Howard Dean

[watermock]

"We are losing the war in Iraq"...Howard Dean...listen you traitor, your not being a patriot, your trying to create dissent in our country...I went ballistic...EVEN WHEN CHRUCHILL'S LONDON WAS BURNING DOWN HE DIDN'T CONCEDE DEFEAT...

This can be moved, but that isn't helpfull...I'm incredibly pissed at those two morons Kerry and Dean...they don't care about winning the war on terror, they just want to critique...

This is right after we killed the #3 Al Queda man and the Sunnis are coming to the table before elections...

You don't think that Al Jezerra posts these comments? It's like the dems WANT us to lose the war...in WW2 everyone got together and got the job done...if they want to critique US policy you do it in session, not on the media...I'm incredibly pissed...you don't validate political assasination on the media and give it to the enemy...God I'm mad at those mrons...they are going to cost lives...

The comments of Kerry are equally offensive to our armed forces...Howie Dean needs to be strung up for treason...i never said mistakes have not been made, but that stuff is done behind doors...

[Play2win]

Not as offensive as a Commander-In-Chief that has never served Military service...

Let alone combat...

[RunByDesign]

Is the war and politics forum gone, or something?

[Kaylore]

Is the war and politics forum gone, or something?
Thank You. Moderators: Do your job.

[watermock]

STFU...the bullcrap about Bush going AWOL was proven to be more hogwash...you don't want to see the truth...and want to know why it's posted here? Because LABF took over the war room...thats why...noone goes there...If noone is outraged when Howard Dean says we are losing the war in Iraq whatever...I just know noone goes to the war room...

The liberal indignation is also amusing...how dare me post the rediculous behaviour of supposed leaders

[watermock]

All the libs come out now...you can't handle the truth? I don't notice anything confronting what his comments are or how it was treasonous, just bitching like a ****...

[watermock]

Is the war and politics forum gone, or something?

That was destroyed a year ago with spam...if you went there you would see...

Ever heard of BartCop and LABF?

[watermock]

So it's fine to move it, the point is that Howard Dean is a coward...not many would of read this in the war room, it would of been immediately covered by LABF...now STFU.

The guy will make 20 posts to cover you up...

[RunByDesign]

The guy will make 20 posts to cover you up...

Kind of like what you just did?

[watermock]

No I didn't you prick...it''s all on one thread you dumbass STFU. One thread covers a room you dimwit?

LABF would make 20 threads a night...this is one thread you dumbass...

How many threads you see dimwit?

[watermock]

Oh, and a nice rebuke on my comment...you were speechless...just insulted....STFU

[COBronco 69]

Not as offensive as a Commander-In-Chief that has never served Military service...

Let alone combat...
Not picking sides in this, but at least get the facts right ok? Lots of presidents havent served.

Jefferson, Hoover, FDR, John Adams, John Quincy Adams, Coolidge, Harding, Wilson, Taft, and Bill Clinton.

So, you have guys like Jefferson and Adams, part of the list of founding fathers, who didnt serve. Guys like Hoover and FDR who were involved in a very touchy time in US and world history.

Im not taking sides one way or the other, but maybe you should at least do a little fact checking.

[Rigs11]

Oh great... mock is up to his drunken retardness again. Hey muck you should go work for the bush admin, they're running out of dumbasses there, you'd fit in just fine.

[RunByDesign]

Oh, and a nice rebuke on my comment...you were speechless...just insulted....STFU

You're a drunken clown.

How is that Bush-led CAFTA agreement treatin' ya, waterdrunk?

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Oh great... mock is up to his drunken retardness again. Hey muck you should go work for the bush admin, they're running out of dumbasses there, you'd fit in just fine.

:laugh: :thumbsup:

Yep - just think of what it would do for his self-esteem:

The court-appointed pinhead would tell him "you're doin' a heckuva job, watercrock" on a daily basis.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Not picking sides in this, but at least get the facts right ok? Lots of presidents havent served.

Jefferson, Hoover, FDR, John Adams, John Quincy Adams, Coolidge, Harding, Wilson, Taft, and Bill Clinton.

So, you have guys like Jefferson and Adams, part of the list of founding fathers, who didnt serve. Guys like Hoover and FDR who were involved in a very touchy time in US and world history.

Im not taking sides one way or the other, but maybe you should at least do a little fact checking.

Do some fact checking of your own and you'll find that Smirky McFlightsuit is the first pResident who went AWOL from a champagne ANG unit, who deserted during wartime, and who later, as pResident, sent American troops to die in a war based on deliberately trumped-up, cherry-picked, and forged 'intelligence.'

[Spider]

you know what Mock ? ......... you are right , Dean screwed the pooch , could have said anything but what he did ......... for example , We removed Saddam , no Weapons of mass destruction , no danger of it in the imediate future , time we started concidering a gradiual troop withdrawl ..........
I wont say what Dean said was treason , but it was stupid , ignorant , and shows he let his hatred for thr right do his speaking for him ...... I will still vote democrat well a 90% chance of it , but I dont like what Dean said .........

[epicSocialism4tw]

you know what Mock ? ......... you are right , Dean screwed the pooch , could have said anything but what he did ......... for example , We removed Saddam , no Weapons of mass destruction , no danger of it in the imediate future , time we started concidering a gradiual troop withdrawl ..........
I wont say what Dean said was treason , but it was stupid , ignorant , and shows he let his hatred for thr right do his speaking for him ...... I will still vote democrat well a 90% chance of it , but I dont like what Dean said .........


Yeah...Dean has let politicking cloud his better senses. The whole world propagates whatever information that we provide them. Our politicians should do that kind of talking behind closed doors. It's simply not prudent to add fuel to the resistance in the middle east. I know that some Democrats are obsessed with attacking Bush at any angle, but there are larger issues at stake here. We have essentially won this war and its just a matter of time before our troops withdraw en masse. If the Dems want change, they should use their resources to get some things done when the session doors close. Unfortunately I dont think that it matters any longer. Those guys will do whatever it takes to keep as much of their wealth and power in tact as they can. They would sell us to India if it meant keeping the status quo. There are really very few politicians that really have their constituents in mind, and they are neutered because no one else cares.

If our government was smart, they would destroy Al-Jazeera right now and begin building that nation up with other propaganda. That's all Al-Jazeera is anyway. Why not institute propaganda that would be effective? Why not waltz into those studios with cooperative Iraqis that are friendly to the new government and take the place?

[gunns]

STFU...the bullcrap about Bush going AWOL was proven to be more hogwash

No Mock it was never proven. The records just disappeared (Miers) and little snippets of pay records and statements from "others?" appeared.

[gunns]

So it's fine to move it, the point is that Howard Dean is a coward...not many would of read this in the war room, it would of been immediately covered by LABF...now STFU.

The guy will make 20 posts to cover you up...

My main problem with Dean is that the Dem's haven't come out and said WHAT they will/would do. But almost impossible to use the word coward when you have a man who sent over 2000 Americans to their death on points it appears he created and who uses his military record (why wasn't he in Vietnam?)when opportunities arise, yet no one can find them.

[Spider]

Yeah...Dean has let politicking cloud his better senses. The whole world propagates whatever information that we provide them. Our politicians should do that kind of talking behind closed doors. It's simply not prudent to add fuel to the resistance in the middle east. I know that some Democrats are obsessed with attacking Bush at any angle, but there are larger issues at stake here. We have essentially won this war and its just a matter of time before our troops withdraw en masse. If the Dems want change, they should use their resources to get some things done when the session doors close. Unfortunately I dont think that it matters any longer. Those guys will do whatever it takes to keep as much of their wealth and power in tact as they can. They would sell us to India if it meant keeping the status quo. There are really very few politicians that really have their constituents in mind, and they are neutered because no one else cares.
Lets dont get to carried away , Bush fúcked us put us in this situation , I dont like what Dean Said , but this fúcked up mess is still the republicans ball of wax ........ and as far as being obsessed ? STFU Untill Democrats pull the shít republicans did over monica Lewinski , then you can talk about obsession

If our government was smart, they would destroy Al-Jazeera right now and begin building that nation up with other propaganda.
I realy pissed at Dean for having guys like you agree with me ........ Destroy AL Jazeera ? I never read it , wouldnt know what I was reading if I did , but if you want ot spread "Freedom"you dont go taking out Media ..........

That's all Al-Jazeera is anyway. Why not institute propaganda that would be effective? Why not waltz into those studios with cooperative Iraqis that are friendly to the new government and take the place?
LOL ..........you realy think the Shít Bush/Rove pulled here would work anywhere else ? specialy in a Muslim country ?

[epicSocialism4tw]

I realy pissed at Dean for having guys like you agree with me ........ Destroy AL Jazeera ? I never read it , wouldnt know what I was reading if I did , but if you want ot spread "Freedom"you dont go taking out Media ..........

LOL ..........you realy think the Shít Bush/Rove pulled here would work anywhere else ? specialy in a Muslim country ?

"Freedom" is propaganda. You know as well as I do that once we get the heck out of dodge, the Iraqi government will design their own civil rights laws and they'll be very different from what were used to. Their culture is outdated by western standards, so I'm sure that you'll see things go back nearly to the way they were.

Destroying and/or manipulating propaganda outlets has always been a very important part of winning a war. We have shackled ourselves by not taking over the propaganda outlets. Remember the Iraqi Minister of Information? "Were attacking New York!"...yeah...that guy. He was nothing but a propaganda mouthpeice for his government. Al Jazeera is nothing but a propaganda mouthpiece for that region's interests. They could care less about what is right or wrong they just want to manipulate their own people into thinking what they want them to think. Their people are very uneducated and unaware of what their own media is all about, so they have some serious control over the minds of middle easterners. It's unfortunate that some of our own have intentionally fueled their fire from our shores by creating blatant dissention in the public here. I blame our irresponsible news media for that. If they were concerned about winning the war and not politicking for the next presidential election, they would be much more responsible with their stories.

I think that this attitude amongst politicians and their PAC's will ultimately destroy America. Once the jobs get shipped overseas, there wont be anything left of us.

[epicSocialism4tw]

LOL ..........you realy think the Shít Bush/Rove pulled here would work anywhere else ? specialy in a Muslim country ?

They wouldnt know the difference. If you tell a lie enough times, it becomes the truth. Our government knows how to work that angle. There are military professionals who perform those duties.

I know enough poor Iraqis to know that it doesnt take much to get them convinced as long as you are intentional and deliberate with what you say and who says it. Would it really be that difficult to buy Iraqis to disseminate propaganda? Not if they are blowing themselves up for chump change and the hope of 72 virgins when the shrapnel rips their body into shreds.

I have no doubt that it works. If it worked against Germany, it will work against anyone.

[Traveler]

Yeah...Dean has let politicking cloud his better senses. The whole world propagates whatever information that we provide them. Our politicians should do that kind of talking behind closed doors. It's simply not prudent to add fuel to the resistance in the middle east. I know that some Democrats are obsessed with attacking Bush at any angle, but there are larger issues at stake here. We have essentially won this war and its just a matter of time before our troops withdraw en masse. If the Dems want change, they should use their resources to get some things done when the session doors close. Unfortunately I dont think that it matters any longer. Those guys will do whatever it takes to keep as much of their wealth and power in tact as they can. They would sell us to India if it meant keeping the status quo. There are really very few politicians that really have their constituents in mind, and they are neutered because no one else cares.

If our government was smart, they would destroy Al-Jazeera right now and begin building that nation up with other propaganda. That's all Al-Jazeera is anyway. Why not institute propaganda that would be effective? Why not waltz into those studios with cooperative Iraqis that are friendly to the new government and take the place?

Maybe I missed something, but exactly what guys are you speaking of? Democrats? Republicans? Both?

[epicSocialism4tw]

Maybe I missed something, but exactly what guys are you speaking of? Democrats? Republicans? Both?

The statement that you emboldened refers to a general philosophy of politicians of all persuasions, but is being shown like a bald butt by the Dems in this situation.

[Traveler]

The statement that you emboldened refers to a general philosophy of politicians of all persuasions, but is being shown like a bald butt by the Dems in this situation.


How? And there won't be much of anyhting left to sell by the time this administration get finished. The U.S.will almost be a wholly owned subsidiary of China and the Saudis.

[bendog]

Actually, if you look at what Dean said about Iraq in 2003, he doesn't seem so nutty. "the admin decided to invade iraq, and that was decided regardless of womd worries." not a direct quote, but a paraphrase. People said he was a kook. He was right, by wolfowitz's and powell's own admissions.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

STFU Untill Democrats pull the shít republicans did over monica Lewinski , then you can talk about obsession


Hole in one, Tiger Woods! :thumbsup:

[Orange4ever]

Well now C(h)oward Dean is saying his words were taken out of context! This guy is amazing. I think he believes that the old press is still in control and he won't be taken to task for his lies. Well guess again C(h)oward old buddy. The new press has you in their sights, time to take out the trash!!

[Orange4ever]

Actually the more he talks the more people get turned off on the Democrats, So C(h)oward old buddy, keep on talking, there has to be an open mike or camera somewhere!

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Actually the more he talks the more people get turned off on the Democrats, So C(h)oward old buddy, keep on talking, there has to be an open mike or camera somewhere!

rofl

Your party's (and Bush's) approval ratings are swirling the drain, your Congressional Majority Leader is under indictment for money laundering, your Senate Majority Leader is under investigation by the SEC for insider trading, your VP's chief of staff is under indictment for perjury and obstruction, your entire WH is still being investigated for crimes committed in outing a covert CIA operative, and you're worried about something Howard Dean is saying?

rofl

I guess that's what's called a "deflection."

[SteveTensi13]

rofl

Your party's (and Bush's) approval ratings are swirling the drain, your Congressional Majority Leader is under indictment for money laundering, your Senate Majority Leader is under investigation by the SEC for insider trading, your VP's chief of staff is under indictment for perjury and obstruction, your entire WH is still being investigated for crimes committed in outing a covert CIA operative, and you're worried about something Howard Dean is saying?

rofl

I guess that's what's called a "deflection."

Ummm, Valerie Plane is not a covert operative, she was an analyst. Even the writer of the law said the law does not apply to her. Heck, her own husband already "outed" her before all this hype at one of his elitist shin-digs where he constantly introduced Valerie Plane as his '"CIA wife". As far as Tom Delay's problems. Well, his case is falling apart. The prosecuting DA, also a well know democratic activist who has a history of trying to indict political enemies, has seen most of the most serious charges thrown out and most likely the whole case is going up in smoke.

Try again LABF, eventually if you throw enough **** against a wall some of it will stick. Long live C(h)oward Dean!!

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Ummm, Valerie Plane is not a covert operative, she was an analyst. Even the writer of the law said the law does not apply to her. Heck, her own husband already "outed" her before all this hype at one of his elitist shin-digs where he constantly introduced Valerie Plane as his '"CIA wife".

Looks like somebody's been reading his RNC talking points.

Um, FYI, Einstein, the CIA asked for the Plame investigation in the first place.
Do you honestly believe the agency would do such a thing if Plame wasn't a covert op?

As far as Tom Delay's problems. Well, his case is falling apart.

Wrong again.

The judge just upheld the money laundering charges (the more serious charges) against Roach Boy.


The prosecuting DA, also a well know democratic activist who has a history of trying to indict political enemies, has seen most of the most serious charges thrown out and most likely the whole case is going up in smoke.

Strike three.

The overwhelming majority of political figures the prosecutor has indicted throughout his career have been Democrats.

You just make it up as you go along like the rest of the Kool-Aid chuggers, don't you?

Try again LABF, eventually if you throw enough **** against a wall some of it will stick. Long live C(h)oward Dean!!

rofl

Oh, the irony!

But what more can we expect from someone whose avatar tagline might as well say "hey everybody, look at me - I'm illiterate!"