What position do we need in the draft next year if...

[Ozzy7455]

we keep all the players we have now. I say Safety, Receiver, O-line, and then a speed rusher. I think we need a good Safety. I like Lynch and he is good but he is getting up there in the years and can be a liablity on deep passes. We have no speed at safety which doesnt make sense considering we have a such a fast defense our linebackers are literally faster then our safties. Brandon is faster but no burner, we have Lynch who runs a 4.75 and Fergie who runs a 4.65 which is faster then Kennedy(4.78) was but still is to slow we need that fast explosive safety. I thought Michael Lewis should have been picked a couple of years ago, but the Eagles got him instead. We need a speedy guy there this year and for the future.

[Broncoman13]

Speed Rusher #1. Saftey #2. OG/OT #3. WR #3a.

Don't forget about Brandon Browner either. He's gonna be a player for us! I like him at FS.

[DBroncos4life]

Speed Rusher #1. Saftey #2. OG/OT #3. WR #3a.

Don't forget about Brandon Browner either. He's gonna be a player for us! I like him at FS.



I would flip 2 and 3 around but thats just me. Here would be some ideas that I could live with.

1a). Kiwa
1b). Bing
2). Avent or Hass

1a). Holmes or Hagan
1b). Dumervil
2). Bullocks

I don't know the best place for Davin Joseph to go. He might be the best fit size wise for us at the guard spot though. Either way if we could land one of these guys (Kiwa, Holmes, Mario Williams, Bing, Hagan or Dumervil) I think we are doing well.

[Mr. Trout]

Based on what I have read and seen from Texas games I think Michael Huff would be a hell of a pick. I do agree on the 4 needs. DL, OL, S, WR. Does anybody know anything about Jovon Bouknight WR from Wyoming. The so called draft gurus write good stuff about him but I haven't seen any Wyoming games or highlights.

[Jens1893]

Should Santonio Holmes´ size be a reason for concern?

[Hercules Rockefeller]

DT, FS, OL, a playmaker somewhere on offense

[Play2win]

Massive DT, FS, Speed Rush DE, OL and WR/TE (someone who could attack the middle of the field, sit in pockets and get 20 yard a pop and move the chains...)

[Perry1977]

Based on what I have read and seen from Texas games I think Michael Huff would be a hell of a pick. I do agree on the 4 needs. DL, OL, S, WR. Does anybody know anything about Jovon Bouknight WR from Wyoming. The so called draft gurus write good stuff about him but I haven't seen any Wyoming games or highlights.

NOW you're talking!! Bouknight with a 5th round pick would be incredible, and would pay off in dividends compared to drafting some guy in the first round that would be a second rounder in most other drafts.

He's caught at least 2 passes in 36 consecutive games, leads the NCAA in that category...the big knock on him is his speed. From what I can tell he's probably in the high 4.4 to low 4.5 range, which is slow. But isn't that what everybody wants, a "possession" receiver? Plus, he's from Denver, so a hometown pick would be cool.

1a) Pass rushing DE....Kiwi, Williams, or Dumervil
1b) TE or OT...Davis, Lewis -or- Winston, Colledge
2) OT if we take a TE with previous, Safety Otherwise
3) RB DonTrell Moore (We always take a RB, and this one's perfect), maybe WR if Sinorice Moss is still avail.
4a) (From WASH) RB if not taken previously or OG/O-line depth
4b) OG/O-line depth if not previously, or WR like Bouknight
4c) (Compensatory-Kennedy) Kicker if the Buffs kicker comes out...probably not though, possibly a Special Teams type 'backer
5. Best available for what we didn't fill
6. Best available for what we didn't fill

[DBroncos4life]

NOW you're talking!! Bouknight with a 5th round pick would be incredible, and would pay off in dividends compared to drafting some guy in the first round that would be a second rounder in most other drafts.

He's caught at least 2 passes in 36 consecutive games, leads the NCAA in that category...the big knock on him is his speed. From what I can tell he's probably in the high 4.4 to low 4.5 range, which is slow. But isn't that what everybody wants, a "possession" receiver? Plus, he's from Denver, so a hometown pick would be cool.

1a) Pass rushing DE....Kiwi, Williams, or Dumervil
1b) TE or OT...Davis, Lewis -or- Winston, Colledge
2) OT if we take a TE with previous, Safety Otherwise
3) RB DonTrell Moore (We always take a RB, and this one's perfect), maybe WR if Sinorice Moss is still avail.
4a) (From WASH) RB if not taken previously or OG/O-line depth
4b) OG/O-line depth if not previously, or WR like Bouknight
4c) (Compensatory-Kennedy) Kicker if the Buffs kicker comes out...probably not though, possibly a Special Teams type 'backer
5. Best available for what we didn't fill
6. Best available for what we didn't fill

We will get more comp picks then that.
Herndon 5 year 15 million dollar contract 5 million dollar bonus
KK 4 year 14 million dollar contract 4.4 million dollar bonus
Hayward 5 year 25 million dollar contract 10 million dollar bonus

Also if the Bluffs kicker comes out he will be a 2nd round pick. My guess to the Cowboys. He could be the greatest kicker ever coming out of college.

[Mr. Trout]

Buffs kicker Crosby is staying in school

[Mr. Trout]

For comp picks I am estimating two fourth rounders for Herndon and Kennedy, and a 3rd for Hayward. That sounds fair.

[Hercules Rockefeller]

Herndon is not eligible for a comp pick, he was an RFA.

[DBroncos4life]

Herndon is not eligible for a comp pick, he was RFA.



Thats right and we "tagged" Walls or whatever the hell we did to him. That was a great move.

[Hercules Rockefeller]

Spragan was another UFA Denver lost, but you have to balance DS, KK, and RH with Alexander and I believe Dayne.

[SoCalBronco]

Spragan was another UFA Denver lost, but you have to balance DS, KK, and RH with Alexander and I believe Dayne.

What do you think we will end up with? any gut feeling? 2 4ths maybe?

[DBroncos4life]

What do you think we will end up with? any gut feeling? 2 4ths maybe?


I still think we get a third and a fourth but thats just me. Hey SoCal any guess to where Moss will go? With his brother having his best year and another short WR having a MVP type year do you think his stock will climb? I have him as a mid second round pick. Thoughts?

[Hercules Rockefeller]

What do you think we will end up with? any gut feeling? 2 4ths maybe?

I think RH will still stand on his own, Dayne (if he was a UFA) and Spragan will wash, and I'm not completely sure how it would go with SA and KK. Do they simply wash each other out, or does SA downgrade what KK would bring by himself?

I have no clue, 3rd and a 5th or 6th maybe.

[SoCalBronco]

I still think we get a third and a fourth but thats just me. Hey SoCal any guess to where Moss will go? With his brother having his best year and another short WR having a MVP type year do you think his stock will climb? I have him as a mid second round pick. Thoughts?

I'd prolly throwup if we burned a second on him. I think he is a 4th round talent. Despite being small like his brother, he doesnt have the electricity, explosiveness, shiftyness, hops, consistency of a Santana Moss, although he is fast generally speaking. Also despite being small, Santana was very strong, which Sinorice isnt. I think Sinorice is a very late first day, or early 2nd day player. Mid 2nd round would be a major reach in my opinion. 4th Round.

[Perry1977]

Just a fourth. ;)

[SoCalBronco]

I think RH will still stand on his own, Dayne (if he was a UFA) and Spragan will wash, and I'm not completely sure how it would go with SA and KK. Do they simply wash each other out, or does SA downgrade what KK would bring by himself?

I have no clue, 3rd and a 5th or 6th maybe.

I would be happy with that. IIRC, around last year you said the player's salary is a big part of the formula, although the league doesnt specify everything they take into account. If thats true, it would seem that the loss of KK would be significantly greater than the addition of Alexander.

[DBroncos4life]

I'd prolly throwup if we burned a second on him. I think he is a 4th round talent. Despite being small like his brother, he doesnt have the electricity, explosiveness, quickness, hops, consistency of a Santana Moss, although he is fast generally speaking. Also despite being small, Santana was very strong, which Sinorice isnt. I think Sinorice is a very late first day, or early 2nd day player. Mid 2nd round would be a major reach in my opinion. 4th Round.


I see. I thought he would move up in the draft. Something tells me he will have a very good 40 time but thats just a guess. I kind of was taking that into my thinking. He's on my list of WR's though. Personally I would rather draft Hass or Bouknight but I think Moss goes off the board before them. There are some WR's in the top ten ranking wise that I question, thats why I moved Moss up.

He is the good return guy right?

[Hercules Rockefeller]

I would be happy with that. IIRC, around last year you said the player's salary is a big part of the formula, although the league doesnt specify everything they take into account. If thats true, it would seem that the loss of KK would be significantly greater than the addition of Alexander.

Yep, that's why I'm not sure what they'll do because of the disparity in their deals. It's either a total wash or a partial wash, guess we'll know what they do for '07, just like we learned last year that signing players who were cut don't count in the "signed" category.

[SoCalBronco]

I see. I thought he would move up in the draft. Something tells me he will have a very good 40 time but thats just a guess. I kind of was taking that into my thinking. He's on my list of WR's though. Personally I would rather draft Hass or Bouknight but I think Moss goes off the board before them. There are some WR's in the top ten ranking wise that I question, thats why I moved Moss up.

He is the good return guy right?

Hass does not have good measurables and I doubt he will run well so he will drop a little bit. He will probably be there in the middle of the draft despite being very, very productive and seemingly having "it". I havent heard about Bouknight before, who is he? BTW, is that BugEater TE Herian going to come out, or is he going to try and come back from that injury again and play another year?

I really, really want Samardjzia. I hope he comes out. He's probably my favorite recieving prospect in the entire draft.

And yes, Sinorice Moss can be a good returner (he has been on returns only occasionally though, mostly they have used Hester for that role), although if we are going to just burn a Day Two pick on an exclusive return demon, Bloom of Colorado is a more explosive option.

[DBroncos4life]

Hass does not have good measurables and I doubt he will run well so he will drop a little bit. He will probably be there in the middle of the draft despite being very, very productive and seemingly having "it". I havent heard about Bouknight before, who is he? BTW, is that BugEater TE Herian going to come out, or is he going to try and come back from that injury again and play another year?

I really, really want Samardjzia. I hope he comes out. He's probably my favorite recieving prospect in the entire draft.

And yes, Sinorice Moss can be a good returner (he has been on returns only occasionally though, mostly they have used Hester for that role), although if we are going to just burn a Day Two pick on an exclusive return demon, Bloom of Colorado is a more explosive option.


Really you don't think Hass has good measurables? Bouknight is from went to college at Wyoming. He should be under the radar some. I believe he was born in the Denver area so it would be nice for him to come home. Here's his stats.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/player/profile?playerId=116535

Matt Herian should get a medical redshirt. From what I have read its a 50/50 chance he will even play again but from the sound of other he is running and progressing well. I doubt he will enter the draft this year and if he plays football again I doubt its at the level he was playing at before the injury. Its too bad though he was a very good TE. Can't say I know much about Samardjzia. My guy that I want is either Hagan or Hass but I think you know that :).

[SoCalBronco]

If we keep everyone (very unlikely I think), I feel they will go RB and WR in Round 1. MA is really getting up there, and we need that big time power element. White may be the pick or Maroney, due to his familiarity with a similar running system. Big possession WR at 1B. Weve been allocating alot of resources, both in terms of FA and the Draft the last few years for the Defense, I think there is going to be an infusion of talent on offense if we can keep that DL relatively intact and Lepsis stays onboard. The team knows Tater is not going to be a 20-25 carry per game back and he certainly isnt going to get a big payday here. They will continue to use him in his 10-15 per game role after wearing teams down with power. White would fill our power role extremely well.

[NFLBRONCO]

If we keep everyone (very unlikely I think), I feel they will go RB and WR in Round 1. MA is really getting up there, and we need that big time power element. White may be the pick or Maroney, due to his familiarity with a similar running system. Big possession WR at 1B. Weve been allocating alot of resources, both in terms of FA and the Draft the last few years for the Defense, I think there is going to be an infusion of talent on offense if we can keep that DL relatively intact and Lepsis stays onboard. The team knows Tater is not going to be a 20-25 carry per game back and he certainly isnt going to get a big payday here. They will continue to use him in his 10-15 per game role after wearing teams down with power. White would fill our power role extremely well.

I think Warren and Pryce decisions before draft might alter draft plans. I think signing Warren will be tougher then most fans think.

[SoCalBronco]

I think Warren and Pryce decisions before draft might alter draft plans.

and Brown. I really hope we arent going to have a DL problem for the umpteenth year in a row this offseason. We finally got a decent one, hopefully they can keep it together. I do think we are going to have to get a DE somewhere on Day 1 though. Pryce is still over 30 if he is kept and Brown, even with a restructured deal is still an injury concern for the future despite this healthy year. Really outside of those guys all we have is Ekuban (who only has 1 more year on his contract) and Engelberger.

[DBroncos4life]

If we keep everyone (very unlikely I think), I feel they will go RB and WR in Round 1. MA is really getting up there, and we need that big time power element. White may be the pick or Maroney, due to his familiarity with a similar running system. Big possession WR at 1B. Weve been allocating alot of resources, both in terms of FA and the Draft the last few years for the Defense, I think there is going to be an infusion of talent on offense if we can keep that DL relatively intact and Lepsis stays onboard. The team knows Tater is not going to be a 20-25 carry per game back and he certainly isnt going to get a big payday here. They will continue to use him in his 10-15 per game role after wearing teams down with power. White would fill our power role extremely well.


I just can't see us using a first round pick on a RB. I think Dayne stays but thats just me. I can't see any other team picking him up. That would leave us with Dayne as our main back and Tater doing his thing. As for WR's I would LOVE Denver picking up Moulds because he is a FA next year. That should solve that problem. Depending on who is there I think we go with one of the DE's in the draft. We know we need speed on the end and thats why I think Dumervil gets looked at hard here. I also think the team is very high on Browner for FS leaving a need for SS. Thats why I hope we draft Bullocks, unlike his twin that plays for NO, Daniel is very good at run support. He also has pretty good hands making him a good pick in the second round. Now I hope that the team uses a first on one of the stud tackles. Eric Winston would be a good pick. I think Lepsis stays with us we give Eric another year to heal and learn and then move Lepsis to Guard and Hamilton down to Center. The QB that I have my eye on would be Paul Pinegar. I don't know alot about him but his size and stats make him a good target for one of our comp picks we could land.

[DBroncos4life]

Remember SoCal we also have Cedric Cobbs waiting to get his shot. Something tells me he might play a big role next year.

[SoCalBronco]

I just can't see us using a first round pick on a RB. I think Dayne stays but thats just me. I can't see any other team picking him up. That would leave us with Dayne as our main back and Tater doing his thing. As for WR's I would LOVE Denver picking up Moulds because he is a FA next year. That should solve that problem. Depending on who is there I think we go with one of the DE's in the draft. We know we need speed on the end and thats why I think Dumervil gets looked at hard here. I also think the team is very high on Browner for FS leaving a need for SS. Thats why I hope we draft Bullocks, unlike his twin that plays for NO, Daniel is very good at run support. He also has pretty good hands making him a good pick in the second round. Now I hope that the team uses a first on one of the stud tackles. Eric Winston would be a good pick. I think Lepsis stays with us we give Eric another year to heal and learn and then move Lepsis to Guard and Hamilton down to Center. The QB that I have my eye on would be Paul Pinegar. I don't know alot about him but his size and stats make him a good target for one of our comp picks we could land.

Dumervill will not be drafted high at all. He is 6 feet flat, thats awful for a defensive end and he is only about 255. Thats terrible numbers, especially the height. I think if Lepsis stays, we wont go OT at all in the entire draft. Its going to cost a pretty penny to keep him, the team isnt going to put in a pick after giving him cash. I do think they are going to go with a guard or center somewhere though, since Nalen is gone and Cooper signed only a 2 yr. deal and is only adequate, despite having a decent year.

[DBroncos4life]

Dumervill will not be drafted high at all. He is 6 feet flat, thats awful for a defensive end and he is only about 255. Thats terrible numbers, especially the height. I think if Lepsis stays, we wont go OT at all in the entire draft. Its going to cost a pretty penny to keep him, the team isnt going to put in a pick after giving him cash. I do think they are going to go with a guard or center somewhere though, since Nalen is gone and Cooper signed only a 2 yr. deal and is only adequate, despite having a decent year.


While I tend to agree that shorter players tend to get over looked but teams won't over look his 20 sacks and his 8 forced fumbles. I can't help but think if Freeney is doing this well at 6'1" the Dumervil will get looked at in the first round. My thoughts about us taking a tackle are we get one and we let him learn a year then move Lepsis. Going by what I have read it seems that Myers should move into the starting line up next year. My guess is Cooper is the odd man out. What round do you think that Greg Eslinger will go in? I've heard he is a damn good player and I could be wrong but they use the same system we use.

[NFLBRONCO]

and Brown. I really hope we arent going to have a DL problem for the umpteenth year in a row this offseason. We finally got a decent one, hopefully they can keep it together. I do think we are going to have to get a DE somewhere on Day 1 though. Pryce is still over 30 if he is kept and Brown, even with a restructured deal is still an injury concern for the future despite this healthy year. Really outside of those guys all we have is Ekuban (who only has 1 more year on his contract) and Engelberger.


Do you think we will have an easy time signing Warren SoCal?

[NFLBRONCO]

and Brown. I really hope we arent going to have a DL problem for the umpteenth year in a row this offseason. We finally got a decent one, hopefully they can keep it together. I do think we are going to have to get a DE somewhere on Day 1 though. Pryce is still over 30 if he is kept and Brown, even with a restructured deal is still an injury concern for the future despite this healthy year. Really outside of those guys all we have is Ekuban (who only has 1 more year on his contract) and Engelberger.


I agree with you 100% I'd prefer keeping intact DL and not be in our usual DL situation. I'd prefer spending 1 #1 on Def and 1 #1 on Off so we help eacxh side of the ball.

[SoCalBronco]

While I tend to agree that shorter players tend to get over looked but teams won't over look his 20 sacks and his 8 forced fumbles. I can't help but think if Freeney is doing this well at 6'1" the Dumervil will get looked at in the first round. My thoughts about us taking a tackle are we get one and we let him learn a year then move Lepsis. Going by what I have read it seems that Myers should move into the starting line up next year. My guess is Cooper is the odd man out. What round do you think that Greg Eslinger will go in? I've heard he is a damn good player and I could be wrong but they use the same system we use.

Eslinger is projected as a first round pick and it seems well settled that he will be the first non OT offensive lineman off the board. If we want to get him its going to have to be at 1B or forget it. In fact, there is a decent chance he wont even be there at 1B, if that pick is going to be around the 28,29 area. I think he will prolly go in the early 20s somewhere. Regarding drafting a tackle, I think its an either-or proposition. If we resign Lepsis, its going to be a decent sized signing bonus. Athletic LTs, even 29/30 yr. old LTs are in demand. He has had a fine season and has come a very long way from the 2003 preseason where he was god awful at LT. We are going to take a hit, so you cant draft an OT in the first, let him learn for a year and then dump Lepsis. The bonus acceleration would kill us. Its one or the other.

[SoCalBronco]

Do you think we will have an easy time signing Warren SoCal?

I hope so, but I doubt it. After the year he has had, he will be in high demand. He is still like 26 or 27. He will probably have the market by its balls. Herc is a much better authority than I on this though. He knows what kind of dough we will have to work with.

[NFLBRONCO]

I hope so, but I doubt it. After the year he has had, he will be in high demand. He is still like 26 or 27. He will probably have the market by its balls. Herc is a much better authority than I on this though. He knows what kind of dough we will have to work with.


He will get big bucks from someone no doubt. I wonder if Denver will tag him?

[maven]

I have also been thinking Denver might select Lendale White with our 1b pick & select Kiwi/Mario with our 1a pick. The only problem I see is that each pick will probably require moving up a few spots. Will Denver have the ammo to make the move is key.

Moc was a young talent that went sour. I could definately see Denver selecting a RB high this draft. White could be the answer & a perfect complement to Tatum Bell.

[Bronco LB 59]

Eslinger is projected as a first round pick and it seems well settled that he will be the first non OT offensive lineman off the board.

When its all said and done, Georgia OG Max Jean-Gilles will probably be the first non OT offensive lineman off the board. He just has the measureables that will interest more teams. You're right, Eslinger will most likely get taken in the late 1st round, but I think he'll ultimately end up in a zone-blocking situation such as Houston, Atlanta, Baltimore, Denver. It wouldn't suprise me if Houston took him with their high 2nd round pick.

I like Eslinger as much as anybody in the draft, but I don't know if the Broncos would go with an undersized guy that high. They've enjoyed too much success drafting those guys in the later rounds while many other teams wrote them off.

Plus, the emergence of Chris Myers and Taylor Whitney this season might make interior line less of a priority.

[RocBronc]

Even with Myers and Whitney developing, remember that Nalen is about finished... We definately need to spend an early pick on an interior lineman.