I'm not too upset with the loss but no way can DEN beat INDY.

[azbroncfan]

Denver outplayed KC yesterday but didn't capitolize on INT's, kicked FG's instead of FG, and had 2 INTS thrown. You can't win in Arrowhead playing like that. I didn't think DEN would win this game all week and they played well enough to win just didnt get it done though as Diaper Boy ran all over a tired D and should get a new endorsement deal with Huggies. The part that bothered me though was lack of Pass rush. No way Indy can be beat without pressure and it has to be pressure without blitzing. Den doesn't match up well with INDY or CINN for that matter and I hope Indy goes Undefeated so they can beat JAX and Chargers.

[-Slap-]

The Colts are chokers.

[maven]

The Colts are chokers.


They haven't showed it this year.

I think Cincy has the best chance to beat the Colts in the playoffs.

[fontaine]

They haven't showed it this year.

I think Cincy has the best chance to beat the Colts in the playoffs.


Indy will piss all over that fake Defense again.

The only way to beat the Colts was always and will always be to pound the running game against the small front 7 and keep Manning off the field. We've got the backs, the OL to do it. Do we have the patience and execution?

[maven]

Indy will piss all over that fake Defense again.

The only way to beat the Colts was always and will always be to pound the running game against the small front 7 and keep Manning off the field. We've got the backs, the OL to do it. Do we have the patience and execution?

The bengals can pound the running game against the Colts. Yes their defense isn't that good, but the Bengals have an offense for a shootout or can pound the running game & control clock. If Denver gets down by more than 2 touchdowns it's over. Bengals have a chance to come back if in the same situation.

[Saulbadguy]

Can anyone beat Indy?

[bronco militia]

The Colts are chokers.

not against the Broncos

[bronco militia]

Can anyone beat Indy?


if Chicago could score 2 defensive TD's, they might make a game out of it. But if the Colts get to the Superbowl, against any other NFC team, it's blow out city..

[toad]

I agree...no way our defense (especially secondary) can keep Manning and the Colts in check.

We get killed by Eddie Kennison and Gonzo....we simply don't have the man power to keep Harrison, Wayne, Stokely, and Clark down.

Ferguson is a liability with his blown coverages and Lynch has lost a step. Champ is playing well but does get beat and Darrent Williams is still a rookie. Reggie Wayne will make what Keyshawn did to him look like child's play.

Throw in the fact that Edge is, statiscally and historically speaking, a "better" back than LJ (who just ran over us like nobody's business) and we're in for a long day.

We're good...one of the top 4-5 teams in the AFC, but I think we're a little overrated and that KC exposed all our weaknesses.

[kwbaum829]

COLTS are friggin scarry IMO Bronc D just needs to just show up and it will be close. But the whole dome thing scare's me. We dont exactly shine in domes. Long as the best rounded team shows up that day we will WIN!!!

[x123z]

We can't beat Indy and may not be able to beat the Bengals who seem to be playing better each week. For what ever reason we can't seem to play a full a full game.

[bronco militia]

I agree...no way our defense (especially secondary) can keep Manning and the Colts in check.

We get killed by Eddie Kennison and Gonzo....we simply don't have the man power to keep Harrison, Wayne, Stokely, and Clark down.

Ferguson is a liability with his blown coverages and Lynch has lost a step. Champ is playing well but does get beat and Darrent Williams is still a rookie. Reggie Wayne will make what Keyshawn did to him look like child's play.

Throw in the fact that Edge is, statiscally and historically speaking, a "better" back than LJ (who just ran over us like nobody's business) and we're in for a long day.

We're good...one of the top 4-5 teams in the AFC, but I think we're a little overrated and that KC exposed all our weaknesses.

easy there...the Broncos were able to dominate the Chiefs in the 1st game. Granted the chiefs played better this time around, but the Broncos blew coverages and missed tackles more than they "were exposed".

[yhova]

You guys are under the assumption that Denver will have to go through Indy to get to the big show. Not so fast my friend. I have a really good hunch that Indy is not even going to be in the AFC Champ game.

[NaptownChief]

If Eddie Kennison and Dante Hall are having their way with the Denver secondary then Harrison, Wayne, Clark and Stokely will be blowing them up just like the last two playoff games.

[Mile High Shack]

You guys are under the assumption that Denver will have to go through Indy to get to the big show. Not so fast my friend. I have a really good hunch that Indy is not even going to be in the AFC Champ game.

in the dome, I don't see any team in the AFC matching up enough to beat them

that dome is like their spinach and they are popeye

in a loud outdoor stadium in some weather, Colts could be beaten, but that isn't going to happen this year in the playoffs.

[Rascal]

Our safeties simply sucked balls and our d-line must have ate all of Dalton's 12 pack of donuts before the game.

When the safeties can't remember their assignments and the d-line resembled the browns line from last year you aren't going to stop anybody.

Our CB's are fine, but I'm going to shoot shanny if he doesn't get some legit safeties next year.

[bendog]

Den was having to give too much run support, but aside from the blown assignments and bull**** call on Lynch (I could be ok with it, if the calls went both ways), pass defense wasn't what did Den in. Their tackles played well, better than I expected, esp Welbutrin. But, Den left too many pts on the field. Still a split on the two tough road games is ok. Pitty, Cinny won though

[Mile High Shack]

Our safeties simply sucked balls and our d-line must have ate all of Dalton's 12 pack of donuts before the game.

When the safeties can't remember their assignments and the d-line resembled the browns line from last year you aren't going to stop anybody.

Our CB's are fine, but I'm going to shoot shanny if he doesn't get some legit safeties next year.

I agree about our safety play, it was pretty pathetic yesterday

we need a cover safety

man......ashley lelie...ed reed...nooooooooooooooooooo

[bendog]

I'd rather have a guard, but yeah.

[Rascal]

I'd rather have a guard, but yeah.

I would have agreed with you earlier in the year, but Carlisle is doing a decent enough job IMO that safety play is the bigger detriment to our team.

[bendog]

the MA not a first down ended the game. Ferguson missed the assignment, yeah. But, he pretty much sealed one earlier in the year with a nice pick. Lynch is simply going to cost Den one-two games a year simply because someone in the NFL (Washington) has decided to target him.

As for the guard, maybe I should have said center. We just don't have the push. Carlsile is ok. But, between nails and hamilton, Den is just 20 pounds of lower body power shy.

[DrFate]

It was about pass rush. Assuming we get a rematch with the Colts, it will be about pass rush. Stop the rush and get pressure on the QB.

Green had forever to let plays develop, and no secondary on earth can cover forever. Disappointed in the lack of consistent rush yesterday.>:'(

[Rulon Velvet Jones]

The O-line is what made the Chiefs yesterday. Kennison, Hall and co. aren't the worldbeaters they were made out to be. But when your QB has 10 seconds to find holes in the secondary, it's a different story. The Dline was trying their asses off to get back there, but it wasn't happening.

Anyone think that Indy's line is better than KC's?

[fontaine]

If Eddie Kennison and Dante Hall are having their way with the Denver secondary then Harrison, Wayne, Clark and Stokely will be blowing them up just like the last two playoff games.

There were several blown coverages in that game and especially early on.

That play where Hall scored was insane. Ferguson creeps up to the line of scrimmage and Champ simply releases Hall when it's obvious he's going deep as if he expected cover 2 deep safety help.

That kinda crap happened a couple of times and it really pissed me off. It's one thing to make mistakes but you can't afford to gift points to the other team like that.

Still though, our defense came out flat today and had a bad day. I don't think they're as awful as that obviously, but we can't afford another slip up like that one.

[Smiling Assassin27]

It's the Colts and then a group of incomplete teams. Denver's no different than KC, SD, CIN, or JAX--they're flawed teams that are capable of winning or losing on any given Sunday because their flaw catches up with them in certain matchups.

This team cannot stay with the Colts for 60 minutes.

[Ray Finkle]

I agree about our safety play, it was pretty pathetic yesterday

we need a cover safety

man......ashley lelie...ed reed...nooooooooooooooooooo


when are people going to stop asking this? I think a few insiders have said time and time again that Reed wasn't on their short list. It would have been Javon Walker if Lelie was taken...

[Taco John]

No Way can Denver beat Indy



Looks like it's surrender monkey season so soon? Where's Alec? Usually he's the lead surrender monkey... Not this year? ;)

[bendog]

Well, Den might could beat Indy if Jake played a perfect game, which he didn't. Not to diss him cause he made plays too. But overall, I agree Indy is just a better team, and beating them in the dome is a long, long shot. But they're a team built for one year.

[Taco John]

I think we can compete with anybody in this game, anywhere. Will we need to play a great game in order to get it accomplished. For sure.

[meangene]

It was about pass rush. Assuming we get a rematch with the Colts, it will be about pass rush. Stop the rush and get pressure on the QB.

Green had forever to let plays develop, and no secondary on earth can cover forever. Disappointed in the lack of consistent rush yesterday.>:'(

I agree. No one can cover for as long as our secondary had to yesterday. Green had all day. Our defense looked confused and on their heels all day long. It started up front. No push and no pressure. Looked like the Redskin game only KC finished the drives.

[bendog]

I blame you TJ for the thread predicting a win (-:

[Rock Chalk]

Looks like it's surrender monkey season so soon? Where's Alec? Usually he's the lead surrender monkey... Not this year? ;)
No, I said the same in teh chatroom.

Not a surrender monkey, just a realist asshole. This team is improved over last year and I expect if we make the AFC CHampionship game, we will have a better showing but we aren't good enough to win in the RCA dome and yesterday's game should have shown even you that.

[2KBack]

Man, this place is sad sometimes. A One score loss to a playoff contender, fighting for their lives, on the road, to a rival, and a team that simply doesn't lose at home this time of year. Now we are hopeless frauds, why even play the rest of the season, we can't win anyway right?

[Taco John]

I blame you TJ for the thread predicting a win (-:



Heh... Nice try, but I had chalked this one down as a loss. I didn't expect us to go into KC and get the win in December. The minute I saw the schedule, I had hope we could beat them, but figured it for a loss.

That said... I WASN"T a surrender monkey about it. I figured we had a shot to beat them if we played our best game. We put in a B+ effort but both our offense and our defense struggled in the second half. One side, or the other could have struggled, and we'd have been fine. Both units cant cash in their efforts though.

Bottom line, we need better safety play against these passing oriented attacks, and we need to eventually fix the third down problem that has plagued us since Miami.

[Rascal]

Heh... Nice try, but I had chalked this one down as a loss. I didn't expect us to go into KC and get the win in December. The minute I saw the schedule, I had hope we could beat them, but figured it for a loss.

That said... I WASN"T a surrender monkey about it. I figured we had a shot to beat them if we played our best game. We put in a B+ effort but both our offense and our defense struggled in the second half. One side, or the other could have struggled, and we'd have been fine. Both units cant cash in their efforts though.

Bottom line, we need better safety play against these passing oriented attacks, and we need to eventually fix the third down problem that has plagued us since Miami.

You call those who don't expect us to beat Indy as "surrender monkey" but here you are saying you didn't expect us to beat KC? We have an outside chance if we play our best game against Indy, but we are surrender monkeys while you aren't. Okay TJ.

[dbfan4life]

Now that I've had a chance to calm down from last night, I don't feel so bad about the loss. While I'm not the type of fan who will predict the Broncos to lose any game, this was gonna be a tough game to win. That being said, It think we played well enough to win. Even though we lost, I thought we showed that we can win on the road against a good team if we had to. This is not the end of the world and we are still in great position for the # 2 seed in the AFC. We just have to do what we've done all year after a loss. Come back next week and take it out on the next team we play. I'm still in full blown homer mode and think this team can do something special this year!

[Taco John]

You call those who don't expect us to beat Indy as "surrender monkey" but here you are saying you didn't expect us to beat KC? We have an outside chance if we play our best game against Indy, but we are surrender monkeys while you aren't. Okay TJ.



What you didn't see me doing is starting threads about how we're going to lose the game, and whoa are we, and on and on and on. The fact is, I knew we had it in us to beat KC. I just didn't count on it. I figured that they had more to play for than we did in this game, given that if they lost their season was over.

As far as Indianapolis goes, we're not even playing them this week. Why come on the board and surrender to them already?

THAT'S a surrender monkey. I didn't start one surrender monkey thread about losing to KC. There's your difference.

[bendog]

Jeszzz. Come on, Den was gonna lose at least one of the last 2. The giants game hurts. We're now tied for 2nd best with cinny. And we have SD on the road. Gotta win next week for sure.

chorfs won their superbowl, and now let's get on with the real playoffs.

[OrangeShadow]

i really dont see us beating Indy,especially in indy

[bendog]

I'm more worried about the ravens right now. It'd have been nice to play Boulware or whoever that qb is in the first game and Mia next week, but ....

The guy is not sucking as much as he was early on.

[Rascal]

What you didn't see me doing is starting threads about how we're going to lose the game, and whoa are we, and on and on and on. The fact is, I knew we had it in us to beat KC. I just didn't count on it. I figured that they had more to play for than we did in this game, given that if they lost their season was over.

As far as Indianapolis goes, we're not even playing them this week. Why come on the board and surrender to them already?

THAT'S a surrender monkey. I didn't start one surrender monkey thread about losing to KC. There's your difference.

Since it's your term I guess you can make up the definition but I don't see the difference. Doesn't require one to start a thread to already be surrendering.

Can we beat Indy? Sure...I just wouldn't count on it.

[bendog]

First person to call another (unless a chorf fan) a french ****** shoud be banned. (-:

[apics1]

Can anyone beat Indy?
Themselves.

[Rock Chalk]

What you didn't see me doing is starting threads about how we're going to lose the game, and whoa are we, and on and on and on. The fact is, I knew we had it in us to beat KC. I just didn't count on it. I figured that they had more to play for than we did in this game, given that if they lost their season was over.

As far as Indianapolis goes, we're not even playing them this week. Why come on the board and surrender to them already?

THAT'S a surrender monkey. I didn't start one surrender monkey thread about losing to KC. There's your difference.
Yet you called me out in this thread as a surrender monkey and I did none of those things.

Get your ****ing facts straight.

[Spider]

no way Denver can beat Indy ?
this conclusion was made off of a Rivalry game ?
wow .......

[NaptownChief]

no way Denver can beat Indy ?
this conclusion was made off of a Rivalry game ?
wow .......



A little more going into it than that....Factor in that the Colts are whipping everybody in sight and the Donks have now dropped games to a decent Chiefs and Giants team and a bad Dolphins squad. Bit more than just one rivalry loss being factored into that assessment.

[i4jelway7]

A little more going into it than that....Factor in that the Colts are whipping everybody in sight and the Donks have now dropped games to a decent Chiefs and Giants team and a bad Dolphins squad. Bit more than just one rivalry loss being factored into that assessment.


and very easily coulda/shoulda lost to the Skins & SD

[fontaine]

Looks like it's surrender monkey season so soon? Where's Alec? Usually he's the lead surrender monkey... Not this year? ;)


rofl LOL

Hilarious!

[azbroncfan]

I'm not down at all on the Broncs as I expected them to lose to KC lkike they always do. Den beat themselves yesterday with FG's and Turnovers and KC played about as good as they can and that was barely enough. DEN is 2nd best team in the league but the NFL is all about matchups and DEN doesn't match up well at all with INDY. You can give the chargers and the chiefs 5 losses as they play each other and they both should lose 1 more game. DEN needs to win DIVISION then hope Cincy loses 1-2 more games. Yesterday was a big loss as now DEN will probably have to try and beat SD in SD if they win out. DEN doesn't know who to route 4 yet in the SD/KC game.