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PatsWin2002
12-02-2005, 10:28 AM
From DenverBroncos.com:

I like the first line ....comparing Chief fans to Raider fans.....that ought to get a few people riled up. :)

http://cbs4denver.com/broncos/local_story_336123408.html

Dec 2, 2005 10:34 am US/Mountain
Broncos Face Tough December Challenge At Arrowhead
by Andrew Mason, DenverBroncos.com

ENGLEWOOD, Colo. Evidently, Oakland's Black Hole doesn't have the market cornered on fans who push the envelope of absurdity in their fanaticism for their beloved teams.

Kansas City's Arrowhead Stadium -- a low-slung, 33-year-old concrete palace where fans always know how to dress and exactly when to yell in support of their hometown Chiefs -- has a few odd denizens of its own, some of whom can practically reach out and touch players thanks to one of the tiniest buffer zones between sidelines and stands in the NFL.

"I still remember a few years ago this one old lady cussed me out (at Arrowhead)," said Broncos wide receiver Rod Smith. "I was laughing so hard it was funny."

But what makes a difference in the game is the confining din that makes it seem as though the opposing offense is caught between the blades in a blender of noise.

"That's the loudest place that I can remember playing," fullback Kyle Johnson said. "The fans are emphatic and you've just got to be able to establish some form of ground game to have anything going on."

"You've got 80,000 people in red and they're booing you," Smith added. "That's the environment that you want. That's a playoff atmosphere. It's a playoff game."

And it's one where the Broncos likely will find their pre-snap routine obscured by the sonic boom descending from the grandstands.

"You know it is going to be a challenge all day long just to hear the snap count," quarterback Jake Plummer said.

Added Johnson: "You try to stay as poised as you can, (and) practice with noise -- which I think all teams in the NFL do -- and you just have to hope that you can see and help the quarterback, because if you have to make checks, you want to be able to see them so he doesn't always have to try to tell you, he can see for himself."

The raucous atmosphere seeps into the Chiefs' players.

"They just feel more comfortable on their own grass, (with) all that red around them," defensive end Trevor Pryce said. "I don't know how to explain it, but they are tough to beat in Arrowhead."

And the Broncos' record in games there less than stellar -- no matter what time of year it is.

In the past 15 years, the Broncos are just 4-11 at any point in the season inside the Chiefs' home confines, and only 2-8 in the last 10 seasons. But the 1-11 December mark in Arrowhead Stadium -- and 1-14 record in December games in Kansas City -- stands as the defining historical statistic heading into Sunday's game.

"They are as tough as they get this time of year at their place," Plummer said. "It is a tough place to play."

No AFC West stadium has been more problematic in the last decade for the Broncos than Arrowhead. Since 1995, the Broncos have gone 8-3 at Oakland's McAfee Coliseum, 5-5 at San Diego's Qualcomm Stadium, and 5-3 in the Seattle Seahawks' various homes (4-3 when they were in the AFC West, 1-0 after the 'Hawks moved to the NFC West in 2002).

"I've lost in that place more than any place I've ever been," Smith said.

What the Broncos hope is that on this Sunday, it brings out their best.

"It raises up your game," Plummer said.

BRONCOS BYTES: Linebacker Keith Burns and offensive tackle Cornell Green each sat out Thursday's practice. The status for each on the injury report remained unchanged; Burns is listed as questionable with a knee injury while Green is doubtful with a shoulder injury ... Kansas City defensive end Carlos Hall practiced Thursday after sitting out Wednesday; he remains questionable ... The Chiefs added offensive tackle Jeremy Parquet to their injury report due to a knee problem; he did not practice Thursday ... The Broncos returned some of their allotted tickets for Sunday's game, making them available for public sale.

Pezman
12-02-2005, 10:40 AM
One thing that you can always count on in these horrid December matchups in KC, the freaking frozen weather.

This year will be no exception once again as they are talking temperatures in the low 30's with a decent chance of snow forcast for the game. As we know, the Broncos of the past couple of years do not play well in adverse conditions (Heat, rain, snow) and unless we plan on making a realistic run in January, we best figure out how to be more effective against the conditions.

PatsWin2002
12-02-2005, 10:55 AM
As we know, the Broncos of the past couple of years do not play well in adverse conditions (Heat, rain, snow).....

Then you'll be fine in the RCA Dome! ;)

ludo21
12-02-2005, 11:01 AM
Then you'll be fine in the RCA Dome! ;)


Yep! !Booya!

Bronco202
12-02-2005, 11:17 AM
How many times do we have to go through this. NO WE HAVE NOT BEATEN THE CHIEFS AT ARROWHEAD IN DECEMBER IN 11 YEARS. NOBODY BEATS THEM AT ARROWHEAD IN DECEMBER --EVER.

Kaylore
12-02-2005, 11:29 AM
One thing that you can always count on in these horrid December matchups in KC, the freaking frozen weather.

This year will be no exception once again as they are talking temperatures in the low 30's with a decent chance of snow forcast for the game. As we know, the Broncos of the past couple of years do not play well in adverse conditions (Heat, rain, snow) and unless we plan on making a realistic run in January, we best figure out how to be more effective against the conditions.
I think we're getting better about playing in bad weather. If you look at the Jags game and the Redskins game, both were in adverse conditions and we managed to execute and make big plays. The Philly game was raining hard and very cold as well. This team is at the point where they know how to play in and win in adverse conditions. I think we'll put on a good show.

Mile High Shack
12-02-2005, 11:35 AM
I think we're getting better about playing in bad weather. If you look at the Jags game and the Redskins game, both were in adverse conditions and we managed to execute and make big plays. The Philly game was raining hard and very cold as well. This team is at the point where they know how to play in and win in adverse conditions. I think we'll put on a good show.

just looked at national weather service...doesn't mention snow..woohooo

Sunday: Mostly cloudy, with a high near 33. Calm wind becoming north northwest between 5 and 8 mph.

Sunday Night: Mostly cloudy, with a low around 19

doesn't look like wind will be much of a factor either

cold Broncos can handle

Spider
12-02-2005, 11:45 AM
I expect a tough game come sunday ( and yes looks like I will be home... My truck needs alot of work done ;D ) .........

Crushaholic
12-02-2005, 12:13 PM
Bell fumbled in Texas Stadium. Bad weather doesn't necessarily translate into bad play. If there is an expectation of bad weather, there needs to be an added emphasis on holding on to the ball. You don't think about it as much in good conditions.

ludo21
12-02-2005, 12:14 PM
I expect a tough game come sunday ( and yes looks like I will be home... My truck needs alot of work done ;D ) .........


good to hear! :USA:

ZachKC
12-02-2005, 12:16 PM
Good read.

Atlas
12-02-2005, 12:17 PM
Bell fumbled in Texas Stadium. Bad weather doesn't necessarily translate into bad play. If there is an expectation of bad weather, there needs to be an added emphasis on holding on to the ball. You don't think about it as much in good conditions.


Bell didn't play at Texas stadium.

Rock Chalk
12-02-2005, 12:17 PM
Tuesday is the only day of the week worth reading articles. 1 in 20 after Tuesday are original, the rest are just rehashes of what the AP guys said on Tuesday.

I mean, seriously, how many ways can you say "Denver faces tough challenge this week" and rehash all the stats of the same ****ing thing?

I guess its all relative. Same thing happens here. One post comes up, its talked about, then some dumbass who doesnt know how to use the search feature starts a new thread about the same bloody thing leaving us all to live in permanent deja vu.

Rock Chalk
12-02-2005, 12:18 PM
Good read.
Whatever you schmuck. If it talked about Denver's homefield advantage you would be laying some bull**** smack.

Because it painted KC in a somewhat positive light, you say "good read". I thought it was garbage and more of the same dimwitted **** that you Chef fans seem to like.

ZachKC
12-02-2005, 12:20 PM
Whatever you schmuck. If it talked about Denver's homefield advantage you would be laying some bull**** smack.

Because it painted KC in a somewhat positive light, you say "good read". I thought it was garbage and more of the same dimwitted **** that you Chef fans seem to like.
Waaaahhhhhhhh

Heh, I wouldn't be laying down any smack on Denver's homefield advantage...its pretty obvious.

TheDave
12-02-2005, 12:23 PM
I expect a tough game come sunday ( and yes looks like I will be home... My truck needs alot of work done ;D ) .........

that truck wouldn't be a Ford, would it? :poke:

Crushaholic
12-02-2005, 12:28 PM
Bell didn't play at Texas stadium.

That's right. Anderson fumbled...temporary brain fart on my part. My point remains, though...

dbfan4life
12-02-2005, 12:36 PM
How many times do we have to go through this. NO WE HAVE NOT BEATEN THE CHIEFS AT ARROWHEAD IN DECEMBER IN 11 YEARS. NOBODY BEATS THEM AT ARROWHEAD IN DECEMBER --EVER.

Well, at least you keeping a positive outlook.???

PatsWin2002
12-02-2005, 12:41 PM
Tuesday is the only day of the week worth reading articles. 1 in 20 after Tuesday are original, the rest are just rehashes of what the AP guys said on Tuesday.

I mean, seriously, how many ways can you say "Denver faces tough challenge this week" and rehash all the stats of the same ****ing thing?

I guess its all relative. Same thing happens here. One post comes up, its talked about, then some dumbass who doesnt know how to use the search feature starts a new thread about the same bloody thing leaving us all to live in permanent deja vu.

True, there is a lot of fluff later in the week unless news breaks.

But I decided to post that because it was from Andrew Mason of DenverBroncos.com ....not some AP shmoe sitting in New York trying to meet some quota. :)

Hogan11
12-02-2005, 01:05 PM
I'm so sick & tired of reading this stuff about having problems playing @ the A Hole in December. ZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.

Pezman
12-02-2005, 01:13 PM
I'm so sick & tired of reading this stuff about having problems playing @ the A Hole in December. ZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.

But you gotta admit, its a record worth bearing validity. Not to mention that it would make it that much sweeter when we do win come Sunday. Stats geeks may argue about dominance from year to year, but in this case, as long as we get the W on Sunday, history means exactly jack...

By the way, the forcast from Wunderground.com is still calling for a 20% chance of snow on Saturday night FWIW

http://www.wunderground.com/US/MO/Kansas_City.html

Hogan11
12-02-2005, 01:26 PM
But you gotta admit, its a record worth bearing validity. Not to mention that it would make it that much sweeter when we do win come Sunday. Stats geeks may argue about dominance from year to year, but in this case, as long as we get the W on Sunday, history means exactly jack...

By the way, the forcast from Wunderground.com is still calling for a 20% chance of snow on Saturday night FWIW

http://www.wunderground.com/US/MO/Kansas_City.html

It's coincidental bullshat....but that's fine. If Chef fans wanna use that in order to provide themselves with some sort of hope.....fine.

I say what happened on MNF will happen again.....why?

because this team is just that damn good.

RaiderH8r
12-02-2005, 01:30 PM
Chiefs Face January Adversity at Golf Course...Again

To lay up or go for the green because the playoffs are definitely out of reach.

HA!

Crushaholic
12-02-2005, 02:49 PM
But you gotta admit, its a record worth bearing validity. Not to mention that it would make it that much sweeter when we do win come Sunday. Stats geeks may argue about dominance from year to year, but in this case, as long as we get the W on Sunday, history means exactly jack...

By the way, the forcast from Wunderground.com is still calling for a 20% chance of snow on Saturday night FWIW

http://www.wunderground.com/US/MO/Kansas_City.html

Even if we do get a few snowflakes on Saturday, they won't stick. The ground isn't cold enough. There "SHOULD" be no problems with travel....

Spider
12-02-2005, 02:59 PM
that truck wouldn't be a Ford, would it? :poke:
:moon: Frieghtliner ;D

MrPeepers
12-02-2005, 03:03 PM
It's always dangerous to be overconfident about a game like this, we should not win this game. I just have a very confident hunch this time around that it's not going to be as close as we all think. I think we are going to take the crowd out early, and I think that the chiefs running game is going to sputter. I said before 31-21, with the game being not even that close. I think tater is going to blast the Chiefs D and expose it. This weekend is the end of the Chiefs.

p.s. c0cky actually gets translated into corky.

Bronco202
12-02-2005, 03:40 PM
It's always dangerous to be overconfident about a game like this, we should not win this game. I just have a very confident hunch this time around that it's not going to be as close as we all think. I think we are going to take the crowd out early, and I think that the chiefs running game is going to sputter. I said before 31-21, with the game being not even that close. I think tater is going to blast the Chiefs D and expose it. This weekend is the end of the Chiefs.

p.s. c0cky actually gets translated into corky.


I'm with ya on that , but just remember they haven't given up a 100 yards to a single back all season and Larry Johnson was just named AFC offensive player of the month. I'm sweatin bullets come Sunday.

MrPeepers
12-02-2005, 03:44 PM
<TABLE class=tablehead style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; BACKGROUND: #fff; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; MARGIN: 0px; PADDING-TOP: 0px" cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0><TBODY><TR vAlign=top><TD style="WIDTH: 50%">From our first meeting
you can call this a 150 yard game since Mike and Tatum tore them up.
We do it again this week.
We arent the only ones to hang 90 something yards on them, thats close enough to tell me that rushing defense is due for humiliation. They have a false sense of confidence.

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Bob's your Information Minister
12-02-2005, 03:58 PM
It is interesting to me that 100 of Denver's rushing yards came on 3 carries.

We've stopped the long run all year so I don't expect to see that again.