Bell And Anderson Have More Rushing Yards than Portis!

[Mastermind2002]

This may have already been covered but both Bell and Anderson have more rushing yards than Portis. As each day passes I'm loving that Portis trade that much more. I really want Bell and Anderson to go over 1000 yards.

[GreatBronco16]

I just think it would be the final nail if both go over 1000. I wonder if Portis would be thinking that he could have hit 2000 this year had he stayed in Denver. Hmmm. Naw, he got his money and his stupid costums.

[easymobee]

Skins fans have started to wonder about Portis themselves. Until very recently CP pretty much walked on water over at ESkins.

will clinton portis step it up
http://www.extremeskins.com/forums/showthread.php?t=124614

Why getting Portis was a mistake
http://www.extremeskins.com/forums/showthread.php?t=124159

Get rid of Portis?
http://www.extremeskins.com/forums/showthread.php?t=124537

Clinton Portis vs. Ladell Betts
http://www.extremeskins.com/forums/showthread.php?t=124513

Portis Is Over-rated!
http://www.extremeskins.com/forums/showthread.php?t=124118

[Kaylore]

I've said the same thing and reading those posts just pissed me off even more. Portis was never a power back. He had good hands, blocked well and would break one for a big gain. He was so amazingly fast no one could catch him from behind. Great to catch out of the back field or a block-turned-passing pattern. Speed.

So what do the skins do? They have him put on a bunch of weight and ask him to be John Riggins. Way to go, morons. Way to kill his best attributes.::) It's funny how there are posters over there saying "he needs to put on more weight." Hey, let's move Darrent Williams to safety.

[watermock]

Gibbs tries to fit a square peg in a round hole with Portis...Gibbs calls plays like Portis is John Riggins...anyone with any sense knows it...He should of traded for Ricky Williams or Benson out of Texas...

Portis doesn't seem too concerned...Ha! Keep those losses coming Washington...we own your pick...do us proud and lose the next 3 of 4...36-0 to the Giants? That's a ball busting beatdown...

In Portis defense, they totally abandoned the run...I think he rushed like 9 times, or maybe 4....

[broncohaven]

If Portis had realized how nice he had it in Denver he would have authored a lot of rushing records. He would have been paid before it was done, too. As it stands now, Bell will author those records instead.

Portis cost himself the chance to go down as one of the best backs in the history of the league. But at least he can play dress up in DC.

[NaptownChief]

But it is not the system....I repeat it is not the system. ;D

[crazyhorse]

But it is not the system....I repeat it is not the system. ;D

I think everyone pretty much realizes it's the system. THe only back to leave Denver and not fall on his face somewhere else was T.Davis. That's becuase he left and never played anywhere else. TD might be the most overrated player of all time. Hard to tell though, since he never played for anyone else.

[Drek]

Portis had a good season for the role he was put in with the 'Skins last year, his first in a new offense.

Its not just the system, its the system plus the eye for talent that Turner has for RBs. Turner's prefered qualities in an RB are different from what a lot of other teams want in an RB though, and thats where our system comes in. We don't require terrific all-field vision like many teams do for their RBs, we just ask them to make a choice, to cut back or not to cut back? Decide by the time you hit the line, make your move, and hope the OL springs you into the second level, then just find a lane to run downhill in. Its predicated on athletic ability more than football ability, and thats why we can grab guys like an Olandis Gary or Mike Anderson who were middle of the road college 'backs and turn them into 1,000 YRD NFL rushers.

As for Terrell Davis = Most overrated, well, he did go almost an entire season (into the playoffs) without getting tackled for a loss. That says something about a player, regardless of the system he played in, much like being a 2,000 yard rusher is a statement about the quality of a player he was.

[crazyhorse]

Portis had a good season for the role he was put in with the 'Skins last year, his first in a new offense.

Its not just the system, its the system plus the eye for talent that Turner has for RBs. Turner's prefered qualities in an RB are different from what a lot of other teams want in an RB though, and thats where our system comes in. We don't require terrific all-field vision like many teams do for their RBs, we just ask them to make a choice, to cut back or not to cut back? Decide by the time you hit the line, make your move, and hope the OL springs you into the second level, then just find a lane to run downhill in. Its predicated on athletic ability more than football ability, and thats why we can grab guys like an Olandis Gary or Mike Anderson who were middle of the road college 'backs and turn them into 1,000 YRD NFL rushers.

As for Terrell Davis = Most overrated, well, he did go almost an entire season (into the playoffs) without getting tackled for a loss. That says something about a player, regardless of the system he played in, much like being a 2,000 yard rusher is a statement about the quality of a player he was.

You do realize you said it's not the system, and then went on to explain how it was the system, don't you?

I agree Davis was a good player. I wasn't saying that. I just wonder if he recieves too much credit for his success in Denver. Back in those days you had a good TE too. That helps the run.

[watermock]

I think everyone pretty much realizes it's the system. THe only back to leave Denver and not fall on his face somewhere else was T.Davis. That's becuase he left and never played anywhere else. TD might be the most overrated player of all time. Hard to tell though, since he never played for anyone else.

What a typical pile of steaming Chef stew...you don't think Priest was a product of a good OL? Now that they are trying to block from their walkers, the KC line isn't so dominant now is it...in fact, they were manhandled last week...

You get the troll of the week award...watch your nuts because Oakland is underrated and making a run...

[broncohaven]

You do realize you said it's not the system, and then went on to explain how it was the system, don't you?

I agree Davis was a good player. I wasn't saying that. I just wonder if he recieves too much credit for his success in Denver. Back in those days you had a good TE too. That helps the run.
The system didn't form until Davis came along. He was the back that set the mold in Denver, and we've sought backs with similar qualities since.

[baja]

But it is not the system....I repeat it is not the system. ;D

This "system" thing has been bantered about for years now. I have just one comment, "Who gives a shiit".

Player or "System" the Denver Broncos are near the top in running O every year what difference does it make how we do it just so we continue to do it.

[Mile High Shack]

But it is not the system....I repeat it is not the system. ;D
if it was the system and not the player in TD's case

then every player would get 2K every year for us

dumbass

[[Warning] Nimrod in town]

Thats because Portis sucks.

[crazyhorse]

What a typical pile of steaming Chef stew...you don't think Priest was a product of a good OL? Now that they are trying to block from their walkers, the KC line isn't so dominant now is it...in fact, they were manhandled last week...

You get the troll of the week award...watch your nuts because Oakland is underrated and making a run...

No doubt about it. The Chiefs O line is mainly responsible for Holmes success. However, one difference being that any other back you put back there doesn't do the same thing. PH is the best red zone back in history. But that is the extent of his "unique abilities". The rest is just hard work and a good O line. Other backs can run well in the KC backfield, but none of them run it in the zone like the Preist. TD included.

I never take the Raiders for granted. Just like I dont take Denver for granted. It almost always comes back to bite you in the ass.

[Hogan11]

Portis? Never liked him...wouldn't be surprised if he's out of the league in three years max and I surely wouldn't shed a tear over it.

The Redskins? I only hate two teams more than them.

Gibbs? Never liked the guy and have been accused by the Deadskin faithful and animaters of not knowing anything about football because I refuse to kiss his azz.

Few things please me more than seeing that team and organization remain medicore. The Giants game last week was some high comedy indeed...I enjoyed every second of it.

[NaptownChief]

if it was the system and not the player in TD's case

then every player would get 2K every year for us

dumbass


Who implied that every back put in the system was exactly identical and one no better than the other?

dumbass

[Mile High Shack]

Who implied that every back put in the system was exactly identical and one no better than the other?

dumbass

then don't make blanket statements then

sure our system is good

but TD was more talented than any other back we've had..including Portis

[NaptownChief]

the eye for talent that Turner has for RBs.


Like taking Clarrett....and for that matter taking Clarrett over Marion Barber?

[crazyhorse]

if it was the system and not the player in TD's case

then every player would get 2K every year for us

dumbass

It's not like Davis hit 2000 every year.

Davis in his 1st year only rushed for 1117 yards. Many 1st year backs have done better in Denvers system.

Second year 1500+
Third 1750 or so.
Then the 2008 yard season at 5.1 yards a carry, and close to 400 carries.

Portis did better for Denver, and look how well he's doing.

[NaptownChief]

then don't make blanket statements then

sure our system is good

but TD was more talented than any other back we've had..including Portis



That was never even part of this conversation....or at least mine. You just foolishly pulled that out of your backside.

[toad]

Well, I certainly liked Portis when he was in Denver. When he was in our system, IMO, he was one of the best backs in the NFL. Had he stayed around I think we'd have really seen what he was capable of.

Somewhat in his defense, however, he is having a decent year this year. He's averaging 4.4/carry which is pretty decent (ironically enough LT, who many consider the NFL's "best back" is also averaging 4.4/carry). He's also on-track for about 1200 yards and 6 TDs. Not a bad year by any means.

Even last year, which many considered a "flop," he had 1300+ yards and 5 TDs (although his average of 3.8/carry was pretty low).

In the Denver system he's a star...in other systems he's simply "pretty good."

Gibbs made changes this year to fit him a little better...he's not pounding him Riggins-style like he did last year (or not as much, at least).

Personally, I'm still not sold on Champ Bailey. He was really mediocre last year (got burned on big plays many, many times) and has been gimpy this year. In the AFC, playing higher-powered offenses, I don't think he's the "shutdown corner" he was advertised to be.

[watermock]

It's not like Davis hit 2000 every year.

Davis in his 1st year only rushed for 1117 yards. Many 1st year backs have done better in Denvers system.


Another steaming pile of Chef stew...TD "only" got 1117 his first year, and "only" 1500 plus his second...and "only" 1750 his third...

Whatever, dream on that your team will even make the playoffs...

[Mile High Shack]

It's not like Davis hit 2000 every year.

Davis in his 1st year only rushed for 1117 yards. Many 1st year backs have done better in Denvers system.

Second year 1500+
Third 1750 or so.
Then the 2008 yard season at 5.1 yards a carry, and close to 400 carries.

Portis did better for Denver, and look how well he's doing.

Davis didn't start right away

and the team Davis started with wasn't as talented yet....Denver went only 8-8 TD's rookie season

[sirhcyennek81]

Davis grew with the offense, like every other player. Honestly, can you say that Smith, McCaffrey, Davis and Griffith all came in at what they were at their peak? Hell no. its development. A good back will get 1,100-1500 yards in our system. a great back will get 1501-2008 yards in our system, consistently. 97 and 98, no other running back in nfl history had more rushes, yards, and td's the Davis.

[crazyhorse]

Davis grew with the offense, like every other player. Honestly, can you say that Smith, McCaffrey, Davis and Griffith all came in at what they were at their peak? Hell no. its development. A good back will get 1,100-1500 yards in our system. a great back will get 1501-2008 yards in our system, consistently. 97 and 98, no other running back in nfl history had more rushes, yards, and td's the Davis.

Portis was better early in his carreer with Denver. He was developing in the Denver system. Now look at him. Mediocre at best. All I'm saying is that it's possible Davis was overrated.

[bendog]

The argument is oddly convoluted. If you say TD was a "system" back, then you fail to consider that he'd actually have fit better into Gibbs' system that does Sonic.

I agree with the statement made along time ago on another thread, and I'm sorry I don't remember who made it, that TD was a guy weighing 215-220 whole played like he weighed 230-240, and he just wore down. He might have gotten another 3K in his career, but ....

[crazyhorse]

The argument is oddly convoluted. If you say TD was a "system" back, then you fail to consider that he'd actually have fit better into Gibbs' system that does Sonic.

I agree with the statement made along time ago on another thread, and I'm sorry I don't remember who made it, that TD was a guy weighing 215-220 whole played like he weighed 230-240, and he just wore down. He might have gotten another 3K in his career, but ....

Very possible. I dont consider Portis to realy "fit" in Gibbs system. I do feel like TD had more power than does Portis.

[bendog]

I guess I don't follwo what you mean by "overrated." Guy rushed for 2k and was a MVP and superbowl MVP. He burned out early, so imo doesn't have HOF numbers. But for 3 years he was the best running back in the NFL, and emmitt and that wierd guy in Det were still playing.

TD could have run with Emmitt's team, or Gibbs, or really any "scheme." He did lack the ability to generate yards on his own, like a Gale Sayers or OJ or ... Sonic. But, so did Emmit. Not comparing Sonic to Sayers or OJ, except in style. But, the fact that Sonic is even surviving in Gibbs' system makes me think i underestimated him, though.

[Victor]

I thought, and still think, that Clinton is a very capable back. Loved him here in Denver on the field.

I always wondered if his off the field schtick would get in the way of his talent, and now that he's been shown the money I'm afraid that his desire may be just a bit off.

Is it too late to trade Lenny Walls for Clinton?

[NaptownChief]

I guess I don't follwo what you mean by "overrated." Guy rushed for 2k and was a MVP and superbowl MVP.


I think the 2k was a lot of what made him a bit overrated...TD was clearly a good all around back and the most complete that Denver has put in their system....But because of the system he punched out the 2k yards which is phenomenal numbers and it is impossible to post those type of numbers and not have many people thinking your are a god like RB. The reality that most people believe is that TD in most other systems other than Denver would have been a good RB but probably nothing more than a 800-1200 per season type of guy...Doesn't mean he wasn't good and doesn't mean he wasn't talented but good chance he was a lot more Adrian Murrell than Eric Dickerson.

[Paladin]

What is a "system back?" I think that is a cop out by the chef fans who do not fully realize that in Denver, Portis' "system" was that he got to rush against the chefs twice a year.

The "system" is simply that Bobby Turner developed RB talent and the Broncos used that talent to its best advantage: get to the hole and run down hill. Seems fair enough. And the Olinemen are quick, athletic and get into the second level fairly quickly. The WRs block. Every other team in the league uses the cut block scheme, but the RBs are selected to play that style of running.

The "system back" mantra overused and has little actual meaning.

[NaptownChief]

What is a "system back?" I think that is a cop out by the chef fans who do not fully realize that in Denver, Portis' "system" was that he got to rush against the chefs twice a year.

The "system" is simply that Bobby Turner developed RB talent and the Broncos used that talent to its best advantage: get to the hole and run down hill. Seems fair enough. And the Olinemen are quick, athletic and get into the second level fairly quickly. The WRs block. Every other team in the league uses the cut block scheme, but the RBs are selected to play that style of running.

The "system back" mantra overused and has little actual meaning.



Right and David Klingler and Andre Ware were a hell of a lot better QB's at Houston than Peyton Manning was at Tennessee and Carson Palmer at USC. :unamused:

[NaptownChief]

Palidin,

After we discuss some ocean front property, I would like to take you down to Lubbock and introduce you to Mike Leach. He has this incredible eye for talent and amazingly has groomed the greatest college QB every year for several years now...Legends like Sonny Cumbe, Cody Hodges, Kliff Kingsbury, BJ Symons.....It is really something special to behold how a guy could spot all this amazing talent that virtually nobody else wanted and come to find out they weren't just good QB's but legends.

[epicSocialism4tw]

I think the 2k was a lot of what made him a bit overrated...TD was clearly a good all around back and the most complete that Denver has put in their system....But because of the system he punched out the 2k yards which is phenomenal numbers and it is impossible to post those type of numbers and not have many people thinking your are a god like RB. The reality that most people believe is that TD in most other systems other than Denver would have been a good RB but probably nothing more than a 800-1200 per season type of guy...Doesn't mean he wasn't good and doesn't mean he wasn't talented but good chance he was a lot more Adrian Murrell than Eric Dickerson.

Sheesh. What a load of garbage! Cheif fans use whatever excuses they can to minimize the dominance and legitimacy of Denver's dominant players. We get it. No need to post that junk on this board.

TD was the NFL MVP. TD was a great back. No amount of revisionist Chiefisms will ever change that. You dont gain 2000+ yards on your way to the two highest honors in the NFL as a system back. Eric Dickerson was nowhere near as good as TD.

[GreatBronco16]

Portis was better early in his carreer with Denver. He was developing in the Denver system. Now look at him. Mediocre at best. All I'm saying is that it's possible Davis was overrated.

The reason Davis still gets his is due to the fact that an injury forced him out of Denver and the NFL. Every year he improved, so for most people it is safe to say that he would have continued to improve or just hold steady for about 4-5 more years. Davis didn't have two good season, then demand to be paid the most for his position. He was just the John Elway at the RB spot in Denver. He loved Denver, Denver loved him and he wasn't planning on leaving at any time.

[NaptownChief]

Eric Dickerson was nowhere near as good as TD.


llama's intelligence =


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[Hercules Rockefeller]

Then the 2008 yard season at 5.1 yards a carry, and close to 400 carries.


and he probably only played 12-13 games that year ,with all the 4th quarters, and sometimes the entire 2nd half that he sat out.

[Mastermind2002]

Eric Dickerson was nowhere near as good as TD.

That comment made me cringe.

[crazyhorse]

and he probably only played 12-13 games that year ,with all the 4th quarters, and sometimes the entire 2nd half that he sat out.

5.1 yards a carry is no world record, bud.

[bendog]

llama's intelligence =


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Dickerson had some subpar years, so I think your analogy is misplaced. TD was about the same skill level at Emmitt, but he didn't last as long. The murrell crack was just stupid, crazy.

But back to the basic pt of the comparison of Sonic and TD. Sonic has gotten tougher in Wash. Put him back in Den, and imo, 2k would be a possibility. But, 2K years are pretty phenomonal. Things have to gel, not just the team but the schedule, how other teams are playing, the defense .... Emmitt didn't do it. Sweetness didn't do it. But both those guys were the engine that drove teams that had good runs. So was TD. Could Sonic? Maybe? But when you say system back, it's just bs, because TD's skill set would have let him run in any of those offensive systems. Sonic is a bit different. He's surviving Gibbs, which surprises me a little. But, put him in a true "system" utilizing his skills, and he was the most dangerous player on the field. Not even Priest was with him as a "chance to score on any play from any field position."

If you want to compare TD to a guy of the past, imo, Riggens wouldn't be a bad choice.

[GreatBronco16]

5.1 yards a carry is no world record, bud.

It isn't exactly chicken feed either. How many other 2000 yard rushers had over 5 ypc? How many other rushers got 2000 yards on less than 400 rushes?

[listopencil]

I think everyone pretty much realizes it's the system. THe only back to leave Denver and not fall on his face somewhere else was T.Davis. That's becuase he left and never played anywhere else. TD might be the most overrated player of all time. Hard to tell though, since he never played for anyone else.


TD had the same thing that Emmit Smith had. Do you consider Emmit Smith to be as equally overrated?

[bendog]

TD had the same thing that Emmit Smith had. Do you consider Emmit Smith to be as equally overrated?
he's a tool, who hijacked a thread. you'd think I'd put him on ignore. Bob is pretty funny sometimes, but crazy is ..... he likes to piss on peoples shoes.

[baja]

he's a tool, who hijacked a thread. you'd think I'd put him on ignore. Bob is pretty funny sometimes, but crazy is ..... he likes to piss on peoples shoes.

Luckly he often forgets to first unzip his fly

[Hercules Rockefeller]

5.1 yards a carry is no world record, bud.

Apparently my post was too difficult for you to comprehend. TD rushed for 2008 yards that season while sitting out quite a few 4th quarters and on at least one occasion the entire 2nd half. My post had nothing to do with YPC, but with the amount of playing time it actually took him to reach 2k.

[Dagmar]

Thunder and Lightening have both come on to a game...

http://www.longmontfyi.com/Assets/newspics/072605s1a.jpg

http://i.a.cnn.net/si/2005/fantasy/09/01/inside.fantasy/p1_anderson.jpg

Atlanta?

DVD?

No thanks, give me thunder and lightening every time baby!

[ozomulsion]

I think everyone pretty much realizes it's the system. THe only back to leave Denver and not fall on his face somewhere else was T.Davis. That's becuase he left and never played anywhere else. TD might be the most overrated player of all time. Hard to tell though, since he never played for anyone else.

B. freaking. S.- Droughns may have just had a DWI, hell I have 2. Ruben has had a very fine year. Especially considering what team he's on.

[crazyhorse]

Apparently my post was too difficult for you to comprehend. TD rushed for 2008 yards that season while sitting out quite a few 4th quarters and on at least one occasion the entire 2nd half. My post had nothing to do with YPC, but with the amount of playing time it actually took him to reach 2k.

Personally, I thought the stat was very telling on how well TD did getting to 2008. 5.1 yards a carry is very respectable. I never said TD wasn't any good.

In fact, I never said he was overrated. I said it would be entirely possible that he is, given the system he has been in. There is a track record of what backs do after leaving Denver that would support that logic.

For all I know, he was the best back to ever sh1t behind a pair of shoes. What's the difference? He's long gone anyway.

[crazyhorse]

TD had the same thing that Emmit Smith had. Do you consider Emmit Smith to be as equally overrated?

Emmits carreer spanned over a decade. I agree he had a great line though. That's usually the case with any good RB. Hard to be a good back with a lousy Oline. The only back I have seen in my lifetime that could run reguardless of the Oline was B.Sanders.

[crazyhorse]

he's a tool, who hijacked a thread. you'd think I'd put him on ignore. Bob is pretty funny sometimes, but crazy is ..... he likes to piss on peoples shoes.

You're just sore because I am not as easy to beat on as Bob.

BTW, what kind of tool? A hammer, huh?

[Kaylore]

Chief trolls can try and rain on the System Vs. Back parade. Saying TD was overrated is hilarious and surprising from a chief fan. TD made people miss, broke tackles and many times wasn't caught from behind. They sw him play enough to remember that, so I assume this is just an attempt to rile up the fans base here.

The line can create holes but the line doesn't instill the back with magical shiftiness in the open field or powerful tackl-breaking running ability. Watch the Super Bowl XXXII game and you'll quickly be confinced when solid, low hit agianst TD is brushed off like it's nothing.

Yeah, our line creates some nice holes and we'll block down field. We give them opportunities, but that's all they are: opportunities. It takes a good back to make the most of those opportunities.

If we could run just anyone back there, then we would just put a possesion receiver in there because then he's fast enough to break a big one, has good hands, and since its all the system he doesn't need to break tackles or anything because the magical "system" will move the defenders for him.

[azbroncfan]

Just say it crazyhorse Priest is better than TD.

[RedskinBronco]

Portis just doesn't fit the Joe Gibbs system. For 2 seasons now, I've wanted the skins to trade Portis to the Rams for Stephen Jackson. A lot of you might say that's crazy, but the Rams are crazy. They love the running backs who are good in open spaces. Portis just isn't very good with tough yards. Stephen Jackson is the perfect Joe Gibbs back. Tatum Bell would have trouble in DC. Mike Anderson would do well.

[Merlin]

There is a track record of what backs do after leaving Denver that would support that logic.
rtis put up 1300 yds in a team with absolutely no O last yr. Every team that played Washington knew all they had to do was stop Portis. MB was so poor, a 125 yd game was considered greatness. Yet Portis, running in a team that made little attempt to suit his skill set (notice it is fitting a player to their skills, this system BS totally misses the point) still put up 1300 yds (btw, even though the Skins OL still stinks, Portis is putting up decent yds). Then you have RD, who also is playing in a lousy team, with an inferior line and a second (third?) rate QB, and he was also doing decently. Either of those guys would have put up incredible numbers in KC, yet you don't see many people here stating your 2 backs are just avg, because at least we have the intellect to now better. Of course the latter is why we also generally have much better teams than you jokers Ha!

[Merlin]

Other than Olandis Gary, what RB from the Shannahan era has performed poorly with other teams after succeeding in Denver? Also, was OG not partially damaged goods?

[listopencil]

By the way, rather than comparing Anderson and Bell to Portis you should continue to make this comparison:

Bell 562 YARDS 5 TD'S
Champ 3 INT's 1 TD

Portis 553 YARDS 3 TD'S


We traded 553 rushing yards and three touchdowns for 562 rushing yards, six touchdowns and three interceptions.

[RedskinBronco]

rtis put up 1300 yds in a team with absolutely no O last yr. Every team that played Washington knew all they had to do was stop Portis. MB was so poor, a 125 yd game was considered greatness. Yet Portis, running in a team that made little attempt to suit his skill set (notice it is fitting a player to their skills, this system BS totally misses the point) still put up 1300 yds (btw, even though the Skins OL still stinks, Portis is putting up decent yds). Then you have RD, who also is playing in a lousy team, with an inferior line and a second (third?) rate QB, and he was also doing decently. Either of those guys would have put up incredible numbers in KC, yet you don't see many people here stating your 2 backs are just avg, because at least we have the intellect to now better. Of course the latter is why we also generally have much better teams than you jokers Ha!


Come on Merlin...The chiefs are the best NFL team every year. They should win the super bowl every year, but Paul T. allows every other team to cheat so that the best team in football, the chefs, never wins the super bowl. Paul T. is the devil! it has nothing to do with that GM guy....what is his name again? Carl...right? Man that Patrick Surtain is a true SHUTDOWN corner. Man that Kendrell Bell, wow! The Browncos?! they got nothing on this stud defensive group. Oh and Priest is the man....he is always the best RB in the league man...forget that he looks like he's 40 when he runs these days. who is LT man? who is M. Anderson and T.Bell. They got nothin on Priest and LJ....CHIEFS RULE!!! Dick Vermeil all the way :vermeil:

[ozomulsion]

Emmits carreer spanned over a decade. I agree he had a great line though. That's usually the case with any good RB. Hard to be a good back with a lousy Oline. The only back I have seen in my lifetime that could run reguardless of the Oline was B.Sanders.
I have a feeling Sanders will be the only back EVER to ba able to do that. No way someone like Barry will ever come around again. How special it is to have been able to watch him. We'll be telling our grandchildren about him. Best back EVER period. Anyone who says different just doesn't understand their football, too young or they're just ignorant.

Look at them all laying on the ground.
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As soon as they went from the run and shoot to the I formation. 2000 yards baby
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