he is a huge crowd favorite and a damn good player. They will pay him or they are very stupid.

fontaine
12-20-2005, 08:21 AM
I second Moulds as a bronco. I dont see it happening he is a huge crowd favorite and a damn good player. They will pay him or they are very stupid.

I think he counts almost $11million against the cap when they already have Lee Evans and Josh Reed. He's already admitted that he may not be back in Buffalo.

I think a trade of Pryce for Moulds would make sense since Buffalo are so crap against the run, but they might cut him outright for the cap savings and Moulds would command around $7-8 million in a weak WR class.

DarkHorse30
12-20-2005, 08:26 AM
I think he counts almost $11million against the cap when they already have Lee Evans and Josh Reed. He's already admitted that he may not be back in Buffalo.

I think a trade of Pryce for Moulds would make sense since Buffalo are so crap against the run, but they might cut him outright for the cap savings and Moulds would command around $7-8 million in a weak WR class.

Best idea I've heard. Trading Pryce is a good move, because I don't think he will be a motivated player next year.

Elway 4 Life
12-20-2005, 08:28 AM
I think he counts almost $11million against the cap when they already have Lee Evans and Josh Reed. He's already admitted that he may not be back in Buffalo.

I think a trade of Pryce for Moulds would make sense since Buffalo are so crap against the run, but they might cut him outright for the cap savings and Moulds would command around $7-8 million in a weak WR class.

You could be right but evans and reed do not look like they are ready to take the helm yet.

fontaine
12-21-2005, 01:24 AM
You could be right but evans and reed do not look like they are ready to take the helm yet.

You may be right about Reed about I think Evans will be great next year and I think they'll need Moulds' $11million cap space to improve that defense, lock up Nate Clements etc so I still think Moulds walks.

If we can't get him then I think we should throw a 3rd rounder for Charles Rogers who I think could be a stud in the right offense and also because there's not much else available.

DBroncos4life
12-21-2005, 01:35 AM
josh reed is fa next year.

Billy Clyde Puckett
12-21-2005, 05:15 AM
I don't remember any previous problems with Moulds in the NFL, but wasn't he the guy who took all sorts of crap before his draft because he sat on the sideline at an all star game and ordered a pizza to be delivered?

broncohaven
12-21-2005, 06:32 AM
What I like about Duke is his attitude. When he cuaght those two passes in the preseason, he was looking for someone to lay the wood to. I'm sick of watching Putzier catch the ball and then wait for someone to hit him. He just trots along standing straight up. I've never seen Putz drop a shoulder on a guy, ever.

Duke caught two passes in the preseason, and he lowered the boom on both of them. We need that from a TE.

Rock Chalk
12-21-2005, 06:53 AM
What I like about Duke is his attitude. When he cuaght those two passes in the preseason, he was looking for someone to lay the wood to. I'm sick of watching Putzier catch the ball and then wait for someone to hit him. He just trots along standing straight up. I've never seen Putz drop a shoulder on a guy, ever.

Duke caught two passes in the preseason, and he lowered the boom on both of them. We need that from a TE.
Then you havent been paying attention. Putz has laid wood on defenders when he has had the chance to turn upfield and run.

royr17
12-21-2005, 07:23 AM
Just wanted to drop by and say that Wesley Duke guy could become something special for yall guys, I mean he was a basketball player, but these guys were basketball players also, Gonzalez, Gates, and I believe Fred Jones was too.

Now a days it seems like the basketball players that become football players are better tight ends cause of having to rebound.

Mediator12
12-21-2005, 07:31 AM
What I like about Duke is his attitude. When he cuaght those two passes in the preseason, he was looking for someone to lay the wood to. I'm sick of watching Putzier catch the ball and then wait for someone to hit him. He just trots along standing straight up. I've never seen Putz drop a shoulder on a guy, ever.

Duke caught two passes in the preseason, and he lowered the boom on both of them. We need that from a TE.

Call me crazy, but I personally would rather have a TE that leads in YAC than one who wants to lay wood. Putz has run for 12 first downs where he caught the ball short of the marker this year. That is pretty damn impressive.

Rock Chalk
12-21-2005, 07:50 AM
Call me crazy, but I personally would rather have a TE that leads in YAC than one who wants to lay wood. Putz has run for 12 first downs where he caught the ball short of the marker this year. That is pretty damn impressive.
See, we can agree.

broncosteven
12-21-2005, 09:05 AM
I want to see more from Duke before I jump his Bandwagon.

David Terrrel looked like a Stud at Michigan but was an inconsistent bust with Duh Bears. If he was practicing better he would have won the 3'rd or 4th job away by now & would have been active he will either be camp bait or good enought to contribute. Either way we will still need another WR in this Draft or FA market.

BTW Moulds is a Flava Clown & I would rather have TO than Moulds on my Team. At least TO knows he is on his last straw, Moulds is where TO was before he signed with the Eagles in Flava Clownness level.

broncohaven
12-21-2005, 03:59 PM
Then you havent been paying attention. Putz has laid wood on defenders when he has had the chance to turn upfield and run.
I've watched each of the games this season at least three times. Except for the Bills. I've only seen that on twice thus far, and not once have I seen Putz drop a helmet on someone. I've seen him get drilled on a number of ocassions, if you consider that "laying wood", but he never inititates contact.

As for your comment Mediator. Putz's YAC stats are the system. He doesn't run through guys or make moves, he just catches the ball in space a lot. His catch and fumble in the 3rd qtr is a perfect example. He was pinned on the sideline, and instead of punish the CB, who he outweighs by a good 40 pounds, he allows the CB to be the aggressor and ends up fumbling on the play. Watch tape and you'll see that on the majority of his catches once he has the first down he looks like he's just waiting to be tackled.

Don't get me wrong, I like the kid a lot. I think he has tremendous skills and is an asset to the team, but he needs to get a little fight in him. I think that's why his blocking is his weakest link, he lacks the mean streak you need to bury guys. Duke has that aggression that I think Putz is lacking. He's not afraid to stick his nose in there and grind on defenders.

The Big E
12-21-2005, 04:06 PM
I don't remember any previous problems with Moulds in the NFL, but wasn't he the guy who took all sorts of crap before his draft because he sat on the sideline at an all star game and ordered a pizza to be delivered?
You're thinking of that Spicoli kid from Ridgemont.

Cleo McDowell
12-21-2005, 04:36 PM
You're thinking of that Spicoli kid from Ridgemont.

LMAO! duuude..

http://www.ninos-sa.org/nostalgia/images/spicoli04_jpeg.jpg

The Big E
12-21-2005, 04:55 PM
LMAO! duuude..

http://www.ninos-sa.org/nostalgia/images/spicoli04_jpeg.jpg
No matter what Sean Penn ever does, no matter how much of an ass he may be, I will always like him because of that role. :thumbs: