The hit on Putzier

[troya900]

Ok during the game I remember Simms and Nantz saying that it was a good clean hit shoulder to chest. Well after watching Sportscenter and stuff it looked like Putziers chin was bleeding and what took the brunt of the hit. Now in recent years certain Denver players have been fined and gotten 15 yard penalties where they decked a reciever in the chest and also caught some of the chin. I just want to know what other people think of the hit and if it should be reviewed and fined.

[watermock]

Don't expect anything this week...NE lost despite the best attempt of the officials...

Your barking up a tree...get him a doctor.

[watermock]

Did you see the kill shot Kenoy laid out?

[watermock]

I saw the officials try to throw that game 5 times...

[watermock]

The hit was right to the chin but wasn't called. The refs suck. it was obvious and never called.

[Atlas]

Did you see the kill shot Kenoy laid out?

That was an amazing hit. He'll definately get fined. He also had an INT returned for a TD. Damn Kenedy could never do that for the Broncs. I wonder how he likes playing for the hapless Lions as opposed to the 5-1 Broncos. Enjoy the offseason Kenoy.

[easymobee]

I don't like to blame refs for a loss, but since we won i can complain.

Seems like the refs were indeed providing the "World Champs" a helping hand throughout the 1st half to the point where they almost had to "mellow it out" in the 3rd quarter ( Or maybe that below the belt shot caused the refs to be less sympathetic to the Patsies plight ).

It returned during the Patsies "stirring" comeback in the form of various no-calls as our DLineman were being tackled at Brady's feet ( 3 real bad ones pop instantly to mind ).

This place would have been very pissed had we lost today.

[zdoor]

The call on Pryce for roughing the passer was BS. He barely touched him...

[Atlas]

I don't like to blame refs for a loss, but since we won i can complain.

Seems like the refs were indeed providing the "World Champs" a helping hand throughout the 1st half to the point where they almost had to "mellow it out" in the 3rd quarter ( Or maybe that below the belt shot caused the refs to be less sympathetic to the Patsies plight ).

It returned during the Patsies "stirring" comeback in the form of various no-calls as our DLineman were being tackled at Brady's feet ( 3 real bad ones pop instantly to mind ).

This place would have been very pissed had we lost today.

How can an OL tackle Warren and not be flagged for it??? What did the ref think he tripped over the chalk line and this OL just happened to land on top of him?

[easymobee]

The call on Pryce for roughing the passer was BS. He barely touched him...

That too.

Maybe 3 or 4 QB's in the league get that call.

Can't complain too much though .... we used to have Elway.

[easymobee]

How can an OL tackle Warren and not be flagged for it??? What did the ref think he tripped over the chalk line and this OL just happened to land on top of him?

I was 100% sure that the FLAG Icon was gonna pop up on the screen after that play to negate the pass.

[Rocket 7]

The call on Pryce for roughing the passer was BS. He barely touched him...
That wasn't just "him". That was Golden boy Tom Brady. But I agree what a chicken **** call.

[Northman]

Yea, dont get started on this **** again. but yes, it was a helmet to helmet hit on Putz as their helmets touched. but because it wasnt a Bronco defender doing the hitting Samuels wont get a fine. TOTAL BS.

[Blueflame]

Hey, it's a former Raider (Gene Washington) making the decisions as to who gets fined and who doesn't... 'nuff said.

[meangene]

I don't understand why Mankins "crotch shot" of Ekuban (which occured after the last play of the half) wasn't assessed as a personal foul to start the second half. Do you get a free shot when the clock expires at the half?

Shananhan is going to have to start doing some lobbying about our d-line getting held every week with no calls. It's getting absurd!

[Mile High Shack]

it was a good hit, I like those kinds of hits

but we would've gotten a 15 yarder

[bloodsunday]

The ironic angle to this is all the complaining in the national media about flags being on the rise in game this season. Then they go out and put a huge damper on the premier game of the day.

http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/story/8960374

(there was one story like it on every major sports site).

The worst part was the calls were so marginal. I never saw a close up replay, but on the stadium scoreboard the 15 yard face mask on Foxworth looked like a crock of ****. The roughing the passer call we definitely a crock of ****. The no call on putz was a crock of ****. Every special teams play in the first quarter had a penalty.

Did the NFL adopt the new NHL rules in the offseason?

[tornado927]

Ok during the game I remember Simms and Nantz saying that it was a good clean hit shoulder to chest. Well after watching Sportscenter and stuff it looked like Putziers chin was bleeding and what took the brunt of the hit. Now in recent years certain Denver players have been fined and gotten 15 yard penalties where they decked a reciever in the chest and also caught some of the chin. I just want to know what other people think of the hit and if it should be reviewed and fined.


I really thought the hit was clean. I watched it several times and I agree that old boy's helmet did make contact with Putz's chin, but I think the fact that he led with his shoulder....which made contact with Putz's chest first before the "incedental contact?" of Samuel's helmet to Putz's chin I think for me is the deciding factor. I have to chalk Putz's chin laceration to a caualty of war. That being said I think it was one of the few calls the refs got right in this game.....That phantom personal foul called on Pryce being the worst! :cuss:

[Boogerboots]

Had that hit been from Lynch, they would have tossed the laundry at him. But it did seem that the Pats were getting the calls that helped them try and even up the score.

Did anyone notice how many of our D-linemen were spun around while being held by their offensive line. I saw at least 3 occasions in the 2nd half where holding was so obvious that they should have been flagged. But just like the X-midget with the Chefs on his kickoff returns, the refs were just too enamoured with the play of Brady to notice.

[Ninjafied]

It was a good hit that’s what I like to see in football. Unfortunately a lot of double standards in today’s game prevents that.
I didn’t like seeing CBS replay it 4 or 5 times in a row, simply because I was sick of hearing Pats fans cheer each time. But I guess that’s what the networks do when a guy can’t get off the field.
Otherwise, is anyone else convinced that Jake put out a hit on Putz that play? Poor kid, it was a setup as soon as the ball was snapped.

[Dr. Broncenstein]

The call on Pryce for roughing the passer was BS. He barely touched him...

It was also blatant intentional grounding. At that point in the game, I lost it... :redpunch:

[Paladin]

What has been said here thus far is accurate as far as I am concerned. But there was one benefit: the crowd got into giving the refs fits and booed the h3ll outta the Pats, and I think that got a few of the juices flowing for the Broncos and the fans. During the break after Putz was taken to the sidelines, Shanahan was having a very deep and "up close and personal" discussion with the referee. No doubt: if you have the moniker of "Defending Champs", you do get a few more breaks. The Pat's holding against the Broncos Dline was atrocious, and the call on Pryce was absolutely absurd. There was a Pats fan sitting behind me, and he was even saying there were a "couple" of bad calls against the Broncos and a "couple" of non-calls against the Pats. Most of the times those things seem to even out, but in this game it seemed to me they did not. It is not th enumber o calls made or not made, it is the timing and the type of calls made or not made that are important.

Having said that, I am absolutely pi$$ed at Shanahan. Being up 28-3 is no reason to shut down the O. The Broncos went into a total vanilla cream-puff stupor after that score to start the third. The idea of sitting on the D is dumb, and leads to closer games than they should be. I would have thought that Shanahan would be out to cream the Pats, particularly since the Pats were getting huge breaks, and I was very disappointed at the strategy of "sitting on the lead".

[bendog]

It was also blatant intentional grounding. At that point in the game, I lost it... :redpunch:
A BS call, but we got a phantom Roughing call a week or two ago.

The only thing that pissed me off is if Lynch hit Graham with the SAME EXACT hit, it'd cost him more than 50Large.

[enjolras]

Can we get a pic of that hit?

I tivo'ed it several times and I'm SURE that the hit was clean. The patriots logo was barely visible above Putziers shoulder pad.. meaning that the helmet was tucked low. He led with his shoulder...it looked like the defenders shoulder pad rode up into Putzes chin.

It was a hard hit.. it was a bit of a cheap shot really... but I do think it was within the rules.

[OrangeShadow]

i liked wilsons hit on branch

[RaiderH8r]

I suspect there wouldn't be so much bitterness over Putz's hit if we remotely believed that the same hit, levied by Lynch wouldn't have brought a 15 yd penalty and $75K in fines....oh wait....it did. Dallas Clark must be laughing somewhere.

[bronco militia]

according to the rules we've learned over the years with KK and Lynch, the hit on Putz should have been flagged for hitting a defensless reciever.

as lame as you guys think the roughing call on Pryce was, he did get a paw on his chin strap. The Zebras have been very consistant with this call for two seasons now.

[Play2win]

I'm all for playing Old-School, but, then, everybody has got to be able to play Old-School. It seem like The Pats are the only team that can play Old-School and get away with it, ie. Not get flagged (or be flagged very MINIMALLY)

[bendog]

according to the rules we've learned over the years with KK and Lynch, the hit on Putz should have been flagged for hitting a defensless reciever.

as lame as you guys think the roughing call on Pryce was, he did get a paw on his chin strap. The Zebras have been very consistant with this call for two seasons now.
I think the same observation was made on the phantom roughing on Jake. They may be consistent, but it's just lame to flag a guy for TOUCHING the face of another moving player. I know what they're trying to prevent and all, but it's just another instance of making it physically impossible to play defense.

And yeah, NE got away with some holds, but I haven't watched to see what our oline did.

[watermock]

The Putz took a hard one no doubt. I don't care. I'm more concerned the refs let their OL literally tackle our DL. It was absurd.

We have to wait for the injury report I guess. It's not the last time we will take a pee to the ladies room too early and let a team back in it...I have seen it so many times it's insane.

We are 5-1. Pack your bags folks, we are going on the road.

[watermock]

The roughting call on Jake was ticky tack I agree.

Why don't they just put yellow flags on QB's belts.

Mock is worried about his stupid cat...he never hangs by the heater...he's got choices all round. Must of gotten his ass kicked and lost his mojo...I can't see any visible signs of injury...

He just keeps acting like someone who flunked out of Jr. College, hanging his head...must of had an ass kicking but I can't find any injuries...must of been a turf battle...

[JLine27]

Did you see the kill shot Kenoy laid out?


When I first saw the hit on Jeb I thought it was dirty, but after seeing it I thought he was definitely leading with his shoulder. I agree that Lynch probably would have been fined.

As for Kenoy, just a flat out cheap shot. That's why I was glad to see him go, that and the fact that he couldn't cover me...

[watermock]

Monday Morning QB will be on soon...we will see the casualty report...Bailey is doubtful probably, but he tried...Putz is on asperin...I didn't see anything else...Putz took a killer hit, but I agree, it was legal.

Kenoys hit was absolutely cheap. Cheaper than anything he pulled in Denver.

[anthonypacino]

three calls were totally absurd, first the 15 yard facemask, on the replay I could see his hand on his mask but he did not tackle him with it, it should have been a 5 yarder not a 15. roughing the passer that was a crock of $hit, but he is the co-golden boy with Manning so I guess I was expecting one of those type of calls sometime yesterday. The hit on Jeb, John Lynch was fined for a very similar hit on a Colt TE last year (Clark or Hartsock I believe) but on Lynch's hit he did not launch himself, his feet were on the ground until after contact was made but a penalty was assesed and Lynch was fined. Yesterday that DB LAUNCHED himself and helmet contact was made yeah his shoulder hit Jeb in the chest cause the crown of his helmet hit Jeb in/under his facemask, no penalty and there will be no fine, some of the perks of winning 3 SB's I guess.

[watermock]

It wasn't helmet to helmet, but he certainly speared.

The refs were horrible.

[BMF Bronco]

It wasn't helmet to helmet, but he certainly speared.

The refs were horrible.

Like my ex wife said yesterday, "you have been watching the Broncos for 30 years, 12 of which have been your adult life, what makes you think this year is going to be different than any other year. They will never get the calls!" She has only been watching the Broncos religiously for 8 years now and can see this, and she's a Packer fan!

[Bronx33]

The call on Pryce for roughing the passer was BS. He barely touched him...


That's the call that blew me away..... ugh!~

[RhymesayersDU]

It's hard to complain about the roughing the passer call. Yes it was B.S., but it wasn't anymore B.S. then the call we got last year in Jacksonville. Anybody remember? We're trying to make a late game drive, Jake has an incomplete on a 3rd down, but magically we get that gift of a call to keep the drive going. And the guy touched Jake just barely...

Plus, people used to complain that ol #7 bobbed his head at the line to draw guys offsides, which I think he did a lot of the times..

Everything comes full circle.

[orangeatheist]

Geez, Mock. Each sentence doesn't need its own post. You could've put all four of those thoughts into one upload. :pity:

[Beantown Bronco]

At least our's wasn't the only game with bad refs. Anyone watch the ESPN game last night. Hasselbeck scrambles for a few yards, then goes into a feet first slide and gets hit by two defenders....no call. The guys in the booth were speechless.

[Merlin]

If there is H2H contact, it doesn't matter if its incidental, it is still a penalty. However, in the replay I could not clearly see if there was H2H contact, it looked like it, but it was not definitive. BTW, Putzier did not seem troubled by the hit afterwards (he seemed to think it was a good hit).

PS, I do agree that KK or Lynch would have been penalized for the hit.

[BroncoFanDoug]

My take. It was H2H but it would be easy to miss by the refs. I think there is a chance he will still get fined - didn't Kenoy or Lynch have one where they got fined but there was no on-field call?

The hit was easily as egregious as some that Broncos got fined for. Let's see how consistently the rule is applied.

[broncoblue]

any links or vids of the hits?

[Merlin]

If there is H2H contact, it doesn't matter if its incidental, it is still a penalty.
I should have added that Putzier was defenseless, otherwise H2H does not necessarily mean a penalty.