View Full Version : Just got back from the Oakland game...
Jesterhole
11-13-2005, 06:29 PM
Man, what an ass kicking. And to have to sit there, in that sea of blackness and not be able to cheer was almost unbearable. Some thoughts from seeing the game live...
-Jake is great. Every snap I sort of do an inner cringe, but watching him today gave me a lot of confidence in him. He made two bad throws all day. One where he missed a wide open Rod Smith for what would have been a huge gain, and another where he almost had an INT on the 20. That probably would have gone for a score, so Jake got lucky there. But everything else...moving around in the pocket, making a play when he needed, and a great scramble to set up a field goal. We still haven't seen him play when he needs to come back, but he looks really good out there.
-Bell is kind of lame. I love his breakaway runs and all, but he goes down on first contact every time, and never makes anything happen without great blocking. I think Mike actually has a quicker burst to and through the hole. Bell's cutback's look odd, and it seemed like he was slipping and sliding out there today. Not sure why we were using him on the goal line either. Maybe I'm being hard on the guy, but he didn't impress me at all today.
-Warren was taking a double team on most snaps. The man is a freakin' beast. Collins had a decent amount of time to through the ball though. I don't blame Coyer for not blitzing, Porter and Moss are beasts. Watching them run out there was pretty scary.
-For all of Darrent's good player, I think Foxworth is going to be the better corner down the line. Guy was on either Moss or Porter all day, and more than held his own. In fact, he did a much better job of tackling Moss and Porter on quick routes than Bailey did. Foxworth was out there starting instead of Williams today. Anyone else notice that?
-Oakland Col is a great place to tailgate. Really good football environment, you'd never think the Raiders suck as bad as they do. Every fan seemed pretty much die hard, and they all hated the Broncos. But they were all cool too, and I had a lot of fun.
Overall, the team looked very impressive. There was a moment there, after the second fumble, where you felt that the game was about to get really close. Then Darrent made his play and that's all she wrote. Listening to 70,000 boo the Raiders every time they took the field was worth the $80.
MrPeepers
11-13-2005, 06:51 PM
I would love paying the money to hear that! 80 bucks for a symphony of Raider Boos would be priceless
Odysseus
11-13-2005, 06:53 PM
I think Bell is getting better at driving forward but Anderson is better.
You are spot on about Foxworth. They were throwing his way all day.
Warren is an absolute beast out there. I'm surprised Trevor didn't get in more plays because of that guy.
We had the exact same score as the Colts but we didn't let the Raider in the game until the 3rd Quarter.
Pryce was invisible today
sirhcyennek81
11-13-2005, 07:05 PM
Oakland doubled warren and pryce most of the day. Brown, Ekuban, and Meyers beat the single coverage.
SoCalBronco
11-13-2005, 07:30 PM
Pryce was invisible today
Actually I thought Trevor was quite disruptive today. He got in the backfield several times and forced a fumble. He was in on several tackles near the LOS against the run.
jebures
11-13-2005, 07:56 PM
Pryce was invisible today
invisible except for the fact that he sacked collins and forced a fumble, but yah invisible:thumbsup:
OrangeShadow
11-13-2005, 07:59 PM
i would of cheered
24champ
11-13-2005, 09:57 PM
Pryce was invisible today
yeah to the raiders o-line :thumbsup:
ludo21
11-13-2005, 10:04 PM
Good to see you had a good time. Spot on with most of it. Bell did lack a burst today, to me it was more to much dancing. A few of those plays he tried to break them loose rather than just do one cut and gain 5 yards.
Warren is doing awesome and i cant wait for next week when a bad Jet OL will have to triple team him. :thumbs:
Pezman
11-13-2005, 10:08 PM
SO JESTERHOLE>>>> Back on the bandwagon are we? Need we bring up these little bombs that you wrote here not more than a few months ago? I'm sure you were dressed in your full raiders gear. Bandwagoner
I am a long time Bronco fan... but since the Raiders acquired Moss, I am all on their jock. I love the OAKLAND RAIDERS! OMG if anyone thinks the broncos will finsih ahead of the raiders they are out of their minds! Lamont Jordan will run all over the broncos this year... wait and see. Jake Plummer is needs to take throwing lessons from Collins, I mean hell, Tuisasopo is a better QB than the snake. Lets get with the program and transform the Orange Mane into the Orange LAME! Who's with me!?
http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showthread.php?t=28140
or how about this gem
http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showthread.php?t=28145
or this one
http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showthread.php?t=28144
ludo21
11-13-2005, 10:09 PM
:contract: SO JESTERHOLE>>>> Back on the bandwagon are we? Need we bring up these little bombs that you wrote here not more than a few months ago? I'm sure you were dressed in your full raiders gear. Bandwagoner
http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showthread.php?t=28140
or how about this gem
http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showthread.php?t=28145
or this one
http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showthread.php?t=28144
freaking ouch! :contract:
Mile High Shack
11-13-2005, 10:11 PM
SO JESTERHOLE>>>> Back on the bandwagon are we? Need we bring up these little bombs that you wrote here not more than a few months ago? I'm sure you were dressed in your full raiders gear. Bandwagoner
http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showthread.php?t=28140
or how about this gem
http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showthread.php?t=28145
or this one
http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showthread.php?t=28144
good find Pezzy
dude isn't a Bronco fan
SoCalBronco
11-13-2005, 10:12 PM
Im not one to usually defend Jesterhole for a variety of reasons but I believe he said that was because some guys at work got on his computer and wrote all that stuff up.
ludo21
11-13-2005, 10:12 PM
Im not one to usually defend Jesterhole for a variety of reasons but I believe he said that was because some guys at work got on his computer and wrote all that stuff up.
We will have to wait and see what this jester says i suppose
Mile High Shack
11-13-2005, 10:13 PM
Im not one to usually defend Jesterhole for a variety of reasons but I believe he said that was because some guys at work got on his computer and wrote all that stuff up.
hmmm, that sounds familiar too
.........I guess we'll see if he responds
Pezman
11-13-2005, 10:16 PM
Too convienent if you ask me ;)
invisible except for the fact that he sacked collins and forced a fumble, but yah invisible:thumbsup:
I see he did have a sack, I missed that.
Damn chat room is too distracting to the game.
lol! Spide with the "you weak kneed little pussy" :) Gotta love it
REB
1-2-3-:Broncos:!!!!!!! :charge:
kwbaum829
11-13-2005, 10:22 PM
Man I would have loved to been there. I bet they wanted to hang u hehe. Nothing better than going to a away game and rubbin in there faces. I especially love the all the heckling prior to the game and the silence that follows. Having been to many SeaChickens games when the Broncs came and stomped mud holes in'm. Man they hate Elway. And i rub it in there faces everytime. Last years preseason game was especially nice. Especially the 2 bull dikes sittin behind me trying to kick my arse. Good stuff.
Crushaholic
11-14-2005, 12:24 AM
Im not one to usually defend Jesterhole for a variety of reasons but I believe he said that was because some guys at work got on his computer and wrote all that stuff up.
Then, he's an idiot for leaving his computer on and logged into the Mane. He's either an idiot or a liar...
Pat Bowlen
11-14-2005, 12:46 AM
The guy's a Bronco fan. Notice the time and date that those posts were all made during or the fact that those posts are completely contradictory to everything else he's previously said on the board. It's obvious it was either complete sarcasm intended as a joke or somebody else giving him a hard time.
ozomulsion
11-14-2005, 01:05 AM
For the folks complaining about Tatum: The guy was averaging seven freaking YPC before this game. Take it or leave it ****heads.
enjolras
11-14-2005, 08:00 AM
For the folks complaining about Tatum: The guy was averaging seven freaking YPC before this game. Take it or leave it ****heads.
If its one or the other.. I'll leave it thank you very much. I'd be much more interested in seeing what his median yards per carry is, because I suspect that would be far less impressive. Average anything is generally a worthless stat, no more than in this case.
Big runs are nice (and having that threat is huge), but a back who can rack up 4 yards on basically every touch will win a lot of football games for you. Anderson did that yesterday... he pushed the pile on basically every carry. I love Tatum and I love what he can do, but if I'm forced to choose I'll take a true 4 yard per carry back any day.
Rock Chalk
11-14-2005, 08:05 AM
Pryce was invisible today
How does it feel to be wrong most of the time?
epicSocialism4tw
11-14-2005, 08:09 AM
If its one or the other.. I'll leave it thank you very much. I'd be much more interested in seeing what his median yards per carry is, because I suspect that would be far less impressive. Average anything is generally a worthless stat, no more than in this case.
Big runs are nice (and having that threat is huge), but a back who can rack up 4 yards on basically every touch will win a lot of football games for you. Anderson did that yesterday... he pushed the pile on basically every carry. I love Tatum and I love what he can do, but if I'm forced to choose I'll take a true 4 yard per carry back any day.
I'll second that emotion.
Jesterhole
11-14-2005, 08:10 AM
SO JESTERHOLE>>>> Back on the bandwagon are we? Need we bring up these little bombs that you wrote here not more than a few months ago? I'm sure you were dressed in your full raiders gear. Bandwagoner
Wanted to show some guys at work an Anti-Raider fans thread, so I let them at my computer at work. They posted some BS. If you check the record on any day but that, I've been supporting the Broncos.
Jesterhole
11-14-2005, 08:12 AM
Then, he's an idiot for leaving his computer on and logged into the Mane. He's either an idiot or a liar...
I work at a game studio man, that's just the environment. Give me a damn break, it was a stupid prank by some 24 year olds. Get over it.
Jesterhole
11-14-2005, 08:15 AM
For the folks complaining about Tatum: The guy was averaging seven freaking YPC before this game. Take it or leave it ****heads.
Good point. I guess I have to complain about how we were using him on Sunday then. Goaline? Running the clock out? I guess he just wasn't in his element.
epicSocialism4tw
11-14-2005, 08:16 AM
For the folks complaining about Tatum: The guy was averaging seven freaking YPC before this game. Take it or leave it ****heads.
Tatum needs to hit the line with intesity and focus. He is usually ready to go down at the first touch. If he really wants the bulk of the carries, he'll need get into the second level faster when things are bunched at the LOS.
Rock Chalk
11-14-2005, 08:18 AM
Tatum needs to hit the line with intesity and focus. He is usually ready to go down at the first touch. If he really wants the bulk of the carries, he'll need get into the second level faster when things are bunched at the LOS.
We watched different games apparently. Oakland played their gap assignments better than anyone has so far this year against us. Tatum's fumble was a result of a hard hard hit not poor technique (look again, he had both hands wrapped around the ball, he just got popped by an unblocked rusher). I think he ability to get tough yards is improving but I dont see why he or MA should be full time starters. Both have done what is expected of them this year and both should continue to get the same amount of carries they have been. Its working afterall, why fix it?
epicSocialism4tw
11-14-2005, 08:41 AM
We watched different games apparently. Oakland played their gap assignments better than anyone has so far this year against us. Tatum's fumble was a result of a hard hard hit not poor technique (look again, he had both hands wrapped around the ball, he just got popped by an unblocked rusher). I think he ability to get tough yards is improving but I dont see why he or MA should be full time starters. Both have done what is expected of them this year and both should continue to get the same amount of carries they have been. Its working afterall, why fix it?
Oh...Im definately not a proponent of change in the backfield. I was responding to that guy's post about Bell.
I love the backfield as it stands. It is more effective and consistent than anything we've seen in recent years.
I just dont think that Tatum Bell will show the same production at 22-25 carries a game. He cant get those tough yards that Anderson does. I love the way Anderson ran yesterday. He carried the pile several times.
Garcia Bronco
11-14-2005, 08:47 AM
-Warren was taking a double team on most snaps. The man is a freakin' beast. Collins had a decent amount of time to through the ball though. I don't blame Coyer for not blitzing, Porter and Moss are beasts. Watching them run out there was pretty scary
He's my MVP
Crushaholic
11-14-2005, 10:28 AM
I work at a game studio man, that's just the environment. Give me a damn break, it was a stupid prank by some 24 year olds. Get over it.
Well, if that's the case, then I apologize for my comments. It just looked rather suspicious...