FWIW : Rumors has Priest Holmes with career ending injury?...placed on IR

[ROYC75]

According to some local KC stations, Priest has a golf ball size lump on his spine. I hate to see him go out like this, but if so , so be it. A mans health is always above the game.

Again, FWIW, nothing official as of yet.

[Clockwork Orange]

Hopefully it's just a rumor. I'd hate to see Priest go out that way.

[24champ]

Ill wait for the official word on his health, this isnt the first time rumors circulated about Preist being done.

[ROYC75]

It's been rumored for a week about the spine. He has been to 3 different doctors now.

I have a bad feeling about this one.

[ludo21]

Wow, that sux, i hope its just that, a rumor.

Good luck Priest. :thumbs:

[ROYC75]

Well, the top story on NBC Action News just 10 minutes ago was on this topic. Jack Harry, Sports Director for that station reported that he spoke with two higher sources within the Chiefs organization and they have said that Priest Holmes indeed may retire as early as tomorrow.

In Florida today, Holmes was getting a 3rd opinion on the hit he took from SD DE Shawn Merriman two weeks ago. Apparently what has been found is a lump on or within Priest's spine and if he were to take one more big hit, he would face certain paralysis.

This connects the dots on traveling the country getting checked out and now there are at least two people who are telling the same story. I am going to post this to the blogger as rumor and cite the Kansas CIty NBC Affiliate.

Tomorrow evening he is set to be on Kevin Kietzman's show on Sports Radio 810 WHB, the ESPN affiliate in KC. You may want to listen in tomorrow online all day to see what breaks

[SoCalBronco]

This is very sad. Priest has had an excellent career. Hopefully its not the case.

[ROYC75]

Priest has been giving hints the last few weeks about LJ being the better back now and the changing of the tourch......

I guess we will soon find out.

I hope it is all just rumors too, but like I said, I have a bad feeling about this one.

[Taco John]

Even after all of the "gimp" smack thrown out by Chiefs fans about Terrell Davis, I still feel bad about this if it's true.

[SoCalBronco]

Priest has been giving hints the last few weeks about LJ being the better back now and the changing of the tourch......

I guess we will soon find out.

I hope it is all just rumors too, but like I said, I have a bad feeling about this one.

Well, pretty much everyone railed on King Carl at the time and for a couple years after the fact, but it now appears that the selection of LJ may save the Chiefs season if in fact Priest does retire.

[watermock]

Well, even if it's the size of a marble, that's not happening...I don't want to see him go out like SuperMan Reeves.

He is a fine player, but so was Griffith...sometimes you cheat the devil, sometimes the devil cheats you.

Thanks for making me lose my hair Priest...the guy came back again and again and again all the way from back in Texas...he has nothing left to prove.

[24champ]

Even after all of the "gimp" smack thrown out by Chiefs fans about Terrell Davis, I still feel bad about this if it's true.
Really? Im not suprised the least bit.

[DomCasual]

Even after all of the "gimp" smack thrown out by Chiefs fans about Terrell Davis, I still feel bad about this if it's true.
I can feel sympathy for Priest Holmes and still think the typical KC fan is a schmuck. I am capable of separating the two quite nicely.

I admire Priest Holmes. He was basically thrown on the junk heap at one point, and ended up with a great career. He seems smart enough to put football into perspective, as it pertains to what is hopefully another fifty years of life.

Chiefs fans, I still don't care much for.

[Moon§hiner]

Sorry to see him go out like this if this proves factual...he has been a class act.

[minibronco]

get well soon. PRIEST.

[Mtbrncofn]

Very sad. I hope he doesn't have to go out like that. This year especially. Damnit, he's on both my FFL teams.
Any word on what exactly the lump is?

[Play2win]

One thing you don't mess with is the spine and the back...

My best wishes and hope he makes the right decision...

[Ratboy]

That does suck, You hate to see any player go down like that.

[Bronx33]

that sucks..

[Crushaholic]

Does that make Tony Richardson the backup tailback behind Larry?

[Rascal]

That sucks. Him and Carswell really puts things in perspective.

Hopefully he can get this fixed and live a normal life.

[SouthStndJunkie]

I hope this is not true.

If it is, Priest has had a very interesting career.

He overcame a lot to become a premier back in this league for several years. Injuries are the only thing that kept him from some super gaudy numbers.

SSJ

[Adam]

Does that make Tony Richardson the backup tailback behind Larry?

Yes.

[Pezman]

Much respect and admiration from a Broncos fan and a football fan. Priest may have been a damn dirty Chief in our minds, but he is a fantastic player worthy of saluting in our hearts.

If he is indeed done, at least he had an amazing career and nearly single-handedly brought back exciting football to the Chief franchise. Here's to one of the games great ones. Salute!

[Bob's your Information Minister]

Priest is done. :(

[Atlas]

He just signed a contract last year or the year before didn't he?? I imagine the cap hit is going to be pretty big. Of course instead of retiring the could just keep him on the injury list and pay his salary depending on whether or not they want to absorb the cap hit.

[listopencil]

That's too bad. I hadn't heard anything about this at all. I wish him good luck in his life after football. I'll drink a shot of quality scotch to him.

[SoCalBronco]

Priest is done. :(

Nothing's official yet, GoChiefs. Didnt Vermeil said he knew nothing about these rumors or something to that effect today?

[Bob's your Information Minister]

This has happened every time Priest has had a serious injury. I've seen this song and dance before.

I'd love to be wrong, but my gut feeling is Priest is done.

[DarkHorse]

Man I sure hope this turns out to be false - I haven't read the full thread yet but....

Here's to wishing Priest good health!

Good back, would hate to see his career end like this but his health and future are more important than any game.

[ROYC75]

Many unofficial reports are saying he will announce it tomorrow ?

It's full time LJ now, no more diapers.

[DarkHorse]

What are the Chief fans' thoughts on Johnson? Are they homering him up or is it a pretty honest assessment that 'perhaps' this guy can step up and be a full time back that actually contributes?

[Bronco9798]

Insiders at Arrowhead Stadium tell NBC Action News Sports Director Jack Harry that Priest Holmes, very possibly, has played his final game in a Chiefs uniform. One highly placed source tells Harry, Holmes could announce his retirement as soon as Thursday.

The 32 year old running back arrived back in town Tuesday night from Miami after undergoing some extensive testing on his spine. Doctors reportedly found a lump and should Holmes take a severe hit, he could become paralyzed. At his weekly press conference Tuesday, head coach Dick Vermeil indicated he didn't really know what was going on with Holmes.

Holmes has already undergone three knee-surgeries. He has failed to finish two of the last 3 seasons. He suffered the head injury in the San Diego game, and has now learned of this latest problem with his spine

[Old Dude]

You don't mess around with a condition like that. Time to hang 'em up.

[Hotrod]

What are the Chief fans' thoughts on Johnson? Are they homering him up or is it a pretty honest assessment that 'perhaps' this guy can step up and be a full time back that actually contributes?

First off if this is true I hope Priest hangs um up and lives a happy normal unpainful life. He was a class act and deserves respect of all NFL fans.

Darkhorse - Im not a chefs fan obviously ;D but Ive been saying since they drafted LJ that hes gonna be a monster back in the NFL. Hes gonna be a thorn in our side for many seasons to come.

[DarkHorse]

First off if this is true I hope Priest hangs um up and lives a happy normal unpainful life. He was a class act and deserves respect of all NFL fans.

Darkhorse - Im not a chefs fan obviously ;D but Ive been saying since they drafted LJ that hes gonna be a monster back in the NFL. Hes gonna be a thorn in our side for many seasons to come.


That's not good to hear. I don't follow college football so I really don't get to see what kind of athletic abilities or disabilities that these players come into the league with. As far as i'm concerned it's a clean slate from college to the "real" game - and superstars in college have more often than not, turned into a lot of nothing in the Pros.

Hope your take on Johnson is wrong LOL

[HEAV]

http://www.kshb.com/kshb/nw_local_news/article/0,1925,KSHB_9424_4224365,00.html

Priest Holmes' Career May Be Over
November 9, 2005

Insiders at Arrowhead Stadium tell NBC Action News Sports Director Jack Harry that Priest Holmes, very possibly, has played his final game in a Chiefs uniform. One highly placed source tells Harry, Holmes could announce his retirement as soon as Thursday.

The 32-year-old running back arrived back in town Tuesday night from Miami after undergoing some extensive testing on his spine. Doctors reportedly found a lump and should Holmes take a severe hit, he could become paralyzed. At his weekly press conference Tuesday, head coach Dick Vermeil indicated he didn't really know what was going on with Holmes.

Holmes has already undergone three knee surgeries. He has failed to finish two of the last 3 seasons. He suffered the head injury in the San Diego game, and has now learned of this latest problem with his spine.

[Hotrod]

That's not good to hear. I don't follow college football so I really don't get to see what kind of athletic abilities or disabilities that these players come into the league with. As far as i'm concerned it's a clean slate from college to the "real" game - and superstars in college have more often than not, turned into a lot of nothing in the Pros.

Hope your take on Johnson is wrong LOL

You and me both ^5

LJ has a great mix of both Power and speed and great balance and vision. Not sure about his catching ability out of the back field thou that might be abit suspect.

[Bronco9798]

You and me both ^5

LJ has a great mix of both Power and speed and great balance and vision. Not sure about his catching ability out of the back field thou that might be abit suspect.

Watch the final drive of the game Sunday with 19 seconds to go.......:(

[broncosteven]

I for one hope not to see him live out the rest of his days like Daryl Stingly (forgive my spelling I am in a hurry) but I will not miss seeing him show boat into the end zone.

I hope he does the right thing for him & his family I know he wanted to retire a few years back anyway. Good luck to you Priest.

[Hotrod]

Watch the final drive of the game Sunday with 19 seconds to go.......:(

Thats true althou it would have helped if a Faider was within 10-15 yards of him. That was a blown coverage the likes of which I hope we see on Sunday !Booya!

Actually we need a chef fan to verify this but I do think hes had some drops on screens and outs this year if Im not mistaken.

[broncosteven]

You and me both ^5

LJ has a great mix of both Power and speed and great balance and vision. Not sure about his catching ability out of the back field thou that might be abit suspect.


LJ does get crushed in backfield a lot more than priest ever did. He has more break away speed but priest had rare vision & a brusing running style & could get something out of nothing where as LJ sees a rush coming & craps down his leg.

[Hotrod]

LJ does get crushed in backfield a lot more than priest ever did. He has more break away speed but priest had rare vision & a brusing running style & could get something out of nothing where as LJ sees a rush coming & craps down his leg.

I wish I could agree with you. Remember hes had limited starts/carries todate. He will get more comfortable with the Oline and I see him as a pro-bowl player next season. Again I hope Im dead wrong but Im pretty high on this kid. Just look at his #'s as a role player behind Priest those will even get better once hes handed the reins.

[Bronco9798]

LJ does get crushed in backfield a lot more than priest ever did. He has more break away speed but priest had rare vision & a brusing running style & could get something out of nothing where as LJ sees a rush coming & craps down his leg.

Priest was the ultimate in pateince and following his blockers. Tony Richardson is the man in that backfield that deserves a lot of the credit. Priest rode his tail for many yards. Priest was a smart runner. LJ is quick to the seam and once he gets to the second level, he's usually on his own. LJ will only get better unfortuntely.

[ROYC75]

LJ is speed and power, he has no fear. Only takes an opening and he is gone. Speed to hit it and power to shake off a tackle or hit.

Priest was more finesse. Was OK when our line was dominate.

[ROYC75]

Thats true althou it would have helped if a Faider was within 10-15 yards of him. That was a blown coverage the likes of which I hope we see on Sunday !Booya!

Actually we need a chef fan to verify this but I do think hes had some drops on screens and outs this year if Im not mistaken.


Dead on ..... has much upside.

[Ray Finkle]

Great RB....even better person..

[NaptownChief]

LJ sees a rush coming & craps down his leg.


That is nothing more than biased bronco bunk....LJ runs hard and would just as soon run over someone as to run around them. He is big, fast, strong and runs angry. His 1 TD per 14.9 touches is among the best in the league.

[Old Dude]

LJ is a good back. Like Bell, he could stand a lot of improvemment as a receiver. And he's not as potent on the perimeter as Holmes was. But he's a good solid power runner.

The Chiefs bigger problem right now is probably the offensive line. Age and injuries are starting to take their toll.

And that defense still has some serious issues.

[Rascal]

Is LJ durable? Running the way he does he is going to get injured a lot.

[maven]

In Florida today, Holmes was getting a 3rd opinion on the hit he took from SD DE Shawn Merriman two weeks ago. Apparently what has been found is a lump on or within Priest's spine and if he were to take one more big hit, he would face certain paralysis.

This connects the dots on traveling the country getting checked out and now there are at least two people who are telling the same story. I am going to post this to the blogger as rumor and cite the Kansas CIty NBC Affiliate.

Tomorrow evening he is set to be on Kevin Kietzman's show on Sports Radio 810 WHB, the ESPN affiliate in KC. You may want to listen in tomorrow online all day to see what breaks

Time to hang it up & move on Priest.

[NaptownChief]

Is LJ durable? Running the way he does he is going to get injured a lot.


Definitely a big unknown....Since he was only the feature back for just one season in college and yet to be a full time feature back for a full season in the NFL. The good news is his body hasn't taken no where near the pounding that most would have by his age but we won't know if he is durable over the long haul for a while.

[Hotrod]

LJ is a good back. Like Bell, he could stand a lot of improvemment as a receiver. And he's not as potent on the perimeter as Holmes was. But he's a good solid power runner.

The Chiefs bigger problem right now is probably the offensive line. Age and injuries are starting to take their toll.

And that defense still has some serious issues.

Thats the good news for Bronco fans. This offseason we get to watch KC spend their FA $ on Olineman instead of that D. !Booya!

[Old Dude]

I don't know about injuries, but he has a fairly upright running style that can result in a stripped ball now and then.

I really think the bigger problem will be in the passing game.

With all the problems on the line, Gonzales has been used as more of a blocker this year. That didn't hurt the Chiefs too badly, since Holmes effectively became the #2 receiver.

But I don't think LJ brings the same dimension. So the Chiefs are probably going to have to make greater use of Gonzo in the passing game and let the chips fall where they may with that O-Line.

[NaptownChief]

Thats the good news for Bronco fans. This offseason we get to watch KC spend their FA $ on Olineman instead of that D. !Booya!


I hope that Olineman money goes to Steve Hutchinson.

[Hotrod]

I would suspect an early RB selection from the chefs in the draft. After LJ there is nothing worth mention. Maybe you can pick up MoC ;D

[NaptownChief]

I would suspect an early RB selection from the chefs in the draft. After LJ there is nothing worth mention. Maybe you can pick up MoC ;D



Probably will grab a legend off the street like Q.Griffin. ;D

[Mile High Shack]

I hope that Olineman money goes to Steve Hutchinson.

you honestly think the Hawks are going to let him go?

[maven]

you honestly think the Hawks are going to let him go?

The seachickens will finally spend the money on Alexander, and re-sign Hutch. Hutch isn't going anywhere.

[Hotrod]

Probably will grab a legend off the street like Q.Griffin. ;D

LOL heck if you just want someone who can get arm tackled in your backfield just put the no-factor back there and save the $.......

[NaptownChief]

you honestly think the Hawks are going to let him go?



Not by choice but they could have their hands full coming up with Alexander money...Just ponied up heavy for Walter Jones and Hass before this season so it probably won't be a slam dunk that they will be able to pay him. My guess is they will certainly try to keep him and the fact they have a gentlemens agreement with Alexander that they won't tag him again increases the chances that Hutch could get the tag.

[Mile High Shack]

Not by choice but they could have their hands full coming up with Alexander money...Just ponied up heavy for Walter Jones and Hass before this season so it probably won't be a slam dunk that they will be able to pay him. My guess is they will certainly try to keep him and the fact they have a gentlemens agreement with Alexander that they won't tag him again increases the chances that Hutch could get the tag.

yeah, that is what I'm thinking

and if Seattle doesn't resign him, I hear he loves the Mountains, so he'll come to Denver (ok, no not really, but I can hope)

[broncosteven]

Priest was the ultimate in pateince and following his blockers. Tony Richardson is the man in that backfield that deserves a lot of the credit. Priest rode his tail for many yards. Priest was a smart runner. LJ is quick to the seam and once he gets to the second level, he's usually on his own. LJ will only get better unfortuntely.

That is why he has a long of 46 this year? I don't see anything special in this guy. he gets caught too many times behind the line & with out someone to share the load I bet he wears down in games. He has not proven to me to get stronger in games sure he had a long pass reception late against the Faid but I could have ran that far if left uncoverd also, the TD was all his Oline blocking. Chefs now need Oline help & need to Draft another HB! Plus remake their WEAK D!

[broncosteven]

That is nothing more than biased bronco bunk....LJ runs hard and would just as soon run over someone as to run around them. He is big, fast, strong and runs angry. His 1 TD per 14.9 touches is among the best in the league.


If you look at stats he is no Tatum Bell!

[bendog]

RB isn't their biggest whole, not evne if Priest's a gimp

[NaptownChief]

If you look at stats he is no Tatum Bell!



That is for sure....If the Chiefs had Tatum Bell instead of LJ they would have had to kick the FG at the end of the Raider game. No way they could count on Bell to get short yardage.

[Broncoman13]

LJ is a very good back. He's strong and very fast. He'll only go up. He was avg. close to 7 yards per carry at one point. That will probably go down a bit with a full 20-25 carries per game... but he's still good for 5-5.5 per carry.

[Bronx33]

That is for sure....If the Chiefs had Tatum Bell instead of LJ they would have had to kick the FG at the end of the Raider game. No way they could count on Bell to get short yardage.

Anderson would punch it in...and dickie has no faith in his D.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

When was the last time a Denver back leapt over the goal line like Priest and LJ do?

[Bronx33]

When was the last time a Denver back leapt over the goal line like Priest and LJ do?

http://img274.imageshack.us/img274/4447/img86834mk.jpg


And who cares if you dive or just simply run it in.

[CBF1]

When is the last time the chefs won a playoff game or SB?

[bronco militia]

j/c, this place gets dumber with every Broncos win.

[broncosteven]

When was the last time a Denver back leapt over the goal line like Priest and LJ do?

No Bronco back has ever Show boated in like priest does. I am glad that bronco backs do have TD runs longer than 35 or 45 yds! TB has a 68 ydr this year.

Anderson does have some short yardage TD's this year. In addition to the 68 & 44 ydr's (i think the 44 yrd came against the Chefs....mmmmm..)

[Smiling Assassin27]

Apologies if this was posted already...

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2218651

[Crushaholic]

Apologies if this was posted already...

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2218651

I understand that Priest wants to play again. However, if he's risking paralysis with another big hit, it's not worth it...

[Old Dude]

So now it may have gone from career ending to season ending ...

... and maybe not even that.

We should probably just wait for Vermeil's press conference.

[broncosteven]

So now it may have gone from career ending to season ending ...

... and maybe not even that.

We should probably just wait for Vermeil's press conference.


BYOK

Bring your own Kleenex!

[Bob's your Information Minister]

http://img274.imageshack.us/img274/4447/img86834mk.jpg


And who cares if you dive or just simply run it in.

Sometimes diving is the only way to get in. Emmitt Smith and Walter Payton come to mind.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

Priest is pretty amazing. I have seen him dive over the line on 3rd-and-2 and get the first down.

[bendog]

Last Rites?

(I had to, I apologize, but I had to.)

[Mr. Trout]

Too bad for Priest. The guy is pretty classy. Larry Johnson lead me to the fantasy promise land baby.

[Crushaholic]

Sometimes diving is the only way to get in. Emmitt Smith and Walter Payton come to mind.

Diving into the endzone is overrated. I would rather Denver run another play to get in the endzone. Like, maybe, the BOOTLEG!!!:~ohyah!:

[broncosteven]

Priest is pretty amazing. I have seen him dive over the line on 3rd-and-2 and get the first down.


Diving causes lumps to develop on your spine!

Running in open field un touched for 68 yards does not.

[broncosteven]

Priest is pretty amazing. I have seen him dive over the line on 3rd-and-2 and get the first down.

Chef fans sure get real excited about "Diving" for extra "INCHES". Hilarious!

[ScotchTanShan]

Diving causes lumps to develop on your spine!

Running in open field un touched for 68 yards does not.


Nice comment, dick. You must be a kid b/c no one of any maturity would make a joke of this of all things. At least you can revel in your masked homophobia and worry about taking on extra inches.

[Atlas]

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Nice comment, dick. You must be a kid b/c no one of any maturity would make a joke of this of all things. At least you can revel in your masked homophobia and worry about taking on extra inches.

The Priest needs last rites

[Rascal]

Schefter is reporting that he will be placed on IR.

[Rascal]

Diving causes lumps to develop on your spine!

Running in open field un touched for 68 yards does not.

That's a BS response. thwack

You have medical reports/analysis to back up that comment or are you just talking out of your ass.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

Adam Schefter is reporting that Priest Holmes is on IR.

[El Minion]

Kffl reports:

Chiefs | Holmes Not Retiring, But Will Go on IR
Wed, 9 Nov 2005 12:44:47 -0800

Jay Glazer, of FOXSports.com, reports Kansas City Chiefs RB Priest Holmes (head, shoulder) will be placed on Injured Reserve Wednesday, Nov. 9. Holmes will be re-evaluated by team doctors in 30 days. Team officials have said that a report that Holmes would retire as early as Wednesday is false.


Chiefs | Griffin to Work Out
Wed, 9 Nov 2005 12:40:52 -0800

Jay Glazer, of FOXSports.com, reports the Kansas City Chiefs will be working out free agent RB Quentin Griffin (Broncos).

[ScotchTanShan]

they already worked out QG.... I'm not all that enthused but I'll give him at least the benefit of the doubt - if Shanny is some "RB guru" and picked him, there has to be something, yes??? Maybe he'll turn out to flourish like Deltha once he's out of the box by the rocks.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

I'm depressed.

[broncosteven]

That's a BS response. thwack

You have medical reports/analysis to back up that comment or are you just talking out of your ass.


Boob pissed me off & I was talking out of my ass. Earlier in thread I said I hope that Priest does not end up like Darrel Stingly & wish him & his famliy the best.

[Mastermind2002]

Very sorry to hear about this. I never want anyone's career cut short.

[El Minion]

Don't know if this has been posted, FWIW:

POSTED 1:11 p.m. EST, November 9, 2005

STORM BREWING BETWEEN HOLMES, CHIEFS?

With rumors and reports now rampant regarding the future of Chiefs running back Priest Holmes, we've confirmed that there is indeed a very real question as to whether Holmes will ever play again, even as the team dismisses the notion that Priest might be done.

Based on what we're hearing, we also think that the situation could get very ugly, very quickly.

The organization believes that there's nothing wrong with Holmes' back, and that his absence traces to a head injury suffered at San Diego. Still, the specialist Holmes saw on Friday isn't a neurologist, but a back and neck guy.

Despite what the team is saying, we hear that Holmes is telling teammates that he won't play again this year, and we're also told that the organization quietly is preparing for life without him.

If Holmes retires, look for the team to try to recover a big chunk of the $10.1 signing/option bonus he received in connection with a 2003 contract extension, which ties him to the Chiefs through 2009. His better course of action, in our view, would be to obtain medical certification regarding his inability to play if, as reported, he has a lump on his spine that could lead to serious injury.

Things will get interesting, of course, if the Chiefs' doctors say he's fit play and Holmes' own physicians conclude otherwise.

And there's a twist that could make the situation even more problematic for all parties. Holmes, we hear, blames his current health condition on coach Dick Vermeil's relentless approach to practices, which is burning Holmes out.

So, in the end, Holmes could walk away not because of any health concern, but simply because he's had enough of Dickie Ball.

Stay tuned.

http://www.profootballtalk.com/rumormill.htm

[Bob's your Information Minister]

More garbage from PFT.

[broncosteven]

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Nice comment, dick. You must be a kid b/c no one of any maturity would make a joke of this of all things. At least you can revel in your masked homophobia and worry about taking on extra inches.

Diving on your head does have to cause some kind of spinal/head trauma after a while. I admit to being baited by Boob but the comment was not directed to Priest but to Boob's posts precending them. He was making a big deal about... you read the thread....

[Garcia Bronco]

Don't know if this has been posted, FWIW:

POSTED 1:11 p.m. EST, November 9, 2005

STORM BREWING BETWEEN HOLMES, CHIEFS?

With rumors and reports now rampant regarding the future of Chiefs running back Priest Holmes, we've confirmed that there is indeed a very real question as to whether Holmes will ever play again, even as the team dismisses the notion that Priest might be done.

Based on what we're hearing, we also think that the situation could get very ugly, very quickly.

The organization believes that there's nothing wrong with Holmes' back, and that his absence traces to a head injury suffered at San Diego. Still, the specialist Holmes saw on Friday isn't a neurologist, but a back and neck guy.

Despite what the team is saying, we hear that Holmes is telling teammates that he won't play again this year, and we're also told that the organization quietly is preparing for life without him.

If Holmes retires, look for the team to try to recover a big chunk of the $10.1 signing/option bonus he received in connection with a 2003 contract extension, which ties him to the Chiefs through 2009. His better course of action, in our view, would be to obtain medical certification regarding his inability to play if, as reported, he has a lump on his spine that could lead to serious injury.

Things will get interesting, of course, if the Chiefs' doctors say he's fit play and Holmes' own physicians conclude otherwise.

And there's a twist that could make the situation even more problematic for all parties. Holmes, we hear, blames his current health condition on coach Dick Vermeil's relentless approach to practices, which is burning Holmes out.

So, in the end, Holmes could walk away not because of any health concern, but simply because he's had enough of Dickie Ball.

Stay tuned.

http://www.profootballtalk.com/rumormill.htm


If he can't play again...and they bang him up for his bonus....well...that's just trashy...after he put them on the map.

[Bronx33]

Good luck to feather boy QG.....

[Bronx33]

If he can't play again...and they bang him up for his bonus....well...that's just trashy...after he put them on the map.

What else would you expect from nattie nation.

[watermock]

We had to play TD his full bonus when he couldn't play anymore...it seems like yesterday we finally even got that off the books...why is Priest any different...to make the assinine assertion he's tanking and faking is totally ludicrous and pathetic. If anyone ISN'T a quitter it's Priest...just because he's not blind and denying he's near his twilight doesn't mean squat. And just because he made the comment that RB's in the NFL are 22, not 32 doesn't either.

[El Minion]

More garbage from PFT.

If PFT was, then why would they get an exclusive interview with Nick Saban:

POSTED 2:15 p.m. EDT, August 22, 2005

"So you're the guys who rip everybody, right?"

That question didn't come from Dolphins coach Nick Saban, but from Team Security Investigator Stu Weinstein, who was stationed outside Grand Ballroom #1 at the Pittsburgh Marriott City Center on Friday afternoon while Saban attended a production meeting for the television and radio coverage of Miami's preseason game against the Steelers.

"Yeah, I guess we are," I replied.

Great, I thought, this guy's gonna kick my ass before Saban ever gets a chance to do it personally....

The rest here: http://www.profootballtalk.com/sabaninterview.htm

[Rascal]

I don't care if PFT says the earth is a sphere I wouldn't believe them.

[24champ]

And there's a twist that could make the situation even more problematic for all parties. Holmes, we hear, blames his current health condition on coach Dick Vermeil's relentless approach to practices, which is burning Holmes out.

So, in the end, Holmes could walk away not because of any health concern, but simply because he's had enough of Dickie Ball.


Dick 4meal is practicing his players extremely hard? Something tells me this is dick4meals last year as a Queef, Norv Turner will be gone, Marty could get tossed if the Chargers blow it. Essentially we could be looking at 3 new coaches next year in the Division.

[broncosteven]

Good luck to feather boy QG.....


I sure hope Chefs sign Q. Would love to see Warren on top of him 5 yds behind the line of scrimmage.

I would also like to see Q DIVING on 3rd & 2 to try to pick up the 2 yds he should be able to pick up an inch or 2 if not hit in back field.

Man you guys have no sense of humor here...

[ro_50]

I just hope and pray he's ok. This is more than a football game, the sport.

It's a person's well being.

The media are bunch of idiots BTW when handling stories like this.

[Rascal]

30 days minimum...maybe longer. Docs say it's not career-threatening, but they recommended a 30-day wait.

Per press conference...

[broncosteven]

30 days minimum...maybe longer. Docs say it's not career-threatening, but they recommended a 30-day wait.

Per press conference...


If he goes on IR he is done for year. All that is left for him to review is if he will retire this year or try to come back next year. If it is only a bruise he should be back but if Chefs screw up his deal & cut him what team will want an old (for his pos) RB with back problems? Chefs will have other turn over anyway as I don't see Vermin-eel sticking around another year. A new coach will want his own guys anyway.

[Rascal]

they said to reevaluate him in 30 days but they went ahead and put him on IR. That doesn't make sense. Keep him off till the 30 days and then see what happens.

[Crushaholic]

they said to reevaluate him in 30 days but they went ahead and put him on IR. That doesn't make sense. Keep him off till the 30 days and then see what happens.

I'm guessing the Cheaps made this IR move so it doesn't become a distraction for the rest of the season...

[Rascal]

Doesn't matter their season will be over in week 17 anyway.

[Rascal]

I'm guessing the Cheaps made this IR move so it doesn't become a distraction for the rest of the season...

I don't see how it would be a distraction, plus he will be traveling with the team and what not so it's not like he is going away. been the same if he wasn't placed on IR.

[broncosteven]

I don't see how it would be a distraction, plus he will be traveling with the team and what not so it's not like he is going away. been the same if he wasn't placed on IR.


Sounded like they wanted to reclaim his bonus $ that would become a distraction!

[Hotrod]

Sounded like they wanted to reclaim his bonus $ that would become a distraction!

They have to run the team like a business just like I do my fantasy team. Im currently finalizing a trade to send Holmes to an unexpecting owner in return for TO. What a fool this guy is Ha!

[Mtbrncofn]

They have to run the team like a business just like I do my fantasy team. Im currently finalizing a trade to send Holmes to an unexpecting owner in return for TO. What a fool this guy is Ha!


Ha! You crack me up.

[Raidersbane]

KANSAS CITY, Mo. (AP) - Kansas City Chiefs running back Priest Holmes will miss the rest of the season after consulting with three experts on spinal-injuries.

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Kansas City Chiefs head coach Dick Vermeil reacts to losing star running back Priest Holmes for the rest of the year.


A helmet-to-helmet blow he absorbed on Oct. 30 against San Diego was the most recent problem for the 32-year-old running back. But coach Dick Vermeil said Wednesday signs of trouble first showed up when Holmes developed tingling in his hands during training camp.
Holmes, 32, a three-time Pro Bowler whose 66 touchdowns between 2002-2004 are an NFL record for any three-year span, was placed on injured reserve. Doctors had recommended he avoid any contact at all for a minimum of 30 days.

He is not incapacitated and no surgery is planned, said general manager Carl Peterson.


Priest Holmes will not play again for Kansas City this season. (Brian Bahr / Getty Images)

"It's a head trauma and a neck trauma that has affected the cervical area of his spine," Peterson said. "But he's not incapacitated. There's no reason for surgery."

A statement from Dr. Jon Browne, the Chiefs' team physician, said no permanent damage had occurred either to the head or neck and that Holmes would be re-evaluated in 30 days.

Peterson also said doctors were not concerned about the possibility of paralysis should Holmes continue playing, and that Holmes indicated he planned to resume his career next season.

Injuries have caused the Chiefs' career rushing leader to cut short two of his last three seasons. But he has shown flashes of his old self while rushing for 451 yards and six touchdowns on 119 carries. He also has 21 catches for 197 yards, including a 60-yard catch-and-run for a touchdown in a victory over Washington on Oct. 16.

"We're going to miss him," coach Dick Vermeil said. "He's more than a football player for this organization."

Vermeil said there seemed no reason for undue concern when Holmes experienced the tingling in training camp.

"We did know he started getting what we say 'burners' once in a while, a tingling in his fingers from some hits, which are very, very common," Vermeil said. "Guys get burners in the first quarter and play the rest of the game. But he had never experienced that in his career.

"Then I think the blow to the head in San Diego stimulated more concern. It wasn't a true concussion, but he did get knocked dizzy."

The Chiefs will now turn to Holmes' backup, Larry Johnson, who has averaged 5.2 yards per carry, with 506 yards on 97 attempts. Johnson had two touchdowns in the 27-23 victory Sunday over Oakland, including a 1-yard vault on the final play of the game. He has frequently complained he was not being given enough carries. Johnson rushed for 541 yards and nine touchdowns while Holmes sat out the final six games last year.

"Larry Johnson has already carried the load. He knows he can do it," Vermeil said. "He just doesn't have a Priest Holmes backing him up like he backed up Priest Holmes."

Holmes missed last week's game against Oakland and in the past two weeks has seen spinal-injury specialists in California and Florida. Speculation had been rampant he would be out for an extended period, although the Chiefs (5-3) said they were hopeful he would soon return to the lineup.

"We're going to miss him," said defensive end Jared Allen. "We love him. But he's got to do what's best for him personally. Head injuries can be tricky things."

Earlier Wednesday, the team denied the injury would lead to Holmes' retirement. Television station KSHB reported Wednesday that doctors found a lump on Holmes' spine and were concerned about possible paralysis should he take a direct hit. Citing a highly placed source it didn't identify, the station said Holmes could announce his retirement as soon as Thursday.

But both the team and an employee at the firm run by Holmes' agent, Todd France, rejected suggestions Holmes would retire because of the injury.

"All the speculation, television, the media throwing things out all shook him up," Vermeil said of Holmes. "Someone said he had a tumor on his spine. He thought it was very unfair."

Well that sucks........I hate to see this even when it's a division rival.

[Raidersbane]

I see now that links for the above were already posted.......my bad.

[crazyhorse]

I know that it was probably wishful thinking. I could feel your fear. I wondered if you had your fingers crossed when you made statements of my career being over. I remember you saying I lost a step.

http://www.ceebz.com/home/users/ceebz/Chiefs/holmes2003_106mb.wmv

Thanks for your support.

Sincerely
Priest Holmes

[crazyhorse]

I know that it was probably wishful thinking. I could feel your fear. I wondered if you had your fingers crossed when you made statements of my career being over. I remember you saying I lost a step.

http://www.ceebz.com/home/users/ceeb...2003_106mb.wmv

Thanks for your support.

Sincerely
Priest Holmes

[BroncoBuff]

I know that it was probably wishful thinking. I could feel your fear. I wondered if you had your fingers crossed when you made statements of my career being over. I remember you saying I lost a step.

http://www.ceebz.com/home/users/ceeb...2003_106mb.wmv

Thanks for your support.

Sincerely
Priest Holmes
Yo, Priest!

Bad link, pal!

[crazyhorse]

Yo, Priest!

Bad link, pal!

It's working for me.

I appreciate how you keep hiding this thread here though. It shows guts. As I have tried to post it as a thread starter twice, and it has nothing to do with Priest 2005 season ending injury.

I thought it was gutless the 1st time it was done. But twice. What is this, finheaven?


Try to right click and save if it doesn't work. But I had no problem with the link.

[Bronx33]

It's working for me.

I appreciate how you keep hiding this thread here though. It shows guts. As I have tried to post it as a thread starter twice, and it has nothing to do with Priest 2005 season ending injury.

I thought it was gutless the 1st time it was done. But twice. What is this, finheaven?


Try to right click and save if it doesn't work. But I had no problem with the link.

Are you on the verge of a dickie damp eye seizure?

[broncosteven]

Try this link: http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showthread.php?p=834809#post834809

That link is very disrespectful to the memory of preists career. The man was a saint on & off the field he will surely be missed! You must be a teenaged boy who has no class at all!

LOL


That is pricelesss The pick of the 3 dogs with bad teeth I meant.

[BroncoBuff]

Hey, Horsey!

I figured out your problem . . . see the ellipses between "ceeb" and "2003"?

That's a 'shortened' version of the link . . . if your browser has auto-complete, and
it's been there, you're OK - but anybody else's browser doesn't know whats missing in that " . . . . "

Horsey! One more thing! Try this link: http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showthread.php?p=834809#post834809

[broncosteven]

Hey, Horsey!

I figured out your problem . . . see the ellipses between "ceeb" and "2003"?

That's a 'shortened' version of the link . . . if your browser has auto-complete, and
it's been there, you're OK - but anybody else's browser doesn't know whats missing in that " . . . . "

Horsey! One more thing! Try this link: http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showthread.php?p=834809#post834809


Apollo moon landings went from July 1969 through 1972 what was his point? SB IV was in like 1970 or something. I remember seeing Apollo 17 in orbit as it was a night launch & we lived in NM at the time & my mom draged us out to see them orbit as they prepared for the TLI burn to leave earth orbit but that was in 1972 a few years after the Chefs had won SB. I remember watching cowboys lose to colts that was SB V I think but only vague memories of Morton getting crushed. I watched alot of the Apollo 17 mission & loved the moon buggy but that was in 1972 a few years after the Chefs had won their only SB. Then I watched the Apollo Soyus mission but that was in 75 & it was lame compared to moon landings, that was like 4-5 years after Chefs had won their only SB victory....

[BroncoBuff]

Apollo moon landings went from July 1969 through 1972 what was his point? SB IV was in like 1970 or something. I remember seeing Apollo 17 in orbit as it was a night launch & we lived in NM at the time & my mom draged us out to see them orbit as they prepared for the TLI burn to leave earth orbit but that was in 1972 a few years after the Chefs had won SB. I remember watching cowboys lose to colts that was SB V I think but only vague memories of Morton getting crushed. I watched alot of the Apollo 17 mission & loved the moon buggy but that was in 1972 a few years after the Chefs had won their only SB. Then I watched the Apollo Soyus mission but that was in 75 & it was lame compared to moon landings, that was like 4-5 years after Chefs had won their only SB victory....
Actually I think he just screwed up.

But I covered my bases before I attacked . . . I went on both the NASA and NFL Super Bowl websites before I was certain:

JETS' SB: JANUARY '69
APOLLO 11: JULY '69

[crazyhorse]

Actually I think he just screwed up.

But I covered my bases before I attacked . . . I went on both the NASA and NFL Super Bowl websites before I was certain:

JETS' SB: JANUARY '69
APOLLO 11: JULY '69

Actually, the information you are refering to was submitted by a bronco fan in a previous post. The meat of the point was that from the time the Chiefs won the Superbowl, until the Broncos finally won, there was a huge chunk of history passing by.

Challenging me on a history basis, was merely a weak attempt to discredit the point of the post. Unfortunately, you didn't get the point. But, in the "covering of the bases before you attacked" you were able to discredit the original poster of those facts. Your Bronco brother thanks you I am sure.

BTW. We still beat you to the SB by 30 years. Check that for accuracy.

[Bronx33]

Actually, the information you are refering to was submitted by a bronco fan in a previous post. The meat of the point was that from the time the Chiefs won the Superbowl, until the Broncos finally won, there was a huge chunk of history passing by.

Challenging me on a history basis, was merely a weak attempt to discredit the point of the post. Unfortunately, you didn't get the point. But, in the "covering of the bases before you attacked" you were able to discredit the original poster of those facts. Your Bronco brother thanks you I am sure.

BTW. We still beat you to the SB by 30 years. Check that for accuracy.


Crazy is a certified chefologist, fear him.....

[broncosteven]

BTW. We still beat you to the SB by 30 years. Check that for accuracy.


That is great hope that one win & 2 trips total keeps the fire burning for you. I know having 6 trips & 2 wins back to back were nice to have as a fan.

[crazyhorse]

Crazy is a cerified chefologist, fear him.....

Dont be afraid. I will be gentle.

[Bronx33]

That is great hope that one win & 2 trips total keeps the fire burning for you. I know having 6 trips & 2 wins back to back were nice to have as a fan.

Crazy is taking credit for a SB win and he didn't even know what a football was, if he was even born that is.

[broncosteven]

Actually I think he just screwed up.

But I covered my bases before I attacked . . . I went on both the NASA and NFL Super Bowl websites before I was certain:

JETS' SB: JANUARY '69
APOLLO 11: JULY '69


I love the space program you should have just PM'ed me. That is Gene Kranz on my Avatar he was the Flight Director for Mission control through Apollo, Gene Rocks! Apollo 13 was one hell of an achievement Jim Lovell is on the big screen in the background.

[Bronx33]

I love the space program you should have just PM'ed me. That is Gene Kranz on my Avatar he was the Flight Director for Mission control through Apollo, Gene Rocks! Apollo 13 was one hell of an achievement Jim Lovell is on the big screen in the background.

My old man wa an engineer at martin marrietta i meet jack swigert several times i also has his autographed picture.

[crazyhorse]

That is great hope that one win & 2 trips total keeps the fire burning for you. I know having 6 trips & 2 wins back to back were nice to have as a fan.

Hey, if 30+ years and nothing keeps your fire burning, I will try to appreciate getting on the board early

I never said anything about being satisfied. I was responding to someone that thought the SB was invented in 1998. Perhaps if you go back and see the original reference, you wont come off as stupid.


At least....there's a chance.

[BroncoBuff]

Crazy is a certified chefologist, fear him.....
Maybe - but he was wrong about the Apollo stuff !

[Bronx33]

[QUOTE=BroncoBuff1]Maybe - but he was wrong about the Apollo stuff ![/QUOTE


I forgot to insert sarcasm into that post....:laugh:

[broncosteven]

My old man wa an engineer at martin marrietta i meet jack swigert several times i also has his autographed picture.

That is cool! I stop by his statue at the Denver airport on my way home after every bronco game. Those guys had Stones! Can you imagine floating in a can for 5 days freezing your ass off & fighting problems every couple of minutes? I know most of those guys (even the Mission control guys) were all fighter jocks & lived facing death either by enemy or by testing new air craft but I really respect those guys in apollo & gemni on ground & air.

You will have to show me the pic some year when I come out for a game.

[broncosteven]

Hey, if 30+ years and nothing keeps your fire burning, I will try to appreciate getting on the board early

I never said anything about being satisfied. I was responding to someone that thought the SB was invented in 1998. Perhaps if you go back and see the original reference, you wont come off as stupid.


At least....there's a chance.


You love your team that is great I love mine. I would hold off crowing about Sb's at least until you Mullet heads go back to back or better though or at least win more than 2.

[Bronx33]

That is cool! I stop by his statue at the Denver airport on my way home after every bronco game. Those guys had Stones! Can you imagine floating in a can for 5 days freezing your ass off & fighting problems every couple of minutes? I know most of those guys (even the Mission control guys) were all fighter jocks & lived facing death either by enemy or by testing new air craft but I really respect those guys in apollo & gemni on ground & air.

You will have to show me the pic some year when I come out for a game.


When i saw the movie it really hit me who i had really meet, also my father in law was one of those peeps in the control room.

[watermock]

I remember when the Chefs won the SB...that was before Keith Richards was on oxygen and Nixon was trying to get out of Vietnam...

It's more than a generation ago! They haven't won crap in the modern era! Sit down in the corner and put the dunce cap on.

[Smiling Assassin27]

Not only have they not won a superbowl, they haven't even BEEN to a superbowl! That's futility at its worst. At least Denver had a few cracks at it before they went back to back. The Chefs haven't even got a sniff.

[crazyhorse]

Not only have they not won a superbowl, they haven't even BEEN to a superbowl! That's futility at its worst. At least Denver had a few cracks at it before they went back to back. The Chefs haven't even got a sniff.

Yeah but you guys had to cheat. That dont count.

The most memberable SB the Broncos have ever been a part of, the score was 55-10.

But hey, at least you didn't cheat.

[Bronx33]

Yeah but you guys had to cheat. That dont count.

The most memberable SB the Broncos have ever been a part of, the score was 55-10.

But hey, at least you didn't cheat.


Captain! i do beleive he is deflecting

http://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:tZfakRu1VxwJ:www.etek.chalmers.se/%7Ee5tomase/spock.jpg

[Smiling Assassin27]

Yeah but you guys had to cheat. That dont count.

The most memberable SB the Broncos have ever been a part of, the score was 55-10.

But hey, at least you didn't cheat.


Really? We cheated to appear in more Superbowls than the Chiefs? Last i checked, we had been to 4 before the 'cheating' took place, no? What's your excuse now?

[enjolras]

wow.. super bowl smack from the Chefs.

They haven't even won a SINGLE playoff game in a decade and they want to talk.. amazing.

[redrage]

wow.. super bowl smack from the Chefs.

They haven't even won a SINGLE playoff game in a decade and they want to talk.. amazing.
Careful. Denver's starting to tread into that territory.

[crazyhorse]

Really? We cheated to appear in more Superbowls than the Chiefs? Last i checked, we had been to 4 before the 'cheating' took place, no? What's your excuse now?

55-10 is disappearing.

The Bills have been to 4 SBs? Congratulations, you were the Bills until you cheated. The difference is the Bills went to 4 straight. But then the Broncos own the record for the worst ass whipping in SB history.

You should be proud.

If it makes you feel any better, I would buy a SB too if it only cost me a couple million dollars and a couple 3rd rounders.

[Bronx33]

Another page in chefology is being written as we speak....

[broncosteven]

Yeah but you guys had to cheat. That dont count.

The most memberable SB the Broncos have ever been a part of, the score was 55-10.

But hey, at least you didn't cheat.


Whatever it takes to make you feel good about rooting for your loser team. Maybe you can get Marty back when Dick Vermin-eel retires so he can fake another punt & the Broncos can advance to the AFC Championship game again.

[broncosteven]

When i saw the movie it really hit me who i had really meet, also my father in law was one of those peeps in the control room.


That is awesome, can I buy that man a beer? Getting a man to the moon is one thing but bringing back a crippled ship was really something with no rescue options!