"Around the Horn"-Buy or Sell...

[OrangeShadow]

its kind of a fun game to play so...


Buy or sell Denver getting the #2 seed...

[Hercules Rockefeller]

Sell. Cincy has one tough game left @KC, and I don't like @SD or a primetime game in Buffalo.

[DrFate]

I'll buy. San Diego is overrated and we should beat BUF.

(We could very well lose to the Chargers, but they are no where as good as they hype the media has given them all year)

[Lidderer]

I'll buy. San Diego is overrated and we should beat BUF.

(We could very well lose to the Chargers, but they are no where as good as they hype the media has given them all year)

they pretty much beat us in denver in week 2. were it not for a herculean(rockafellian?) effort by our d in the 2nd half, that game was theirs.

5 losses by a combined 15 pts. That team is probably the greatest 8-5 or whatever team ever. just because the media hypes a team doesn't mean the team isn't worthy of it.

[ro_50]

Great teams find a way to win the close games.

They are a good team but not that great, especially considering how bad the media butt kisses them

The Redskins have lost a lot of close games as well, but no one in the media is saying they are the greatest 7-6 team ever.

I think its a bunch of BS talk.

The Chargers are good, but come on, not GREAT.

They lost to the Dolphins at home in a must-win game.

[Mile High Shack]

they pretty much beat us in denver in week 2. were it not for a herculean(rockafellian?) effort by our d in the 2nd half, that game was theirs.
5 losses by a combined 15 pts. That team is probably the greatest 8-5 or whatever team ever. just because the media hypes a team doesn't mean the team isn't worthy of it.

scoreboard says otherwise

[Hotrod]

I bought early in vegas of the Broncos winning the SB

[Hercules Rockefeller]

they pretty much beat us in denver in week 2. were it not for a herculean(rockafellian?) effort by our d in the 2nd half, that game was theirs.


2 missed FGs, 2 red-zone turnovers and a TD called back (Putz's not DWill's) pretty much show that Denver tried to beat themselves.

[DrFate]

5 losses by a combined 15 pts. That team is probably the greatest 8-5 or whatever team ever. just because the media hypes a team doesn't mean the team isn't worthy of it.

The media has been slurping on this team all year. They are 2 years removed from a 4 win season. You don't go from 4-12 to 12-4 in a year without some breaks. I think the Chargers are a decent team, I think they are in a league with the Chefs. That said, I have seen this team play in person (I was at the Skins game) and the Skins had them beat. They are overrated.

I think they are good enough to play with most teams in this league, and they could certainly beat the Broncos if they play well (or if we play poorly). But calling them the greatest 8-5 team or the best team not to make the playoffs is silly.

[Rock Chalk]

Buy.

Cincy's game in KC is almost assured as a loss. KC's home record in December should be enough to confirm this.

Denver has really only one tough game and thats against SD who just lost at home to Miami.

Denver lost to Miami true, but I think we can all rest assured that the team that showed up in Week 1 is not the team that is fighting for the #2 seed right now. We match up with with SD IMO and while its possible that we lose, it won't matter. We will beat Buff and Jokeland and Cincy will drop the game to KC so in the end, it may not matter if we win or lose against SD.

[Bronco_Beerslug]

Buy.

Cincy's game in KC is almost assured as a loss. KC's home record in December should be enough to confirm this.

Denver has really only one tough game and thats against SD who just lost at home to Miami.

Denver lost to Miami true, but I think we can all rest assured that the team that showed up in Week 1 is not the team that is fighting for the #2 seed right now. We match up with with SD IMO and while its possible that we lose, it won't matter. We will beat Buff and Jokeland and Cincy will drop the game to KC so in the end, it may not matter if we win or lose against SD.
I wouldn't pencil in a KC win over Cincy. If Cincy starts out fast KC may not be able to keep up.

[watermock]

Buy or Sell? Can I just Call?

[manchambo]

One thing to consider is the fact that San Diego will likely be out of playoff contention by the time we play them. I can't see them winning under those circumstances if the Broncos need the game.

[Lidderer]

2 missed FGs, 2 red-zone turnovers and a TD called back (Putz's not DWill's) pretty much show that Denver tried to beat themselves.

it's odd how when a qb stops throwing ints he's lauded for doing a pro-bowl type job, and yet when teams don't make as many mistakes as their opponent they didn't win the game so much as the other team lost it.

SD beat themselves with that int to bailey. we were outplayed in that first-half, and thankfully that 2nd half dominance has translated into this wonderful season.

[Lidderer]

I think they are good enough to play with most teams in this league, and they could certainly beat the Broncos if they play well (or if we play poorly). But calling them the greatest 8-5 team or the best team not to make the playoffs is silly.

can you name me a better 8-5 team this year? any year?

i'm honestly having a hard time thinking of a non-playoff team in recent memory that was as potent as this year's chargers. it's not just hyperbole.

[dbfan4life]

I'll buy. I think the Bengals just mailed it in with that retarded rap video.

[elsid13]

I bought early in vegas of the Broncos winning the SB


So did I, odds 30 to 1. Should have bet more money.

[Mile High Shack]

can you name me a better 8-5 team this year? any year?

i'm honestly having a hard time thinking of a non-playoff team in recent memory that was as potent as this year's chargers. it's not just hyperbole.

49ers of 1991 finished 10-6 and missed the post season

they were #3 in points scored and #4 in points allowed

they had a bad start and tore it up to end the season, the finished with 6 straight wins


| 1 | at New York Giants | L | 14-16 |
| 2 | San Diego Chargers | W | 34-14 |
| 3 | at Minnesota Vikings | L | 14-17 |
| 4 | Los Angeles Rams | W | 27-10 |
| 5 | at Los Angeles Raiders | L | 6-12 |
| 6 | bye |
| 7 | Atlanta Falcons | L | 34-39 |
| 8 | Detroit Lions | W | 35- 3 |
| 9 | at Philadelphia Eagles | W | 23- 7 |
| 10 | at Atlanta Falcons | L | 14-17 |
| 11 | at New Orleans Saints | L | 3-10 |
| 12 | Phoenix Cardinals | W | 14-10 |
| 13 | at Los Angeles Rams | W | 33-10 |
| 14 | New Orleans Saints | W | 38-24 |
| 15 | at Seattle Seahawks | W | 24-22 |
| 16 | Kansas City Chiefs | W | 28-14 |
| 17 | Chicago Bears | W | 52-14

[Mile High Shack]

I'll buy. I think the Bengals just mailed it in with that retarded rap video.

talk about unleashing some bad mojo against your team

that was bad

[Lidderer]

49ers of 1991 finished 10-6 and missed the post season

they were #3 in points scored and #4 in points allowed



nice work, I stand corrected.

albeit they'd qualify for the playoffs under the new format. technically they were what, a wild card under new rules? or am i wrong about the advent of the expanded playoffs?

nonetheless, score 1 for milehigh shack.

also, what's this bengals rap video?

[Mile High Shack]

nice work, I stand corrected.

albeit they'd qualify for the playoffs under the new format. technically they were what, a wild card under new rules? or am i wrong about the advent of the expanded playoffs?

nonetheless, score 1 for milehigh shack.

also, what's this bengals rap video?

regarding the video

MORE PRIME TIME: Forget the Bears’ Super Bowl Shuffle of 1985. When Sanders arrived on the scene four years later, he single-handedly married MTV and the NFL, and 16 years later they’re living happily ever after.

The Bengals officially went Prime Time on Friday as Cincinnati’s own funk legend Bootsy Collins took over Paul Brown Stadium to shoot a music video for the stadium scoreboards with the help of the players who wrote much of the song, “Fear Da Tiger.” Scott Simpson, executive producer of Jungle Vision Productions, oversaw the shoot that makes its debut in the Nov. 20 game against the Colts.

Collins, wearing a Carson Palmer jersey, got help from Duane Clemons, Ben Wilkerson and Stacy Andrews during the video. Clemons, the team’s self appointed “Director of Entertainment," is a fan of Collins dating back to his James Brown days, and gets a fairly long cameo rap in the video.

After the debut against the Colts, Collins and the video are going to be the subject of a feature on ESPN Hollywood at a date and time to be announced.

I think the 49ers of 1991 barely missed out on a wildcard, the wildcard was in effect that year

[Rock Chalk]

I wouldn't pencil in a KC win over Cincy. If Cincy starts out fast KC may not be able to keep up.
Two words.

Arrowhead.
December

[Rascal]

I'd buy that I think.

I think we will lose to SD, but the bengals will lose to KC. I believe that means we would have the tiebreaker so we would get the #2 seed.

[DrFate]

can you name me a better 8-5 team this year? any year?

i'm honestly having a hard time thinking of a non-playoff team in recent memory that was as potent as this year's chargers. it's not just hyperbole.

The Broncos missed the playoffs with an 11-5 record in 1985.

[DrFate]

The Bolts aren't a bad team. They are a solid football club with some all-pro players.

They just aren't what some of the media pundits claim they are.

[chadta]

can you name me a better 8-5 team this year? any year?

i'm honestly having a hard time thinking of a non-playoff team in recent memory that was as potent as this year's chargers. it's not just hyperbole.

the patriots the from a few years before they won there first superbowl, they went 8 and 8 and lost by a total of 17 points in all 8 losses, (or something like that)

i told my brother in law who is a pats fan, that they were close to being a good team, i guess i was right there, i cant say the same about the chargers.

[BigPlayShay]

Buy or Sell, which really means Pessimist or Optimist because no one really knows what will happen in the next 3 weeks.

I am an optimist though. So I am buying.

[Old Dude]

Two words.

Arrowhead.
December

But technically, the game is in January, isn't it?

What's the Chiefs record in January?

[BigPlayShay]

But technically, the game is in January, isn't it?

What's the Chiefs record in January?

Not sure what thier record is, but one loss comes to mind :laugh:

[Rock Chalk]

But technically, the game is in January, isn't it?

What's the Chiefs record in January?
Hmm, I thought the game was on December 31st.

[broncoblue]

uk odds at the bookies are....
Indianapolis 4/5 BET
Seattle 6/1 BET
Denver 12/1 BET
Cincinnati 14/1 BET
N.Y.Giants 14/1 BET
New England 16/1 BET
Tampa Bay 20/1 BET
Chicago 20/1 BET
Carolina 20/1 BET
Minnesota 33/1 BET
Jacksonville 33/1 BET
Pittsburgh 33/1 BET
Atlanta 40/1 BET
Dallas 40/1 BET
Kansas City 50/1 BET
San Diego 50/1 BET
Washington 100/1 BET

Each-way bets on 2 places at 1/3 odds

[minibronco]

Buy. We will beat the Raiders, the Bills, and the Chargers, and if need be, the Patriots :)

[DBroncos4life]

We only have to really beat Buffalo and split the next two games. We would get the number two spot unless Cin wins out.

[OrangeShadow]

ok back to the game...

buy or sell: the texans throwing games to get reggie bush

[terry251973]

im selling this crap of sd beating indy.the only other team that gets as much hype as the colts is the chuggers.although i cant stand indy atleast they are undefeated so the hype can be backed up.with the chuggers,their hype is based on them having a qb that had 1 good year,a good rb and a tightend.if sd stays within 14 of the colts it will surprise me.

[REB]

ok back to the game...

buy or sell: the texans throwing games to get reggie bush


LOL I'm buying both

[FantomForce]

I'm buying, can we win out YES, will we YES, Cincy will not win in KC that i promise. We need to survive today buy o 50 or so and then lock into our confrence games remaing

[watermock]

The Broncos missed the playoffs with an 11-5 record in 1985.

Meanwhile, the Browns (I think) took the central with what I believe was an 8-8 record...

[OrangeShadow]

you guys suck at this game lol

[Sassy]

I'm buying, can we win out YES, will we YES, Cincy will not win in KC that i promise. We need to survive today buy o 50 or so and then lock into our confrence games remaing

I don't think KC will beat the Giants...much less Cincy.

[watermock]

Buy or Sell...the Fords finally thowing Matt Millen into the Detroit River....or better yet...give him a brand new free Ford, with no brakes....let's call it the Gerald Warren special edition...

Yes, tasteless, but still funny IMO...the NFL needs to concentrate a bit more on lost players...many have only played football and don't have real skills...they shouldn't be candidates for the United Way...

It's sad how Warren fell off the cliff, and he wasn't driving, but you say to the other fool...SLOW THE HELL DOWN YOU MORON....you know they had pulled an all nighter...do you think they were headed for Denny's at 6AM for a wake up beakfast and tomato juice?

I've gone home with some impariment, but never ever speed...i'm the guy pulled over for going too slow...

This family has many speed demons, and have calmed down...times have changed...We have had Caddilac 500's...SS Nova 482's...'66 SS Impalas...Rocket Cutlass, Lemans short block 400 which ended its career on the dirt track, and SJ 400 Grand Prix...

There used to be alot of crazy cars...oh well...

Sad, but those days are long over...

[TD4HOF]

Gerald Warren? Who's that and what's this falling off a cliff stuff?

[Lidderer]

when i'm right, i'm right

[missingnumber7]

I'm gonna sell because I think that the cholkes are gonna lose out and finish 13-3 and have the #2 seed so we can take the #1 seed.



Hey its christmas I can wish.

[Mile High Shack]

I'm gonna sell because I think that the cholkes are gonna lose out and finish 13-3 and have the #2 seed so we can take the #1 seed.



Hey its christmas I can wish.

you'd have to reverse time as well

Colts already have the #1 seed locked up