View Full Version : Jake Plummer named AFC Offensive Player of the week.
easymobee
11-02-2005, 01:48 PM
Thought for sure that this would already be here, but i didn't see a thread yet.
Bruschi got the "inspirational" vote for DPOW.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ap-patriots-bruschi-playerofweek&prov=ap&type=lgns
We sure have been racking these things up this year.
Was Trevor Pryce the Def. Player of the week after the KC MNF game?
rbackfactory80
11-02-2005, 01:50 PM
Thought for sure that this would already be here, but i didn't see a thread yet.
Bruschi got the "inspirational" vote for DPOW.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ap-patriots-bruschi-playerofweek&prov=ap&type=lgns
We sure have been racking these things up this year.
Was Trevor Pryce the Def. Player of the week after the KC MNF game?
NO he just was the horse trailer I believe.
Bronco LB 59
11-02-2005, 01:51 PM
For the all the trash that has been spoken about Plummer, he is 25-10 lifetime as Broncos starter and holds an impressive 54-30 TD/INT ratio.
easymobee
11-02-2005, 01:53 PM
The above article credits Bruschi w/ 10 tackles.
The NFL.com Gamecast gives him 7 ( 2 solo ).
http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/live/NFL_20051030_BUF@NE
Did they have to inflate the numbers to make it look better?
Maybe they had the statisticians go over the game film again to farm out a few more "assists".
Rascal
11-02-2005, 01:56 PM
The fact he was even out there would be enough for my vote regardless of the team he played for...well maybe not the faiders gotta draw the line somewhere I guess.
easymobee
11-02-2005, 01:58 PM
For the all the trash that has been spoken about Plummer, he is 25-10 lifetime as Broncos starter and holds an impressive 54-30 TD/INT ratio.
It took Shanahan a few years to fix it up for him, but as of right now Plummer has evened out his career TD-INT ratio at 144-144.
My money says he throws more TD's than INT's for the rest of the year and leaves that dubious distinction in the past.
Coming from AZ his TD-INT ratio was 90-114 .... not too bad of a turnaround over 2.5 seasons with Denver.
Also its good to note that it took 6 full years in AZ for him to get 90 TD's (playing from behind there a lot) and 2.5 to get to 54 here despite having leads and a run-heavy offense here.
watermock
11-02-2005, 02:04 PM
He made 7 tackles...god it's rediculous...I think it's a great story, but let's not blow it up any more...the media is masterbating it to death....
BMF Bronco
11-02-2005, 02:05 PM
hell yeah buddy, congrats jaker!!!!!!!!!!
Play2win
11-02-2005, 02:16 PM
Way to go JAKE!!!
Teddy WHO?!?
watermock
11-02-2005, 02:19 PM
I'm growing a pornstashe...I'm serious...maybe a grizzy adams...it cuts down on maintainance...I'm going to grow a beard...mock has made up his mind...yea I'm a hairy beast capable of such a feat...dirty blonds can have beards too...I'm just scared it will be gray...I could get some just for Mock I guess...Ha!
Jake is kicking ass....keep it rollin' Jake...we knew (taco go to the back of the room) you could do it....
I'm growing a pornstashe...I'm serious...<b>maybe a grizzy adams...</b>it cuts down on maintainance...
Be sure to remember to comb out those unsightly barf chunks after a night of driving the porcelain bus.
Dagmar
11-02-2005, 02:44 PM
Jake, since the disaster (which was the ENTIRE team's fault) of Miami, has been a brilliant QB for us. He still has, like, one pass a game that scares me, but that's way down on last year. In Plummer's case, the stats don't lie.
http://i.cnn.net/si/2004/writers/b_duane_cross/04/14/must.see.games/p1_manning_getty.jpg
Superbowl forty? Sorry Peyton, it's mine.
Garcia Bronco
11-02-2005, 03:03 PM
I will no longer hold AZ against the Snake.
Hercules Rockefeller
11-02-2005, 03:05 PM
The above article credits Bruschi w/ 10 tackles.
The NFL.com Gamecast gives him 7 ( 2 solo ).
http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/live/NFL_20051030_BUF@NE
Did they have to inflate the numbers to make it look better?
Maybe they had the statisticians go over the game film again to farm out a few more "assists".
The League will cite them, but tackles are not an official stat that is recorded. 7 might be what the Leauge said he had, 10 could be what the Pats or ESPN credited him with.
Bronco_Beerslug
11-02-2005, 03:10 PM
The League will cite them, but tackles are not an official stat that is recorded. 7 might be what the Leauge said he had, 10 could be what the Pats or ESPN credited him with.
Just as official as sacks, right?
ludo21
11-02-2005, 05:41 PM
Good job Jake, rest up on this bye, and then kill the Fade!!!!!
Bruschi - "Half-God, half centaur, man i wish he was my dad" ROFL!
epicSocialism4tw
11-02-2005, 06:05 PM
Thats my boy, Jake! Keep on proving those doubters and stuck-on-Elway'ers wrong, buddy. Keep on setting Denver passing records!
watermock
11-02-2005, 06:14 PM
Just remember Jake...Taco was always in your corner, thick or thin...
Hogan11
11-02-2005, 06:14 PM
It's Klassen's fault......Ha! j/k
I've been with Jake since he won me over during the 2003 season....looks like he's settling in nicely....way to go J-Man :thumbs:
Vegas_Bronco
11-02-2005, 06:18 PM
Good job Kub, way to 'minimize' Jake's mistakes this week!
Rock Chalk
11-02-2005, 06:22 PM
Just remember Jake...Taco was always in your corner, thick or thin...
:thumbsup:
epicSocialism4tw
11-02-2005, 06:37 PM
Just remember Jake...Taco was always in your corner, thick or thin...
That's funny :D
ro_50
11-02-2005, 06:58 PM
Congrats to Jake.
RedskinBronco
11-02-2005, 07:13 PM
Jake, my man, I never doubted you for a second. :~ohyah!:
It's nice to see people get off his back for once. I think he's been treated unfairly. Arizona will always be arizona. In Denver, a lot of his INTs have come off deflections and really wacky plays. It helps that the O-line is back to getting good push and keeping defenders from penetrating, which means less deflected passes and less INTs
keep it up Jake.
Just remember Jake...Taco was always in your corner, thick or thin...
Good one!
listopencil
11-02-2005, 07:55 PM
Just remember Jake...Taco was always in your corner, thick or thin...
You know what's funny? I just remembered that we were having a discussion on this board a long time ago about who we would get to replace Griese. I brought up a list of QB's with Plummer at the top. I remember you saying something like, "At least he is an UFA." Hmmm...I'm going to go search for it to see what kind of reactions Plummer got at that time.
ludo21
11-02-2005, 08:06 PM
You know what's funny? I just remembered that we were having a discussion on this board a long time ago about who we would get to replace Griese. I brought up a list of QB's with Plummer at the top. I remember you saying something like, "At least he is an UFA." Hmmm...I'm going to go search for it to see what kind of reactions Plummer got at that time.
i bet their not good. :dunk:
just like the draft, ;D
I loved the signing then, and im still lovin now that he is flourishing.
i bet their not good. :dunk:
just like the draft, ;D
I loved the signing then, and im still lovin now that he is flourishing.
Me too and it would be great to see some of the reactions.
wabbit
11-02-2005, 09:02 PM
It seems odd someone would take so long to finally develop a rhythm in a Mike Shanahan offense, but that's what seems to have happened with Plummer...an awakening of sorts. Better late than never I guess.
Shanahan/Kubiak scheme to create mis-matches, so the thing he always stresses with his QBs is that someone will be open...always.
Plummer's check downs were slow his first couple of years, he ran out of time, got sacked or threw the ball where he shouldn't. Then again, lest we forget, Rod Smith is always open..well, almost always, so Plummer started & ended with Smith, no matter where he was in the play rotation.
If Smith was covered...well, forget the checkdown...lets go for broke.
Hello ints & stupid decisions.
This last off-season, Shanahan & Kubiak seem to have finally convinced Plummer the system really does work, and showed him through endless hours of 'film from '03/'04 that he could make things happen by simply checking down his play options.
They did the same in '04, but (I think) without the implied threat (this year) that he may be plying his trade elsewhere if the problems aren't corrected...not to mention that multi-million dollar bonus due this last off-season.
He got the message, and it's started working for him.
Doesn't hurt to have a thunder & lightning backfield, two pass catching tight ends & a deep threat, but hey, good for Jake
epicSocialism4tw
11-02-2005, 11:07 PM
It seems odd someone would take so long to finally develop a rhythm in a Mike Shanahan offense, but that's what seems to have happened with Plummer...an awakening of sorts. Better late than never I guess.
Shanahan/Kubiak scheme to create mis-matches, so the thing he always stresses with his QBs is that someone will be open...always.
Plummer's check downs were slow his first couple of years, he ran out of time, got sacked or threw the ball where he shouldn't. Then again, lest we forget, Rod Smith is always open..well, almost always, so Plummer started & ended with Smith, no matter where he was in the play rotation.
If Smith was covered...well, forget the checkdown...lets go for broke.
Hello ints & stupid decisions.
This last off-season, Shanahan & Kubiak seem to have finally convinced Plummer the system really does work, and showed him through endless hours of 'film from '03/'04 that he could make things happen by simply checking down his play options.
They did the same in '04, but (I think) without the implied threat (this year) that he may be plying his trade elsewhere if the problems aren't corrected...not to mention that multi-million dollar bonus due this last off-season.
He got the message, and it's started working for him.
Doesn't hurt to have a thunder & lightning backfield, two pass catching tight ends & a deep threat, but hey, good for Jake
I dont know about that. I'd like to see a tally of drops from Alexander, Putzier, and Lelie. Those guys have been inconsistent for the major part of the first half of the season. I counted 4 drops in one game for Lelie and 3 in another for Putz. Lelie doesnt read routes well either. He breaks the wrong way sometimes.
I wouldnt exactly call those guys weapons waiting to be used by the proper hands.
epicSocialism4tw
11-02-2005, 11:10 PM
You know what's funny? I just remembered that we were having a discussion on this board a long time ago about who we would get to replace Griese. I brought up a list of QB's with Plummer at the top. I remember you saying something like, "At least he is an UFA." Hmmm...I'm going to go search for it to see what kind of reactions Plummer got at that time.
It might be gone from the memory dump in the move, but that would be a great find. Some other good ones would be the reaction threads to drafting DWill and Foxworth, DJ Williams, Ian Gold's resigning, and the Browncos acquisition.
Dudeskey
11-02-2005, 11:15 PM
I s'pose I could take it a little easier on the guy. He had already been playing well prior to last week's game, the only difference is the quantity went up w/o affecting the quality. Keep it up, Jake
L.A. BRONCOS FAN
11-03-2005, 12:04 AM
Yeah buddy!
Take THAT, Jake hatas! !Booya!
All he does is throw TDs...nice to see Elam only called on for PATs. :thumbsup:
SoCalBronco
11-03-2005, 12:09 AM
Yeah buddy!
Take THAT, Jake hatas! !Booya!
All he does is throw TDs...nice to see Elam only called on for PATs. :thumbsup:
:thumbsup: :Broncos:
Popps
11-03-2005, 12:37 AM
It took Shanahan a few years to fix it up for him, but as of right now Plummer has evened out his career TD-INT ratio at 144-144.
He's nearing a 2-1 TD/INT ratio as a Bronco. (54-30) Add in 5 rushing TDs, and he's 59-30, one TD away from accounting for two TDs for every 1 INT he throws.
Not bad for an "inaccurate" QB.
Of course, he did throw that left handed pass a couple of years ago.
Rascal
11-03-2005, 06:29 AM
Of course, he did throw that left handed pass a couple of years ago.
But it was a completed pass though...errrr
Mile High Shack
11-03-2005, 08:06 AM
I'd like to take credit for this
I haven't yet worn my Jake jersey during game day once this year
only my anderson pot smoker t-shirt
yes, I take all the credit
Rascal
11-03-2005, 08:25 AM
I've made the wife wear a bronco shirt every sunday since we beat the jags.
I'm sorry to say she didn't wear it for the Giants game.
I flogged her.
Mile High Shack
11-03-2005, 08:34 AM
I've made the wife wear a bronco shirt every sunday since we beat the jags.
I'm sorry to say she didn't wear it for the Giants game.
I flogged her.
must.....resist..........comment
restraint.......failing...........must not.....post........comment.......ROFL!
Rascal
11-03-2005, 08:47 AM
must.....resist..........comment
restraint.......failing...........must not.....post........comment.......ROFL!
bastard
errand
11-03-2005, 09:27 AM
Doesn't hurt to have a thunder & lightning backfield, two pass catching tight ends & a deep threat, but hey, good for Jake
wow, nice little backhanded comment to get a dig in on Jake..........
Man it must kill alot of you guys to give the oft-maligned Jake Plummer a freaking pat on the back for playing well....I suspect because it kills whatever agenda you might have had as far as drafting this QB or signing that QB, or perhaps the demise of the clown that preceeded Jake here still grates you.
25-10 as the Broncos starting QB....54-30 TD's vs INTs.....franchise record for yards passing in a single season.....sure if one of these things happened, you could write it off as some stiff getting lucky, but all three tells me that the guy isn't a scrub afterall.
Popps
11-03-2005, 10:30 AM
It seems odd someone would take so long to finally develop a rhythm in a Mike Shanahan offense, but that's what seems to have happened with Plummer...an awakening of sorts. Better late than never I guess.
With all due respect, I have to disagree a bit. Jake had a 92 QB rating and a 2/1 TD/INT ratio his first year in our system. I'd guess that's even better than Elway did his first year in Shanny's system.
He put up huge numbers last year and moved the offense well. He took too many chances, so he threw about 5-7 too many INTs.
He's corrected that this year.
I do think he's improved and settled in, but it's hardly like he was totally inefficient up until now.
RaiderH8r
11-03-2005, 10:44 AM
I seem to remember an interview Jake did on ESPN where he talked about getting happy feet in the pocket his first two years. He said that his feet were telling him it was time to run when he actually had another second or two to make the read and throw. As a consequence plays weren't developing fully before he busted the pocket or tried to force a throw. This year he's settled into a calmer rhythm and has gotten a better sense of the better protection he's getting in Denver v. what he got in AZ.
I like that he's looking better in straight drop passing situations. He seems calmer in the pocket and he's making better decisions. Sauerbraten has also contributed in the sense that we can punt from our own 20 and not have to worry about giving the ball back to the opposition at their own 35 or 40. All in all it seems that the offense has come together as a unit, so far. The D still needs to find their way out of the locker room at half time. Once that happens who knows what this team could accomplish.
chrisp
11-03-2005, 02:15 PM
I wouldn't disagree with most of what I've seen in this thread, but on top of all of that I do think that Jake was freakishly unlucky at times last year. Lets face it, its not like he threw MORE ints than TDs last year, and the number of tipped balls that ended up in the defenses hands were phenomenal.
Not that he didn't make the odd bonehead play, just not as many as people think....
errand
11-03-2005, 03:22 PM
I'd guess that's even better than Elway did his first year in Shanny's system.
Careful Popps, there's a few on here that take exception to any mention of Elway in a negative way.....pointing out that Jake actually put up a better TD-INT ratio than John did in their initial seasons under Shanahan is almost like calling someone's mom a whore .
Shanahan's system didn't really click for Elway until his third season.
I said this before and been roasted for it.
Elway has said so himself I just can't remember where i read / heard it.
I'm not saying he was bad the first two seasons but the system became clear to him in season three just like it is for Jake.
We will start to here things like "It's all slowed down for me" or "I can anticipate the flow of the offense better" or "my progressions are much easier"
I predicted before the season started Jake would have a break out year and this has started. The good news is if he stays heality he will get better, alot better. MVP is not out of the question IMO
wabbit
11-03-2005, 05:35 PM
wow, nice little backhanded comment to get a dig in on Jake.......... ...
No dig intended
Just commenting about how the pieces are coming together in combination with his improved play.
Plummer is a better option than the QBs lining up for half the league.
I'm only pleased he's letting Shanahan's offense work for him now. He seemed to buck the system the last two years.
FADERPROOF
11-03-2005, 05:55 PM
You know what's funny? I just remembered that we were having a discussion on this board a long time ago about who we would get to replace Griese. I brought up a list of QB's with Plummer at the top. I remember you saying something like, "At least he is an UFA." Hmmm...I'm going to go search for it to see what kind of reactions Plummer got at that time.
The Jake Plummer signing was widely cheered throughout Bronco nation, so much so that during the last game of the season back in 2002 the Broncos were playing host to the Arizona Cardinals as a "WE WANT JAKE!" chant started being chanted by Bronco fans.
Jake even cites that as a big reason for signing here instead of taking more money with Chicao, he heard our fans cherring him.
epicSocialism4tw
11-03-2005, 05:58 PM
The Jake Plummer signing was widely cheered throughout Bronco nation, so much so that during the last game of the season back in 2002 the Broncos were playing host to the Arizona Cardinals as a "WE WANT JAKE!" chant started being chanted by Bronco fans.
Jake even cites that as a big reason for signing here instead of taking more money with Chicao, he heard our fans cherring him.
It's too bad that they are fickle and unappreciative whiners.