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Master___Pain
11-29-2005, 09:57 AM
Hard to believe that this boob is the same dude that some are calling the savior of the chefs _efense.

http://tennessean.com/galleries/2005/et/0611cmaday3/images/cma20.jpg

http://www.orangemane.com/BB/image.php?u=2284&dateline=1133141119

A physical specimen to be sure::)

ludo21
11-29-2005, 10:06 AM
Ha!

Always gotta remember that their expectations are lower. Keep that in mind.

scorpio
11-29-2005, 10:10 AM
http://lamar.colostate.edu/~cheppner/jared_vermiel.jpg

Raidersbane
11-29-2005, 10:38 AM
Wat is that last word written on his belly?

Master___Pain
11-29-2005, 10:41 AM
Wat is that last word written on his belly?


Country, as in Blues Country, as in he loves them them.Hilarious!

redrage
11-29-2005, 10:43 AM
He is a goofy bastard, but he's made more plays this season than the KC defensive line has the last 3-4 years combined. He's got one heck of a motor. For a 5th round pick, I'll take it. He's one of the better DE's in the game.

Raidersbane
11-29-2005, 10:45 AM
Country, as in Blues Country, as in he loves them them.Hilarious!

It looks more like LLUNTY or C****Y. There is no r there best as I can see.

Master___Pain
11-29-2005, 10:56 AM
It looks more like LLUNTY or C****Y. There is no r there best as I can see.

He IS a dlinemen. Spelling and counting are not strong suits of the chefs apparently.

Bob's your Information Minister
11-29-2005, 11:09 AM
I guess Courtney Brown looks better with his shirt off, but I'll take the 8 sacks and 6 forced fumbles.

orange crusher
11-29-2005, 11:35 AM
I guess Courtney Brown looks better with his shirt off, but I'll take the 8 sacks and 6 forced fumbles.

I'll take the nine wins.

NaptownChief
11-29-2005, 11:38 AM
I'll take the nine wins.


You would probably have 10 if you had Allen instead of Brown. First off Allen would have played in week 1 which is something Brown couldn't pull off if I remember and secondly Allen clearly knows how to beat them pesky Dolphins. :pimp:

orange crusher
11-29-2005, 11:46 AM
You would probably have 10 if you had Allen instead of Brown. First off Allen would have played in week 1 which is something Brown couldn't pull off if I remember and secondly Allen clearly knows how to beat them pesky Dolphins. :pimp:

Yeah, right. You obviously didn't watch the game if you think inserting Allen into our lineup in week 1 would have made a difference. I'm happy with the way Brown has played...and I'll bet you will admit that he has played a whole lot more than you expected before the season.

Master___Pain
11-29-2005, 12:43 PM
I'll take the nine wins.

Exactly. Boob tripping over stats again. The only stat that matters.....W's.

Bob's your Information Minister
11-29-2005, 01:15 PM
So Courtney Brown is the reason you are 9-2 instead of 7-4?

Retards.

Rock Chalk
11-29-2005, 01:20 PM
So Courtney Brown is the reason you are 9-2 instead of 7-4?

Retards.
I read the whole thread moron and not one person said that.

redrage
11-29-2005, 01:21 PM
How many games has Brown even played this year? I never hear his name called when I watch a Denver game.

broncosteven
11-29-2005, 01:22 PM
You would probably have 10 if you had Allen instead of Brown. First off Allen would have played in week 1 which is something Brown couldn't pull off if I remember and secondly Allen clearly knows how to beat them pesky Dolphins. :pimp:


I hope Brown can help us put a TD on the Bills!

Bob's your Information Minister
11-29-2005, 01:27 PM
I read the whole thread moron and not one person said that.

I'll take the nine wins.

orange crusher is insinuating that Courtney Brown is the reason you have 2 more wins than the Chiefs.

It's utterly ridiculous.

orange crusher
11-29-2005, 01:33 PM
orange crusher is insinuating that Courtney Brown is the reason you have 2 more wins than the Chiefs.

It's utterly ridiculous.

No idiot, you were insinuating that Allen was better than Brown because of his stats. The Dline for the Broncos haven't gotten a lot of sacks, but they have pressured the he!! out of oposing QB's and played as a team (net result when everyone is playing as a team - W's). I'm saying I'll take W's instead of stats. Got that?

As Nappy said (I think it was Nappy) in another thread, just because Kevin Curtis has better stats than Hines Ward, it doesn't mean he is a better player.

You sure have been doing a p!ss poor job of trying to twist things I say around lately.

Sarcastro
11-29-2005, 01:37 PM
No idiot, you were insinuating that Allen was better than Brown because of his stats. The Dline for the Broncos haven't gotten a lot of sacks, but they have pressured the he!! out of oposing QB's and played as a team (net result when everyone is playing as a team - W's). I'm saying I'll take W's instead of stats. Got that?

As Nappy said (I think it was Nappy) in another thread, just because Kevin Curtis has better stats than Hines Ward, it doesn't mean he is a better player.

You sure have been doing a p!ss poor job of trying to twist things I say around lately.

So you are saying Brown has given you two wins.

Bob's your Information Minister
11-29-2005, 01:39 PM
So you are saying Brown has given you two wins.

That's exactly what he's saying.

And Allen is better than Brown. Anyone arguing otherwise is just silly.

I mean, really. This place would be jizzing all over itself if Courtney Brown had 8 sacks and 6 forced fumbles.

orange crusher
11-29-2005, 01:39 PM
So you are saying Brown has given you two wins.

Where do you see that I said this?

Bob's your Information Minister
11-29-2005, 01:41 PM
Where do you see that I said this?

Ok retard, listen.

I said Allen was better than Brown.

You essentially said "Really? I think Brown is better! Our team has more wins because of him!"

orange crusher
11-29-2005, 01:42 PM
That's exactly what he's saying.

And Allen is better than Brown. Anyone arguing otherwise is just silly.

I mean, really. This place would be jizzing all over itself if Courtney Brown had 8 sacks and 6 forced fumbles.

Show me where exactly I said this Bob. I don't give two squirts of p!ss about stats if they don't result in wins. I guess that is something you just don't understand, do you. Courtney has been an important cog in our defense. Where was Allen when the Broncos were running all over his team?

Bob's your Information Minister
11-29-2005, 01:42 PM
OK, so why is Courtney better than Allen?

orange crusher
11-29-2005, 01:44 PM
Ok retard, listen.

I said Allen was better than Brown.

You essentially said "Really? I think Brown is better! Our team has more wins because of him!"

No, I didn't say that we have more wins because of him. I'm saying he was a part of many of those wins. You really are more ignorant than I gave you credit for.

Bob's your Information Minister
11-29-2005, 01:44 PM
Great! So Allen IS better than Courtney!

orange crusher
11-29-2005, 01:54 PM
Denver rotates 7 or 8 Dlinemen during games. Brown isn't necessarily going to have a lot of flashy stats. I've seen him get sacks, recover fumbles, make plays behind the line of scrimmage. He has been solid against the run, something opposing fans and the media didn't think he would be because of the rush d statistics of the Browns last year. Individual players don't win games in the NFL.

Bob's your Information Minister
11-29-2005, 01:55 PM
That's nice.

WHO IS BETTER AND WHY?

orange crusher
11-29-2005, 01:57 PM
That's nice.

WHO IS BETTER AND WHY?

Where's your case for Allen, his sacks and fumbles? That's also very nice.

Connecticut Bronco Fan
11-29-2005, 01:58 PM
http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/9120/louie6am.jpg

Look at this poor girl, she has to smell Jared Allen

Bob's your Information Minister
11-29-2005, 01:59 PM
Where's your case for Allen, his sacks and fumbles? That's also very nice.

He's a complete defensive end. Doesn't get beat in the run game if you were wondering either. Has made plenty of tackles for loss. Gets his hands up and slaps the ball down, too.

There's no case for Brown. I wouldn't try to make one for Allen if he had 1/4 of the sacks.

Broncoman13
11-29-2005, 02:02 PM
That's nice.

WHO IS BETTER AND WHY?

I sure as hell hope you turned in your "right to reproduce" card! You have got to be the biggest idiot in the world. I bet Alec is ashamed to live in the same city as you.

I suppose you're going to tell me that Allen is better than Pryce or Strahan or Freeney or Taylor too right. Listen to yourself. I guess Dwayne Carswell is a better offensive weapon than Tony Gonzalez. I guess Eddie Kennison is a bigger threat at WR than Randy Moss. All of this according to you is truth. You're a freaking idiot and you're posts have become unbareable. I pitty you!

Bob's your Information Minister
11-29-2005, 02:04 PM
According to Stats Inc, here is the breakdown:

Brown - 17 tackles, 2 sacks, 3 tackles for loss, 0 forced fumbles, 1 pass defensed

Allen - 38 tackles, 8 sacks, 3.5 tackles for loss, 6 forced fumbles, 4 passes defensed

I don't see how anyone can make a case for Brown.

Master___Pain
11-29-2005, 02:04 PM
OK, so why is Courtney better than Allen?

Not one person has said this you ****ing retard. Jesus Christ you are stupid.

Bob's your Information Minister
11-29-2005, 02:06 PM
I suppose you're going to tell me that Allen is better than Pryce or Strahan or Freeney or Taylor too right. Listen to yourself. I guess Dwayne Carswell is a better offensive weapon than Tony Gonzalez. I guess Eddie Kennison is a bigger threat at WR than Randy Moss.

WRONG DIP****!

Moss doesn't have 1/4 of the receiving yards of Moss. Strahan or Taylor don't have 2 sacks apeice!!

Maybe if Brown wasn't such a bum and had more than 2 measly sacks I'd consider it a closer contest. Eric Hicks has 2 freaking sacks for crying out loud!

Get a clue!

Allen > Brown.

Bob's your Information Minister
11-29-2005, 02:08 PM
Not one person has said this you ****ing retard. Jesus Christ you are stupid.

orange crush sure has been trying to make a case for it. First it was because Denver was 9-2. Now it's because Brown plays less or some other garbage.

The truth is you guys would be going NUTS if ANY of your defensive linemen had matched Allen's production.

Master___Pain
11-29-2005, 02:09 PM
Allen > Brown.

Quick, some one alert the HOF. The way you're slurping your boy you'd think that he was the second coming of Lawrence Taylor.

Bob's your Information Minister
11-29-2005, 02:10 PM
Quick, some one alert the HOF. The way you're slurping your boy you'd think that he was the second coming of Lawrence Taylor.

He's pretty damn good. I'm not going to sit here and take this bull**** sitting down. **** you guys!

Rock Chalk
11-29-2005, 02:10 PM
That's nice.

WHO IS BETTER AND WHY?
Brown is better.

Allen wouldnt start in Denver, would barely get rotated in.

Connecticut Bronco Fan
11-29-2005, 02:12 PM
Jared Allen would start in Denver.



As a Long Snapper

scorpio
11-29-2005, 02:12 PM
He's pretty damn good. I'm not going to sit here and take this bull**** sitting down. **** you guys!

This is what I like to call "Indignant Bob".

Pretty soon we'll see "Professor Bob"

and then on Monday we'll see "Apologist Bob"

Bob's your Information Minister
11-29-2005, 02:14 PM
Jared Allen: 8 sacks

Courtney Brown, Michael Myers, Gerard Warren, Ebenezer Ekuban: 7 sacks

That is some funny shiat! ROFL!

Bob's your Information Minister
11-29-2005, 02:15 PM
Brown is better.


How do you figure? Provide something to back up your opinion, I have.

Broncoman13
11-29-2005, 02:19 PM
You haven't done shiat except for make a fool of yourself boob. You're the 2nd biggest idiot to ever walk the earth. You should be paying Iowanian for keeping you off the top of that list!

Master___Pain
11-29-2005, 02:20 PM
He's pretty damn good. I'm not going to sit here and take this bull**** sitting down. **** you guys!

Yep he's been good for 11 games. Actually check that, he been good in five games, in which he's had his 8 sacks...and what's this...5 of his six fumbles came in the games in which he had a sack. In the other 6 games he's been pretty much invisable. Sounds an awful lot like a former DE the Broncos had that was great in about 6 games, where he'd pile up the sacks and then dissappear in the other 10.....

Allen=Reggie Hayward....maybe..

Bob's your Information Minister
11-29-2005, 02:23 PM
Yep he's been good for 11 games. Actually check that, he been good in five games, in which he's had his 8 sacks...and what's this...5 of his six fumbles came in the games in which he had a sack. In the other 6 games he's been pretty much invisable. Sounds an awful lot like a former DE the Broncos had that was great in about 6 games, where he'd pile up the sacks and then dissappear in the other 10.....

Allen=Reggie Hayward....maybe..

11 games? Did you even watch him during his rookie year? He had 9 sacks and barely even played in the first 5 or 6 weeks.

It's obvious you don't even watch Allen on a weekly basis. He never disappears. If not getting a sack is "disappearing," then what the fvck has Courtney Brown been doing with 2 sacks all year?

You just got owned by Boob!

Atlas
11-29-2005, 02:29 PM
I would trade both Ecuban and Brown for Allen.

Master___Pain
11-29-2005, 02:31 PM
You just got owned by Boob!


Dream on fan boy.

And of course I dont see Allen every ****ing game you dip****. Why the **** would I watch every chiefs game? Keep in mind I never said CB was/is better than Allen. I said I like 9-2 better than 7-4. Period. Arguing with you is brain damage. Allen has some nice stats, 8 sacks 6 FF. Freaking awesome.

And yes, he did disappeared against the Broncos in the first game. Along with the rest of the chiefs.

Broncoman13
11-29-2005, 02:32 PM
Larry Allen? Marcus Allen? Maybe Ray Allen?

Bob's your Information Minister
11-29-2005, 02:35 PM
Arguing with you is brain damage.

I could say the same thing about Courtney Brown's pimps in this thread. It's almost comical.

orange crusher
11-29-2005, 02:47 PM
Trevor Pryce had 4 tackles and no sacks against the chiefs on 9/26. Allen had 8 tackles that same game. Who had the better game Bob? Pryce was a complete wrecking ball that game while Allen did very little. Stats don't tell the whole story.

Bob's your Information Minister
11-29-2005, 02:49 PM
Trevor Pryce had 4 tackles and no sacks against the chiefs on 9/26. Allen had 8 tackles that same game. Who had the better game Bob? Pryce was a complete wrecking ball that game while Allen did very little. Stats don't tell the whole story.

Now you are trying to weasel out with tackle numbers. Pathetic.

Allen > Brown

orange crusher
11-29-2005, 02:51 PM
Now you are trying to weasel out with tackle numbers. Pathetic.

Allen > Brown

You've been standing on Allen's stats to try to show he is the better player. I'm simply pointing out that stats don't always tell the whole story. Btw, you didn't answer the question of who had the better game.

elsid13
11-29-2005, 02:54 PM
Ok Boob, let start with simple logic questions: Does Allen play all 3 down for the Chefs? How many games has he played? Is he is 4 man rotation on the line? Does he play only at one end or does rotate around?

Because Allen has greater amount spent on the field I would hope that he had better stats then a player that as 25% of his time. And before illogically jump to conclusion more time equals a better player think again

FADERPROOF
11-29-2005, 02:54 PM
Ok retard, listen.

I said Allen was better than Brown.

You essentially said "Really? I think Brown is better! Our team has more wins because of him!"

Actually he didnt say that, ****nut.

Bob's your Information Minister
11-29-2005, 03:00 PM
You've been standing on Allen's stats to try to show he is the better player.

That's true. You've also been standing on nothing in your attempt to elevate Courtney over Allen.

Bob's your Information Minister
11-29-2005, 03:04 PM
Does Allen play all 3 down for the Chefs?

Most of the time, yes.

How many games has he played? Is he is 4 man rotation on the line? Does he play only at one end or does rotate around?

He's played all 11. He's played at least 3 positions on the line and lines up at both DE spots quite often.

Because Allen has greater amount spent on the field I would hope that he had better stats then a player that as 25% of his time. And before illogically jump to conclusion more time equals a better player think again.

OK, so you're saying Courtney only plays 15 snaps a game? And that's why he doesn't have the same kind of production?

Fair enough. At least I don't have to make excuses for Jared.

I still see nothing here that would indicate Courtney's better than Allen.

BTW, I seriously doubt he only plays 25 percent of the snaps. I'll be watching this weekend and will call you on it if he's out there more.

24champ
11-29-2005, 03:16 PM
Allow me to chime in....

Jared Allen can have all the sacks in the world but we all know Jared Allen will be sitting on a couch in January eating chips and watching the Broncos who play like a TEAM who is 9-2. Chiefs are 7-4. Thats the problem with chief fans they never recognize TEAMWORK just individual stats and then they make their players seem bigger than they really are. Jared Allen is a good D-lineman but the rest of the _efense sucks. We can argue about Jared Allen vs Courtney Brown but we are all missing the fact that the Broncos work as a team and thats what matters. Bob can jack off to Jared's stats all he wants but I will take 9-2 anyday.

Bob's your Information Minister
11-29-2005, 03:19 PM
Way to completely miss the point, but this is 24champbailey we're talking about.

You're also wrong about our defense. They play together as a team incredibly well.

24champ
11-29-2005, 03:21 PM
Way to completely miss the point, but this is 24champbailey we're talking about.

You're also wrong about our defense. They play together as a team incredibly well.
Your wins and losses dont show it...

orange crusher
11-29-2005, 03:25 PM
Way to completely miss the point, but this is 24champbailey we're talking about.

No he didn't.

Bob's your Information Minister
11-29-2005, 03:26 PM
Your wins and losses dont show it...

What are you talking about? We were 3-8 at this point last year.

With the decline of our O, our D has had to step up big time this year.

Bob's your Information Minister
11-29-2005, 03:27 PM
No he didn't.

Sure did. He started talking about the teams instead of Jared Allen and Courtney.

24champ
11-29-2005, 03:29 PM
What are you talking about? We were 3-8 at this point last year.

With the decline of our O, our D has had to step up big time this year.
Your _efense crumbled a couple times this year, you still have an average _efense and thats why your 7-4 and not 9-2 like us.

TheDave
11-29-2005, 03:39 PM
damn $hit must be real bad in chef world... Now we are comparing one stat of KC's best D-Lineman against one of the less used Browncos. Boob your a sad little man/boy. Funny, as good as J. Allen is you would trade him for T. Pryce in a heart beat.

Bob's your Information Minister
11-29-2005, 03:39 PM
Your _efense crumbled a couple times this year, you still have an average _efense and thats why your 7-4 and not 9-2 like us.

You clearly haven't watched KC much this year, if at all.

The offense shared a large part of the blame in the Philly and Buffalo losses.

FADERPROOF
11-29-2005, 03:40 PM
There goes Bob using stats again, whenever it seems appropriate to.

Bob, you get absolutely abused in every argument here at Orange Mane, give it up and let it go.

Bob's your Information Minister
11-29-2005, 03:42 PM
There goes Bob using stats again, whenever it seems appropriate to.

Bob, you get absolutely abused in every argument here at Orange Mane, give it up and let it go.

Whatever. I've been using and abusing everyone in this thread.

So far the best argument for Courtney is that she only plays 25 percent of the snaps. Hilarious!

FADERPROOF
11-29-2005, 03:45 PM
Whatever. I've been using and abusing everyone in this thread.

So far the best argument for Courtney is that she only plays 25 percent of the snaps. Hilarious!

Give yourself a pat on the back, you're too dumb to even realize the asskicking that you get around here.

TheDave
11-29-2005, 03:46 PM
Idiots are always the last to know...

Bob's your Information Minister
11-29-2005, 03:58 PM
Give yourself a pat on the back, you're too dumb to even realize the asskicking that you get around here.

You tard. Please point out how my ass is getting kicked in this thread when the best argument for Ms. Brown is her lack of playing time.

elsid13
11-29-2005, 04:03 PM
You tard. Please point out how my ass is getting kicked in this thread when the best argument for Ms. Brown is her lack of playing time.


Bobo you sure spend a lot of time making fun of the manhood of others, a psychologist might think you personnel masculine issues

PS if divide allen's stats by 1/4(25% percent of the time) you get 2 sack and 8 tackles how do those number compare to Browns????

24champ
11-29-2005, 04:05 PM
You clearly haven't watched KC much this year, if at all.

The offense shared a large part of the blame in the Philly and Buffalo losses.
You can blame your offense but in the Philly game your _efense blew a lead, allowed a QB who shouldnt be playing in the NFL throw 2 touchdowns, allowed Denver to run all over you, Allowed Gates to rape you the list goes on and thats why your 7-4.

Master___Pain
11-29-2005, 04:12 PM
Whatever. I've been using and abusing everyone in this thread.

So far the best argument for Courtney is that she only plays 25 percent of the snaps. Hilarious!

I'm sure on some planet your style is quite impressive, problem is, this is Earth.

You've used and abused no one dipstick. You've ammused and entertained a few with your incessant obsession with Jared Allen. Keep up the good work:thumbsup:

FADERPROOF
11-29-2005, 04:14 PM
You tard. Please point out how my ass is getting kicked in this thread when the best argument for Ms. Brown is her lack of playing time.

Because you'd rather stick your mouth on Allen's dick rather than Courtney's, does not make him better.

Bob's your Information Minister
11-29-2005, 04:14 PM
PS if divide allen's stats by 1/4(25% percent of the time) you get 2 sack and 8 tackles how do those number compare to Browns????

Like that even matters. Allen's good enough that he should be on the field as much as possible. I guess you can't say that about Ms. Courtney.

Bob's your Information Minister
11-29-2005, 04:16 PM
Because you'd rather stick your mouth on Allen's dick rather than Courtney's, does not make him better.

Quite. Allen is better because he makes more plays. Not because of some obsession I have with him.

That seems to be the case with Courtney and Broncos fans though. They will go to any lengths necessary to rationalize the trade.

24champ
11-29-2005, 04:17 PM
Quite. Allen is better because he makes more plays. Not because of some obsession I have with him.

That seems to be the case with Courtney and Broncos fans though. They will go to any lengths necessary to rationalize the trade.
What trade? We signed him you dumbass, bob your incorrect information minister.

TheDave
11-29-2005, 04:17 PM
Quite. Allen is better because he makes more plays. Not because of some obsession I have with him.

That seems to be the case with Courtney and Broncos fans though. They will go to any lengths necessary to rationalize the trade.

we didn't trade for courtney...numbnuts

Bob's your Information Minister
11-29-2005, 04:18 PM
Courtney was a free agent?

FADERPROOF
11-29-2005, 04:18 PM
Quite. Allen is better because he makes more plays. Not because of some obsession I have with him.



Hey, at least you admit that you have an obsession with him.

TheDave
11-29-2005, 04:19 PM
Courtney was a free agent?

yes...any other facts you want to check?

Master___Pain
11-29-2005, 04:19 PM
Courtney was a free agent?

****ing duh

Bob's your Information Minister
11-29-2005, 04:19 PM
My mistake then. Still doesn't change the fact that he's pretty average.

elsid13
11-29-2005, 04:21 PM
Like that even matters. Allen's good enough that he should be on the field as much as possible. I guess you can't say that about Ms. Courtney.

Brown is part of defense rotation that allows them all to perform at high level all year, keep them healthy and have keep the players fresh during a game, Denver can do that because quality depth on the line. Something KC doesn't have. Your total lack of football knowledge or management of personnel is beyond imagination.

Since you wanted to compare players by numbers I thought we should normalize the issue, so we could compare apples to apples.

TheDave
11-29-2005, 04:21 PM
My mistake then. Still doesn't change the fact that he's pretty average.

and getting paid like it... whats your point?

24champ
11-29-2005, 04:23 PM
My mistake then. Still doesn't change the fact that he's pretty average.
Yeah and hes contributing to a team with a 9-2 record. Jared Allen helped the chiefs to what record so far?

Bob's your Information Minister
11-29-2005, 04:25 PM
Again, if Courtney was on Allen's level, they wouldn't keep him off the field 75 percent of the time.

That's just freaking ridiculous.

However, I think I HAVE found an area where Courtney Brown beats Jared Allen: neck circumference:

http://www.denverbroncos.com/resources/custom/Team/brown_courtney_mug.jpghttp://www.chiefsfanclub.com/image/chiefspics/jared_allen.jpg

Well done, Courtney!

Bob's your Information Minister
11-29-2005, 04:26 PM
Yeah and hes contributing to a team with a 9-2 record. Jared Allen helped the chiefs to what record so far?

Why does that even matter? Jeb Putzier has contributed to your 9-2 record, but that doesn't make him better than Tony Gonzalez.

TheDave
11-29-2005, 04:26 PM
since you seem to be on Jareds' jock soo much i guess you feel he is your best D-Lineman... Apples to apples... how do you think he stands up to Trevor Pryce?

elsid13
11-29-2005, 04:28 PM
since you seem to be on Jared jock soo much i guess you feel he is your best D-Lineman... Apples to apples... how do you think he stands up to Trevor Pryce?


excellent question

Bob's your Information Minister
11-29-2005, 04:31 PM
since you seem to be on Jareds' jock soo much i guess you feel he is your best D-Lineman... Apples to apples... how do you think he stands up to Trevor Pryce?

Pryce commands alot more double teams than Allen. Clearly if he was left one-on-one all the time he'd have similar numbers.

TheDave
11-29-2005, 04:31 PM
Pryce commands alot more double teams than Allen. Clearly if he was left one-on-one all the time he'd have similar numbers.

so in your opinion Pryce is better?

24champ
11-29-2005, 04:33 PM
Why does that even matter? Jeb Putzier has contributed to your 9-2 record, but that doesn't make him better than Tony Gonzalez.
No again my point is that all the players together on the Broncos are better than the Chiefs, you can nitpick stats all you like but at the end of the Day your still 7-4 and outside of the playoff picture. We can use Peyton Manning as an example here it seems like everyone forgot he broke the passing TD record last year? Why? He didnt carry his team to the Super Bowl and it really doesnt matter does it?. See no one gives a crap about stats if it doesnt get your team anywhere.

Bob's your Information Minister
11-29-2005, 04:35 PM
so in your opinion Pryce is better?

Yes. Pryce can bring pressure from the middle more effectively than Allen. And he's also a better run stopper.

Bob's your Information Minister
11-29-2005, 04:36 PM
No again my point is that all the players together on the Broncos are better than the Chiefs, you can nitpick stats all you like but at the end of the Day your still 7-4 and outside of the playoff picture. We can use Peyton Manning as an example here it seems like everyone forgot he broke the passing TD record last year? Why? He didnt carry his team to the Super Bowl and it really doesnt matter does it?. See no one gives a crap about stats if it doesnt get your team anywhere.

You are correct. However, once again you have MISSED THE POINT. This thread is not about Denver and Kansas City as teams.

broncosteven
11-29-2005, 04:43 PM
Courtney was a free agent?


Don't you remember Gibbs flying Brown in on Snyders plane trying to sign him?

TheDave
11-29-2005, 04:44 PM
Yes. Pryce can bring pressure from the middle more effectively than Allen. And he's also a better run stopper.

Since the guy with the broken back last year is better than your new rookie sensation maybe you could find something better to debate. like ...hmmm... maybe ... hmmm... how is Jared and company going to stop our run game? Then once you figure that out try and do it while keeping someone at home to stop the bootleg. Once you have that figured out now you need to do the above while still getting enough of a pass rush to keep Rod from having a career day. Finally when you are done with that go ahead and email it to Goonther, 'cause we know he has no idea how to do it.

And why is that... because you don't have enough talent to stop us... Word to the wise, stay on Jareds jock he's all you've got.

Bob's your Information Minister
11-29-2005, 04:44 PM
Don't you remember Gibbs flying Brown in on Snyders plane trying to sign him?

No, I generally don't have much recall for how FAs got where.

Bob's your Information Minister
11-29-2005, 04:46 PM
How is Jared and company going to stop our run game? Then once you figure that out try and do it while keeping someone at home to stop the bootleg. Once you have that figured out now you need to do the above while still getting enough of a pass rush to keep Rod from having a career day. Finally when you are done with that go ahead and email it to Goonther, 'cause we know he has no idea how to do it.

We seemed to do a well enough job of it last year.

The only thing on your offense that worries me is Tatum Bell.

TheDave
11-29-2005, 04:46 PM
We seemed to do a well enough job of it last year.

The only thing on your offense that worries me is Tatum Bell.

psst... this isn't last year

24champ
11-29-2005, 04:47 PM
We seemed to do a well enough job of it last year.

The only thing on your offense that worries me is Tatum Bell.
You can cling on to last year all you want, its all you have.

Bob's your Information Minister
11-29-2005, 04:51 PM
You can cling on to last year all you want, its all you have.

By the way, chump, I don't want to see you registering another account after KC spanks that ass on Sunday.

redrage
11-29-2005, 04:57 PM
This just in, this just in.

Mike Anderson is clearly a better RB than LaDanian Tomlinson since Mike Anderson has helped Denver to a 9-2 record and LT has only managed a 7-4 record in San Diego.

Byron Leftwich and Jake Plummer really are better players than 2-time Super Bowl MVP Tom Brady since their teams are 8-3 and 9-2 collectively and the Patriots are sqaundering at 6-5.

Seriously people, I know this is a Broncos board and many of you would rather eat nails than agree with Bob on anything, but at the moment Jared Allen has been one of the best DE's in the game and Brown has been average at best this season, especially with the talent he supposed to have had all these seasons he's been in the league.

24champ
11-29-2005, 04:57 PM
By the way, chump, I don't want to see you registering another account after KC spanks that ass on Sunday.
THERES YOUR PREDICTION FOLKS! KC is doomed.!Booya! Thanks boob.

Bob's your Information Minister
11-29-2005, 05:01 PM
This just in, this just in.

Mike Anderson is clearly a better RB than LaDanian Tomlinson since Mike Anderson has helped Denver to a 9-2 record and LT has only managed a 7-4 record in San Diego.

Byron Leftwich and Jake Plummer really are better players than 2-time Super Bowl MVP Tom Brady since their teams are 8-3 and 9-2 collectively and the Patriots are sqaundering at 6-5.

Seriously people, I know this is a Broncos board and many of you would rather eat nails than agree with Bob on anything, but at the moment Jared Allen has been one of the best DE's in the game and Brown has been average at best this season, especially with the talent he supposed to have had all these seasons he's been in the league.

He's a Denver Bronco. No Chief could possibly be better.

rbackfactory80
11-29-2005, 05:39 PM
OK, so why is Courtney better than Allen?


I dont even care whose stats are better, all I know is I could not even root for that dumbass bitch if he were on our team. I hate him more then any Chief and am glad we have Courtney, a guy who knows how to handle his business. Him and hicks might be the two stupidest mother ****ers ever to play the game. Don't forget Kennison!!!

RINGLEADER
11-29-2005, 06:06 PM
Brown is better.

Allen wouldnt start in Denver, would barely get rotated in.


I agree. He wouldn't start in Denver. He'd be let go to put up big numbers on some other team like Deltha O'Neal, Bertrand Berry and the rest of Shanny's genius personnel moves have done...

Fact is that Allen would be working on his second season with double-digit sacks if Vermeil wasn't such a genius himself when it comes to evaluating defensive players...

Rausch
11-29-2005, 06:07 PM
I dont even care whose stats are better, all I know is I could not even root for that dumbass b**** if he were on our team. I hate him more then any Chief

Really?

Why's that?...

grandllama
11-29-2005, 06:35 PM
Really?

Why's that?...

eh, they're just waiting until Jared hits the appropriate level of age, injury, and washedup-ness so they can go all Neil Smith & Dale Carter on his ass...

elsid13
11-29-2005, 06:38 PM
eh, they're just waiting until Jared hits the appropriate level of age, injury, and washedup-ness so they can go all Neil Smith & Dale Carter on his ass...
he holding up two fingers for a reason, can you guess it???

http://slam.canoe.ca/Images99SuperBowl/bowl24.jpg

Pat Bowlen
11-29-2005, 10:21 PM
I just found this thread, and I'm embarrassed.

sirhcyennek81
11-29-2005, 10:54 PM
I dont argue players. Allen is a good fit for what KC does. But he overruns plays, and doesnt follow the ball, he follows the players and gets caught up in movement. KC will have problems with denver this week, and i doubt KC wins. 10 days to prepare for this game, come on now.

SportinOne
11-30-2005, 10:38 AM
This is just amazing. I can't read past page 2. Bob epitomizes all that is both wrong and repulsive about chiefs fans.

First and foremost, he's stupider than SHlT.

Second, he's entranced by stats. If his number is bigger than your number, your player is automatically inferior.

Third, when he THINKS he has an argument that he is winning, he won't move off of it even though there is a big chance that he has not fully understood what the other persons argument was in the first place. And when he realizes that, he just blurts out something like "Allen>Brown"

The funniest thing about all of this is his fellow Chiefs fans who are buying into all of this. They actually think he is "dominating us". Try to picture these guys reading Bob's quotes and nodding their heads in agreement.. its hilarious.. i don't think i could put that scene into words.

It makes for great entertainment but i feel bad for these people.

Hey Bob, who's TEAM is better and why?

SportinOne
11-30-2005, 10:45 AM
:captain:

I agree. He wouldn't start in Denver. He'd be let go to put up big numbers on some other team like Deltha O'Neal, Bertrand Berry and the rest of Shanny's genius personnel moves have done...

Fact is that Allen would be working on his second season with double-digit sacks if Vermeil wasn't such a genius himself when it comes to evaluating defensive players...

Hilarious!

And did this just start last year when they picked up Allen, and then stop right afterwards?

So picking up Rod Smith must make Shanahan a WR genius since he was undrafted... Nevermind the work Rod did to get to the top. Shanahan is a WR Genius.. add that to Offensive Line genius, and RB genius, and hell he took a horrible QB from Arizona and made him into a guy who is getting MVP consideration.. So despite Griese, and Brister, and Frerotte, he's also a QB genius. Wait wait wait.. CB genius as well since he picked 2 great corners in the 3rd round.

bendog
11-30-2005, 12:03 PM
This is just amazing. I can't read past page 2. Bob epitomizes all that is both wrong and repulsive about chiefs fans.

First and foremost, he's stupider than SHlT.

Second, he's entranced by stats. If his number is bigger than your number, your player is automatically inferior.

Third, when he THINKS he has an argument that he is winning, he won't move off of it even though there is a big chance that he has not fully understood what the other persons argument was in the first place. And when he realizes that, he just blurts out something like "Allen>Brown"

The funniest thing about all of this is his fellow Chiefs fans who are buying into all of this. They actually think he is "dominating us". Try to picture these guys reading Bob's quotes and nodding their heads in agreement.. its hilarious.. i don't think i could put that scene into words.

It makes for great entertainment but i feel bad for these people.

Hey Bob, who's TEAM is better and why?

word, but I wouldn't ask boob any questions aside from whether his daddy has been id'd by paternity testing.

arashf
11-30-2005, 03:42 PM
Bobo you sure spend a lot of time making fun of the manhood of others, a psychologist might think you personnel masculine issues

PS if divide allen's stats by 1/4(25% percent of the time) you get 2 sack and 8 tackles how do those number compare to Browns????

Hmmm, actually, I think 8 divided by 1/4 is 32, but boob is the dumb one, right? =p

elsid13
11-30-2005, 03:49 PM
Hmmm, actually, I think 8 divided by 1/4 is 32, but boob is the dumb one, right? =p

If you where attempt to get me angry or excited, you failed. But then again being a chief fan you might be use to failure :d Welcome to the Mane

JCMElway
11-30-2005, 04:03 PM
So, if the Broncs win, how long is Bob banned for?

I can harldy wait.

arashf
11-30-2005, 04:35 PM
If you where attempt to get me angry or excited, you failed. But then again being a chief fan you might be use to failure :d Welcome to the Mane

Mmmm, not quite. I just found your response comical and worth pointing out. And, really, I'm not sure what failure you're referring to considering you don't know me. I don't take my team's failure personally, I'm just an observer of the game. =p

elsid13
11-30-2005, 04:37 PM
Mmmm, not quite. I just found your response comical and worth pointing out. And, really, I'm not sure what failure you're referring to considering you don't know me. I don't take my team's failure personally, I'm just an observer of the game. =p


I aplogize if I misunderstood your post. To many trolls this week. Welcome to the mane.

arashf
11-30-2005, 04:41 PM
I aplogize if I misunderstood your post. To many trolls this week. Welcome to the mane.

Hahah, no problem. Don't worry, I'm a civil, level-headed fan for the most part. Good luck Sunday, should be an exciting game.

elsid13
11-30-2005, 04:44 PM
Hahah, no problem. Don't worry, I'm a civil, level-headed fan for the most part. Good luck Sunday, should be an exciting game.


Then you do fine here, just stay away for Bob/GoCheifs.

Bob's your Information Minister
11-30-2005, 06:15 PM
Hey Bob, who's TEAM is better and why?

Broncos > Chiefs

Bob's your Information Minister
11-30-2005, 06:15 PM
So, if the Broncs win, how long is Bob banned for?

I can harldy wait.
A year.

If KC wins I rid your forum of that tool 24champbailey for a year.

I'm actually pretty disappointed I made this bet, because now I don't get to run an avatar bet. I'll just to have to display the work on my own account inside of someone else's.

ludo21
11-30-2005, 06:33 PM
A year.

If KC wins I rid your forum of that tool 24champbailey for a year.

I'm actually pretty disappointed I made this bet, because now I don't get to run an avatar bet. I'll just to have to display the work on my own account inside of someone else's.


Till 06?? or gone till Dec. 06?

Kinda dumb bet by 24 considering this is his home, you got your gay Cehfplanet to go back to.:hitself:

Moon§hiner
11-30-2005, 06:54 PM
Stop feeding Bob...he is an outcast on the Planet, but when he can get a win over here, they all bow down on their knees and give him a knob job...he is addicted and he won't stop until we stop feeding him.

joesomebody
11-30-2005, 07:05 PM
Quite. Allen is better because he makes more plays. Not because of some obsession I have with him.

That seems to be the case with Courtney and Broncos fans though. They will go to any lengths necessary to rationalize the trade.
No surprise, look at when they traded for Bailey...

Bob's your Information Minister
11-30-2005, 07:08 PM
Till 06?? or gone till Dec. 06?

Kinda dumb bet by 24 considering this is his home, you got your gay Cehfplanet to go back to.:hitself:

Dec. 06.

I've also told him I don't expect to see him register another account. I certainly won't be.

joesomebody
11-30-2005, 07:10 PM
he holding up two fingers for a reason, can you guess it???

http://slam.canoe.ca/Images99SuperBowl/bowl24.jpgSecond season in a row that he took under the table money and greased up his uniform?

elsid13
11-30-2005, 07:16 PM
Second season in a row that he took under the table money and greased up his uniform?


So when the Chefs move to LA will you still cheer for them or switch your love over to the Rams??

Must have been pure misery to see Smith get his rings with Denver. ;D

DomCasual
11-30-2005, 07:19 PM
Second season in a row that he took under the table money and greased up his uniform?
Such sour grapes!

joesomebody
11-30-2005, 07:23 PM
So when the Chefs move to LA will you still cheer for them or switch your love over to the Rams??

Must have been pure misery to see Smith get his rings with Denver. ;D
No I'd probably hang myself in the garage from the same rafter that my camero engine is currently hanging if the Chiefs moved.

And yeah... pure misery. And yeah, sour grapes... but go to hell all of you _i_O_i_

Florida_Bronco
11-30-2005, 07:24 PM
Dec. 06.

I've also told him I don't expect to see him register another account. I certainly won't be.

Bob,

When did the bet turn into a year? Last I saw, it was a week?

elsid13
11-30-2005, 07:25 PM
No I'd probably hang myself in the garage from the same rafter that my camero engine is currently hanging if the Chiefs moved.



Well unlike 95% of chef fans you actual have plan, hope your successful :D




(on side note please note this is a jest only)

Florida_Bronco
11-30-2005, 07:26 PM
but go to hell all of you _i_O_i_

Guess we'll see you on Chiefs planet then! :D

Bob's your Information Minister
11-30-2005, 07:32 PM
Bob,

When did the bet turn into a year? Last I saw, it was a week?

Um, when it was proposed?

Bob's your Information Minister
11-30-2005, 07:33 PM
Sorry, I guess it's the rest of the year, not an entire year.

Straight up bet, Loser gets banned for the rest of the year. Meaning you cant post until 2006. Boob you want to get rid of me heres your chance.


Perhaps 24 can confirm.

Florida_Bronco
11-30-2005, 07:34 PM
Um, when it was proposed?

Must have missed that.

Florida_Bronco
11-30-2005, 07:36 PM
Sorry, I guess it's the rest of the year, not an entire year.




Perhaps 24 can confirm.

Ohhhhhhh, OK...that seems right. I remember kinda watching that thread when the bet went up, didn't remember a whole year long ban.

Moon§hiner
11-30-2005, 08:54 PM
Bob obviously went to the Iowanian Skool of Sped Riddin...lol

JCMElway
11-30-2005, 09:04 PM
Sorry, I guess it's the rest of the year, not an entire year.
Perhaps 24 can confirm.

So the bets only for a month? That bet's pretty weak now. What a gyp!

Bob's your Information Minister
11-30-2005, 09:15 PM
So the bets only for a month? That bet's pretty weak now. What a gyp!

Pretty much. I'd definitely consider 12 months if 24champbailey has the balls.

BMF Bronco
11-30-2005, 09:32 PM
Pretty much. I'd definitely consider 12 months if 24champbailey has the balls.
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