NEW MOCK Consensus Draft 2006

[ICON]

http://condraft.com/mock.php?r=1

[ICON]

WHO WOOD YOU DRAFT?
Michael Huff,LaRon Landry,Darnell Bing :juggle:

[Elway 4 Life]

WHO WOOD YOU DRAFT?
Michael Huff,LaRon Landry,Darnell Bing :juggle:

Huff! No doubt without question. Landry would be my next choice. Not to high on Bing.

[Billy Clyde Puckett]

Well it is a long time till april and I am sure we will learn more about the players and who will leave school early but this is what I would have in mind for the Broncs.

Assuming Mario Williams and Ngata come out, one of them or Kiwi, ro Rod Wright should be available for pick 1A.

With 1B I would target Hagan (I really don't have much of an opinion on him, but he has the measurables) or an underclassman Wr if there were any worth the pick If not I would go OG with Jean Giles, Joseph or Elsinger as the targets.

If 1B was not an OG there are a few to target in round 2 Raiola, Scott and Degory come to mind or perhaps one of those I emntioned at 1B will fall

As I have said before, Safety can be easily addressed in FA.

[ICON]

Huff! No doubt without question. Landry would be my next choice. Not to high on Bing.http://media.scout.com/Media/College_Football/14388_huff_8661.JPG

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[Broncoman13]

Well it is a long time till april and I am sure we will learn more about the players and who will leave school early but this is what I would have in mind for the Broncs.

Assuming Mario Williams and Ngata come out, one of them or Kiwi, ro Rod Wright should be available for pick 1A.

With 1B I would target Hagan (I really don't have much of an opinion on him, but he has the measurables) or an underclassman Wr if there were any worth the pick If not I would go OG with Jean Giles, Joseph or Elsinger as the targets.

If 1B was not an OG there are a few to target in round 2 Raiola, Scott and Degory come to mind or perhaps one of those I emntioned at 1B will fall

As I have said before, Safety can be easily addressed in FA.


A lot of people on the Mane aren't to impressed with Hagan. NOt sure why? Everytime I've seen the kid play he's been impressive. Good body control, good hands, and productive. We need a possession WR...sounds like he'd be a good fit!

[Elway 4 Life]

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[Elway 4 Life]

A lot of people on the Mane aren't to impressed with Hagan. NOt sure why? Everytime I've seen the kid play he's been impressive. Good body control, good hands, and productive. We need a possession WR...sounds like he'd be a good fit!

He's a hard worker that has only upside. He doesnt have blazin speed but he can scoot.

[Perry1977]

With 1B I would target Hagan (I really don't have much of an opinion on him, but he has the measurables) or an underclassman Wr if there were any worth the pick If not I would go OG with Jean Giles, Joseph or Elsinger as the targets.

If 1B was not an OG there are a few to target in round 2 Raiola, Scott and Degory come to mind or perhaps one of those I emntioned at 1B will fall




Why do you want a Guard? There's only been 3 guards drafted in the first round in the past 5 years....and two of them were the 30th and 32nd picks. Spending a 1st rounder on a guard would be a mistake, unless it was a huge need for the team. I thought it was going to be, but Carlisle is kicking ass.

And what makes you think Denver would pick Jean Giles? He's 340 pounds...that boy is going to end up at Buffalo or Dallas where they like them big and fat. We already have our heavy mover on the O-Line in George Foster, but he's a tackle and a freak in that hes agile as well.. No way we bring in a guard that big and expect him to pull like we do so many times. Unless Denver changes their running scheme, this guy is going somewhere else.

Besides, we already have Myers on the roster, who was a steal, and unless he's already a total bust be will be filling in for Hamilton when/if Nalen retires.

Lepsis is a FA next year, and we are already light at OT with Carswell's career possibly over. We need Tackles way more than Guards, especially in the first round, when nearly every year tackles go in the 1st and guards don't start to go until the second.

[Billy Clyde Puckett]

Why do you want a Guard? There's only been 3 guards drafted in the first round in the past 5 years....and two of them were the 30th and 32nd picks. Spending a 1st rounder on a guard would be a mistake, unless it was a huge need for the team. I thought it was going to be, but Carlisle is kicking ass.

And what makes you think Denver would pick Jean Giles? He's 340 pounds...that boy is going to end up at Buffalo or Dallas where they like them big and fat. We already have our heavy mover on the O-Line in George Foster, but he's a tackle and a freak in that hes agile as well.. No way we bring in a guard that big and expect him to pull like we do so many times. Unless Denver changes their running scheme, this guy is going somewhere else.

Besides, we already have Myers on the roster, who was a steal, and unless he's already a total bust be will be filling in for Hamilton when/if Nalen retires.

Lepsis is a FA next year, and we are already light at OT with Carswell's career possibly over. We need Tackles way more than Guards, especially in the first round, when nearly every year tackles go in the 1st and guards don't start to go until the second.

As for Hagan, I have only seen him 3-4 times, He has the measurables to fit the possession type, but he is not the guy to be the flashy hot speed receiver. He is a possession receiver that might be the perfect replacement for Rod.

I don't how you think Carlisle has been kicking ass. The broncs have run left, away from his side, almost twice as much as in the past. The constantly hide Carisle in the running game. The only times they have made yards to the right is when they have Hmailton pull and help out. Go back and check All of the long runs have been to the left. As for Lepsis, he is here as long as he wants to be, which is to the end of his career. He is playing at a pro bowl level and will get a nice bump, but not enough to take him someplace else. He fits our system well, but few others. For Jean Giles, he is bigger than normal, but he may be the quickest off the line and in limited space of all guards in the draft. Wait till you see his 10 yard and shuttle numbers from the combine. He may be more agile than Foster. Imagine the running game with a true right guard who could move and use his strength to clear the road. Plus the guy is also a schooled pass protector.

My opinion remains the same. The Broncs needs in order are: 1. OG, 2. Pass Receiver (WR or Sharpe type Te), 3. Depth on DL.

[Perry1977]

Interesting. I have seen Carlisle lay down some great blocks, especially pulling to the right. I must say I thought we were screwed after getting rid of Neil...and I was initially down on Coop but he has changed my mind. I have all our long runs on film and I will take a look at them after posting this, specifically watching for #65.

As far as the big guys go...agility is just one part of it, as it also has to do with them being able to play through the 4th quarter. As Shanahan said "We like 'em lean," and he means it. He will be lugging around 50 more pounds than the other guys on the line, and agile or not, that will catch up with him. Some reports have him as up to as much as 365 this offseason. There's just no way I see us drafting a guy that big.

Myers should be competing for a starting job next year too...and I think he'll be great, maybe beating out Coop. What do you think of Myers?

[SoCalBronco]

Interesting. I have seen Carlisle lay down some great blocks, especially pulling to the right. I must say I thought we were screwed after getting rid of Neil...and I was initially down on Coop but he has changed my mind. I have all our long runs on film and I will take a look at them after posting this, specifically watching for #65.

As far as the big guys go...agility is just one part of it, as it also has to do with them being able to play through the 4th quarter. As Shanahan said "We like 'em lean," and he means it. He will be lugging around 50 more pounds than the other guys on the line, and agile or not, that will catch up with him. Some reports have him as up to as much as 365 this offseason. There's just no way I see us drafting a guy that big.

Myers should be competing for a starting job next year too...and I think he'll be great, maybe beating out Coop. What do you think of Myers?

Shanny said some good things about him a few weeks ago when he was asked a question about injury issues on the OL and who would step in. In addition, in the most recent Pro Football Weekly edition of Whispers on the Broncos, it said the staff is very high on him.

EDIT: Here is the snipped from PFW on him:
Sixth-round pick Chris Myers could have a bright future at guard in Denver. Coaches believe they would be able to rely on him this season if injuries beset the interior of a very thin offensive line, and that he has all the qualities they look for in a blocker.

[Broncoman13]

As for Hagan, I have only seen him 3-4 times, He has the measurables to fit the possession type, but he is not the guy to be the flashy hot speed receiver. He is a possession receiver that might be the perfect replacement for Rod.

I don't how you think Carlisle has been kicking ass. The broncs have run left, away from his side, almost twice as much as in the past. The constantly hide Carisle in the running game. The only times they have made yards to the right is when they have Hmailton pull and help out. Go back and check All of the long runs have been to the left. As for Lepsis, he is here as long as he wants to be, which is to the end of his career. He is playing at a pro bowl level and will get a nice bump, but not enough to take him someplace else. He fits our system well, but few others. For Jean Giles, he is bigger than normal, but he may be the quickest off the line and in limited space of all guards in the draft. Wait till you see his 10 yard and shuttle numbers from the combine. He may be more agile than Foster. Imagine the running game with a true right guard who could move and use his strength to clear the road. Plus the guy is also a schooled pass protector.

My opinion remains the same. The Broncs needs in order are: 1. OG, 2. Pass Receiver (WR or Sharpe type Te), 3. Depth on DL.


I see your argument and agree that it would be nice to have a big pile moving OG in the line up to go along side Foster.

As for your comments about all the long runs... I seem to remember a couple of long runs (1 from MA vs the Chefs in the opener, 1 from Tatum vs the Skins..2nd TD I believe, and 1 from Tatum vs the Eagles I believe was to the right side)

[Billy Clyde Puckett]

I see your argument and agree that it would be nice to have a big pile moving OG in the line up to go along side Foster.

As for your comments about all the long runs... I seem to remember a couple of long runs (1 from MA vs the Chefs in the opener, 1 from Tatum vs the Skins..2nd TD I believe, and 1 from Tatum vs the Eagles I believe was to the right side)

Sure there have been some runs to the right, but if you look you will see on virtually every positive run to the right this year, either Hamilton or Nalen has pulled out to help on that side. take a look at what happens when Caelisle gets no help, the Anderson 4th down run against the Squaws. the play is designed to go right over Carlisle and he doesn't get the job done. Johnson seals off the outside pressure, but he gets nothing in the lane.

I seriously believe Meyers will be a very good player for the Broncs, but at Center not guard.

[Billy Clyde Puckett]

Interesting. I have seen Carlisle lay down some great blocks, especially pulling to the right. I must say I thought we were screwed after getting rid of Neil...and I was initially down on Coop but he has changed my mind. I have all our long runs on film and I will take a look at them after posting this, specifically watching for #65.

As far as the big guys go...agility is just one part of it, as it also has to do with them being able to play through the 4th quarter. As Shanahan said "We like 'em lean," and he means it. He will be lugging around 50 more pounds than the other guys on the line, and agile or not, that will catch up with him. Some reports have him as up to as much as 365 this offseason. There's just no way I see us drafting a guy that big.

Myers should be competing for a starting job next year too...and I think he'll be great, maybe beating out Coop. What do you think of Myers?

check out Jean Giles Body fat content - He is not a fat slob. It is much lower than most OL

[Perry1977]

I just went through all of our big runs this year, and I think you're way too down on Cooper.

On Daynes game sealing run, he cut #95 DT of the Cowboys on the backside, who most certainly would have tackled Dayne. Just because it was too the left doesn't mean much.

Also, in that game, Daynes first untouched TD run was right off Coopers shoulder.

Agaisnt the Jags almost all of our big runs came off that right side, and those are the best DTs in the business he was working against there.

Dolpins game he cleared a 30-yard run for Bell.


Eagles cleared way for MA short TD run and Bell's short TD run

MA's short run against jets TD

Patriots - Sealed block for TB short TD run

TB run for 45 yards was off a Cooper block, Cooper blew somebody up badly on a screen to Bell

Lead blocker for MA 2 yard TD run

Skins helped seal of TB's first long TD run from backside, TB's run off the right side TD, out ahead knocked down the LB/S to spring him.

KC- Sealed the BVP run

Those are just some quick notes from looking at every game this year. You are being way too hard on him based on one play that cost us the KC game.

This is Denver. We do not road-grade people, we use their momentum against them and let our backs pick the holes. I just dont see how we would even think about drafting Gilles. In fact, if we do, I will buy you a dinner at anyplace you want to go. And I am broke, so that's saying a lot. :) Gilles is simply too big. He does not fit the Denver mold, period.

I am not saying Cooper is all that as far as guards go, I am just saying he's not playing that badly. If anything, his Pass protection needs a lot more help than his run blocking.

[DBroncos4life]

I just went through all of our big runs this year, and I think you're way too down on Cooper.

On Daynes game sealing run, he cut #95 DT of the Cowboys on the backside, who most certainly would have tackled Dayne. Just because it was too the left doesn't mean much.

Also, in that game, Daynes first untouched TD run was right off Coopers shoulder.

Agaisnt the Jags almost all of our big runs came off that right side, and those are the best DTs in the business he was working against there.

Dolpins game he cleared a 30-yard run for Bell.


Eagles cleared way for MA short TD run and Bell's short TD run

MA's short run against jets TD

Patriots - Sealed block for TB short TD run

TB run for 45 yards was off a Cooper block, Cooper blew somebody up badly on a screen to Bell

Lead blocker for MA 2 yard TD run

Skins helped seal of TB's first long TD run from backside, TB's run off the right side TD, out ahead knocked down the LB/S to spring him.

KC- Sealed the BVP run

Those are just some quick notes from looking at every game this year. You are being way too hard on him based on one play that cost us the KC game.

This is Denver. We do not road-grade people, we use their momentum against them and let our backs pick the holes. I just dont see how we would even think about drafting Gilles. In fact, if we do, I will buy you a dinner at anyplace you want to go. And I am broke, so that's saying a lot. :) Gilles is simply too big. He does not fit the Denver mold, period.

I am not saying Cooper is all that as far as guards go, I am just saying he's not playing that badly. If anything, his Pass protection needs a lot more help than his run blocking.


We may have had a few runs of note over then right side, even the chart during the game showed that we were running to the left most of the time and thats where the yards came from. Drafting a guard in the first might be a stretch but its not out of the question, the problem is finding the right guy. My thoughts on the draft would have to be we go with the best player on the board (like everyone else) that said we could use some speed on the edge. Mario Williams and Mathias Kiwanuka would be my first two choices at the end followed by the shorter and undersized Elvis Dumervil. I only really want one DT and thats Haloti Ngata.

I really like like Hagan. While he doesn't have all-world he still would be great in our system. I think he is just like Boldin but thats just me. As for the Saftey position I think Browner will help us alot in the long run but I wouldn't be upset if we did draft Bullocks in the second round :).

[RocBronc]

Don't think there's a guard worth drafting in Rd 1 but I think Eslinger would be worth drafting at the end of the 1st round...

[Elway 4 Life]

Our needs IMO in no particular order.

S, WR, DE/DT, G.

I would not waste and I mean waste a 1st on an OL unless by some miracle Ferguson is still available. I think we need a cover safety (huff is perfect) and a WR or DE/DT for our early picks.

[Rohirrim]

I've only seen three Texas games this year (including the pasting of the Buffs). What I noticed about Huff is how many times he was in on the tackle or close by. The guy was always in the picture. Also noticed that he hits big, as in B-I-G. Plus, he gets downfield fast and gets great coverage. I also wouldn't be surprised to see the Broncos take Lendale White. He's the kind of one-cut and gone RB Bobby Turner loves. I can't imagine the Broncos won't stick to their pattern of drafting OL late. Their system requires lots of coaching. They've got to get a WR to take the pressure off of Smith. Preferably somebody who knows something about YAC, which neither Lelie, Adams or Devoe seem to know anything about.

[maven]

I also wouldn't be surprised to see the Broncos take Lendale White. He's the kind of one-cut and gone RB Bobby Turner loves. I can't imagine the Broncos won't stick to their pattern of drafting OL late. Their system requires lots of coaching. They've got to get a WR to take the pressure off of Smith. Preferably somebody who knows something about YAC, which neither Lelie, Adams or Devoe seem to know anything about.

I think the only question with Lendale White is does he come out? Bush will, but White could have the entire backfield to himself. Does he take a chance & come back to SC?

[Hercules Rockefeller]

I think the only question with Lendale White is does he come out? Bush will, but White could have the entire backfield to himself. Does he take a chance & come back to SC?

http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=7953

11-29, if that's true Lendale has really shot up people's draft boards.

[Mr. Trout]

I think the only question with Lendale White is does he come out? Bush will, but White could have the entire backfield to himself. Does he take a chance & come back to SC?

Interesting point. USC will probably have some other speed guy to share carries with him. I think he will declare because of reports that he does not do good academically. As with other media reports i can't say for fact that is true.

[maven]

I do think Lendale will come out because the green is too good to pass up. The only problem, regarding Denver, is he'll be gone by the time we pick. It wouldn't shock me to see something similar to Caddy & Ronnie Brown. Bush goes #1 or #2 and Lendale goes top 10.

Having the unfortunate priviledge of watching Dolphins games, Ronnie just beats down defenders. When he puts it all together, Brown is going to be a damn good pro.

I so would love Denver to have a young RB who punishes the opposing D. Bring Tater for his 10-15 carries a game and Denver will have a sick running game.

[Rohirrim]

Re: Smardija (however the hell you spell it - the Notre Dame WR) I was playing golf with a guy from Notre Dame (alum) a couple of weeks ago and he told me that the word around there is that Smardija goes back to school and when he does come out, it will be to pitch in the bigs.