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TheReverend
11-03-2005, 08:01 PM
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Giving up on 2005? Here are your guys
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The season has hit its halfway point and as stated in this space last week, this is the time when teams truly begin to see if there is hope for this year. For those whose hope is quickly waning, we have answers — answers in the form of help who could be on the way in 2006.

Even for teams on the rise, unrestricted free agency has turned the NFL into a 52-week business. Forget baseball's hot stove, the NFL's free agency and draft has turned the off-season into a feeding frenzy.
For those looking for anyone who can be of service in a year, FOXSports.com delivers the best unrestricted free agents slated to hit the open market after this season. We first give the top 10 unrestricted free agents, then break it down by position.

Remember though, this list will be greatly altered by the time March rolls around. Some names will be either re-signed or hit with the dreaded Franchise tag while other players will join the ranks thanks to voids in their deals and salary cap cuts.


The top 10
Colts RB Edgerrin James — MVP of the first half of this season. How much of that is his desire to get paid? Probably not much, as he's always played with solid consistency. He's an annual Pro Bowl threat.

Jets DE John Abraham — Can play DE in a 4-3 or LB in a 3-4 scheme. Abraham is one of the league's best pass rushers, always a premium.

Chargers QB Drew Brees — Best player at the team's most important position. In another year he probably wouldn't rate this high but teams looking for a veteran QB don't really have any other options.

Saints OG LeCharles Bentley — This guy is a complete beast and has shown great versatility by starring at center and guard. He's also got that great mean streak that the great offensive linemen possess.


If the Seahawks and Shaun Alexander can't hammer a deal out, there will be plenty of interest in the back. (Otto Greule Jr. / Getty Images)

Seattle RB Shaun Alexander — Seattle has had serious talks recently with Alexander and even exchanged contract proposals. Positive: Alexander is the best red-zone back in the NFL. Negative: Shows little interest in blocking and receiving.

49ers' LB Julian Peterson — Doubtful the Niners let him get away again but he, like Abraham, has shown great versatility.

Seahawks' G Steve Hutchinson — The second-best lineman on the open market. He's a true Pro Bowl player a solid team guy.

Ravens RB Jamal Lewis — Lewis has struggled this year. Still, he may end up being the most enticing option. Most of his problems this year were due to his lack of rehab time and work due to incarceration and a putrid offensive line. Put this tank on another team and he's back to Pro Bowl form.

Eagles RB Brian Westbrook — Westbrook and the Eagles have been in very serious contract talks recently, but if they can't get something done, he'll have a decent market in a crowded class.

Patriots K Adam Vinatieri — Mariano Rivera of the NFL.


UFAs by position

Offense
RBs — This is the deepest position in free agency, even with two of the top five in serious contract talks right now. The RB group is highlighted by Colts' Edgerrin James, Seattle's Shaun Alexander, Baltimore's Jamal Lewis, Philly's Brian Westbrook and Green Bay's Ahman Green. Carolina's DeShaun Foster has had durability concerns but should get some love on the open market as well. Green's stock will take a hit with his latest injury.

QBs — This is an abysmal group. One man and one man only will hit like he's nailed the triple Tabasco sauce in a Vegas progressive slot and that's the Bolts' Drew Brees. One way or the other he'll get a massive payday in 2006. The Bengals' Jon Kitna may be the best option in this group after Brees. After Brees and Kitna it drops down to the Cards' Josh McCown, who has actually lost his job to Kurt Warner. After McCown comes the Panthers' Chris Weinke and Lions' Jeff Garcia. Jamie Martin and Anthony Wright round out a poor list.

WR — Looking for a top-flight burner? Better look in the draft. Pitt's Antwan Randle-El is tops on another weak list. Indy's Reggie Wayne and New England's David Givens round out the top three. After this trio, however, we get into guys who have already been castoff elsewhere, like Joe Jurevicius (who may be a nice pickup for a team with a burner on one side) and then, well, the list really goes south (i.e. Peter Warrick, Rod Gardner).

TE — Not a bad group but nothing that would dazzle anyone either. The Cowboys' Dan Campbell is a great team guy and does the little things that often go unnoticed. The Jets' Chris Baker is a solid receiver and New England's Christian Fuaria is a legitimate red-zone target. Pittsburgh's Jerame Tuman, San Diego's Justin Peele and Matt Schobel of the Bengals round out a pretty good group.

C — This is highlighted by the Saints' Pro Bowler LeCharles Bentley. The Packers' Mike Flanagan is a proven, solid vet who recently had a sports hernia surgery. He's not a star like Bentley but he's an upgrade to many rosters and great with the QB. Carolina's Jeff Mitchell and Miami's Seth McKinney, Justin Hartwick of Tennessee and Buffalo's Trey Teague finish the list.

OT — The Lions' Jeff Backus, Falcons' athletic tackle Kevin Shaffer and New England's Tom Ashworth and Jon Runyan of the Eagles highlight this group. Backus is clearly the cream of this crop. Runyan is 33 years old and won't get paid like in the past. Then it drops down to a guy like Green Bay backup Kevin Barry, a massive body who is used as the team's third tackle and the Jags' Mike Pearson.

OG — One name stands out and that's Steve Hutchinson of the Seahawks. After the strong former first-round pick comes guys like the Pats' Steve Neal and the Bears' Terrance Metcalf. Neal isn't bad but Metcalf isn't exactly what one would call the athletic type. Ouch, rough group.


Defense
DE — This position is much, much deeper than the interior linemen who are free. The Jets' John Abraham leads the list followed by New Orleans' Darren Howard. Both were hit with the franchise tag last year. The Colts' Raheem Brock also helps to round out a pretty clear top three. Green Bay's rough, workmanlike and underrated Aaron Kampman as well as the solid Anthony Weaver of Baltimore comprise the next level. A wild card in this bunch is Tennessee's Kyle Vanden Bosch. When healthy his gas tank is always full. But teams will always be concerned with his injury history.

DT — Very bad group. There is no A-list name at this position. List is highlighted (although this is probably not the proper word) by guys like the Colts' Larry Triplett, the Rams' Ryan Pickett and Damione Lewis, rejuvenated Buc Chris Hovan and Packers' mammoth Grady Jackson. Lional Dalton of the Ravens rounds out the list.

OLB — The 49ers' Julian Peterson has rebounded well from his Achilles' injury and it's doubtful they'll let him bolt but he leads this group. The Panthers' Will Witherspoon isn't a huge name but he's a very good player. The Colts' David Thornton and Chargers' Ben Leber are also thrown into the mix. The Giants' Nick Griesen is a guy who can play inside and outside and in his first year as a full-time starter has helped the first-place Giants D.

ILB — Worst group on the board. Earl Holmes of Detroit, the Browns' Andre Davis and Niner Derek Smith lead the way.

CB — The Bills' Nate Clements is a bona-fide No. 1 corner as is Charles Woodson but he's hurt, which will surely hurt his stock.. The Giants' Will Allen and Bears' Jerry Azumah are next. 'Zum is also a Pro Bowl special teams player and when healthy he's a true threat to make a play. The Broncos have pretty much already parted ways with Lenny Walls, who should cash in considering his size. More third corners on this list than No. 1s.

S — This is a pretty decent group highlighted by the likes of Tank Williams of the Titans, the Rams' Adam Archuleta and Steelers' Chris Hope. Corey Chavous of the Vikings is also a solid player; he's followed by the Ravens' Will Demps and Fins' Lance Schulters.

K — Adam Vinatieri, one of the greatest closers in sports history, Neil Rackers and Mike Vanderjagt highlight this group.

Hercules Rockefeller
11-03-2005, 08:14 PM
Hutchinson

TheReverend
11-03-2005, 08:21 PM
Chavous or Archulletta would make me feel more comfortable about using our #1s breeding more O-linemen.

Dagmar
11-03-2005, 08:24 PM
Alexander and James :wave:

Clockwork Orange
11-03-2005, 08:35 PM
Nab Hutchinson & Chavous and I'll be a happy guy.

Vegas_Bronco
11-03-2005, 08:38 PM
Bring in a new Kicker to get Elam to wake the hell up.

Clockwork Orange
11-03-2005, 08:42 PM
Bring in a new Kicker to get Elam to wake the hell up.

Keep Elam until we can get this guy.

http://media.scout.com/Media/Image/20/208746.jpg

Odysseus
11-03-2005, 09:02 PM
Bad new: The fact there are not many DT means the Draft is going to nasty when it comes to picking up DT and one of the guys on our line could probably get paid more than he's worth.

Good news: Our First round draft picks suddenly are hot property which could give us leverage to get whatever we want. I'll give the first for this player and futures pick comes to mind.

Hutchinson looks promising.

Dagmar
11-03-2005, 09:05 PM
Keep Elam until we can get this guy.

http://media.scout.com/Media/Image/20/208746.jpg

He would SO do. I keep fearing he'll hit my apartment from Folsom...

Bob's your Information Minister
11-03-2005, 09:10 PM
KC could use Bentley to replace Shields.

Ballhawk
11-03-2005, 09:16 PM
KC could use Bentley to replace Shields.

Bentley could use KC to get a better contract :thumbs:

GreatBronco16
11-03-2005, 09:20 PM
I wonder how Westbrook could do in Denvers System. We all know he can catch the ball, so then Shanny could get the empty backfield play to work half the time.

Bob's your Information Minister
11-03-2005, 09:27 PM
Why even speculate? Shanahan doesn't want to shell out for a RB.

Dagmar
11-03-2005, 09:30 PM
Why even speculate? Shanahan doesn't want to shell out for a RB.
With Thunder and Lightning, why would he need too?

Clockwork Orange
11-03-2005, 10:48 PM
Why even speculate? Shanahan doesn't have to shell out for a RB.

Fixed it for you.

listopencil
11-03-2005, 11:17 PM
Lional Dalton of the Ravens rounds out the list.


The Ravens have Dalton now? Anyway, a Guard would be nice.

Drek
11-04-2005, 05:17 AM
Hutch would be nice, but he's gonna get PAID. If Lepsis asks for nutty money I'd rather see them go to Hutchinson myself though.

Lynch's deal expiring after this season? If so I'd like to turn that $2-$3M in cap we've already locked up with him over to Archuletta. He's a playmaker, the only one on the Rams, he'd be a huge addition to our secondary. Covers, stops the run, forces fumbles, you name it, he's a beast.

Steve Neal would be a nice steal off the Pats if Hutchinson gets paid too much and we wan to go with a vet and then draft a rookie to compete for the spot. I'm not too worried about OL outside of resigning Lepsis at this point (not sure if he'll ask for reasonable money, which is the only way I keep him). Cooper has stepped up and earned his spot on the line this year, Foster is progressing very well, and Hamilton is still a guy we can rely on. I say resign Lepsis, draft the best available OG or C with our 2nd, the other position with a 3rd rounder (hopefully we'll do well in compositional picks again), then sign someone like Neal to fight it out with Meyers and the rookies for the last starting spot.

-Slap-
11-04-2005, 05:25 AM
Hutchinson
He's the best player on the list. Whatever Wahle or Rivera got last year, Hutch will surely surpass this year.

Ballhawk
11-04-2005, 05:28 AM
He's the best player on the list. Whatever Wahle or Rivera got last year, Hutch will surely surpass this year.

I would much rather spend the $$$ on CB, Warren, and Lepsis and go get the top Guard in next years draft. We need to target Darnell Bing and Oline next year with the top 3 picks and use our $$$ to resign our guys.

watermock
11-04-2005, 05:28 AM
Shut up Boob...

Denver needs to re-sign or renegotiate a couple contracts, Nalen and Pryce..we have boatload of picks...

Jens1893
11-04-2005, 05:29 AM
i could live with archuleta

-Slap-
11-04-2005, 05:33 AM
I would much rather spend the $$$ on CB, Warren, and Lepsis and go get the top Guard in next years draft. We need to target Darnell Bing and Oline next year with the top 3 picks and use our $$$ to resign our guys.
I don't see it happening, either. Last year I was hoping for Wahle, but I'm satisfied with the improvement Carlisle has shown this season. I can't imagine Seattle letting him get away, but they've painted themselves into a corner with a lot of high profile free agents coming up at once.

-Slap-
11-04-2005, 05:35 AM
i could live with archuleta
I like Archuleta, too. There are actually three or four safeties who could help us out. I'm still holding out hope that we can land Barney's kid in a Bronco uniform one day.

Ballhawk
11-04-2005, 05:56 AM
I don't see it happening, either. Last year I was hoping for Wahle, but I'm satisfied with the improvement Carlisle has shown this season. I can't imagine Seattle letting him get away, but they've painted themselves into a corner with a lot of high profile free agents coming up at once.

Its not that I dont like Hutch, but it seems that it takes a couple years for Olinemen to get the system. I really do not feel we should pay big $$$ for him to learn it. I do not mind paying a first rounder the cash, because they will be here for 6 years or so.

Ballhawk
11-04-2005, 05:58 AM
WR David Givins of NE would be a great signing...big good hands guy.

Rock Chalk
11-04-2005, 06:02 AM
Our line is clicking now, provided all return next year I see no reason to change it. Pass protection has improved and run blocking is outstanding.

BroncoInferno
11-04-2005, 06:07 AM
Our line is clicking now, provided all return next year I see no reason to change it. Pass protection has improved and run blocking is outstanding.

Everything I've read suggests Nalen will be gone after this season. If that's the case, Hamilton will move to center and we will need a guard. Hutch or Bentley would be more than fine with me.

BroncoBuff
11-04-2005, 06:17 AM
Hutchinson
Hutchinson is great - but everybody up here knows it, and they're talking big money to keep him with Walter Jones.

Actually, the roster is so deep, there are very few positions of need.

I have a revolutionary idea: Let's spend our money . . . keeping OUR guys!
Lepsis, Nalen, (no more Lenny to worry about) but either Courtney Brown or Gerard Warren are up this year . . . and then maybe a guard?

We've gotta spend a REAL BUNDLE on the draft, too - 2 #1s, plus comp picks for Kenoy, "Diamond Reg" Hayward, Kelly Herndon . . . too many picks = cap too tight!

OW, Mommy! It hurts!

BroncoBuff
11-04-2005, 06:19 AM
Keep Elam until we can get this guy.

http://media.scout.com/Media/Image/20/208746.jpg
Now HE'S a guy worth a tight cap!

Jason is what, 45?

How soon we forget . . .

broncohaven
11-04-2005, 06:41 AM
I don't see many upgrades out there that would come at a reasonable price. My guess is we might get Nalen to go one more year, but if not I think we'll survive. We have Myers, and the kid who tore his knee up looked promising. I'm also betting that we take Eslinger, the center from Minnesota. He has "Broncos Prototype" stamped all over him, and will be great in our system. Due to his size, 6'3" and 285, he'll be passed over by a lot of teams and be a great value for the Broncos.

I was going to say we need a franchise LT in the first, but I've been impressed with Lepsis this year, and think he and Foster will hold down the corners for the next few seasons at least. Nalen is really the only question mark on the OL.

With as well as we drafted last year, I think we've allowed ourselves to focus on the draft and save a lot of money. I think Signing Warren will be our #1 FA priority.

jonny1
11-04-2005, 08:48 AM
I don't think Archeleta is any more of a cover ball hawk safety than any the Broncos have right now.

Elway 4 Life
11-04-2005, 09:22 AM
We need a complete safety one who can knock the **** out of you as well as cover. Someone with a little speed. I'd like to get an ed reed type.

eddie mac
11-04-2005, 09:49 AM
I wonder how Westbrook could do in Denvers System. We all know he can catch the ball, so then Shanny could get the empty backfield play to work half the time.

Nowhere, why change the best running-back tandem in the league?

On another note entirely. Anyone else notice that there isn't 1 current Bronco player on that list?

Obviously these guys dont take into account contracts that become null and void this upcoming off-season such as Matt Lepsis, Tom Nalen etc.

Denver724
11-04-2005, 09:51 AM
I thought Warren was a free-agent?

eddie mac
11-04-2005, 09:55 AM
I thought Warren was a free-agent?

He will be unless we sign him to a new deal considering his base salary is over $6 million for next year.

ludo21
11-04-2005, 10:06 AM
Everything I've read suggests Nalen will be gone after this season. If that's the case, Hamilton will move to center and we will need a guard. Hutch or Bentley would be more than fine with me.


Ive heard Shanny may want to put Myers at C and leave Hamilton at guard. Hamilton is doing awesome! No reason to change that.

I dont agree re shaping the OL next year, leave it as is and pay LEPSIS what he wants!! Lepsis is awesome, dont let him get away, please.

ludo21
11-04-2005, 10:06 AM
He will be unless we sign him to a new deal considering his base salary is over $6 million for next year.

I believe we already signed him to a new deal, or were was it just talk?

DrFate
11-04-2005, 10:12 AM
We need an over-the-middle WR threat and/or a TE who can open the field.

Elway 4 Life
11-04-2005, 10:13 AM
We need an over-the-middle WR threat and/or a TE who can open the field.

Sir Yes Sir!

Hercules Rockefeller
11-04-2005, 01:13 PM
I thought Warren was a free-agent?

His deal voids. So he's technically under contract for next season, and why he's not on the list. I'd also bet that these guys don't know about players whose contracts void either, so they're just going off of "true" UFAs at this point.

eddie mac
11-04-2005, 03:07 PM
I believe we already signed him to a new deal, or were was it just talk?

No, not as yet although according to previous press reports Denver were looking to tie him up long-term.

yavoon
11-04-2005, 03:14 PM
yah I dont like all this draft 1st round oline talk. we can get so much out of the guys we got why go and pay for it? unless u want to switch lines and become a big line that can plow forward.

yavoon
11-04-2005, 03:16 PM
We need an over-the-middle WR threat and/or a TE who can open the field.

its been mentioned before but I'm pretty sure shanny consider putzier that unless he flops. afterall he did match the jets offer. unless u want a very expensive TE position.

Drek
11-04-2005, 03:22 PM
I don't think Archeleta is any more of a cover ball hawk safety than any the Broncos have right now. Safeties need to do more than just cover, Archuletta is an all around guy who fills the roles you ask of a SS perfectly. Steps up on the run and isn't a slouch on pass coverage. He also just makes plays.

He's miles better than any other safety we have right now as far as being an all around player, including Lynch. He's Rodney Harrision or John Lynch before they got old, if he really hits the market I hope he's our #1 target.

Drafting OL in round 1 is stupid by the way. Late first OTs, not too bad, but OG'ss and C's from the 2nd and 3rd rounds have strong success rates at much lower cost. Save the money and the high picks for skill position guys.

Broncoman13
11-05-2005, 03:06 PM
I'd really like to see the Broncos bring in Joe Jurevicous. He's 31 now but has missed a few years due to injuries. He has great size and is drastically underrated IMO... plus he's a very classy guy.

In the draft I say we do what we have to in order to draft Jimmy Williams (GB's boy... that is his name right?). Anyhow, the CB/S from VaTech. He's 6'3 and over 200#. He lays the wood, covers the oppositions best receiver....sometimes out of the safety spot! He'll likely be a top 10 draft pick, but IMO that is the last piece to make our defense SCARY! JIMMY WILLIAMS OR BUST!

Drek
11-05-2005, 03:30 PM
Where would we play Jimmy Williams? Like you said, he's a top 10-15 pick. Champ has our #1 CB spot locked up for half a decade, Williams and Foxworth are both turning out quite well. Do we really want to draft a guy who'll play safety in the top 15, especially when a) we have a bunch of pretty decent safeties b) Archuletta could be an FA and will get a contract similar to what a top 15 pick gets, and c) guys like Zibikowski out of Notre Dame could be had in the 2nd or 3rd round of the draft.

DB is one of the last places I see us going in the first round after the success we had with our first three picks in this last draft.

Broncoman13
11-05-2005, 03:47 PM
Jimmy Williams would be the perfect replacement for John Lynch. Look, I love Lynch. I love what he stands for, his intensity, how smart he is, and his great leadership skills. But, lets be honest here. He isn't exactly holding his own in coverage. You put a 6'3 covercorner that HAS safety experience in that slot and you do two things. You greatly negate the fact that two of the top 3 TE's in all of football play in the AFC West. And, you complete a young secondary and form it into one that dare I say would be as good as that of the Baltimore Ravens!

Jimmy Williams will have the stage in about an hour... watch him vs the Canes and tell me he isn't a player! The guy is better than DeAngelo Hall IMO, mainly b/c of his size.

Broncoman13
11-05-2005, 03:56 PM
Do we really want to draft a guy who'll play safety in the top 15, especially when a) we have a bunch of pretty decent safeties b) Archuletta could be an FA and will get a contract similar to what a top 15 pick gets, and c) guys like Zibikowski out of Notre Dame could be had in the 2nd or 3rd round of the draft.

DB is one of the last places I see us going in the first round after the success we had with our first three picks in this last draft.

I haven't paid too much attention to Zibikowski this season. I'll take your word that he's a player. Another guy that could last well into the second is Michael Huff from UTx. He's similar to JWill in that he's a larger CB and the Horns often put him at Safety b/c of his size... but he is great in coverage and very good in run support.

I'm not impressed with Archuleta in coverage. I've watched quite a few Rams games and the times he's been able to make a play on the ball are few. In fact he usually makes plays b/c of tipped balls... right place at the right time sort of thing and I'm not saying he's good at being in the right place. I think he's a pretty good player vs the run but overall I'd say he's slightly overrated.

I realize we drafted CB early and often last year, but where else to you thing we need an upgrade. Like Alec said earlier, there's no reason to touch the OL. Those guys are playing great! Besides that, there are several players that fit our scheme that will be available later in the draft as opposed to early on. Really we need some quality depth. I wouldn't mind any of the Texas boys. That OL is just flat out mean... you want swagger!!! UT's got it!

A coverage safety is probably the one position that this team needs... everything else would be minimal in terms of upgrades.

Also take into account that this is going to be a very weak draft at WR. I can't think of too many guys that are even deserving of a first round pick. Hagans and Nance immediately come to mind... there's more but those are the guys that have stood out to me thus far.

Broncoman13
11-05-2005, 04:17 PM
Just watched the ND highlights... looks like your boy had a pretty big day Drek. Zib had a pair of TD's on the day! Watch Jimmy Williams tonight if you have a chance. The kid has got it all!

Hercules Rockefeller
11-05-2005, 04:24 PM
c) guys like Zibikowski out of Notre Dame could be had in the 2nd or 3rd round of the draft.


Isn't he just a soph this year, or is he a RS soph?

Saw that he was an '03 recruit, that should make him draft eligible this year if he wants to go pro.

plummershelper
11-05-2005, 04:31 PM
Zibikowski and Samardzija are both boys I want in a Broncos uni. They are players!

loborugger
11-05-2005, 04:51 PM
One of those 3 kickers would be a good pick up. Elam was great but I think his days have passed. Maybe we can continue to pick up former Cardinals with Rackers???

bpc
11-05-2005, 05:25 PM
I would love to bring in Charles or Hutch and really skip over our maturation process that we give rookie OL.

Abraham is nice, but too injured all the time. Howard will command too much money for the impact he has. We are better off drafting DL.

Safety is another position that might get interesting in FA along with a vet WR... I think we could go in those directions.

Dudeskey
11-05-2005, 05:40 PM
I hate to rain on the speculatory parade here, but Denver's cap situation isn't exactly the greatest for next year unless we trade away Pryce & restructure Plummer's deal again. Especailly if Shanny wants to go after a decent FA & have room to sign our draftees.

bpc
11-05-2005, 05:41 PM
I wouldn't put us out of the race for any free agent. I have an idea will have some flexibility this year. PLUS, we are going to be able to make some moves in the draft.

sirhcyennek81
11-05-2005, 06:21 PM
If the Broncos target a particular player, they will get him one way or another. Samardjia (sp) from Notre Dame is a McCaffrey clone. Its freakish. Even the same onfield mannerisms. Would be a solid offseason if denver picks up Archuleta in FA and draft Samardjia.

Billy Clyde Puckett
11-05-2005, 06:30 PM
If the Broncos target a particular player, they will get him one way or another. Samardjia (sp) from Notre Dame is a McCaffrey clone. Its freakish. Even the same onfield mannerisms. Would be a solid offseason if denver picks up Archuleta in FA and draft Samardjia.

He will play baseball. He is a 95mph lefty. Big money.

sirhcyennek81
11-05-2005, 06:53 PM
6'5. Great hands. has 12 td's. Fantastic redzone threat, ALSO big Money.

Hercules Rockefeller
11-05-2005, 07:23 PM
I hate to rain on the speculatory parade here, but Denver's cap situation isn't exactly the greatest for next year unless we trade away Pryce & restructure Plummer's deal again. Especailly if Shanny wants to go after a decent FA & have room to sign our draftees.

We've gone over this. People both inside and outside the organization have repeatedly said they'll have more room to play this winter then in previous offseasons.

and you don't need much room to sign draft picks, even 1st round picks.

Hercules Rockefeller
11-05-2005, 07:24 PM
He will play baseball. He is a 95mph lefty. Big money.

If he's a lefty who can throw 95, WTF is he doing on the football field? Shouldn't he be in the minors somewhere?

broncohaven
11-05-2005, 07:28 PM
No way on Archuleta. There's more than one reason the Rams are at the bottom of the league defensively, and Archuleta is one of them. With a higher premium on cover safeties in today's NFL, Archuleta is a liability IMO. Archuleta is a downgrade from Sam Brandon, and I think Browner is the future at FS in Denver.

Why spend money to downgrade?

Billy Clyde Puckett
11-05-2005, 07:35 PM
If he's a lefty who can throw 95, WTF is he doing on the football field? Shouldn't he be in the minors somewhere?

He'll be a top 3 pick in the baseball draft.

Drek
11-05-2005, 08:59 PM
Archuleta is a downgrade from Sam Brandon, and I think Browner is the future at FS in Denver. Archuletta would play SS, not FS. In our system SS is still relied upon quite a bit to make plays up at the line. Archuletta could well get low balled because of his percieved lack of cover skills, but he'd work out quite well for us and would still be making only safety money. Instead you'd rather trust what, Brandon (a borderline bust who can't stay healthy) Ferguson (our biggest secondary weakness on the team now that Walls is cut), and Browner (an undrafted FA)? Sorry, I have this little thing for pro-bowl caliber run stopping SS's who also make plays in coverage. We aren't looking for Ed Reed, we're looking for someone who can take Lynch's place, letting us get away with playing our smaller, faster LBs by providing an extra tier of run support.

He'll be a top 3 pick in the baseball draft. What possibly makes you think that? You a big fan of baseball prospects? Samardzija's fastball a) isn't 95 mph, its high 80's/low 90's, b) is the only pitch he can utilize effectively and c) leaves his RIGHT hand, not his left. Its good for beating up on Big East opponents who can't handle hard heat, but he's got a long road to travel before being some elite baseball prospect. Notre Dame recruited him as a football player and nothing else, he walked onto the baseball team. Right handed fireballers who impress against mediocre college squads are a dime a dozen, typically drafted in between rounds 25-45, and wind up as bullpen arms with short careers. Samardzija can be a 1st round pick if he stays for another season, maybe even a 1st this year with how bad the WR corps are, if he puts up a sweet 40 time.

Zibikowski will almost definately wait a year before coming out. I mentioned him because I'm a huge ND fan and hope we do get him, after giving Browner, Ferguson, and Brandon a chance to fight it out for the FS spot in '06. Ideally one of the three would really take hold of the spot and keep us from having to burn a pick on a safety, but if we have to Zibikowski could be a second or third round steal.

Jimmy Williams sounds great, if he falls to us at a reasonable spot I'm all for taking him and having him play FS for years to come, but if we get lucky enough to land in the top 15 (which I doubt we will, and thats where he'd probably go) I'd GREATLY prefer DL help. Warren is producing well, Pryce is doing great but is sure getting compensated. Brown and Ekuban are doing a good job too, but a lot of these guys aren't good long term options. We've seen how valuable a strong defensive front four can be, we need to keep it that way by adding to it through the draft. Its tops on my priority list this off-season, to the point where if we did land a top 10 pick in the draft I'd want Kiwanuka or Mario Williams followed by a DT with our second 1st. Stock up while we got the chance I say. After DL I'd like to see our poor red zone/3rd down offense addressed by getting a legitimate offensive weapon (Mercedes Lewis comes to mind). Next on my heirarchy of need would be a QB or OT of the future (or the now in the OT's case if Lepsis wants too much money). We fill OG and C in rounds 2-4, where the values can be had.