NFL prime time. Still No Love [Archive] - The Orange Mane

Liebs

10-30-2005, 05:28 PM

Just watched NFL prime time. Following the bolts highlights, they did a five min tribute to how they are the best 4-4 team "ever" in a tough division. LT had like 67 yards I think, but since he threw another TD pass he was God.

Our team blows out the defeding NFC champs, gets two, hundred yard rushers, and they go straight to commercial following the highlights.

poppy cock. discuss

Clockwork Orange

10-30-2005, 05:30 PM

Fine by me.

Garcia Bronco

10-30-2005, 05:30 PM

Are you crazy...they showed every one of our TD's for the late game that finshed last...that's pretty good. But the did say that garbage about being the best 4-4 team....somebody said the same thing about "Randy Moss and Raiders" today before they played.

ro_50

10-30-2005, 05:31 PM

I dont really care about that stuff.

And it can be due to the fact that the game took awhile to complete.

So they would be one of the final highlights on the show.

Liebs

10-30-2005, 05:32 PM

im not mad or anything. I just think it's strange that the national media never really seems to give positive credit, but as soon as plummer makes mistake, or whatever, they are all over it

Sir Mawn

10-30-2005, 05:52 PM

Jake Delhomme, QB, Panthers (341 yds, 3 TD) is in the "Sunday Stud" voting.

Jake Plummer (22/35 309 yds, 4 TD, 1 carry 22 yds) isn't.

:D

ZachKC

10-30-2005, 05:53 PM

im not mad or anything. I just think it's strange that the national media never really seems to give positive credit, but as soon as plummer makes mistake, or whatever, they are all over it
They played all of your highlights. Would you like them to jack off while they talk about Denver? I am not sure what the Broncos "are not getting" in this case.

Either way. Threads like this make OM go round.

Dagmar

10-30-2005, 05:54 PM

Love being the underdogs!

Garcia Bronco

10-30-2005, 05:54 PM

im not mad or anything. I just think it's strange that the national media never really seems to give positive credit, but as soon as plummer makes mistake, or whatever, they are all over it

You should have heard them this morning....even when they showed Giants highlights they talked about how great we are....this just in...we're a good team.

Garcia Bronco

10-30-2005, 05:58 PM

In fact...I'm surprised they got us as much as they did considering they were moments away from Brushi Bowl 2005 :)

ludo21

10-30-2005, 06:00 PM

In fact...I'm surprised they got us as much as they did considering they were moments away from Brushi Bowl 2005 :)

lol, i agree. I was glad to see all the highlights again.

2 rookies turned the game around for us!! What plays on both guys part. :Broncos:

Jetmeck

10-30-2005, 06:06 PM

They played all of your highlights. Would you like them to J-O while they talk about Denver? I am not sure what the Broncos "are not getting" in this case.

Either way. Threads like this make OM go round.

Thx so much for your input.
30-10
According to NFL.COM the Chiefs hold the single game record for being fooled on the bootleg.
Best O-line is in Denver.

ZachKC

10-30-2005, 06:09 PM

Thx so much for your input.
30-10
According to NFL.COM the Chiefs hold the single game record for being fooled on the bootleg.
Best O-line is in Denver.
I am impressed you took time to stop cheering for past Broncos to make this post that had something to do with this season. Amazing. I will PM a few guys around here to back you up on this so you don't start whining.

Might as well make everyone happy.

Atlas

10-30-2005, 06:14 PM

Jake Delhomme, QB, Panthers (341 yds, 3 TD) is in the "Sunday Stud" voting.

Jake Plummer (22/35 309 yds, 4 TD, 1 carry 22 yds) isn't.

:D

Well, Delhomme was facing the great Vikings while Denver was just playing some scrubs from Philly.

dnvrbrncos

10-30-2005, 06:22 PM

ZachKC

10-30-2005, 06:23 PM

I missed the game, how did the chiefs do against the eagles?
Funny, I missed the Miami game...I will tell you mine if you tell me yours...

Jetmeck

10-30-2005, 06:24 PM

I am impressed you took time to stop cheering for past Broncos to make this post that had something to do with this season. Amazing. I will PM a few guys around here to back you up on this so you don't start whining.

Might as well make everyone happy.

Thx again, I appreciate the offer. But I am all full up on whining, heard plenty of it (BRONCO CLUB)in the next room as the Chiefs choked. Heard even more of it on KC local sports talk radio on the way home and I look forward to seeing some on my local KC news tonight. Thanks but no thanks.

Kaylore

10-30-2005, 06:24 PM

We average 3-1 in each quarter of the season and I don't care how much the media talks about the Boltz.

SoCalBronco

10-30-2005, 06:24 PM

Would you like them to J-O while they talk about Denver?

While that would certainly be ideal....I would appreciate it, if the 4 guys on Fox hadnt said stupid things like "San Diego might be the best team in the entire AFC" after the game, totally ignoring us, the division leader.

ZachKC

10-30-2005, 06:25 PM

Thx again, I appreciate the offer. But I am all full up on whining, heard plenty of it (BRONCO CLUB)in the next room as the Chiefs choked. Heard even more of it on KC local sports talk radio on the way home and I look forward to seeing some on my local KC news tonight. Thanks but no thanks.
Wow, you listen to KC sports radio?

You must really hate yourself.

Jetmeck

10-30-2005, 06:28 PM

Wow, you listen to KC sports radio?

You must really hate yourself.

810 Kansas City tends to bleed over 850 from Denver once in a while, hence I heard a few moments of crying as they listed stats for the 564 yards of total offense we put on the NFC Champions today.

Liebs

10-30-2005, 06:41 PM

i think we're going to have to win another superbowl for people to be back on our jock, that's what it's going to take.

ZachKC

10-30-2005, 06:42 PM

i think we're going to have to win another superbowl for people to be back on our jock, that's what it's going to take.
You could be on to something there...I don't even think it would take a SB though...

dnvrbrncos

10-30-2005, 06:44 PM

Funny, I missed the Miami game...I will tell you mine if you tell me yours...

If I recall correctly we lost that one which kept us from having a 3 game lead in the west.

ZachKC

10-30-2005, 06:47 PM

If I recall correctly we lost that one which kept us from having a 3 game lead in the west.
Wait, if you had won that game you would have had a 3 game lead in the west after Week 1? Thats freakin amazing.

Aside from that.

We beat Miami and you lost to them.
You beat Philly and we lost to them.

Now back to actual interesting conversation...

Drek

10-30-2005, 07:04 PM

Wait, if you had won that game you would have had a 3 game lead in the west after Week 1? Thats freakin amazing.

Aside from that.

We beat Miami and you lost to them.
You beat Philly and we lost to them.

Now back to actual interesting conversation...True, comparing success against similar opponents is kinda moot talk in the NFL's modern "any given Sunday", deeply talented league.

What I do find VERY interesting though is 30-10. Thats real relevant, and real nice. :)

Rock Chalk

10-30-2005, 07:09 PM

They played all of your highlights. Would you like them to J-O while they talk about Denver? I am not sure what the Broncos "are not getting" in this case.

Either way. Threads like this make OM go round.
Which begs the question, why do you return here? If you don't like it that is...

ZachKC

10-30-2005, 07:10 PM

Which begs the question, why do you return here? If you don't like it that is...
Who said I don't like it.

I didn't.

Atlas

10-30-2005, 07:12 PM

GreatBronco16

10-30-2005, 07:18 PM

WERE 6-2 YOUR....... NOT

Actually they are one game better than at this point last year. So I guess they go 8-8 this year and Denver goes 11-5. If we go by past history.

ScottXray

10-30-2005, 07:26 PM

Rock Chalk

10-30-2005, 07:27 PM

Who said I don't like it.

I didn't.
You criticize enough, nor did I say you didn't like it, I said IF, pay attention nimrod.

Garcia Bronco

10-30-2005, 07:27 PM

WERE 6-2 YOUR....... NOT

Bottom line is...Zach is talking about last weeks win...we're talking about this week's win.

ZachKC

10-30-2005, 10:27 PM

Note to ZKC: Elvis has LEFT the building! This is as relevant to KC this year as your posts about mis-statements of records, etc., etc. Whatever floats the boat for you, I guess.

Nice to see your back and posting irrelevant and minor Grammar smack.

Good take on neither team having proven anything until they win a playoff game. True statement. Your upcoming schedule may look easier...but then that's why they play the games.
Right now it looks to me like Denver is a more "complete" and balanced team, than KC. Hopefully we get a few players healthier and continue our winning ways. The game in KC next month looms large.

:garcia:
There was no grammar smack in this thread from me...I have no idea what you are talking about...

Aside from that I agree Denver is more complete and balanced at this point in time. Lots of football to play.

At this point (things change) I don't think either of our teams would do anything in the post season. It will be exciting to see how things pan out...

GreatBronco16

10-30-2005, 10:31 PM

There was no grammar smack in this thread from me...I have no idea what you are talking about...

Aside from that I agree Denver is more complete and balanced at this point in time. Lots of football to play.

At this point (things change) I don't think either of our teams would do anything in the post season. It will be exciting to see how things pan out...

At this point you don't think Denver could do anything in the playoffs? You're going by the last couple years and not looking at what has happend this year. Who in the AFC that you think will be in the playoffs do you feel would beat Denver in Denver being that Denver is on pace to have atleast 1 home game in the playoffs. Lets just go by this year shall we?

ZachKC

10-30-2005, 10:33 PM

At this point you don't think Denver could do anything in the playoffs? You're going by the last couple years and not looking at what has happend this year. Who in the AFC that you think will be in the playoffs do you feel would beat Denver in Denver being that Denver is on pace to have atleast 1 home game in the playoffs. Lets just go by this year shall we?
Indy and Pittsburgh beat Denver in Denver.

SoCalBronco

10-30-2005, 10:34 PM

There was no grammar smack in this thread from me...I have no idea what you are talking about...

Aside from that I agree Denver is more complete and balanced at this point in time. Lots of football to play.

At this point (things change) I don't think either of our teams would do anything in the post season. It will be exciting to see how things pan out...

You say at this point you dont think either of our teams would do anything in the post season, but if we looked at things right now, the Broncos would be a division champion and host at least 1 playoff game at home against a wildcard team with a worse record. You dont think they could win that game? You dont think Denver could beat say...Jacksonville in Denver? Dont think they could beat the Chiefs in Denver? Cincinnati in Denver?

Come on Zach.

ZachKC

10-30-2005, 10:35 PM

Indy and Pittsburgh beat Denver in Denver.
I also have to point to Denver's ability to drop games to teams much ****tier than they are for no rhyme or reason...

Sometimes you guys just decide not to show up.

ZachKC

10-30-2005, 10:37 PM

You say at this point you dont think either of our teams would do anything in the post season, but if we looked at things right now, the Broncos would be a division champion and host at least 1 playoff game at home against a wildcard team with a worse record. You dont think they could win that game? You dont think Denver could beat say...Jacksonville in Denver? Dont think they could beat the Chiefs in Denver? Cincinnati in Denver?

Come on Zach.
I think Denver has won of the best teams in the NFL. But I think this is true the past few years as well...that hasn't gotten you folks anywhere...

If you guys show up and play your game you have a great chance to win. Its just so amazing how there is a history of not showing up and getting beat by teams that shouldn't be able to run with you.

I also think Pitt and Indy are just flat out better.

I am not saying you guys can't do it...I guess I will just believe it when I see it.

Pezman

10-30-2005, 10:37 PM

There was no grammar smack in this thread from me...I have no idea what you are talking about...

Aside from that I agree Denver is more complete and balanced at this point in time. Lots of football to play.

At this point (things change) I don't think either of our teams would do anything in the post season. It will be exciting to see how things pan out...

Dont take it wrong my friend. But its alot more fun watching you scrap arguments this year as opposed to a couple years ago when your team started 10-0 only to flame out in the end... I'll always like that old tag line you used to use too. Something along the lines of... "It kills you that the Chiefs are so good" or something like that Ha! Good times, good times

ZachKC

10-30-2005, 10:39 PM

Dont take it wrong my friend. But its alot more fun watching you scrap arguments this year as opposed to a couple years ago when your team started 10-0 only to flame out in the end... I'll always like that old tag line you used to use too. Something along the lines of... "It kills you that the Chiefs are so good" or something like that Ha! Good times, good times
I don't remember having a catch phrase but the overall point is a good one.

Quite a lesson.

Interesting things happen to teams who peak at the right time.

Pezman

10-30-2005, 10:41 PM

I don't remember having a catch phrase but the overall point is a good one.

Quite a lesson.

Interesting things happen to teams who peak at the right time.

Ah, its all in the cycle. Hell, 10 years ago we could've had the same type of discussion with these teams (except the Seahawks, who always sucked in the AFC). Considering how different the AFC West is every year, its really anybody's ballgame at this point too. I wouldnt be suprised if all 4 teams are in this race until the end.

ZachKC

10-30-2005, 10:44 PM

Ah, its all in the cycle. Hell, 10 years ago we could've had the same type of discussion with these teams (except the Seahawks, who always sucked in the AFC). Considering how different the AFC West is every year, its really anybody's ballgame at this point too. I wouldnt be suprised if all 4 teams are in this race until the end.
I don't think the Raiders do anything of signifigance. It will be a close one at the top. Does San Diego get a chance to catch up if you guys drop a couple and we don't step up with big wins?

I feel good about my teams ability to do very well for themselves. At this point I don't see alot that says we could do much beyond that. But if the line could improve themselves from the stability of getting the same guys working together on a consistant basis for the first time we could do great things. We just need the offense to step up. The defense puts us in situations to win games on a consistant basis.

Pezman

10-30-2005, 10:51 PM

I don't think the Raiders do anything of signifigance. It will be a close one at the top. Does San Diego get a chance to catch up if you guys drop a couple and we don't step up with big wins?

I feel good about my teams ability to do very well for themselves. At this point I don't see alot that says we could do much beyond that. But if the line could improve themselves from the stability of getting the same guys working together on a consistant basis for the first time we could do great things. We just need the offense to step up. The defense puts us in situations to win games on a consistant basis.

The fact that San Diego has struggled to get the rock to LT lately has been a head turning shocker for sure, especially today. But, the Chiefs secondary needs to really step up their red zone if they expect to make waves. Now if they do... yikes! The re-emergence of Gonzo and Trent today is impressive for you guys but, the real threat lies in the offensive line regaining its health too. With them blocking better, Larry and Priest have both found their niche in that scheme and that scares me. I think its gonna be one hell of a finish if this keeps up.

As for the Bolts, dont count them out yet either. Their d has really shown flashes of brilliance lately and the fact that they have some flukey losses notwithstanding, I still think they might be the toughest foe for all of us.

The Fade are still a Jekell and Hyde team right now. They are getting no real contributions from their run game on a consistant basis, but seem to be finding ways to get Lamont Jordan involved either way. The fact that their d is still mediocre will keep them from really being a factor in the race, but I wouldnt be suprised at all to see the Broncos stumble against them in two weeks.

Blueflame

10-30-2005, 10:52 PM

WERE 6-2 YOUR....... NOT

...or to re-phrase... We're 6-2; the Chefs are 4-3... tied with the Boltz (well, except that the Boltz would be ranked above the Chefs due to having won today) and one slender (almost anorexic) win ahead of the cellar-dwelling Fade.

ZachKC

10-30-2005, 10:56 PM

The fact that San Diego has struggled to get the rock to LT lately has been a head turning shocker for sure, especially today. But, the Chiefs secondary needs to really step up their red zone if they expect to make waves. Now if they do... yikes! The re-emergence of Gonzo and Trent today is impressive for you guys but, the real threat lies in the offensive line regaining its health too. With them blocking better, Larry and Priest have both found their niche in that scheme and that scares me. I think its gonna be one hell of a finish if this keeps up.

Our secondary needs to step up but...they do a pretty decent job when you look at where they were last year. This defense is much more physical Every now and then they get burned for the big one. Today they got hung out to dry big time. Aside from Denver (where not a single Chief showed up to play ball except for Kennison) our run defense has been very very good. The Chiefs have not allowed a 100 yard rusher this season. The defense usually hold tough in the redzone and they have a knack for creating turnovers. Like I said...they have put this team in a position to win all year. Things get messy when the offense decides to make a 3 play cameo and trots back to the bench. It all starts up front...feat or famine. The line is either dominating or its ugly. We have problems with pass protection on the right side. When given time Trent does a lot of good things but without time any QB is going to get his **** kicked in no matter who you have back there. The Chiefs don't do a good enough job capitalizing on good field position for some reason or another. I have also always stressed the importance of getting 7 and not 3 when you are within 10 yards of the endzone. We have a problem with that. But its interesting because you can see this team flash things that are great when there is protection. When the offensive line does its thing this offense rolls like they have the past few years...

Pezman

10-30-2005, 10:59 PM

Our secondary needs to step up but...they do a pretty decent job. Every now and then they get burned for the big one. Today they got hung out to dry big time. Aside from Denver (where not a single Chief showed up to play ball except for Kennison) our run defense has been very very good. The Chiefs have not allowed a 100 yard rusher this season. The defense usually hold tough in the redzone and they have a knack for creating turnovers. Like I said...they have put this team in a position to win all year. Things get messy when the offense decides to make a 3 play cameo and trots back to the bench. It all starts up front...feat or famine. The line is either dominating or its ugly. We have problems with pass protection on the right side. When given time Trent does a lot of good things but without time any QB is going to get his **** kicked in no matter who you have back there. The Chiefs don't do a good enough job capitalizing on good field position for some reason or another. I have also always stressed the importance of getting 7 and not 3 when you are within 10 yards of the endzone. We have a problem with that. But its interesting because you can see this team flash things that are great when there is protection. When the offensive line does its thing this offense rolls like they have the past few years...

Lord knows, Dante Hall gave you guys some great golden real estate today too after kickoffs. That's the type of thing that is killing you guys for sure, especially if you cant convert on those short field scoring ops.

What really suprised me was how Trent was pressured today. The Chargers really found a way to break through your line at key times today. That was an eye opener for sure.

GreatBronco16

10-30-2005, 10:59 PM

Indy and Pittsburgh beat Denver in Denver.

This year? Or are you using the past again? Also, Denver wouldn't go against Indy first in the playoffs if things go the way they are going which is what I said. Pitt would probably win their division so Denver probably wouldn't play them. Look at the standings and then tell me who you think Denver would end up facing first in Denver that would beat them. All Denver has to do is win one playoff game to be better than the last couple years.

ZachKC

10-30-2005, 11:02 PM

This year? Or are you using the past again? Also, Denver wouldn't go against Indy first in the playoffs if things go the way they are going which is what I said. Pitt would probably win their division so Denver probably wouldn't play them. Look at the standings and then tell me who you think Denver would end up facing first in Denver that would beat them. All Denver has to do is win one playoff game to be better than the last couple years.
You asked me who would go into Denver and beat you and I gave you my opinion. Whatever I say you'll disagree its cool.

Aside from that so many things will change from now to then. I think talk of seedings and home games is a bit foolish at this juncture.

SoCalBronco

10-30-2005, 11:06 PM

You asked me who would go into Denver and beat you and I gave you my opinion. Whatever I say you'll disagree its cool.

Aside from that so many things will change from now to then. I think talk of seedings and home games is a bit foolish at this juncture.

But thats not the issue, Zach. The thing was whether either of our teams would do anything in the playoffs. When we are discussing who is going to "go into Denver" it certainly isnt going to be Indy or Pittsburgh FIRST. If Denver is going to host a playoff game, its almost virtually certain one of those teams would NOT be the visitor. Rather, the likely visitor would be a possible wildcard club such as KC, JAX or CIN. Winning a playoff game, to me, constitutes doing something. I dont think anyone ever said you have to win the conference to "Do something" in the playoffs.

ZachKC

10-30-2005, 11:09 PM

But thats not the issue, Zach. The thing was whether either of our teams would do anything in the playoffs. When we are discussing who is going to "go into Denver" it certainly isnt going to be Indy or Pittsburgh FIRST. If Denver is going to host a playoff game, its almost virtually certain one of those teams would NOT be the visitor. Rather, the likely visitor would be a possible wildcard club such as KC, JAX or CIN. Winning a playoff game, to me, constitutes doing something. I dont think anyone ever said you have to win the conference to "Do something" in the playoffs.
I just don't share your vision of how "set" everyone is with so much football to play.

Most of my opinion comes from the fact that you guys have this interesting thing where you decide to not bring your A game and you lose to a team you prob should of beat. I think its possible you could have the best team going into the playoffs and just drop the ball. The Miami game this year just made me believe that you guys are not a team who will do much in the playoffs...

SoCalBronco

10-30-2005, 11:11 PM

I just don't share your vision of how "set" everyone is with so much football to play.

I didnt say it was set that we were going to win the division or even win another ballgame. However, it WAS YOU who said in an earlier post something to the effect of "at this point I dont think either of our teams are going to do anything at the playoffs" so by implication you are going by what you have seen so far, which is why I chose to assume that the playoffs started right now with the facts we have currently before us.

ZachKC

10-30-2005, 11:13 PM

I didnt say it was set that we were going to win the division or even win another ballgame. However, it WAS YOU who said in an earlier post something to the effect of "at this point I dont think either of our teams are going to do anything at the playoffs" so by implication you are going by what you have seen so far, which is why I chose to assume that the playoffs started right now with the facts we have currently before us.
I threw in a lil more in an edit...

GreatBronco16

10-30-2005, 11:19 PM

Aside from that so many things will change from now to then. I think talk of seedings and home games is a bit foolish at this juncture.

Just like talk of Denver not doing anything in the playoffs this year is a bit foolish at this juncture.

GreatBronco16

10-30-2005, 11:23 PM

But thats not the issue, Zach. The thing was whether either of our teams would do anything in the playoffs. When we are discussing who is going to "go into Denver" it certainly isnt going to be Indy or Pittsburgh FIRST. If Denver is going to host a playoff game, its almost virtually certain one of those teams would NOT be the visitor. Rather, the likely visitor would be a possible wildcard club such as KC, JAX or CIN. Winning a playoff game, to me, constitutes doing something. I dont think anyone ever said you have to win the conference to "Do something" in the playoffs.

Yeah I figured he knew that from his past posts. Guees not.

Most of my opinion comes from the fact that you guys have this interesting thing where you decide to not bring your A game and you lose to a team you prob should of beat.

So you're saying that Denver should have beat Indy the past two years in the playoffs even though they were the underdogs in those games and they were away games? Wait, you'll come back with the Miami game or some other regular season game that doesn't mean jack in the playoffs.

ZachKC

10-30-2005, 11:25 PM

Yeah I figured he knew that from his past posts. Guees not.

So you're saying that Denver should have beat Indy the past two years in the playoffs even though they were the underdogs in those games and they were away games? Wait, you'll come back with the Miami game or some other regular season game that doesn't mean jack in the playoffs.
I am saying Denver was as good of team if not better than Indy in those past years...and all the things you guys are doing during the span of this regular season have been done.

You guys have a history of not showing up for random games. That kind of thing seems to catch up to teams in the playoffs.

Wes Mantooth

10-30-2005, 11:27 PM

Fine by me.
wasn't the show recorded before the game was over?

GreatBronco16

10-30-2005, 11:29 PM

I am saying Denver was as good of team if not better than Indy in those past years...and all the things you guys are doing during the span of this regular season have been done.

You guys have a history of not showing up for random games. That kind of thing seems to catch up to teams in the playoffs.

Nearly every team loses to a team they should beat during the regular season. See the Falcons against the Chiefs last year. Also, Denver is 6-2 after going 5-1 which is something they haven't done in the past couple years after going 5-1 or 4-1. Also, I don't recall Denver having as many 200 yard games in the first 8 games as this year either. I don't remember Plummer playing as well as he is in the first 8 games of the season. When was the last time Plummer had a TD/INT ratio that he has now through 8 games? When was the last time Denver was in the + side of the turnover ratio through the first 8 games?

You are wrong. Very wrong.

ZachKC

10-30-2005, 11:32 PM

So you're saying that Denver should have beat Indy the past two years in the playoffs even though they were the underdogs in those games and they were away games? Wait, you'll come back with the Miami game or some other regular season game that doesn't mean jack in the playoffs.
If you think some of those games don't have any bearing on how things pan out for your season and your play in the playoffs then thats fine. I think everything goes into what a team does in the playoffs. I think losing to really ****ty teams is a big deal and a big problem. Can this be the year you turn it around and make things happen? Sure. All I am saying is that its interesting...

I think dropping a game to bottom feeding Miami is something to make you guys think twice. Hopefully your real team shows up to play in the playoffs...

Losing to Miami this year...
Losing to bottom feeding Oakland in your house last year...
Losing to bottom feeding Chicago in your house the year before that...

I think that was in Denver...I could be wrong.

I am not saying a team has to win every game. But I believe great teams beat teams they should beat.

ZachKC

10-30-2005, 11:33 PM

You are wrong. Very wrong.
Could be...I just think this is all land you have plowed before. If you guys make waves in the playoffs then im wrong. Until then...

I will believe this is a different team when I see it.

GreatBronco16

10-30-2005, 11:36 PM

If you think some of those games don't have any bearing on how things pan out for your season and your play in the playoffs then thats fine. I think everything goes into what a team does in the playoffs. I think losing to really ****ty teams is a big deal and a big problem. Can this be the year you turn it around and make things happen? Sure. All I am saying is that its interesting...

I think dropping a game to bottom feeding Miami is something to make you guys think twice. Hopefully your real team shows up to play in the playoffs...

Losing to Miami this year...
Losing to bottom feeding Oakland in your house last year...
Losing to bottom feeding Chicago in your house the year before that...

I think that was in Denver...I could be wrong.

I am not saying a team has to win every game. But I believe great teams beat teams they should beat.

Yeah, it's hard to believe that NE even won a super bowl the year they got beat up by either Miami or the Bills that year in their first game.

I would say that the last 2 or 3 weeks games would indicate what kind of team you might see in the playoffs, not games won or loss in the first couple of weeks like you are suggesting.

GreatBronco16

10-30-2005, 11:38 PM

Could be...I just think this is all land you have plowed before. If you guys make waves in the playoffs then im wrong. Until then...

I will believe this is a different team when I see it.

Well, you have missed it allready, cause if you go by the last two or three seasons which you are doing, then Denver should have lost this game today. Guess you missed it, Denver won 49-21.

ZachKC

10-30-2005, 11:38 PM

Yeah, it's hard to believe that NE even won a super bowl the year they got beat up by either Miami or the Bills that year in their first game.

I would say that the last 2 or 3 weeks games would indicate what kind of team you might see in the playoffs, not games won or loss in the first couple of weeks like you are suggesting.
It is all about peaking at the right time...thats why there is so much exciting football to play.

Lots of things will be happening from now December.

ZachKC

10-30-2005, 11:39 PM

Well, you have missed it allready, cause if you go by the last two or three seasons which you are doing, then Denver should have lost this game today. Guess you missed it, Denver won 49-21.
No worries...there is still alot of time for you guys to drop the ball "down the stretch"

GreatBronco16

10-30-2005, 11:42 PM

I am not saying a team has to win every game. But I believe great teams beat teams they should beat.

So you think the SB teams of 97 and 98 beat every team they should have beat? By that, then you think NE wasn't a great team atleast in one of the years they won the superbowl since they lost to a team more than once that they should have beat.

Your logic is flawed because those games can be made up by beating teams that you shouldn't beat.

You should really take your blinders off. You are missing alot from Denver this year.

DomCasual

10-30-2005, 11:43 PM

I am thinking of a word, and it begins with, "WHO CARES?"

I get caught up in that stuff sometimes, but I am done with it. All the "we don't get respect" stuff got out of hand around here the week before the Giants game, and we embarrassed ourselves.

At the end of the day, what Fox Sports, Sean Salisbury, NFL.com, or Bob the wicked-cool programmer say about the Broncos won't mean squat once the playoffs start. If we go on a winning streak then, and end up the last team standing, we'll get so much respect, it will make us all sick.

ZachKC

10-30-2005, 11:44 PM

You should really take your blinders off. You are missing alot from Denver this year.
Hey man, I have seen great Denver teams before. I have been very very impressed with Denver teams all of these past years. I have also seen very very good Denver teams get into the playoffs and act like they forgot how to play football. If you want to keep running around in circles its cool...

You could be right...or I could be right. Nobody is right at this point. Playoffs have not started.

I guess we shall see...

24champ

10-30-2005, 11:58 PM

You know the last time we lost to the Giants and the Dolphins in the same season we got to the super bowl and won....coincidence?:~ohyah!:

GreatBronco16

10-31-2005, 12:10 AM

You know the last time we lost to the Giants and the Dolphins in the same season we got to the super bowl and won....coincidence?:~ohyah!:

Well Zach did say he sees a pattern with this Denver team. Somehow I guess that isn't one of them either.

GreatBronco16

10-31-2005, 12:12 AM

Hey man, I have seen great Denver teams before. I have been very very impressed with Denver teams all of these past years. I have also seen very very good Denver teams get into the playoffs and act like they forgot how to play football. If you want to keep running around in circles its cool...

You could be right...or I could be right. Nobody is right at this point. Playoffs have not started.

I guess we shall see...

Well which one is it? First you talk about how you have seen this same Denver team before with this same record. Then I show you that it isn't the same record or the same team to this point in the season, and now you move on to the playoffs. I seem to recall that Denver would struggle in the playoffs at one time before finally getting it together and making a move in the playoffs. You can't have it both ways.

ZachKC

10-31-2005, 12:14 AM

Well which one is it? First you talk about how you have seen this same Denver team before with this same record. Then I show you that it isn't the same record or the same team to this point in the season, and now you move on to the playoffs. I seem to recall that Denver would struggle in the playoffs at one time before finally getting it together and making a move in the playoffs. You can't have it both ways.
I didn't say same record...I said same kind of team.....if you want to keep talking football thats cool with me. If you want to have an imaginary conversation with me and respond to things I don't say then do it somewhere else.

GreatBronco16

10-31-2005, 01:20 AM

I didn't say same record...I said same kind of team.....if you want to keep talking football thats cool with me. If you want to have an imaginary conversation with me and respond to things I don't say then do it somewhere else.

The same kind of team as years past up to this point would mean they would have the same kind of record would it not? You don't have to actually say something to insinuate it. If you can't argue with the facts then just say so. But stop going back and forth just to try and find a reason for your opinion.

clarker

10-31-2005, 07:05 AM

clarker

10-31-2005, 07:08 AM

Hey man, I have seen great Denver teams before. I have been very very impressed with Denver teams all of these past years. I have also seen very very good Denver teams get into the playoffs and act like they forgot how to play football. If you want to keep running around in circles its cool...

You could be right...or I could be right. Nobody is right at this point. Playoffs have not started.

I guess we shall see...
How does that make Denver any different than the Chiefsl, the king of the first round Home Field play off flop? Other than since Super Bowl the Broncos have been to 6 Super Bowls and won 2 and the Chiefs have been to 1 perhaps 2 AFC title games since then and lost.

Jetmeck

10-31-2005, 07:12 AM

Don't for get we beat you. With ease.

Totally irrelevant (Chef fuzzy logic)

Darkdoc

10-31-2005, 07:24 AM

You want love, buy a dog.

We don't need or especially want any props from them. WE love our team, it's all that counts. We don't need any of them slobbering on the Broncos for us to love every "W", and have a fun, fun season.

And until we get past Indy in a playoff game, they have no respect for the Broncos. Even after that, their respect will be brief and fickle.

Paladin

10-31-2005, 07:28 AM

The only things that really matter are the current standings and next weeks' games. With the bye, I hope that Champ is able to just rest and get that hammy squared away. Even if it means he sits against the Fades, I would rather see him get well. Well, at least better.

Then I'd like to see the chefs get kicked around by the Fades. I know that there is a smaller chance for that to happen, but as the mullet is saying, "Anything can happen". I really have a hard time saying this but, "GO FAIDERS!!!"

I would also like to se the Jets do their once-a-year magic trick and become a football team for one day and smack the Chuggers.

Bye week is for dreaming.

Old Dude

10-31-2005, 07:56 AM

One of the main purposes of post game and highlight shows is to generate hype for the following week.

The Broncos don't play next week.

We shouldn't expect a lot of attention.

~Crash~

10-31-2005, 08:08 AM

They played all of your highlights. Would you like them to J-O while they talk about Denver? I am not sure what the Broncos "are not getting" in this case.

Either way. Threads like this make OM go round.

so I got a ticket for you go to the planet and don't let the door hit you:poke:

~Crash~

10-31-2005, 08:33 AM

ludo21

10-31-2005, 08:36 AM

their so small, lol

thats kinda gross.

Broncoman13

10-31-2005, 08:40 AM

In fact...I'm surprised they got us as much as they did considering they were moments away from Brushi Bowl 2005 :)

We're getting some love, that's for sure.

I was also impressed with Bruschi last night. He played a pretty good game. Out of position a few times, but he had a good night. Glad to see him do well. I hope the Pats comeback to win the East. We'll need them to beat the Colts!!! :thumbsup: