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Ray Finkle
10-24-2005, 06:55 AM
A TE that can catch....draft guys, what TE's are worth drafting this year?

Billy Clyde Puckett
10-24-2005, 07:05 AM
What they need is a reliable third pass catching option whether that is WR or TE.

Mercedes Lewis of UCLA is the top pass catching Te. Day from oregon is a great blocker. Appears to be a big drop off after that.

yavoon
10-24-2005, 07:08 AM
I think we already laid down our coin for a TE.

Dr. Broncenstein
10-24-2005, 07:13 AM
Leonard Pope

Billy Clyde Puckett
10-24-2005, 07:14 AM
yep - but he is a junior and I would be very surprised if he came out this year.

Dr. Broncenstein
10-24-2005, 07:17 AM
yep - but he is a junior and I would be very surprised if he came out this year.

Care to wager? I'll bet he comes out this year and is a 1st rounder....

Spider
10-24-2005, 07:18 AM
A TE that can catch....draft guys, what TE's are worth drafting this year?
He who controls the Hashmarks with a TE , Controls the game ........ Sid Gillman ...

Ray Finkle
10-24-2005, 07:21 AM
He who controls the Hashmarks with a TE , Controls the game ........ Sid Gillman ...

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to §PideŽ again.

Billy Clyde Puckett
10-24-2005, 07:22 AM
If he comes out he could very well be a first rounder, but more likely a second. Why would he come out when he would be a top 10 pick in 2007 and in 2006 the top half of the draft will be dominated by OL, DL, CB and RB.

OrangeShadow
10-24-2005, 07:55 AM
we need to play 4 quarters not 3

CBF1
10-24-2005, 10:10 AM
I hate to say it but Yavoon hit it on the head.... We spent "Bank" on Putz this year after the Jets made him that big offer and we then chose to meet the offer... Looks like a bad signing at this time to me.

ludo21
10-24-2005, 10:40 AM
I hate to say it but Yavoon hit it on the head.... We spent "Bank" on Putz this year after the Jets made him that big offer and we then chose to meet the offer... Looks like a bad signing at this time to me.


not to me. Putz has good hands and has been catching everything his way. He has done a great job blocking IMO and is doing everything the team is asking. i actually think their not using him enough. Dont forget we have our project in Duke who could be a steal, and if Nate actually plays some he will turn some heads, he has great hands and he may not block well, but pass catcher at TE is good to have.

theodnixon
10-24-2005, 10:46 AM
A decent tighend is right down the road in Boulder, Def could become a hometown favorite:

Joe Klopenstien

Mediator12
10-24-2005, 10:47 AM
A TE that can catch....draft guys, what TE's are worth drafting this year?

What? All of DEN's TE's can catch the ball. The problem has been the lack of utilization. Same thing with the FB position. The passing game is way too pedestrian to NOT throw to Putz, Alexander, and Johnson MORE. They have routinely been available and ignored in design.

And what the heck is matching up Putz and Bell with a CB on a short slant pattern? Talk about advantage defense.

ludo21
10-24-2005, 10:50 AM
What? All of DEN's TE's can catch the ball. The problem has been the lack of utilization. Same thing with the FB position. The passing game is way too pedestrian to NOT throw to Putz, Alexander, and Johnson MORE. They have routinely been available and ignored in design.

And what the heck is matching up Putz and Bell with a CB on a short slant pattern? Talk about advantage defense.


i agree, we have the weapons, its time to use them!! If the trend continues of lack of production from these guys, i will then jump on the Fire Kubiak bandwagon and call it a coach problem, not a personnel problem.

Ratboy
10-24-2005, 10:52 AM
Jeb Putzier is good.

You guys are blind.

We need work still, a lot of work.

We need a Franchise QB, Plummer is playing good, but he isn't playing great. The reason he isnt turning the ball over is because he's being limited. If Leinart is the guy that can bring us to a superbowl, So be it.

I think we need a new coach, I would say Offensive and Defensive Coordinators. We need coaches with gameplans that will put up 20 in the 2nd half.

We need to draft a safety. I feel Sam Brandon can manage the other spot. He came on strong this year before the injury, He might be the only Safety with coverage ability.

We also need receivers. Lelie proved he can be a #1 IMO. He was catching the balls that came in his direction. If we can find a possession WR that will catch EVERYTHING, we might be solid at the receiver position. I'm disappointed Darius Watts was inactive, I dont get why he's not playing. He can run awesome routes. I guess the reason was because he doesnt play ST and we need someone.

1. Safety
2. Quarterback
3. Wide Receiver
4. Coaches
5. Kicker

ludo21
10-24-2005, 10:58 AM
Jeb Putzier is good.

You guys are blind.

We need work still, a lot of work.

We need a Franchise QB, Plummer is playing good, but he isn't playing great. The reason he isnt turning the ball over is because he's being limited. If Leinart is the guy that can bring us to a superbowl, So be it.

I think we need a new coach, I would say Offensive and Defensive Coordinators. We need coaches with gameplans that will put up 20 in the 2nd half.

We need to draft a safety. I feel Sam Brandon can manage the other spot. He came on strong this year before the injury, He might be the only Safety with coverage ability.

We also need receivers. Lelie proved he can be a #1 IMO. He was catching the balls that came in his direction. If we can find a possession WR that will catch EVERYTHING, we might be solid at the receiver position. I'm disappointed Darius Watts was inactive, I dont get why he's not playing. He can run awesome routes. I guess the reason was because he doesnt play ST and we need someone.

1. Safety
2. Quarterback
3. Wide Receiver
4. Coaches
5. Kicker


#1 on my list would be OL.

And before you get on the bandwagon about needing to draft another safety, dont forget about Browner, he was very impressive in TC and was a lock to make the roster, next year i expect him to make some plays.

Ratboy
10-24-2005, 11:02 AM
#1 on my list would be OL.

And before you get on the bandwagon about needing to draft another safety, dont forget about Browner, he was very impressive in TC and was a lock to make the roster, next year i expect him to make some plays.

Ahh, Good point. Browner is on IR and slipped my mind, He could be a possibility, but We haven't see alot of him to really say "He's are FS/SS".

I really wish he wasnt on IR, We could see what he is made out of.

ludo21
10-24-2005, 11:12 AM
Ahh, Good point. Browner is on IR and slipped my mind, He could be a possibility, but We haven't see alot of him to really say "He's are FS/SS".

I really wish he wasnt on IR, We could see what he is made out of.


I think he is probably healthy by now too, it was our way of "hiding" him.

He hasnt proven anything, but a college grad hasnt either so we could go either way.

Play2win
10-24-2005, 11:38 AM
I would like to see them run more screens...

Tatum Bell, anybody?

ozomulsion
10-24-2005, 11:39 AM
I would like to see them run more screens...

Tatum Bell, anybody?

Wouldn't that be nice. I concur.

DB-Freak
10-24-2005, 11:44 AM
Well once he stops dropping the ball.

It would be nice to try.

Eagles Turn
10-24-2005, 11:52 AM
a win on Sunday! Which it wont get! Eagles steal the show!

jmz313
10-24-2005, 11:55 AM
Broncos just need to finish off oponents and now try and line up Putz and Bell at WR on crucial 3rd downs.

As for Draft, I'd Like to see us go after a Playmaker. I don;t even care what side of the ball its on, I just want to see new blood that can make an impact. Its always a gamble and may not be the best option but we haven't taken a big risk in the draft in a while, that I can remember. We got 2 1st rounders.

Ray Finkle
10-24-2005, 12:44 PM
What? All of DEN's TE's can catch the ball. The problem has been the lack of utilization. Same thing with the FB position. The passing game is way too pedestrian to NOT throw to Putz, Alexander, and Johnson MORE. They have routinely been available and ignored in design.

And what the heck is matching up Putz and Bell with a CB on a short slant pattern? Talk about advantage defense.


Denvers TE's don't scare anyone....Just because they can catch the ball doesn't mean the do...look at the game plan yesterday, rewatch the tape of were Plummer was looking. He looked at the TE more than the WR.

Bronco LB 59
10-24-2005, 12:51 PM
I hate to say it but Yavoon hit it on the head.... We spent "Bank" on Putz this year after the Jets made him that big offer and we then chose to meet the offer... Looks like a bad signing at this time to me.

The investment on Putz was not as lucrative as everybody thinks. He only got a $2.5 million signing bonus over five years. That's chump change.

In addition to Mercedes Lewis and Dr. Broncenstein's boy Leonard Pope, I would also like to add Greg Olsen (Miami) and Vernon Davis (Maryland) to the list of possibilities.

bendog
10-24-2005, 12:53 PM
Hape's been better. Adams had the drop last week, but he's been decent, imo.

Mediator12
10-24-2005, 12:56 PM
Denvers TE's don't scare anyone....Just because they can catch the ball doesn't mean the do...look at the game plan yesterday, rewatch the tape of were Plummer was looking. He looked at the TE more than the WR.

That is really funny! They ran 3 TE sets more than three WR and you are talking about looking at the TE more than WR? The TE's still were more decoys with the ball being thrown to WR's and RB's MORE out of the TE sets than to the THREE TE's.

TheReverend
10-24-2005, 12:58 PM
Draft a franchise tackle and a safety to complete our defense... we just need to keep manning up at the end instead of soft zones to close out these games.

Ray Finkle
10-24-2005, 01:00 PM
That is really funny! They ran 3 TE sets more than three WR and you are talking about looking at the TE more than WR? The TE's still were more decoys with the ball being thrown to WR's and RB's MORE out of the TE sets than to the THREE TE's.


look again. When they had the 3 TE packages in, his first look was to either Alexander or Putz...

Hercules Rockefeller
10-24-2005, 01:03 PM
What? All of DEN's TE's can catch the ball. The problem has been the lack of utilization. Same thing with the FB position. The passing game is way too pedestrian to NOT throw to Putz, Alexander, and Johnson MORE. They have routinely been available and ignored in design.


Yes. I couldn't believe they actually threw the ball downfield yesterday to Johnson.

TheReverend
10-24-2005, 01:25 PM
It was a great game... just who ever wrote the ending got it backwards.

DrFate
10-24-2005, 01:27 PM
Jeb Putzier is good.

You guys are blind.


::)

dlow187
10-24-2005, 02:18 PM
Jeb Putzier is good.

You guys are blind.

We need work still, a lot of work.

We need a Franchise QB, Plummer is playing good, but he isn't playing great. The reason he isnt turning the ball over is because he's being limited. If Leinart is the guy that can bring us to a superbowl, So be it.

I think we need a new coach, I would say Offensive and Defensive Coordinators. We need coaches with gameplans that will put up 20 in the 2nd half.

We need to draft a safety. I feel Sam Brandon can manage the other spot. He came on strong this year before the injury, He might be the only Safety with coverage ability.

We also need receivers. Lelie proved he can be a #1 IMO. He was catching the balls that came in his direction. If we can find a possession WR that will catch EVERYTHING, we might be solid at the receiver position. I'm disappointed Darius Watts was inactive, I dont get why he's not playing. He can run awesome routes. I guess the reason was because he doesnt play ST and we need someone.

1. Safety
2. Quarterback
3. Wide Receiver
4. Coaches
5. Kicker


Did you forget about O-Line?

rbackfactory80
10-24-2005, 02:29 PM
Ed Reed, Tom Brady, Randy Moss, Adam Viniterie

24champ
10-24-2005, 02:30 PM
Wheres Putz? Seriously maybe im wrong but I thought he would be included in the offense a little more....

BMF Bronco
10-24-2005, 02:35 PM
a win on Sunday! Which it wont get! Eagles steal the show!
It starts....:cuss:

Hogan11
10-24-2005, 02:36 PM
Get new safeties. Either that or put more corners back there in those slots.

And how about getting that worthless Van Pelt out there to hold for Elam or get a backup that can do the job....it's obivously not Jake's strong point by a mile and is an obivous reason why he's been missing them as of late.

NFLBRONCO
10-24-2005, 02:50 PM
Draft a franchise tackle and a safety to complete our defense... we just need to keep manning up at the end instead of soft zones to close out these games.


I think we need 2 Safeties a 6'5 WR LT G

24champ
10-24-2005, 03:01 PM
Did anyone on this thread mention DUUUUKE! NO we dont need to draft a TE, a wasted pick IMO. We need to spend the picks on OL, WR, S, RB like Michael Bush....

elsid13
10-24-2005, 03:18 PM
Ok, as one of the most vocal critics of the TE the last couple of weeks, yesterday was the first time that I actual like how they played. The TE were involved in the passing game. Notice how Lelie was to get the slant working??? The problem is not the TE we have, it getting them involved and key part of the game plan.

Billy Clyde Puckett
10-24-2005, 03:56 PM
In addition to Mercedes Lewis and Dr. Broncenstein's boy Leonard Pope, I would also like to add Greg Olsen (Miami) and Vernon Davis (Maryland) to the list of possibilities.

There's a couple of good ones up in Oregon - don't have their names at hand, but one is a grat blocker - the other a good receiver. I do think if they had a reliable third reciever threat, the TE position as it stands would be adequate. Trouble is, there do not appear to be any superstar WRs in this year's draft, but that could change. A couple of good juniors could come out.

Rock Chalk
10-24-2005, 03:57 PM
What this team really needs are some god damn fans that dont jump ship after getting hosed in a game.

Sadly, this site is lacking in that. Most of you are spoiled little ****ing kids.

5-2, I'll take it. Better than I thought we would be before the season started.

Bronco LB 59
10-24-2005, 04:11 PM
There's a couple of good ones up in Oregon - don't have their names at hand, but one is a grat blocker - the other a good receiver. I do think if they had a reliable third reciever threat, the TE position as it stands would be adequate. Trouble is, there do not appear to be any superstar WRs in this year's draft, but that could change. A couple of good juniors could come out.

Yes! Tim Day of the Ducks and Joe Newton of the Beavers. I have watched a little bit of both, but don't know enough to comment on their future NFL propsects.

24champ
10-24-2005, 04:40 PM
What this team really needs are some god damn fans that dont jump ship after getting hosed in a game.

Sadly, this site is lacking in that. Most of you are spoiled little ****ing kids.

5-2, I'll take it. Better than I thought we would be before the season started.
yup agree with that whole post. People start pointing fingers and just like that it turns into an off-season who should we pick up after we dump (insert players name) or we should draft this guy because (insert players name) sucks. We lost get over it and move on, things could be worse you could be a chief, raider, or even chargers fan looking up at the Broncos....

Hulamau
10-24-2005, 04:46 PM
Well once he stops dropping the ball.

It would be nice to try.

Agreed DB, Tater would make a potent screen machine IF, but only IF he first proves he can catch the damn more than once in a blue moon. We need to get him going early, or at least when we've got a two plus TD lead and not wait until 3rd down at total crunch time to start to start throwing it to him. I would have like to see him get more carries yesterday too.

MA did a great job, but Tater would likely have broken a few big ones with another 8 to 10 carries.

Hercules Rockefeller
10-24-2005, 05:08 PM
Did anyone on this thread mention DUUUUKE!

Duke is like Browner, neither should be mentioned until they actually contribute.

Hulamau
10-24-2005, 05:09 PM
Just watching Monday Night Countdown TJ and crew were highlighting Furgeson standing in the endzone with his thumb up his butt while Toomer runs right in front of him and jumps up for the ball and he left Foxworth with no help at all while he was in perfect postion to nail toomer when he was stretched out and would likely have dropped the ball with a good hit as Toomer had to stetch so high.

Tom Jackson joked about Furgy must have been point shaving.

Kaylore
10-24-2005, 05:13 PM
One more guy with great hands and a real possesion threat would really open things up for this offense and we'd be amazing.

Kaylore
10-24-2005, 05:14 PM
Agreed DB, Tater would make a potent screen machine IF, but only IF he first proves he can catch the damn more than once in a blue moon. We need to get him going early, or at least when we've got a two plus TD lead and not wait until 3rd down at total crunch time to start to start throwing it to him. I would have like to see him get more carries yesterday too.

MA did a great job, but Tater would likely have broken a few big ones with another 8 to 10 carries.
Yeah, but according to Taco that's the offense's fault. Maybe if we scored more points he would have remembered better or something...:flush:

Hercules Rockefeller
10-24-2005, 05:16 PM
One more guy with great hands and a real possesion threat would really open things up for this offense and we'd be amazing.

He'd just be another under-utilized part of the passing offense, kind of like the FB and TEs or the 3rd and 4th WRs all the time, and #1 and #2 WR when the game is on the line.

24champ
10-24-2005, 05:22 PM
Duke is like Browner, neither should be mentioned until they actually contribute.
so its OK to mention College players that we could draft and they havent played a friggin down in the NFL but not Duke and Browner wtf?

Hercules Rockefeller
10-24-2005, 05:26 PM
so its OK to mention College players that we could draft and they havent played a friggin down in the NFL but not Duke and Browner wtf?

The players being mentioned are going to be 1st day picks in the NFL, guys that all 32 teams probably think deserve a shot in the league to prove themselves. Both Browner and Duke went undrafted, that's a pretty big difference. Duke hadn't played football since high school.

24champ
10-24-2005, 05:29 PM
The players being mentioned are going to be 1st day picks in the NFL, guys that all 32 teams probably think deserve a shot in the league to prove themselves. Both Bronwer and Duke went undrafted, that's a pretty big difference. Duke hadn't played football since high school.
Both have good upside and potential, they are a part of the Broncos future whether you like it or not. Did Gates go in the first round?

24champ
10-24-2005, 05:34 PM
In fact tell me where Antonio Gates was drafted, since 1st rounders are studs according to you....

Hercules Rockefeller
10-24-2005, 05:34 PM
Did Gates go in the first round?

Gates is irrelevant when discussing Duke because of how rarely something like that happens. The odds of Duke becoming another Gates is pretty damn small, but people here like to pretend it happens all the time, which is why they love to throw Gates' name out there whenever Duke is brought up. Let me know when Duke makes an impact on the playing field, at that point he becomes part of the Broncos future, ditto with Browner. Until that happens they're like every other late round pick/UDFA, someone the team hopes will work out.

Hercules Rockefeller
10-24-2005, 05:35 PM
In fact tell me where Antonio Gates was drafted, since 1st rounders are studs according to you....

Good straw man, show me my exact quote where I said 1st rounders are studs

baja
10-24-2005, 05:36 PM
What? All of DEN's TE's can catch the ball. The problem has been the lack of utilization. Same thing with the FB position. The passing game is way too pedestrian to NOT throw to Putz, Alexander, and Johnson MORE. They have routinely been available and ignored in design.

And what the heck is matching up Putz and Bell with a CB on a short slant pattern? Talk about advantage defense.

Disagree with the coment about lack of production from the fullback position, Johnson had a good game against NE and a great game against NY

RhymesayersDU
10-24-2005, 05:37 PM
We could have had Heath Miller.

24champ
10-24-2005, 05:43 PM
Gates is irrelevant when discussing Duke because of how rarely something like that happens. The odds of Duke becoming another Gates is pretty damn small, but people here like to pretend it happens all the time. Let me know when Duke makes an impact on the playing field, at that point he becomes part of the Broncos future, ditto with Browner. Until that happens they're like every other late round pick/UDFA, someone the team hopes will work out.
How is it irrelevant? they both come from the same background. They both played basketball, extremely atheletic and Antonio Gates was coached by Tim Brewster who is now coaching Duke. Both were undrafted, Brewster is teaching Duke how to be a TE and when Duke is on the field next training camp we will see what he is made of....

24champ
10-24-2005, 05:44 PM
Good straw man, show me my exact quote where I said 1st rounders are studs
well you hurried up and edited one of your posts so there goes that.

Hercules Rockefeller
10-24-2005, 05:57 PM
well you hurried up and edited one of your posts so there goes that.

Nice try buddy. A problem arises for you in your post of 6:29 PM, where you quoted my now edited post. The quote of my post, in your post, is unedited. If you go look at my quote in the box, compared to my edited post, you will see that the only change I made was correcting my misspelling of Browner's name. I accidentally spelled it BroNWer.

Now please show me where I said all 1st round picks are studs.

Edit: or 5:29 PM depending on what your clock is set at, the post is #54 in this thread.

Hercules Rockefeller
10-24-2005, 06:01 PM
How is it irrelevant? they both come from the same background. They both played basketball, extremely atheletic and Antonio Gates was coached by Tim Brewster who is now coaching Duke. Both were undrafted, Brewster is teaching Duke how to be a TE and when Duke is on the field next training camp we will see what he is made of....

You cite the exception to the rule as if it is the rule. Regardles of how many similarities you point out between Gates and Duke, the fact remains that what Gates has done is extraordinary and extremely rare in the NFL. To simply throw Gates' name out there as a reason to say Duke is part of this team's future neglects to point out what Gates overcame, and what Duke as of yet has overcome.

Billy Clyde Puckett
10-24-2005, 06:37 PM
You cite the exception to the rule as if it is the rule. Regardles of how many similarities you point out between Gates and Duke, the fact remains that what Gates has done is extraordinary and extremely rare in the NFL. To simply throw Gates' name out there as a reason to say Duke is part of this team's future neglects to point out what Gates overcame, and what Duke as of yet has overcome.


Let's see, I'm trying to remember the last college basketball player before Gates who did not play college football, that became a productive receiver in the NFL. Pete Gent, perhaps?

Would be wonderful if Duke became a star but Lightning does not strike that often

24champ
10-24-2005, 07:07 PM
Nice try buddy. A problem arises for you in your post of 6:29 PM, where you quoted my now edited post. The quote of my post, in your post, is unedited. If you go look at my quote in the box, compared to my edited post, you will see that the only change I made was correcting my misspelling of Browner's name. I accidentally spelled it BroNWer.

Now please show me where I said all 1st round picks are studs.

Edit: or 5:29 PM depending on what your clock is set at, the post is #54 in this thread.
Alright alright i didnt see that, thought you changed it, my bad. I was merely trying to point out that not all players are sure things, like rod smith for example wasnt drafted and didnt play right away but look where he is now. Granted Rod had some College experience but even then people said the competition at the division 2 level isnt great so why waste time with rod? Im trying to point out that the Broncos have had some success with undrafted FAs and theres a reason why Brewster likes Duke..

24champ
10-24-2005, 07:08 PM
Let's see, I'm trying to remember the last college basketball player before Gates who did not play college football, that became a productive receiver in the NFL. Pete Gent, perhaps?

Would be wonderful if Duke became a star but Lightning does not strike that often
Try Marcus Pollard....

24champ
10-24-2005, 07:10 PM
You cite the exception to the rule as if it is the rule. Regardles of how many similarities you point out between Gates and Duke, the fact remains that what Gates has done is extraordinary and extremely rare in the NFL. To simply throw Gates' name out there as a reason to say Duke is part of this team's future neglects to point out what Gates overcame, and what Duke as of yet has overcome.
Duke is still a project and im confident the coaches will spend the time with him and develop him into a solid TE.

baja
10-24-2005, 07:28 PM
Duke is still a project and im confident the coaches will spend the time with him and develop him into a solid TE.

Mind sharing what you hang that confidence on.

llayne
10-24-2005, 07:39 PM
[Q]
1. Safety
2. Quarterback
3. Wide Receiver
4. Coaches
5. Kicker[/QUOTE]
First thing we need is a solid kicker. Jason Elam has proven to be a reliable boarderline clutch kicker. He has come through big at times, but has also cost the Broncos valuable points that seal games. With this in mind, we should draft Mason Crosby. He kicked a 58 yarder at sea level against the Hurricaines, and with improved accuracy, would make automatic Adam (Vinatieri) obsolete. Elam's mistakes would undoubtedly be corrected by Clutch Crosby.

24champ
10-24-2005, 07:41 PM
Mind sharing what you hang that confidence on.
the same confidence coaches had when they saw Pollard, Gonzalez, Gates...Pollard went to Steward County Community College for two years before transferring to Bradley. Im sure Colts fans scoffed at him being a good TE. From what we heard in pre-season Duke was a willing learner and always listened to the coaches. I say wait till training camp to see what this kid is made out of.

TheReverend
10-24-2005, 07:51 PM
What this team REALLY needs is some fan support even when we lose tight games/blown out. What this team REALLY needs is less "Fire Shanny/Kubiak/Coyer" threads. What this team REALLY needs is less "Way to go Elam!" threads. Crying to spend a few years rebuilding...?

baja
10-24-2005, 07:56 PM
the same confidence coaches had when they saw Pollard, Gonzalez, Gates...Pollard went to Steward County Community College for two years before transferring to Bradley. Im sure Colts fans scoffed at him being a good TE. From what we heard in pre-season Duke was a willing learner and always listened to the coaches.<b> I say wait till training camp to see what this kid is made out of.</b>

That's kinda what we are all doing but that is not what you said before.

Originally Posted by 24champbailey
Duke is still a project and im confident the coaches will spend the time with him and develop him into a solid TE.

SoCalBronco
10-24-2005, 08:04 PM
Marcedes is a good but not great TE. He is still developing, but he has a good deal of upside. I like The Putz. He is getting better and better. If the FO decides however that we need a new TE of the future, I would prefer us to wait till the Spring 2007 draft and take Greg Olsen of Miami. It is homer, but its also a great pick independent of that. Greg is an excellent TE prospect who continues to develop. Coach Coker has repeatedly said he will end up better than Shockey and Winslow. He has looked outstanding at various times in the last two years, just needs some more experience. He is unlikely to come out for this upcoming draft, though.

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24champ
10-24-2005, 08:06 PM
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That's kinda what we are all doing but that is not what you said before.

Originally Posted by 24champbailey
Duke is still a project and im confident the coaches will spend the time with him and develop him into a solid TE.
Look at post 60 please....

How is it irrelevant? they both come from the same background. They both played basketball, extremely atheletic and Antonio Gates was coached by Tim Brewster who is now coaching Duke. Both were undrafted, Brewster is teaching Duke how to be a TE and when Duke is on the field next training camp we will see what he is made of.... [/

NFLBRONCO
10-24-2005, 08:17 PM
I'd rather use picks on LT G WR S over TE right now they are much bigger needs then TE IMO.

SoCalBronco
10-24-2005, 08:18 PM
There's also another TE that got kicked out of school at Florida Atlantic in 2004 that is a real sleeper. I dont know what the hell happened to him but he definitely has NFL caliber skills. His name is Anthony Crissinger-Hill. I have no idea where he is now but he is definitely a guy that can play in the league despite being from a very low profile school. Shanahan often has player tryouts on Tuesdays during the season and ofcourse late in the season he signs a few players to futures contracts as he did last year with Markus Steele and Mike Pinkard. If they could find where Crissinger-Hill is, and be sure his departure from Florida Atlantic had nothing to due with character issues they would be VERY wise to get him on board. This guy is for real. I dont know if he made himself eligible for the draft last year or what, but he definitely belongs in the NFL. I would be very happy to see Mike give him a futures contract.

EDIT: I just did some research on him and it appears he was a senior in 2004 and missed the second half of the season for unknown reasons. I am shocked he went undrafted. Absolutely shocked. I still hope he gets one of those tryouts if not with us, with someone. He has definite NFL ability.

Ray Finkle
10-24-2005, 08:21 PM
What this team really needs are some god damn fans that dont jump ship after getting hosed in a game.

Sadly, this site is lacking in that. Most of you are spoiled little ****ing kids.

5-2, I'll take it. Better than I thought we would be before the season started.


I didn't start this thread to do that. I just think it is an aspect of the Broncos that has lacked since Sharpe left. Putz is okay but I thought they should have worked out a trade with the Jets for him...

baja
10-24-2005, 08:23 PM
I was talking about post 67



Duke is still a project and<b> im confident the coaches will spend the time with him and develop him into a solid TE.</b>

But whatever.

SoCalBronco
10-24-2005, 08:24 PM
I didn't start this thread to do that. I just think it is an aspect of the Broncos that has lacked since Sharpe left. Putz is okay but I thought they should have worked out a trade with the Jets for him...

The Jets were offering 2 day 2 picks, I believe a 5th and 6th for him. Clearly inadequate compensation.

baja
10-24-2005, 08:28 PM
Look at post 60 please....

I did

why did you write what you did in 67 than?

dlow187
10-24-2005, 08:28 PM
TE's have always been big a part of our O except this year. I hope todd heap leaves baltimore someday. He was taught by sharpe for 1 year ya know.

Ray Finkle
10-24-2005, 08:32 PM
TE's have always been big a part of our O except this year. I hope todd heap leaves baltimore someday. He was taught by sharpe for 1 year ya know.


Heap has not been the same since his ankle/foot injury.

24champ
10-24-2005, 08:34 PM
I did

why did you write what you did in 67 than?
Because i was talking to Hercules before you chimed into the convo, are you old enough to read?

baja
10-24-2005, 08:35 PM
Because i was talking to Hercules before you chimed into the convo, are you old enough to read?

No but I'm physic