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12-09-2005, 02:22 AM
it ends with "everyone will still listen a little to their mom.."
What the hell happened to the whip in the family?
When did MOM start laying down the law, but more so, why toes the commecial totally disregard the father...
Where do you do with that? It's the responsibility of both parents, ESPECIALLY THE FATHER to keep your kid from smoking, but all the advertisment from the government mentions is MOM...WTF is with that...shouldn't it say A PARENT should talk to the child...OR BOTH..better yet, when in the hell did Mom become the enforcer?
I couldn't believe my eyes...thousands of years men laid down the law to their sons, and the ad only mentions MOM...
hard to say what school you came from, but my mom scolded, my dad laid down the law...
12-09-2005, 02:27 AM
Historically, Mom is the sympathiser and the Father had the reponsibility of being the bad guy...Look at this rationally, mom comforts, dad disciplines...why are they telling Mom to discipline kids for smoking?
When my dad told me to jump, I jumped...mom was always the soft voice of comfort...I don't get the add whatsoever...why does the government think that mom is the one to lay down the law?
Oh, never mind...it was probably made by the ad council or some other idiot group...
But seriously, when was it Mom's responsibility to talk to the kid...the ad doesn't even say PARENTS..i'm MOM...just MOM...I couldn't believe it...If this is a matriarchal society we are in deep shiat..men tell their kids how to behave where i grew up, women taught them manners....
Women pulled men off the kid not from abuse, but from self shame...the man would dicipline on big matters, and if he was mean, Mom would comfort a bit and confirm it but pull Dad off it...I'm not saying Dads abused kids, but that was a tradional role...Dad laid down the law, mom sofened it a little, but didn't break the law...
So why is the goverment telling MOM's to lay down the law and not mention men whatsoever?
12-09-2005, 02:29 AM
i know what you're saying mock, but advertisers find that using something familiar(like 'mom', or 'bro', or some shorthand that denotes closeness and informality) tends to increase viewer response and relatability to things like warnings.
remember how those old anti-drug commercials were just messages from like a president or his wife and how those had little effect? then they changed them to scenes of actual harm in order for the point to 'hit home' more.
And while it's an inditement to our society, the fact is that there are a lot of children out there with just mothers.
12-09-2005, 02:39 AM
Women pulled adult men off kids when the father was hostile...they historicaly have protected them...
I just take exception from that ad that the MOM is supposed to talk to the kid...when I talk to my kid I talk as an authority figure...he knows he doesn't have to follow me, because he's on his own, but mom is the comforter traditionally...
I don't get that ad...oh never mind...god I must be old....
12-09-2005, 02:41 AM
facts are that a lot of children from single-parent families, since they are lacking that dominant figure you speak of, are more inclined to venture out into rebellious acts like smoking and whatnot, which puts the honus on the only parent(usually a mother) to correct their indiscretion.
That said, i'm sure there are other, more family-inclusive, ads out there that acknowledge the standard of which you speak.
12-09-2005, 02:43 AM
I thought about the fact many kids had single moms...but they usually have a partner, so it still applies...
If the mom has to enforce, she enforces, but the fact is, there is usually a man there to lay down the law...you thow the cigs out in the snow...I don't care if your a boyfriend...if the kid throws a fit, THEN IT'S TIME FOR MOM TO LAY DOWN THE LAW...that's just my opinion...I just know what has worked in the past...if that makes me a traditionalist retard sue me...the man laid down the law, the mom wiped the tears...
12-09-2005, 02:44 AM
What irritated me is they didn't even mention the father in the article...I don't have a problem with the mother giving discipline if needed...but why totally act like there is no father or guardian? That's what astounded me...
12-09-2005, 02:46 AM
time to cancel your subscription to woman's wear daily then
12-09-2005, 02:48 AM
I'm done, but the ad is paid with taxpayer money, and they don't even mention the father talking to the kid about smoking...just the mother...it's asounding...at least say the parents should, or whatever...it was just so politically correct to make me puke...
12-09-2005, 02:48 AM
The ad was on TBS, I'm watching Stripes...that a funny movie...
"We are mutts...our noses are cold...who cried when old yeller got shot...so we are all dog faces, but we were all stuid enough to enlist....it's incredibly funny..."
12-09-2005, 02:50 AM
turner's too busy tending to his various corporate duties to be there to scold his kid. it was probably a message with the demographic of: ted turner's son, who better start listening to his mom or else.
12-09-2005, 02:52 AM
Well, he's probably payijng 50K a month to Hanoi Jane...
12-09-2005, 02:56 AM
Gawd that Stripes movie is funny...when you put your mind to it...
12-09-2005, 03:02 AM
I think Mock made a case for the commercial without knowing it. Dad doesn't need a commercial to tell him to lay down the law. Kids with strong dads won't smoke. The commercial targets broken families with single moms. Somebody needs to tell mom that the kids will listen.
12-17-2005, 03:59 PM
Yeah women can't discipline anyone, what do they know? Baking, that's what.
Back in my day I had a traditional family; mother would bake cookies while father spanked me with his belt after getting home from the steel mill