View Full Version : Ever read the NFL Collective Bargaining Agreement?
Taco John
11-07-2005, 11:29 AM
Here is the whole thing:
http://www.nflpa.org/Members/main.asp?subPage=CBA+Complete
Rock Chalk
11-07-2005, 11:30 AM
Why don't you sum up?
DomCasual
11-07-2005, 11:30 AM
Here is the whole thing:
http://www.nflpa.org/Members/main.asp?subPage=CBA+Complete
Dude, you need a hobby.
Bronx33
11-07-2005, 11:30 AM
Dude, you need a hobby.
Your posting on it....
Taco John
11-07-2005, 11:35 AM
I'm reading that whole bitch tonight... Got it printing now... :D
missingnumber7
11-07-2005, 11:36 AM
Taco...I expect a full report on my desk tomorrow morning 9 am sharp.
Taco John
11-07-2005, 11:38 AM
Yikes... It's over 250 pages...
Cancel print job... I'm taking this one to the library...
Mediator12
11-07-2005, 02:09 PM
Yep. What do you want to hate about it first?
Bronco_Beerslug
11-07-2005, 02:17 PM
Ever read the NFL Collective Bargaining Agreement?
Great contract for the workers!!!!!
DomCasual
11-07-2005, 02:20 PM
Yikes... It's over 250 pages...
Cancel print job... I'm taking this one to the library...
I'm dying to know what caused the sudden inspiration to dust off the Collective Bargaining Agreement.
Garcia Bronco
11-07-2005, 02:36 PM
Your posting on it....
LOL
Rock Chalk
11-07-2005, 02:38 PM
Ever read the NFL Collective Bargaining Agreement?
Great contract for the workers!!!!!
Yep, overpaid "workers" with MOST of them standing around doing nothing. ;D
DomCasual
11-07-2005, 02:43 PM
Your posting on it....
Yeah, but he's had that, and he is still making reference to reading the Collective Bargaining Agreement.
I should have said "another hobby."
eddie mac
11-07-2005, 02:48 PM
Yep, overpaid "workers" with MOST of them standing around doing nothing. ;D
Or bitching about their teammates and wrecking a 1 year old Superbowl team.
ak1971
11-07-2005, 02:57 PM
Here is the whole thing:
http://www.nflpa.org/Members/main.asp?subPage=CBA+Complete
I ususally stick to reading the uniform commerical code for my light reading
ro_50
11-07-2005, 03:26 PM
When does the current Collective Bargaining agreement end?
Isnt it coming up after next season or something.
Hercules Rockefeller
11-07-2005, 03:28 PM
When does the current Collective Bargaining agreement end?
Isnt it coming up after next season or something.
Yep, after 2007
and 2007 will be an uncapped year if they don't reach a new deal
clean
11-07-2005, 03:31 PM
I'm too busy watching paint dry to read the CBA.
watermock
11-07-2005, 03:38 PM
Clarett had a better chance of winning with the Supreme Court than T.O. winning this grievance.
This was hardly an isolated incident, it dates back all the way to Steve Young. He singlehandedly dismantled S.F.
It's literally unreal...he chased off Mooch, Garcia and God only knows how many potential free agents...even Baltimore seems to have had a meltdown with T.O. even snubbing the team and never taking a snap.
Taco John
11-07-2005, 03:43 PM
I'm dying to know what caused the sudden inspiration to dust off the Collective Bargaining Agreement.
The fact that there's a new one coming up, and it'll be the most crucial moment in NFL history to date. This new bargaining agreement will affect the game in some very key ways. Most notably, there is talk of increasing the cap by another $15-odd million dollars, which is an additional $480 million per year for the players to vie for. Well, when you look at teams like KC, who already aren't spending up to the cap limit, and aren't willing to pay big bucks in signing bonuses, you can see that there is disparity there... Disparity in a parity driven league is problematic.
RunByDesign
11-07-2005, 03:46 PM
So, what you're saying is: only idiots will play for the Chefs?
LOL
Bronco_Beerslug
11-07-2005, 03:52 PM
Yep, overpaid "workers" with MOST of them standing around doing nothing. ;D
Ain't that the truth? They probably only actually work for about 10 minutes total on Sunday and you pay so you can watch em. ;D
TheReverend
11-07-2005, 04:02 PM
Just finished... wow, that was a hell of an exciting read. I laughed, I cried...
DomCasual
11-07-2005, 04:09 PM
Just finished... wow, that was a hell of an exciting read. I laughed, I cried...
..I became a part of it. I could read it again and again. It was better than Cats.
Hercules Rockefeller
11-07-2005, 04:11 PM
Well, when you look at teams like KC, who already aren't spending up to the cap limit, and aren't willing to pay big bucks in signing bonuses, you can see that there is disparity there... Disparity in a parity driven league is problematic.
So if teams are spending to the CBA mandated floor, why do you care how close they spend to the cap?
missingnumber7
11-07-2005, 04:17 PM
Section 2. Personal Appearance: Clubs may make and enforce reasonable rules governing players’ appearance on the field and in public places while representing the Clubs; provided, however, that no player will be disciplined because of hair length or facial hair.
Overweight—maximum fine of $50 per lb./per day.
Loss of all or part of playbook, scouting report or game plan—maximum fine of $1,000.
Ejection from game—maximum fine of $2,000.
Conduct detrimental to Club—maximum fine of an amount equal to one week’s salary and/or suspension without pay for a period not to exceed four (4) weeks.
The Club will promptly notify the player of any discipline; notice of any Club fine in the $4,000/$5,000 maximum category and of any “conduct detrimental” fine or suspension will be sent to the NFLPA.
missingnumber7
11-07-2005, 04:27 PM
WRITTEN WARNING
GOOD FAITH EFFORT
[date]
Dear [player]:
The Club hereby provides you with written notice that you are failing to exhibit the level of good faith effort which can be reasonably expected from players on this Club. If you do not demonstrate the good faith effort which can be reasonably expected from players on this Club, you will not be entitled to Termination Pay under Article XXIII of the Collective Bargaining Agreement if you are terminated before the end of this season.
[Club Official]
[Club name]
Taco, can we use this for people who are posting in good faith?
Bob's your Information Minister
11-07-2005, 04:30 PM
Jebus.
I consider myself a huge football nerd and even I won't be reading it.
Hopefully Taco can give us cliffnotes.
Dudeskey
11-07-2005, 04:33 PM
Overweight—maximum fine of $50 per lb.
Holy crap, I'm glad the DOT doesn't have these kinda fines for overwight.
TheReverend
11-07-2005, 07:30 PM
..I became a part of it. I could read it again and again. It was better than Cats.
SACRILEDGE! Oh well, at least you didnt say Guys and Dolls...
TheReverend
11-07-2005, 07:31 PM
Jebus.
I consider myself a huge football nerd and even I won't be reading it.
Hopefully Taco can give us cliffnotes.
You got one part right... just take out the word football and everyone will agree.
missingnumber7
11-07-2005, 08:56 PM
its written so 15 lawyers have to come together to understand what it says. Its worse than the rule about fumbling inside the 5 and only the fumbler can recover the fumble or it goes back to the fumblees spot unless the party of point a is ahead by 52 and the party of point b is behind and if a train leaves la bound for NY at 65 miles an hour what time will we all go crazy and stop watching this game.
BroncoBuff
11-08-2005, 12:16 AM
Yikes... It's over 250 pages...
Cancel print job... I'm taking this one to the library...
You think the CBA is complicated . . . try reading the SALARY CAP rules!
Taco John
11-08-2005, 01:18 AM
So if teams are spending to the CBA mandated floor, why do you care how close they spend to the cap?
I don't, so long as Denver is spending close to the CBA mandated maximum.
The other suckers can spend close to the minimum all they want. It's their losing seasons that they have to worry about.
Pezman
11-08-2005, 01:20 AM
Here's one that caught my eye with the TO fiasco in Philly. I wonder how they will reword this article in light of two big name players recieving this kind of treatment in the past couple years...
ARTICLE XXIII
TERMINATION PAY
Section 1. Eligibility: Any player who has completed the season in which his fourth year or more of credited service under the Bert Bell/Pete Rozelle Retirement Plan has been earned shall be eligible for termination pay under this Article if:
(1) He is released after his Club’s first regular season game; and
(2) He has made the Inactive or Active List of his Club on or after the date of his Club’s first regular season game.
Subject to Section 3 below, the amount of termination pay payable to such player shall be the unpaid balance of his Paragraph 5 Salary for that League Year. Termination pay under this Article shall be claimed and payable no sooner than one day after the end of the regular season schedule, and no later than February 1. A player will not be entitled to termination pay more than once during his playing career in the NFL.
*Extension Agreement 2/25/98
Section 2. Regular Season Signings: The termination pay under this Article of any player who is terminated from a contract which was signed after the beginning of the regular season in which he is terminated shall be limited to an amount equal to the unpaid balance of the initial 25% of such player’s Paragraph 5 Salary. If such player is released after the eighth regular season game, his termination pay shall be one week’s salary, up to a maximum of $20,000.
Section 3. Ineligibility For Termination Pay: An otherwise qualified player will not be entitled to termination pay under this Article if the Club can demonstrate that, after receipt of a written warning from his Club in the form attached hereto as Appendix N, the player failed to exhibit the level of good faith effort which can be reasonably expected from NFL players on that Club.
*Extension Agreement 2/25/98
* A player shall not be eligible for Termination Pay if, without missing a game check at the Paragraph 5 rate stated in his terminated contract, he signs a Player Contract with the same Club that terminated his contract, which new contract provides for Paragraph 5 salary at a rate equal to or greater than that of his terminated contract. If the player’s new contract is subsequently terminated, however, he shall be eligible for Termination Pay for such subsequent termination. This paragraph may not be used or referred to in any pending case that was filed prior to the date of this letter, except to enforce the terms of this sentence.
*Side Letter 3/3/97: Sec.
Taco John
11-08-2005, 01:21 AM
Jebus.
I consider myself a huge football nerd and even I won't be reading it.
Hopefully Taco can give us cliffnotes.
I probably wont read the whole thing, but will thumb through it as a reference. There is quite a bit of interesting stuff in there.
Orange4Life
11-08-2005, 02:23 AM
Its actully a pretty good read. Once you get past the first 20 pages or so it develops a nice pace with thoughtful insight and information. I was done before I knew it. Its quite an addictive piece of literature.
OrangeShadow
11-08-2005, 04:33 AM
Your posting on it....
Hilarious! Hilarious!