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Needa Pass Rush
10-07-2005, 04:37 PM
All these skins fans are toon makers. Someone needs to send this to Champ!

Play the 9 Million Dollar Man clip.

http://www.thehogs.net/Flash/Cartoons/main.php

Rock Chalk
10-07-2005, 04:51 PM
Champ go full speed today? Anyone know?

watermock
10-07-2005, 04:52 PM
Obvously not a BANG production.

Week 2..wuggly Cowboys is pretty funny tho.

GreatBronco16
10-07-2005, 04:53 PM
That has to be the dumbest thing I have ever seen. They actually believe that Moss is gonna burn Champ? Hilarious!

Needa Pass Rush
10-07-2005, 04:55 PM
Champ go full speed today? Anyone know?

Look on or near the front page. There is some positive yap regarding Champ.

crazyhorse
10-07-2005, 04:57 PM
That has to be the dumbest thing I have ever seen. They actually believe that Moss is gonna burn Champ? Hilarious!

If Kennison owns him, why wouldn't Moss?

Needa Pass Rush
10-07-2005, 04:58 PM
Broncos | Bailey Practices, a Game-Time Decision
Fri, 7 Oct 2005 15:27:02 -0700

Jeff Legwold, of the Rocky Mountain News, reports Denver Broncos CB Champ Bailey (hamstring) practiced Friday, Oct. 7 but is still not at full speed due to a hamstring injury. Bailey will be a game-time decision for Week 5.


Broncos | R. Alexander Misses Practice, Unlikely to Play Week 5
Fri, 7 Oct 2005 15:26:40 -0700

Jeff Legwold, of the Rocky Mountain News, reports Denver Broncos CB Roc Alexander (hamstring) missed practice Friday, Oct. 7 and is unlikely to play in Week 5. He is listed as questionable this week.


Broncos | Green Practices, Expected to Play Week 5
Fri, 7 Oct 2005 15:26:17 -0700

Jeff Legwold, of the Rocky Mountain News, reports Denver Broncos LB Louis Green (hamstring) practiced Friday, Oct. 7 and is expected to play in Week 5. He is listed as questionable this week.


Broncos | Chukwurah Practices, Expected to Play Week 5
Fri, 7 Oct 2005 15:25:54 -0700

Jeff Legwold, of the Rocky Mountain News, reports Denver Broncos LB Patrick Chukwurah (thigh) practiced Friday, Oct. 7 and is expected to play in Week 5. He is listed as questionable this week.


KFFL | Players KFFL Subscribers Avoided in Week 4

In Week 4 KFFL listed Charles Rogers as a weak play. KFFL wrote, "For those waiting for Rogers to have that big game that makes you feel like he's back from that broken collarbone (and that other broken collarbone), you may have to wait a bit longer. The Buccaneers have held wide receivers to 8.67 catches, with 117 yards and 0.67 TDs per game." Results: 15 yards. KFFL's Strong Play, Weak Play article comes with a subscription to the Total Access Package. We've helped thousands win and want to help you too! [ Total Access Package ]


Broncos | Ferguson Practices, Expected to Play Week 5
Fri, 7 Oct 2005 15:25:33 -0700

Jeff Legwold, of the Rocky Mountain News, reports Denver Broncos S Nick Ferguson (knee) practiced Friday, Oct. 7 and is expected to play in Week 5.


Broncos | Williams Practices, Expected to Play Week 5
Fri, 7 Oct 2005 15:25:12 -0700

Jeff Legwold, of the Rocky Mountain News, reports Denver Broncos CB Darrent Williams (ankle) practiced Friday, Oct. 7 and is expected to play in Week 5.


Broncos | Jackson Practices, Expected to Play Week 5
Fri, 7 Oct 2005 15:24:49 -0700

Jeff Legwold, of the Rocky Mountain News, reports Denver Broncos TE Nate Jackson (hamstring) practiced Friday, Oct. 7 and is expected to play in Week 5.


Broncos | S. Alexander Practices, Expected to Play Week 5
Fri, 7 Oct 2005 15:24:23 -0700

Jeff Legwold, of the Rocky Mountain News, reports Denver Broncos TE Stephen Alexander (thigh) practiced Friday, Oct. 7 and is expected to play in Week 5.


Broncos | Adams Practices, Expected to Play Week 5
Fri, 7 Oct 2005 15:23:59 -0700

Jeff Legwold, of the Rocky Mountain News, reports Denver Broncos WR Charlie Adams (knee) practiced Friday, Oct. 7 and is expected to play in Week 5.

http://www.kffl.com/hotw/nfl

Kaylore
10-07-2005, 05:04 PM
Redskin Fan during 2003 Season: "Champ Bailey is the best corner in the NFL."

Redskin Fan After Trade: "Champ Bailey is overrated and sucks."

Redskin Fan during 2004 Season: "Fred Smoot is a top three corner. He's the
best this team could have."

Redskin Fan After Smoot signs with Vikings: "Fred Smoot sucks and is a douche bag."

The final prognosis: Every Redskin player is "Amazing" while they're a Redskin and with exception of retirement, players who are no longer Redskins immediately suck. Suck players who become Redskins become "Amazing" until they leave or are traded and then they suck once more.

Needa Pass Rush
10-07-2005, 05:06 PM
Latest on Champ.

http://www.denverpost.com/sports/ci_3096727


Article Last Updated: 10/07/2005 04:06 PM

broncos
Coach "optimistic" about Bailey for Sunday

Bill Williamson
Denver Post Staff Writer
DenverPost.com

The Broncos ended practice Friday with coach Mike Shanahan saying he was optimistic cornerback Champ Bailey will play Sunday against his former team, Washington.
Bailey practiced for the third straight day Friday as he recovers from a left hamstring injury sustained Sept. 26 against Kansas City. The injury kept him out of the Jacksonville game on Sunday, snapping a 99 consecutive game streak for Bailey. It was the longest current streak of any NFL cornerback.

Shanahan said if Bailey doesn't have any setbacks leading up to the game that he will play Sunday. The Broncos traded running back Clinton Portis for Bailey in March, 2004.

"There's a good chance I'll play," Bailey said.

The only Denver player not to practice Friday was cornerback Roc Alexander. He missed all three days of practice with a hamstring injury that kept him out of the Jacksonville game. If Alexander can't play, rookie Karl Paymah will likely be activated for the second straight week.

Northman
10-07-2005, 05:08 PM
Redskin Fan during 2003 Season: "Champ Bailey is the best corner in the NFL."

Redskin Fan After Trade: "Champ Bailey is overrated and sucks."

Redskin Fan during 2004 Season: "Fred Smoot is a top three corner. He's the
best this team could have."

Redskin Fan After Smoot signs with Vikings: "Fred Smoot sucks and is a douche bag."

The final prognosis: Every Redskin player is "Amazing" while they're a Redskin and with exception of retirement, players who are no longer Redskins immediately suck. Suck players who become Redskins become "Amazing" until they leave or are traded and then they suck once more.


Rep


I remember a lot of crap that was talked here in DC when Gibbs signed back on of whether or not Clinton could be a physical enough back here and now everyone has his jersey because he is the best player on that team. ROFL!

Merlin
10-07-2005, 05:09 PM
If Kennison owns him, why wouldn't Moss?
Is that a KC fan talking smack about D? ROFL! Hilarious! ROFL! Hilarious!

Broncofan_H
10-07-2005, 05:10 PM
That cartoon was pretty lame.
Rep to Kaylore for pointing out how soon Redskin fans forget.

Kaylore
10-07-2005, 05:12 PM
Broncos | Bailey Practices, a Game-Time Decision
Fri, 7 Oct 2005 15:27:02 -0700

Jeff Legwold, of the Rocky Mountain News, reports Denver Broncos CB Champ Bailey (hamstring) practiced Friday, Oct. 7 but is still not at full speed due to a hamstring injury. Bailey will be a game-time decision for Week 5.


Broncos | R. Alexander Misses Practice, Unlikely to Play Week 5
Fri, 7 Oct 2005 15:26:40 -0700

Jeff Legwold, of the Rocky Mountain News, reports Denver Broncos CB Roc Alexander (hamstring) missed practice Friday, Oct. 7 and is unlikely to play in Week 5. He is listed as questionable this week.


Broncos | Green Practices, Expected to Play Week 5
Fri, 7 Oct 2005 15:26:17 -0700

Jeff Legwold, of the Rocky Mountain News, reports Denver Broncos LB Louis Green (hamstring) practiced Friday, Oct. 7 and is expected to play in Week 5. He is listed as questionable this week.


Broncos | Chukwurah Practices, Expected to Play Week 5
Fri, 7 Oct 2005 15:25:54 -0700

Jeff Legwold, of the Rocky Mountain News, reports Denver Broncos LB Patrick Chukwurah (thigh) practiced Friday, Oct. 7 and is expected to play in Week 5. He is listed as questionable this week.


KFFL | Players KFFL Subscribers Avoided in Week 4

In Week 4 KFFL listed Charles Rogers as a weak play. KFFL wrote, "For those waiting for Rogers to have that big game that makes you feel like he's back from that broken collarbone (and that other broken collarbone), you may have to wait a bit longer. The Buccaneers have held wide receivers to 8.67 catches, with 117 yards and 0.67 TDs per game." Results: 15 yards. KFFL's Strong Play, Weak Play article comes with a subscription to the Total Access Package. We've helped thousands win and want to help you too! [ Total Access Package ]


Broncos | Ferguson Practices, Expected to Play Week 5
Fri, 7 Oct 2005 15:25:33 -0700

Jeff Legwold, of the Rocky Mountain News, reports Denver Broncos S Nick Ferguson (knee) practiced Friday, Oct. 7 and is expected to play in Week 5.


Broncos | Williams Practices, Expected to Play Week 5
Fri, 7 Oct 2005 15:25:12 -0700

Jeff Legwold, of the Rocky Mountain News, reports Denver Broncos CB Darrent Williams (ankle) practiced Friday, Oct. 7 and is expected to play in Week 5.


Broncos | Jackson Practices, Expected to Play Week 5
Fri, 7 Oct 2005 15:24:49 -0700

Jeff Legwold, of the Rocky Mountain News, reports Denver Broncos TE Nate Jackson (hamstring) practiced Friday, Oct. 7 and is expected to play in Week 5.


Broncos | S. Alexander Practices, Expected to Play Week 5
Fri, 7 Oct 2005 15:24:23 -0700

Jeff Legwold, of the Rocky Mountain News, reports Denver Broncos TE Stephen Alexander (thigh) practiced Friday, Oct. 7 and is expected to play in Week 5.


Broncos | Adams Practices, Expected to Play Week 5
Fri, 7 Oct 2005 15:23:59 -0700

Jeff Legwold, of the Rocky Mountain News, reports Denver Broncos WR Charlie Adams (knee) practiced Friday, Oct. 7 and is expected to play in Week 5.

http://www.kffl.com/hotw/nfl

Sweeeeeet. Looks like everyone got together and decided to get well at the same time. This will really help our special teams.

El Guapo
10-07-2005, 05:12 PM
what a reach. :hitself:

Clockwork Orange
10-07-2005, 05:13 PM
The Broncos paid Champ Bailey $9 million and he helped a defense with no pass rush finish in the top 5 in the NFL in total defense. He was brought in to be a superstar and responded by being named an All-Pro and making yet another trip to the Pro Bowl.

Now remind me what they're paying Portis for his amazing 3.9 yards per carry (1.6 yards per carry less than he averaged in the Broncos system) and whopping 5 TDs thus far in his Redskins career.

GonzoLays
10-07-2005, 05:27 PM
Redskin Fan during 2003 Season: "Champ Bailey is the best corner in the NFL."

Redskin Fan After Trade: "Champ Bailey is overrated and sucks."

Redskin Fan during 2004 Season: "Fred Smoot is a top three corner. He's the
best this team could have."

Redskin Fan After Smoot signs with Vikings: "Fred Smoot sucks and is a douche bag."

The final prognosis: Every Redskin player is "Amazing" while they're a Redskin and with exception of retirement, players who are no longer Redskins immediately suck. Suck players who become Redskins become "Amazing" until they leave or are traded and then they suck once more.

You hit the nail on the head with that post. Redskin fans are the most annoying fans outside of our AFC west brethren; especially the fans that frequent ExtremeMoron.com. I cannot think of a fanbase as misguided and misinformed as Redskin fans.

I have never wanted to win a regular season game more than this game.

Northman
10-07-2005, 05:30 PM
You hit the nail on the head with that post. Redskin fans are the most annoying fans outside of our AFC west brethren; especially the fans that frequent ExtremeMoron.com. I cannot think of a fanbase as misguided and misinformed as Redskin fans.

I have never wanted to win a regular season game more than this game.


heh, well i really want this one and the Raven game. :)

Clockwork Orange
10-07-2005, 05:30 PM
heh, well i really want this one and the Raven game. :)

I'm a greedy bastard. I want them all. :wiggle:

elsid13
10-07-2005, 05:35 PM
Man do the Skins fan still have a hard one for Champ. I don't see the same feeling for Portis that skins fans have Champ. I amazed about the loss of respect they have for him.

ludo21
10-07-2005, 05:39 PM
I'm a greedy bastard. I want them all. :wiggle:


me too. :strong:

Vegas_Bronco
10-07-2005, 05:41 PM
Santana Moss has a really puckered azz in the cartoon - there must be a lot of hawg fans that hit it often.

Ratboy
10-07-2005, 06:14 PM
I lost a few IQ pts for watching that.

broncohaven
10-07-2005, 06:20 PM
If Kennison owns him, why wouldn't Moss?
Did QUitterson have a catch before Champ went out? I didn't hear his name until we put Lenny "too tall" Walls on him. Our 4TH CB.

crazyhorse
10-07-2005, 06:46 PM
Did QUitterson have a catch before Champ went out? I didn't hear his name until we put Lenny "too tall" Walls on him. Our 4TH CB.

Not sure. I just know he was the leading reciever in the game. On both sides. If Bailey was out, it saved him from getting beat like he did in the previous contest when Kennison again had over 100 yards recieving. The guy is becoming unstoppable.

Putting your 4th corner on him is.......well........stupid. The only thing worse is putting a LBer on him.

It didn't help us win the game. But it's good to know you have somebody that can whip anybodies best corner. I am sure it will come in handt in December.

Northman
10-07-2005, 06:47 PM
Not sure. I just know he was the leading reciever in the game. On both sides. If Bailey was out, it saved him from getting beat like he did in the previous contest when Kennison again had over 100 yards recieving. The guy is becoming unstoppable.

Putting your 4th corner on him is.......well........stupid. The only thing worse is putting a LBer on him.

It didn't help us win the game. But it's good to know you have somebody that can whip anybodies best corner. I am sure it will come in handt in December.


personally, i dont care how many yds a receiver got. if he doesnt get in the endzone it dont matter. :~ohyah!:

Dudeskey
10-07-2005, 06:56 PM
http://www.proxywhore.com/invboard/html/emoticons/cricket.gif


God damn, that was lame...™

watermock
10-07-2005, 06:59 PM
http://www.proxywhore.com/invboard/html/emoticons/cricket.gif

Dammit now you woke up Beezer! He's looking everywhere...

He once crawled down a small roll of carpet about as wide as a rat and got trapped. I managed to hear him tho. He plopped out like a wet turd.

Florida_Bronco
10-07-2005, 07:25 PM
Not sure. I just know he was the leading reciever in the game. On both sides. If Bailey was out, it saved him from getting beat like he did in the previous contest when Kennison again had over 100 yards recieving. The guy is becoming unstoppable.

Putting your 4th corner on him is.......well........stupid. The only thing worse is putting a LBer on him.

It didn't help us win the game. But it's good to know you have somebody that can whip anybodies best corner. I am sure it will come in handt in December.

I don't remember him doing anything spectacular in that game.

GreatBronco16
10-07-2005, 07:34 PM
So now Kennison owns Bailey? Wow, that's rich.

Now Bailey covering KCs best receiving threat in Gonzo? Now that is ownage. What are Gonzos stats with Bailey on him? Chirp Chirp is right.

ludo21
10-07-2005, 09:31 PM
All these skins fans are toon makers. Someone needs to send this to Champ!

Play the 9 Million Dollar Man clip.

http://www.thehogs.net/Flash/Cartoons/main.php


ROLF!

That reminds me of Family Guy!!

"WE have the technology, BUT we dont want to spend any money" Ha!

Mile High Shack
10-07-2005, 09:33 PM
Not sure. I just know he was the leading reciever in the game. On both sides. If Bailey was out, it saved him from getting beat like he did in the previous contest when Kennison again had over 100 yards recieving. The guy is becoming unstoppable.

Putting your 4th corner on him is.......well........stupid. The only thing worse is putting a LBer on him.

It didn't help us win the game. But it's good to know you have somebody that can whip anybodies best corner. I am sure it will come in handt in December.

quitterson can have 500 yards on offense if we beat you 30-10 everytime

:)

baja
10-07-2005, 09:35 PM
I lost a few IQ pts for watching that.

And it's not like you have extra! :)

baja
10-07-2005, 09:41 PM
Who is this person?

http://www.hollywoodjesus.com/movie/replacements/annabelle.jpg

GreatBronco16
10-07-2005, 09:48 PM
An actress?

Clockwork Orange
10-07-2005, 09:49 PM
Not sure. I just know he was the leading reciever in the game. On both sides. If Bailey was out, it saved him from getting beat like he did in the previous contest when Kennison again had over 100 yards recieving. The guy is becoming unstoppable.

Putting your 4th corner on him is.......well........stupid. The only thing worse is putting a LBer on him.

It didn't help us win the game. But it's good to know you have somebody that can whip anybodies best corner. I am sure it will come in handt in December.

Then I guess we can say that Quentin Griffin tearing his ACL last year saved the entire Chefs _efense from getting torched by him again. After all, in the previous meeting he went for 150+ on them, so by your logic it's perfectly reasonable to suggest that it would have happened again.

GreatBronco16
10-07-2005, 09:51 PM
Ok ok.....it's Brooke Langton from The Replacements.

Needa Pass Rush
10-07-2005, 09:55 PM
Ok ok.....it's Brooke Langton from The Replacements.


Really? I was going to say Annabelle Farrell. :kiddingme :laugh:

Odysseus
10-07-2005, 11:21 PM
I'm a greedy bastard. I want them all. :wiggle:

I would love for the Broncos defense to put a zero on the Ravens.

Atlas
10-07-2005, 11:31 PM
Not sure. I just know he was the leading reciever in the game. On both sides. If Bailey was out, it saved him from getting beat like he did in the previous contest when Kennison again had over 100 yards recieving. The guy is becoming unstoppable.

Putting your 4th corner on him is.......well........stupid. The only thing worse is putting a LBer on him.

It didn't help us win the game. But it's good to know you have somebody that can whip anybodies best corner. I am sure it will come in handt in December.


Your talking smak about your 30-10 loss??? Christ get a life.

Kaylore
10-08-2005, 03:00 AM
ROLF!

That reminds me of Family Guy!!

"WE have the technology, BUT we dont want to spend any money" Ha!
Yeah. With the rake and the garbage can for a leg. Ha!

jrockster77
10-08-2005, 03:32 AM
Redskin Fan during 2003 Season: "Champ Bailey is the best corner in the NFL."

Redskin Fan After Trade: "Champ Bailey is overrated and sucks."

Redskin Fan during 2004 Season: "Fred Smoot is a top three corner. He's the
best this team could have."

Redskin Fan After Smoot signs with Vikings: "Fred Smoot sucks and is a douche bag."

The final prognosis: Every Redskin player is "Amazing" while they're a Redskin and with exception of retirement, players who are no longer Redskins immediately suck. Suck players who become Redskins become "Amazing" until they leave or are traded and then they suck once more.


No, that's not true. I don't think I ever read anything that said Smoot was a top 3 cornerback in the NFL. It may have been written, but I never read it.

Smoot was a great #2, he complimented Bailey and Springs, and played very well. So far, as we all know, he's not doing very well in Minny. So **** him!!! But seriously, this will be a good game!

crazyhorse
10-08-2005, 04:03 AM
quitterson can have 500 yards on offense if we beat you 30-10 everytime

:)

Yeah, but you dont beat us every time.

watermock
10-08-2005, 04:04 AM
We can be friends after Sunday, but right now...it's a knife fight.

it's also a strong frost and I still have green beans out there....

crazyhorse
10-08-2005, 04:05 AM
Then I guess we can say that Quentin Griffin tearing his ACL last year saved the entire Chefs _efense from getting torched by him again. After all, in the previous meeting he went for 150+ on them, so by your logic it's perfectly reasonable to suggest that it would have happened again.

Yes. Unless we prove otherwise. We havent. I will tell you what. If someone runs for 150 on us,I am sure worried it could happen again. It's called common sense. You hope they dont. But it could definately happen again.

crazyhorse
10-08-2005, 04:08 AM
Your talking smak about your 30-10 loss??? Christ get a life.

I thought I was making a true statement. What smack?

Is it smack if you talk about MikeAnderson running for 98 against the Chiefs, Or is it an accurate statement? I already gave you guys props for the win.???

watermock
10-08-2005, 04:12 AM
Yes. Unless we prove otherwise. We havent. I will tell you what. If someone runs for 150 on us,I am sure worried it could happen again. It's called common sense. You hope they dont. But it could definately happen again.

We ran for 221 yards in week three you dimwit.

crazyhorse
10-08-2005, 04:19 AM
I don't remember him doing anything spectacular in that game.

Nothing KC did was spectacular. Kennison didn't light it up or nothing. But he had a solid game. Going over 100 yards is a good game reguardless of the win or loss. In fact, he's been solid all year so far that I can remember.

crazyhorse
10-08-2005, 04:26 AM
We ran for 221 yards in week three you dimwit.

Who's disputing it?

I was answering a direct question.

What, did you wake up and the cat was gone, or something?

watermock
10-08-2005, 04:27 AM
Nothing KC did was spectacular. Kennison didn't light it up or nothing. But he had a solid game. Going over 100 yards is a good game reguardless of the win or loss. In fact, he's been solid all year so far that I can remember.

So your a retard. You were beaten like a rug on a clothesline.

What did I just tell you...a fact...we rushed for 221 yards. The fact a reciever got 100 yards in desperation means zero....absolutely zero.

Jake threw for 499 yards in a game last year and we lost.

BFD

crazyhorse
10-08-2005, 04:42 AM
So your a retard. You were beaten like a rug on a clothesline.

What did I just tell you...a fact...we rushed for 221 yards. The fact a reciever got 100 yards in desperation means zero....absolutely zero.

Jake threw for 499 yards in a game last year and we lost.

BFD

Perhaps you should get hooked on phonics, friend. I never disputed anything of the sort. You have a reading comprehension problem. But hey, at times, so do I.

Indeed the Donks won this one in convincing fashion.

I never meant to imply that Kennison performance won the game. However, to say that it means nothing is inaccurate. Someone was getting beat all day. That's what it means.

I just made a true statement. Like your statement about 221 yards. They are both true. No more, no less.

Dont read more into it than what's there.

Lidderer
10-08-2005, 04:48 AM
I never meant to imply that Kennison performance won the game. However, to say that it means nothing is inaccurate. Someone was getting beat all day. That's what it means.




Kennison had 1 catch for 8 yards by the time the score was Denver 20 KC 0.

Then caught 1 pass for 21 yards against Champ Bailey, 1 pass for 6 against Darrent Williams, and 2 passes for 29 yards while Champ was injured on the sidelines.

His remaining output was vs Foxworth, and in the largely pointless 2nd half.

So yes, our 4th string rookie CB was beaten all day.

Thread is not titled Dominique Foxworth: $617,000 Man.

watermock
10-08-2005, 04:57 AM
Perhaps you should get hooked on phonics, friend. I never disputed anything of the sort. You have a reading comprehension problem. But hey, at times, so do I.

I suggest you do.

Indeed the Donks won this one in convincing fashion.[quote]

STFU we destroyed you

[quote]I never meant to imply that Kennison performance won the game. However, to say that it means nothing is inaccurate. Someone was getting beat all day. That's what it means

I just made a true statement. Like your statement about 221 yards. They are both true. No more, no less.

No, it;ls a point right in your face you moron.

Dont read more into it than what's there.

I never do.

Liebs
10-08-2005, 05:31 AM
If Kennison owns him, why wouldn't Moss?
crazymule strikes again

actually kenninson is having an decent year, but you're still a little bitch

Needa Pass Rush
10-08-2005, 05:43 AM
Nothing KC did was spectacular. Kennison didn't light it up or nothing. But he had a solid game. Going over 100 yards is a good game reguardless of the win or loss. In fact, he's been solid all year so far that I can remember.

You're looking for silver linings here. That's like noting that the levees were rebuilt in New Orleans. :nono:

Hercules Rockefeller
10-08-2005, 07:54 AM
No, that's not true. I don't think I ever read anything that said Smoot was a top 3 cornerback in the NFL. It may have been written, but I never read it.

Smoot was a great #2, he complimented Bailey and Springs, and played very well. So far, as we all know, he's not doing very well in Minny. So **** him!!! But seriously, this will be a good game!

No you guys just said he had always been better than Champ after the trade went down.

crazyhorse
10-08-2005, 09:24 AM
Kennison had 1 catch for 8 yards by the time the score was Denver 20 KC 0.

Then caught 1 pass for 21 yards against Champ Bailey, 1 pass for 6 against Darrent Williams, and 2 passes for 29 yards while Champ was injured on the sidelines.

His remaining output was vs Foxworth, and in the largely pointless 2nd half.

So yes, our 4th string rookie CB was beaten all day.

Thread is not titled Dominique Foxworth: $617,000 Man.

I rescind the comment on Kennison as it has obviously caused a testosterone surge that could potentially cause a mental breakdown.

I wont comment further on Kennisons track record against Bailey. At least, when they line up across from each other.

Further, you have my deepest appologies for challenging what seems to be your manhood. It wasn't meant to challenge Bailey personally. But a harmless factual statement.

For the record, I feel like Bailey is perhaps the premier corner in this league.

Have a good weekend.

Lidderer
10-08-2005, 09:30 AM
I rescind the comment on Kennison as it has obviously caused a testosterone surge that could potentially cause a mental breakdown.

I wont comment further on Kennisons track record against Bailey. At least, when they line up across from each other.

Further, you have my deepest appologies for challenging what seems to be your manhood. It wasn't meant to challenge Bailey personally. But a harmless factual statement.

For the record, I feel like Bailey is perhaps the premier corner in this league.

Have a good weekend.

guy, you can gather all that info I posted in about 30 seconds(or the length it took you to decide that adopting a holier-than-thou sarcastic response was the best way to slink out of your inoffensive, yet ignorant, comment), so don't act like a simple glance at the game-log equates to burning rage or whatever; you're giving yourself too much credit.

numbers=masculinity?

-Slap-
10-08-2005, 09:41 AM
numbers=masculinity?
Those Enzyte commercials would suggest there's a link.

http://www.jasonbentley.org/blog/img/enzyte1.jpg

GreatBronco16
10-08-2005, 10:29 AM
Those Enzyte commercials would suggest there's a link.

http://www.jasonbentley.org/blog/img/enzyte1.jpg


Hello, this is bob. ROFL!

theodnixon
10-08-2005, 10:52 AM
If Kennison owns him, why wouldn't Moss?


i sorry, can you explain that. How do you conclude that champ couldn't stop kinnison even though he didnt cover kinnison?

If a Champ or any other CB in the league can cover two recievers at once, they should get paid double

theodnixon
10-08-2005, 10:53 AM
or become a saftey

crazyhorse
10-08-2005, 11:52 AM
i sorry, can you explain that. How do you conclude that champ couldn't stop kinnison even though he didnt cover kinnison?

If a Champ or any other CB in the league can cover two recievers at once, they should get paid double

As previously stated. I wont comment further. I just ask you to go back and look at Kennisons history against Bailey as a Bronco.

You're not going to listen to what I say anyway. But my facts are straight. I will add that my facts include more than one game. It is based on when he did cover EK. And yes in one game last season he was primarily covering Gonzo. But when covering EK..........

Maybe you should ask some of your Bronco bretheren. Surely it's an easier pill to swallow.

Sorry if I offended anyone.

Have a nice day.

Tredici
10-08-2005, 12:02 PM
The only thing I care about regarding Kennison is that he stays on KC's roster as the number one receiver.

He can get as many yards in a L as possible. I hope he continues to have his best games in that manner against Denver. Keeps the Chief faithful convinced he's worth the money.

Moon§hiner
10-08-2005, 12:26 PM
Amen Tred....they should also give Carl Peterson and Vermiel free tickets for life...if they ever fire those guys, then I'll be concerned about the Chiefs....maybe

Taco John
10-08-2005, 12:39 PM
If Kennison owns him, why wouldn't Moss?



That pretty big smack for having just got your asses kicked.

ludo21
10-08-2005, 12:41 PM
Yeah. With the rake and the garbage can for a leg. Ha!



Yep. rofl

GreatBronco16
10-08-2005, 12:55 PM
How many TDs has Kennison scored with Champ covering him? 1? 2 at the most? Bailey also has an INT while covering Kennison. I'll say they both do a good job on one another. But I will also say that Kennison was getting his yards due to the lack of pressure from our front 4. Notice how this year, Kennison didn't do jack against Champ, and it took a 4th string CB for Kennison to get his yards. But who cares? Champ is still considered the best CB in the NFL among his peers.

ibleedburgundy
10-08-2005, 01:07 PM
Redskin Fan during 2003 Season: "Champ Bailey is the best corner in the NFL."

Redskin Fan After Trade: "Champ Bailey is overrated and sucks."

Redskin Fan during 2004 Season: "Fred Smoot is a top three corner. He's the
best this team could have."

Redskin Fan After Smoot signs with Vikings: "Fred Smoot sucks and is a douche bag."

The final prognosis: Every Redskin player is "Amazing" while they're a Redskin and with exception of retirement, players who are no longer Redskins immediately suck. Suck players who become Redskins become "Amazing" until they leave or are traded and then they suck once more.


I have no idea where you got that impression. I can not speak for all Redskins fans but I never thought Champ was the best CB in the league. Amani Toomer owned him. Also, Champ is not the sharpest knife in the drawer. Against the Bears a few years ago Champ gave up a TD reception to Brian Urlacher. Yes, I said Urlacher. It was a fake where Champ got caught spectating a play on the opposite side of the field. Problem was, the real playt was on Champ's side. Don't get me wrong, Champ is a great CB, maybe even worthy of a pro-bowl or two, but I have no idea when Champ was annointed "best CB in the league" status or why. He's top ten at best. Getting torched by Jerry stinking Porter for 3 TD's in one game only confirms what we in Washington already knew.

As for Smoot, he was pretty good but made dumb mental mistakes frequently. Not a pro-bowl CB in the NFC. We all loved him as a person because he played with a broken collar bone. Fred Smoot has heart. Then he started consulting Deon Sanders and Chump when his contract dispute started and he left Washington for a little more cash thus incurring the wrath of Coach Bugel and Redskins fans. I wish him the best but he's a sellout.

ibleedburgundy
10-08-2005, 01:14 PM
No you guys just said he had always been better than Champ after the trade went down.


Smoot better than Champ?!? I read every article on the Redskins and frequent the message boards and nobody, and I mean NOBODY ever said that. Now Sean Springs on the other hand most certainly had a better year than Champ in 2004.

wabbit
10-08-2005, 02:40 PM
Champ go full speed today? Anyone know?

He has been practicing daily, but I hear he's not anywhere near full speed.

This second hamstring injury is not the same area that held him up in training camp & Pre-Season, so everyone has to be careful.

He desperately wants to play this Sunday, and maybe the coaches can accommodate with some spot duty...maybe even a symbolic start before he's pulled out, but with a double pull he faces some serious risk...even a tear if he doesn't let it all heal a little more.

Worst thing about healing hamstrings is that as they heal, they quickly start to feel absolutely normal, until you try to accelerate quickly...& that's where the risk of a tear, or a more serious pull comes in.

-Slap-
10-08-2005, 03:01 PM
I have no idea where you got that impression. I can not speak for all Redskins fans but I never thought Champ was the best CB in the league. Amani Toomer owned him. Also, Champ is not the sharpest knife in the drawer. Against the Bears a few years ago Champ gave up a TD reception to Brian Urlacher. Yes, I said Urlacher. It was a fake where Champ got caught spectating a play on the opposite side of the field. Problem was, the real playt was on Champ's side. Don't get me wrong, Champ is a great CB, maybe even worthy of a pro-bowl or two, but I have no idea when Champ was annointed "best CB in the league" status or why. He's top ten at best. Getting torched by Jerry stinking Porter for 3 TD's in one game only confirms what we in Washington already knew.

As for Smoot, he was pretty good but made dumb mental mistakes frequently. Not a pro-bowl CB in the NFC. We all loved him as a person because he played with a broken collar bone. Fred Smoot has heart. Then he started consulting Deon Sanders and Chump when his contract dispute started and he left Washington for a little more cash thus incurring the wrath of Coach Bugel and Redskins fans. I wish him the best but he's a sellout.
Funny you should bring up Deion. He played Synder for millions. Then he dogged it and malingered with injuries his whole time in Washington. Then he talked a gang of **** walking out the door.

ibleedburgundy
10-08-2005, 03:55 PM
Funny you should bring up Deion. He played Synder for millions. Then he dogged it and malingered with injuries his whole time in Washington. Then he talked a gang of **** walking out the door.


That's true but Deion was actually a very good CB for the Redskins. Not a good punt returner, and certainly not worth the $$$, but a good CB. Darrel Green, Champ Bailey and Deion Sanders were one of the best CB trio's that year if not the best.

DB-Freak
10-08-2005, 04:04 PM
I have no idea where you got that impression. I can not speak for all Redskins fans but I never thought Champ was the best CB in the league. Amani Toomer owned him. Also, Champ is not the sharpest knife in the drawer. Against the Bears a few years ago Champ gave up a TD reception to Brian Urlacher. Yes, I said Urlacher. It was a fake where Champ got caught spectating a play on the opposite side of the field. Problem was, the real playt was on Champ's side. Don't get me wrong, Champ is a great CB, maybe even worthy of a pro-bowl or two, but I have no idea when Champ was annointed "best CB in the league" status or why. He's top ten at best. Getting torched by Jerry stinking Porter for 3 TD's in one game only confirms what we in Washington already knew.

As for Smoot, he was pretty good but made dumb mental mistakes frequently. Not a pro-bowl CB in the NFC. We all loved him as a person because he played with a broken collar bone. Fred Smoot has heart. Then he started consulting Deon Sanders and Chump when his contract dispute started and he left Washington for a little more cash thus incurring the wrath of Coach Bugel and Redskins fans. I wish him the best but he's a sellout.

To be technically correct, Champ gave up 1 TD or arguably 2 TDs in that game.

Merlin
10-08-2005, 05:21 PM
[I have no idea where you got that impression. I can not speak for all Redskins fans but I never thought Champ was the best CB in the league.
Well, that is likely because you are an ignoramus. How many pro-bowls has he played in? Every time a pool is taken of WR and coaches, Champ is rated in the top 3 and frequently #1. But you know best because you can see how well he plays on tv and you know what the DC assignments were, and you know if Champ was being asked to do too much (a problem he encountered sometimes last year in Denver).

Also, Champ is not the sharpest knife in the drawer. Against the Bears a few years ago Champ gave up a TD reception to Brian Urlacher. Yes, I said Urlacher. It was a fake where Champ got caught spectating a play on the opposite side of the field. Problem was, the real playt was on Champ's side.
Well there you go, he must be an idiot, because everyone in that stadium and watching the game on TV knew that play was going to BU. Moreover, we all know trick plays never work, that is why they are never used, even by the best coaches in the business. :kiddingme

Don't get me wrong, Champ is a great CB, maybe even worthy of a pro-bowl or two, but I have no idea when Champ was annointed "best CB in the league" status or why.
I suggest you learn a little more about the game and read what other WR and coaches have to say about Champ, instead of a bunch of malcontents at some third tier BB.

Getting torched by Jerry stinking Porter for 3 TD's in one game only confirms what we in Washington already knew.
Yes he had a bad game (not 3 TDs), a number of mitigating factors were at play, but he could also have played better. BTW, do you know of any god like players who have never had bad games? Here is a simple question, can you find a quote where just 5 WR in the whole league would not rate Champ in the top 5 of the league? Considering how incompetent he is, that should be an easy task.

Kaylore
10-08-2005, 08:59 PM
I have no idea where you got that impression. I can not speak for all Redskins fans but I never thought Champ was the best CB in the league. Amani Toomer owned him. Also, Champ is not the sharpest knife in the drawer. Against the Bears a few years ago Champ gave up a TD reception to Brian Urlacher. Yes, I said Urlacher. It was a fake where Champ got caught spectating a play on the opposite side of the field. Problem was, the real playt was on Champ's side. Don't get me wrong, Champ is a great CB, maybe even worthy of a pro-bowl or two, but I have no idea when Champ was annointed "best CB in the league" status or why. He's top ten at best. Getting torched by Jerry stinking Porter for 3 TD's in one game only confirms what we in Washington already knew.

As for Smoot, he was pretty good but made dumb mental mistakes frequently. Not a pro-bowl CB in the NFC. We all loved him as a person because he played with a broken collar bone. Fred Smoot has heart. Then he started consulting Deon Sanders and Chump when his contract dispute started and he left Washington for a little more cash thus incurring the wrath of Coach Bugel and Redskins fans. I wish him the best but he's a sellout.

There it is. Smoot was "corrupted" by Champ. You guys going to use that excuse every time a player leaves for another team or more money? "Its Champ's fault. He made Smoot do it."

Needa Pass Rush
10-08-2005, 09:19 PM
.........As for Smoot, he was pretty good but made dumb mental mistakes frequently. Not a pro-bowl CB in the NFC. We all loved him as a person because he played with a broken collar bone. Fred Smoot has heart. Then he started consulting Deon Sanders and Chump when his contract dispute started and he left Washington for a little more cash thus incurring the wrath of Coach Bugel and Redskins fans. I wish him the best but he's a sellout.

Smoot was no more of a 'sellout' to the Skins then Portis was to the Broncos. You better be worried..... Portis is going to breath some of that rare Rocky Mountain air and dream of the 'good ole days' when he takes the field in Denver. He'll be begging for his old job back by halftime. ;D

Bang
10-08-2005, 09:23 PM
All these skins fans are toon makers. Someone needs to send this to Champ!

Play the 9 Million Dollar Man clip.

http://www.thehogs.net/Flash/Cartoons/main.php

Come on man.. no offense to the guys making this,, but don't compare this to my stuff.
May as well compare paint by numbers to Da Vinci.

(Yes, i do have a healthy opinion of myself :~ohyah!: )

~Bang

Kaylore
10-08-2005, 09:28 PM
Come on man.. no offense to the guys making this,, but don't compare this to my stuff.
May as well compare paint by numbers to Da Vinci.

(Yes, i do have a healthy opinion of myself :~ohyah!: )

~Bang
Seriously Bang, It does not compare. It certainly is too blunt for my taste. They did make the players look good, though.

Needa Pass Rush
10-08-2005, 09:29 PM
Come on man.. no offense to the guys making this,, but don't compare this to my stuff.
May as well compare paint by numbers to Da Vinci.

(Yes, i do have a healthy opinion of myself :~ohyah!: )

~Bang

What's the final score tomorrow, da Vinci? Knowitall

Bang
10-08-2005, 09:35 PM
For the record, as a Redskins fan, here's my take on Champ, and it's never waivered.
He CAN be an excellent corner. He can truly be a shut down guy. He is an excellent tackler, in his time here n DC, I thought he was the best tackler in terms of technique on the team,. always low, hits in the waist and wraps up the legs.
BUT, he has a fatal flaw. It isn't always exposed, but it can be.
Champ is a trail corner,, he prefers to make a play on the ball while it is in flight. If, on a deep ball, the QB lays it up a yard or so short, he has a hard time making th adjustment. He tends to either run face first into the guy and get a PI call, or the guy can make the grab over his back.
It happened often enough to be a trend, and other teams recognized it and went after it to some degree of success.
Since he's been in Denver i haven't seen many of his games, so i don't know if he's corrected it or not. But that flaw was there, and I have seen it exploited, in fact, I've seen teams go specifically at it with the game on the line, and succeed. In Champ's last year here, he got beat on that type of pass numerous times, worst of all was Marty Booker, who not only beat him for the 75 yd TD, but he cleated him in the face and caused a few stitches. Steve Smith did it to him with the Panthers down to the Redskins in the 4th quarter.. the Dolphins did it to him in the 4th quarter.
He's a greatb player, but for that.
Fred Smoot? Meh, he's alright, I like his heart a lot more than his ability. He tends to play off too much,, gives almost a ten yard cushion.. gets him beat on slant routes.

Now, I am certain I'm going to get slammed for being a homer, but that is how I've always felt about both of them.
My 2 cents says I hope Champ plays. Makes for a better story.

~Bang

Moon§hiner
10-08-2005, 09:41 PM
I sense a cartoon of this matchup coming if Denver doesn't win tomorrow

Bang
10-09-2005, 06:54 AM
Nah, this game isn't marked for a cartoon.. no funny stuff here. (I don't much do the rah-rah stuff) This week I'm looking at the Jets (Vinny Methuselaverde.. ).. Philly and Dallas.. Houston..and the Packers-Saints .. maybe even Buffalo. I'll see what I can find there.
I ask y'all this though... in terms of record, we have the premiere matchup in the league today... 6 wins between us, no other game has that.... yet we get Sam Rosen and Bill Maas to call the game?
Bill Maas?
God, is there anyone worse than this clown?
He was a defensive tackle! And not even a very good one. If I want to know about how the turf tastes on various fields around the league, I'm sure he could tell me. But when he starts yapping about any other aspect of the game, he proves himself to be utterly clueless.
And Sam Rosen should go back to selling carpet.

~Bang

Tredici
10-09-2005, 07:01 AM
Nah, this game isn't marked for a cartoon.. no funny stuff here. (I don't much do the rah-rah stuff) This week I'm looking at the Jets (Vinny Methuselaverde.. ).. Philly and Dallas.. Houston..and the Packers-Saints .. maybe even Buffalo. I'll see what I can find there.
I ask y'all this though... in terms of record, we have the premiere matchup in the league today... 6 wins between us, no other game has that.... yet we get Sam Rosen and Bill Maas to call the game?
Bill Maas?
God, is there anyone worse than this clown?
He was a defensive tackle! And not even a very good one. If I want to know about how the turf tastes on various fields around the league, I'm sure he could tell me. But when he starts yapping about any other aspect of the game, he proves himself to be utterly clueless.
And Sam Rosen should go back to selling carpet.


~Bang

Apparently defense isn't very sexy. Brunell/Plummer must not warrant the "A" Team. Hopefully they will be reporting on another Favre interception...

ibleedburgundy
10-09-2005, 07:52 AM
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Well, that is likely because you are an ignoramus. How many pro-bowls has he played in? Every time a pool is taken of WR and coaches, Champ is rated in the top 3 and frequently #1. But you know best because you can see how well he plays on tv and you know what the DC assignments were, and you know if Champ was being asked to do too much (a problem he encountered sometimes last year in Denver).

Well there you go, he must be an idiot, because everyone in that stadium and watching the game on TV knew that play was going to BU. Moreover, we all know trick plays never work, that is why they are never used, even by the best coaches in the business. :kiddingme


I suggest you learn a little more about the game and read what other WR and coaches have to say about Champ, instead of a bunch of malcontents at some third tier BB.


Yes he had a bad game (not 3 TDs), a number of mitigating factors were at play, but he could also have played better. BTW, do you know of any god like players who have never had bad games? Here is a simple question, can you find a quote where just 5 WR in the whole league would not rate Champ in the top 5 of the league? Considering how incompetent he is, that should be an easy task.



I've been to almost every Redskins home game since 1999. I've watched Champ in person more times than you've seen him play.

Bad game? Getting torched for 3 TD's is not a bad game. It's a complete thrashing. Why is it you guys are trying to pretend it was only 1 or 2 TD's? Jerry Porter was his man.

Last season, opponents threw 83 passes Bailey's way and completed 49 of them, 59.0 percent. ouch.

Against the Bengals, on third-and-16, Bailey slipped and fell, leaving Johnson all alone for a 50-yard touchdown. He's done that a few times in Washington as well.

As for your assertion that if Champ wasn't the best CB why don't players go around saying he isn't that good? Simple. Players don't do that. You almost never see a player saying that their opponent stinks.