Broncos make extra effort to get hands on more turnovers

[Mediator12]

Good article by Jeff Legwold

URL: http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/broncos/article/0,1299,DRMN_17_4139712,00.html


Broncos safety John Lynch was part of a Tampa Bay Buccaneers defense that totaled 38 takeaways in 2002, including 31 interceptions, a defense Broncos defensive coordinator Larry Coyer said was one of the best at turning a crowd around the ball into turnovers.

"Sometimes I think people forget - they think maybe they're in the NFL, turnovers will be there, but it's effort," Lynch said. "It's about people to the ball. Last year, a number of times the ball was on the ground - and I'm not saying the effort was bad last year - but if you're getting people to the ball you're going to end up on them. "We had a lot of forced fumbles last year. This year, they're starting to go our way."

Broncos opponents fumbled 28 times last season - 17 were forced by the Denver defense - but Denver still came up with the ball only eight times. This season, the Broncos are tied for the NFL lead with six fumble recoveries in four games. They trace it to speed, such as that offered by the fleet group of rookie defensive backs as well as the new defensive linemen and linebacker Ian Gold. That, and getting more players to the ball on more plays.



The Speed and Activity has been night and day compared to last year. Thanks New DL, DB's and Ian! :strong:

[ludo21]

Oskie!!!!!!!

[DomCasual]

This is what gives me the most confidence for the remainder of the season. We've had seasons where we have come out of the box strong on defense, only to falter by season's end. The difference between those years and this was turnovers. This team seems to have a knack for creating them.

Look at it this way. So far this year, we are 4th in the league in turnover margin. For the year last year, finishing 4th would have given us almost 25 more turnovers than we had for the year. Figure a team averages twelve possessions a game. Last year, we averaged almost right at 24 points per game - so 2 points per possession, give or take.

So, apply this year's turnover production to last year, with last years points/possession production, and you end up with just over a three-point per game scoring difference. (And this doesn't take into account the swing you get from basically taking away two of the opponent's possessions, or the momentum shift a turnover causes in a game.)

Take a look at the six games we lost last year. Three were basically blowouts, and from strictly a points/possession standpoint, one and a half extra turnovers wouldn't have made much of a difference. But for the games at Jacksonville and San Diego, and the home game against the Raiders, the turnover difference would have meant the difference between losing and winning.

So, say we end up with those three games as wins, instead of losses. We win the division and open the playoffs with the Jets at home - obviously a whole different deal than what we ended up with.

So, to make a long story short, at minimum, each turnover we get will end up counting for at least a two-point differential in the final score of the game. As many close games as there are in the NFL, that could (and usually would) end up the difference between home field advantage throughout the playoffs, and missing the playoffs altogether.

[GreatBronco16]

Ian is turning into Ian isn't he.

[Broncoman13]

Being around the ball is key. Foxxy got his fumble recovery b/c he was around the ball. 11 players running to the ball carrier is what it's all about. Courtdawg's fumble recovery was the same thing. Had he not been pushing toward the ball he wouldn't have been in position to fall on the ball.

Obviously is starts with guys like Ian and Al popping the ball loose, but we had that last year. Both are relative to turnovers, can't have one and not the other.

OSKIE!!!

[Play2win]

Ian is definitely worth his weight in GOLD. ;D

[Bronx33]

Oskie!!!!!!!

Oskie!!!!!!!

[Rock Chalk]

Whats an Oskie?

[Bronx33]

Whats an Oskie?

Turn over! and when it's yelled it tells the D to go the other way and BLOCK!

[Rock Chalk]

Turn over! and when it's yelled it tells the D to go the other way and BLOCK!
Cool.

[Tredici]

Cool.

But you would've known 2 + 2

:brokehalo

[Meck77]

Where are the fire Coyer threads now? Which fool started that anyway? eh nevermind doesn't really matter.

It was evident in training camp there was an increased emphasis on TOs.

[Mile High Shack]

Where are the fire Coyer threads now? Which fool started that anyway? eh nevermind doesn't really matter.

It was evident in training camp there was an increased emphasis on TOs.

I don't think there was a fire coyer thread per say

but people were disappointed in the D's performance after week 1, regardless of how bad the O played

something clicked at half time in the Chargers game and this D has played like I thought it should've

[BMF Bronco]

I don't think there was a fire coyer thread per say

but people were disappointed in the D's performance after week 1, regardless of how bad the O played

something clicked at half time in the Chargers game and this D has played like I thought it should've
Oh yeah, there was one

[GreatBronco16]

Where are the fire Coyer threads now? Which fool started that anyway? eh nevermind doesn't really matter.

It was evident in training camp there was an increased emphasis on TOs.

You mean this one.

http://orangemane.com/BB/showthread.php?t=30410&highlight=Fire+Coyer

[watermock]

Oskie means turn around and block the other way? I had never heard of it.

I just hope that when Baltimore comes knocking, Burnsie will get a chance to pay the slasher Ray Ray back with a hit so hard he twitches like something out of a cartoon.

[BMF Bronco]

Oskie means turn around and block the other way? I had never heard of it.

I just hope that when Baltimore comes knocking, Burnsie will get a chance to pay the slasher Ray Ray back with a hit so hard he twitches like something out of a cartoon.

SNOT BUBBLES!!!!!!!!!

[Hulamau]

Being around the ball is key. Foxxy got his fumble recovery b/c he was around the ball. 11 players running to the ball carrier is what it's all about. Courtdawg's fumble recovery was the same thing. Had he not been pushing toward the ball he wouldn't have been in position to fall on the ball.

Obviously is starts with guys like Ian and Al popping the ball loose, but we had that last year. Both are relative to turnovers, can't have one and not the other.

OSKIE!!!


Fox also recovered the punt fumble by Charlie Adams in the KC game that was really heads up.

Fox is my favorite baby Bronco -- he and DW.

[Meck77]

Oh yeah, there was one



Sure was and 1/3 of the Omane voters voted to shiat can him. Could have been some rival fans in the mix but that is pretty funny. I use to use chat rooms before there were any decent messageboards but rarely step foot in them anymore. You just don't have the benefit of seeing which people threw in the towel week one. Ha!

I vote that the Fire Coyer thread should go in the Ring of Fame for a reminder.

[watermock]

I had serious reservatons about him when he was hired, but I have never called for Coyers head....I have the guillotine firmly pointed in Kubiak's direction....

Our redzone production is still absolutely pathetic.

Larry C. has pretty much re-made this defense, and as long as your winning...who's complaining...12 freaking yards has to be a Denver record.

[DB-Freak]

I had serious reservatons about him when he was hired, but I have never called for Coyers head....I have the guillotine firmly pointed in Kubiak's direction....

Our redzone production is still absolutely pathetic.

Larry C. has pretty much re-made this defense, and as long as your winning...who's complaining...12 freaking yards has to be a Denver record.
0 yard was the record.

[listopencil]

Lame ass bull**** thread.


I'll stand by my comment on the "fire Coyer" thread.

[Rock Chalk]

Hmm, after week 1's performance, can you blame people for making a fire coyer thread? Hell Im surprised we didnt have a fire everyone thread after that abysmmal display.

For what its worth, I dont care to go look but Im almost positive i voted to fire him and probably said something about it, so I'll eat my crow.

[Meck77]

Hmm, after week 1's performance, can you blame people for making a fire coyer thread? .

Yes considering our D has been ranked amongst the best statistically since he got here. Sure we got wiped out in Indy twice but so would have alot of teams. Im not even sure the Pats could have beat them at home. Besides our offense really struggled in both those games also. They were team losses.

[Broncoman13]

Where are the fire Coyer threads now? Which fool started that anyway? eh nevermind doesn't really matter.

It was evident in training camp there was an increased emphasis on TOs.


I don't think I ever started a thread Meck, but I did call for his head after seeing our best DLinemen continuously dropping into coverage. Like Alec said though, winning cures a lot of that, but I'd honestly still be unhappy if we were using the zone blitz predominantly in our scheme. If he wants to do it a few times a half to mix it up then I'm kewl with it... Do it as often as we did in Miami and I'll start calling him out again.

All that being said. Coyer has been the man the last few weeks. Not sure what happened to him, but for him to completely change his style is a blessing! He went from the hardcore, you can't do anything right, constantly playing with X's and O's type... to the I believe in my players, go get em, and throw away the chalk board type! It's working. I was afraid with Champ and Darrent being out last week he would try to compensate by dropping DLinemen into coverage and going back to the ZB scheme. He didn't and gained a lot of confidence.. from me atleast!

[Merlin]

Oskie means turn around and block the other way? I had never heard of it.
I just hope that when Baltimore comes knocking, Burnsie will get a chance to pay the slasher Ray Ray back with a hit so hard he twitches like something out of a cartoon.
Unless he is playing TE (in which case it does not matter because he could be hit when they have the ball), what you are suggesting is impossible because Ray Ray would be on the bench with the rest of the D watching his O trying to play D