Chiefs Fans and a Player fall for the oldest trick in the book

[BroncoBuff]

This is too bad. I wouldda though podolak was smarter than that, actually.



NFL Fans Duped By Con Men
By Jason Shyner
Associated Press Staff Writer

OVERLAND PARK, KS (AP) A group of twenty-three Kansas City Chiefs fans, including former Chiefs player Ed Podolak, were swindled out of more than $37,000 by a Colorado confidence ring, according to a report released Tuesday by Overland Park police.

According to the report, a group of football revelers, including Podolak, a former Chiefs running back and current real estate developer, was approached by three Denver tourists while watching the Monday Night Football telecast at Blinky’s, an Overland Park gathering spot for fans. The Denver trio apparently enticed the group with a photo of a motor they claimed to be a "miracle machine" which ran on water, and generated more power than it used.

The excited group of Chiefs fans apparently spent half the night visiting ATM machines as far away as Olathe and Gladstone, retrieving a total of more than $37,000 in cash between them. The Denver trio gathered the cash up, and stating they would be right back with the motor, left the bar at around 1:30 a.m. After waiting several hours, nine of the original twenty-three presented at Overland Police headquarters a few minutes after 8 o'clock to report the fraud.

http://img370.imageshack.us/img370/8973/10001770bk.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
This photograph of a motor was presented to the Chiefs fans
as a self-generating "perpetual motion machine" (Photo - AP)

Such "perpetual motion" machines were a long-standing staple of sophisticated confidence schemes, though they fell out of favor with swindlers in the 1930s after a group of eminent physicists led by Albert Einstein completely debunked the idea of self-generating devices. Despite being told of this, several in the group are still holding out hope. "If you think about it, all we got was the photo," said Craye Z. Horci, one of the group. "If we had the actual machine, maybe it would work." Horci said he would go back to Blinky's next Monday night in the hopes that the Colorado trio would return with the actual motor.

Others in the group were less hopeful. "I am jaded by this," said Podolak. "You would think you could trust people who claim they have altered the laws of physics. I will be more vigilant next time." Podolak was a member of the Cheifs 1970 Super Bowl team, stories about which are available in the Ancient History section of most major university libraries.

[Bronx33]

Craye Z. Horci mouth is a self-generating device......:laugh:

[bronco militia]

bwhahahahahahahahaha!


bwhahahahahahahahaha!


this can't a be a real...link?

[watermock]

If the frauds could of just brought a tiny Sterling engine in there, they could of tripled their money...I saw a sterling engine run off a cup of ice and a hand...evidently, all it needs is a heat differential...

On September 27, 1816, Robert Stirling applied for a patent for his Economiser at the Chancery in Edinburgh, Scotland. By trade, Robert Stirling was actually a minister in the Church of Scotland and he continued to give services until he was eighty-six years old. But, in his spare time, he built heat engines in his home workshop. Lord Kelvin used one of the working models during some of his university classes.

In 1850 the simple and elegant dynamics of the engine were first explained by Professor McQuorne Rankine. Approximately one hundred years later, the term "Stirling engine" was coined by Rolf Meijer in order to describe all types of closed cycle regenerative gas engines.





Original engine developed in 1816
Today, Stirling engines are used in some very specialized applications, like in submarines or auxiliary power generators, where quiet operation is important. Stirling engines are unique heat engines because their theoretical efficiency is nearly equal to their theoretical maximum efficiency, known as the Carnot Cycle efficiency. Stirling engines are powered by the expansion of a gas when heated, followed by the compression of the gas when cooled. The Stirling engine contains a fixed amount of gas which is transferred back and forth between a "cold" and and a "hot" end. The "displacer piston" moves the gas between the two ends and the "power piston " changes the internal volume as the gas expands and contracts.



Solar Stirling Engine

The gasses used inside a Stirling engine never leave the engine. There are no exhaust valves that vent high-pressure gasses, as in a gasoline or diesel engine, and there are no explosions taking place. Because of this, Stirling engines are very quiet. The Stirling cycle uses an external heat source, which could be anything from gasoline to solar energy to the heat produced by decaying plants. No combustion takes place inside the cylinders of the engine.



Stirling Engine

The SES Solar Dish Stirling technology is well beyond the research and development stage, with more than 20 years of recorded operating history. The equipment is well characterized with over 25,000 hours of on-sun time. Since 1984, the Company's solar dish Stirling equipment has held the world's efficiency record for converting solar energy into grid-quality electricity. SES has teamed with the U.S. Department of Energy and Sun-Labs (NREL and Sandia National Laboratories) to endurance test and commercialize the SES solar Stirling system.

[bronco militia]

the ap uses image shack to host pics?...

this is bs...but funny!

[watermock]

The Stirling doesn't have much torque and runs on momentum, and would be difficult to governor, making it unapplicable to motor cars and such...but they should be able to spin a generator quite easily...

Craye Z. Horci must be a genius to find a way to take the odor out of gasoline...maybe it runs on Ethanol and they were too drunk to smell it...Ha!

[Hotrod]

LOL classic stuff Ha!

[DomCasual]

Dude, you're crazy! That was pretty good, though - I have to admit. Ed Podolak was a nice touch.

[watermock]

http://www.stirlingenergy.com/incl_docs/images/engine.jpg

Pretty Funky huh...don't worry, Mobil/Exxon are trying to snap up all the patents and diagrams and companies...

[DomCasual]

http://www.stirlingenergy.com/incl_docs/images/engine.jpg
Mock, has anyone ever told you that you resemble Cliff Clavin on Cheers?

[Bronx33]

Mock, has anyone ever told you that you resemble Cliff Clavin on Cheers?


LMAO! and that leads to an interesting story about the ancient mayans and their culture.

http://welton1.tripod.com/Pictures/cliff.jpg

[Ratboy]

rofl

[crazyhorse]

Generating more energy than you use is quite simple really.

A good example would be this thread. I expend very little energy while buffy expends a lot of energy.

The secret? Simple.

Make em look stupid, they expend energy for hours, sometimes days. It never takes long to get a donk revved up.

[Bronx33]

Generating more energy than you use is quite simple really.

A good example would be this thread. I expend very little energy while buffy expends a lot of energy.

The secret? Simple.

Make em look stupid, they expend energy for hours, sometimes days. It never takes long to get a donk revved up.

Yep it bothered him........Nyah!

[crazyhorse]

Yep it bothered him........Nyah!

See.

[Bronx33]

See.

Yep, i already expressed that...

[Kaylore]

Yep it bothered him........Nyah!
:~ohyah!:

[Dagmar]

If the frauds could of just brought a tiny Sterling engine in there, they could of tripled their money...I saw a sterling engine run off a cup of ice and a hand...evidently, all it needs is a heat differential...

On September 27, 1816, Robert Stirling applied for a patent for his Economiser at the Chancery in Edinburgh, Scotland. By trade, Robert Stirling was actually a minister in the Church of Scotland and he continued to give services until he was eighty-six years old. But, in his spare time, he built heat engines in his home workshop. Lord Kelvin used one of the working models during some of his university classes.

In 1850 the simple and elegant dynamics of the engine were first explained by Professor McQuorne Rankine. Approximately one hundred years later, the term "Stirling engine" was coined by Rolf Meijer in order to describe all types of closed cycle regenerative gas engines.





Original engine developed in 1816
Today, Stirling engines are used in some very specialized applications, like in submarines or auxiliary power generators, where quiet operation is important. Stirling engines are unique heat engines because their theoretical efficiency is nearly equal to their theoretical maximum efficiency, known as the Carnot Cycle efficiency. Stirling engines are powered by the expansion of a gas when heated, followed by the compression of the gas when cooled. The Stirling engine contains a fixed amount of gas which is transferred back and forth between a "cold" and and a "hot" end. The "displacer piston" moves the gas between the two ends and the "power piston " changes the internal volume as the gas expands and contracts.



Solar Stirling Engine

The gasses used inside a Stirling engine never leave the engine. There are no exhaust valves that vent high-pressure gasses, as in a gasoline or diesel engine, and there are no explosions taking place. Because of this, Stirling engines are very quiet. The Stirling cycle uses an external heat source, which could be anything from gasoline to solar energy to the heat produced by decaying plants. No combustion takes place inside the cylinders of the engine.



Stirling Engine

The SES Solar Dish Stirling technology is well beyond the research and development stage, with more than 20 years of recorded operating history. The equipment is well characterized with over 25,000 hours of on-sun time. Since 1984, the Company's solar dish Stirling equipment has held the world's efficiency record for converting solar energy into grid-quality electricity. SES has teamed with the U.S. Department of Energy and Sun-Labs (NREL and Sandia National Laboratories) to endurance test and commercialize the SES solar Stirling system.

Us Scots are a crooked genius bunch...Nyah!

[Paladin]

Crazy is always trying to push her "funkier than thou" attitude.

I'd say she is the winner.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

Chiefs fans are dumb and they have mullets!

[bendog]

I sort of thought this would be about a pregnant fan and LJ telling he'd had a vascetomy

[broncosteven]

Chiefs fans are dumb and they have mullets!


You are also gay.

Not that there is any thing wrong with that

[Old Dude]

... "I am jaded by this," said Podolak. "You would think you could trust people who claim they have altered the laws of physics... "

Does anyone else see a flaw in this reasoning?

[broncosteven]

Please let these guys know I have a Bridge in London & one in Brooklyn for sale. Cheap!

[Crushaholic]

Generating more energy than you use is quite simple really.

A good example would be this thread. I expend very little energy while buffy expends a lot of energy.

The secret? Simple.

Make em look stupid, they expend energy for hours, sometimes days. It never takes long to get a donk revved up.

Come on, now. Give Broncobuff points for creativity. That was some funny ****!

[ludo21]

ROFL!

Buff that was good!

[crazyhorse]

It was pretty funny.

Not as funny as the Clarett pick. But funny none the less.

[BroncoBuff]

The Stirling doesn't have much torque and runs on momentum, and would be difficult to governor, making it unapplicable to motor cars and such...but they should be able to spin a generator quite easily...

Craye Z. Horci must be a genius to find a way to take the odor out of gasoline...maybe it runs on Ethanol and they were too drunk to smell it...Ha!
I don't know about all that Stirling stuff, mock . . . so if you're angling for a check in the mail, I'm probably not your guy. :pigsfly:
___________

BUT I DID SEE . . . Willie Nelson on the Bill Maher show about a month ago, and he has a Mercedes that runs on used lard from fast-food restaurants!!

I am serious, this is NOT another con job - apparently it's true!

[BroncoBuff]

It was pretty funny.

Not as funny as the Clarett pick. But funny none the less.
Touche, my gullible friend!

[Atlas]

Generating more energy than you use is quite simple really.

A good example would be this thread. I expend very little energy while buffy expends a lot of energy.

The secret? Simple.

Make em look stupid, they expend energy for hours, sometimes days. It never takes long to get a donk revved up.

Yeah, well you got owned!!!

[Jetmeck]

Mock, has anyone ever told you that you resemble Cliff Clavin on Cheers?


More like Kramer on Seinfield ??????

[BroncoBuff]

More like Kramer on Seinfield ??????
But not as athletic.

[BroncoBuff]

I guess it's true!! Fast-food restaurant grease powering cars and trucks - instead of gasoline:

http://www.smithsonianmag.com/smithsonian/issues05/sep05/phenomena.html

http://www.eng-tips.com/viewthread.cfm?qid=7629&page=1

[watermock]

http://www.stirlingenergy.com/incl_docs/images/engine.jpg

Is it me, or does this engine seem pornographic? OK, it's me...Ha!


Me and Meck have discussed making OF1 smell like french fries, but we both deemed it a little risky...too easy to clog the injectors...and they aint cheap...if you could get a refined source...but there are still serious technical problems to boiling aunt Harriett down for fuel....

[SNR_Chief]

Good stuff. I suggest saving it for Chiefs week, though.

[R8RH8R]

If they bought that, maybe they'd be interested in the pure bred, mixed breed dog I have for sale.

[Odysseus]

Good stuff. I suggest saving it for Chiefs week, though.

No worries. We can always bring it back! Nyah!

[Spider]

This is too bad. I wouldda though podolak was smarter than that, actually.



NFL Fans Duped By Con Men
By Jason Shyner
Associated Press Staff Writer

OVERLAND PARK, KS (AP) A group of twenty-three Kansas City Chiefs fans, including former Chiefs player Ed Podolak, were swindled out of more than $37,000 by a Colorado confidence ring, according to a report released Tuesday by Overland Park police.

According to the report, a group of football revelers, including Podolak, a former Chiefs running back and current real estate developer, was approached by three Denver tourists while watching the Monday Night Football telecast at Blinky’s, an Overland Park gathering spot for fans. The Denver trio apparently enticed the group with a photo of a motor they claimed to be a "miracle machine" which ran on water, and generated more power than it used.

The excited group of Chiefs fans apparently spent half the night visiting ATM machines as far away as Olathe and Gladstone, retrieving a total of more than $37,000 in cash between them. The Denver trio gathered the cash up, and stating they would be right back with the motor, left the bar at around 1:30 a.m. After waiting several hours, nine of the original twenty-three presented at Overland Police headquarters a few minutes after 8 o'clock to report the fraud.

http://img370.imageshack.us/img370/8973/10001770bk.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
This photograph of a motor was presented to the Chiefs fans
as a self-generating "perpetual motion machine" (Photo - AP)

Such "perpetual motion" machines were a long-standing staple of sophisticated confidence schemes, though they fell out of favor with swindlers in the 1930s after a group of eminent physicists led by Albert Einstein completely debunked the idea of self-generating devices. Despite being told of this, several in the group are still holding out hope. "If you think about it, all we got was the photo," said Craye Z. Horci, one of the group. "If we had the actual machine, maybe it would work." Horci said he would go back to Blinky's next Monday night in the hopes that the Colorado trio would return with the actual motor.

Others in the group were less hopeful. "I am jaded by this," said Podolak. "You would think you could trust people who claim they have altered the laws of physics. I will be more vigilant next time." Podolak was a member of the Cheifs 1970 Super Bowl team, stories about which are available in the Ancient History section of most major university libraries.


LOL classic ........

[baja]

It was pretty funny.

Not as funny as the Clarett pick. But funny none the less.

What Clarett pick we never had relations with that ball player, never ever.

BTW Funny shiit Buf.

[baja]

The real deal

https://www.cs.drexel.edu/~crorres/Archimedes/Screw/Perpetual1580.jpg

[Crushaholic]

LOL Bumping up a classic thread. That was definitely good stuff...Hilarious!

[Raider Bill]

Never mind all those new fangled laws of motion Hilarious!

[watermock]

http://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:QnOCPInHt979VM:http://www.rodin.cc/f16257.gif

Generates electricity off of brain waves...of course, after a few weeks you are functionally illiterate.

[ZachKC]

this can't a be a real...link?
wow.

[Pezman]

Heh, gotta love the classics

[Odysseus]

:notworthy