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Man-Goblin
11-16-2005, 01:49 PM
In my opinion, the only way they're gonna get one.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2226254

Hotrod
11-16-2005, 01:55 PM
They still wont get invited to the game Ha!

GreatBronco16
11-16-2005, 01:56 PM
You think they can get the money to do it? That's a lot of money for renovations and upgrades.

bronco militia
11-16-2005, 01:56 PM
KANSAS CITY, Mo. -- NFL owners voted Wednesday to tentatively award Kansas City a Super Bowl, largely as a tribute to owner Lamar Hunt, who gave the game its name.

There's one giant string attached: improvements to Arrowhead Stadium, including a rolling roof to keep out the February cold. The team estimates the cost of the roof alone at $100 million to $200 million -- and that's not counting $300 million or so the Chiefs say they need in stadium upgrades.

The approval is for a 10-year window, starting in 2011, but Hunt said the most likely prospects would be for the 49th or 51st Super Bowl, in 2014 or 2016.

Meck77
11-16-2005, 01:57 PM
A dome in KC. Let em have it. What a joke.

Bob's your Information Minister
11-16-2005, 01:59 PM
Well, Denver sure won't be hosting one anytime soon. If ever. :laugh:

BRONCCRUSHFAN
11-16-2005, 02:00 PM
This is exactly why I am pissed that the former Mayor of Denver (speaking of village idiots), was adamently against putting a roof on Invesco. Yes, it would have cost an additional 140 million to build, but damn a Super Bowl would have brought in much more revenue to the city as well as the Broncos. His arguement was, "well what if the roof freezes when open or shut?" Hello.. Skydome in Toronto... Retractable roof.... Never had a problem freezing yet....
What a chowderhead, and now Denver has to endure that the mullets may host a Super Bowl. I guess I can take some solice in knowing that the Queefs will never get there, through their play.

Bob's your Information Minister
11-16-2005, 02:06 PM
http://www.kcchiefs.com/media/images/52787CCF82F04D998DC2029FE7C1B157.JPG?0.64107592064 111

GreatBronco16
11-16-2005, 02:07 PM
I would bet Denver plays in the first SB in KC.

What a slap in the face that would be.

missingnumber7
11-16-2005, 02:08 PM
They can host all they want...it'll be the closest they'll get to the trophy.

bronco militia
11-16-2005, 02:09 PM
http://www.kcchiefs.com/media/images/52787CCF82F04D998DC2029FE7C1B157.JPG?0.64107592064 111

is that a "rolling" roof? (see espn article)

Hotrod
11-16-2005, 02:09 PM
My first thought was this is awesome. Now the chefs will become like a typical dome team that cant win in December or on the road. You know the kind of teams that dont make it to the Superbowl. Then I remembered the chefs are already that kind of team Ha!

Meck77
11-16-2005, 02:11 PM
I'd rather not see a superbowl in Denver if it meant putting a roof on our stadium even if it's retractable. That would have changed the entire layout of our new stadium. I think they did a good job of keeping alot of the characteristics of the old stadium. Personally I love the cold weather. I sat thru the Colts game last year and their dome sucks. Feels like arena ball in a dome.

The reality is we usually have sunny days on superbowl sundays here. So I remember? It might be chilly out but we Denver usually has sunny weather even in the winter.

KC a dome team...I love it.

missingnumber7
11-16-2005, 02:12 PM
I'd rather not see a superbowl in Denver if it meant putting a roof on our stadium even if it's retractable. That would have changed the entire layout of our new stadium. I think they did a good job of keeping alot of the characteristics of the old stadium.

The reality is we usually have sunny days on superbowl sundays here. So I remember? It might be chilly out but we Denver usually has sunny weather even in the winter.

KC a dome team...I love it.
I wanna see the NFL grow some balls and play the superbowl in say Buffalo

Dukes
11-16-2005, 02:12 PM
In the words of Shannon Sharpe "The Super Bowl is at their house and they aint even invited" Hilarious!

Crushaholic
11-16-2005, 02:13 PM
The Chiefs have a hard enough time getting money for typical renovations. I don't see this retractable roof happening...ever...

GreatBronco16
11-16-2005, 02:14 PM
I'd rather not see a superbowl in Denver if it meant putting a roof on our stadium even if it's retractable. That would have changed the entire layout of our new stadium. I think they did a good job of keeping alot of the characteristics of the old stadium. Personally I love the cold weather. I sat thru the Colts game last year and their dome sucks. Feels like arena ball in a dome.

The reality is we usually have sunny days on superbowl sundays here. So I remember? It might be chilly out but we Denver usually has sunny weather even in the winter.

KC a dome team...I love it.

Doesn't Denver have the most sunny days out of the year? If that is true, I wonder why the NFL doesn't just give it a try in say Denver.

Clockwork Orange
11-16-2005, 02:14 PM
If they can have it in an armpit like Jacksonville, I guess they can go the full nine and have it in an asshole like KC.

Bronx33
11-16-2005, 02:15 PM
A dome in KC. Let em have it. What a joke.

What! a load of cr@p! another candy a** team needs a roof to play a game designed to be played in the elements!

Clockwork Orange
11-16-2005, 02:15 PM
Well, Denver sure won't be hosting one anytime soon. If ever. :laugh:

Denver isn't the team being mentioned as a candidate to move to Los Angeles, KC is. :laugh:

Dukes
11-16-2005, 02:16 PM
Doesn't Denver have the most sunny days out of the year? If that is true, I wonder why the NFL doesn't just give it a try in say Denver.

Most people are under the impression that Denver gets snow 300 days a year from some reason. ::)

GreatBronco16
11-16-2005, 02:17 PM
Denver isn't the team being mentioned as a candidate to move to Los Angeles, KC is. :laugh:

Bitched Slapped again.

Bronx33
11-16-2005, 02:18 PM
http://www.kcchiefs.com/media/images/52787CCF82F04D998DC2029FE7C1B157.JPG?0.64107592064 111

Welcome to TeePee head stadium (where you can take your jacket off in the middle of winter)....

BRONCCRUSHFAN
11-16-2005, 02:18 PM
Doesn't Denver have the most sunny days out of the year? If that is true, I wonder why the NFL doesn't just give it a try in say Denver.
The NFL has said repeatedly that they would love for Denver to host a SB, but the unpredictability of the weather in late Jan early Feb makes it unpractical. That's okay, I prefer people to think we get tons of snow here, too many people here now as it is.

Bob's your Information Minister
11-16-2005, 02:20 PM
This won't make KC a dome team. They will only use the dome for the Super Bowl and baseball I am betting. And in the offseason of course.

GreatBronco16
11-16-2005, 02:22 PM
This won't make KC a dome team. They will only use the dome for the Super Bowl and baseball I am betting. And in the offseason of course.


Yeah, they will just let KC play out in the Rain and/or snow on their home games instead.

You fvcking moron.

Crushaholic
11-16-2005, 02:24 PM
This won't make KC a dome team. They will only use the dome for the Super Bowl and baseball I am betting. And in the offseason of course.

You're on to something there. A temporary dome might attract a number of big concerts to KC and Narrowhead if the act and the fans can stay cool in the summer...

BroncoBuff
11-16-2005, 02:24 PM
I would bet Denver plays in the first SB in KC.


LOL

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Have you guys heard about the new Cardinals stadium opening next year?

It has a retractable roof . . . but it also has a retractable field. They keep the grass outside! The entire grass field moves out one end of the building, and slides back in - very wierd: http://www.azcardinals.com/stadium/

Meck77
11-16-2005, 02:25 PM
Addition of a dome means KC will be a dome team Bob I hate to tell you. Why spend a few hundred extra million and not use it when the weather is cold/raining/snowing etc.

KC Dome is just one more step in the pussification of the NFL.

Meck77
11-16-2005, 02:27 PM
LOL

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Have you guys heard about the new Cardinals stadium opening next year?

It has a retractable roof . . . but it also has a retractable field. They keep the grass outside! The entire grass field moves out one end of the building, and slides back in - very wierd: http://www.azcardinals.com/stadium/


Just look at the pic of the AZ dome Bob. Even if the roof is slid open it's still a dome. It's a field with a sunroof. Pathetic. However I agree with the dome in Az. It's rediculous for people to watch a football game when it's 110 degrees and for players to play in those conditions.

broncosteven
11-16-2005, 02:30 PM
I hate domes & Prefer that The SB be played Outside on NATURAL GRASS in MUDD if possible! I hate watching a game indoors under florecent lights like at NO. The Super dome had the worst lighting. I want guys makeing catches & coming up with a face full of grass in their helmets! Grass stains on the jerseys! Domes Blow. I do like that at Ford field they did try to bring in some ambient light but don't think it was enough. I really like the New Mile High & am glad we didn't get no sticking dome.

Bob's your Information Minister
11-16-2005, 02:31 PM
If KC becomes a dome team it will suck, I agree. I just don't see a guy like Lamar Hunt wanting that. Football is meant to be played outside.

Dukes
11-16-2005, 02:32 PM
Have you guys heard about the new Cardinals stadium opening next year?

It has a retractable roof . . . but it also has a retractable field. They keep the grass outside! The entire grass field moves out one end of the building, and slides back in - very wierd: http://www.azcardinals.com/stadium/

If you go in the Stadium design link there is a picture at the bottom that looks interesting. To me is seems like the actual playing surface can be taken in and out of the "dome". Anyone else see this or are my eyes just playing tricks on me?

BRONCCRUSHFAN
11-16-2005, 02:33 PM
This won't make KC a dome team. They will only use the dome for the Super Bowl and baseball I am betting. And in the offseason of course.

Oh yeah I'm sure the mullets will be all for spending 500 million for a new stadium, and then not use it during the regular NFL season. I'm sure that the Chiefs will say "Nah, we don't need all those revenues that that new Stadium will generate." Baseball. Hate to break it to you boob, but the Royals are worse than the Rockies, and that's not saying much. They can't even get 15,000 in Royals stadium, except when the Yankees and Sox (both Bo and Chi) come to town. You expect them to be moved into a 75,000+ seat complex, because why? The Planet called, they want their idiot back.

broncosteven
11-16-2005, 02:34 PM
I wanna see the NFL grow some balls and play the superbowl in say Buffalo


They should let the team with the best record host PERIOD! Who cares what the temp is real football fans will go not just rich corporate types that won't freeze through a -10 below game in Fudge Packer land (not that they will be back to SB for a long long time...) maybe then the real fans will be able to actually get tickets.

bronco_diesel
11-16-2005, 02:35 PM
The NFL has said repeatedly that they would love for Denver to host a SB, but the unpredictability of the weather in late Jan early Feb makes it unpractical. That's okay, I prefer people to think we get tons of snow here, too many people here now as it is.

i agree, too many people here. having a superbowl would only make that worse. i personally would rather not see all the hoopla here for a weekend. the nba allstar weekend was bad enough...we don't need it.

BRONCCRUSHFAN
11-16-2005, 02:35 PM
If you go in the Stadium design link there is a picture at the bottom that looks interesting. To me is seems like the actual playing surface can be taken in and out of the "dome". Anyone else see this or are my eyes just playing tricks on me?
Yeah. the playing surface is retractable. I'm like Meck, I think that playing in 110 Arizona heat is rediculous.

Billy Clyde Puckett
11-16-2005, 02:37 PM
This is just Hunts way of blackmailing the fans and taxpayers to build him a new stadium.

broncosteven
11-16-2005, 02:38 PM
http://www.kcchiefs.com/media/images/52787CCF82F04D998DC2029FE7C1B157.JPG?0.64107592064 111


They need to add wheels to it to make it a Moblie home & add Flo-bee Kiosk's so the Camaro lover Mullet heads can tighten up the front of their Mullet while at the game! SWEET!

Bob's your Information Minister
11-16-2005, 02:38 PM
I'm not even a Royals fan.

Bob's your Information Minister
11-16-2005, 02:39 PM
This is just Hunts way of blackmailing the fans and taxpayers to build him a new stadium.

Show some respect. The Broncos exist because of Lamar Hunt.

Clockwork Orange
11-16-2005, 02:40 PM
Show some respect. The Broncos exist because of Lamar Hunt.

The guy who said he wants to piss on John Elway's grave is telling people to show some respect.

I've officially heard it all.

bronco militia
11-16-2005, 02:42 PM
If heard several times that Arrowhead was built with the retractable roof in mind...

Bowlen wanted one too, but he wanted the city to pay for it.

Clockwork Orange
11-16-2005, 02:42 PM
If heard several times that Arrowhead was built with the retractable roof in mind...

Bowlen wanted one too, but he wanted the city to pay for it.

The thought of the Broncos being a dome team sickens me.

Dagmar
11-16-2005, 02:43 PM
Most people are under the impression that Denver gets snow 300 days a year from some reason. ::)

Boulder is about half an hour from denver and we get 300 days of SUN a year.

bronco militia
11-16-2005, 02:44 PM
The thought of the Broncos being a dome team sickens me.

do you consider the Texans a dome team?

Clockwork Orange
11-16-2005, 02:45 PM
do you consider the Texans a dome team?

Pretty much. But I'm not a Texans fan so it doesn't effect me one way or another.

DomCasual
11-16-2005, 02:45 PM
Sweet - a vacation in Kansas City during Super Bowl week. And here we thought it couldn't ever get worse than Detroit.

epicSocialism4tw
11-16-2005, 02:46 PM
I'd rather not see a superbowl in Denver if it meant putting a roof on our stadium even if it's retractable. That would have changed the entire layout of our new stadium. I think they did a good job of keeping alot of the characteristics of the old stadium. Personally I love the cold weather. I sat thru the Colts game last year and their dome sucks. Feels like arena ball in a dome.

The reality is we usually have sunny days on superbowl sundays here. So I remember? It might be chilly out but we Denver usually has sunny weather even in the winter.

KC a dome team...I love it.

Cold weather is part of football. It is part of the atmosphere to me. I get sentimental when the weather gets cold and I smell winter in the air. It brings memories of Elway driving down the field and playing football at the local schoolyard with your neighborhood friends.

Elway 4 Life
11-16-2005, 02:48 PM
I wanna see the NFL grow some balls and play the superbowl in say Buffalo

That would be pretty funny. Unfortunately the big corporations that buy tons of tickets each year would never go anywhere that wasnt above 65 degrees.

Meck77
11-16-2005, 02:55 PM
The guy who said he wants to piss on John Elway's grave is telling people to show some respect.

I've officially heard it all.


Damn......that's out of control even for Bob. I think you owe the Omane an apology for that one. :pity:

Now that's straight up disrespect right there.

OrangeShadow
11-16-2005, 02:59 PM
that new cards stadium is SICK

SNR_Chief
11-16-2005, 03:22 PM
Damn......that's out of control even for Bob. I think you owe the Omane an apology for that one. :pity:

Now that's straight up disrespect right there.Omaners disrespect Lamar Hunt, Bob disrespects Elway, Omaners disrespect Derrick Thomas... it's a vicious cycle. Let's just say everyone is a good guy and leave it at that

Meck77
11-16-2005, 03:26 PM
Omaners disrespect Lamar Hunt, Bob disrespects Elway, Omaners disrespect Derrick Thomas... it's a vicious cycle. Let's just say everyone is a good guy and leave it at that

I wouldn't equate Lamar hunt using a blackmail technique to get what he wants the same as pissing on Elways grave. Let's face it Hunt is a business man he's got to leverage whatever he can to get the voters to approve it since the taxpayers allready rejected his plans once.

BroncoBuff
11-16-2005, 03:28 PM
If you go in the Stadium design link there is a picture at the bottom that looks interesting. To me is seems like the actual playing surface can be taken in and out of the "dome". Anyone else see this or are my eyes just playing tricks on me?
That's the whole point . . . the field itself slides in and out of the stadium . . . sorta like the East stands at old Mile High Stadium - slide in, slide out.

I guess they want the grass to get some sun . . . but if the ROOF opens, too . . . isn't that redundant? That redundant? Redundant?

GreatBronco16
11-16-2005, 03:35 PM
That would be pretty funny. Unfortunately the big corporations that buy tons of tickets each year would never go anywhere that wasnt above 65 degrees.


Then screw the big Corps. Real fans make the game much, much better.

BroncoMatt
11-16-2005, 03:48 PM
Here is an unpopular opinion, I wish they would have put a dome on the 'phragm. We aren't exactly the best harsh weather team out there. We struggle in rain, snow, etc. We are a dome team without the dome.

broncosteven
11-16-2005, 04:14 PM
Here is an unpopular opinion, I wish they would have put a dome on the 'phragm. We aren't exactly the best harsh weather team out there. We struggle in rain, snow, etc. We are a dome team without the dome.

& we don't have the speed to be a dome team either. I just read an article in the Chicago Trib about "Bear Weather" It appears that the Bears had home field for Washington twice & Frisco Deep in playoffs (not sure if they were all Championship games or not) right after 1985 & lost in "Bear Weather". It is not about the Weather but about how good of a team you have & how well your coaches coach & adjust to the opposition.

Paladin
11-16-2005, 04:18 PM
I was disappointed when the design of New Mile High did not include a dome. Snce I don't live in the Metro area, I wasn't going to have to pay for it, either, but then, I do go to several games a year . I go to more Rockies games, and Coors Field is a great place to see a game, and it is paid for. The actual tax for Mile High was just an extension of the same sales tax. I do not know how much has been paid on Mile High, but I suspect it is also being paid off early. While I understand all the "outdoor" arguments, there are also many "indoor" arguments as well. What is most interesting is that the Rapids willl have their own stadium shortly, and Mile High will be under-used without the lid. Frankly, I would have liked to have seen the dome. The game is played for the fans. The fans should be accomodated. A retractible roof allows for natural grass. I would say bully for KC if it got pulled off.

Frankly, I don't know why the NFL doesn't just use th eRose Bowl exclusively for the SB. that argument has been made, but there are a few cities that just don't want to give up the potential dollars that comes from having the game in their city. Lots of money.

Meck77
11-16-2005, 04:38 PM
We have great weather here! Why would we need a dome. It's unsual that we had two rainy games so far. We usually only have 1 snow game a year. That's it! That is 1 poor weather game out of 10 including pre-season. Heck even at the rate we are going that is only 20% of the games. Hell I've worn shorts to every game thus far and probably will the rest of the year just because of the mojo factor.

A dome would be complete waste of money in Denver.

To each his own I suppose.

RhymesayersDU
11-16-2005, 04:40 PM
Oh man... I was almost about to be really excited that there might be a superbowl with a possibility of some nasty weather to make things really interesting. Boo @ the roof.

24champ
11-16-2005, 05:53 PM
Owners approve Super Bowl for Kansas City -- on one condition
By STEVE BRISENDINE, AP Sports Writer
November 16, 2005

KANSAS CITY, Mo. (AP) -- NFL owners voted Wednesday to tentatively award Kansas City a Super Bowl, largely as a tribute to owner Lamar Hunt, who gave the game its name.

It comes with one giant string attached: improvements to Arrowhead Stadium, including a rolling roof to keep out the February cold. The team estimates the cost of the roof alone at $100 million to $200 million -- and that's not counting $300 million or so the Chiefs say they need in stadium upgrades.

The approval is for a 10-year window, starting in 2011, but Hunt said the most likely prospects would be for the 49th or 51st Super Bowl, after the 2014 or 2016 seasons.

"This is a very happy day, and in some respects a surprising day," he said at a news conference after the second day of the owners' two-day fall meeting adjourned. "This is something our organization has talked about for a number of years."

The team is now in lease negotiations with Jackson County and hopes to have a sales tax issue on the April ballot for Kansas City residents who live in the county. Last year, a bi-state sales tax proposal, for stadium improvements and arts in the area, failed to gain approval.

The Kansas City Royals, whose Kauffman Stadium sits across a parking lot from Arrowhead, would also have benefited from that tax.

The Chiefs, and other backers of stadium renovations, hope the prospect of landing an event with an estimated $400 million economic impact will provide enough reason to vote "yes" this time.

"The tremendous benefit to Kansas City, both in economic terms and prestige, are beyond calculation," Mayor Kay Barnes said in a written statement.

Jack Steadman, the Chiefs' vice chairman, said lease talks were to resume Thursday and that he hoped they would be completed by December. He said the Chiefs would not specify their financial commitment to the project until negotiations were completed.

Hunt, a founding owner in the American Football League, gave the Super Bowl its name after it began simply as a matchup between the AFL and NFL champions.

"This decision is clearly an indication of the tremendous support the Chiefs have had from their fans in this area, and also the role of Lamar Hunt in the creation of the NFL today and the history of professional football," said NFL commissioner Paul Tagliabue.

Only three Super Bowls have been awarded to cold-weather cities. Detroit will host its second Super Bowl in February, and Minneapolis has hosted one.

"I think a one-off is a correct decision," Hunt said. "My request was for one game, in a 10-year window."

A rolling roof, which could be moved to cover either stadium, was part of the original plans for the Truman Sports Complex. It was designed only to keep out the rain, however.

Steadman said the new plan would allow panels to be lowered from the roof, to provide for a heated interior in cold weather.

"This is a new idea for an old concept," he said.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=As7GfeATujYrkr5zCs6np4A5nYcB?slug=ap-nflowners&prov=ap&type=lgns

RhymesayersDU
11-16-2005, 05:57 PM
Holy old news, Batman!

-Slap-
11-16-2005, 05:57 PM
Has anyone pointed out to the NFL that Hunt will be well into his dirt nap by 2016?

RhymesayersDU
11-16-2005, 05:59 PM
Has anyone pointed out to the NFL that Hunt will be well into his dirt nap by 2016?
Not if we cryogenically freeze him and Al Davis.

Kaylore
11-16-2005, 06:03 PM
The league is really trying to get that new stadium passed. I'm betting that the Chiefs are an old school tema that they would like to keep where they are and just renovate a stadium. Several things could happen. The first is the stadium isn't approved and the team moves, the second is that they get a new stadium, but without the retractable roof and so no super bowl and the last is the obvious hosting of the Super Bowl, retractable roof and all.

CBF1
11-16-2005, 06:07 PM
This is the only way that KC will ever be in a "Superbowl"

elsid13
11-16-2005, 06:13 PM
Does that offer transfer to LA when the Chefs move?

Bronco9798
11-16-2005, 06:28 PM
Arrowhead is small with hardly any amenities. You still piss in a horse troth and wait in line forever just to take a piss standing next to a mullet head by the troth. The concessions are primative and again the lines are horrible. If you're in line you get run over by everybody walking thru to get to their seats. You are packed like sardines in the concourses heading to your seats. There is nothing to see at all. You enter, walk thru the concourses and go to your cramped seat. The locals mostly dress from the 70's with outdated clothes, hairstyles, and crooked teeth.

But once you get into your cramped seat sitting next to a 13th generation member of the Hatfields and McCoys families, it's actually a great place to watch a game. Just don't get hungry or venture to the horse troth and you'll do fine.

Bob's your Information Minister
11-16-2005, 06:36 PM
Does that offer transfer to LA when the Chefs move?

The Chiefs aren't going anywhere. They might go to Kansas City, Kansas but I doubt it.

Hogan11
11-16-2005, 06:47 PM
IMO, this is no big deal at all.

Bronco LB 59
11-16-2005, 06:54 PM
I am still shocked a Vail-Aspen-Beaver Creek-Breckenridge Super Bowl doesn't entice the NFL owners. It would be by far the best extra curricular Super Bowl.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
11-16-2005, 07:09 PM
My first thought was this is awesome. Now the chefs will become like a typical dome team that cant win in December or on the road. You know the kind of teams that dont make it to the Superbowl. Then I remembered the chefs are already that kind of team Ha!

:giggle: :laugh:

Dukes
11-16-2005, 07:15 PM
Boulder is about half an hour from denver and we get 300 days of SUN a year.

Yes I know that, I've spent almost all my life in Colorado. But In my travels over the past 3 or so years, many people believe Colorado gets Snow 9 months out of the year

footstepsfrom#27
11-16-2005, 08:59 PM
Well, Denver sure won't be hosting one anytime soon. If ever. :laugh:
Why not? If a dull boring town like KC can get one why not Denver? At least there's a winter sports recreation base to attract tourism dollars. What are fans going to do in KC when they aren't at the game? Scarf down barbecue all day and go bowling at night?

We're not talking about a fun town here.

Bob's your Information Minister
11-16-2005, 09:17 PM
Why not? If a dull boring town like KC can get one why not Denver? At least there's a winter sports recreation base to attract tourism dollars. What are fans going to do in KC when they aren't at the game? Scarf down barbecue all day and go bowling at night?

We're not talking about a fun town here.

Bla bla bla...call me when you finally host one. :wave:

I should shut up anyway. If anything this is a pity Super Bowl for Lamar Hunt since he founded the AFL. I don't really care either way. It's kind of cool, but I don't live in KC and wouldn't go to the game if I did.

Clockwork Orange
11-16-2005, 09:20 PM
I should shut up anyway.

:yep:

RedskinBronco
11-16-2005, 10:23 PM
Bla bla bla...call me when you finally host one. :wave:

I should shut up anyway. If anything this is a pity Super Bowl for Lamar Hunt since he founded the AFL. I don't really care either way. It's kind of cool, but I don't live in KC and wouldn't go to the game if I did.

pity from the nfl for the owner of a pitiful team Ha!

Means20
11-16-2005, 10:31 PM
Speaking of pitiful, what is the expiration date on the in-com-plete cheer? Denver has oficially overtaken NY (J-E-T-S Jets Jets Jets) for most annoying cheer.

Bronx33
11-16-2005, 10:33 PM
Speaking of pitiful, what is the expiration date on the in-com-plete cheer? Denver has oficially overtaken NY (J-E-T-S Jets Jets Jets) for most annoying game to watch.

STFU ok the incomplete cheer rocks and iam glad it annoys you.

Dukes
11-16-2005, 10:34 PM
Speaking of pitiful, what is the expiration date on the in-com-plete cheer? Denver has oficially overtaken NY (J-E-T-S Jets Jets Jets) for most annoying cheer.

I may be wrong but i'm pretty sure that cheer has been going on since 96. And I personally like it. That cheer isn't going anywhere

Bronx33
11-16-2005, 10:36 PM
I may be wrong but i'm pretty sure that cheer has been going on since 96. And I personally like it. That cheer isn't going anywhere

It's older than 96....

Dukes
11-16-2005, 10:38 PM
It's older than 96....

I was implying that it's been around since 96 at the latest.

Clockwork Orange
11-16-2005, 10:41 PM
Speaking of pitiful, what is the expiration date on the in-com-plete cheer? Denver has oficially overtaken NY (J-E-T-S Jets Jets Jets) for most annoying cheer.

While we're on the topic of things that are pitiful, let us know when the Bolts manage to get enough of you on the bandwagon to keep you from getting outnumbered in your own stadium by Chokeland fans.

RedskinBronco
11-16-2005, 11:02 PM
While we're on the topic of things that are pitiful, let us know when the Bolts manage to get enough of you on the bandwagon to keep you from getting outnumbered in your own stadium by Chokeland fans.

Let me tell you another thing that is Pitiful... when you can name the QBs of all the chargers winning seasons. Dan Foutes in the early 80s?, Stan Humphries in '94?, and Drew Brees last year.

I think that covers all of SD's winning seasons and therefore the Bandwagon you speak of. :wiggle:

Bronco LB 59
11-16-2005, 11:02 PM
Speaking of pitiful, what is the expiration date on the in-com-plete cheer? Denver has oficially overtaken NY (J-E-T-S Jets Jets Jets) for most annoying cheer.

The IN-COM-PLETE chant embodies everything that is good about a football town like Denver. The Broncos have pride and tradition. Bronco fans bring a college atmosphere to the game. That's 36 straight seasons of consecutive sellouts backing the home team in the Mile High City.

What do Chargers have? Some bad 70s disco song!

RedskinBronco
11-16-2005, 11:06 PM
The IN-COM-PLETE chant embodies everything that is good about a football town like Denver. The Broncos have pride and tradition. Bronco fans bring a college atmosphere to the game. That's 36 straight seasons of consecutive sellouts backing the home team in the Mile High City.

What do Chargers have? Some bad 70s disco song!


It reminds them of the "glory days" LOL...I wonder how many fans they had in the stands back then and I don't mean opposing teams fans.

watermock
11-16-2005, 11:17 PM
Most people are under the impression that Denver gets snow 300 days a year from some reason. ::)

Denver gets 300 sunny days a year. That's a historical fact...it's also a fact Denver is warmer in December than Kansas City by a long shot...there have been some cold and snowy prime time games that give the impression that Denver is somehow nestled deep in the the Rocky Mountains next to Rocky Mountain National Park...

A typical late season tussle is usually temps around 45 to 50 on kickoff and blazing sun...we allready had a huge blizzard/ice storm here in NW Iowa...60 MPH wind, ice and temps in the teens...Beezlebub hasn't been out for three days...he kept crying to get out so I let him out...one step on the glazed ice outside and he made a beeline to his comforter...he hasn't even come close to putting on a winter coat...I can crack the garage door for him, but it was quite funny...his bravado melted faster than this ice will...

Dukes
11-16-2005, 11:20 PM
Denver gets 300 sunny days a year. That's a historical fact...it's also a fact Denver is warmer in December than Kansas City by a long shot...there have been some cold and snowy prime time games that give the impression that Denver is somehow nestled deep in the the Rocky Mountains next to Rocky Mountain National Park...

A typical late season tussle is usually temps around 45 to 50 on kickoff and blazing sun...we allready had a huge blizzard/ice storm here in NW Iowa...60 MPH wind, ice and temps in the teens...Beezlebub hasn't been out for three days...he kept crying to get out so I let him out...one step on the glazed ice outside and he made a beeline to his comforter...he hasn't even come close to putting on a winter coat...I can crack the garage door for him, but it was quite funny...his bravado melted faster than this ice will...

Yes.......I know.........

watermock
11-16-2005, 11:24 PM
While we're on the topic of things that are pitiful, let us know when the Bolts manage to get enough of you on the bandwagon to keep you from getting outnumbered in your own stadium by Chokeland fans.

Or having a defending divisional champ being the only team totally blacked out...STFU...Those cali-turds goof off going to Starbucks trying to act like Friends west coast...

KipCorrington25
11-17-2005, 08:18 AM
The NFL has said repeatedly that they would love for Denver to host a SB, but the unpredictability of the weather in late Jan early Feb makes it unpractical. That's okay, I prefer people to think we get tons of snow here, too many people here now as it is.

I just need one more person to move to Denver so they will buy my G.D. house that I'm trying to sell.

Billy Clyde Puckett
11-17-2005, 08:40 AM
I just need one more person to move to Denver so they will buy my G.D. house that I'm trying to sell.

Sic 'em Meck

Jens1893
11-17-2005, 09:51 AM
That's the whole point . . . the field itself slides in and out of the stadium . . . sorta like the East stands at old Mile High Stadium - slide in, slide out.

I guess they want the grass to get some sun . . . but if the ROOF opens, too . . . isn't that redundant? That redundant? Redundant?

No, it isnīt. Some football stadiums in Europe also have a retractable roof (and one even has the "slide out pitch") and sort of a domed stadium and one of them, Ajax Amsterdam, has to relay the pitch at least 4-5 times a SEASON as the pitch doesnīt get enough sunlight and fresh air.

broncosteven
11-17-2005, 09:54 AM
Speaking of pitiful, what is the expiration date on the in-com-plete cheer? Denver has oficially overtaken NY (J-E-T-S Jets Jets Jets) for most annoying cheer.


Duh Bears have a cheer Or more of a chant that is much more annoyning & stupifying (& worse than my spelling!). At a Time out the announcer says:
"there is a timeout" then pauses & the crowd chants "Where" & the announcer finishes with "On the field"

It got started while Duh Bears where at U of I & is by far the dumbest thing chanted at any Pro stadium surpasing what ever KFC Flo-bee master Mulletheads chant after a first down.

broncosteven
11-17-2005, 09:57 AM
The IN-COM-PLETE chant embodies everything that is good about a football town like Denver. The Broncos have pride and tradition. Bronco fans bring a college atmosphere to the game. That's 36 straight seasons of consecutive sellouts backing the home team in the Mile High City.

What do Chargers have? Some bad 70s disco song!

BTW I liked the fact that the Chargers/Steelers game early this year seemed to be more of a Steeler home game than a Charger home game. Are we actually talking smack with a charger fan here? I didn't know there were any alive!

missingnumber7
11-17-2005, 11:09 AM
Speaking of pitiful, what is the expiration date on the in-com-plete cheer? Denver has oficially overtaken NY (J-E-T-S Jets Jets Jets) for most annoying cheer.
oh...thats sooo gonna be the cheer of the day on new years eve.

Crushaholic
11-17-2005, 11:14 AM
Duh Bears have a cheer Or more of a chant that is much more annoyning & stupifying (& worse than my spelling!). At a Time out the announcer says:
"there is a timeout" then pauses & the crowd chants "Where" & the announcer finishes with "On the field"

LOL Now, THAT would be annoying...

Means20
11-17-2005, 11:26 AM
It reminds them of the "glory days" LOL...I wonder how many fans they had in the stands back then and I don't mean opposing teams fans.
Your right, Denver fans support their team much better than in San Diego. But leave Denver and you'll find San Diego and Denver are very different places. Most people living in SD are not from there, or even Cali for that matter. Also keep in mind that if the NFL were to put a team in, I dunno, Fort Collins and Grand Junction Colorado, you would have the same problem. Another striking difference is that the women shave their legs and don't resemble men. Also, if a glorious past full of superbowls is what drives you as a fan than that must mean you've been a fan since what 1997?

cmh6476
11-17-2005, 11:32 AM
Arrowhead is small with hardly any amenities. You still piss in a horse troth and wait in line forever just to take a piss standing next to a mullet head by the troth. The concessions are primative and again the lines are horrible. If you're in line you get run over by everybody walking thru to get to their seats. You are packed like sardines in the concourses heading to your seats. There is nothing to see at all. You enter, walk thru the concourses and go to your cramped seat. The locals mostly dress from the 70's with outdated clothes, hairstyles, and crooked teeth.

But once you get into your cramped seat sitting next to a 13th generation member of the Hatfields and McCoys families, it's actually a great place to watch a game. Just don't get hungry or venture to the horse troth and you'll do fine.


That's the other part of the upgrades, improving concourses and concessions. Chiefs want to widen all concourses and the entrances and exits, so its quicker to get in and out. They would then put a facade on the outside, so that the councourses would actually be "inside" and the only time you would be outside once you enter is when you get out into the stadium.

I also like this more because of the royals. It'd be sweet to be able to go catch a ballgame when it's raining, and the royals would no longer have to worry about rainouts.

I'm also not sure we'd turn into a dome team, as you guys are saying. The whole purpose of the rotating roof is to lure in a superbowl, nothing less and nothing more. it's not like they'd cover it up consistently, at least I hope they wouldnt.

But this is anything but turning arrowhead into a dome stadium.

Billy Clyde Puckett
11-17-2005, 11:42 AM
Your right, Denver fans support their team much better than in San Diego. But leave Denver and you'll find San Diego and Denver are very different places. Most people living in SD are not from there, or even Cali for that matter. Also keep in mind that if the NFL were to put a team in, I dunno, Fort Collins and Grand Junction Colorado, you would have the same problem. Another striking difference is that the women shave their legs and don't resemble men. Also, if a glorious past full of superbowls is what drives you as a fan than that must mean you've been a fan since what 1997?

And I always thought it was just the Squaw fans that were downright ignorant of reality.

broncosteven
11-17-2005, 02:31 PM
Also, if a glorious past full of superbowls is what drives you as a fan than that must mean you've been a fan since what 1997?


End of 1973 is when I became a Bronco fan. Just how many SB Victories have the Chargers won? Are they not the only team in AFC not to win a SB? & How many trips to SB's did your team make? Sure was nice for TD to win the 1st one in your house!

I think the Chargers won an AFL title right? But if it was before 1967 it was before I was born.

Nice to talk smack with a non KFC or Butt Pirate for a change. Chargers are our only threat this year but Marty, Marty, Marty... & co are still 2 games back.

maven
11-17-2005, 09:00 PM
http://www.kcchiefs.com/news/2005/11/16/kansas_city_awarded_super_bowl/

When I saw the artist rendition of the stadium, I simply laughed. Let's build a tarp over Arrowhead Stadium. Is the National Association of Trailer Parks behind this? Are they going to bronze a 98 Chevy Camero on cinder blocks in front of the main entrance? Talk about laughable.

SoCalBronco
11-17-2005, 09:06 PM
http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showthread.php?t=33486

maven
11-17-2005, 09:07 PM
good point

24champ
11-17-2005, 09:09 PM
Your avatar has a nice rack....shake it baby! shake it!

Atlas
11-17-2005, 09:15 PM
Well, Denver sure won't be hosting one anytime soon. If ever. :laugh:


Hosting a SB you would be correct.

RedskinBronco
11-17-2005, 10:31 PM
Your right, Denver fans support their team much better than in San Diego. But leave Denver and you'll find San Diego and Denver are very different places. Most people living in SD are not from there, or even Cali for that matter. Also keep in mind that if the NFL were to put a team in, I dunno, Fort Collins and Grand Junction Colorado, you would have the same problem. Another striking difference is that the women shave their legs and don't resemble men. Also, if a glorious past full of superbowls is what drives you as a fan than that must mean you've been a fan since what 1997?


First of all, have you been to Denver?

Second, this conversation was about you talking sh!t when you haven't won jack sh!t...not about social factors that affect the Chargers. If you want to talk about that then we can because DC has many people "not from DC" and they still have 90,000 + fans every sunday. It's called tradition. Denver is the same way. Face it, the chargers haven't done jack to get people in the stands. It's not about people not being from San Diego.

Third, do you know anything about your team Means? For instance, what is the first name of this "Means" ? It's ok you can look it up. I've been a fan of the broncos since I was cognizant of the game ( around 1983). In fact, Im close friends with a once Backup QB for the Broncos, and yea he was there before Elway. Im good friends with his son. So I know a lot of sh!t about the Broncos and believe me you will go another 50 years before you accumulate what the Broncos do in a 10 yr span.

It's not about being a fan of a "glorious team", it's about STFU if you got nothing to back it up or you can show up and talk some sh!t, but you will get grilled ...just like you are in this thread.

ScotchTanShan
11-18-2005, 01:56 AM
Just some info for everyone. The deal is already stipulated that the Chiefs would not be forced to put the roof on for any game except the Superbowl. This was a clause specifically dealt with in light of the World Series. KC will not become a dome team, and anyone that know a thing about that city knows ther is no way it could happen with a sliding roof. It would probably be burned down should that happen.

ol number 7
11-18-2005, 06:08 AM
The league is really trying to get that new stadium passed. I'm betting that the Chiefs are an old school tema that they would like to keep where they are and just renovate a stadium. Several things could happen. The first is the stadium isn't approved and the team moves, the second is that they get a new stadium, but without the retractable roof and so no super bowl and the last is the obvious hosting of the Super Bowl, retractable roof and all.

How 'bout putting a GOOD team in KC or is more toilets what's really impotent to the Chiefs fans. If they have the SB in KC trust me it will only be once.

Could you see the Broncos winning a SB in KC. How ironic.

ol number 7
11-18-2005, 06:56 AM
Just some info for everyone. The deal is already stipulated that the Chiefs would not be forced to put the roof on for any game except the Superbowl. This was a clause specifically dealt with in light of the World Series. KC will not become a dome team, and anyone that know a thing about that city knows ther is no way it could happen with a sliding roof. It would probably be burned down should that happen.

So they use the roof once and then let it rot up there. Don't make sense to me BUT it might to one of those KC hayseeds over there. Maybe they will use the roof for some giant tractor pulls.