Pivotal Game upcomming

[Willynowei]

Denver was dominating, Oakland was just plain bad.

But somehow, the interception of Brian Greise inside the Oakland endzone launched a pass happy Raider team into the superbowl and a Balanced Denver team into the scrap book. I can remember that play as clear as anyother ever, when Rod Woodson ran back the touchdown, with every step you could feel the momentum shifting, but not just of the game, but the seasons.

So here we are again, 6-2 going into Oakland. If we win, we'll be 7-2 and finally released of the midseason swoon theories.

If we loose, then what happens if that vaunted Raiders team takes on life? and Denver is again exposed? Could it all happen again, that dreadful nightmare ending with Denver at 9-7, not making the playoffs?

We are not much better on the Road as Oakland is at home. Denver needs to rest up, and be charged to pour it on the Raiders. This is their big statement game, champions don't just beat bad teams, they blow them out and embarrass them.

[Spider]

Division game ... throw the records out , hell throw last week out .......Same ole same , 2 teams hate each other , Shanny is still pissed at Al Davis .........

[DarkHorse30]

We are not much better on the Road as Oakland is at home.

Denver beat the Jags for their only home loss.....so I think Denver is ok on the road.

I'd take a blowout win over Oakland any day... but scraping a W is just fine by me.

[Willynowei]

Denver beat the Jags for their only home loss.....so I think Denver is ok on the road.

I'd take a blowout win over Oakland any day... but scraping a W is just fine by me.

I meant that purely in a record sense.

If you look at miami in the light that it was nothing but a fluke. Then we played about 7 quarters of unbelievable football on the road on both sides of the ball. that changed in the last quarter of our road stretch.

[epicSocialism4tw]

Division game ... throw the records out , hell throw last week out .......Same ole same , 2 teams hate each other , Shanny is still pissed at Al Davis .........


Yep. I wouldnt say that this game is "pivotal", but it has much more real weight to it than the Philly or NY games. This game counts three times. Division record, conference record, and overall record. The W's at Oakland and at NYJ are more important than winning against NYG or PHI.

[rbackfactory80]

Yep. I wouldnt say that this game is "pivotal", but it has much more real weight to it than the Philly or NY games. This game counts three times. Division record, conference record, and overall record. The W's at Oakland and at NYJ are more important than winning against NYG or PHI.

They are but I would like to win enough where that does not matter.

[ludo21]

This game is important. The Raiders are our true Foe.

They suck, no doubt about it. But throw away everything that has happened thus far out the window. This is going to be a tough game on the road.

Cant wait ;D

[REB]

BRONCO faiduh games are usually slug fests cuz we despise each other, but if we play like we did yesterday and knock collins on his a$$ and produce offensively like we are obviously capable of we could jack them up in thier dunghole.

Make'em look like this...

REB

1-2-3-:Broncos:!!!!!!! :charge:

[epicSocialism4tw]

They are but I would like to win enough where that does not matter.

It always matters.

[wabbit]

The pivotal games to date have been @ Jacksonville, New England & KC on Monday Night.

In my very humble opinion, the pivotal games to come will be at KC & at San Diego.

The rest are manageable

[Ballhawk]

The pivotal games to date have been @ Jacksonville, New England & KC on Monday Night.

In my very humble opinion, the pivotal games to come will be at KC & at San Diego.

The rest are manageable

Goals should be 5-1 in Division and taking care of the rest of our home games = 11-5. Buffalo on the road will be pivotal to securing homefield in as every AFC win is important. As of right now we are 4-1 in AFC which is a good for 2nd best in Conf ahead of Cinn.

[ScottXray]

You win the division title by winning IN the division games. This is a Division game, so it's doubly important in the standings.

I think we could lose this division game and still win all the rest of our division games(Oak @home and SD, KC on the road.) 5-1 in the division will be OK.

However, we need to go at least 7-1 (preferably 8-0) at home and 4-4 on the road to take the division. So far we are 1-2 on the road. The Miami game is history and we were in the game at NY till the very end. But its still a road loss.

That means winning at LEAST 3 of the 5 remaining road games. KC, SD and Dallas are going to be tough and we will have to win at least one of those and ALL of the others (Buffalo and Oakland) to post 11-5 (possible 12-4 if we go 8-0 at home).

This game is not a MUST win....but it IS a very important game concerning the playoffs and possible division title. I think the Raiders are going to be easier to beat away, than KC and SD. Raiders are starting to gel and aren't counting themselves out yet, so it will possibly be a trap game, especially if they win this coming weekend. Also , historically, we don't play well coming off of bye weeks.

It's time to break another bad habit we have picked up since 99. If we beat the Raiders there the rest of the schedule has less potential to cause us problems. Time for the team to just take care of business and start the 2nd half with a win.:captain:

[Ballhawk]

This is not a must win for the playoffs but it is for Home field and a bye.

[theodnixon]

Denver was dominating, Oakland was just plain bad.

But somehow, the interception of Brian Greise inside the Oakland endzone launched a pass happy Raider team into the superbowl and a Balanced Denver team into the scrap book. I can remember that play as clear as anyother ever, when Rod Woodson ran back the touchdown, with every step you could feel the momentum shifting, but not just of the game, but the seasons.

So here we are again, 6-2 going into Oakland. If we win, we'll be 7-2 and finally released of the midseason swoon theories.

If we loose, then what happens if that vaunted Raiders team takes on life? and Denver is again exposed? Could it all happen again, that dreadful nightmare ending with Denver at 9-7, not making the playoffs?

We are not much better on the Road as Oakland is at home. Denver needs to rest up, and be charged to pour it on the Raiders. This is their big statement game, champions don't just beat bad teams, they blow them out and embarrass them.


To me, I think this philly game was the pivotal point. Amazing rebound to a very tough loss in NY...........The most important point is this philly game had a slew of adverse challanges and up big (midseason playoff game). I am convinced after a bye week, our confidence will finally work with us, and we will plan our vacations after January.

[theodnixon]

By the way, I dont think that Oakland is a "bad team", but they are very dangerous, but def beatable

[SoCalBronco]

This is actually a very pivotal game.

We cant really afford any off weeks, we cant afford the 2nd half slide. Kansas City is a mere game and a half behind, or in reality, they are tied with us atop the division, since this week while we are on our bye they will very likely take care of Oakland at home in Arrowhead making up the half game, and they will also likely beat us in December in Kansas City as well.

We really cant afford any **** ups. While the Chiefs still have some tough games, the first half of their schedule as a whole is more difficult than the
second half I think. We need to keep winning. Oakland is a team that has played better than their record and they are starting to win a little bit now, albeit against subpar teams. Nonetheless they are starting to click and the game at Oakland, outside of last year has always been extremely difficult,
even when we have had a clear talent advantage. In 1997 for example, we
were also coming off a bye with 2 weeks to prepare against an Oakland team
that eventually finished 4-12 and we still LOST, this was with Elway and Davis and a 6-0 ballclub, mind you. So this is a dangerous game against a team with proven weapons. Unlike the Eagles, Oakland has more than 1 fearsome wide reciever and they are going to juggle formations to get
great matchups. Oakland is a stiff test and a dangerous game that we cant afford to lose. This is huge folks. Huge.

[Atlas]

This is actually a very pivotal game.

We cant really afford any off weeks, we cant afford the 2nd half slide. Kansas City is a mere game and a half behind, or in reality, they are tied with us atop the division, since this week while we are on our bye they will very likely take care of Oakland at home in Arrowhead making up the half game, and they will also likely beat us in December in Kansas City as well.

We really cant afford any **** ups. While the Chiefs still have some tough games, the first half of their schedule as a whole is more difficult than the
second half I think. We need to keep winning. Oakland is a team that has played better than their record and they are starting to win a little bit now, albeit against subpar teams. Nonetheless they are starting to click and the game at Oakland, outside of last year has always been extremely difficult,
even when we have had a clear talent advantage. In 1997 for example, we
were also coming off a bye with 2 weeks to prepare against an Oakland team
that eventually finished 4-12 and we still LOST, this was with Elway and Davis and a 6-0 ballclub, mind you. So this is a dangerous game against a team with proven weapons. Unlike the Eagles, Oakland has more than 1 fearsome wide reciever and they are going to juggle formations to get
great matchups. Oakland is a stiff test and a dangerous game that we cant afford to lose. This is huge folks. Huge.

This isn't a huge game. I mean Denver could lose to the Faiders and then come back and win in SD and KC and all is well. The pivital game is whoever is challenging us. If it's KC than KC if it's SD than Denver needs to win in SD.

I think Denver will win in KC and I don't see why they can't win in SD either but we'll see which team shows up.

[SoCalBronco]

This isn't a huge game. I mean Denver could lose to the Faiders and then come back and win in SD and KC and all is well. .

Lets be realistic. We are NOT going to win in SD AND KC. If we won either of those games it would be gravy.

[Sassy]

Lets be realistic. We are NOT going to win in SD AND KC. If we won either of those games it would be gravy.
BS!

[Bronco LB 59]

Lets be realistic. We are NOT going to win in SD AND KC. If we won either of those games it would be gravy.

Denver is going to have a tough time winning either one, but I think the pressure is on San Diego and Kansas City to avoid the sweep. Historically, the Broncos win more at those venues than SD/KC do at Mile High.

[Bronco9798]

Denver is going to have a tough time winning either one, but I think the pressure is on San Diego and Kansas City to avoid the sweep. Historically, the Broncos win more at those venues than SD/KC do at Mile High.


Not at Arrowhead in December. Check the date we play the Chiefs.

[Bronco9798]

Lets be realistic. We are NOT going to win in SD AND KC. If we won either of those games it would be gravy.

Not is a strong word. I wouldn't go that far.

[Bronco LB 59]

Not at Arrowhead in December. Check the date we play the Chiefs.

So January of 1998 doesn't count? :~ohyah!:

[Bronco9798]

So January of 1998 doesn't count? :~ohyah!:

I was at that game. You're cheating, its December we're talking about, lol...

[Dr. Broncenstein]

This will be Oakland's superbowl, that's for certain. I don't expect anything less than their best effort of the year.

[Atlas]

Lets be realistic. We are NOT going to win in SD AND KC. If we won either of those games it would be gravy.

The reason Denver loses at KC and SD is because they do a good job on Denver's running game and then force Plummer mistakes. No one is going to stop this running game and Jake has proven that he can take care of the ball. Denver could very well beat both of those teams.

[24champ]

Quote:
Originally Posted by SoCalBronco
Lets be realistic. We are NOT going to win in SD AND KC. If we won either of those games it would be gravy.

Lets be realistic, anything can happen in SD and KC. Those games are winnable. The tough games are going to be Dallas and Buffalo.

[SoCalBronco]

Lets be realistic, anything can happen in SD and KC. Those games are winnable. The tough games are going to be Dallas and Buffalo.

They are winnable, but Im just saying the idea that we are going to win BOTH of those games is really not realistic. Both in and of themselves are more likely than not losses as well.

[ClevelandBronco2]

This is one that could bite our guys in the ass. Lamont Jordan is coming on hard as a part of that team. Moss will stretch us out. Champ should be healthy or he should have the sense to sit.

I like our DBs for an interception and I like Ian for another. Collins can't deal with Moss's speed and he'll underestimate ours.

[ClevelandBronco2]

Lets be realistic, anything can happen in SD and KC. Those games are winnable. The tough games are going to be Dallas and Buffalo.

I agree wholeheartedly.

[Lidderer]

This is one that could bite our guys in the ass. Lamont Jordan is coming on hard as a part of that team.

This just isn't true at all. Jordan had 14(FOURTEEN!!) runs on sunday that didn't go for more than 2 yards. That's just awful, and it was against the titans.

Even in his 'breakout' game vs buffalo(the league's 2nd worst run d) he got stuffed for 2 and under on 10 different occassions. Dreadful.

Prior to that he's just been so dreadful I needn't even explain my belief that the signing was awful.

We have nothing to worry about with lamont jordan.

[ClevelandBronco2]

This just isn't true at all. Jordan had 14(FOURTEEN!!) runs on sunday that didn't go for more than 2 yards. That's just awful, and it was against the titans.

Even in his 'breakout' game vs buffalo(the league's 2nd worst run d) he got stuffed for 2 and under on 10 different occassions. Dreadful.

Prior to that he's just been so dreadful I needn't even explain my belief that the signing was awful.

We have nothing to worry about with lamont jordan.

You're looking at Jordan as a runner. Get over that. He's a dangerous receiver out of the backfield. I think he matches up for a fine game against the Broncos.

[ClevelandBronco2]

Prior to that he's just been so dreadful I needn't even explain my belief that the signing was awful.

You're full of orange up to your ears. The signing was good. It's taken some time for Norv to understand what he has and what to do with him.

He was too fascinated by his shiny new toy, Randy.

[Lidderer]

You're looking at Jordan as a runner. Get over that. He's a dangerous receiver out of the backfield. I think he matches up for a fine game against the Broncos.

I mean i appreciate the line of thought that won't remain fixed to evaluating a player just for what his position demands, but noting that jordan is not JUST a runner doesn't mean that he's NOT a runner. THat's still a big facet of his game, and he's really bad at it. Yes, he catches some passes out of the backfield, but that doesn't put too much fear into me, especially if they're 6 yard gains on 3rd and 9 situations that are the result of his poor running abilit.y

[Raider Bill]

This just isn't true at all. Jordan had 14(FOURTEEN!!) runs on sunday that didn't go for more than 2 yards. That's just awful, and it was against the titans.

6 or 7 of them were with 3 minutes left up by 9

Our FB has been injured up til last week. As it is he's rushing at a 3.7 per carry clip with 7 touchdowns. Norval hasnt fed him the ball enough IMO.

[Lidderer]

6 or 7 of them were with 3 minutes left up by 9

Our FB has been injured up til last week. As it is he's rushing at a 3.7 per carry clip with 7 touchdowns. Norval hasnt fed him the ball enough IMO.

in fact 5 occurred in those last 3:34, which okay, fine. That's still 9 times the guy was stopped for less than 2. Never is that good.

3.7 ypc is pedestrain. Actually it's worse than that if you look at the guys in the AFC clustered in the 12-18th area. Below-average does not instill fear in anyone's heart.

Norv hasn't fed him the ball enough cause Norv knows he's got a lame RB who dances way too much behind the line and tends to put his team in 3rd and long situations more often than even a highly-touted passing attack can afford to be in. While everyone said "look what he does when you give him carries!" 2 weeks ago, it should be mentioned that he averaged that 'stellar' 4.4 yards per carry against a bills team that the week prior let Curtis Martin Sr. average 8.2 a clip.

8.2 yards. Curtis Martin.

Lamont's played the 24th, 31st, 21st, 8th(note: it's KC), 7th, 12th and 3rd best run Ds. What a shocker that his only decent game was vs that 2nd-to-last run d.

I really can't express enough how overvalued the pass-catching back has become. Lamont Jordan and his ridiculous contract are testament to this weird new trend.

We have nothing to worry about.

[Raider Bill]

wrong thread

[ClevelandBronco2]

That's seven times in the final 3:34, or to round it off, seven times in the final four minutes.

Four times in the final three minutes.

[bendog]

It's good,and lucky, that Den has two weeks, and then the week after have the Jets coming to Den. Neither game should get Den in a let down effort. And then at Dallas but on Thanksgiving with national tv. And then an extra couple of days before Arrowhead.