Ratbirds @ Broncos

[No1BroncoFan]

Can we please cut through all the Chief chest thumping and get to the matter at hand? Haven't we got a game comming up against the Ratbirds?

Will the Broncos make a statement after gifting the Chiefs a win or will they come out flat?

What are the key matchups in the upcomming game?

C'mon guys, the Chiefs are history, let's look at the present.

Ben

[FantomForce]

I agree, my only question is why we always struggle against Baltimore? We need to step up and get the last of our season started in the right direction

[broncos love]

Can we please cut through all the Chief chest thumping and get to the matter at hand? Haven't we got a game comming up against the Ratbirds?

Will the Broncos make a statement after gifting the Chiefs a win or will they come out flat?

What are the key matchups in the upcomming game?

C'mon guys, the Chiefs are history, let's look at the present.

Ben
I agree. Since I will be coming up for the game im pretty pumped up for the game. Unless the broncos are drunk at the game this should be a laugher.

[Bronx33]

Cautious optimism of a pending beat down by the broncos..:militia:

[Jesterhole]

This Ravens team is nothing like the one we've stuggled against. It won't have Ray Lewis, and Jamal Lewis is not playing like his former self.

I think the Broncos come out angry, and ready to win.

Broncos 31
Ravens 6

[broncosteven]

I for one wish Shanny would get a consistent run game going. I love MA but he has not been very quick the hole. I know they talked him up about having the best ever training camp but that was months ago. TB needs more carries, I think Dayne has a better feel right now & may have more power. We need to establish the run & not try to get fancy in the passing game. Dont give up easy points on turnovers & control the clock.

I don't have any stats but seems to me like we have not been controling clock in last few games as well as we were before.

[Bronx33]

I for one wish Shanny would get a consistent run game going. I love MA but he has not been very quick the hole. I know they talked him up about having the best ever training camp but that was months ago. TB needs more carries, I think Dayne has a better feel right now & may have more power. We need to establish the run & not try to get fancy in the passing game. Dont give up easy points on turnovers & control the clock.

I don't have any stats but seems to me like we have not been controling clock in last few games as well as we were before.


I think the birds are in for a whole lotta tater on sunday..

[broncos love]

I for one wish Shanny would get a consistent run game going. I love MA but he has not been very quick the hole. I know they talked him up about having the best ever training camp but that was months ago. TB needs more carries, I think Dayne has a better feel right now & may have more power. We need to establish the run & not try to get fancy in the passing game. Dont give up easy points on turnovers & control the clock.

I don't have any stats but seems to me like we have not been controling clock in last few games as well as we were before.
Ma has been the only reliable back for the broncos this year. Tater had some good carries last week but you got to understand he is not as tough in the holes as Ma or Dayne for that matter. Tatum is perfect for our offense as a change of pace guy and thats all he will ever be unless he gets a little stronger in his lower body.

[Bronco LB 59]

Considering Denver's struggles in recent weeks against formidable tight ends, Todd Heap scares me. He's quietly having a Pro Bowl season. Heap should actually get the backup slot in the Pro Bowl over Tony Gonzalez.

He also kicked our butts on the 2002 MNF loss.

[Bronx33]

Considering Denver's struggles in recent weeks against formidable tight ends, Todd Heap scares me. He's quietly having a Pro Bowl season. Heap should actually get the backup slot in the Pro Bowl over Tony Gonzalez.

He also kicked our butts on the 2002 MNF loss.

Al love heap..

http://img491.imageshack.us/img491/3765/wilsonheap9nu.gif

[Bronco LB 59]

Al love heap..

http://img491.imageshack.us/img491/3765/wilsonheap9nu.gif

LOL Nice!

I loved when Brian Billick started complaining about the refs overturning the call in the postgame press conference. If you can't take a good lick, you don't deserve ****!

[Ratboy]

Even Sam Brandon felt that hit.

[No1BroncoFan]

Al love heap..

http://img491.imageshack.us/img491/3765/wilsonheap9nu.gif
Our defense needs to bring this early and often, but somewhere other than the endzone.

Ben

[SoCalBronco]

Considering Denver's struggles in recent weeks against formidable tight ends, Todd Heap scares me. He's quietly having a Pro Bowl season. Heap should actually get the backup slot in the Pro Bowl over Tony Gonzalez.

He also kicked our butts on the 2002 MNF loss.

Yep. He is Baltimore's only real threat. It wont take a whole lot of scheming to shut them down. As always, its how you distribute your 7 pass defenders against their 5 possible pass recievers. Since they do not have any favorable matchups in terms of WRs on CBs or Backs on LBs in terms of the passing game, we can afford to play man-to-man across the board with the 5 underneath defenders (LBs and CBs), with both corners up in a press position. That leaves us with 2 extra defenders. Since Heap is their only real threat, we can afford to use one safety (or nickel defender) in conjunction with a LB to always bracket him, with one defender aligned well to his inside to cut off inside routes and the other defender aligned to the outside to cutoff the outside routes. With the remaining extra defender, we can start out the game having that extra safety just play Free, dropping back in the deep middle third. If we arent getting pressure (that would be a surprise in this game), instead of playing that Man-Free with the other safety helping to bracket Heap, we'll blitz another LB and have the safety who otherwise would be playing in the deep third "Free" on the back that the LB would have had to cover. They can try and move Heap around to disrupt the Bracket and cause some confusion over which two defenders will bracket him, but in today's NFL, bracket systems are pretty easy so long as you can communicate. Football manual writer and coach John Rice has an example of his bracketing "numbers system" that is designed to always quickly locate and negate the opposition's best reciever. It involves numbers so that regardless of the formation, you can quickly spot the key guy and call out a number to quickly determine who will bracket the guy (See Below). I suspect we will use something very similar to negate Heap, since he is the sole guy we are worried about in the pass game.

http://members.aol.com/zacoach102/DimePackage/negating.gif

http://members.aol.com/zacoach102/DimePackage/negating.gif

[BigPlayShay]

I'm tired of all the analysis on who should or shouldn't, who is and isn't... I just want to see Denver kick some Ratbird ass. That includes the 12th man. Crowd needs to step it up for the stretch run. 2 more home games to make it the first undefeated home season since 98.

[broncos love]

I'm tired of all the analysis on who should or shouldn't, who is and isn't... I just want to see Denver kick some Ratbird ass. That includes the 12th man. Crowd needs to step it up for the stretch run. 2 more home games to make it the first undefeated home season since 98.
:thumbsup:

[Florida_Bronco]

For some reason there is a surprising number of Ratbird (bandwagon) fans down here that like to run their mouth about the previous wins over us....

Revenge will be sweet :militia:

[Dukes]

This is the game i've been looking forward the most to since I saw the schedule come out. I hate the Ratbirds more than the Raiders, thats really saying something

[maven]

30-0

Denver kicks this team in the nads.

10-3 will be our record come Sunday night.

[ludo21]

I love the quotes from the players im reading. They are pissed they let that game get away. They wont let that happen this week. IMO they will take care of business and just destroy the Ratbirds.

Only threat being Heap, we should be able to take this team to the woodshed.

[watermock]

it's tuesday...this is bitching day...

[watermock]

The players SHOULD be mad honestly...there were several fauxpau's and some very bad play calls...

I didn't think we would lay a turd, but it might be a blessing in the long term...

[Cleo McDowell]

Al love heap..

http://img491.imageshack.us/img491/3765/wilsonheap9nu.gif

personal foul, unnecessary roughness on number 56, blah blah blah... half the distance to the goal, first down.

serously i now hold my breath everytime we TOUCH a reciever. **** the refs and their pussball.

[fontaine]

I haven't been following jailbirds at all this year as they have been unusually clear of all criminal activities.

I just know that they are swamped with injuries across the board. Will Demps is injured and Ed Reed just returned from a bad ankle. They were forced to put Deoin at Safety! They lost they're nickel CB and a couple of starting DL.

Also their OL seems to be nicked up with Ogden nursing a bad hammy and he's questionable to play. Still this Denver team should win at home and win comfortabley but there's no point getting complacent even though the jailbirds have yet to win a single game on the road.

[OrangeShadow]

we better blow this team out. you are suppose to be able to blow out lowly teams(IE jets).

[Rock Chalk]

I just wish Ray Ray was playing so I could see his blank expression at getting hammered for 60 minutes.

[ROYC75]

I just wish Ray Ray was playing so I could see his blank expression at getting hammered for 60 minutes.

Nice, it was great when we played them he cried on national tv.

FYI : Better watch it, Ray Ray has friends ........... ( know what I mean ):twitch:

[Rock Chalk]

Nice, it was great when we played them he cried on national tv.

FYI : Better watch it, Ray Ray has friends ........... ( know what I mean ):twitch:
"Its IMPOSSIBLE!" Ha! Classic, even if it was against the CHefs.

[Sean]

Only threat being Heap, we should be able to take this team to the woodshed.

I hope the Broncos don't make this mistake. Every NFL squad has massive talent, an injury to one guy is an opportunity for another to make a name for himself.

We take these guys lightly and we'll be embarrassed.

Play the game ****in hard. We need this.

[Mile High Shack]

I doubt our boys will take this game lightly

all Shanny has to do is remind them we haven't beaten them since 1996?

I think......

[ROYC75]

Playing at home, esp. after a loss to KC, this game has BLOW OUT written all over it.


But just for fun, Go RAVENS !

[defenseman]

This is a bronco win. Score: Ratbirds 3 Broncos 31. Don't think for a second these players aren't out to make up for the close loss to KC last week. It'll be fresh and they will out to reset the PMA......dman

*Shanahan will be focused on getting Plummer back "in-line" with quality decisions, in other words, He'll be put on a very short leash.

[Rulon Velvet Jones]

Anyone in on taking Denver -14? Same as the Jets game and we all know how that turned out...

[Arkie]

I think they will do about as well as the Jets did against the defense.

Broncos - 20
Ravens - 0

[sirhcyennek81]

Broncos remain patient on offense, hammer the ravens with the three headed running back monster, and have our defense continue to make j. lewis look like an assclown that he has been this season, denver will get #10. Would also be amusing to watch SD and KC lose, giving us back the oh so sweet 2 game lead.

[Mile High Shack]

I think they will do about as well as the Jets did against the defense.

Broncos - 20
Ravens - 0

we are losing...but that is what I do, that's my thing

I can't predict a win out loud

[sirhcyennek81]

Ravens fans must think its the year 2000 and we have Griese at QB...

[Florida_Bronco]

Ravens fans must think its the year 2000 and we have Griese at QB...

Are they running their mouths already?

[broncofan2438]

Are there no Ratbird fans in here?

[Dukes]

Would also be amusing to watch SD and KC lose, giving us back the oh so sweet 2 game lead.

Unless something catastrophic happens to SD before sunday, no way they lose to Miami at home

[Mile High Shack]

Unless something catastrophic happens to SD before sunday, no way they lose to Miami at home

our hope is

we win

KC loses

Indy loses to Jax (could happen)

then they have to play for something when they play San Diego the week after

[broncofan2438]

Again, lets just worry about ourselves and win the four remaining games that we have, and yes that means the SD game

[No1BroncoFan]

Ratbirds are gonna be roadkill after the Broncos are done with 'em.

Broncos-42 - Ratbirds-2 (Safety when their only good play of the day pins us at the one and Sourbread steps out the back of the endzone)

Ben

[Traveler]

Trap game! But I sincerely hope I'm wrong.

[Bronx33]

Trap game! But I sincerely hope I'm wrong.


Dallas was the trap game so fear not.....

[ludo21]

I hope the Broncos don't make this mistake. Every NFL squad has massive talent, an injury to one guy is an opportunity for another to make a name for himself.

We take these guys lightly and we'll be embarrassed.

Play the game ****in hard. We need this.


o no doubt, i know they have more than just heap, but he is their main guy.

The game needs to be played hard all 60 min for sure!

[No1BroncoFan]

Trap game! But I sincerely hope I'm wrong.
If we were just coming off a big emotional win against the Chiefs, I might agree. We've got several seasons of revenge and last weeks loss to carry us through this ass whoopin'.

Broncos 42-2

Ben

[broncosteven]

Yep. He is Baltimore's only real threat. It wont take a whole lot of scheming to shut them down. As always, its how you distribute your 7 pass defenders against their 5 possible pass recievers. Since they do not have any favorable matchups in terms of WRs on CBs or Backs on LBs in terms of the passing game, we can afford to play man-to-man across the board with the 5 underneath defenders (LBs and CBs), with both corners up in a press position. That leaves us with 2 extra defenders. Since Heap is their only real threat, we can afford to use one safety (or nickel defender) in conjunction with a LB to always bracket him, with one defender aligned well to his inside to cut off inside routes and the other defender aligned to the outside to cutoff the outside routes. With the remaining extra defender, we can start out the game having that extra safety just play Free, dropping back in the deep middle third. If we arent getting pressure (that would be a surprise in this game), instead of playing that Man-Free with the other safety helping to bracket Heap, we'll blitz another LB and have the safety who otherwise would be playing in the deep third "Free" on the back that the LB would have had to cover. They can try and move Heap around to disrupt the Bracket and cause some confusion over which two defenders will bracket him, but in today's NFL, bracket systems are pretty easy so long as you can communicate. Football manual writer and coach John Rice has an example of his bracketing "numbers system" that is designed to always quickly locate and negate the opposition's best reciever. It involves numbers so that regardless of the formation, you can quickly spot the key guy and call out a number to quickly determine who will bracket the guy (See Below). I suspect we will use something very similar to negate Heap, since he is the sole guy we are worried about in the pass game.

http://members.aol.com/zacoach102/DimePackage/negating.gif

http://members.aol.com/zacoach102/DimePackage/negating.gif

<edit> t its! <edit> THis is why I signed up as a member here! I was never really big on internet boards until shef left the post! Thanks for the knowledge SoCal.

[maven]

Trap game! But I sincerely hope I'm wrong.

I heard this many times for the Jets game. What happened? Denver pummeled them.

I'll say it again. Denver 30 Ravens 0

:Broncos:

[broncosteven]

Heap will get his catches i see it Ravens 16 Denver 30

[Meck77]

fyi.........1/2 price tix are available at http://www.ticketmaster.com

[Natedogg]

just got some. thanks for the heads up. Yeeeessssssssss!::woowoo: :woowoo:

[Mile High Shack]

Trap game! But I sincerely hope I'm wrong.

not that again

wasn't that the Jets game?

how many trap games we have here?

[Traveler]

not that again

wasn't that the Jets game?

how many trap games we have here?


If/When they put them down with some consistency, then I'l lhave the confidence you guys have. But for some reason, the Broncos always bitchup against the Ravens. Even with Lewis out, I'm still the pessimist.

I've said in many different threads that this game was a trap game. I'll stand by that until they prove me wrong.

[Mile High Shack]

If/When they put them down with some consistency, then I'l lhave the confidence you guys have. But for some reason, the Broncos always b****up against the Ravens. Even with Lewis out, I'm still the pessimist.

I've said in many different threads that this game was a trap game. I'll stand by that until they prove me wrong.

I have yet to pick the Broncos to win

but my point is, a trap game is a game right before a big game usually by defintion against a bad team

well our next game is against a bad team too (Bills) and we are coming off a tough loss

so the only thing going against us is we are 0-4 against Billdick

[elsid13]

I see the raven most weeks and they are a really bad offense team. Boller is regression as QB. If the really defense shows up this shouldn't be close.

[Mile High Shack]

I see the raven most weeks and they are a really bad offense team. Boller is regression as QB. If the really defense shows up this shouldn't be close.

that's the thing

in Denver, our defense should play much better and hold their offense to almost zero points

[Meck77]

Alright!!!!!!! We got the bus started! It wasn't turning over for days because of the cold I guess. We bought a big ass charger and charged the batteries for several hours. We tried a few times today and it seemed hopeless then all of a sudden we tried it and she let out the biggest cloud of smoke I'd ever come out of OF1's ass..........POOF!!!!!! Chugg...chuggg POOF!!! then wammo!!!!!! ROAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ravens tailgate is in full effect!!!!!!!!!

[elsid13]

Alright!!!!!!! We got the bus started! It wasn't turning over for days because of the cold I guess. We bought a big ass charger and charged the batteries for several hours. We tried a few times today and it seemed hopeless then all of a sudden we tried it and she let out the biggest cloud of smoke I'd ever come out of OF1's ass..........POOF!!!!!! Chugg...chuggg POOF!!! then wammo!!!!!! ROAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ravens tailgate is in full effect!!!!!!!!!


Hope this is a methaphor for the Bronco as well. Cold and dead now ready to roll.

[ludo21]

Hope this is a methaphor for the Bronco as well. Cold and dead now ready to roll.


:Broncos: WOOOOO!!! Time to stomp some RAVENS!!!

[orange 4 life]

not that again

wasn't that the Jets game?

how many trap games we have here?

this MAY have been one had we BEAT the chiefs.
considering the fact that we lost to kc, this game should be a slam dunk (knock on wood anyway though)

the crap about "we always lose to baltimore" or "they have our number" is just ludicrous.
remind me when we played them last?

oh yeah, it was two YEARS ago and plummer was out.

how about other times we played them?

a loss against the superbowl champs again with a backup qb.

gimme a break.
they have nothing on us. these are completely different teams, and we should be able to have our way with them.

the raiders on christmas eve is the trap game.
we should win this week easily, and then we go to buffalo to face an offense that plays right into our hands. should be another easy win.

after that, we come home for what SHOULD be an easy win at home.
problem is, that game is the raiders superbowl, and they do have speed on the outside which can give us fits.
if weather is an issue, that game could fall into the "trap" category, but this one?

no way.

jake

[ludo21]

fyi.........1/2 price tix are available at http://www.ticketmaster.com

times like this i really wish i still lived in CO.hmmm...

[sirhcyennek81]

Broncos will rely on their run game to get this win, it wont be pretty, but baltimore does not have the ability to sustain offense for 60 minutes. Also a game for the denver defense to reassert themselves. They played bad football in KC, our secondary is lightyears better then the show they put on last sunday. Playoff run, this is where we have to start the run to the 2nd seed. If they are the team we think they are, Baltimore will get blown out.

[Archie]

Can we please cut through all the Chief chest thumping and get to the matter at hand? Haven't we got a game comming up against the Ratbirds?

Will the Broncos make a statement after gifting the Chiefs a win or will they come out flat?

What are the key matchups in the upcomming game?

C'mon guys, the Chiefs are history, let's look at the present.

Ben

Broncos win big... cover easy

[Bronco Vixen]

Hope this is a methaphor for the Bronco as well. Cold and dead now ready to roll.
:giggle:

[Malcontent]

Yep. He is Baltimore's only real threat. It wont take a whole lot of scheming to shut them down. As always, its how you distribute your 7 pass defenders against their 5 possible pass recievers. Since they do not have any favorable matchups in terms of WRs on CBs or Backs on LBs in terms of the passing game, we can afford to play man-to-man across the board with the 5 underneath defenders (LBs and CBs), with both corners up in a press position. That leaves us with 2 extra defenders. Since Heap is their only real threat, we can afford to use one safety (or nickel defender) in conjunction with a LB to always bracket him, with one defender aligned well to his inside to cut off inside routes and the other defender aligned to the outside to cutoff the outside routes. With the remaining extra defender, we can start out the game having that extra safety just play Free, dropping back in the deep middle third. If we arent getting pressure (that would be a surprise in this game), instead of playing that Man-Free with the other safety helping to bracket Heap, we'll blitz another LB and have the safety who otherwise would be playing in the deep third "Free" on the back that the LB would have had to cover. They can try and move Heap around to disrupt the Bracket and cause some confusion over which two defenders will bracket him, but in today's NFL, bracket systems are pretty easy so long as you can communicate. Football manual writer and coach John Rice has an example of his bracketing "numbers system" that is designed to always quickly locate and negate the opposition's best reciever. It involves numbers so that regardless of the formation, you can quickly spot the key guy and call out a number to quickly determine who will bracket the guy (See Below). I suspect we will use something very similar to negate Heap, since he is the sole guy we are worried about in the pass game.

http://members.aol.com/zacoach102/DimePackage/negating.gif

http://members.aol.com/zacoach102/DimePackage/negating.gif


So according to this, Lynchy will blast Heap in the greeeolll and incur a penalty. Go Gettem Johnny boy.

[ClevelandBronco2]

Yep. He is Baltimore's only real threat. It wont take a whole lot of scheming to shut them down. As always, its how you distribute your 7 pass defenders against their 5 possible pass recievers. Since they do not have any favorable matchups in terms of WRs on CBs or Backs on LBs in terms of the passing game, we can afford to play man-to-man across the board with the 5 underneath defenders (LBs and CBs), with both corners up in a press position. That leaves us with 2 extra defenders. Since Heap is their only real threat, we can afford to use one safety (or nickel defender) in conjunction with a LB to always bracket him, with one defender aligned well to his inside to cut off inside routes and the other defender aligned to the outside to cutoff the outside routes. With the remaining extra defender, we can start out the game having that extra safety just play Free, dropping back in the deep middle third. If we arent getting pressure (that would be a surprise in this game), instead of playing that Man-Free with the other safety helping to bracket Heap, we'll blitz another LB and have the safety who otherwise would be playing in the deep third "Free" on the back that the LB would have had to cover. They can try and move Heap around to disrupt the Bracket and cause some confusion over which two defenders will bracket him, but in today's NFL, bracket systems are pretty easy so long as you can communicate. Football manual writer and coach John Rice has an example of his bracketing "numbers system" that is designed to always quickly locate and negate the opposition's best reciever. It involves numbers so that regardless of the formation, you can quickly spot the key guy and call out a number to quickly determine who will bracket the guy (See Below). I suspect we will use something very similar to negate Heap, since he is the sole guy we are worried about in the pass game.

http://members.aol.com/zacoach102/DimePackage/negating.gif

http://members.aol.com/zacoach102/DimePackage/negating.gif

Best communicator and best football mind on this board: SoCalBronco, hands down.

[Billy Clyde Puckett]

Best communicator and best football mind on this board: SoCalBronco, hands down.

You can't out research the guy. Thats for sure!

[OrangeCrush77]

I love half price tickets!!!

[waz06]

This game will be closer than many people think.

Broncos 27 Ravens 6 !Booya!

Van Pelt rushes for another TD in mop up duty.

[wabbit]

The impression I get from listening to Shanahan & his crew is that there really is some serious bad blood between the Bronco & Raisins coaching staffs, if only implied.

It's the subject of rumors what, exactly, might've transpired between the two staffs, but something did, & more than a single incident...in addition to the fact that Billick owns a 4 & 0 record against Mike.

This game seems to deliver a 'payback' opportunity on a silver platter.

Here's hoping the Broncos do exactly that.

[ludo21]

The impression I get from listening to Shanahan & his crew is that there really is some serious bad blood between the Bronco & Raisins coaching staffs, if only implied.

It's the subject of rumors what, exactly, might've transpired between the two staffs, but something did, & more than a single incident...in addition to the fact that Billick owns a 4 & 0 record against Mike.

This game seems to deliver a 'payback' opportunity on a silver platter.

Here's hoping the Broncos do exactly that.


I wonder what it is that is between them???

This is our best chance to literally destroy the Ravens, and it wil be playback long overdue. :thumbs:

Time to cook some birds tommorow, i know im ready for a victory!:devil:

[SoCalBronco]

The impression I get from listening to Shanahan & his crew is that there really is some serious bad blood between the Bronco & Raisins coaching staffs, if only implied.

It's the subject of rumors what, exactly, might've transpired between the two staffs, but something did, & more than a single incident...in addition to the fact that Billick owns a 4 & 0 record against Mike.

This game seems to deliver a 'payback' opportunity on a silver platter.

Here's hoping the Broncos do exactly that.

Perhaps we are still angry about them getting cold feet at the last second in the 2003 draft. We came quite close to getting a very nice bundle of picks for our first before they backed off and left us in a bit of a jam. Still turned out pretty good for us with Foster, but we almost had them raped, Redskins style.

[Pendejo]

The impression I get from listening to Shanahan & his crew is that there really is some serious bad blood between the Bronco & Raisins coaching staffs, if only implied.

It's the subject of rumors what, exactly, might've transpired between the two staffs, but something did, & more than a single incident...in addition to the fact that Billick owns a 4 & 0 record against Mike.

This game seems to deliver a 'payback' opportunity on a silver platter.

Here's hoping the Broncos do exactly that.

It probably has to do with the fact that Billick owns Shanahan, and perhaps there's some resentment left over after the Ratbirds backed out of a deal with the Donks on draft day a few years back.