For those who give a damn about the rep system...

[Taco John]

I've made changes to this plauge of a "feature" that I hope will appease the masses so that I don't have to worry about people leaving because their rep schlong isn't as long as someone elses'. I keep the system because people enjoy the comments, which are really the only thing I care about. Never the less, there is a point scheme attached to it, and I'll be the first to admit that it was probably out of tune. This whole "rep" concept is a relatively young one on the grand scheme of things.

The last system worked well for awhile but it scaled for hell. Newbies would come in and max their rep in a week because every other fool in this place (meaning the rest of us) had hugely inflated rep numbers.

In any case, here are the new numbers which calculate how many rep points a person has to give (or take) per hit:

Register Date Factor
For every 365 days, users gain 1 point of reputation-altering power.

From my perspective, people who have been with this site from the beginning should be given a reward for their longstanding loyalty and helping this community get off the ground in the first place. And as more people join, they are given the same reward for their time as a registered member of the board. Every year, the registered member will get an additional point to add to their "rep hammer."

Post Count Factor

For every X number of posts, users gain 0 point of reputation-altering power.

First off, this isn't pointed at anyone in particular, though there are certainly some high profile names around here that people will immediately think of... But after consideration it occurs to me that nobody should be getting any reputation just for the fact that they post. This is like rep welfare. Well, I'm cutting the rep welfare budget.

Reputation Point Factor

For every 1000 points of reputation, users gain 1 point of reputation-altering power.

It's a high climb to the next rep level. This will prevent inflation, and the maxed-out-newcomer scenarios we've seen previously.


Abolishing Rep Rub Threads

I'm closing down the Rep Rub Massage Parlors and recalculating the numbers so that they don't factor in. I will ask my mods to please close these threads and move them to the appropriate place. I encourage the community to give negative rep to people begging for it.

Hopefully this will solve the problems that people have with the system. If you have any further suggestions, please don't hesitate to offer your feedback.

[Dagmar]

You just don't like us Scots do yah TJ?

Well, I'll take my 45 rep points, and well, hang about!

[Taco John]

I wish I was good at Scottish humor. I'd say something funny right back at you if I was. Instead here's a picture of this wierd Ninja Rabbit comic book:

http://store.rabbitvalley.org/image_cache/2801.jpg

[Clockwork Orange]

Just remember, "If it's not Scottish, it's craaap!!

[Pezman]

Bah... Rep was fun for awhile TJ, but I'd rather keep in contact with a bud or two via rep than worry about some damned status amongst the repwhoring nation. For such a useless little thing, rep sure has become quite the headache.

Hell, its even driven some of our oldest members away (possibly forever) because of it. I hope everyone lightens up about it in the future or might I suggest yanking it altogether since it seems that its just become a hassle. My .02c anyway...

Edit... I'd rather not say in public who has left the forum since I am friends with a couple of them...

[Dagmar]

Just remember, "If it's not Scottish, it's craaap!!
Damn straight!

And Taco, us Scots love a bit of surrealist humour.
That certainly made me laugh. And confused me a little. But did make me laugh.
Although I have been indulging the best product to come from my wee country...

Don't worry, I'll earn my way in this holy place.
In a few wee years you'll not remember what it was like to not have a good Kilted Warrior on board.

[Jens1893]

Watch an episode of "Still Game", Taco. That´s if you understand anything. I didn´t, but it´s popular with the Jocks.

[Ninjafied]

Damn straight!
Although I have been indulging the best product to come from my wee country...
Everyone knows the Irish invented whiskey…..
Are you talking about sheep?
(Sorry, I just had to open up that friendly rivalry)

[Jens1893]

Irn Bru and Tennents deserve a mention here. Tennents is better than most of the stuff you get down South.

[Dagmar]

Watch an episode of "Still Game", Taco. That´s if you understand anything. I didn´t, but it´s popular with the Jocks.

You must be English, or have some of that foul blood if you refer to us as "Jocks". :moody:

[Jens1893]

You must be English, or have some of that foul blood if you refer to us as "Jocks". :moody:

You´re the first I know who´s taking offence. And I know plenty.

[Dagmar]

Irn Bru and Tennents deserve a mention here. Tennents is better than most of the stuff you get down South.
You get points for mentioning the beautiful nectar that is Irn Bru. I miss it! Best hangover cure ever. Only in a can, never a bottle tho.

Anyway, we are >:threadjac Taco's thread here.

Ach, not really offence at the Jock thing! Banter ma lad! Banter!

[Dagmar]

Everyone knows the Irish invented whiskey…..
Are you talking about sheep?
(Sorry, I just had to open up that friendly rivalry)

I love a wee snifter of Jameson's. Tasty tasty stuff.

Sheep is Wales...

[Dagmar]

Sorry for the thread Hijackage Taco, us Scot's have a loose tongue verbally and type-lly when drinking apparently.

Ignore the nonsense folks, nothing to see here.

Me now :alky:

Me head soon :bash:

Sorry again TJ.

[Ninjafied]

I love a wee snifter of Jameson's. Tasty tasty stuff.

Sheep is Wales...
Good stuff. But then again, I’ve never met a whiskey that I couldn’t get along with.

[Ninjafied]

OK humor my ignorance – what does rep do? For a guy with under 200 post, I can personally tell you – no a whole lot.
But for the long standing locals, does it mean anything other than respect? Or in the case of the little black dots, lack of respect.

[Orange4Life]

Bah... Rep was fun for awhile TJ, but I'd rather keep in contact with a bud or two via rep than worry about some damned status amongst the repwhoring nation. For such a useless little thing, rep sure has become quite the headache.

Hell, its even driven some of our oldest members away (possibly forever) because of it. I hope everyone lightens up about it in the future or might I suggest yanking it altogether since it seems that its just become a hassle. My .02c anyway...

Edit... I'd rather not say in public who has left the forum since I am friends with a couple of them...
People have left over rep? Wow. I've done some rep whoring (not something I'm proud of) in my day. I thought it was all in fun. I guess you do a little rep whoring and then it gets real for someone and people get hurt.

[Hogan11]

Bah... Rep was fun for awhile TJ, but I'd rather keep in contact with a bud or two via rep than worry about some damned status amongst the repwhoring nation. For such a useless little thing, rep sure has become quite the headache.

Hell, its even driven some of our oldest members away (possibly forever) because of it. I hope everyone lightens up about it in the future or might I suggest yanking it altogether since it seems that its just become a hassle. My .02c anyway...

Edit... I'd rather not say in public who has left the forum since I am friends with a couple of them...

I agree with this. It's a meaningless system that's lost all credibility...maybe the whole thing should have the plug pulled on it.

[Meck77]

Bah... Rep was fun for awhile TJ, but I'd rather keep in contact with a bud or two via rep than worry about some damned status amongst the repwhoring nation. For such a useless little thing, rep sure has become quite the headache.

Hell, its even driven some of our oldest members away (possibly forever) because of it. I hope everyone lightens up about it in the future or might I suggest yanking it altogether since it seems that its just become a hassle. My .02c anyway...

Edit... I'd rather not say in public who has left the forum since I am friends with a couple of them...


Wow........if we lost some of the oldest members of the board to the rep fiasco it's a no brainer to me how valuable rep is. :kiddingme

People make the board not the features of the board.

[Mile High Shack]

Wow........if we lost some of the oldest members of the board to the rep fiasco it's a no brainer to me how valuable rep is. :kiddingme

People make the board not the features of the board.

no kidding

leave rep how it is

do away with rep whore threads

and only get rep for good posts

and no one should care enough to leave a board over rep, that's kinda stupid

[Ray Finkle]

no kidding

leave rep how it is

do away with rep whore threads

and only get rep for good posts

and no one should care enough to leave a board over rep, that's kinda stupid

TJ can you put a feature where people can only give out X number of REP's a week/Month. That way you have to really like what the person has wrote instead of just repping for the sake of repping...

[Taco John]

No. To be honest, I've put as much effort in the system as I care to put in at this point. It's now a fair system that takes two important considerations into how and why people's rep influence grows. There are always going to be ways to cheat, but we can limit those. I just want a system that makes sense. I believe we have that now.

[-Slap-]

No. To be honest, I've put as much effort in the system as I care to put in at this point. It's now a fair system that takes two important considerations into how and why people's rep influence grows. There are always going to be ways to cheat, but we can limit those. I just want a system that makes sense. I believe we have that now.
Except the system is based on inaccurate information and the prejudices of the host.

The first time I posted on this board (per your invitation) was in December of 2001. Shortly after I attended the Denver/Washington freezing rain game. Apparently you don't remember getting upset with me for pointing out that Kent Graham outplayed Brian Griese that afternoon. Maybe that somehow earned me a one year deduction of service. Or maybe this system is as factual as a history book from 1967.

How are you supposed to use join dates as a requisite when you don't even have accurate figures. Guess it doesn't matter, huh?

In fact, based on the title of this thread, you obviously find it completely ridiculous that anyone even gives a damn about rep. Yet, you went ahead and made all these stupid cosmetic changes. I guess that means you gave a damn, Isaac. Otherwise you wouldn't have tried to tailor the system to manipulate the numbers the way you want.

You want a legitimate rep system?

One poster = one point.

All the rest of this is favoritism and bull****.

[Rascal]

BWWWAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!

Can't believe people have actually left but to each his/her own I guess.

If it's become that big of a hassle just scrap the thing.

[Rascal]

Since I joined late I'm punished and not given as much rep as some others around here?

Well I think that's ****...I mean come on look at Pez. His posts suck ass and yet he is rewarded for it.

And especially Spider!! Truck drivers, especially those from Wyoming, who wear pink shirts should not be given a keyboard.

And don't even get me started on that dirty white boy shack.

Worst SYSTEM EVER!!!

That's just BS...I'm gone.

[OrangeShadow]

bring back slap!

[RhymesayersDU]

Wow.

Grown men crying about reputation on an internet message board.

We got some winners around here, I tell ya.

Seriously, who gives a ****.

[Meck77]

How are you supposed to use join dates as a requisite when you don't even have accurate figures. Guess it doesn't matter, huh?

***.

Well you got a point there. I registered somewhere in 2001 but my account got screwed up.

I tried a similar system of seniority when I split up a couple season tix into single game seats for members to purchase. In my mind I thought it was fair to offer up the seats to older members first but boy did it backfire. Not sure how many hateful, bitchy, crying pms and emails I got over that deal.

The reality is there is no guide book to running a messageboard or a tailgate for an online community for that matter. It's a constant state of flux and it's discussions like this that are imporatant to make it better. We can point the finger at Taco and say "You ****ing suck" or members can get off their asses to help make it better whether it's the online tailgate or the actual tailgate in the lot. (didn't mean to hijack the thread with actuall tailgate talk but there are some similarities between the challenges of the two).

Talk is cheap in my book.

[-Slap-]

Wow.

Grown men crying about reputation on an internet message board.

We got some winners around here, I tell ya.

Seriously, who gives a ****.
Start your criticism with the host.

[Rascal]

TJ just can the whole damn thing seriously.

It was a good idea, but the hassel and constant bitching about rep is ridiculous.

[RhymesayersDU]

Start your criticism with the host.
Slap, the truth is, yeah, it's messed up when mock had more rep power than even TJ a couple days ago when this first started.

But who cares? You're a good poster, well liked around these parts, etc. What difference does it make? If we had waffle make a poll for who's better, you win going away.

That number by your name means nothing.

[Rascal]

Slap, the truth is, yeah, it's messed up when mock had more rep power than even TJ a couple days ago when this first started.

But who cares? You're a good poster, well liked around these parts, etc. What difference does it make? If we had waffle make a poll for who's better, you win going away.

That number by your name means nothing.

Why does it matter that mock had more rep power then TJ?

Seriously why? It's worthless ****.

[-Slap-]

Well you got a point there. I registered somewhere in 2001 but my account got screwed up.

I tried a similar system of seniority when I split up a couple season tix into single game seats for members to purchase. In my mind I thought it was fair to offer up the seats to older members first but boy did it backfire. Not sure how many hateful, b****y, crying pms and emails I got over that deal.

The reality is there is no guide book to running a messageboard or a tailgate for an online community for that matter. It's a constant state of flux and it's discussions like this that are imporatant to make it better. We can point the finger at Taco and say "You ****ing suck" or members can get off their asses to help make it better whether it's the online tailgate or the actual tailgate in the lot. (didn't mean to hijack the thread with actuall tailgate talk but there are some similarities between the challenges of the two).

I'm perfectly happy telling Isaac he ****ing sucks on this one.

Why are you even acting like this was a collaborative process? These stupid alterations were enacted unilaterally by the host. When he heard people didn't like it, he starts some snarky thread about "rep schlongs".

The host is misrepresenting join dates and setting idiotic requisites to manipulate the numbers. Then he acts insulted when people point it out. Maybe some people of a competitive nature simply choose not to play in a rigged game.

None of my rep comes from rep whore threads. None of my rep comes from naked women in my avatar box.

I post sports takes and I point out the rather obvious inadequacies of trolls and other losers.

Anyone who doesn't like it can kiss my hairy white ass, starting with the man behind the curtain.

[Needa Pass Rush]

I'm perfectly happy telling Isaac he ****ing sucks on this one.

Why are you even acting like this was a collaborative process? These stupid alterations were enacted unilaterally by the host. When he heard people didn't like it, he starts some snarky thread about "rep schlongs".

The host is misrepresenting join dates and setting idiotic requisites to manipulate the numbers. Then he acts insulted when people point it out. Maybe some people of a competitive nature simply choose not to play in a rigged game.

None of my rep comes from rep whore threads. None of my rep comes from naked women in my avatar box.

I post sports takes and I point out the rather obvious inadequacies of trolls and other losers.

Anyone who doesn't like it can kiss my hairy white ass, starting with the man behind the curtain.


LOL :moon: <~~~ Slappy.

Thank god we have you here to point out others inadequecies for us, Sappy (freudian typo). Do you happen to reconize your own? You sound like a whiney b!tch. STFU :-*

[-Slap-]

LOL :moon: <~~~ Slappy.

Thank god we have you here to point out others inadequecies for us slap. Do you happen to reconize your own? You sound like a whinny b!tch. STFU :-*
Are you a new poster? I've honestly never noticed you until this post.

[-Slap-]

Why does it matter that mock had more rep power then TJ?

Seriously why? It's worthless ****.
Hey, if Taco's idea of charity is establishing a racist, sexist, thrice-banned hate monger as the most infuential member of this community, I can't stop him. I'm not going to give him my tacit approval by sticking around, though.

[Meck77]

Why are you even acting like this was a collaborative process? These stupid alterations were enacted unilaterally by the host. When he heard people didn't like it, he starts some snarky thread about "rep schlongs".

.

Shiat.......I haven't been around here much over the last week or so. I made no reference to this being a collaborative process. If it was this thread probably wouldn't even exist but with this many members there is just no way to please all the people all the time.. My point is instead of people personally attacking one another why not offer some constructive criticism to improve the board?

I'm out. The Disco Man has shown up to the office! WOOOOOOOOOOOOO! I have a tailgate to plan. I'll let you guys figure out the rep thing.

[Bronco_Beerslug]

LOL :moon: <~~~ Slappy.

Thank god we have you here to point out others inadequecies for us, Sappy (freudian typo). Do you happen to reconize your own? You sound like a whiney b!tch. STFU :-*
You sure like telling people to STFU, eh? Maybe you should learn how to MYOFB!

[Needa Pass Rush]

Are you a new poster? I've honestly never noticed you until this post.


No sweat, it's probably because your too self-absorbed...... or stalking mock to have another purse swinging demonstration.

[Needa Pass Rush]

You sure like telling people to STFU, eh? Maybe you should learn how to MYOFB!

Take your own advice. For grown men you guys sure get excited about next to nothing.

[Mile High Shack]

in the words of a horrible ex-coach--Pat Jones

"guys, I'm absolutely bumfuzzeled"

I can't figure out why people care about rep so much, it was fun when TJ first started it now I barely pay attention to it

[Odysseus]

I agree with Slap on this.

[PatsWin2002]

Well you got a point there. I registered somewhere in 2001 but my account got screwed up.

I noticed that too, Meck.

You were the one that told me about this place and I'm shown registered a few days before you. I always thought that was weird....not "drive a bus cross country to watch a football game" kinda weird, but weird nonetheless. ;)

[Odysseus]

No sweat, it's probably because your too self-absorbed...... or stalking mock to have another purse swinging demonstration.

How do you stalk a guy who posts 45,000 post? The guy is everywhere. If you think it's funny being on the short end of one of his tirades. Let me know. I'll see if I can hook you up.

[Rascal]

Hey, if Taco's idea of charity is establishing a racist, sexist, thrice-banned hate monger as the most infuential member of this community, I can't stop him. I'm not going to give him my tacit approval by sticking around, though.

That's what I seriously don't get...why are we going to allow a stupid thing like rep determine who is influential on the board?

So because I joined up later then somebody else I'm not as influential?

So one of those original members that joined up initially that haven't been around since then could come back and have more power then somebody who has been active in the time they have been here? See the flaw?

That's why the whole thing is **** anyway. All it does is create fights about who should have more power or those who have more rep who others feel shouldn't deserve it.

[Odysseus]

in the words of a horrible ex-coach--Pat Jones

"guys, I'm absolutely bumfuzzeled"

I can't figure out why people care about rep so much, it was fun when TJ first started it now I barely pay attention to it

Rep USED to be fun.

[Odysseus]

That's what I seriously don't get...why are we going to allow a stupid thing like rep determine who is influential on the board?

Agreed.

[Rascal]

Rep USED to be fun.

When people are leaving because of it, it no longer serves that purpose.

The whole thing should be canned.

[PatsWin2002]

This is gonna be TJ in about 10 minutes:

:garcia:

[maven]

Can someone slam me down to negative REP & is that possible? Give me -100 for all I care. Why people care about this is beyone me.

[Rascal]

This is gonna be TJ in about 10 minutes:

:garcia:

if it gets rid of this stupid system good.

The amount of bitching and moaning over a worthless red box/number is amazing.

You shouldn't need a red box or a number to tell you who is influential among the board and who is a good poster.

[Alkazar]

I've always seen and used the rep option the way it (apparently) was supposed to be, as a way to show when you agree/disagree with a post strongly enough to warrant more than just a simply reply on the thread. If everything works the way TJ wants, then I say the change is for the better.

[Play2win]

How do you stalk a guy who posts 45,000 post? The guy is everywhere. If you think it's funny being on the short end of one of his tirades. Let me know. I'll see if I can hook you up.
Yeah, but which Persona, of Mock's many, many multiple Personalities... ;D

[RhymesayersDU]

if it gets rid of this stupid system good.

The amount of b****ing and moaning over a worthless red box/number is amazing.

You shouldn't need a red box or a number to tell you who is influential among the board and who is a good poster.

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Rascal again.

;)

[Rock Chalk]

Wow, you know I wasnt happy about not having a rep stick as long as Sassy's, but it wasnt that big of a deal.

Slappy, calm yourself down man, its a toy, not a godsend.

Taco, get rid of the points, thats the only way to make everyone happy. I like the comment feature.

[BMF Bronco]

Taco,
Just let us rep ourselves, that way everyone will STFU and realize this is a site for entertainment and not who has the better "reputation". WTF are we in middle school again?!

[Mile High Shack]

I say leave it how it is

people will always find something to bitch at, so it's pointless to try and fix it anymore

leave it how it is and people will get use to it

[PatsWin2002]

TJ, if the rep system isn't able to be broken apart programatically, can you alter the HTML that writes out the controversial stuff to the page?

Meaning.....comment out the HTML that displays the "Rep Power:" line beneath the avatars.....and remove the Reputation column from the Members List page.

A nice server-side comment would work nicely....it'd keep folks from rooting through the browser source code trying to determine rep. :)

Is that possible? Mind you, I know zilch about this board software and php.

[BroncoMatt]

ran through the posts and gave everyone rep, enjoy

[Play2win]

Talk about the INSTANT GRATIFICATION Generation...

[Needa Pass Rush]

Taco,
Just let us rep ourselves, that way everyone will STFU and realize this is a site for entertainment and not who has the better "reputation". WTF are we in middle school again?!

Bingo. Alec is right on the money, too, IMHO.

[Alkazar]

I say leave it how it is

people will always find something to b**** at, so it's pointless to try and fix it anymore

leave it how it is and people will get use to it

Agreed, and they'll always find ways around the system to try and make themselves look better. Anyone who spends any kind of time on the board knows who the respected posters are despite what thier "Rep" number is.

[BroncoMatt]

Rep is overrated, but I like that TJ tried to find a way to balance longevity, number of posts as well as rep from other users. I've been here a long time but don't post that often, usually the point I may want to make has already been made because we have such a large and intellligent community. I don't even bother with the Denver Post or Rocky Mtn Rag anymore, the OM is far more current and has better information.

[epicSocialism4tw]

Some thoughts for Taco:

The best part of the rep system is reading the personal messages. I think it develops a sense of relationship with the posters that share rep with you. It helps to fill the void from impersonal reading to a sort of fellowship that you experience in the real world by noticing the mannerisms of people and responding with your own behaviors.

The points part of it just makes it fun and encourages you to pass it around for the authors of the posts that you enjoy.

I dont understand why people get so upset over it. I dont look at someones rep and deduce that they are well-liked. It took me a long time to get rep because I dont use avatars of near-naked women (a pet peeve of mine...I cant look at this site around my girlfriend or my neice because it bothers her and I dont want my neice around that stuff) or use some of the other tactics out there. I really dont care. Reading the comments is the best part.

[Rascal]

See that's it.

So somebody who joined in 2001 but rarely contributes has more power then somebody who joined in 2003 who contributes regularly?

There is no perfect system, which is why the entire thing should be canned.

[BroncoMatt]

See that's it.

So somebody who joined in 2001 but rarely contributes has more power then somebody who joined in 2003 who contributes regularly?

There is no perfect system, which is why the entire thing should be canned.


thats why you have more dots

[epicSocialism4tw]

See that's it.

So somebody who joined in 2001 but rarely contributes has more power then somebody who joined in 2003 who contributes regularly?

There is no perfect system, which is why the entire thing should be canned.

Yeah...I originally signed up under another name (redox?) in january of 03, but couldnt get back into that handle for some reason. I dont think that my school computers would let me access the user page or something like that. I really dont remember. Anyway, I'm one of those guys who have been here a little longer than it seems.

[DomCasual]

When people are leaving because of it, it no longer serves that purpose.

The whole thing should be canned.
Or else, maybe people shouldn't leave because of it. If it is so arbitrary and stupid, then why are we talking about it so much?

Just ignore it. I can honestly say that when someone posts, I don't immediately look at their REP dots to see if I can take their post seriously. There are some people whose posts I always read, based on a "virtual REP" system that has formed in my subconscious mind. The opposite is true, as well. You post tripe, and eventually people ignore you.

All the REP dots in the world won't change that.

[Meck77]

Is there a way to add a feature that would send an electric shock to someone's mouse that you neg rep? If so watch out Raenos you better ground yourself.

[Rock Chalk]

BroncoMatt
Join Date: Oct 2001
Posts: 525
Rep Power: 5

AlecRaenos
Join Date: Oct 2001
Posts: 14,031
Rep Power: 4

GET RID OF THE ****ING POINTS BECAUSE IT AINT WORKING RIGHT

[Needa Pass Rush]

Or else, maybe people shouldn't leave because of it. If it is so arbitrary and stupid, then why are we talking about it so much?

Just ignore it. I can honestly say that when someone posts, I don't immediately look at their REP dots to see if I can take their post seriously. There are some people whose posts I always read, based on a "virtual REP" system that has formed in my subconscious mind. The opposite is true, as well. You post tripe, and eventually people ignore you.

All the REP dots in the world won't change that.

Virtual REP! :~ohyah!:

[Rascal]

Or else, maybe people shouldn't leave because of it. If it is so arbitrary and stupid, then why are we talking about it so much?

Because people are bitching about it.

[Bronco_Beerslug]

BroncoMatt
Join Date: Oct 2001
Posts: 525
Rep Power: 5

AlecRaenos
Join Date: Oct 2001
Posts: 14,031
Rep Power: 4

GET RID OF THE ****ING POINTS BECAUSE IT AINT WORKING RIGHT

I don't get it, what's wrong?

[Garcia Bronco]

Hey...what happened to all my rep. ROTF

[DomCasual]

Because people are b****ing about it.
But Rascal, don't you see what I mean? Therein lies the issue. It's so arbitrary and worthless, people are b****ing about it like they don't b**** about anything else.

From reading this thread, it appears that the common theme is that everyone likes the comments that go with REP. However, there are also many (myself included, in all honesty) that like the points/dots that go with it. The common complaint is what seems to some to be an unfair allotment of "REP influence." It seems to me that the best way to fix it is to do what someone suggested earlier - that is, one point per REP, regardless of who left it.

I'll be honest. The reason I like the REP system is that it provides a way for relative "newbies" (I shudder when I use that term, because I despise it) like me to feel that I am perceived with some measure of credibility for the things I post. Let's face it, I can't do anything about when I joined. But I'll tell you, I have seen stuff posted on here that went against the opinion of a "board veteran," and saw the poster immediately blasted with comments like "Go away, newb!" To which I say, "Bastards."

One point per REP. That, in my opinion, bridges as many of the gaps as possible to what everyone seems to be looking for in a REP system.

[BroncoMatt]

BroncoMatt
Join Date: Oct 2001
Posts: 525
Rep Power: 5

AlecRaenos
Join Date: Oct 2001
Posts: 14,031
Rep Power: 4

GET RID OF THE ****ING POINTS BECAUSE IT AINT WORKING RIGHT




LOL LOL rep envy

[Rascal]

I'll agree with the one point per rep regardless of who left it.

[BritBronco Maniac]

Unless you can rep yourself who cares what your rep power is?

I have been here since the beginning, and although I drop by most days during the season, I only really post around draft time.
The pace of posting has just got so frenetic these days, normally what I want to say has been said, particularly due to the time zone difference!

[Rock Chalk]

I don't get it, what's wrong?
Read the rules, then read my post. If you still dont get it, go back to school.

[Bronco_Beerslug]

Read the rules, then read my post. If you still dont get it, go back to school.
What rules?

[Rock Chalk]

What rules?
Did you even read the first post moron? Probalby not. As a union worker you probably just stood around and had someone else read it while you got paid.

[Bronco_Beerslug]

Did you even read the first post moron? Probalby not. As a union worker you probably just stood around and had someone else read it while you got paid.

You mean you don't approve of the new rep system? Have your feelings been hurt?

[epicSocialism4tw]

Did you even read the first post moron? Probalby not. As a union worker you probably just stood around and had someone else read it while you got paid.


Uh oh...not in here!!!

[Sideburn]

Ok, I read the first page, skimmed and now I'm here. I actually cared about rep at one point. It was a status symbol...kinda. Now I don't care, the only thing I care about is the comments...there was some quality stuff in there. After they all got nuked earlier this year I spun into a cycle of depression. No longer could I carry the weight that I once had. My balls had been cut. I can no longer laugh at the comments made about one of my posts. And to further destroy my self esteem, I can no longer view some of the threads that I received rep in easily. Hell, I received a couple hundred points of rep just from posting the TJ/Nba ref picture. All is lost. Why god why?!?!?!?!?!?!

edit: Has anyone tried to make this the new rep whoring thread yet? Fight the system! Down with the man! Viva la resistance!

[epicSocialism4tw]

Ok, I read the first page, skimmed and now I'm here. I actually cared about rep at one point. It was a status symbol...kinda. Now I don't care, the only thing I care about is the comments...there was some quality stuff in there. After they all got nuked earlier this year I spun into a cycle of depression. No longer could I carry the weight that I once had. My balls had been cut. I can no longer laugh at the comments made about one of my posts. And to further destroy my self esteem, I can no longer view some of the threads that I received rep in easily. Hell, I received a couple hundred points of rep just from posting the TJ/Nba ref picture. All is lost. Why god why?!?!?!?!?!?!

edit: Has anyone tried to make this the new rep whoring thread yet? Fight the system! Down with the man! Viva la resistance!


Oh Gosh! That's funny. :)

[DBroncos4life]

I'm not going to lie I don't like the new system, but its not the reason I won't post that often here anymore. I don't agree that someone should have more rep power because they joined before other posters though. Alec is right there. People should have more rep power because they post better then the next guy.

[Bronco_Beerslug]

Ok, I read the first page, skimmed and now I'm here. I actually cared about rep at one point. It was a status symbol...kinda. Now I don't care, the only thing I care about is the comments...there was some quality stuff in there. After they all got nuked earlier this year I spun into a cycle of depression. No longer could I carry the weight that I once had. My balls had been cut. I can no longer laugh at the comments made about one of my posts. And to further destroy my self esteem, I can no longer view some of the threads that I received rep in easily. Hell, I received a couple hundred points of rep just from posting the TJ/Nba ref picture. All is lost. Why god why?!?!?!?!?!?!

edit: Has anyone tried to make this the new rep whoring thread yet? Fight the system! Down with the man! Viva la resistance!
LOL
It's amazing you're still alive :)
If you had a place I could donate money and blood for you I would.

[Arkie]

BroncoMatt
Join Date: Oct 2001
Posts: 525
Rep Power: 5

AlecRaenos
Join Date: Oct 2001
Posts: 14,031
Rep Power: 4

GET RID OF THE ****ING POINTS BECAUSE IT AINT WORKING RIGHT

It's one point for every 365 days. I'm guessing you joined on Oct 29, 30, or 31. Right?

[BroncoMatt]

Ok, I read the first page, skimmed and now I'm here. I actually cared about rep at one point. It was a status symbol...kinda. Now I don't care, the only thing I care about is the comments...there was some quality stuff in there. After they all got nuked earlier this year I spun into a cycle of depression. No longer could I carry the weight that I once had. My balls had been cut. I can no longer laugh at the comments made about one of my posts. And to further destroy my self esteem, I can no longer view some of the threads that I received rep in easily. Hell, I received a couple hundred points of rep just from posting the TJ/Nba ref picture. All is lost. Why god why?!?!?!?!?!?!

edit: Has anyone tried to make this the new rep whoring thread yet? Fight the system! Down with the man! Viva la resistance!


I repped a page and a half of posters earlier, yours is on the way!

[BroncoMatt]

just repped sideburn and everyone after him

[Sideburn]

Har bloody brilliant! har!

[Broncoman13]

Screw, from now on, the only good rep is bad rep!!! If you get a positive rep from me you're Fing up. Jack got the first one...who's next!!! The more orange bars you have the shiatier poster you've become. Slap is the worst, but we all knew that! ;D Ha! Who's next MFers..... down with Rep, down with the Mane. Next thing you know we're going to have messed up join dates and people having kiniption (or however you spell that word) fits over this Rep thing.


BTW, what the hell is a rep whore thread. Give me an example of some that were around???

[Dagmar]

TJ, I bet you miss this thread in it's infancy when your only worry was a stupid drunk Scotsman posting idiocy...

[Iowanian]

rep is funny. i've never seen anything on a board, put more sand, in more vaginas.

Since the reset, for example...I have 25 from NeedPASSRUSH..which means he's dropped at least 250? to do that in the same time frame? There are others...like Chump bailey and wabbit, spiduhr...

I could give a sh!t less about rep, personally...but its funny to see how many "grown Men" 1 black dot can turn into sniveling biatches.

[Hogan11]

Slap, I wouldn't leave the board over something like this, it's simply not worth it.

I haven't supported the rep system since it was reset and I don't intend to....if the changes bother you, then boycott it. I see the system as very flawed, so I don't play the game. I haven't given out any rep at all since it was reset, even though I've received it (that's up to others afterall)...it's nothing personal, it's just something I'm not willing to support any longer.......so I don't.

If I support the take or not, I now say so in the thread it was posted in....no where else. Why not do the same if this really bothers you to the point where you're willing to leave the board over it?

[Sideburn]

Screw, from now on, the only good rep is bad rep!!! If you get a positive rep from me you're Fing up. Jack got the first one...who's next!!! The more orange bars you have the shiatier poster you've become. Slap is the worst, but we all knew that! ;D Ha! Who's next MFers..... down with Rep, down with the Mane. Next thing you know we're going to have messed up join dates and people having kiniption (or however you spell that word) fits over this Rep thing.


BTW, what the hell is a rep whore thread. Give me an example of some that were around???
It is what it is. You post in the rep whore thread, rep "sluts" dish out rep. It was a thing of beauty for the first week. Then it lost it's meaning. Man there was some good stuff in that thread too. I think we spent 3 days on obscure 80's song lyrics.

[B-Love]

I admit I have let rep influence how I post and what topics I post about. I'm not a top guy here, but I would never leave the board because of it. Leaving the board over rep is real lame.

I will always visit this board to find out the pulse of Broncomania, and to catch up with some old posters. I won't let lack of rep bother me.

However, part of the reason I discontinued doing the "Game In History Reports" were due to a lack of interest there seemed to be for them, on the board. I would take almost three hours to type something that I thought was a good timepiece and read, and it would get very little response in its thread. There were also some weeks I wouldn't get one single rep point for it. Nada one, even after some effort and time on my part.

But someone else would come along and photoshop a picture and the subsequent thread would read "rep', "lmao rep", "rep for you", "You must spread more around before", etc.

At that point of continued reinforcement, you know the priorities of the posters and what they like, and doing a 2-3 hour article weekly was not worth it. I didn't get angry or disappointed at all. Just stopped doing it. Actually, my wife took ill as well which made it even harder to do so...........

But I had to evaluate whether or not to do this 2-3 hour project, or just spend 2-3 more hours perusing boards for fun. The fun won out.

There are also numerous types of topics I stopped posting about because over time you can see through rep, where your opinion gets respect and apparently where it does not.

So for me, I rail on about my usual topics (history, old school, tailgates, game strategy) and issues and have found a very comfortable place here. I enjoy the hell out of the board and hope it continues indefinately.

And I get a great education in topics that I do not have time to know that much about (college football, the draft, etc.).

Rep is and will only ever be directionally correct at best, and that may be a stretch.

But this board is great!

[Needa Pass Rush]

rep is funny. i've never seen anything on a board, put more sand, in more vaginas.

Since the reset, for example...I have 25 from NeedPASSRUSH..which means he's dropped at least 250? to do that in the same time frame? There are others...like Chump bailey and wabbit, spiduhr...

I could give a sh!t less about rep, personally...but its funny to see how many "grown Men" 1 black dot can turn into sniveling biatches.

Make that 26. thwack

[Meck77]

Messageboard suicide is an interesting phenomena. I've been close myself but somehow I've never been able to pull the trigger and I haven't seen too many successful at it either. A good messageboard is like a ice cold beer in a parking lot before a game. You can't just give that up.

[ludo21]

LOL

Im still in teh infancy of being an OMer but a lot of people here are making wayyyyyyy to big a deal of rep. Maybe if you lost money for being neg rep'ed or gained some money for getting rep, then maybe, just maybe it would be worth a 4 page discussion.

[Taco John]

For the record, the registration dates are about 90% correct. When we moved from YaBB to vBulletin, it cleared these dates on all the posters. When that happened, I went through by hand and updated all of the registration dates for posters with over 20 posts. It was something like 200 registration dates I updates. Anyone under 20 posts was left with the registration date that reflected the move date of the forum.

[Rock Chalk]

You mean you don't approve of the new rep system? Have your feelings been hurt?
No Im still near the top of the rep list even after TJ took away the rep whore thread (so that just goes to show you people love me and I dont have to whore myself out) so my feelings on the matter aren't hurt at all. In fact, I could care less how much my rep stick weighs, so long as I am at the top with my witty humor, backhanded jabs, hit and run tactics and general loveable self. For instance, the union potshot at you was not really serious, but designed solely for a laugh for those that might think it was funny. I certainly did and while you might not have thought it was very funny, I did get two reps from the post so someone did.

What bother's me is that according to the system, I should have more rep power than BroncoMatt or at least the same amount as we have BOTH been here the same amount of time, I have way more rep and way more posts.

The rules are broken.

Its why I suggest getting rid of the point system and leave rep as a "comment" box, for people who approve/disapprove but don't necessarily want to write a post about it.

This way no one gets mad because of rep power, no one is trying to impress anyone else based on getting rep points and everyone goes back to posting like it was before the rep feature was added.

[Rock Chalk]

It's one point for every 365 days. I'm guessing you joined on Oct 29, 30, or 31. Right?
Beginning of the month.

[Rascal]

So who wants to start a poll on whether rep should be canned or not?

Where is that worthless bastard Waffle when you need him.

[Circle Orange]

Since I joined late I'm punished and not given as much rep as some others around here?

Well I think that's ****...I mean come on look at Pez. His posts suck ass and yet he is rewarded for it.

And especially Spider!! Truck drivers, especially those from Wyoming, who wear pink shirts should not be given a keyboard.

And don't even get me started on that dirty white boy shack.

Worst SYSTEM EVER!!!

That's just BS...I'm gone.

I've got an idea on the 'blob' system. See, you should do it like in school when you get the foil stars for different grades.

Gold A rep
Silver B rep
Red C rep
Green D rep
Blue F rep (at this point you stink)

The blobs should match these colors. Or especially good rep should get a GIANT blob, about an inch around. :puff:



Spider wears pink shirts? No one told me! :blossom:

[RhymesayersDU]

I could care less how much my rep stick weighs, so long as I am at the top with my witty humor, backhanded jabs, hit and run tactics and general loveable self.

rofl

[Rascal]

Spider wears pink shirts? No one told me! :blossom:

Yeah there is a picture floating around of him in a pink shirt.

He contents that since it's striped it doesn't really count but we know better.

:rainbow:

[Crushaholic]

I sort of understand people getting up in arms over rep. The way it's structured, it IS a competition. Some people are just competitive in nature. If there was a game of tiddlywinks, they would want to win. That's just the way they are and they won't change. I don't know how difficult it would be to eliminate the points altogether and just make it a comments box. There are good posts that I want to applaud and there are bad posts where I want to tell them they suck. Eliminating the points would solve this problem, IMO.

[Meck77]

I'm just glad there is an orangemane........

[DomCasual]

For the record, the registration dates are about 90% correct. When we moved from YaBB to vBulletin, it cleared these dates on all the posters. When that happened, I went through by hand and updated all of the registration dates for posters with over 20 posts. It was something like 200 registration dates I updates. Anyone under 20 posts was left with the registration date that reflected the move date of the forum.
Could you go back and correct mine? I joined shortly after the conflict in Viet Nam.

[Circle Orange]

No doubt then, it's a 'manly' pink...you know, the type that's pale or grayed down so it doesn't scream PINK!!! There was a guy at my job who wore bright pink shirts...but being 6'3" and about three spins kept the comments to a minimum...not like the poor sap below...

[Taco John]

Beginning of the month.



Actually, no. You're registration date is listed as October 29. You get your rep point the day after tomorrow.

[DomCasual]

Actually, no. You're registration date is listed as October 29. You get your rep point the day after tomorrow.
SO HOLD YOUR FRIGGEN WATER, YOU BASTARD!

After Sunday, we can start the countdown. Just 337 days until Alec starts to b**** about REP again! :poke:

And to any or all of the moderators: thanks for not making "bastard" one of the words that gets replaced by *'s.

[Bronco_Beerslug]

No Im still near the top of the rep list even after TJ took away the rep whore thread (so that just goes to show you people love me and I dont have to whore myself out) so my feelings on the matter aren't hurt at all. In fact, I could care less how much my rep stick weighs, so long as I am at the top with my witty humor, backhanded jabs, hit and run tactics and general loveable self. For instance, the union potshot at you was not really serious, but designed solely for a laugh for those that might think it was funny. I certainly did and while you might not have thought it was very funny, I did get two reps from the post so someone did.

What bother's me is that according to the system, I should have more rep power than BroncoMatt or at least the same amount as we have BOTH been here the same amount of time, I have way more rep and way more posts.

The rules are broken.

Its why I suggest getting rid of the point system and leave rep as a "comment" box, for people who approve/disapprove but don't necessarily want to write a post about it.

This way no one gets mad because of rep power, no one is trying to impress anyone else based on getting rep points and everyone goes back to posting like it was before the rep feature was added.
Really? Quite the long winded rant for "I could care less how much my rep stick weighs" type of person. Why not be truthful and just admit you're a rep whore :)

[Arkie]

I'm just glad there is an orangemane........

rep!

[Taco John]

So can someone explain to me why a person shouldn't gain an extra point of influence after being here for a year? I've given my reasoning on why I feel that a person here for a year should get an extra point of influence. I don't see why a person who has been here for four years, even if only reading, shouldn't have more base influence than a person that has been here for only a year. That said, the person who has been here for only a year but regularly posts good stuff will have an opportunity to make up any gap by posting good takes.

[Hotrod]

So can someone explain to me why a person shouldn't gain an extra point of influence after being here for a year? I've given my reasoning on why I feel that a person here for a year should get an extra point of influence. I don't see why a person who has been here for four years, even if only reading, shouldn't have more influence than a person that has been here for only a year. That said, the person who has been here for only a year but regularly posts good stuff will have an opportunity to make up any gap by posting good takes.

I think the problem is your trying to please a bunch of damn kids. You'll never make everyone happy. Like JPEZ always says "Its like trying to heard cats"

[Bronco LB 59]

However, part of the reason I discontinued doing the "Game In History Reports" were due to a lack of interest there seemed to be for them, on the board. I would take almost three hours to type something that I thought was a good timepiece and read, and it would get very little response in its thread. There were also some weeks I wouldn't get one single rep point for it. Nada one, even after some effort and time on my part.

B-Love

Please bring back the "Game in History" reports. I miss them.

I am proclaiming B-Love, "the Official Orange Mane historian". Give him a front page column, Taco.

[Rascal]

We have explained it TJ.

Why should they have more influence if only reading instead of actively participating? Someone joins in 2001 but has only posted several comments and hasn't posted anything since or even reading for that matter but they have more influence then somebody who joined in 2003 who participates on a frequent basis? Sorry but that's crap. How could they have more influence when their participation is never felt?

If you truly want a fair system it should be 1 point per rep no matter who gives it.

[Pezman]

Sigh... can we get back to football now?

[ludo21]

Sigh... can we get back to football now?


:alghh: i agree, but sadly, having rep is more important.

[Traveler]

So who wants to start a poll on whether rep should be canned or not?

I was going to suggest the same thing. My vote would be to scrap the whole thing or just make it so we can leave personal comments to individual(s).

One less problem for TJ and the mods to monitor.

[Taco John]

We have explained it TJ.

Why should they have more influence if only reading instead of actively participating? Someone joins in 2001 but has only posted several comments and hasn't posted anything since or even reading for that matter but they have more influence then somebody who joined in 2003 who participates on a frequent basis? Sorry but that's crap. How could they have more influence when their participation is never felt?

If you truly want a fair system it should be 1 point per rep no matter who gives it.



Actually, someone who is actively participating has more opportunity to build their rep than someone who isn't. But the someone who isn't making that many posts, but has called the OrangeMane their online home regardless, in my opinion, should have an opportunity to make their rep count too, but just at a "base" level.

[Tredici]

So can someone explain to me why a person shouldn't gain an extra point of influence after being here for a year? I've given my reasoning on why I feel that a person here for a year should get an extra point of influence. I don't see why a person who has been here for four years, even if only reading, shouldn't have more base influence than a person that has been here for only a year. That said, the person who has been here for only a year but regularly posts good stuff will have an opportunity to make up any gap by posting good takes.

In reading through this thread it seems most posters are more interested in reading the comment box than the point total. Therefore to attempt to weight the point structure in any manner will be futile and controversial.

Why do we rep?

For being extremely clever and having a birthday.
For having a family event - happy or sad.
For being a newbie.
For posting a photoshop skill.
For posting boobies.
For having the correct sense of humor.
For having a moment of madness.
For having a moment of euphoria.
For finding an article and linking it.
For being a troll and posting something Bronco positive.
Because one of the personalities we don't like got slammed. (Come on folks, how much I hate him/her rep have YOU dished out?)
Because we want to give out 9 more so we can get back to our "friends".

The last thing to get repped is a good sports take. Because 50% of the population will disagree with it, no matter how brilliant.

Does someone who lurks bring more to the table than Bang?

There is no way to weight for content. Longevity doesn't mean much to me. I was here prior to the Tredici name. Others probably were too. Longevity means no matter who comes in with solid contributions they can never "catch up". So why do we all rep newbies and encourage their participation if the join date is more important than the quality of the poster?

If this is a community than everyone's participation should be celebrated equally. One rep point for everyone or Ten rep points for everyone. Anything else is a practice of some form of exclusionary tactic. Whether that is based on intention or perception makes no difference.

[B-Love]

B-Love

Please bring back the "Game in History" reports. I miss them.

I am proclaiming B-Love, "the Official Orange Mane historian". Give him a front page column, Taco.

Thanks much LB, but that's not the right way. It had a small following of a few folks that enjoyed it but not enought to warrant the effort.

Taco's been very generous in extending invites to do something before, including front page articles.

I'd rather find a modern way to put game highlights from a previous games to show the great history of various matchups. But then you're running into legal issues with re-broadcasts, etc.

There is a way to make team history a real big part of this site, but we have not figured that out yet.

[Rock Chalk]

Actually, no. You're registration date is listed as October 29. You get your rep point the day after tomorrow.
Hmm, I just remember it was right before the KC @ Denver game that year. So whenever that was.

[epicSocialism4tw]

Actually, someone who is actively participating has more opportunity to build their rep than someone who isn't. But the someone who isn't making that many posts, but has called the OrangeMane their online home regardless, in my opinion, should have an opportunity to make their rep count too, but just at a "base" level.


I think that you have a good idea with that. Roll with that. It makes sense. You cant please everyone.

You know all of those guys that strive to relieve the rep jones will do whatever they can to get it anyway. Their numbers will eventually go up and they can haunt the board with their unequalled coolness like they have in the past.::)

[Rascal]

In reading through this thread it seems most posters are more interested in reading the comment box than the point total. Therefore to attempt to weight the point structure in any manner will be futile and controversial.

Why do we rep?

For being extremely clever and having a birthday.
For having a family event - happy or sad.
For being a newbie.
For posting a photoshop skill.
For posting boobies.
For having the correct sense of humor.
For having a moment of madness.
For having a moment of euphoria.
For finding an article and linking it.
For being a troll and posting something Bronco positive.
Because one of the personalities we don't like got slammed. (Come on folks, how much I hate him/her rep have YOU dished out?)
Because we want to give out 9 more so we can get back to our "friends".

The last thing to get repped is a good sports take. Because 50% of the population will disagree with it, no matter how brilliant.

Does someone who lurks bring more to the table than Bang?

There is no way to weight for content. Longevity doesn't mean much to me. I was here prior to the Tredici name. Others probably were too. Longevity means no matter who comes in with solid contributions they can never "catch up". So why do we all rep newbies and encourage their participation if the join date is more important than the quality of the poster?

If this is a community than everyone's participation should be celebrated equally. One rep point for everyone or Ten rep points for everyone. Anything else is a practice of some form of exclusionary tactic. Whether that is based on intention or perception makes no difference.

And that is why you are one of the most respected posters on this board no matter what your rep level is.

[Traveler]

In reading through this thread it seems most posters are more interested in reading the comment box than the point total. Therefore to attempt to weight the point structure in any manner will be futile and controversial.

Why do we rep?

For being extremely clever and having a birthday.
For having a family event - happy or sad.
For being a newbie.
For posting a photoshop skill.
For posting boobies.
For having the correct sense of humor.
For having a moment of madness.
For having a moment of euphoria.
For finding an article and linking it.
For being a troll and posting something Bronco positive.
Because one of the personalities we don't like got slammed. (Come on folks, how much I hate him/her rep have YOU dished out?)
Because we want to give out 9 more so we can get back to our "friends".

The last thing to get repped is a good sports take. Because 50% of the population will disagree with it, no matter how brilliant.

Does someone who lurks bring more to the table than Bang?

There is no way to weight for content. Longevity doesn't mean much to me. I was here prior to the Tredici name. Others probably were too. Longevity means no matter who comes in with solid contributions they can never "catch up". So why do we all rep newbies and encourage their participation if the join date is more important than the quality of the poster?

If this is a community than everyone's participation should be celebrated equally. One rep point for everyone or Ten rep points for everyone. Anything else is a practice of some form of exclusionary tactic. Whether that is based on intention or perception makes no difference.

:thumbs:

[Dagmar]

There's an awful lot of spitting the pacifier over this whole "rep" thing.

"If other people don't like you how do you know whether or not to like yourself?!"

Come on people now
Smile on your brother
Everybody get together
Try to love one another
Right now

Freakin' hippies.

Cartman: I hate hippies! I mean, the way they always talk about "protectin' the earth" and then drive around in cars that get poor gas mileage and wear those stupid bracelets - I hate 'em! I wanna kick 'em in the nuts!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v216/stupid__child2/Icons/southpark_cartmankillinghip.gif

We all love the Broncos!
Lets all have a bevvy and calm down.
:alky:

What's your poison?
I'm buying a Jameson for myself, can I get anyone anything?

[BroncoMatt]

In reading through this thread it seems most posters are more interested in reading the comment box than the point total. Therefore to attempt to weight the point structure in any manner will be futile and controversial.

Why do we rep?

For being extremely clever and having a birthday.
For having a family event - happy or sad.
For being a newbie.
For posting a photoshop skill.
For posting boobies.
For having the correct sense of humor.
For having a moment of madness.
For having a moment of euphoria.
For finding an article and linking it.
For being a troll and posting something Bronco positive.
Because one of the personalities we don't like got slammed. (Come on folks, how much I hate him/her rep have YOU dished out?)
Because we want to give out 9 more so we can get back to our "friends".

The last thing to get repped is a good sports take. Because 50% of the population will disagree with it, no matter how brilliant.

Does someone who lurks bring more to the table than Bang?

There is no way to weight for content. Longevity doesn't mean much to me. I was here prior to the Tredici name. Others probably were too. Longevity means no matter who comes in with solid contributions they can never "catch up". So why do we all rep newbies and encourage their participation if the join date is more important than the quality of the poster?

If this is a community than everyone's participation should be celebrated equally. One rep point for everyone or Ten rep points for everyone. Anything else is a practice of some form of exclusionary tactic. Whether that is based on intention or perception makes no difference.

my birthday was last week, nobody repped me:'(

[PatsWin2002]

TJ - at CP I've seen that some people have Rep turned off....is that an option on the user's control panel? And does that prevent the person from getting the comments?

Just wondering.

[Sideburn]

Just to put things in perspective. I don't think I've ever been repped for a football take. Every time it's because I'm just so damn cool, or I made a funny, or I was one of the 9 to get back to the friends. Muahahahahahahaa...it didn't matter, it made me feel popular!

[Atlas]

Just to play devils advocate. Mock has 43,000 posts to Bronco Yodas 1,200 Mock joined before Yoda and has more rep but yet the rep power between the two is even.

There is no perfect system and it really doesn't matter it's all good!!!

[Iowanian]

Make that 26. thwack

Keep a tight hold on my pocket, mah b@tch.

[Rock Chalk]

I'll smoke a bowl to the turn off the rep feature they have at CP.

[Iowanian]

Turning it off at CP, only means it doesn't show.

I have my "turned off" but can still give and recieve.

Its just my modesty though, if I whipped it out, it'd be like the final scene of Boogie Nights. I'd never get any posting done, with people offering $10 to see it.

[PatsWin2002]

I'll smoke a bowl to the turn off the rep feature they have at CP.

You were gonna do that anyway. Nnyah!


And Iowanian.....Johnnie Wadd in disguise.

[Tredici]

Turning it off at CP, only means it doesn't show.

I have my "turned off" but can still give and recieve.

Its just my modesty though, if I whipped it out, it'd be like the final scene of Boogie Nights. I'd never get any posting done, with people offering $10 to see it.

Most people liked to be turned on during giving and receiving. Just another reason to sadly shake your head for the misguided KC fans....

[DomCasual]

my birthday was last week, nobody repped me:'(
It's in the OrangeMane bylaws. Only non-bastard children get rep on their birthdays.

I'm just the messenger. Remember that.

[DomCasual]

Turning it off at CP, only means it doesn't show.

I have my "turned off" but can still give and recieve.

Its just my modesty though, if I whipped it out, it'd be like the final scene of Boogie Nights. I'd never get any posting done, with people offering $10 to see it.
That was a prosthetic, plastic-rep boy.

[PatsWin2002]

Most people liked to be turned on during giving and receiving. Just another reason to sadly shake your head for the misguided KC fans....

Hey Tred, I'll rep you for hitting 7,000 posts.....when is that gonna be anyway?

Knowitall

[Taco John]

Longevity means no matter who comes in with solid contributions they can never "catch up".

Very good post Tredici, with very good points, but I wanted to isolate this one, for a couple of reasons.

The first of them being that eventually what happens with rep is that inflation takes over and what used to be worth 5 rep points today is worth 10 rep points in the future. When that happens, a new comer ends up climbing the rep ladder quicker than the people who have been here longer, and before long they have just as much influence as someone who has been here for 5 years. So how is that fair to the person who has been here for five years that the person who has been here for one suddenly has as much influence?

The second thing is, I've looked at some of the profiles, and I haven't yet seen the blatantly unfair distribution of rep to anyone yet. Who is getting completely ripped off in this system? I'd bet in most cases, it's something that could easily be rectified.

I believe it should be hard for a newcomer to catch up with someone who has been here for a longer period of time and established their reputation here. Not impossible, but hard.

This is all still open for discussion...

[TheDave]

Alright i just rep'd everyone on the last 2 pages... I'll get to the others later

[Rock Chalk]

You were gonna do that anyway. Nnyah!

You make a valid point.

[Hotrod]

I believe it should be hard for a newcomer to catch up with someone who has been here for a longer period of time and established their reputation here. Not impossible, but hard.

...

Just fess Up TJ you were all pissy because I was ahead of you on the Rep list and devised this evil plan to jump ahead of me on the all important Rep list.

[Rascal]

Very good post Tredici, with very good points, but I wanted to isolate this one, for a couple of reasons.

The first of them being that eventually what happens with rep is that inflation takes over and what used to be worth 5 rep points today is worth 10 rep points in the future. When that happens, a new comer ends up climbing the rep ladder quicker than the people who have been here longer, and before long they have just as much influence as someone who has been here for 5 years. So how is that fair to the person who has been here for five years that the person who has been here for one suddenly has as much influence?

The second thing is, I've looked at some of the profiles, and I haven't yet seen the blatantly unfair distribution of rep to anyone yet. Who is getting completely ripped off in this system? I'd bet in most cases, it's something that could easily be rectified.

I believe it should be hard for a newcomer to catch up with someone who has been here for a longer period of time and established their reputation here. Not impossible, but hard.

This is all still open for discussion...

If you truly want to be fair all non-bronco fans should have 0 influence.

[Bronco_Beerslug]

If you truly want to be fair all non-bronco fans should have 0 influence.

LOL
How would you shake them out, make them commit at signup?

[Taco John]

Just fess Up TJ you were all pissy because I was ahead of you on the Rep list and devised this evil plan to jump ahead of me on the all important Rep list.


"like a Rolling Stone, I've got you under my thumb..." :giggle:


/It's from a rap song...

[Taco John]

If you truly want to be fair all non-bronco fans should have 0 influence.



Actually, the rep system itself will take care of that. Not too many rival fans around here have much influence.

[Rascal]

LOL
How would you shake them out, make them commit at signup?

Each newbie has a 1 month grace period to determine allegiance. After that it's on their pernament record.

That way we can also determine who is jumping on the bandwagon after we win the SB this year.

[Mile High Shack]

I say we make this a rep whore thread

[TheDave]

alright... I've finished repping this whole thread...

[BroncoMatt]

I say we make this a rep whore thread

rep

[Rascal]

alright... I've finished repping this whole thread...

no you didn't you cheap bastard!!

[BroncoMatt]

rep for the dave too even though he is a liar and hasn't repped this thread but he is an old school rep whore thread whore so there it is

[Rascal]

TJ is going to kick some ass shortly.

[TheDave]

I might have to start a "I hate Jake" thread to keep from getting banned...

[BroncoMatt]

Maybe since people are upset about my low post total I'll start posting about my cat and just go after previous posts and put smileys. Number of posts does not necesarily show contributions to the board.

[Hotrod]

For the Rep junkies this just in BREAKING NEWS..............The Broncos play the Egirls this weekend. For more information please see the main forum.

[TheDave]

For the Rep junkies this just in BREAKING NEWS..............The Broncos play the Egirls this weekend. For more information please see the main forum.

This is the main forum...or is it ???

[Taco John]

Maybe since people are upset about my low post total I'll start posting about my cat and just go after previous posts and put smileys. Number of posts does not necesarily show contributions to the board.



Number of posts weighs in exactly zero in the rep equation. The only two factors that alter it currently are Length of Time you've been a registered member of the community, and amount of reps you've been given.

[Hotrod]

This is the main forum...or is it ???

I thought the main forum had rep whore/Survivor/G. Bush is satin threads. Ha! No wonder Im so confused.

[Meck77]

Not sure who said it early but a poll sounds like a good idea to me. Only problem with that is does a newer posters vote count the same as a member with an earlier registration date. *sigh*

Perhaps we could setup a boxing match at the tailgate? Those in favor of keeping the system the way it is vs the members who think registration date doesn't matter?

Where the hell are the trolls? We need somebody to pick on around here besides ourselves.

[TheDave]

I thought the main forum had rep whore/Survivor/G. Bush is satin threads. Ha! No wonder Im so confused.

Rep!!! Ha!

[Billy Clyde Puckett]

Dave - Your students are playing Doom while you are screwing around on the Mane :)

[BroncoMatt]

Number of posts weighs in exactly zero in the rep equation. The only two factors that alter it currently are Length of Time you've been a registered member of the community, and amount of reps you've been given.

I understand that TJ, my number of posts has become a point of contention around here regarding my rep power 5. I think longevity should be a factor but not the only one, you have done a fair job in that respect. Alot of these people complaining would be angry if a newbie came in and got a higher level then them quickly. Do what you do, you've made this place the best on the net.

[Taco John]

a poll will eventually follow... Discussion first.

[Meck77]

I just had an idea. I'm reading that people like the comments for rep from the individual givng the comment. Why not just keep it at that and nothing more. It seems to be the ranking of the rep list that creates the rep whoring.

No ranking of rep no rep whoring.......Just good ole fashion rep from one member to another for a good post or a neg rep for a post they don't agree with.

While we are at it........I need to figure out a way to distinguish members as they come into town for the tailgates. We've tried name tags they don't work. They fall off and we just can't keep up with all the people. We did orange beeds last home game. That worked but we gave out more than we got back. We need something members can wear ( a pin, a hat, a shirt) something that says (I'm a member and not just someone off the street mooching beers)...

I know I know...this is a topic for another thread but since we are having this great democratic moment I thought I would chime in and atleast plant the seed for a future discussion. May not sound important but we are having a hard time keeping the peace in and around the bus sometimes.

[Taco John]

Whatever we decide, it will be set in stone. It will be the last time I touch the rep system for whatever reason... No reset at the begining of the season... None of it. Just whatever we decide going forward...

[Hotrod]

a poll will eventually follow... Discussion first.

Do us old timers get more then one vote. What about the trolls do they event get a vote.

Also my vote can be bought for the right about of 'rep bribe'

[Hotrod]

I just had an idea. I'm reading that people like the comments for rep from the individual givng the comment. Why not just keep it at that and nothing more. It seems to be the ranking of the rep list that creates the rep whoring.

No ranking of rep no rep whoring.......Just good ole fashion rep from one member to another for a good post or a neg rep for a post the don't agree with.

Thats a possible solution but I would like to think when I lowwer the Neg rep hammer they victum feels some degree of pain.

[Sideburn]

Whatever we decide, it will be set in stone. It will be the last time I touch the rep system for whatever reason... No reset at the begining of the season... None of it. Just whatever we decide going forward...
I vote for "all your base belong to me" A select few will get that


Edit: Oh yeah, can someone send me some rep...I'd prefer someone with powah. I need 4 points for my second dot. Listen to me, begging for a second dot. Back in the day I had 10 dots...now It's just a lonely single dot...he needs a friend..he's lonely...think of the dots...for god's sake, think of the dots!

[Crushaholic]

Most people liked to be turned on during giving and receiving. Just another reason to sadly shake your head for the misguided KC fans....

Freakin' BRILLIANT! LOL

[Hotrod]

You know me TJ never one to muddy the waters but maybe we can tie this whole rep thing in with the vbookie system.


Ha! sorry Ill shut up now and wait for the poll.

[Sideburn]

You know me TJ never one to muddy the waters but maybe we can tie this whole rep thing in with the vbookie system.


Ha! sorry Ill shut up now and wait for the poll.
I'll sell my rep for vCrack again.

[RhymesayersDU]

I vote for "all your base belong to me" A select few will get that


Edit: Oh yeah, can someone send me some rep...I'd prefer someone with powah. I need 4 points for my second dot. Listen to me, begging for a second dot. Back in the day I had 10 dots...now It's just a lonely single dot...he needs a friend..he's lonely...think of the dots...for god's sake, think of the dots!
This is why nobody reps your football takes. We waste our sideburn rep on random references!

Seriously, any time an "all your base is belong to me" reference appears on the board, it's automatic rep from me.

[Sideburn]

This is why nobody reps your football takes. We waste our sideburn rep on random references!

Seriously, any time an "all your base is belong to me" reference appears on the board, it's automatic rep from me.
select few:thumbsup:

[Tredici]

Hey Tred, I'll rep you for hitting 7,000 posts.....when is that gonna be anyway?

Knowitall

I dunno. TJ will probably re-set the board and we'll do a time warp. Then I'll lose some of my fabulous posts that gathered phenomenal rep.

It's always uphill around here.

[RhymesayersDU]

select few:thumbsup:
Just know that next time you have a solid football take, I'll be getting that damned "Spread it around" message. then I'm going to senselessly rep other people so I can rep you again.

In conclusion, Sideburn and his base are bringing down the forum. ;)

[Sideburn]

Just know that next time you have a solid football take, I'll be getting that damned "Spread it around" message. then I'm going to senselessly rep other people so I can rep you again.

In conclusion, Sideburn and his base are bringing down the forum. ;)
It's true. Bah, I wish I could stay and rep whore it up but I need to get ready. I'm doing the color for a HS football game tonight. Too bad the teams suck.

[Sideburn]

I dunno. TJ will probably re-set the board and we'll do a time warp. Then I'll lose some of my fabulous posts that gathered phenomenal rep.

It's always uphill around here.
Indeed, I hit 3k post twice.

[Rock Chalk]

Not sure who said it early but a poll sounds like a good idea to me. Only problem with that is does a newer posters vote count the same as a member with an earlier registration date. *sigh*

Perhaps we could setup a boxing match at the tailgate? Those in favor of keeping the system the way it is vs the members who think registration date doesn't matter?

Where the hell are the trolls? We need somebody to pick on around here besides ourselves.
This is America. One person one vote, each vote counts the same.

Unless you are a union worker in which case your crew gets one vote since only one of you works. ;D

[RhymesayersDU]

This is America. One person one vote, each vote counts the same.

Unless you are a union worker in which case your crew gets one vote since only one of you works. ;D
And not only that, but you'll get a paid day off to go vote.

[Hogan11]

Whatever we decide, it will be set in stone. It will be the last time I touch the rep system for whatever reason... No reset at the begining of the season... None of it. Just whatever we decide going forward...

Bet you regret touching it in the first place now, don't cha?

[Bronco_Beerslug]

This is America. One person one vote, each vote counts the same.

Unless you are a union worker in which case your crew gets one vote since only one of you works. ;D
And not only that, you get $2 an hour vacation pay, paid annuity, paid pension, paid medical, dental, vision, safe working conditions, OT after 8, double time on Sundays and holidays and all because "This is America". :strong:

[Hogan11]

And not only that, you get $2 an hour vacation pay, paid annuity, paid pension, paid medical, dental, vision, safe working conditions, OT after 8, double time on Sundays and holidays and all because "This is America". :strong:

I've never understood union bashing...I never really appreciated the union thing till I worked in a couple of non-union sweat shops in the southeast a few years ago....That'll make you a believer real quick, trust me.

[Bronco_Beerslug]

I've never understood union bashing...I never really appreciated the union thing till I worked in a couple of non-union sweat shops in the southeast a few years ago....That'll make you a believer real quick, trust me.
Just like all companies are NOT same nor are the unions.
But Alec knows what they ALL are about thus is ranting.

[PatsWin2002]

I dunno. TJ will probably re-set the board and we'll do a time warp. Then I'll lose some of my fabulous posts that gathered phenomenal rep.

It's always uphill around here.


Then let's send TJ camping so we can coast for a while! :)

I don't know about uphill so much as it being the Ministry of Silly Walks.

[Meck77]

Anybody notice that this place just isn't the cheerful little place we all like after a loss?

Damn we Broncos fans are a tough crowd.

[Clockwork Orange]

Anybody notice that this place just isn't the cheerful little place we all like after a loss?

Damn we Broncos fans are a tough crowd.

This place isn't exactly overflowing with joy after a win either. Half the threads started are by people who are happy about the win. The rest are people complaining that the win wasn't impressive enough, pointing out stats that show how fortunate the Broncos were to win the game and obligatory pro & anti Plummer threads.

[Broncoman13]

SO HOLD YOUR FRIGGEN WATER, YOU BASTARD!

After Sunday, we can start the countdown. Just 337 days until Alec starts to b**** about REP again! :poke:

And to any or all of the moderators: thanks for not making "bastard" one of the words that gets replaced by *'s.


Try telling someone to B-L-O-W you... you'll get a kick out of that one!!!

[Meck77]

This place isn't exactly overflowing with joy after a win either. Half the threads started are by people who are happy about the win. The rest are people complaining that the win wasn't impressive enough, pointing out stats that show how fortunate the Broncos were to win the game and obligatory pro & anti Plummer threads.


It's just a guess but those threads probably come from fans that didn't watch all the superbowl losses.~Popps~ Again just a guess. There is a large group of post back to back superbowl fans that expect the Broncos to win the superbowl every year. It just isn't going to happen.

[Taco John]

Bet you regret touching it in the first place now, don't cha?


Like the dickens...

/don't really know what that means, but the in-laws say it all the time.

[BritBronco Maniac]

Surely an English expression, but beats me too!

The only time I was happy with my rep, was when I had the same as everyone else. So I'd rather it was removed. I'd much rather have vbookie back.

BTW, some of the guys with longer tenure may not post so much now, but if it wasn't for them back in the day, there may not be an orangemane now.

[Taco John]

BTW, some of the guys with longer tenure may not post so much now, but if it wasn't for them back in the day, there may not be an orangemane now.


Quoted for truth.

[Needa Pass Rush]

Like the dickens...

/don't really know what that means, but the in-laws say it all the time.

Learn something new every day.

http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/233450.html

[-Slap-]

I said on the other thread, when this first came down, that each poster should have one rep point per comment. Trolls in the black, obviously would have no rep power. This would establish the truest meritocracy we could hope to achieve.

Much like the NFL. Nobody in the Not For Long holds a starting job unless they deserve to be there. Why should we get sentimental about things like seniority?

I don't like the feeling that management is trying to manipulate the proceedings to achieve their own goals. Landscaping is one of my hobbies. Occasionally my Mom will ask me to plant some things on her property. I'll offer suggestions, but ultimately I defer to her judgement, because its her property and her sense of aesthetics are what matters. I'm nothing but unpaid labor.

This board, despite all the work he does to make it the best of its kind, is not Taco's backyard. Its a community and the people who inhabit this community have the right to speak up when they see something they consider unfair.

Do older posters really need any other advantages? In most cases, they've already got a clique of friends to catch their back if some new poster gets them on the ropes. Why do we need some artificial (and inaccurate) system to further enhance their status?

Once upon a time, rep was anonymous. You had the option of identifying yourself, whether the rep was positive or negative. One day a poster got angry because he received negative rep anonymously. He blamed another poster and gave him anonymous negative rep. Suddenly, and quite conveniently, Taco John remembered how to make the posters' IDs show up on their rep comments. Needless to say, the wrongly accused poster was quite unhappy to discover the source of his negative rep.

Now, maybe it was just a happy coincidence that Taco figured out that rep feature at precisely that moment. Or maybe Taco figured it would be funny to help facilitate an artificial conflict between two members of the community. It certainly generated a lot of laughter.

I don't think the role of management here is to induce or exploit situations like they're editing a reality show. Nor is it their role to arbitrarily assign levels of influence based on specious data.

One poster. One point.

[ludo21]

Slap is still here, good!

Rep should be banned if it stirrs up this much controversy IMO.

[Rascal]

One poster. One point.

Quoted for truth.

[Taco John]

http://www.publicaddress.net/assets/img/yellowperil/Braveheart.jpg

/hoping you still have a sense of humor.

[Taco John]

Ok. Well "one poster, one point" is another way to go.

It's a diverse rep system. There are about a billion ways to go.

I, by no means, am the perfect administrator. But I am the administrator of this board, and I think I've proven again and again and yet again that I am willing to work with people to find a solution when a problem arises. I will bluntly say that I think it's complete horse **** that anyone would come at this with a "taking my ball and going home" approach because thier vision of rep utopia isn't being immediately acted upon.

[Rascal]

Ok. Well "one poster, one point" is another way to go.

It's a diverse rep system. There are about a billion ways to go.

I, by no means, am the perfect administrator. But I am the administrator of this board, and I think I've proven again and again and yet again that I am willing to work with people to find a solution when a problem arises. I will bluntly say that I think it's complete horse **** that anyone would come at this with a "taking my ball and going home" approach because thier vision of rep utopia isn't being immediately acted upon.

Quoted for truth.

With any community this large you are going to create discent from any decision. Just try to come up with a solution that the majority can agree upon that is fair and go with it.

To be honest that's why I created the poll, not to be an inconvienence, but rather to let everyone vote on it and help make the decision since you said this was open for debate.

[Taco John]

Quoted for truth.

With any community this large you are going to create discent from any decision. Just try to come up with a solution that the majority can agree upon that is fair and go with it.

To be honest that's why I created the poll, not to be an inconvienence, but rather to let everyone vote on it and help make the decision since you said this was open for debate.



I appreciate that you want to help. Like I said on the other thread, once we make this decision, it's going to be a permanent one, so I'd prefer to keep discussion going at least until Monday at which time we'll make a decision first whether we want a rep system or not... Once we decide yea or nay on that, everybody will be given an opportunity to vote on their system of choice.

[Rohirrim]

How about this? Switch to nicknames that get posted under your avatar? Once a poster has been around long enough (1,000 posts?) we start a thread to pick a nickname for that poster and then vote on it. For example, B-Love could be Historian, Mediator could be something like Football Guru, SoCal could be Draft Guru, Mock could be Agitator (in a nice way ;D), Alec could be Mercenary, etc. That way, you have rep because you've been around long enough to get a nickname, and second, your nickname gives people a good idea of your personality. Plus, it's more like football. You have to earn your nickname. For all those who don't have one yet, it's Rookie. Anyway, just an idea.

[Broncoman13]

So long as mine is Fantasy Football Guru...I'm kewl with that! I also think I'd give SoCal a run for his money concerning the draft! I concede he knows the West Coast and East Coast(Miami) a little better, but I have the North and South by a long shot!

As for the rep... I can see where people think it's baloney. Slap, SoCal, Pez, and numerous others certainly deserve to have atleast as much, if not more rep power than myself. I've been around since pretty much the beginning, but these guys post a lot more and bring a lot more to the board. Food for thought, but perhaps you could consider what we think about this whole thing TJ... Sounds like you have an overwhelming vote for 1 point for everybody. Then at 100 rep points you gain a 2nd point. Don't know how long that would work b/c you would probably eventually have the same problems, but it's a thought.

[Rock Chalk]

And not only that, you get $2 an hour vacation pay, paid annuity, paid pension, paid medical, dental, vision, safe working conditions, OT after 8, double time on Sundays and holidays and all because "This is America". :strong:
Well I get all of that, plus commissions 24/7/365 PLUS I dnt have to pay a single union fee or miss work because my union decided that Joe Dickwad who cant do his job deserves a raise.

[baja]

Lets say you make a great post and 9 members rep you with their 1 rep power point and along comes Mock who is in a "mood" and neg reps you on a whim causing a loss of your pos rep from 9 people. Not fair!

And you know he will do it to slap.

If you leave it this way neg rep at least should be one point for all.

Another example is say I want to climb the rep charts so badly that I neg rep guys ahead of me with 1 or 2 rep power points knowing they can not get back at me with equal power. That's not fair either.

neg rep must be worth one for all posters or abuse will occur.

[Broncoman13]

Lets say you make a great post and 9 members rep you with their 1 rep power point and along comes Mock who is in a "mood" and neg reps you on a whim causing a loss of your pos rep from 9 people. Not fair!

And you know he will do it to slap.

If you leave it this way neg rep at least should be one point for all.

Another example is say I want to climb the rep charts so badly that I neg rep guys ahead of me with 1 or 2 rep power points knowing they can not get back at me with equal power. That's not fair either.

neg rep must be worth one for all posters or abuse will occur.


That's one twisted mind! Thanks for the ideas though! hahahahahaha!!!

[Tredici]

Ok. Well "one poster, one point" is another way to go.

It's a diverse rep system. There are about a billion ways to go.

I, by no means, am the perfect administrator. But I am the administrator of this board, and I think I've proven again and again and yet again that I am willing to work with people to find a solution when a problem arises. I will bluntly say that I think it's complete horse **** that anyone would come at this with a "taking my ball and going home" approach because thier vision of rep utopia isn't being immediately acted upon.

Honestly TJ, I think you are missing the point. Everyone wants to feel a valued member of the community. There is no way to achieve that if there is a system to weight one person's perception over another. Why should I give out 2, 4, 6, 8 times the rep in welcoming someone or enjoying one of their posts? You know what they say about opinions and azzholes. Why should we deem any stinky butt better smelling than another? It isn't about anyone's vision of rep utopia. But some people might not feel comfortable posting much with some members having a bigger stick - even if it's only temporary. No matter how reasonably based and good the intentions it does reflect a favortism of sorts. Especially when the rules change to include longevity or post count.

Basically, as long as there is a weighted system you don't overcome the problem of a newbie immediately gaining a substantial rep bar. It will continue to happen.

People didn't complain too much about the old system because the measure was simply about the rep you had gained. It's a feature that can be fun or infuriating on it's own. Any meddling with that seems arbitrary to me and apparently some other folks, too.

I'm willing to just become a lurker since that is now a valued form of message board contribution. Then in about 10 years I'm gonna come back and stealth bomb everyone's dots.

[minibronco]

In other words: kissup to seniors and frequent posters?

[Circle Orange]

I say for MASSIVE rep we go to the GIANT ORANGE DOT system...it might clog up the bandwidth, but what the hell...you've gotta make a few sacrifices.

[Bronco_Beerslug]

Well I get all of that, plus commissions 24/7/365 PLUS I dnt have to pay a single union fee or miss work because my union decided that Joe dillwad who cant do his job deserves a raise.
Cool! I'm glad you're making high 5 - low 6 figures a year too.

[Broncoman13]

Cool! I'm glad you're making high 5 - low 6 figures a year too.


but who's got the bigger "schtick"??? rofl

[Bronco_Beerslug]

but who's got the bigger "schtick"??? rofl

;D

I don't know but a girfriend asked one time "Who are you going to satisfy with that?" And I told her...ME!

[-Slap-]

Lets say you make a great post and 9 members rep you with their 1 rep power point and along comes Mock who is in a "mood" and neg reps you on a whim causing a loss of your pos rep from 9 people. Not fair!

And you know he will do it to slap.

If you leave it this way neg rep at least should be one point for all.

Another example is say I want to climb the rep charts so badly that I neg rep guys ahead of me with 1 or 2 rep power points knowing they can not get back at me with equal power. That's not fair either.

neg rep must be worth one for all posters or abuse will occur.
Mock didn't even retaliate when I hit him with a few negs a while back. He said he doesn't care about rep and I believe him. My complaint here is with the new system, not any particular individual.

[baja]

I'll bet you stay #1 even with the slight handy cap.

you're way to cool a dude to let this bother you much longer IMO

Come on Slap I want a "free arguement".....

:-)

[-Slap-]

I'll bet you stay #1 even with the slight handy cap.

you're way to cool a dude to let this bother you much longer IMO

Come on Slap I want a "free arguement".....

:-)
I agree with the people who contend that rep rankings don't necessarily reflect the best posters. I just want to see an equal merit system for everybody, except the trolls, who are regarded appropriately under the current caste system.

[Dagmar]

http://www.publicaddress.net/assets/img/yellowperil/Braveheart.jpg

/hoping you still have a sense of humor.

We DO NOT like that fictional farce!

[baja]

I agree with the people who contend that rep rankings don't necessarily reflect the best posters. I just want to see an equal merit system for everybody, except the trolls, who are regarded appropriately under the current caste system.

Well what ya want to argue about huh huh huh. Come on I'll take ya on. Name your poison. Spelling maybe???

[Atlas]

Wow,this is a great thread. Why don't we just do away with rep or rep power. You can still rep what people say so you can leave them a cute message but no one gains anything by it. Yopu just rep to rep. I keep hearing people say rep means nothing but yet we have a thread with over 200 posts and still going strong.

[-Slap-]

Well what ya want to argue about huh huh huh. Come on I'll take ya on. Name your poison. Spelling maybe???
Not feeling too chippy, Baja.

I'm watching Japanese horror movies right now.......Yikes!

[baja]

Not feeling too chippy, Baja.

I'm watching Japanese horror movies right now.......Yikes!

Chicken huh!

I just watched a Hally Berry (sp) movie...... damn she is hot.

[REB]

I think we'd be better off with a virtual money system that you can use to wager, have trivia contests, etc... If you like someone's post and they don't have many (OrangeBacks)? send a few O-backs their way. We could virtual bet on the games every week and on our OMane FF matchups. Bet OrangeBacks on whatever. Just a thought.

REB

1-2-3-:Broncos:!!!!!!! :charge:

[Rocket 7]

How about a referral program?

[Circle Orange]

Follow the dot chart, everyone...remember your rep depends on it!

Gold - Excellent, Silver - Good, Red - Mediocre, Green - Lousy, Blue - Stinks.

[Circle Orange]

Oh, and here's the troll dot...done in honor of someone I love here...

[broncoblue]

I wish I was good at Scottish humor. I'd say something funny right back at you if I was. Instead here's a picture of this wierd Ninja Rabbit comic book:

http://store.rabbitvalley.org/image_cache/2801.jpg


just ask him why grown men wear skirts???!Booya! :welcome: :thumbsup:

[Rausch]

Taco's taste in comix sucks.

I recomend Ralph Snart (an angry drunken german) or The Trouble with Girls...

[BritBronco Maniac]

Wow,this is a great thread. Why don't we just do away with rep or rep power. You can still rep what people say so you can leave them a cute message but no one gains anything by it. Yopu just rep to rep. I keep hearing people say rep means nothing but yet we have a thread with over 200 posts and still going strong.

I think that is the most sensible post so far.

[BritBronco Maniac]

I think we'd be better off with a virtual money system that you can use to wager, have trivia contests, etc... If you like someone's post and they don't have many (OrangeBacks)? send a few O-backs their way. We could virtual bet on the games every week and on our OMane FF matchups. Bet OrangeBacks on whatever. Just a thought.

REB

1-2-3-:Broncos:!!!!!!! :charge:

This seems to make sense too, and fits in with my view that I would rather have vbucks back

[Rausch]

I think that is the most sensible post so far.

I'm sure that's already an option.

If you want to turn it off you can. You still see rep comments you just don't project your rep "worth."

At least that's how it is on CP, and Taco tends to be a good step above the planet on VB improvements/upgrades...

[No1BroncoFan]

I'm sure that's already an option.

If you want to turn it off you can. You still see rep comments you just don't project your rep "worth."

At least that's how it is on CP, and Taco tends to be a good step above the planet on VB improvements/upgrades...
He's a Bronco fan. It's to be expected. We're faster, better, smarter... You get the idea. ;D

Ben

[REB]

This seems to make sense too, and fits in with my view that I would rather have vbucks back

Yea and you would receive x amount of OrangeBacks for posting and that amount would differ depending on the length of the post. And for those who would just hold down the z button or something to collect OBacks would have their post deleted and not only lose those OBacks but also be fined x amount of OBacks for being a douch. :)

REB

1-2-3-:Broncos:!!!!!!! :charge:

[Nuggets4]

Wow. Trying to read this thread with a hangover was a BAD idea. To paraphrase the guy from "O Brother Where Art Thou":

I agree with you guys.

[Moon§hiner]

While we are at it........I need to figure out a way to distinguish members as they come into town for the tailgates. We've tried name tags they don't work. They fall off and we just can't keep up with all the people. We did orange beeds last home game. That worked but we gave out more than we got back. We need something members can wear ( a pin, a hat, a shirt) something that says (I'm a member and not just someone off the street mooching beers)...

I know I know...this is a topic for another thread but since we are having this great democratic moment I thought I would chime in and atleast plant the seed for a future discussion. May not sound important but we are having a hard time keeping the peace in and around the bus sometimes.

Get an orange magic marker and put cute little circles on their forehead for each tailgate they have attended...yeah, that'll do the trick.

[Odysseus]

---I neg repped a poster just for grins. I got neg repped back. What a surprise. I've got a lot on my plate right now so I'll be away from the Mane for awhile. I'll try to check in when I can but it's going to be very hectic. If you PM me it goes to my email. I'll give you a quick reply. Whatever you do with this is fine. I already said all I am going to say.

Thanks for everyone's kind words and support. Go Broncos!

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You just proved my point.

Positive reps get you positive reps
Negative reps get you negative reps.

Rep is bull****. You just proved it. You couldn't help it. You could'nt walk around it. It was like calling you. The guy is "getting away with something."

You proved my point. Everybody wants to be valued. It's part of the deal. Rep is supposed to be about that. No rep sticks. No power bars. It's supposed to be a way to communicate. It's a discussion group. Rep should not be anymore of a bigger deal than saying hello to someone...period.

The fact that people want to make it into something is bull****. What is even worst is we now want to rank bull****. This is getting too ridiculous to even talk about. It's gotten to the fifth level of stupid.

I wish I had time to enter the debate but I have a lot of important things to face and that is going to take me away from the Mane.

If you don't like the way Slap is acting too bad. Grow the **** up. Nobody in here is perfect. If you think you walk on water I assure you that you don't. Nobody here does. If I started busted out all the punks that post here my fingers would bleed and get tired before I could even get to everybody but these same sissified pansies are my friends and I honor them for being whatever the hell they think they are. Let Slap get it out of his system.

If you want to post up my PM you have my permission. Never mind. I'll do it for you.

[MajikMan7]

wow, whats the big deal over this rep thing