Ahahahahahaha!

[Taco John]

AHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Oh man! HAHAHAHAHAHA!

[RhymesayersDU]

I concur.

[Garcia Bronco]

Indeed....there was a disturbance in the force...I heard a million crys...and then...silence.

:)

[JAPS]

I second it

[Dagmar]

Indeed....there was a disturbance in the force...I heard a million crys...and then...silence.

:)

Much mullet scratching in KC...

[Ratboy]

I'm laughing too. This is very ammusing!

[JAPS]

Do ya think they kick the field goal and send it to OT? Or just go for 6

[Garcia Bronco]

This thread will apply either way.

[Taco John]

Someone is going to get their heart ripped out. I would prefer to see KC get it, but watching Oakland collapse would be great as well...

This is an awesome way to spend a bye week...

[Bronx33]

Gawd The Fades D Stinks!

[Meck77]

Someone go find some raider fans for the mane. Do they still exist?

[Bronx33]

Someone go find some raider fans for the mane. Do they still exist?

Not today.......

[Taco John]

Oh great, Dick is crying... Oh well, so is Sapp! Ha!

[ludo21]

Someone go find some raider fans for the mane. Do they still exist?


i saw njibil talking smack the other day, but he wont show again. RR has been gone for awhile this loss wiill only extend their absence. lol

I come home just in time to see the Fade lose, or Chiefs lose, either way good stuff. In the long run it might be better for the Chiefs to have lost but Fade silencce is priceless. Nyah!

[Garcia Bronco]

Did you guys see the hug...LMAO?

[Billy Clyde Puckett]

Was Dick giving trINT some tongue?

[Meck77]

Well if we can't get trolls we can copy and paste some of their posts...lmfao


Here's one I just found.


syphon
Rookie Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Utica, NY
Posts: 42


We lose 3-4 Games a Year Cause of BS Ref calls.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

And Im sick of it!!!! Im bout ready to boycott the NFL.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

Who's Laughing Now? Cardiac Chiefs!

[Bob's your Information Minister]

Seriously....bite me! Trent Green did his best Joe Montana impersonation.

CHIEFS!

[Northman]

Seriously....bite me! Trent Green did his best Joe Montana impersonation.

CHIEFS!


Your doing your best Moron impersonation but that isnt hard for you.

[ludo21]

Seriously....bite me! Trent Green did his best Joe Montana impersonation.

CHIEFS!


woooo!! Go chiefs, squeaked by a terrible Oak D/ Team. Congrats Boob. Ha!

[brncs_fan]

Seriously....bite me! Trent Green did his best Joe Montana impersonation.

CHIEFS!
Seriously, your on a Broncos board! Go Away!

[Meck77]

So does the fade pack it in for the year or come out angry next week? Stay tuned.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

Seriously....the Chiefs totally rock.

[Meck77]

Boob act like you've seen the chiefs win a close game before will you. It wasn't the superbowl son. Relax.

[elsid13]

The Raider got "jobbed" on that tripping call. Thank the refs Mullet heads

[Blart]

Did anyone see Green try to hope over the oakland defender? Man that guy is stiff.

[ludo21]

So does the fade pack it in for the year or come out angry next week? Stay tuned.


Its another rivalry game and they feel like they are better than their record. I say its going to be a tough game, but if this Broncos team is for real (which i think they are), they should blow ot the Fade.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

The Raider got "jobbed" on that tripping call. Thank the refs Mullet heads

The Chiefs got "jobbed" on two other calls. Thank no one, whore.

[Paladin]

Seriously, the Chiefs totally suck.

[elsid13]

The Chiefs got "jobbed" on two other calls. Thank no one, whore.


Did you just call me a whore??? What an a$$.

[Garcia Bronco]

Was Dick giving trINT some tongue?


It was a 15 second embrace.

[Paladin]

Nah. The Chiefs didn't get robbed nor were there any bad calls against them. They just got damm lucky, and the refs helped them out. Frankly, though, it doesn't matter a whit. The Chiefs suck and they know it.


What is really astonishing: here is Boob, on a rival borad celebrating a Mullet win over a truely bad team. That is about as ignorant as it gets.



Same to you, Boob.

[elsid13]

It was a 15 second embrace.


But it will turn into long hot shower later.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

AFC West Standings:

Broncos 6-2
Chiefs 5-3
Chargers 5-4
Raiders 3-5

I AIN'T HEARD NO FAT LADY!

[brncs_fan]

It was a 15 second embrace.
I can see the headlines now...

"Vermeil comes out to TrINT, Green sues for sexual harassment"

[bpc]

Who cares, the chiefs are no better then when we trounced them earlier in the season. I actually feel pretty confident that barring a major cold snap, we easily go into Arrowhead and walk out with victory. This will be the easiest since DT went AWOL and got booted out of the stadium in 98'.

The Raiders suck. Did we actually count on them to do something right? This team is terrible and I'm glad we get to exploit their sad defense next week. It will be our 4th game over 200 yds rushing this season.

[Blueflame]

Seriously....bite me! Trent Green did his best Joe Montana impersonation.

CHIEFS!

From what I saw, the win should properly be credited to Diaper Boy and not solely to Green, Bob. It was Diaper Boy's legs; not Green's arm that put the winning points up, after all. ::)

[Bob's your Information Minister]

LMAO

You guys sure are staring ahead in the schedule. You've got a bevy of road games to play.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

From what I saw, the win should properly be credited to Diaper Boy and not solely to Green, Bob. It was Diaper Boy's legs; not Green's arm that put the winning points up, after all. ::)

LJ had 1/2 yard rushing on that drive.

The rest was all Green. Sure, he checked that pass down. That wasn't the entire drive by a long shot.

[Clockwork Orange]

I AIN'T HEARD NO FAT LADY!

You haven't met your future wife yet. Be patient.

[Bronx33]

One thing is perfectly clear is that guuunthas D is aweful that hasen't changed even with the win......

[bpc]

True, one game at a time. However, the chiefs stink. What changes this? You barely beat a very bad football team. Good job.

[Clockwork Orange]

LJ had 1/2 yard rushing on that drive.

The rest was all Green. Sure, he checked that pass down. That wasn't the entire drive by a long shot.

No, that drive was made by the Fade's defense somehow ignoring Diaper Boy standing in the middle of the field. Someone blew their assignment badly on that one. That and the BS tripping call.

[elsid13]

LMAO

You guys sure are staring ahead in the schedule. You've got a bevy of road games to play.


Boob, go ahead a predict that the Chef will win AFC west. Please!!!! :pray:

[ludo21]

AFC West Standings:

Broncos 6-2
Chiefs 5-3
Chargers 5-4
Raiders 3-5

I AIN'T HEARD NO FAT LADY!


Never said she did, the Chiefs are right there at our heels, and have a good shot at winning it. But celebrating a win over a bad team is stupid boob, admit that at least.

[bpc]

BTW, Bob have you even looked at your last six games yet?

NE, Denver, @ Dallas, @ NY Giants, San Diego and Cincy... you guys might end the season on a 6 game losing streak.

[Blueflame]

LJ had 1/2 yard rushing on that drive.

The rest was all Green. Sure, he checked that pass down. That wasn't the entire drive by a long shot.

Diaper Boy made the plays that put the points up. Comparing Green to Montana is a major slap in the face to ol' Joe, isn't it? Just sayin'....

[Bob's your Information Minister]

One thing is perfectly clear is that guuunthas D is aweful that hasen't changed even with the win......

We allowed 263 yards. Yeah, we suck.

[elsid13]

Yeah, we suck.


Something we all can agree about.

[Meck77]

We allowed 263 yards. Yeah, we suck.

Bob if you didn't notice you played a pathetic raiders team today. Yes you do suck. Remember what we did to your team recently?

[Bob's your Information Minister]

Bob if you didn't notice you played a pathetic raiders team today. Yes you do suck. Remember what we did to your team recently?

Typical Donk fans...living in the past.

When was the last time you beat the Raiders in your home stadium? :~ohyah!:

[Clockwork Orange]

Typical Donk fans...living in the past.

When was the last time you beat the Raiders in your home stadium? :~ohyah!:

Not as recently as we beat the Chefs there. :laugh:

[Bob's your Information Minister]

Not as recently as we beat the Chefs there. :laugh:

Touche

[Blueflame]

Not as recently as we beat the Chefs there. :laugh:

We didn't just beat the Chefs, CO... it was total and absolute domination. rofl

[Bob's your Information Minister]

We didn't just beat the Chefs, CO... it was total and absolute domination. rofl

I wouldn't go that far. It's not like you beat us 45-17.

[Garcia Bronco]

It was a 15 second embrace.

Followed by a ten second frencher.

[NaptownChief]

Bob if you didn't notice you played a pathetic raiders team today. Yes you do suck. Remember what we did to your team recently?



Remember what you guys did to the Fins versus what we did? Parity, parity, parity....Parity is why homefield advantage is such a huge factor...Parity is why you guys killed us at the beginning of last season and yet came to Arrowhead and got killed later in the season. Parity is why the Donks/Chiefs matchup on Dec 4th will probably look nothing like the ass kicking you guys laid on us early in the season. No reason to be getting too full of yourself or your team over that one game. Plenty of football left to be played.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

Bingo.

[Bronx33]

I wouldn't go that far. It's not like you beat us 45-17.

It's still 05 bob so there is time and one more game vs the sqaws have faith bob.......

[RhymesayersDU]

I will say... Huge props to Vermeil, gutsy call at the end.

[Bronx33]

I will say... Huge props to Vermeil, gutsy call at the end.

I will agree with that....

[Bob's your Information Minister]

Dick surprised me. The FG was automatic.

[Northman]

i call it a no-brainer. desperation is more like it.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

i call it a no-brainer. desperation is more like it.

Playing for the win is desperate?

[Bronco Yoda]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v30/netizen/Bronco%20Avs/attachment.jpg
Trent and Crybaby steal a moment..... good times....

[Northman]

Playing for the win is desperate?


It is when your defense is absolutely horrid. this game shouldnt have even been close yet your stellar Defense again folded like a paper plate. and yes, Vermin was desperate for a win and not taking a chance of going to overtime which my guess is the chiefs would have lost.

[yavoon]

the correct play in the situation is to go for the TD. unless u think ur vastly superior to the other team in general except on the 1 yard line.

but given the chiefs oline and fullback and all that. the chance of ramming it home from 1 yard was far higher than making the field goal+winning in overtime.

marty would have kicked the fg though.

[RhymesayersDU]

the correct play in the situation is to go for the TD. unless u think ur vastly superior to the other team in general except on the 1 yard line.

but given the chiefs oline and fullback and all that. the chance of ramming it home from 1 yard was far higher than making the field goal+winning in overtime.

marty would have kicked the fg though.
Hell, marty would have just taken a knee and accepted the loss.

[Bronx33]

Dick surprised me. The FG was automatic.

Going for the win was an easy decision for dickie the last thing he wanted was a tie going to OT with your D playing like cr@P so the conversion was a must he didn't want to count on his D to get the ball back.So it was either win it now or lose it in OT.

[Northman]

Going for the win was an easy decision for dickie the last thing he wanted was a tie going to OT with your D playing like cr@P so the conversion was a must he didn't want to count on his D to get the ball back.So it was either win it now or lose it in OT.


Bingo, again desperation from crying boy.

[bpc]

The difference between our two franchises now vs. a month ago when we played? Now we have two half backs that will hit your weak defense up for a 100 yds and we know how to use them...

You used to have two quality backs, now its down to one and he has a head problem on top of all the other late season injury problems he tends to get around this time of year. PLUS, you will be lucky if Roaf can go this round either. Torn hamstring? He might be done for the year.

All this hope and optimism off of a lucky last second win vs. the Faiders. How sad the false sense of hope is.

[Blueflame]

I wouldn't go that far. It's not like you beat us 45-17.

Hey, I was there, Bob... and I'll call it as I see it. It was total and complete domination because your team was never really even in the game, despite the garbage-time touchdown. :pfbbt:

[Moon§hiner]

not sure that I found it worth a laugh, but it does make next week interesting....now the Raiders are totally backed into a corner and the Chiefs are right on our azz...if we take care of business we are one step closer to our goal, but I don't think the Raiders are going to be obliging just because we think we deserve it. Our game in KC is going to be the biggest game of the second half...what happens there will determine how we finish out the season.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

Some of these quotes I'm hearing from Raiders players are disgusting. They're all bitching about the tripping call.

OK guys, whatever. Maybe if you had covered Larry Johnson on the second-to-last play of the game.

[NaptownChief]

Bingo, again desperation from crying boy.



That is a silly assertion. I'm guessing you are just trying to get a rise out of Bob. The odds of punching in from a couple inches out with a good power RB and behind 3 very good lineman in the middle is about 75-85%...The chances of winning in OT is about 55% and the extra 5% is due to having the home field crowd. Anybody who opts for a 55% chance of winning versus a 75+% chance would be a fool.

Just because you got your heart broken seeing the Chiefs pull that out doesn't mean blood flow should stop going to your brain.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

Our game in KC is going to be the biggest game of the second half...what happens there will determine how we finish out the season.

For sure. I can't wait.

Next week could see the division tied. Oakland is no pushover and Denver is going on the road. Buffalo meanwhile looks like an easy trip for KC with Buffalo's pathetic run defense.

Plus, Oakland will be ANNNNGRY! RAWR! Right 24champbailey?

[yavoon]

That is a silly assertion. I'm guessing you are just trying to get a rise out of Bob. The odds of punching in from a couple inches out with a good power RB and behind 3 very good lineman in the middle is about 75-85%...The chances of winning in OT is about 55% and the extra 5% is due to having the home field crowd. Anybody who opts for a 55% chance of winning versus a 75+% chance would be a fool.

Just because you got your heart broken seeing the Chiefs pull that out doesn't mean blood flow should stop going to your brain.

larryjohnson woulda scored if he would have thrown his body into the defender to his right instead of just lunging towards the goalline. he could have kept his feet longer and he was a lot bigger but because he was falling anyway...yah.

[elsid13]

For sure. I can't wait.

Next week could see the division tied. Oakland is no pushover and Denver is going on the road. Buffalo meanwhile looks like an easy trip for KC with Buffalo's pathetic run defense.

Plus, Oakland will be ANNNNGRY! RAWR! Right 24champbailey?


Bob making prediction again. How many have come right?

[Bob's your Information Minister]

Bob making prediction again. How many have come right?

I'm not predicting ****.

[Northman]

That is a silly assertion. I'm guessing you are just trying to get a rise out of Bob. The odds of punching in from a couple inches out with a good power RB and behind 3 very good lineman in the middle is about 75-85%...The chances of winning in OT is about 55% and the extra 5% is due to having the home field crowd. Anybody who opts for a 55% chance of winning versus a 75+% chance would be a fool.

Just because you got your heart broken seeing the Chiefs pull that out doesn't mean blood flow should stop going to your brain.


nothing Silly about it. Denver would have most certainly gone for the tie because there is faith in the Bronco Defense to make a stop. the same cannot be said about the Chief defense and Vermin knows that. sure, the odds are up with taking the TD but its a gamble anyway you slice it. a confident coach who believes in his defense takes the 3 and plays for OT.

[yavoon]

nothing Silly about it. Denver would have most certainly gone for the tie because there is faith in the Bronco Defense to make a stop. the same cannot be said about the Chief defense and Vermin knows that. sure, the odds are up with taking the TD but its a gamble anyway you slice it. a confident coach who believes in his defense takes the 3 and plays for OT.

going for the tie is the wrong thing to do. u have all the "faith" u want. Unless ur really bad at the goalline u punch it in. Its only a perceived gamble, the reality is the %'s are in ur favor to go for it.

[NaptownChief]

nothing Silly about it. Denver would have most certainly gone for the tie


I'm not going to argue with you about that...You are probably correct I mean this is the same coaching staff that drafted Clarrett.

[Bronx33]

I'm not going to argue with you about that...You are probably correct I mean this is the same coaching staff that drafted Clarrett.

Well denver could have tied it up and counted on their D to get the ball back in OT dickie couldn't trust his D so he had to go for it.

[Jetmeck]

Seriously, your on a Broncos board! Go Away!

Warning ! Warning !

Logic and common sense do not work on BOOB.

[yavoon]

Well denver could have tied it up and counted on their D to get the ball back in OT dickie couldn't trust his D so he had to go for it.

not good logic, the game is obviously very close. Unless u feel there is some bizzarre set of circumstances that has led it to be close and if u only had a chance to continue the game u could win then u should probably go for it. u can trust ur d to stop and ur o to score, but they've done both at about the same rate as ur opponent has.

another thing worth mentioning is that the chance of making it if u only had one play no matter what is actually higher than the normal chance of making it in from the 1 yard line. lots of goalline playcalling is also looking ahead to the next down, ie the the chance of the play not going badly can be as important as its chance of success.

[24champ]

For sure. I can't wait.

Next week could see the division tied. Oakland is no pushover and Denver is going on the road. Buffalo meanwhile looks like an easy trip for KC with Buffalo's pathetic run defense.

Plus, Oakland will be ANNNNGRY! RAWR! Right 24champbailey?
Ha! your all excited after your crappy defense cant hold a 20-9 lead late in the game. Raiders had the game at the end but they instead gift wrapped it for the chiefs, i mean roaf and Holmes are out and the raiders defense cant make a dent. I would be depressed if I was a raider, not angry.

[NaptownChief]

Well denver could have tied it up and counted on their D to get the ball back in OT dickie couldn't trust his D so he had to go for it.



And Denver couldn't have faith in getting the half a yard at the goalline...especially with T.Bell so I understand why they might have kicked it. :~ohyah!:

[eddie mac]

AFC West Standings:

Broncos 6-2
Chiefs 5-3
Chargers 5-4
Raiders 3-5

I AIN'T HEARD NO FAT LADY!

Your girlfriend not speaking to you again Bob?

[Northman]

going for the tie is the wrong thing to do. u have all the "faith" u want. Unless ur really bad at the goalline u punch it in. Its only a perceived gamble, the reality is the %'s are in ur favor to go for it.


When you have between 8-10 seconds to spare, yes you go for it. with 5 seconds? not a chance in hell. if they dont succeed on that then the chef fans would be on the warpath about how he should have taken the sure fg. but, vermin is not a complete idiot, he knows the momentum had turned in the game and knew his defense would not be able to stop the fade. so what do you do when your desperate to pull out a win at home with a useless defense? you go for it naturally.

[Bronx33]

And Denver couldn't have faith in getting the half a yard at the goalline...especially with T.Bell so I understand why they might have kicked it. :~ohyah!:

Avoid the facts that's seems to be typical today for mullet nation.

[eddie mac]

We allowed 263 yards. Yeah, we suck.

Bob, yards conceded mean jack-**** in football. Points make prizes.

[Northman]

And Denver couldn't have faith in getting the half a yard at the goalline...especially with T.Bell so I understand why they might have kicked it. :~ohyah!:


on your defense we could have scored from 20 yds out with 5 seconds left. Hilarious!

[NaptownChief]

Avoid the facts that's seems to be typical today for mullet nation.


Avoid what fact fool? The fact that KC has been the best redzone running team in the league for several years now? Or the fact that Bell is horrible in short yardage to this point in his career?

[eddie mac]

For sure. I can't wait.

Next week could see the division tied. Oakland is no pushover and Denver is going on the road. Buffalo meanwhile looks like an easy trip for KC with Buffalo's pathetic run defense.

Plus, Oakland will be ANNNNGRY! RAWR! Right 24champbailey?

Who's to say you'll stop McGahee plus did the Bills not fvck up a perfect opportunity to win in NE last week. You're right though at the end of next week we could be tied up then again we could win (no shock there) and you could lose (ditto) and we'd have a 2 game lead again.:giggle:

[yavoon]

When you have between 8-10 seconds to spare, yes you go for it. with 5 seconds? not a chance in hell. if they dont succeed on that then the chef fans would be on the warpath about how he should have taken the sure fg. but, vermin is not a complete idiot, he knows the momentum had turned in the game and knew his defense would not be able to stop the fade. so what do you do when your desperate to pull out a win at home with a useless defense? you go for it naturally.

yah well ppl are stupid. if they had understood the chances involved then they would have realized it was the right call.

I do agree w/ u there would be much teeth gnashing and other clubbing going on by the peanut galleries saying "just dont lose the game man." which btw they go back and tell ppl "dont play to not lose the game." its all one big pot of idiocy out there.

[Meck77]

Avoid what fact fool? The fact that KC has been the best redzone running team in the league for several years now? Or the fact that Bell is horrible in short yardage to this point in his career?


ok enough of this....50 bucks says we knock you chorfs into the dirt in December.

Let's go Nap. It's been over a year since we've had a bet. I want to catch you while you are on this delusional high about your team.

[eddie mac]

That is a silly assertion. I'm guessing you are just trying to get a rise out of Bob. The odds of punching in from a couple inches out with a good power RB and behind 3 very good lineman in the middle is about 75-85%...The chances of winning in OT is about 55% and the extra 5% is due to having the home field crowd. Anybody who opts for a 55% chance of winning versus a 75+% chance would be a fool.

Just because you got your heart broken seeing the Chiefs pull that out doesn't mean blood flow should stop going to your brain.

For me, whoever won that game today doesn't matter because if the division race stays tight it means we have to stay on top of our game and push ourselves every week for a W.

[ZachKC]

ok enough of this....50 bucks says we knock you chorfs into the dirt in December.

Let's go Nap. It's been over a year since we've had a bet. I want to catch you while you are on this dilusional high about your team.
I don't know who is more dilusional. You were just talking about a team that is a single game in back of you at this point in the season fighting in the cellar.

[NaptownChief]

ok enough of this....50 bucks says we knock you chorfs into the dirt in December.

Let's go Nap. It's been over a year since we've had a bet. I want to catch you while you are on this dilusional high about your team.


Done....Straight up I assume unless you are feeling so good about your mid-season Super Bowl champs that you want to spot me a couple.

[Bronx33]

Avoid what fact fool? The fact that KC has been the best redzone running team in the league for several years now? Or the fact that Bell is horrible in short yardage to this point in his career?

Well to find the truth we would have to look into dickies pea sized brain it's MY opinon he had no choice to go for it based on the fact he couldn't count on his D to get the ball back in OT he had to avoid OT or lose the game.(If you don't like my opinion i guess you can stuff it) what bell would do is irrelavant.

[Meck77]

Done....Straight up I assume unless you are feeling so good about your mid-season Super Bowl champs that you want to spot me a couple.


straight up. :strong: I could care less if vegas gives you a few points for being the home team.

You going to the game? You can pay me in person if so. We'll be in mullet head park after the game...err I mean Arrowhead park. Or I'll find the red short bus you are hanging out at and deliver your money.;D

[Bob's your Information Minister]

Who's to say you'll stop McGahee plus did the Bills not fvck up a perfect opportunity to win in NE last week. You're right though at the end of next week we could be tied up then again we could win (no shock there) and you could lose (ditto) and we'd have a 2 game lead again.:giggle:

We've done a solid job against the run this year. Buffalo's anemic passing game doesn't concern me. Gunther is smart enough to stack the line.

Meanwhile, we feast on Buffalo's horrible run D.

[NaptownChief]

Well to find the truth we would have to look into dickies pea sized brain it's MY opinon he had no choice to go for it based on the fact he couldn't count on his D to get the ball back in OT he had to avoid OT or lose the game.(If you don't like my opinion i guess you can stuff it) what bell would do is irrelavant.


You are looking at it from the perspective of a team who has been horrible in redzone scoring the last couple of seasons so it is only natural to want to take the game out of their hands. When you have had the best red zone running team in the league for several years now you have faith you can get a half of a yard and win the game and that is what you do. I understand however as I have watched your backs in crucial short yardage situations several times the last couple years and when you combine the fumbles with the several times of getting stuffed I understand why you would want to kick.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

http://images.nfl.com/u/photos/pl_178165.jpg

[Bob's your Information Minister]

21 looks like someone just shot his dog.

http://images.nfl.com/u/photos/pl_178167.jpg

[NaptownChief]

straight up. :strong: I could care less if the vegas gives you a few points for being the home team.

You going to the game? You can pay me in person if so. We'll be in mullet head park after the game...err I mean Arrowhead park. Or I'll find the red short bus you are hanging out at and deliver your money.;D



Sounds good...Don't have tickets at this point but an outside chance I will go. December is the busiest month of the year at work so it is unlikely however I would really like to make it. If so we will definitely hook up afterwards. Later.

[Mile High Shack]

something I think we can all agree on

the Raiders or the Chiefs aren't as good as everyone thought they would be

[Bronx33]

something I think we can all agree on

the Raiders or the Chiefs aren't as good as everyone thought they would be


Yep and it's proved every week....

[NaptownChief]

something I think we can all agree on

the Raiders or the Chiefs aren't as good as everyone thought they would be



Chiefs only due to injuries...Having your 3 best players in Roaf, Holmes and Surtain out have a way of doing that. The 4th best player in Shields is playing with a bad back, probably our best DT in Sims has been out all year. Staring WR in Parker has missed a good portion. Played today with the top 3 CB's in Surtain, Warfield and McCleon all out at one point when Warfield went out. Starting RT Sampson has missed nearly all season.

You lose that many key players it is impossible not to look worse than expectations. Despite all that only 1 game back and the Donks are coming to Arrowhead and none of the large assortment of injuries are season ending at this point.

[yavoon]

Chiefs only due to injuries...Having your 3 best players in Roaf, Holmes and Surtain out have a way of doing that. The 4th best player in Shields is playing with a bad back, probably our best DT in Sims has been out all year. Staring WR in Parker has missed a good portion. Played today with the top 3 CB's in Surtain, Warfield and McCleon all out at one point when Warfield went out. Starting RT Sampson has missed nearly all season.

You lose that many key players it is impossible not to look worse than expectations. Despite all that only 1 game back and the Donks are coming to Arrowhead and none of the large assortment of injuries are season ending at this point.

thats a lie shields is ur second best player.

[NaptownChief]

thats a lie shields is ur second best player.


Probably true.

[Northman]

Chiefs only due to injuries...Having your 3 best players in Roaf, Holmes and Surtain out have a way of doing that. The 4th best player in Shields is playing with a bad back, probably our best DT in Sims has been out all year. Staring WR in Parker has missed a good portion. Played today with the top 3 CB's in Surtain, Warfield and McCleon all out at one point when Warfield went out. Starting RT Sampson has missed nearly all season.

You lose that many key players it is impossible not to look worse than expectations. Despite all that only 1 game back and the Donks are coming to Arrowhead and none of the large assortment of injuries are season ending at this point.


Yea, we punked you 30-10 with your starters. yea, your good alright. ROFL!

[Bronx33]

Yea, we punked you 30-10 with your starters. yea, your good alright. ROFL!


And that was THIS year!

[Bob's your Information Minister]

I would love to see the Broncos win a game without Champ Bailey, Matt Lepsis, Mike Anderson, Dominique Foxworth, Gerard Warren and Ashley Lelie.

[Raidersbane]

{The_Darkside.50.9975}: PATROLLING THE GODDAM WIRE! {assassin} Sun, 06 Nov 2005 15:18:57 CST (1 line)



Bwahahahahahahahahahah!!!!!




{The_Darkside.50.9976}: PBuch STILL SUCKS {drdeath} Sun, 06 Nov 2005 15:19:12 CST (1 line)



The O' Teezy be rockin.




{The_Darkside.50.9977}: {executioner} Sun, 06 Nov 2005 15:19:20 CST (1 line)



LET"S LOCK THIS DOWN!!!!! sdfoiuashpdgifuaspodifuvasdoiufvaoisduf




{The_Darkside.50.9978}: **** {raidervic} Sun, 06 Nov 2005 15:20:08 CST (1 line)



come on, force something




{The_Darkside.50.9979}: PATROLLING THE GODDAM WIRE! {assassin} Sun, 06 Nov 2005 15:20:15 CST (2 lines)



It's all good......Keep the ****er in bounds and don't let **** get
behind you




{The_Darkside.50.9980}: {assassin} Sun, 06 Nov 2005 15:20:16 CST (0 lines)
{erased by assassin Sun, 06 Nov 2005 15:20:22 CST}



{The_Darkside.50.9981}: PATROLLING THE GODDAM WIRE! {assassin} Sun, 06 Nov 2005 15:20:39 CST (1 line)



****!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!




{The_Darkside.50.9982}: {raiderlifer} Sun, 06 Nov 2005 15:20:45 CST (1 line)



bull****!!!!!!!!!




{The_Darkside.50.9983}: PBuch STILL SUCKS {drdeath} Sun, 06 Nov 2005 15:21:03 CST (1 line)



Oh my God. This is ****ing bull****.




{The_Darkside.50.9984}: {raidervic} Sun, 06 Nov 2005 15:21:28 CST (1 line)



come on Raiders




{The_Darkside.50.9985}: PATROLLING THE GODDAM WIRE! {assassin} Sun, 06 Nov 2005 15:21:39 CST (1 line)



Goddam it.....




{The_Darkside.50.9986}: PBuch STILL SUCKS {drdeath} Sun, 06 Nov 2005 15:21:53 CST (1 line)



****




{The_Darkside.50.9987}: {raiderlifer} Sun, 06 Nov 2005 15:22:16 CST (1 line)



come on, don't **** this up.




{The_Darkside.50.9988}: **** {raidervic} Sun, 06 Nov 2005 15:22:24 CST (1 line)



come on guys, lets at least keep them to a long range effort




{The_Darkside.50.9989}: PBuch STILL SUCKS {drdeath} Sun, 06 Nov 2005 15:22:24 CST (1 line)



These ****ing bitches




{The_Darkside.50.9990}: ? {raidervic} Sun, 06 Nov 2005 15:23:13 CST (3 lines)



one more play and then the kick ?

or do they have any more time outs




{The_Darkside.50.9991}: PATROLLING THE GODDAM WIRE! {assassin} Sun, 06 Nov 2005 15:23:47 CST (1 line)



Wow??? ****ing swell??? What a ****ing shame...




{The_Darkside.50.9992}: ****ing hell {raidervic} Sun, 06 Nov 2005 15:23:56 CST (0 lines)







{The_Darkside.50.9993}: {raiderlifer} Sun, 06 Nov 2005 15:24:06 CST (1 line)



sunnabitch




{The_Darkside.50.9994}: PBuch STILL SUCKS {drdeath} Sun, 06 Nov 2005 15:24:22 CST (2 lines)



**** I don't believe this ****. A new way to lose every ****ing
week.




{The_Darkside.50.9995}: {raidervic} Sun, 06 Nov 2005 15:24:36 CST (1 line)



has crymeil got the balls to go for it




{The_Darkside.50.9996}: PATROLLING THE GODDAM WIRE! {assassin} Sun, 06 Nov 2005 15:25:13 CST (1 line)



****ing goddam shame man........




{The_Darkside.50.9997}: PATROLLING THE GODDAM WIRE! {assassin} Sun, 06 Nov 2005 15:26:08 CST (1 line)



Have fun lifer................****ing bull****.




{The_Darkside.50.9998}: ouch {executioner} Sun, 06 Nov 2005 15:26:21 CST (0 lines)







{The_Darkside.50.9999}: {raidervic} Sun, 06 Nov 2005 15:26:22 CST (1 line)



****ing bastards

[Rock Chalk]

Seriously....the Chiefs totally rock.
Bandwagon jumpin mother ****er.

[Bronx33]

Lmao!

has crymeil got the balls to go for it

Was my favorite...

[Hercules Rockefeller]

The 3 teams Denver wants to win can't hold on or come through late.

I blame this retarded thread that TJ had to start before the KC-Oak game was over, and screwing the karma for this afternoon.

[Mile High Shack]

I would love to see the Broncos win a game without Champ Bailey, Matt Lepsis, Mike Anderson, Dominique Foxworth, Gerard Warren and Ashley Lelie.

how about we play with 2 rookie corner backs and still only lose 2 games?

oh wait

we did that

[Bob's your Information Minister]

how about we play with 2 rookie corner backs and still only lose 2 games?

oh wait

we did that

That's still only 2 injuries.

[Mile High Shack]

That's still only 2 injuries.

we get no breaks on excuses for injuries

or so we've been told every year...............

just "get better"

no excuses

[maven]

AHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Oh man! HAHAHAHAHAHA!

would have preferred the raidrers win this game

[ludo21]

I gotta admit the injury arguement is good. But the past 2 years we have played a few games w/o plummer and were called chokers. Go figure. Injuries suck and the Chiefs have overcame them for the most part, congrats, the Broncos have had only a few injuries and with a bit of luck *knock on wood* it will continue. I dont know if the team is capable to win w/o some of our major components, but then again we havent had to, so theirs no point in arguing about it.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

would have preferred the raidrers win this game
That's what Taco was counting on. Then Trent green ripped his heart out and stomped on it with his 17th career 4th quarter comeback.

[Mile High Shack]

That's what Taco was counting on. Then Trent green ripped his heart out and stomped on it with his 14th 4th quarter comeback.

I seriously doubt trINT green "ripped TJ's heart out"

either way, Denver is still on top and just needs to keep winning

Oakland losing isn't really tearing any Bronco fans heart out

and only 14 4th qtr wins? wow, that's a pretty low number for Joe Montana..err trINT green

[Hercules Rockefeller]

That's what Taco was counting on. Then Trent green ripped his heart out and stomped on it with his 14th 4th quarter comeback.

So how many more until he ties Jake?

[maven]

That's what Taco was counting on. Then Trent green ripped his heart out and stomped on it with his 14th 4th quarter comeback.


Good job by the chefs coming back...But that tripping call was complete BS. Should've been a holding call on the Chiefs regarding that play.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

So how many more until he ties Jake?

As A Bronco vs A Chief, currently Jake is trailing Green 14 to 1.

[Mile High Shack]

Good job by the chefs coming back...But that tripping call was complete BS. Should've been a holding call on the Chiefs regarding that play.

no...don't you know

apparently us Bronco fans care so much what happens to the lower class team...who is probably the 3rd best team in the division...that our hearts were "ripped out"

lord Bob...you are an f'n drama queen

[Bob's your Information Minister]

and only 14 4th qtr wins? wow, that's a pretty low number for Joe Montana..err trINT green

That's fairly good for 4 1/2 year span IMO.

[Mile High Shack]

That's fairly good for 4 1/2 year span IMO.

what's his W/L record in those 4 1/2 years btw?

ooo yeah, probably don't want to post that number

[Hercules Rockefeller]

That's fairly good for 4 1/2 year span IMO.

Sweet. That's resulted in how many playoff berths?

[Mile High Shack]

Sweet. That's resulted in how many playoff berths?

about as many as the number of teeth in his head

1

[Bronx33]

Sweet. That's resulted in how many playoff berths?

BURN! (kelso)

[24champ]

As A Bronco vs A Chief, currently Jake is trailing Green 14 to 1.
when you compare careers plummer has more. As a bronco he has more than one comeback you douche.

2 times plummer has been to the playoffs compared to ONE that trint green has been to.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

As a bronco he has more than one comeback you douche.
.

Really? The only one that springs to mind is Cleveland.

[24champ]

Really? The only one that springs to mind is Cleveland.
that san diego game this year comes to mind, besides the broncos dont play behind, we play ahead. By the way Plummer has 12 TDs and 3 INT, what does Trint have?!Booya!

[Mile High Shack]

that san diego game this year comes to mind, besides the broncos dont play behind, we play ahead. By the way Plummer has 12 TDs and 3 INT, what does Trint have?!Booya!

think we should compare win/loss records as well?

[24champ]

think we should compare win/loss records as well?
yeah how bout playoff appearances? Heck we all know a grocery bagger was pulled off the street and took over for Green on his last team shows how good he is.:giggle:

[Bob's your Information Minister]

I'm not really interested in engaging in a deflection-filled discussion guys, sorry.

[Mile High Shack]

I'm not really interested in engaging in a deflection-filled discussion guys, sorry.

your whole life is full of deflection to take away the pain of still living in your parents basement and the litany of sexual encounters with Princess Leia in your mind

[Bronx33]

I'm not really interested in engaging in a deflection-filled discussion guys, sorry.

We understand your more into delusional tool filled discussion.:thumbsup: nice deflection bob you almost covered it up.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

your whole life is full of deflection to take away the pain of still living in your parents basement and the litany of sexual encounters with Princess Leia in your mind

That's a decent deflection, with a side of personal attack.

[Mile High Shack]

That's a decent deflection, with a side of personal attack.

bob

if I had the time in my life, I would answer every single one of your posts with a personal attack after a KC win

your act is really old

piss and moan and say our season is done after losing

come back in here after a win and say how you can't wait to take us down in december

the act is old...time for some new material

[Sarcastro]

Good job by the chefs coming back...But that tripping call was complete BS. Should've been a holding call on the Chiefs regarding that play.

The Raiders would not have even got the lead back if not for a phantom roughing the passer penalty against Jared Allen. The refs are horrible now and days. Both teams got screwed by the refs.

[24champ]

I'm not really interested in engaging in a deflection-filled discussion guys, sorry.
http://homepages.slingshot.co.nz/~bites/dumbass.jpg

[Kaylore]

The Raiders would not have even got the lead back if not for a phantom roughing the passer penalty against Jared Allen. The refs are horrible now and days. Both teams got screwed by the refs.
The only thing you can count on with the officiating is that someone IS going to get screwed. That call on Jared Allen was awful.

[redrage]

Well, as a KC fan, I thought the Chiefs were pretty lucky today. Jordan ran pretty well, but Collins and that offense were pretty predictable with their play calling. If they had tried to wing it out earlier in the game, I think KC would've been in trouble. I don't see how a team (KC) goes from having one of the worst pass defenses in the league and haing their best CB out to shutting down the Raiders with that talent. Something else was a float.

Yes that was a bogus tripping call. I'll admit it. So what?

On the other hand...

The defense did play pretty well. Oakland's strategy aside, Washington/Warfield/Sapp amazingly covered thier WR pretty effectively.

The call on the goal line was absolutely right. If it was on the 2, you kick it. Maybe even on the 1. But it was on about the 1-2 foot line. I personally think the KC offense has a better than 50-50 chance at puncing it in there. Kick the FG and a 50-50 chance is all they have to get the coin toss and both offenses were starting to move the ball well.

I said before the season taht if KC stayed healthy, they could play with anyone. After the first series of the year when Sims went out, they've been struggling to field a healthy team and are still 5-3. Not beaten anyone good? OK (although Washington may classify). But their are a lot of winning teams in the league that that can be said about.

[Rausch]

The only thing you can count on with the officiating is that someone IS going to get screwed. That call on Jared Allen was awful.

I was happy.

One horrible call for and one against KC.

MUCH better than last week. Probably the most consistent and fair crew we've had all year.

[Saulbadguy]

Thank you Taco for blessing the Chiefs with a victory.

[NaptownChief]

The Raiders would not have even got the lead back if not for a phantom roughing the passer penalty against Jared Allen. The refs are horrible now and days. Both teams got screwed by the refs.


Officiating is pitiful...College and Pro. Bottom line is most of these guys just aren't very good at what they do. It's no big shocker when you think about it cause it is a profession that not very many people even try to take up so you are pulling the best from a small not so distinguished group of candidates.

The gross over protection for QB's has really gotten out of hand. I'm all for protecting them but taking it to the extreme level that we see bogus calls like the one on Allen a couple times every week.

One rule I personally think they need to get rid of is Intentional Grounding. I don't like the rule because it brings in too much subjective judgment which is never good when dealing with officials. But in the day and age that you are trying to protect QB's at an extreme level it also makes sense from that standpoint. It would allow QB's to get rid of the ball quicker under extreme pressure and avoid a lot of big hits. It's not like that pressure on the QB all of the sudden wouldn't be rewarded because if your pressure causes the QB to just throw it away and burn a down then it was rewarded and successful. Sure getting the sack yardage is nice but forcing them to throw it away is still a very successful play and a nice reward for your efforts. I would much rather see this then the mickey mouse flags coming out every time a defensive player just breathes on the QB.

[redrage]

Consistency is all I ask. If you know what you can get away with as a defense, there is no excuse.

Take the KC/Carolina game last season. Delhomme is at the goal line and gets spun around by a linebacker at throws a hail mary into the endzone that is caught for a TD. Later, in the same game, Trent gets his Jersey tugged at from behind and escapes and completes a pass for a first down, but the official ruled him in the grasp. No consistency at all.

[Garcia Bronco]

Officiating is pitiful...College and Pro. Bottom line is most of these guys just aren't very good at what they do. It's no big shocker when you think about it cause it is a profession that not very many people even try to take up so you are pulling the best from a small not so distinguished group of candidates.

The gross over protection for QB's has really gotten out of hand. I'm all for protecting them but taking it to the extreme level that we see bogus calls like the one on Allen a couple times every week.

One rule I personally think they need to get rid of is Intentional Grounding. I don't like the rule because it brings in too much subjective judgment which is never good when dealing with officials. But in the day and age that you are trying to protect QB's at an extreme level it also makes sense from that standpoint. It would allow QB's to get rid of the ball quicker under extreme pressure and avoid a lot of big hits. It's not like that pressure on the QB all of the sudden wouldn't be rewarded because if your pressure causes the QB to just throw it away and burn a down then it was rewarded and successful. Sure getting the sack yardage is nice but forcing them to throw it away is still a very successful play and a nice reward for your efforts. I would much rather see this then the mickey mouse flags coming out every time a defensive player just breathes on the QB.


See...i think they should get rid of the QB being able to throw it away outsthe tackle box....Take a sack or run OOB and take a sack...or run for it....but you can't throw it away to no one.

[NaptownChief]

See...i think they should get rid of the QB being able to throw it away outsthe tackle box....Take a sack or run OOB and take a sack...or run for it....but you can't throw it away to no one.



I agree...That is stupid...It should be a matter of you can legally throw it away or you can't...differentiating between being in the the tackle box or not is silly.

If you get rid of the intentional grounding rule all together you get rid of that garbage and you take out all the subjective garbage of did he throw it away under duress or not...was a receiver in the area, was he not....was the QB really throwing to a receiver and made a horrible pass, was he throwing to a receiver the the Dlineman hit his arm enough to keep him from getting it in the area of the receiver? All that needs to go. It should be legal to throw the ball away or it shouldn't. Think about it, why does a QB throw the ball away when nothing is open yet not immediately under pressure? To avoid the sack that would be coming eventually...So you are throwing it away to avoid a sack then why does it matter if the Dlineman is immediately on you or will soon be? Get rid of the rule, as it should be perfectly legal to throw the ball away and lose a down if you choose and that is still a nice reward to the defense and you better protect the QB which is apparently their number one goal anymore.

[SDChiefsfan]

AHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Oh man! HAHAHAHAHAHA!


AHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Oh man! HAHAHAHAHAHA!

ROFL! ROFL! ROFL!


!Booya! !Booya! !Booya!

[Mile High Shack]

AHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Oh man! HAHAHAHAHAHA!

ROFL! ROFL! ROFL!


!Booya! !Booya! !Booya!


amazing what trolls come out after a chiefs win

[SDChiefsfan]

amazing what trolls come out after a chiefs win

464 posts makes me something more than a troll I'd say. :welcome:

[Taco John]

Blessing the Chiefs with a victory? Hell, I was laughing at their pathetic excuse for a defense. I was treated by another pethetic excuse for a defense on the other side of the ball... If anything, it was a blessing to see just how weak both teams were yesterday.

[Pat Bowlen]

amazing what trolls come out after a chiefs win
Not really, all things considered.

[SDChiefsfan]

Blessing the Chiefs with a victory? Hell, I was laughing at their pathetic excuse for a defense. I was treated by another pethetic excuse for a defense on the other side of the ball... If anything, it was a blessing to see just how weak both teams were yesterday.

Sour grapes, TJ. Whatever, dude.

I'll say it now: The Donks will NOT sweep the Raiders.

What will be your excuse then? :boxing:

[Bronx33]

Sour grapes, TJ. Whatever, dude.

I'll say it now: The Donks will NOT sweep the Raiders.

What will be your excuse then? :boxing:

And i thought the mullets would kill the faiders and well you saw the struggle..........nuff said.

[SDChiefsfan]

And i thought the mullets would kill the faiders and well you saw the struggle..........nuff said.

Yeah, you know inter-division games: throw out the records.

Also, Surtain, Holmes, and Roaf out.....didn't help.

[Taco John]

Sour grapes, TJ. Whatever, dude.

I'll say it now: The Donks will NOT sweep the Raiders.

What will be your excuse then? :boxing:



Oh well hell... If you said it now, I guess I should be concerned... :bs:

[Taco John]

Also, what do you mean sour grapes? Sour grapes only come when you lose. We didn't lose. The Raiders did. I assure you I have no sour grapes over a Raiders loss.

[Saulbadguy]

Blessing the Chiefs with a victory? Hell, I was laughing at their pathetic excuse for a defense. I was treated by another pethetic excuse for a defense on the other side of the ball... If anything, it was a blessing to see just how weak both teams were yesterday.
Thanks again! :notworthy

[Taco John]

No. Thank you. If it wasn't for your team choking in the Mile High Air, you guys would be division leaders right now.

[Rausch]

amazing what trolls come out after a chiefs win

Hey, I've been talking $#it on here for years...Nnyah!

[Bronx33]

Thanks again! :notworthy

I wanna kick your avatar in the face.......:~ohyah!:

[Bronx33]

Yeah, you know inter-division games: throw out the records.

Also, Surtain, Holmes, and Roaf out.....didn't help.

Excuses are like a-holes blah blah blah.......

[SDChiefsfan]

Excuses are like a-holes blah blah blah.......

I'll remember that if the Donks get whooped by the homies from the Bay.

Hell, I can see Denver gettin' swept by the Faders, if they play like they've been playin' the last month. :P

[Crushaholic]

Hell, I can see Denver gettin' swept by the Faders, if they play like they've been playin' the last month. :P

You mean, winning?

If we play like we've been playing the last month, we'll be 7-2. Thank you for your support...:welcome:

[Bronx33]

I'll remember that if the Donks get whooped by the homies from the Bay.

Hell, I can see Denver gettin' swept by the Faders, if they play like they've been playin' the last month. :P


Remember what? and how did we play last month? we went 4-1 last month and the month before that we are 2-1 which included your beat down in mile high.I tell ya what slugger you have nothing to stand on or run your piehole about so just stop you look foolish.

[SDChiefsfan]

You mean, winning?

If we play like we've been playing the last month, we'll be 7-2. Thank you for your support...:welcome:

I meant the way the Faders have been playing: much better of late.

[SDChiefsfan]

Remember what? and how did we play last month? we went 4-1 last month and the month before that we are 2-1 which included your beat down in mile high.I tell ya what slugger you have nothing to stand on or run your piehole about so just stop you look foolish.

The Faders have won 3 of 5: their offense will give you guys a tough time. Guess we'll see.

I do remember you guys making lots of excuses about that Giant game, centering mainly on whining about the refs.

[crazyhorse]

The Faders have won 3 of 5: their offense will give you guys a tough time. Guess we'll see.

I do remember you guys making lots of excuses about that Giant game, centering mainly on whining about the refs.

Yeah that and the humidity in Miami. It's just unfair to have to play under those conditions. Miami had an unfair advantage. The NFL hates the Broncos.

[crazyhorse]

You mean, winning?

If we play like we've been playing the last month, we'll be 7-2. Thank you for your support...:welcome:

Havent you guys been losing most of the road games? You probably will beat the Raiders though. It will be the passing of the torch to the new Faders of the AFC West. The recent habit of late season slides with the Broncos, it's only fair they relinquish thier crown.

It may not be as prestigious as the preseason championship ring you won this year, but I feel you will wear it well.

[24champ]

Havent you guys been losing most of the road games? You probably will beat the Raiders though. It will be the passing of the torch to the new Faders of the AFC West. The recent habit of late season slides with the Broncos, it's only fair they relinquish thier crown.

It may not be as prestigious as the preseason championship ring you won this year, but I feel you will wear it well.
Yeah you guys have won the off-season superbowl 4 years running!rofl

Cute rings to go with it.

http://altura.speedera.net/ccimg.catalogcity.com/190000/195400/195477/Products/6011368.jpg

[crazyhorse]

Yeah you guys have won the off-season superbowl 4 years running!rofl

Cute rings to go with it.

http://altura.speedera.net/ccimg.catalogcity.com/190000/195400/195477/Products/6011368.jpg

After seeing the Donks draft Clarett in the 3rd, I thought it was a lock. We thought the Broncos were forefitting

[24champ]

After seeing the Donks draft Clarett in the 3rd, I thought it was a lock. We thought the Broncos were forefitting
well of course theres the 3 corners we picked that are better than your whole secondary combined.

[Bronx33]

well of course theres the 3 corners we picked that are better than your whole secondary combined.


OUCH! that going to leave a mark.

[Crushaholic]

Havent you guys been losing most of the road games?

The Miami game was an anomaly, because we have been playing very well since Week 1. We went down to Jacksonville and won. The Giants game was a heartbreaker, but I don't expect future road games to end up like that. I think Collins is in real trouble with Al Wilson and company bearing down on him...

[crazyhorse]

well of course theres the 3 corners we picked that are better than your whole secondary combined.

You should make a slight correction here.

You chose 3 corners this season. But you spent crazy dollars in FA over the last several years. You have spent several picks on CBs in attempt to buy talent the Broncos could not develop. Then Finally you trade your best offensive player to pick up a DB that cost half the cap. After getting beat way more than a corner of that cost should get beat, Planny is back in the same boat. Too much money, tied up in a player that does not justify the cost.

So finally, takes the quantity over quality approach in the draft and spends half the picks on CBs. So after several years, and several players, and several failed projects, he finally get's a little bit of something, if for no other reason than sheer numbers.

Hell, if the chiefs brought 150 CBs through the organization in the last few years, they might hit on a player with potential. But who would do that?

Yeah Planny has really built a powerhouse secondary. Arent they in the bottom half of the league? Anyhow, I think KCs defense is giving up 20 yards a game more than the Donks and getting better. While the Broncos continue to show weakness. Especially in the second half of games.

If we ever get our starting secondary in the game at the same time, there is no question they would be better than Denver. They practically are now with the backups.

For now however, I will let you have bragging rights on your secondary. I mean, you guys sure paid for it. ROFL!

[BMF Bronco]

You should make a slight correction here.

You chose 3 corners this season. But you spent crazy dollars in FA over the last several years. You have spent several picks on CBs in attempt to buy talent the Broncos could not develop. Then Finally you trade your best offensive player to pick up a DB that cost half the cap. After getting beat way more than a corner of that cost should get beat, Planny is back in the same boat. Too much money, tied up in a player that does not justify the cost.

So finally, takes the quantity over quality approach in the draft and spends half the picks on CBs. So after several years, and several players, and several failed projects, he finally get's a little bit of something, if for no other reason than sheer numbers.

Hell, if the chiefs brought 150 CBs through the organization in the last few years, they might hit on a player with potential. But who would do that?

Yeah Planny has really built a powerhouse secondary. Arent they in the bottom half of the league? Anyhow, I think KCs defense is giving up 20 yards a game more than the Donks and getting better. While the Broncos continue to show weakness. Especially in the second half of games.

If we ever get our starting secondary in the game at the same time, there is no question they would be better than Denver. They practically are now with the backups.

For now however, I will let you have bragging rights on your secondary. I mean, you guys sure paid for it. ROFL!
And what have you been doing with your defense lately, only without the improvement?!

[Mile High Shack]

You should make a slight correction here.

You chose 3 corners this season. But you spent crazy dollars in FA over the last several years. You have spent several picks on CBs in attempt to buy talent the Broncos could not develop. Then Finally you trade your best offensive player to pick up a DB that cost half the cap. After getting beat way more than a corner of that cost should get beat, Planny is back in the same boat. Too much money, tied up in a player that does not justify the cost.

So finally, takes the quantity over quality approach in the draft and spends half the picks on CBs. So after several years, and several players, and several failed projects, he finally get's a little bit of something, if for no other reason than sheer numbers.

Hell, if the chiefs brought 150 CBs through the organization in the last few years, they might hit on a player with potential. But who would do that?

Yeah Planny has really built a powerhouse secondary. Arent they in the bottom half of the league? Anyhow, I think KCs defense is giving up 20 yards a game more than the Donks and getting better. While the Broncos continue to show weakness. Especially in the second half of games.

If we ever get our starting secondary in the game at the same time, there is no question they would be better than Denver. They practically are now with the backups.

For now however, I will let you have bragging rights on your secondary. I mean, you guys sure paid for it. ROFL!

you guys only have 2 healthy cbs all year long

and both be rookies and see how well you do

on top of that one of those rookies missed one game due to injury

[orange 4 life]

Yeah that and the humidity in Miami. It's just unfair to have to play under those conditions. Miami had an unfair advantage. The NFL hates the Broncos.

ive held the same philosophy with regards to refs for a long time now.

a good team needs to find a way to win games despite some bad calls.
theyre not all going to go your way, so you better figure out how to overcome them.
that said, a bad call is still a bad call.

we shouldve won the game regardless (especially considering the 13 point lead), but a few of the calls were so horrendous as to require review by the officiating committee.
the block in the back during lelies catch and run simply didnt happen.
the holding call on foster was questionable at best.
fine with me if you want to call it, but to call that (especially on the heels of the bad call on lelies catch), you damn well better call it both ways, and gerard warren was running in place on a few different occasions.
fact is, those were two bad calls, and they cost us points.

yes, we shouldve won the game anyway, but that doesnt change that those were game changing calls, and VERY bad ones.

jake

[24champ]

You should make a slight correction here
ROFL!

You chose 3 corners this season. But you spent crazy dollars in FA over the last several years. You have spent several picks on CBs in attempt to buy talent the Broncos could not develop. Then Finally you trade your best offensive player to pick up a DB that cost half the cap. After getting beat way more than a corner of that cost should get beat, Planny is back in the same boat. Too much money, tied up in a player that does not justify the cost.

What does champ have to do with this? I merely said our 3 rookies are better than your your secondary combined. THEY STAY OUT OF JAIL TOO!Yikes!

Since you bring Champ up he won the game for us against the chargers this year, Foxworth did the same in TWO games once against the Jags and another against the Eagles. I have yet to see your secondary do anything productive as was the case this week, you want to know why Vermeil went for it at the end of the game? Your secondary sucked and he didnt have faith in the defense pulling it off in OT.
So finally, takes the quantity over quality approach in the draft and spends half the picks on CBs. So after several years, and several players, and several failed projects, he finally get's a little bit of something, if for no other reason than sheer numbers.


Your right Shanny just picks the Corners name out of a hat and then drafts them.:thumbsup: Good take you idiot.

Hell, if the chiefs brought 150 CBs through the organization in the last few years, they might hit on a player with potential. But who would do that?


The chiefs would considering their crappy secondary.

Yeah Planny has really built a powerhouse secondary. Arent they in the bottom half of the league? Anyhow, I think KCs defense is giving up 20 yards a game more than the Donks and getting better. While the Broncos continue to show weakness. Especially in the second half of games.

Not too long ago Antonio Gates ripped your secondary a new hole, i mean literally a new hole. If you looked at the stats for that game you would wonder if the secondary paid attention to Gates at all. Rod Smith owned the chiefs again earlier this year, Eagles started throwing the ball and made an improbable comeback, Fade come back from a 9-20 defecit by throwing the ball.
If we ever get our starting secondary in the game at the same time, there is no question they would be better than Denver. They practically are now with the backups.

Well Champ was injured in most of the games he has played in, i guess your corners are a bunch of P***ies or maybe they are faking injuries ( TO told me)ROFL!

For now however, I will let you have bragging rights on your secondary. I mean, you guys sure paid for it.

Its paying off too. 6-2 dipstick.:~ohyah!:

[crazyhorse]

ROFL!


What does champ have to do with this? I merely said our 3 rookies are better than your your secondary combined. THEY STAY OUT OF JAIL TOO!Yikes!

Since you bring Champ up he won the game for us against the chargers this year, Foxworth did the same in TWO games once against the Jags and another against the Eagles. I have yet to see your secondary do anything productive as was the case this week, you want to know why Vermeil went for it at the end of the game? Your secondary sucked and he didnt have faith in the defense pulling it off in OT.


Your right Shanny just picks the Corners name out of a hat and then drafts them.:thumbsup: Good take you idiot.



The chiefs would considering their crappy secondary.


Not too long ago Antonio Gates ripped your secondary a new hole, i mean literally a new hole. If you looked at the stats for that game you would wonder if the secondary paid attention to Gates at all. Rod Smith owned the chiefs again earlier this year, Eagles started throwing the ball and made an improbable comeback, Fade come back from a 9-20 defecit by throwing the ball.


Well Champ was injured in most of the games he has played in, i guess your corners are a bunch of P***ies or maybe they are faking injuries ( TO told me)ROFL!



Its paying off too. 6-2 dipstick.:~ohyah!:


Enjoy your 6-2 record but dont get too comfortable. You wont get to play in your house all season. Those second half disappearing acts by your defense will come back to bite you soon enough.

Champ is over rated. He is a good corner. But not a 60 million dollar man. You see the difference between you and I, is the fact that I dont pretend the Chiefs D backs are the best in the game. Those rooks have made several mistakes this season. Benny Sapp makes plays too. He get's beat too. But one of the reasons is because they go at him a lot. It doesn't make him a good player.

Finally, what is that dance that Bailey does when get get burned for a long gainer? It's good to see that the rooks aren't pulling up when they get beat. But then they dont have the responsibility of upholding a reputation that quite frankly, is overblown.

The dance is kinda cool though. What do you call that?

"The Limp Bailey"?

[Bronx33]

Enjoy your 6-2 record but dont get too comfortable. You wont get to play in your house all season. Those second half disappearing acts by your defense will come back to bite you soon enough.

Champ is over rated. He is a good corner. But not a 60 million dollar man. You see the difference between you and I, is the fact that I dont pretend the Chiefs D backs are the best in the game. Those rooks have made several mistakes this season. Benny Sapp makes plays too. He get's beat too. But one of the reasons is because they go at him a lot. It doesn't make him a good player.

Finally, what is that dance that Bailey does when get get burned for a long gainer? It's good to see that the rooks aren't pulling up when they get beat. But then they dont have the responsibility of upholding a reputation that quite frankly, is overblown.

The dance is kinda cool though. What do you call that?

"The Limp Bailey"?

And you enjoy your defense while it lasts.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

you want to know why Vermeil went for it at the end of the game? Your secondary sucked and he didnt have faith in the defense pulling it off in OT. [/B]

:

Of course! We our nickel and dime backs filling the starting roles by the end of the 4th quarter.

[24champ]

Enjoy your 6-2 record but dont get too comfortable. You wont get to play in your house all season. Those second half disappearing acts by your defense will come back to bite you soon enough.
Not if we have foxy!_i_O_i_

Champ is over rated. He is a good corner. But not a 60 million dollar man. You see the difference between you and I, is the fact that I dont pretend the Chiefs D backs are the best in the game. Those rooks have made several mistakes this season. Benny Sapp makes plays too. He get's beat too. But one of the reasons is because they go at him a lot. It doesn't make him a good player.

Spin baby Spin! Hilarious!

I didnt say the broncos were the best secondary in the league. I merely said our 3 rookies are better than your secondary COMBINED.

Finally, what is that dance that Bailey does when get get burned for a long gainer? It's good to see that the rooks aren't pulling up when they get beat. But then they dont have the responsibility of upholding a reputation that quite frankly, is overblown.
The dance is kinda cool though. What do you call that?

"The Limp Bailey"?

He is upholding his rep moron.....

So who's the best corner? We solicited the help of some of the game's best receivers to find out. Not surprisingly, Bailey was mentioned a bunch. In our mind, he's the best. But Baltimore's Chris McAlister received a lot of support from the players as well.

Michael Clayton, Tampa Bay Buccaneers: "Champ Bailey. He's strong and quick and everywhere he goes he tries to stick on you. He brings it to another level when he competes."

Drew Bennett, Tennessee Titans: "Champ Bailey. He has it all. He's fast. He's quick. He can do it all. He's definitely the best I've faced so far. He's a lockdown guy. He's the guy their coach can say, 'You take him. I don't want to see him catch any balls.' I only caught two balls against him last year; it was a good challenge. There were some routes he covered me on that I hadn't been covered on the previous weeks. It was a challenge. Playing him makes me want to play better."

Andre Johnson Houston Texans: "Champ Bailey. Right now Champ's the only guy who can still go out and play the No. 1 receiver man to man. That makes him special. I haven't played against a lot of corners since this is my third year, but he's the best. Another one to watch is Jacksonville's Rashean Mathis. We've had some good battles"
http://cbs.sportsline.com/nfl/story/8797277

[Mile High Shack]

Enjoy your 6-2 record but dont get too comfortable. You wont get to play in your house all season. Those second half disappearing acts by your defense will come back to bite you soon enough.

Champ is over rated. He is a good corner. But not a 60 million dollar man. You see the difference between you and I, is the fact that I dont pretend the Chiefs D backs are the best in the game. Those rooks have made several mistakes this season. Benny Sapp makes plays too. He get's beat too. But one of the reasons is because they go at him a lot. It doesn't make him a good player.

Finally, what is that dance that Bailey does when get get burned for a long gainer? It's good to see that the rooks aren't pulling up when they get beat. But then they dont have the responsibility of upholding a reputation that quite frankly, is overblown.

The dance is kinda cool though. What do you call that?

"The Limp Bailey"?


have you checked out Vermeil's 2nd half season record vs. Shanny's?

little guess here...they are the SAME!!!!

[Bob's your Information Minister]

our 3 rookies are better than your secondary COMBINED.


That's just ridiculous.

[24champ]

That's just ridiculous.
I KNOW! Shanny is a genious!

[Mile High Shack]

That's just ridiculous.

no

I'd take our 2 rookies over your 2 guys starting for you at CB...especially when you consider they are only going to get better while your CBs are topped out talent wise

[Bob's your Information Minister]

no

I'd take our 2 rookies over your 2 guys starting for you at CB...especially when you consider they are only going to get better while your CBs are topped out talent wise

That's really funny. ROFL!

[Mile High Shack]

That's really funny. ROFL!

I know, your secondary is pretty pathetic, it makes me laugh too

[24champ]

I know, your secondary is pretty pathetic, it makes me laugh too
It makes us all laugh!ROFL!

[Bob's your Information Minister]

I heard we were allowing 16 more passing yards per game than you.

[Mile High Shack]

I heard we were allowing 16 more passing yards per game than you.

I know and what is funny is...we have rookies who are only going to get better...........you all are maxed out

[24champ]

I heard we were allowing 16 more passing yards per game than you.

I heard we have 7 interceptions and you have 5. Of those 5 how many were returned for a TD BOOB?

[Bob's your Information Minister]

I know and what is funny is...we have rookies who are only going to get better...........you all are maxed out

Well gee. Using that logic you would take a young player with potential over every veteran.

[BRONCCRUSHFAN]

Seriously....bite me! Trent Green did his best Joe Montana impersonation.

CHIEFS!
Interesting coming from a closet Broncos fan, who flip flops worse than most politicians.

[Mile High Shack]

Well gee. Using that logic you would take a young player with potential over every veteran.

your veterans compared to our rookies??

damn straight

[crazyhorse]

I know and what is funny is...we have rookies who are only going to get better...........you all are maxed out

We havent had the 2 starting corners in a game all season. How is that "maxed out"?

[crazyhorse]

I heard we have 7 interceptions and you have 5. Of those 5 how many were returned for a TD BOOB?

Hey now, If I have learned anything from you it's that stats mean nothing. If they did, I might use Jared Allens 5 sacks and 5 forced fumbles as a comparison to the entire defensive line of the Broncos. I think if you add them all up, the Browncos new D line, and the original Broncos line they may have 6 sacks and a FF.

[Rausch]

OUCH! that going to leave a mark.

I bet it does considering the best CB you've drafted now plays in Cinci...

[24champ]

Hey now, If I have learned anything from you it's that stats mean nothing. If they did, I might use Jared Allens 5 sacks and 5 forced fumbles as a comparison to the entire defensive line of the Broncos. I think if you add them all up, the Browncos new D line, and the original Broncos line they may have 6 sacks and a FF.

Problem is we arent comparing the defensive line numbnuts we are talking about the corners.

[Rausch]

Problem is we arent comparing the defensive line numbnuts we are talking about the corners.

And of course one doesn't lead to the other...:twitch:

[24champ]

And of course one doesn't lead to the other...:twitch:
right on cue,another queef fan. What happened crap planet crashed?

[Bronx33]

I bet it does considering the best CB you've drafted now plays in Cinci...


Do you have a point rash?

[crazyhorse]

Problem is we arent comparing the defensive line numbnuts we are talking about the corners.

You do realize that you are overstaing how good your secondary is, don't you? Do you really feel like your 2 rookie corners are better than Warfield and Surtain?

If you really want to beat this dead horse, then go ahead. Tell us all just how good your rookie corners are and why they are better than Warfield and Surtain.

I was willing to conceed the point about your secondary being better than ours. Not because I really feel that they are but because it's hard to argue the point when looking at the numbers.

But when you come straight out and say these two rooks are soooooo good that they are better than Warfield and Surtain, I have to call BS. Not only are they not better, but neither of those rooks are better than Warfield.

I can appreciate your excitement. But those guys haven't done jack. Except get thrown at a lot.

[Mile High Shack]

You do realize that you are overstaing how good your secondary is, don't you? Do you really feel like your 2 rookie corners are better than Warfield and Surtain?

If you really want to beat this dead horse, then go ahead. Tell us all just how good your rookie corners are and why they are better than Warfield and Surtain.

I was willing to conceed the point about your secondary being better than ours. Not because I really feel that they are but because it's hard to argue the point when looking at the numbers.

But when you come straight out and say these two rooks are soooooo good that they are better than Warfield and Surtain, I have to call BS. Not only are they not better, but neither of those rooks are better than Warfield.

I can appreciate your excitement. But those guys haven't done jack. Except get thrown at a lot.

I can tell you without one doubt in my mind

when Champ is at least 90%, we are about 50% better than your secondary....on a bad day

[Mile High Shack]

I bet it does considering the best CB you've drafted now plays in Cinci...

Darrent Williams and Dominique Foxworth got traded to Cinncy?

[crazyhorse]

I can tell you without one doubt in my mind

when Champ is at least 90%, we are about 50% better than your secondary....on a bad day

I thought he was saying the 2 rookies were better than Warfield and Surtain. I guess until Champ get's on the field, he will continue to be the "best CB in the NFL". It's hard to get beat deep sitting on the bench. But when he's in, he's been getting beat.

However, Bailey was not the issue. It was the rookie corners he was talking about.

Do you agree with him that the rooks are better than our 2 starting CBs?

[Mile High Shack]

I thought he was saying the 2 rookies were better than Warfield and Surtain. I guess until Champ get's on the field, he will continue to be the "best CB in the NFL". It's hard to get beat deep sitting on the bench. But when he's in, he's been getting beat.

However, Bailey was not the issue. It was the rookie corners he was talking about.

Do you agree with him that the rooks are better than our 2 starting CBs?

as of right now?

I know they are better than "toast" Warfield, but Surtain is probably better right now

now...next year...with a year under their belts...and only getting better, I say they will be better

but as of right now.......Surtain is better, but Warfield has sucked baws for a long time and there is no changing that

[NaptownChief]

ok enough of this....50 bucks says we knock you chorfs into the dirt in December.

Let's go Nap. It's been over a year since we've had a bet. I want to catch you while you are on this delusional high about your team.



Meck,

You use Paypal? If so I will PM you my account.

Thx for the early Christmas present.

[Dross]

owned

[Rulon Velvet Jones]

What was owned?

****ing no-name lurking idiot.

[Dross]

What was owned?

****ing no-name lurking idiot.

Meck.

[Dross]

I thought that part was obvious....

[Rulon Velvet Jones]

What, that he had to pay a bet?

Wow.

You really got him on that one.

No one has ever had to pay off a bet before. Call the newspapers.

[WakeUpCall]

Wow, this has been a pure strike-out post for the Donks. First we beat the Raiders, now we beat them. I guess rest well their last big win in Big-D. To bad we couldn't have loaned Dallas a kicker for the day!!

[Dross]

What, that he had to pay a bet?

Wow.

You really got him on that one.

No one has ever had to pay off a bet before. Call the newspapers.

You're right, Meck's bet didn't blow up in his face at all. He totally came out on top here.