Aikman article on Broncos

[The Big E]

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=alltherightmoves&prov=tsn&type=lgns

All the right moves
By Troy Aikman - SportingNews

Quick, name a Broncos linebacker. C'mon, no dillydallying! Al Wilson, you say? OK, but it took you long enough. What about the two outside guys? Yes, Ian Gold is one. And the other is D.J. Williams. They may not be as famous as Ray Lewis and Tedy Bruschi, but they form a linebacker unit that might be the best in the league.

Wilson, Gold and Williams are cut from the same mold. They fly all over the field. They're strong in pass coverage, and all three can blitz. They love to play the game, and they're a joy to watch. They're also the best part of a defense that is playing well despite some drastic changes since last year.

The Broncos took some heat for rebuilding their line with four castoffs from Cleveland, including former first-round draft picks Courtney Brown and Gerard Warren. They're not getting many sacks, but they're getting plenty of hits on the quarterback -- which can be just as effective. Combine them with Trevor Pryce, who missed most of last season with a back injury, and the line is as strong and deep as it has been in years.

Many were skeptical of the Broncos at draft time, too, when they used their first three picks on cornerbacks. Well, with Champ Bailey ailing and Lenny Walls hurt and no longer in the team's plans, two of the rookies, Darrent Williams and Domonique Foxworth, have started games and are getting up to speed quickly. It was Foxworth's end zone interception of a Donovan McNabb pass that halted Philadelphia's comeback bid in Week 8.

Coordinator Larry Coyer is doing some interesting things with the defense. On one play against Philadelphia, he had his cornerbacks press the Eagles' two receivers while the other nine players all were within two yards of the line. I'd never seen a defense crowd the line that tight before. Coyer blitzed like crazy in the first half, then backed off in the second half. He's good at showing different looks so offenses have a hard time getting a bead on what the defense is doing.

I have concerns about Denver. It has had trouble closing out games, Bailey isn't healthy, and it has struggled offensively on third down. But the defense is stout, quarterback Jake Plummer never has been better, and the running game is in high gear. With the toughest part of their schedule behind them, the Broncos are a team to be feared in the AFC.

[brncs_fan]

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=alltherightmoves&prov=tsn&type=lgns

All the right moves
By Troy Aikman - SportingNews

Quick, name a Broncos linebacker. C'mon, no dillydallying! Al Wilson, you say? OK, but it took you long enough. What about the two outside guys? Yes, Ian Gold is one. And the other is D.J. Williams. They may not be as famous as Ray Lewis and Tedy Bruschi, but they form a linebacker unit that might be the best in the league.

Wilson, Gold and Williams are cut from the same mold. They fly all over the field. They're strong in pass coverage, and all three can blitz. They love to play the game, and they're a joy to watch. They're also the best part of a defense that is playing well despite some drastic changes since last year.

The Broncos took some heat for rebuilding their line with four castoffs from Cleveland, including former first-round draft picks Courtney Brown and Gerard Warren. They're not getting many sacks, but they're getting plenty of hits on the quarterback -- which can be just as effective. Combine them with Trevor Pryce, who missed most of last season with a back injury, and the line is as strong and deep as it has been in years.

Many were skeptical of the Broncos at draft time, too, when they used their first three picks on cornerbacks. Well, with Champ Bailey ailing and Lenny Walls hurt and no longer in the team's plans, two of the rookies, Darrent Williams and Domonique Foxworth, have started games and are getting up to speed quickly. It was Foxworth's end zone interception of a Donovan McNabb pass that halted Philadelphia's comeback bid in Week 8.

Coordinator Larry Coyer is doing some interesting things with the defense. On one play against Philadelphia, he had his cornerbacks press the Eagles' two receivers while the other nine players all were within two yards of the line. I'd never seen a defense crowd the line that tight before. Coyer blitzed like crazy in the first half, then backed off in the second half. He's good at showing different looks so offenses have a hard time getting a bead on what the defense is doing.

I have concerns about Denver. It has had trouble closing out games, Bailey isn't healthy, and it has struggled offensively on third down. But the defense is stout, quarterback Jake Plummer never has been better, and the running game is in high gear. With the toughest part of their schedule behind them, the Broncos are a team to be feared in the AFC.
I was hoping to stay under the radar a little longer.

[SpringStein]

Not so sure about "with the toughest part of the schedule behind them". Still 5 away games.

[El Guapo]

aikman has said it, so now it must be true.


all he said was that he has concerns about denver? what concerns? he definitely didnt spend too much time on that topic.

[ICON]

aikman has said it, so now it must be true.


all he said was that he has concerns about denver? what concerns? he definitely didnt spend too much time on that topic.

MAYBE HE BET THE FARM AND KIDS THAT K.C, Ha! OR FAIDERS , OR SD WOULD WIN THE WEST._i_O_i_ Ha! SUCKERS


BRONCOS RULES!!!

[Bob's your Information Minister]

I still find it humorous you guys only have 10 sacks.

[Bronx33]

I still find it humorous you guys only have 10 sacks.


You only have 4 more, 10 can change really fast in one game bob...also you only have 5 INTs to our 7 so i find that funny.

[Broncomutt]

I still find it humorous you guys only have 10 sacks.

I always find it humorous when we have a better W/L record than you. Looks like we're all having a laugh.

[Mile High Shack]

I still find it humorous you guys only have 10 sacks.

care to compare QB pressures?

sacks are great for stats, but they don't always tell the whole story

seriously you are the biggest jack ass on this board after the chiefs win

I like you better when the chiefs lose and you take a xanax

[ICON]

I still find it humorous you guys only have 10 sacks.
_i_O_i_ Trent Green, 87.8
Jake Plummer, 91.3 :poke: NOW THATS GOOD STUFFHa!

[Bronx33]

COOL! even the newbies are beating on barb! with stunning affect.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

care to compare QB pressures?

sacks are great for stats, but they don't always tell the whole story

seriously you are the biggest jack ass on this board after the chiefs win

I like you better when the chiefs lose and you take a xanax

Compare? I am just talking about the Broncos. No one else.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

_i_O_i_ Trent Green, 87.8
Jake Plummer, 91.3 :poke: NOW THATS GOOD STUFFHa!

Green takes Plummer to school in the QB rating for years and now you want to crow over 8 games.

Funny.

[Mile High Shack]

Compare? I am just talking about the Broncos. No one else.

I find it funny that you live in your parents basement still and play pokeman

I'm just talking about you

no one else

take your xanax and go away...or paxil or both

[Bronx33]

Green takes Plummer to school in the QB rating for years and now you want to crow over 8 games.

Funny.


Welcome to the year 2005 bob now wipe your feet before you track sh** on the floor.

[ICON]

I still find it humorous you guys only have 10 sacks.

!Booya! Dustin Colquitt, KC 36 1478 41.1 62 14 38.9 3 8.3 0 35.0 #39
Todd Sauerbrun, Den 39 1774 45.5 66 14 35.9 4 10.3 1 39.1# 6ROFL!

[ICON]

:welcome: Green takes Plummer to school in the QB rating for years and now you want to crow over 8 games.

Funny.ROFL! NO KC FOOTBALL IS FUNNY4321~

[Bob's your Information Minister]

Man, this place should be renamed "The Orange Deflection."

[Smiling Assassin27]

ask Trent for his assessment of the Bronco pass rush after the Monday Night debacle. i'm sure that after spitting out grass still lodged in his sarcophagus, he'll utter the word, 'sufficient'.

[Garcia Bronco]

I still find it humorous you guys only have 10 sacks.


We also have 81 penalties committed against our defense. that's the most in the league. And it should be 82.

[Smiling Assassin27]

Trent's record as a starter in KC is a joke. 34-30 as of 05. Jake's record as a starter in Denver speaks for itself. Feel free to crow about passer ratings, we'll take the guy that wins.

[Bronx33]

Man, this place should be renamed "The Orange Deflection."

Ya ok bob.....

[errand]

I still find it humorous you guys only have 10 sacks.

...even more humorous is you guys trail us despite our only having 10 sacks....maybe you guys can get to 10 wins.

[Kaylore]

Man, this place should be renamed "The Orange Deflection."
Um, Bob - What makes it ok for you to hijack thread after thread with your asinine comments that usually derail the original topic of conversation to smack the Broncos, but when we do likewise to nail the Chorfs you get all upset about "deflection"? Who made you the meister of what we get to talk about?

[Bob's your Information Minister]

I didn't derail ****. Aikman was talking about the Browncos. I chimed in with a statement about your defense.

Then some jackasses decided to start talking about KC.

[Kaylore]

I didn't derail ****. Aikman was talking about the Browncos. I chimed in with a statement about your defense.

Then some jackasses decided to start talking about KC.
Generalize the topic discussion? I don't remember the thread being about sacks. Ok I can play too. No one deflected! This topic was about Pro-football and they made posts about pro-football. Uhh

[Bob's your Information Minister]

Generalize the topic discussion? I don't remember the thread being about sacks. Ok I can play too. No one deflected! This topic was about Pro-football and they made posts about pro-football. Uhh

No. The article was about the Broncos, and mostly their D. I was commenting on that.

[Hotrod]

Sometimes its just fun to sit back and watch Boob get slapped around. :yep:

[Bob's your Information Minister]

Sometimes its just fun to sit back and watch Boob get slapped around. :yep:

Hardly. This thread is chock full of deflection. If you qualify that as being "slapped around," you are insane.

[Broncos Rule]

Definition of insanity: Becoming a regular poster on a rival board and expecting to not get smacked around.

[Bronx33]

Hardly. This thread is chock full of deflection. If you qualify that as being "slapped around," you are insane.


Sometimes bob i really don't think you understand that you are being slapped around, that's probably where the confusion comes from.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

Sometimes bob i really don't think you understand that you are being slapped around, that's probably where the confusion comes from.
It's all opinion. No Bronco fan would ever admit to being slapped around here so you'll excuse me if I take your posts with a grain of salt.

[Mile High Shack]

It's all opinion. No Bronco fan would ever admit to being slapped around here so you'll excuse me if I take your posts with a grain of salt.

boob you get slapped around more than your johnson when you are watching "queer as folk" in your parents basement sunday nights

[RedskinBronco]

I still find it humorous you guys only have 10 sacks.


I find it funny that your defense still can't stop anybody. It's actually really funny how you went from a defensive oriented team to an offensive oriented team in 10 yrs. Maybe in 10 years you can combine the 2....NAH....this is the chefs we are talking about. At least they provide comedy ROFL!

[Bob's your Information Minister]

boob you get slapped around more than your johnson when you are watching "queer as folk" in your parents basement sunday nights

Not really.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

I find it funny that your defense still can't stop anybody.

I'll wager $500 you can't hold the Raiders under 300 yards like we did. How you like them apples?

[Mile High Shack]

I'll wager $500 you can't hold the Raiders under 300 yards like we did. How you like them apples?

if I was a betting man I'd be all over this

we need Meck

meck, take this fool up on this

[RedskinBronco]

I'll wager $500 you can't hold the Raiders under 300 yards like we did. How you like them apples?


You just try to find any possible way to make yourself believe that your defense is good. Why can't you see that when it matters, you can't stop anyone....why do you think Vermiel went for it, he knew the raiders would win in OT. It was obvious.

[Northman]

I still find it humorous you guys only have 10 sacks.


who cares about sacks? ill take the wins. but i guess your used to settling for less eh boob? wasnt it Priest who has the Rushing TD record right now? do you guys have a trophy to show for that great record? i thought not. :laugh:

[Bronx33]

The raiders stunk in that game and so did yours barb and you are giving all the credit to your D?

[55CrushEm]

Definition of insanity: Becoming a regular poster on a rival board and expecting to not get smacked around.


LOL

[zdoor]

Not really.

So you're saying you slap your johnson around more while watching queer as folk.

Interesting admission....

[Smiling Assassin27]

I'll wager $500 you can't hold the Raiders under 300 yards like we did. How you like them apples?

who the hell cares about yardage? last time i checked, the team with more POINTS wins the game. if you can keep a straight face and disagree, then i'd suggest hitting up TO for a reality pill.

[Hotrod]

So you're saying you slap your johnson around more while watching queer as folk.

Interesting admission....

LOL

Hey boob you still think you dont get slapped around Ha!

[loborugger]

I didn't derail ****. Aikman was talking about the Browncos. I chimed in with a statement about your defense.

Then some jackasses decided to start talking about KC.

Your absolutely right, bob. Everyone on here who talks about KC is a jackass.
Couldnt have said it better myself.

[BMF Bronco]

I still find it humorous you guys only have 10 sacks.
and six wins and 2 losses and 30 points against the chefs and a $hitty play by a no longer Bronco away from holding the chefs to 3 points. Pretty ***king funny!!!!!!

[FantomForce]

I still find it humorous you guys only have 10 sacks.
I find it humorus that you guys can't win without a tripping penalty

[Gcver2ver3]

I still find it humorous you guys only have 10 sacks.


I am amazed at some of your posts....I go onto other AFC West boards all the time...I am certainly not crazy enough to put up postings that you KNOW will bring forth insults and criticisms....

I guess you're into that sort of thing...

What also trips me out is the way you pose your statements...did you not fully expect a bunch of "I find it humorous" fill in the blank retorts????

I'm not complaining though....I deeply enjoy my fellow Broncos fans' rebuttals to your comments...they are usually quite hilarious!

[OrangeShadow]

I still find it humorous you guys only have 10 sacks.

find it funny that we're 6-2 as well?

[Hercules Rockefeller]

I find it funny that Bob still uses sacks as an indicator of how good or bad a pass rush is. He must have watched the Monday Night game. Denver had a whopping two sacks that night, but Trent still spent most of the game on his ass.

[Odysseus]

I wish the Broncos were back under the radar.

I don't like it when the press is happy.

[ICON]

BOOb's your Information Minister GAY Green takes Plummer to school in the QB rating for years and now you want to crow over 8 games.

AND ARE D TAKES FAG BOY TO SCHOOL,>:'( boob http://re2.mm-c1.yimg.com/image/1290859632 :~ohyah!:






4321~ K.C

[Leroy The Disembowler]

ask Trent for his assessment of the Bronco pass rush after the Monday Night debacle. i'm sure that after spitting out grass still lodged in his sarcophagus, he'll utter the word, 'sufficient'.hehe stargate nerd

[Bob's your Information Minister]

I find it funny that Bob still uses sacks as an indicator of how good or bad a pass rush is. He must have watched the Monday Night game. Denver had a whopping two sacks that night, but Trent still spent most of the game on his ass.

When did I say I used sacks as an indicator of how good a pass rush is?

All I said was I found it humorous.

[TotallyScrewed]

It IS strange that Denver has only 10 sacks, is a +9 in the give away/take away, that they are doing better on offense (#3) than on defense (#22). I thought at the beginning of the year that the O-line would be the weak link. I was wrong. I thought the O-line was too small to get the job done. I thought there were far too few talented players in the corp and at least one (Coop) that shouldn't be a starter. I was wrong!

What IS funny is that they're better than KC in ALL of those categories including win/loss. Before Bob has a cow, ALL except sacks.

It is strange is seeing KC's O-line struggle to get players on the field. A position that they've been dominant for a decade or more. It's strange to think that Priests' career might be over. Although I thought that might be the case a year or two ago.

What is funny is seeing thier fans reaction to "your _efense sucks" because it's been bad for years and years. Shoot the messenger, I guess.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

What is funny is seeing thier fans reaction to "your _efense sucks" because it's been bad for years and years. Shoot the messenger, I guess.

Well, our defense IS better this year.

It had a HUGE hand in winning the Oakland game.

[Bronx33]

Well, our defense IS better this year.

It had a HUGE hand in winning the Oakland game.

And it almost had a huge hand in losing it to, thank your O.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

And it almost had a huge hand in losing it to, thank your O.

We wouldn't have even been in the game if our defense hadn't keep us in it the entire first half.

[Bronx33]

We wouldn't have even been in the game if our defense hadn't keep us in it the entire first half.

I think your mistaking the fade and their contant mistakes for good play by your D.....

[Bob's your Information Minister]

I think your mistaking the fade and their contant mistakes for good play by your D.....

You can think what you like. Oakland had 0 turnovers in the first half.

[Bronx33]

You can think what you like. Oakland had 0 turnovers in the first half.

Iam just f***** with ya bob.......

[16-JakE-16]

I didn't derail ****. Aikman was talking about the Browncos. I chimed in with a statement about your defense.

Then some jackasses decided to start talking about KC.
are you gonna cry or what

[FantomForce]

Well, our defense IS better this year.

It had a HUGE hand in winning the Oakland game.
No your offense played a huge part in the holding game, which in turn turned into a trip and would later result in a TD

[Bob's your Information Minister]

No your offense played a huge part in the holding game, which in turn turned into a trip and would later result in a TD

Are you seriously crediting the officials with giving KC the game?

[FantomForce]

Hell yes did we watch the same game????

[Bob's your Information Minister]

Hell yes did we watch the same game????

What about the bullshiat calls on Jared Allen and Benny Sapp on Oakland's first TD drive?

Both teams had bad calls go against them.

And KC still had 50 yards to cover after the tripping call.

[BroncoBuff]

That was an excellent, knowledgable and accurate story . . .

Aikman is my favorite color guy anywhere - he did the Eagles game (or was it the Redskins game?) and was freaking SPOT ON with every bit of info. Too bad he was teamed with a stooge on PBP - I think it was Criqui, although that's not his regular partner.

Whoever the idiot was, he hadn't read a single word about Denver - he called Cecil Sapp "Sean Considine" TWICE! (Considine is Philly's #37).
He also said the Denver defense was "playing well - even though no names jump out at you." Yeah - only FIVE first-round picks on the D-Line, including the #1 overall pick 5 years ago - plus maybe the best known CB and best-known safety in the league.

Anybody remember who that guy was?

[Dukes]

That was an excellent, knowledgable and accurate story . . .

Aikman is my favorite color guy anywhere - he did the Eagles game (or was it the Redskins game?) and was freaking SPOT ON with every bit of info. Too bad he was teamed with a stooge on PBP - I think it was Criqui, although that's not his regular partner.

Whoever the idiot was, he hadn't read a single word about Denver - he called Cecil Sapp "Sean Considine" TWICE! (Considine is Philly's #37).
He also said the Denver defense was "playing well - even though no names jump out at you." Yeah - only FIVE first-round picks on the D-Line, including the #1 overall pick 5 years ago - plus maybe the best known CB and best-known safety in the league.

Anybody remember who that guy was?


His name isn't coming to mind, but sounds like he should be bagging groceries instead of commentating

[BroncoBuff]

plus maybe the best known CB and best-known safety in the league.
Other than Deion, of course . . .

HAPPY VETERANS DAY, O&B4Life! (belated).

[Pendejo]

Unlike Bob I don't find the Donks having only 10 sacks humorous at all. Yes the pass rush has been more consistent (at times) this year, but there is something to be said for not only putting the quarterback on his ass, but putting him there while he still has the ball.

The lost yardage helps win the field position battle, and gives the defense a better chance of getting off the field quickly. I still think that while this defense is athletic, and has moments of looking great...they still give too much away without making the offense (seemingly) work for it.

[BroncoBuff]

Unlike Bob I don't find the Donks having only 10 sacks humorous at all. Yes the pass rush has been more consistent (at times) this year, but there is something to be said for not only putting the quarterback on his ass, but putting him there while he still has the ball.

The lost yardage helps win the field position battle, and gives the defense a better chance of getting off the field quickly. I still think that while this defense is athletic, and has moments of looking great...they still give too much away without making the offense (seemingly) work for it.
The sacks have gotta start coming soon - the law of averages. And I think Courtney Brown should be getting more pressure soon, too - he makes some big plays (esp. fum recoverys - he has 2 or 3) but where is his QB pressure so far?

________

Pendejo - did you read the Rolling Stone article about Hunter Thompson's funeral? Johnny Depp spent about a million bucks to fulfill Gonzo's final wish - have his ashes shot out of a cannon! Funny stuff.

[orange 4 life]

I still find it humorous you guys only have 10 sacks.

i find it humorous that you obviously arent aware that your defense only has a few more.
i also find it humorous that you seem to be ignoring the fact that we kicked the sh!t out of you already this season.
i also find it amusing that you seem to not be aware that we're hitting the qb more often than most teams out there despite a lack of actual sacks.

go watch some games and then report back.

k?

jake

[BroncoBuff]

I still find it humorous you guys only have 10 sacks.
I'll wager $500 you can't hold the Raiders under 300 yards like we did. How you like them apples?
Boob - you're getting yourself in pretty deep here. I, for one, wouldn't trade the Denver Defense for ANY defense in the league - no matter how many sacks we have or don't have (I wouldda thought we had less than ten, actually).

Besides, Vermeil said your QB was pounded so bad on MNF last month, he almost took himself out a couple of times.

HERE'S THE SCOOP: Teams gameplan vs. the Coyer "Blitz-o-Mania": Quick patterns, screens and hot reads. That translates into fewer sacks. The blitzes work AGAINST sacks.

[Sassy]

Boob would rather have sacks than wins? ??? Ha!

[Bronx33]

Boob would rather have sacks than wins? ??? Ha!

Also add passing pecentage to that list....

[Dukes]

HAPPY VETERANS DAY, O&B4Life! (belated).

Thanks a lot BroncoBuff1!

[Meck77]

I'll wager $500 you can't hold the Raiders under 300 yards like we did. How you like them apples?


How about this bet Bob. Broncos beat the Chiefs in your house in December. Straight up. 50 bucks. :Broncos: Odds are definetly in your favor based on past performance.

Let's go Bob.:Broncos:

[Bob's your Information Minister]

How about this bet Bob. Broncos beat the Chiefs in your house in December. Straight up. 50 bucks. :Broncos: Odds are definetly in your favor based on past performance.

Let's go Bob.:Broncos:

I will accept this bet with the stipulation you wait until the day before the game in December. I don't want to lose because Trent Green breaks his leg against Buffalo.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

Bla bla bla...

You guys are getting your panties in a twist over nothing.

I didn't say your pass rush sucked. I said I found it humorous. But continue to deflect, it's what you're best at! :thumbs:

[Dukes]

I will accept this bet with the stipulation you wait until the day before the game in December. I don't want to lose because Trent Green breaks his leg against Buffalo.

Who's to say that BVP isn't starting at Arrowhead Bob?












God I hope that doesn't happen *knock on wood*

[Arkie]

I'll wager $500 you can't hold the Raiders under 300 yards like we did. How you like them apples?

Why? Denver held the Chiefs under 300 yards. We still have two chances to do the same to the Raiders. Are they better than the Chiefs?

[Bob's your Information Minister]

Why? Denver held the Chiefs under 300 yards. We still have two chances to do the same to the Raiders. Are they better than the Chiefs?

I think they match up better against Denver, yes. Plus, it's in Oakland.

[Meck77]

I will accept this bet with the stipulation you wait until the day before the game in December. I don't want to lose because Trent Green breaks his leg against Buffalo.

Anybody could get hurt on any given day. Hell we'd stomp you even with BVP.

It's now or never Bob.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

Alright. I accept your bet.

[Arkie]

I think they match up better against Denver, yes. Plus, it's in Oakland.

I see. I thought you were saying "like we did" meaning 1 out of 2 times, the Chiefs held the Raiders under 300. I thought home games counted because you didn't hold the Raiders under 300 in Oakland.

[Meck77]

Alright. I accept your bet.


Done. You going to the game?

[Rock Chalk]

I think they match up better against Denver, yes. Plus, it's in Oakland.
How do they match up better? Their offense against our defense is a tougher match for them than their offense vrs your defense.

Their defense against our offense opposed to their defense against your offense is probably close to a wash.

So how exactly do they match up better against us than you?

[Bob's your Information Minister]

How do they match up better? Their offense against our defense is a tougher match for them than their offense vrs your defense.

Their defense against our offense opposed to their defense against your offense is probably close to a wash.

So how exactly do they match up better against us than you?

1. Their O-line has played better than ours this season.

2. They have the downfield threats in the passing game that we don't.

3. They have a pass rush.

[Rock Chalk]

1. Their O-line has played better than ours this season.

2. They have the downfield threats in the passing game that we don't.

3. They have a pass rush.
Not asking you how they match up better against us than you matched up against us.

Im asking you how they match up better against us than they did against you.

If your crap defense can limit their points, ours is gonna demolish them.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

Not asking you how they match up better against us than you matched up against us.

Im asking you how they match up better against us than they did against you.

If your crap defense can limit their points, ours is gonna demolish them.

One would think so. But that game was at Arrowhead.

Maybe it's time for you to accept that KC's defense is capable of putting on a better show during a given game than Denver's.

I don't think there's any way you hold Oakland to 263 yards or less.

[MrPeepers]

If KC Can hold Oak to 263 yards there is most definately potential for Denver to do that. If you want to argue as to who is more likely, Denver is. KC's defense has had a couple games with good looking D, but it isn't consistant.

KC's Defense is like dating that slutty girl in high school, as much as you want her to be normal and faithful, she's still a slut. Denver has as good a chance or better than KC of holding any team to fewer yards.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

I guess we will see! If you fail, I will serve the crow!

[GreatBronco16]

How bout this stat boob.

Moss 5catches 127yards 1TD 64lg

You think Denver will keep Moss under those numbers?

And yes, that is from the KC game AT Oakland.


It's funny how you waited till now to talk this smack. You sure as hell wasn't wanting to make this bet about total yardage given up after KCs game IN Oakland.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

No, but I was talking smack about holding them to 17.

[R8RH8R]

Well, look at it this way, Bob..You don't half to worry about the Chefs choking in the playoffs this year-they got a head start and did it during the early part of the season to avoid the Christmas rush.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

Well, look at it this way, Bob..You don't half to worry about the Chefs choking in the playoffs this year-they got a head start and did it during the early part of the season to avoid the Christmas rush.

Hilarious. That one-game lead in the divison you have is looking insurmountable.

[GreatBronco16]

Hilarious. That one-game lead in the divison you have is looking insurmountable.


Kinda like how that last second victory you had over Oakland in your own house has you thinking your team and defense is better than they really are.

[R8RH8R]

It has to be hard to be a chefs fan...Knowing that , while the playoffs is a possible destination, that in the end, you'll just be disappointed again. That the mediocre receivers just can't get the job done, and that like death and taxes, the inevitable Dick Vermeil sob-fest that is his post-game press conference will be full of excuses when they lose AGAIN. I know, I know, the Broncos haven't won a playoff game etc...Better to be a has-been than a never was. The chefs haven't sniffed a Superbowl since before I was born, and likely won't until long after I kick off..

[Bob's your Information Minister]

Kinda like how that last second victory you had over Oakland in your own house has you thinking your team and defense is better than they really are.

The Raiders and Chiefs games are usually close, no matter the records. I'm not sure you have a point.

Based on what I'm hearing though, Denver should be stomping a mudhole in Oakland come Sunday. Otherwise you'll have some crow to eat.

[GreatBronco16]

Yes they should be stomping a mudhole in Oaklands butt. I will be very dissapointed if Denver doesn't. I look at the game last year in Oakland and what Denver did to them with a Denver team that I believe wasn't as good as this one is.

[orange 4 life]

Alright. I accept your bet.

wow.

way to nut up bob.

i must admit, i didnt think you had any nuts.
small as they are, i guess theyre there after all!!

[BRONCCRUSHFAN]

Are you seriously crediting the officials with giving KC the game?
You've said it before. KC wins because they are lucky, Denver wins because they are good. You also admitted the tripping penalty was a bad call.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

You've said it before. KC wins because they are lucky, Denver wins because they are good. You also admitted the tripping penalty was a bad call.

That doesn't mean the Chiefs didn't have bad calls go against them.

And I was kidding. To assume that KC only wins because they are lucky is just ludicrous. I suppose you think everytime Denver loses it was because of the officials or "luck." :kiddingme

[BRONCCRUSHFAN]

That doesn't mean the Chiefs didn't have bad calls go against them.

And I was kidding. To assume that KC only wins because they are lucky is just ludicrous. I suppose you think everytime Denver loses it was because of the officials or "luck." :kiddingme
No just pointing out that you willingly admitted that the Queefs win because of help from the referees, at least in the case of the Fade game. It's your words not mine.

[R8RH8R]

Hilarious. That one-game lead in the divison you have is looking insurmountable.
How about a 2 game lead?